Back to Home / #debian / 2014 / 12 / Prev Day | Next Day
#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-23

---Logopened Tue Dec 23 00:00:53 2014
00:01-!-ItSANgo [~itsango@zaq3d2ec1b9.zaq.ne.jp] has joined #debian
00:04-!-ohdear [~hdw1@97-115-159-28.spkn.qwest.net] has joined #debian
00:04-!-cjm [~cjm@cpe-74-79-234-124.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
00:06-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:06-!-darkbasic_ [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
00:07-!-sidmo [~sidmo@p5489D810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:07-!-sidmo [~sidmo@p5489D810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
00:09-!-DennisTheTiger [~dennis@c-67-160-40-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:09-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
00:10-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:12-!-sadgeek [~smuxi@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust142.aztw.cable.virginm.net] has joined #debian
00:12-!-freedomrun [~quassel@86.61.9.5] has joined #debian
00:13-!-AndChat|637364 [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:13-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
00:13-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:14-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:14-!-darokthar [~darokthar@VPNPOOL01-0051.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:15-!-shawn_ [~shawn@c-66-235-47-41.sea.wa.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #debian
00:16-!-SamB_laptop [~SamB@2001:470:1f07:57:70e4:706b:d2ec:3c2c] has joined #debian
00:17-!-DennisTheTiger [~dennis@c-67-160-40-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #debian
00:18-!-devil [~devil@00012f05.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:18-!-devil [~devil@00012f05.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:19-!-shawn_ [~shawn@c-66-235-47-41.sea.wa.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit []
00:21-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:21-!-sadgeek [~smuxi@cpc15-aztw25-2-0-cust142.aztw.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:22-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:22-!-ohdear [~hdw1@97-115-159-28.spkn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:25-!-paxmark9 [~paxtormar@50.72.94.240] has left #debian [Leaving]
00:34-!-mrjazzcat [~mrjazzcat@c-24-8-176-66.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:35-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:36-!-ozymandias [~ozymadias@2601:c:2280:44b:2d4a:2eff:f1ff:a69f] has joined #debian
00:38-!-mode/#debian [+l 655] by debhelper
00:39-!-osw [~osw@190.150.86.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:40-!-ainx [~ainx@subs13-223-255-229-73.three.co.id] has joined #debian
00:42-!-ozymandias [~ozymadias@2601:c:2280:44b:2d4a:2eff:f1ff:a69f] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:44-!-ainx [~ainx@subs13-223-255-229-73.three.co.id] has quit []
00:48-!-valvalion [~valvalion@91.179.2.130] has joined #debian
00:49-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:50-!-jm_ [flier@000125af.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
01:05-!-griffen [~oftc-webi@5DZAABDW5.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:10-!-sfllaw_ [~smuxi@151.152.251.23.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined #debian
01:17-!-vibora| [~vibora@srv.cobrasbyte.de] has joined #debian
01:17-!-vibora [~vibora@srv.cobrasbyte.de] has quit [Quit: Quit, ByeBye]
01:17-!-vibora| is now known as vibora
01:18-!-vibora| [~vibora@srv.cobrasbyte.de] has joined #debian
01:18-!-fr33domlover [~fr33domlo@5.102.236.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:18-!-vibora is now known as Guest2675
01:18-!-Guest2675 [~vibora@srv.cobrasbyte.de] has quit []
01:18-!-vibora| [~vibora@srv.cobrasbyte.de] has quit []
01:18-!-vibora| [~vibora@srv.cobrasbyte.de] has joined #debian
01:18-!-superusr [~tf@cm56-159-73.liwest.at] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
01:19-!-skribblezatcha [~skribblez@0001bec4.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
01:20-!-sfllaw_ [~smuxi@151.152.251.23.bc.googleusercontent.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:20-!-skribblezatcha [~skribblez@0001bec4.user.oftc.net] has quit []
01:21-!-skribblezatcha [~skribblez@0001bec4.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
01:23-!-vicamo [~vicamo@175.41.48.77] has joined #debian
01:24-!-screenn [~screen@37.229.24.90] has joined #debian
01:27-!-cewood [~cewood@202.10.91.226] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
01:28-!-fr33domlover [~fr33domlo@5.102.236.172] has joined #debian
01:40-!-smulverine [~smulverin@42-2-1-082.static.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
01:43-!-Q-Master^Work [~q-master@2.93.228.203] has joined #debian
01:43-!-Airwave [~Airwave@0001a5d2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye]
01:44-!-Airwave [~Airwave@94-246-37.45.3p.ntebredband.no] has joined #debian
01:44-!-Airwave [~Airwave@94-246-37.45.3p.ntebredband.no] has quit []
01:44-!-Airwave [~Airwave@94-246-37.45.3p.ntebredband.no] has joined #debian
01:45-!-t0n11 [~tony@153.Red-83-52-183.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
01:47-!-nardev [~nardev@77.238.221.157] has joined #debian
01:48-!-wompa [~wompa@0001ac92.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Computer went offline.]
