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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-16

---Logopened Tue Dec 16 00:00:43 2014
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00:49<rrt>ffFinetundra, a what?
00:49<rrt>I ran yeahconsole and nothing happens... what to do?
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01:14<Miro>hi whois on google get check()
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02:53<oliv3r___>Hi; i'm trying to do a PXE installation (as i've done many times) on a virtual machine. I accidentally downloaded the wheezy images (gtk and console) instead of jessie; and those worked fine; changing the initrd.gz and linux on my tftp server to the real jessie release; both the gtk installer; as the regular installer suddenly do nothing when trying to configure the network. switching to the 4th console reveals that dhcp(6?) keeps looping over and over
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02:53<oliv3r___>it looks vaguely simlar to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=743292
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02:54<jm_>for jessie ask in #debian-next
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02:54<oliv3r___>ok sorry :)
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05:01<rockyman>is there a way to create a script that will respond to a prompt without using "expect"? i am building a loop to try a multitude of responses to a particular file, but it needs to respond to the prompt. anyone have any ideas?
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05:03<jm_>there are other tools than expect if that's what you're asking
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05:03<rockyman>not any other tools
05:03<rockyman>something i can code without installing
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05:03<rockyman>because i am SSH on a another server, so i dont have root to install anything
05:04<jm_>no, since the tool prompting needs to think it's a full tty
05:04<rockyman>what is tty?
05:04<jm_>!tty
05:04<dpkg>methinks tty is an abbreviation for "teletype". More generically, it refers to any terminal or terminal emulator.
05:04<b4rn3y>How can I upgrade my tty?
05:05<rockyman>i see, so not possible then without expect?
05:05<jm_>I wrote a simple tool for myself doing something like expect but with lua scripting
05:05<rockyman>or another similar tool?
05:05<rockyman>let me ask u a question jm, is it possible to run a script from my home machine where i have root, even when I am SSH on anothe server?
05:06<rockyman>that way i can install "expect" there?
05:06<jm_>rockyman: you need to be defining things more precisely - what should the script do?
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05:06<rockyman>i am having the script run a file
05:06<rockyman>then the file asks for a prompt
05:06<jm_>ahh yeah you can use expect to control remote ssh session, that's exactly what I wrote my tool for
05:06<rockyman>then i want the script to respond to the prompt
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05:06<rockyman>and it should loop through 1000 things
05:07<rockyman>or until it hits the right answer
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05:07<rockyman>ok so it's possible to run expect locally, adn then run that script on a server that I SSH to? where can i learn how to do this, or what is this called? i've tried searching, but I don't know the terminology ;)
05:09<jm_>http://www.journaldev.com/1405/expect-script-example-for-ssh-and-su-login-and-running-commands
05:09<jm_>search for something like "expect auto login" or "expect ssh commands"
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05:10<rockyman>oh so i need the script to actually SSH there as well
05:10<jm_>yeah that's the trick
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05:10<rockyman>dam so complicated haha.. ok thanks
05:10<jm_>and then it has full control of the tty and can detect remote output and respond to it
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05:11<b4rn3y>kali linux is debian? or ubuntu?
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05:11<jm_>!kali
05:11<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
05:12<b4rn3y>thank you
05:12<jm_>no problem
05:12<b4rn3y>!bash
05:12<dpkg>from memory, bash is the Bourne Again SHell, and the default Debian shell. Ask me about <bash faq>, <bash pitfalls>, <bbg>, <abs>, <parsing ls>, <bashism>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bash #bash on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net.
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05:12<jm_>please use /msg to ask dpkg about whatever you want - I did it this way because in 99% cases people don't see the msg from dpkg if I tell it to msg them
05:13<jm_>so, as an example: /msg dpkg bash
05:13<b4rn3y>thank you
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05:13<b4rn3y>oh it is good
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05:14<b4rn3y>!savannah
05:14<dpkg>savannah is, like, http://savannah.gnu.org/. Free Software project hosting ala SourceForge. Also available at http://sv.gnu.org/
05:14<b4rn3y>!samba
05:14<dpkg>Samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ http://samba.org/samba/docs/ http://wiki.samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net. See also <swat>, <dfs>.