01:49-!-smuxi [~smuxi@151.152.251.23.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined #debian
01:49-!-sparxz [~sparxz@86-42-152-189-dynamic.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #debian
01:50-!-smuxi [~smuxi@151.152.251.23.bc.googleusercontent.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:00-!-wavekidsjp [~wavekidsj@h219-110-168-169.catv02.itscom.jp] has joined #debian
02:03-!-aiaco [~aiaco@62.18.95.158] has joined #debian
02:08-!-cbx_cubic [~kawocube@ip211.213-181-130.pegonet.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:09-!-kisisten [~magyar@76.21.119.81] has quit [Quit: Riding the split]
02:09-!-ribe_ [~ribe@2001:470:deb8:162:1dc6:69e0:f6:55e1] has joined #debian
02:09-!-Gnk [~Gintaras@77.241.206.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:09-!-HerbTarlek [~HerbTarle@0001f7cb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
02:10-!-daniel [~daniel@94.190.188.75] has joined #debian
02:10-!-daniel [~daniel@94.190.188.75] has quit []
02:11-!-sleser [~sleser@ool-1892fdfb.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
02:15-!-JohnML [~JohnML@ip-109-90-185-0.hsi11.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian
02:16-!-Herb_Tarlek [~HerbTarle@0001f7cb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:16-!-HerbTarlek is now known as Herb_Tarlek
02:18-!-vibora| is now known as vibora
02:23-!-lepalom [~quassel@soho.upc.es] has joined #debian
02:23-!-khmm [~smuxi@89-67-140-34.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
02:30-!-is001_fred [~fred@eur68-1-82-231-228-189.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
02:31-!-Scar3cr0w [~Scar3cr0w@173-13-173-53-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian
02:31-!-khmm [~smuxi@89-67-140-34.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:32-!-khmm [~smuxi@91.194.188.144] has joined #debian
02:34-!-leo [~leo@bb219-75-72-61.singnet.com.sg] has joined #debian
02:34-!-leo [~leo@bb219-75-72-61.singnet.com.sg] has quit []
02:36-!-NicolasG [~nicolas@port424.ds1-noe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #debian
02:40-!-fooctrl [~havoc@2a00:1630:13:1d3:fef8:aeff:fe55:390d] has joined #debian
02:41-!-aborrero [~aborrero@deathstar.cica.es] has joined #debian
02:41-!-spencer [~spencer@c-50-148-182-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #debian
02:41-!-spencer [~spencer@c-50-148-182-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit []
02:42-!-ToApolytoXaos [~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128] has joined #debian
02:42-!-spencer [~spencer@c-50-148-182-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #debian
02:42-!-spencer [~spencer@c-50-148-182-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #debian []
02:47-!-ToApolytoXaos [~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
02:48-!-mode/#debian [+l 661] by debhelper
02:48-!-NicolasG [~nicolas@port424.ds1-noe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:48-!-fooctrl2 [~havoc@2a00:1630:13:1d3:fef8:aeff:fe55:390d] has joined #debian
02:49-!-ToApolytoXaos [~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128] has joined #debian
02:51-!-wavekidsjp [~wavekidsj@h219-110-168-169.catv02.itscom.jp] has quit [Quit: bye..]