05:15<jm_>hmm? please msg the bot like I just explained
05:16<jm_>in your IRC client instead of typing "!samba" type "/msg dpkg samba"
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05:16<b4rn3y>I got it!
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05:34<aborrero>wow, I just know about this: http://rgeissert.blogspot.fr/2014/12/editing-debian-online-with.html
05:34<aborrero>I just tested it and its really impressive
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06:26<cyberace>hi
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06:27<cyberace>hi
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06:32<cyberace>what good is this chat for?
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06:33<cyberace>Id like to learn more
06:34<jm_>it's for debian stable release support
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06:35<cyberace>I see, guess backbox support is a diff place altogether
06:35<jm_>!backbox
06:35<dpkg>BackBox Linux is a distribution based on <Ubuntu> Lucid, developed to perform penetration tests and security assessments. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backbox.org/ #backbox on irc.autistici.org. See also <based on debian>.
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06:36<cyberace>Well thank you...Any suggestions on if backbox would be the way to go for cybercrime type work
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06:37<peter1138>If you have to ask...
06:37<cyberace>Yes..
06:38<jm_>no idea, maybe talk to them and also /msg dpkg kali
06:38<cyberace>Yeah, will do
06:38<cyberace>TTYL
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06:44<cyberace>how do I add irc.autistici.org?
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06:46<SpeedyG>cyberace: how're you connected here?
06:46<SpeedyG>webchat, mirc (if that still exists) xchat, irssi, any other irc client?
06:46<cyberace>NM, i figured it out
06:46<SpeedyG>ok
06:47<cyberace>irc.autistici.org < no one was in there
06:47<cyberace>So much for that movement
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06:47<SpeedyG>hm, I see a couple of people online there through their webchat...
06:47<SpeedyG>but perhaps they're idle :)
06:48<cyberace>Any INFOSEC guys in the house?
06:48<SpeedyG>jup
06:48*SpeedyG <-
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06:49<cyberace>=) Hey man, so I am dying to get into this field but do not know where to start as I am a little nervous about 1 getting in trouble when using Kali or Backbox
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06:49<cyberace>And 2 how to jott this down on my resume so I get some calls based on my LAB experience
06:51<SpeedyG>if you wanna play around a bit with those, best thing to do is setup some virtual machines with f.i. damn vulnerable linux or similar
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06:51<SpeedyG>and then start working from kali/backbox to see what you can do
06:51<SpeedyG>but make sure not to connect those DVL-instances to a public network ;)
06:51<SpeedyG>but infosec is much broader than just the tech stuff :)
06:52<SpeedyG>CISSP and CEH certifications also help in showing it when it comes to resume-buidling
06:53<cyberace>What is F.I?
06:53<SpeedyG>for instance
06:53<cyberace>Gotcha
06:53<cyberace>Got my Comptia a+,net+, sec+
06:53<cyberace>I guess the nex ones are the ones you said
06:53<wirtha>cyberace: what kind of background do you have
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06:53<wirtha>/what kind of sec do you want to do
06:54<cyberace>Im prior MIL with an active DOD and working on my DHS now
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06:55<cyberace>Ive did do desktop support for 2 yrs, these days I am a QA Analyst
06:55<cyberace>Got my CompTIA A/NET/SEC + crtificates
06:56<cyberace>Id like to do Cybercrime/Forensics/PEN work
06:56<wirtha>pentesting is pretty different from forensics/cybercrime, tbh
06:56<wirtha>unless PEN means something else
06:56<cyberace>How so?
06:57<SpeedyG>wirtha: certainly does :)
06:57*wirtha doesn't GOV much so he doesn't know half these acronyms
06:57<cyberace>[penetration testing]
06:57<SpeedyG>cybercrime/forensics is more the analytical / afterwards while pentesting is more active testing and preventative work
06:58<cyberace>Ahhh yes
06:58<cyberace>My background is very much analytical
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06:58<cyberace>Hmmm, thanks for clarifying that
06:58<cyberace>Def going to stick to what I know
06:58<SpeedyG>it's all about where ein the process you wanna work :)
06:58<wirtha>forensics requires a lot of training/care in handling chain of evidence, etc
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06:59<cyberace>What about cybercrime?