02:58-!-gusnan [~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se] has joined #debian
02:59-!-gusnan_ [~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:02-!-sc [~sc@2a02:8084:a000:1980:227:10ff:febd:4878] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:05-!-andreas_ [~andreas@p20030080CE02D648022682FFFE9BD4AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
03:05-!-andreas_ [~andreas@p20030080CE02D648022682FFFE9BD4AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit []
03:05-!-Tuxist [~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-194-013.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #debian
03:07-!-freex [~user@62-47-178-173.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #debian
03:12-!-ebru [~ebru@78.185.20.80] has joined #debian
03:13-!-towo` [~towo@ipb2191d47.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
03:17-!-tuxampol [~Mylin@ppp-46-244-171-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
03:19-!-helmut_ [~helmut@2a02:8388:2401:c680:d8fd:eb28:8cd3:6040] has joined #debian
03:20-!-swirl [~swirl@host143-151-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
03:22-!-freedomrun [~quassel@86.61.9.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:24-!-bilbo [~quassel@146.185.137.224] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:25-!-bilbo [~quassel@146.185.137.224] has joined #debian
03:27-!-quenouille [~quenouill@gbl57-1-78-228-29-98.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
03:28-!-mode/#debian [+l 667] by debhelper
03:29-!-SamB_laptop [~SamB@2001:470:1f07:57:70e4:706b:d2ec:3c2c] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:40-!-ao2 [~ao2@2001:1418:117::1] has joined #debian
03:42-!-screenn [~screen@37.229.24.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:47-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has joined #debian
03:54-!-gusnan [~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: leaving]
03:55-!-^A^ [~quassel@180.173.59.0] has joined #debian
03:56-!-jacknife [~jacknife@87.18.178.245] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
03:57-!-ebru [~ebru@78.185.20.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
03:57-!-subbe [~jsc@wan3.credativ.com] has joined #debian
03:58-!-ph0b0s [~panos@ppp046177142216.access.hol.gr] has joined #debian
04:04-!-ToApolytoXaos [~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:05-!-tjader_ [~tjader@179.210.109.54] has joined #debian
04:08-!-adema [~adema@AMontsouris-552-1-123-61.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
04:09-!-tjader [~tjader@tylee.tjader.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:09-!-tjader_ is now known as tjader
04:13-!-supreme [~smuxi@74.114.47.2] has joined #debian
04:15-!-supreme [~smuxi@74.114.47.2] has left #debian []
04:15-!-NicolasG [~nicolas@2001:16d8:ddb2:0:fef8:aeff:fe15:54fa] has joined #debian
04:15-!-zanzarakiss [~zanzaraki@93-63-174-223.ip28.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
04:17-!-Saxman [~Saxman@141.99.226.124] has joined #debian
04:18-!-pamaury [~quassel@AClermont-Ferrand-652-1-135-89.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
04:19-!-REalm [~realm@213.197.136.186] has joined #debian
04:20-!-ToApolytoXaos [~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128] has joined #debian
04:22-!-anonnumberanon [~anonnumbe@2604:2000:d12e:5800:71fe:baef:c446:1c87] has joined #debian
04:23-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
04:25-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:30-!-NicolasG [~nicolas@2001:16d8:ddb2:0:fef8:aeff:fe15:54fa] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:30-!-mdupont [~mdupont@24.225.103.67] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:31-!-dranov [~dranov@92.80.208.234] has joined #debian
04:31-!-mdupont [~mdupont@24.225.103.67] has joined #debian
04:32-!-gry [~noone@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe89:8366] has joined #debian
04:33-!-^A^ [~quassel@180.173.59.0] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:39-!-francois [~smuxi@alf94-13-88-164-5-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
04:39-!-francois [~smuxi@alf94-13-88-164-5-240.fbx.proxad.net] has quit []
04:40-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-125-192.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
04:44-!-cornerman is now known as Guest2688
04:44-!-cornerman [~cornerman@xdsl-78-34-105-169.netcologne.de] has joined #debian
04:45-!-francois [~smuxi@alf94-13-88-164-5-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
04:45-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:45-!-francois [~smuxi@alf94-13-88-164-5-240.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:45-!-dranov_ [~dranov@92.80.2.94] has joined #debian
04:47-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:48-!-mode/#debian [+l 675] by debhelper
04:50-!-NicolasG [~nicolas@2001:16d8:ddb2:0:fef8:aeff:fe15:54fa] has joined #debian
04:51-!-Guest2688 [~cornerman@xdsl-78-34-241-239.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:51-!-dranov [~dranov@92.80.208.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:51<gry>please help, "Randr not supported: X server does not support required extension Randr", I don't know what to install. debian jessie. thanks.
04:52-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:53<jm_>for help with jessie join #debian-next
04:54<jm_>you might find some details in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
04:54<jm_>gry ^^^^^
04:55-!-speters [~sean@CPE-65-30-193-138.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:59<gry>I joined there. The file does not exist.
04:59<gry>It is a vps and I am trying to run xpra on it, it only gives the error I showed.
05:03-!-skribblezatcha [~skribblez@0001bec4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
05:07-!-mythos [~mythos@213.47.190.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:10-!-dranov_ [~dranov@92.80.2.94] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:10<gry>thank you jm_
05:12-!-CutMeOwnThroat [~boo@2a02:8070:d1a6:4300:6e62:6dff:fe4d:5cef] has joined #debian
05:13-!-Juzzika [~Qman@91.183.62.67] has joined #debian
05:14-!-freedomrun [~quassel@cpe-31-15-133-198.cable.telemach.net] has joined #debian
05:15-!-kilian_ [~kilian@neu67-3-82-239-81-116.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
05:18-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-125-192.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:24-!-screenn [~screen@195.160.233.253] has joined #debian
05:25-!-helmut_ [~helmut@2a02:8388:2401:c680:d8fd:eb28:8cd3:6040] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
05:26-!-lucianangelus [lucianange@80.165.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has joined #debian
05:29-!-krabador [~krabador_@95.238.177.135] has joined #debian
05:31-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-157-36.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
05:34-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:36-!-tuxampol [~Mylin@ppp-46-244-171-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
05:38-!-nils [~nils@ip-109-47-2-251.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
05:39-!-nils [~nils@ip-109-47-2-251.web.vodafone.de] has quit []
05:42-!-LocutusOfBorg1 [~Gianfranc@93-32-196-247.ip35.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
05:42-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:53-!-debalance [~debalance@2a02:908:f310:c880:1474:b61e:81d9:9323] has joined #debian
05:53-!-ItSANgo [~itsango@zaq3d2ec1b9.zaq.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving...]
06:00-!-cjm [~cjm@cpe-74-79-234-124.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
06:02-!-gry [~noone@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe89:8366] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:06-!-radu [~radu@95.77.161.151] has joined #debian
06:06-!-krabador [~krabador_@95.238.177.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:07-!-krabador [~krabador_@95.238.177.135] has joined #debian
06:07-!-ant777 [~jay@dom-gw2.smartbear.ru] has joined #debian
06:07-!-ant777 [~jay@dom-gw2.smartbear.ru] has left #debian []
06:08-!-radu is now known as minoobe
06:08-!-anonnumberanon [~anonnumbe@2604:2000:d12e:5800:71fe:baef:c446:1c87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:09-!-mellblack [~mellblack@37.58.155.42] has joined #debian
06:09-!-ItSANgo [~itsango@zaq3d2ec1b9.zaq.ne.jp] has joined #debian
06:09-!-mellblack [~mellblack@37.58.155.42] has quit []
06:10-!-dselect [~dselect@dselect.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ouch... that hurt]
06:10-!-sunkawakan [5337297c@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has joined #debian
06:11-!-dselect [~dselect@dselect.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:11<sunkawakan>hi all,
06:11<sunkawakan>www.debian.org seems inaccessible via ipv6
06:12<sunkawakan>tried "wget -6 www.debian.org"
06:12-!-debalance [~debalance@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:12-!-gjerich [~quassel@BSN-143-160-74.dynamic.siol.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:13<ixi>yeah
06:13-!-marcello1 [~marcello@host135-173-dynamic.46-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
06:13<ixi>debian.org seems to have aaaa record but www.debian.org does not
06:13-!-tommie-lie [~thomas@dslb-188-097-127-222.188.097.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #debian
06:13<peter1138>www.debian.org has IPv6 address 2001:610:1908:b000::148:14
06:14<peter1138>Additionally, it works over IPv6 for me.