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06:59<SpeedyG>forensics isnt my cup of tea exactly for that reason wirtha :)
06:59<wirtha>there isn't really a difference
06:59<SpeedyG>cybercrime is just another 'cyber'-hyped term used to describe/clog together a number of activities
06:59<SpeedyG>mostly consisting of forensics kind of work
06:59<cyberace>Ha
07:00<wirtha>SpeedyG: same, I play CTF and work in adversarial resilience / system analysis :P
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07:00<cyberace>CTF?
07:00<SpeedyG>I used to be pentester but now moved up the chain a bit into more info-sec management
07:00<wirtha>cyberace: capture the flag competitions
07:00<SpeedyG>more processes/procedures and less of the technical work
07:00<wirtha>it's basically a hacking competition
07:00<cyberace>Oh cool!
07:01<wirtha>so it's much more on the pentesting side of things
07:01<cyberace>Man, that realy sounds exciting!
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07:02<SpeedyG>resilience, one of those re-introduced terms ;)
07:02<cyberace>speedyG: process/procedure is what I do now as a QA Analyst
07:02<wirtha>SpeedyG: I hope that never happens to me and I don't have to move up the chain :P
07:02<cyberace>Never heard of that term
07:02*wirtha is a hothead still in college though
07:03<SpeedyG>cyberace: resilience is a matter of how much you can bend until you break ;) ... more or less :)
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07:03<cyberace>Like TESTING for example..
07:03<SpeedyG>wirtha: work used to be my hobby
07:03<SpeedyG>now my hobby is back at being my hobby again and work is just.. .work ;)
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07:04<cyberace>Always happens
07:04<wirtha>cyberace: more like 'lets take a look at this system, analyze ways to break it, check the threat model etc'
07:04<cyberace>So i guess I should dump the PENTEST stuff and stick to FORENSICS?
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07:05<wirtha>security isn't black and white, it comes down to being more secure than the next guy, because no one is perfectly secure
07:05<cyberace>I learned that in my Comptia SEC class
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07:05<wirtha>I would say go with forensics, you could move into pentesting later with a background in forensics
07:05<cyberace>And the more secure you are the less functional the end user envirnment is
07:05<wirtha>but if you go the other way would be much harder
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07:06<cyberace>Thank you guys...Ive been searching for advise like this for a while
07:06<wirtha>SpeedyG: well for now it's both my hobby and my work so I'm lucky :D
07:06<cyberace>Very valuable info here
07:07<cyberace>So the question now becomes > How do I get FORENSIC exp?
07:07<cyberace>Is their a specific DISTRO for it?
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07:08<SpeedyG>cyberace: there is...
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07:08<cyberace>Maybe some cool software too?
07:08<SpeedyG>there're multiple actually
07:09<SpeedyG>one google action puts me to DEFT, CAINE and some other stuff :)
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07:09<SpeedyG>that's one thing certainly to apply throughout life... if you don't recognize, google first, asks second :P
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07:10<SpeedyG>oh and I do konw that Kali also packs some forensics tools
07:10<wirtha>a lot of people use kali for this kind of stuff now
07:10<SpeedyG>but since i'm not into forensics, I don't know them ;)
07:10<wirtha>although I think LEO uses something specialized
07:10<cyberace>I definately did that too, just waned to ask the guys that have the skillset
07:10<wirtha>SpeedyG: everyone uses kali for everything -.-
07:10<SpeedyG>wirtha: thats certainly true :)
07:11<cyberace>Thats true, but damn its so heavy
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07:11<wirtha>it has everything you want though, which is _incredibly_ nice
07:11<cyberace>Gotcha
07:11<wirtha>installing half of those tools on a normal debian install would take a few days
07:11<wirtha>just configuring them
07:11<SpeedyG>yeah, it has everything... which is the benefit and the challenge at the same time :)
07:11<SpeedyG>there's so much on them... where to begin ;)
07:12<cyberace>lol
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07:12<cyberace>man, i guess I will have to get use to debian now
07:12<wirtha>cyberace: if I were you I'd talk to someone that has the job (or is the manager of) the job you want