06:14-!-grzegorz [~grzegorz@078088087218.szczecin.vectranet.pl] has joined #debian
06:14-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has joined #debian
06:16<sunkawakan>peter1138: do "wget -6 www.debian.org" works for you?
06:17-!-marcello1 [~marcello@host135-173-dynamic.46-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit []
06:17<sunkawakan>ixi: www.debian.org has 2 AAAA records
06:17-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
06:17-!-kropotkin [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
06:17-!-anonnumberanon [~anonnumbe@2604:2000:d12e:5800:71fe:baef:c446:1c87] has joined #debian
06:17<sunkawakan>2001:610:1908:b000::148:14 and 2001:41c8:1000:21::21:4
06:18-!-mode/#debian [+l 681] by debhelper
06:18-!-prokio [~jbk@ALille-157-1-114-10.w92-131.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
06:19-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:20-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:21<ixi>sunkawakan http://paste.debian.net/137832/
06:21<ixi>it doesn't.
06:21<sunkawakan>thanks ixi
06:21-!-prokio [~jbk@ALille-157-1-114-10.w92-131.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit []
06:25-!-kmshanah [~kmshanah@ppp59-167-139-100.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:26-!-vicamo [~vicamo@175.41.48.77] has quit [Quit: vicamo]
06:27-!-Guest2634 [~sergio@91.196.53.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:28-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@217.73.143.43] has joined #debian
06:29-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
06:30<peter1138>sunkawakan, yes, it works.
06:30<peter1138>ixi, so Google's DNS is wrong...
06:30-!-darkbasic_ [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
06:31<peter1138>geo*.debian.org have AAAA records.
06:31-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.77.63] has quit [Quit: If it wasn't written down, it didn't happen...]
06:31-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
06:31<ixi>that's possible
06:32-!-debalance [~debalance@2a02:908:f310:c880:d8a9:9545:2634:eeb6] has joined #debian
06:33-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.77.63] has joined #debian
06:33<peter1138>Google's server doesn't appear to return any IPv6 entries for anything.
06:33-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:33-!-kropotkin [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:34<ixi>peter1138 http://paste.debian.net/137833/
06:34<minoobe>:O
06:35-!-massitosco [~massitosc@93-33-5-144.ip42.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
06:35<massitosco>ciao
06:35<ixi>!it
06:35<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
06:35-!-Scooby999 [~guard@p54862A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
06:35-!-riksteri [~purple@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f96b-216.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #debian
06:36<peter1138>Hmm, right, stupid, I was assuming ipv6 on some common domains...
06:36<peter1138>Anyway, it's working. Maybe sunkawakan could do a traceroute.
06:37-!-Scooby999 [~guard@p54862A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit []
06:37-!-avalenn [~quassel@2a01:e35:8a40:5f00::dead:beef] has joined #debian
06:37-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:38-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
06:39<massitosco>!list
06:39<dpkg>massitosco: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
06:39<peter1138>:)
06:40<minoobe>e cineva din romania ?
06:44-!-Corey84 [~Corey84@ip-64-134-98-208.public.wayport.net] has joined #debian
06:44-!-Corey84 is now known as Guest2698
06:45-!-massitosco [~massitosc@93-33-5-144.ip42.fastwebnet.it] has left #debian []
06:48<mgv>minoobe: da. /join #debian-ro probabil gasesti mai multi acolo
06:50-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@000127d1.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:54-!-ultra [~ultra___@ip-83-101-78-204.customer.schedom-europe.net] has joined #debian
06:54-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
06:56-!-herman [~oftc-webi@tor.gravesdev.com] has joined #debian
06:57-!-minoobe [~radu@95.77.161.151] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:57<sunkawakan>peter1138: http://paste.debian.net/137835/
07:02-!-debalance [~debalance@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:03-!-zanzarakiss [~zanzaraki@93-63-174-223.ip28.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
07:03<ultra>hello
07:03<ultra>i am reading "2.3.1. Avoid Proprietary or Closed Hardware"
07:04<ultra>where can i find a list of this devices or drivers
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: buh bye!]
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:06-!-gon [~gon@95.60.62.177] has joined #debian
07:06-!-bafu [~bafu@175.41.48.77] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
07:06<gon>Buenos días!
07:06<gon>Felices fiestas!
07:07<jm_>!es
07:07<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
07:09-!-debalance [~debalance@2a02:908:f310:c880:d8a9:9545:2634:eeb6] has joined #debian
07:10-!-grzegorz [~grzegorz@078088087218.szczecin.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:11-!-snebel [~snebel@185.7.185.166] has joined #debian
07:14<snebel>just testing this snapshot lvm feature
07:15<snebel>i don't understand why after create the logical volumen it still increments
07:15<snebel>and why if this is increasing i just see the state of the time when i took the snapshop
07:15<snebel>once its mounted into the fs
07:15-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:16-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:18-!-Brigo [~Brigo@199.Red-88-21-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
07:22-!-kropotkin [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
07:22-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
07:22-!-rfreeman [~rfreeman@0001f8eb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:24-!-snebel [~snebel@185.7.185.166] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:24-!-dranov_ [~dranov@92.80.2.94] has joined #debian
07:25-!-AceFrahm [~acefrahm@71-90-219-240.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de]
07:26-!-casper366 [~casper@chello080108247012.8.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #debian
07:30-!-darkbasic_ [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
07:30-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:31-!-Jackson_waartaa [JacksonIsa@li126-95.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:31-!-sjefen6_ [~sjefen6@2001:464b:d995:0:20c:29ff:fe15:2284] has joined #debian
07:31-!-Hariharan [~harihare@106.51.132.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:32-!-sjefen6 [~sjefen6@ti0098a400-1726.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:35-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@217.73.143.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:36-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:36-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:36-!-ebru [~ebru@78.185.20.80] has joined #debian
07:36-!-dranov_ [~dranov@92.80.2.94] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:37<sunkawakan>peter1138: do "wget -6 www.debian.org" work for you?
07:38-!-Capt_Sindbad [~Capt_Sind@p4FF83B0E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
07:38-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has quit []
07:38-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:39<peter1138>Yes
07:39-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:42-!-wavekidsjp [~wavekidsj@h219-110-168-169.catv02.itscom.jp] has joined #debian
07:43-!-Guest2698 [~Corey84@ip-64-134-98-208.public.wayport.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:46-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
07:47-!-hans [~hans@546B65F7.cm-12-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
07:49-!-Hariharan [~harihare@106.51.241.103] has joined #debian
07:50-!-darkbasic_ [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
07:50-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
07:52-!-hans [~hans@546B65F7.cm-12-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #debian [Leaving]
07:54<zumbi>which software can be used for recording desktop to produce a video?
07:54-!-dardevelin [~dardeveli@a95-95-29-159.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:55-!-topcyde [~topcyde@75.32.49.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:55<jm_>zumbi: apt-cache search screencast
07:55<sunkawakan>ok thank you peter1138
07:56-!-herman [~oftc-webi@5DZAABD2K.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
07:57<zumbi>jm_: thanks... looking at google it seems gnome3 has a builtin for that
08:00-!-fstd [~fstd@xdsl-87-78-17-210.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:00-!-fstd [~fstd@xdsl-78-35-81-86.netcologne.de] has joined #debian
08:00-!-mitry [~mdou@p4FC5404A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
08:00<peter1138>recordmydesktop
08:01-!-beknowly [~Thunderbi@50.46.243.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:01-!-beknowly [~Thunderbi@50.46.243.4] has joined #debian
08:03-!-zanzarakiss [~zanzaraki@dynamic-adsl-94-39-85-194.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #debian
08:03-!-kropotkin [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:03-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:09-!-Capt_Sindbad [~Capt_Sind@p4FF83B0E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
08:12-!-pngo [~pngo@71-223-46-51.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #debian
08:14-!-irl [~irl@lepton.shiftout.net] has joined #debian
08:15-!-oxenfrosch [~oxenfrosc@dsbg-4db58008.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
08:16-!-mitry_ [~mdou@p4FC54082.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
08:16-!-jemadux [~jemadux@0001a5f7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:16<gon> A alguien más le esta dando avisos de seguridad el plugin de Flash con el navegador Iceweasel?