07:13<cyberace>so used to ubuntu and those commands
07:13<SpeedyG>cyberace: if you're used to ubuntu, the step to debian isnt that big :)
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07:13<wirtha>just because me and SpeedyG do sec doesn't mean we're THAT close to forensics
07:13<cyberace>gotcha
07:13<wirtha>also I dunno about SpeedyG but I don't know _anything_ about GOV
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07:14<cyberace>whats GOV? governance
07:14<SpeedyG>MIL, DHS,... GOV :p
07:14<SpeedyG>all I know about it... it's accross the pond :P (i'm in europe)
07:14<cyberace>Oh yeah, thats cool
07:14<wirtha>I don't know anything about how the government handles security
07:14<SpeedyG>wirtha: 'not' ? ;)
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07:15<cyberace>METADATA as we all have grown to know over the las couple of months
07:15<wirtha>lol
07:15<cyberace>And active PEN testing
07:15<wirtha>well, I think they do better than SONY :P
07:15<wirtha>win 8
07:15<cyberace>hahaha
07:15<SpeedyG>:>
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07:16<wirtha>SpeedyG: can I ask where you work?
07:16<SpeedyG>think you just did ;)
07:17<cyberace>Man o man
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07:17<cyberace>Going to run
07:17<cyberace>Thanks for the info
07:17<cyberace>Enjoy the rest of your day
07:17<SpeedyG>yw cyberace :)
07:18<wirtha>no problem!
07:18<SpeedyG>wirtha: see notice :)
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08:06<jamping>сюда хоть можно уже писать
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08:07<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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08:44<DebScan>Hi
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08:44<DebScan>Can someone help me with scanimage ?
08:45<blast007>DebScan: do you have a specific question?
08:45<DebScan>I cannot use it with a device name in the form : /dev/something while this link exists from udev. but using a devicename like genesys:libusb:007:007 works
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08:46<DebScan>so, scanimage -L genesys:/dev/something does not work but : scanimage -L genesys:libusb:007:007 works :(
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08:47<DebScan>and clearly /dev/something is a symlink to /dev/bus/usb/007/007
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09:05<Gamer1204>Hi, I tried to run netflix, but I get this error code: M7063-1913 on chrome Version 40.0.2214.38 beta (64-bit), I was told on multiple sites etc that netflix would work natively. Does anyone have a solution?
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09:11<ArtooDetoo>Gamer1204: which libnss3 version do you have?
09:11<Brigo>Gamer1204, i can see the relation between netflix and chrome
09:12<Brigo>i use netflix everyday from command line without problems
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09:12<Brigo>version 0.19.0
09:12<ArtooDetoo>Brigo: i am interested ... how does it work from command line?
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09:12<Gamer1204>ahh, how do I check what version libnss3?
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09:13<Brigo>ups, i sorry
09:13<Gamer1204>and netflix from cli?
09:13<ArtooDetoo>Gamer1204: dpkg -l | grep libnss3
09:13<Brigo>i was talking about peerflix, not netflix :-/
09:13<Gamer1204>the result is: ii libnss3:amd64 2:3.14.5-1+deb7u3 amd64 Network Security Service libraries
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09:14<ArtooDetoo>I think you need at least 3.16.2
09:16<Gamer1204>ahh, but can I instal that package with out getting issues?
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09:17<ArtooDetoo>is there any reason for you to run wheezy on a desktop pc?
09:17<ArtooDetoo>and not upgrade to jessie?
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09:18<Gamer1204>jessie is unstable? and I run a laptop with encrypted lvm :P
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09:19<ArtooDetoo>mine is running very stable ;)
09:19<Electron>me too
09:19<Electron>mine is very stable
09:19<Electron>using lvm2
09:20<Gamer1204>so you suggest I update my sources.list and give it a go?
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09:20<Gamer1204>I do not really care if I screw up my system, so I guess I could try
09:20<ArtooDetoo>at least you can look what packages need to be upgraded besides libnss3
09:21<Marillion>Gamer1204: use stable + http://backports.debian.org/ for chromium (recently chrome 38....)