08:17-!-zanzarakiss [~zanzaraki@dynamic-adsl-94-39-85-194.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: zanzarakiss]
08:18<jm_>!es
08:18<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
08:18-!-khmm [~smuxi@91.194.188.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:21-!-vicamo [~vicamo@36-226-193-130.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has joined #debian
08:23-!-oxenfrosch [~oxenfrosc@dsbg-4db58008.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
08:23-!-mitry [~mdou@p4FC5404A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:24-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:27-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:28-!-jm_ [flier@000125af.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Disconnecting]
08:32-!-mtn [~mtn@dpc6744161023.direcpc.com] has joined #debian
08:35-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:35-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
08:35-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
08:35-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:39-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
08:39-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:40-!-aborrero [~aborrero@deathstar.cica.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:40-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
08:42-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
08:42-!-debalance [~debalance@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:45<beknowly>Does anybody know why iet on debian wheezy is throwing kernel panics when vmware hosts connect to the target?
08:48-!-ventura- [~ventura@hq.ventura.pw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
08:49-!-ventura- [~ventura@hq.ventura.pw] has joined #debian
08:51-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:51-!-subbe [~jsc@wan3.credativ.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:51-!-subbe [~jsc@wan3.credativ.com] has joined #debian
08:53-!-debalance [~debalance@2a02:908:f310:c880:d8a9:9545:2634:eeb6] has joined #debian
08:54-!-aguslr [~aguslr@0001a2ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:54-!-aguslr [~aguslr@7.109.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
08:54-!-bdols [~bdols@cpe-173-174-35-62.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:54-!-bdols [~bdols@cpe-173-174-35-62.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
08:55-!-mtearle [~smuxi@162.248.167.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:55-!-mtearle [~smuxi@162.248.167.43] has joined #debian
08:57-!-roniz [~roniz@host86-155-118-80.range86-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #debian
08:57-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
08:58-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
08:59-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@46.183.121.1] has joined #debian
09:00-!-lostatwork [~lostatwor@cpe-65-25-225-5.new.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
09:03-!-wkf [~wkf@99-181-22-190.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
09:05-!-MadHatter48 [~MadHatter@46.183.122.194] has joined #debian
09:05-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h201n7-lk-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #debian
09:08-!-sebul [~sebul@1.230.18.36] has joined #debian
09:09-!-cohen [~joe@HSI-KBW-078-042-016-161.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #debian
09:09<cohen>irc://irc.abjects.net:6667/beast-xdcc
09:10-!-Saxman [~Saxman@141.99.226.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:10-!-cohen [~joe@HSI-KBW-078-042-016-161.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit []
09:11-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:12-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@46.183.121.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:12-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
09:12-!-kropotkin [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
09:14-!-CutMeOwnThroat [~boo@2a02:8070:d1a6:4300:6e62:6dff:fe4d:5cef] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:15-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-157-36.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:15-!-debalance [~debalance@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:19-!-sebul [~sebul@1.230.18.36] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:21-!-mtn [~mtn@dpc6744161023.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:24-!-griffen [~oftc-webi@s16554760.onlinehome-server.info] has joined #debian
09:25-!-mtn [~mtn@dpc6744163217.direcpc.com] has joined #debian
09:26-!-debalance [~debalance@2a02:908:f310:c880:d8a9:9545:2634:eeb6] has joined #debian
09:28-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-223-76.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
09:28-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-223-76.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
09:28-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-223-76.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
09:29-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:31-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
09:32-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:33-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:33-!-Brigo [~Brigo@199.Red-88-21-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Byes]
09:34-!-Brigo [~Brigo@199.Red-88-21-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:35-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
09:38-!-mode/#debian [+l 687] by debhelper
09:39-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.77.63] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:41-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.77.63] has joined #debian
09:41-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:41-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:42-!-osw [~osw@190.150.86.16] has joined #debian
09:42-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:44-!-Sebastinas [sebastian@alphacentauri.ramacher.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:44-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:45-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:47-!-ImpulseFG [~ImpulseFG@174.51.90.186] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:47-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:48-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:48-!-Leon [~Vesper@524BB2A9.cm-4-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:52-!-Sebastinas [sebastian@alphacentauri.ramacher.at] has joined #debian
09:52-!-ratcheer [~ratcheer@0001a5d7.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:53-!-lepalom [~quassel@soho.upc.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:53-!-darkbasic_ [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
09:54-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:57-!-MadHatter48 [~MadHatter@46.183.122.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:57-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:57-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@46.183.122.194] has joined #debian
09:58-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
09:58-!-awal [~Awal@198-48-201-109.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined #debian
10:00<awal>Any suggestion for a lightweight and easy for use command line tool for convert documents (pdf too word)?