09:22<ArtooDetoo>netflix doesn't run in chromium though ...
09:22<ArtooDetoo>iirc
09:22<Gamer1204>nope, chromium doesn't work
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09:22<Gamer1204>something with drm
09:23<Gamer1204>packages
09:23<Gamer1204>that comes with chrome :P
09:23<Gamer1204>but to change to jessie I simply have to replace wheezy with jessie in sources.list?
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09:26<ArtooDetoo>i guess so
09:26<ArtooDetoo>and stable with testing
09:26<Gamer1204>ofc :P I knew I was forgetting something
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09:27<ArtooDetoo>good luck, have to go afk for a while
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09:27<Gamer1204>thanks, I will see what will happen next
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09:33<Marillion>ArtooDetoo, Gamer1204 : it doesn't know that, ok, that stupid
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09:35<Gamer1204>what?
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09:36<Marillion>Gamer1204: that chromium doesn't work with netflix
09:37<Gamer1204>ahh, yeah, but that is because big companies do not understand what opensource means and they want their drm
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09:41<Marillion>Gamer1204: indeed
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09:42<kolkort>hi there debianers. Looking into debian, need something to have installed as a casual desktop system (writing in libreoffice, movies and some music...). what i need it is to be stable and reliable. does debian, with some tinkering, fit the bill?
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09:47<jmlongo>well... it does fill the bill... without even the tinkering :)
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10:05<bouncebunny>Hello! I just installed a new debian system, however I selected targeted initrd. How can I change it to generic? initramfs.conf had "most" selected already. update-initramfs -c did not help me. The problem is that neither keyboard nor mouse worked on boot.
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10:11<gsimmons>dpkg: targeted
10:11<dpkg>The targeted/generic modules choice made during Debian installation in expert mode (5.0 "Lenny" and later releases) can be changed post-install by modifying the MODULES variable in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/driver-policy: MODULES=most (aka "generic", the default), MODULES=dep (aka "targeted"). See also initramfs.conf(5), update-initramfs(8), <initramfs>, <initrd>.
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10:15<bouncebunny>Thank you! Worked great
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10:39<petrol>hi I'm trying to buuild corrande and magnum asdescribed on their page but i have error 3.0 (native)": native package version may not have a revision
10:39<petrol>how should i fix it?
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10:40<petrol>http://mosra.cz/blog/corrade-doc/building-corrade.html#building-corrade-packages-deb
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10:44<petrol>It seems that building only binaries solves problem
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10:51<Gamer1204>Hi again, I just upgraded to Jessie(from wheezy), and now x doesn start anymore, I found that the ~/.Xinitrc file wasn present, I set it up to launch the default dm, but now I get a screen with ¨Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occured and the system can recover. All ectensions have been disabled as a precaution¨
10:51<Gamer1204>Can someone help me with this :P
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10:53<ArtooDetoo>Gamer1204: does it work with a "fresh user profile"?
10:54<Gamer1204>good point, let me check
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10:54<peter1138>Yeah, .Xinitrc isn't something necessary
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10:55<ArtooDetoo>peter1138: probably ... at least I don't have it and it works here
10:56<Gamer1204>A new user doesn work
10:56<ArtooDetoo>can you paste the Xorg.log file?
10:56<blast007>testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
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10:57<Gamer1204>I can paste it, just not sure how I am going to upload it by cli
10:57<Gamer1204>(using pidgin on another device)
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10:57<ArtooDetoo>blast007 is right, let's continue in #debian-next
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10:58<blast007>!pastebinit
10:58<dpkg>pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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10:59<Gamer1204>http://pastebin.com/eQpN64j4
11:00<Gamer1204>o ok artoo :P
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12:43<angel_>hola
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12:46<angel_>hola
12:48<angel_>ola
12:48<ArtooDetoo>!ask
12:48<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
12:49<angel_>que
12:50<ArtooDetoo>!es
12:50<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
12:52<angel_>ola
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12:58<angel_>ola jordy sos de apellido gallo contsta angy
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13:04<Madeline21> Watch Me Suck Real Big Dick On My Site http://bit.do/sexxxvideohot
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13:23<mitrom>for fucks sake
13:23<mitrom>why
13:23<mitrom>why so many trolls
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13:24<AlexMax>?
13:24<mitrom><Madeline21> Watch Me Suck Real Big Dick On My Site http://**************88
13:24<mitrom>I'm curious who thinks this'll work
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13:24<AlexMax>I dunno about you, but that looks like I link I would click immediately without a second thought
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13:25<mitrom>lol
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13:26<AlexMax>9_9
13:26<AlexMax>/w 2
13:27<mitrom>http://puu.sh/dxhoZ/3e4f0620c0.png
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13:27<mitrom>why did i just...
13:27<mitrom>Hrmm
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13:29<Finetundra>hello, i'd like to know how to add a startup application. i've found the interface to do so however i don't really understand what i need to do there
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13:32<valdyn>Finetundra: *what* do you want to start?
13:33<Finetundra>xchat
13:33<valdyn>Finetundra: in which desktop environment?
13:33<Finetundra>i believe it is gnome fallback
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13:35<valdyn>Finetundra: in which debian release?
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13:36<Finetundra>7.7 (wheezy) 32-bit
13:36<valdyn>Finetundra: if you gnome still has a program called "gnome-session-properties", then you can do this via GUI, else you cant
13:36<valdyn>judd: versions gnome-session
13:36<judd>Package: gnome-session on i386 -- squeeze: 2.30.2-3; wheezy: 3.4.2.1-4; sid: 3.14.0-2; jessie: 3.14.0-2
13:36<valdyn>Finetundra: try running it "gnome-session-properties"
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13:37<Finetundra>valdyn, as i said, i've found the interface but i do not understand how to use it
13:38<valdyn>Finetundra: or "To start certain applications on login, copy the relevant .desktop file from /usr/share/applications/ to ~/.config/autostart/"
13:38<Finetundra>gotcha. thanks
13:38<valdyn>Finetundra: those are the 2 alternatives. I cant explain gnome-session-properties to you, i dont have that program
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14:28<awal>How to open an x file in /usr/share/doc/ with libre office-writer?
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14:29<awal>I used "libreoffice --writer /usr/share/doc/installation-guide-i386/es/*.html" and I got dozens of libreoffice-writer for that file
14:29<awal>dozens of instances ^
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14:30<awal>How to open the whole file in only one libreoffice-writer instance?
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14:34<mark_>the wildcard could be the giveaway?
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14:35<mark_>how many .html files are in that folder?
14:35<Milton>hi guys! How is it going? I've just surfed through the WWW but didn't find relevant info. Is it a way to remove package without removing dependencies?
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14:37<mark_>sudo dpkg -r --force-all package_name
14:37<awal>mark_, like 100
14:38<mark_>thnx
14:38<Milton>@mark_ isn't that supposed to break the system?
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14:38<mark_>afaik not. Please read the manpage for dpkg before doing it
14:38<Milton>okay, thanks
14:38<mark_>you know how to read the manpage do you?
14:39<Milton>I do, yes lol
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14:39<mark_>you never know ;-)
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14:50<Milton>Guys, guess what, Jessie freeze is all about systemd?
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14:55<valdyn>Milton: no?
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14:56<Milton>valdyn: you asking me?
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14:57<valdyn>Milton: nah, i meant no!
14:57<Milton>ah, okay, but so what is all about if shortly?
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14:58<Milton>valdyn:
14:58<valdyn>Milton: freeze is standard procedure for any debian release process
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14:59<valdyn>!longest freeze
14:59<valdyn>heh
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15:00<Milton>valdyn: ah yes exactly what I've read about
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15:38<fripster>first time user here... anyone there?
15:38<mtn>everyone left
15:38<fripster>grin
15:38<mtn>just ask :)
15:38<blast007>fripster: do you have a question about Debian linux?
15:38<fripster>just a small question. running Debian Jessie
15:38<blast007>testing/unstable support is in #debian-next
15:39<fripster>okay... sorry!
15:39<fripster>will go there then
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16:16<trololo>Hi all simple question about iceweasel and flash player... I have from repos flashplugin-nonfree
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16:17<trololo>but I'm getting from some webs that flash should update
16:18<mtn>trololo: iceweasel on comes with an older version of flash. to use the newest you would have to run chromium with the pepperflash plugin. with stable that means getting it from backports, I believe.
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16:18<mtn>trololo: you can also just ignore the warning
16:19<trololo>mtn, yeah thought something like that as i check on apt and there was no update
16:19<devil_>trololo: other than that, do: update-flashplugin-nonfree -iv
16:19<devil_>trololo: apt updates the plugin architecture, not the flashplayer
16:20<mtn>the errors will still be there after that, though
16:20<devil_>but the player will be save
16:20<mtn>devil_: don't think so ;)
16:20<devil_>well, as save as it is atm
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16:25<trololo>why chromium pepperflash cant be installed on iceweasel?
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16:25<mtn>trololo: wrong plugin format
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16:28<trololo>Thanks just read it at debian wiki
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16:29<trololo>dpkg, beer
16:29<dpkg>hmm... beer is liquid gold mate
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16:58<ary>I instaled zsnes on my debian, but when i try to run I got an error: zsnes: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. How do I fix that?
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17:59<rryoumaa>i cannot boot. 1) installed from netinst using vm to a brand new fast drive. 2) took a good rsync snapshot of boot and root. 3) aptitude update and upgrade, (note: this was BEFORE recent security updates in debian). booting worked fine. 4) restored root and boot to the pre-upgrade rsync snapshots. booting worked fine. aptitude update and upgrade (note: this includes newer stuff in debian wheezy from security
17:59<rryoumaa> team that did not exist previously). then boot. now it says "gave up waiting for root device". and it says it can't find /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt. any clues?
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18:00<rryoumaa>(for clarity: there should be a "5)" before the second aptitude update)
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18:05<rryoumaa>i get a busybox prompt. /dev/mapper has only control in it. i can do cryptsetup luksOpen and it does not error. now what do i do to find out why it wasn't run before?
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18:10<nielegalny>Hiho, anybody here? \o/
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18:15<nielegalny>Any body here? >.<
18:15<nielegalny>or ... Naah? :D
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18:18<Marillion>nielegalny: https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/Netiquette
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18:21<ary>ArtooDetoo, I add i386 arch
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18:27<ary>ArtooDetoo, I add the i386 arch
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18:28<ary>ArtooDetoo, installed some multiarch packages that works fine, but steam and zsnes are giving this error
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18:43<devil_>ary: apt-file search libGL.so.1
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18:52<bypass>wtf apt-file
18:52<bypass>nice tip!
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19:25<rryoumaa>i am supposed to try running initramfs, but i don't seem to have it, and aptitude install initramfs-tools does not seem to install it
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19:27<rryoumaa>never mind, got that part
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19:31<krenken>what is the easiest way to set up a folder share to windows. complete noob here.
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19:32<devil_>krenken: probably samba
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20:33<losp>hola
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20:42<Finetundra>anyone know how to install the .NET framework through WINE. it won't let me
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20:43<sney>Finetundra: winetricks?
20:43<Finetundra>sney, won't let me
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20:43<peter1138>What's wrong with mono?
20:44<sney>I haven't played with wine in a long time but I remember it working pretty easily.
20:44<Finetundra>mono just isn't doing anything useful right now
20:44<sney>are you using amd64 wine perhaps? i386 is better supported and most windows apps are still 32-bit
20:44<Finetundra>32 bit
20:44<peter1138>Can you elucidate upon "won't let me"?
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20:45<Finetundra>it will run up to the setup stage and then quit without a trace
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21:17<justlooked>Всем привет
21:17<justlooked>это же чат я так понимаю?
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21:20<root__>heyyyy
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22:06<buka>my lxpanel is blinking
22:06<buka>can someone help me with that?
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22:33<Guest2026>I can't find anyway to get Iceweasel to use my second soundcard.
22:33<Guest2026>How do you guys do this???
22:34<Guest2026>I tried switching cards by changing ~/.asoundrc and then sudo alsa reload
22:34<Guest2026>And that didn't do anything.
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