10:02-!-wkf [~wkf@99-181-22-190.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
10:02-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:02-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
10:03-!-kropotkin [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:03-!-carstenw [~carsten@ip-109-42-3-90.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
10:03-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:03-!-tuxampol [~Mylin@ppp-46-244-171-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #debian
10:03-!-carstenw [~carsten@ip-109-42-3-90.web.vodafone.de] has quit []
10:03-!-Slash [~night@ip-2a02-214b-8203-c500-0218-f3ff-fee0-b2b1.ip6.forthnet.gr] has joined #debian
10:03-!-Leon [~Vesper@524BB2A9.cm-4-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #debian
10:03-!-Slash [~night@ip-2a02-214b-8203-c500-0218-f3ff-fee0-b2b1.ip6.forthnet.gr] has left #debian []
10:04<abrotman>awal: that depends on the format of the PDF document
10:04-!-debalance [~debalance@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:06-!-gnugr [~gnugr@gnugr.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
10:06-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:07-!-debalance [~debalance@2a02:908:f310:c880:8961:35cd:9a59:671b] has joined #debian
10:09<awal>abrotman, so no idea about pdf formats. A simple pdf document like this one for example http://www.inf.ed.ac.uk/teaching/courses/cp1/unix.pdf
10:10-!-msantana [~marcelo@msantana.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me]
10:11<abrotman>judd: file pdf2txt
10:11<judd>Search for pdf2txt in wheezy/i386: python-pdfminer: usr/bin/pdf2txt
10:13-!-sfllaw [~smuxi@151.152.251.23.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined #debian
10:13-!-NicolasG [~nicolas@2001:16d8:ddb2:0:fef8:aeff:fe15:54fa] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:13-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has joined #debian
10:13-!-reazem [~reazem@2607:fad8:4:6:2ab2:bdff:fe53:b330] has joined #debian
10:14<awal>abrotman, ok. i'll try the python-pdfminer. thanks
10:15-!-sfllaw [~smuxi@151.152.251.23.bc.googleusercontent.com] has left #debian []
10:15<awal>abrotman, I thought that pdf is only one "text" format called pdf. tell me, is there any difference between the pdf document of the first link and this https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Capital-Volume-I.pdf
10:15<awal>just curious
10:16-!-gnugr [~gnugr@gnugr.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:16-!-job1 [~job@pool-108-35-115-102.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
10:17-!-oufo_ [~ET@77.49.176.156.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has joined #debian
10:21-!-Skald_9_ [~bert@2a02:1810:1a0b:e500:d17e:7920:2d5a:47c3] has joined #debian
10:21-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:21-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
10:22-!-Human_G33k [~Human_G33@139.103.179.114] has joined #debian
10:22-!-test_ [~test@net-93-145-49-170.cust.vodafonedsl.it] has joined #debian
10:23-!-debalance [~debalance@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:23-!-oufo [~ET@77.49.178.226.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:23-!-msantana [~marcelo@msantana.eng.br] has joined #debian
10:23-!-test_ [~test@net-93-145-49-170.cust.vodafonedsl.it] has quit []
10:25-!-jmlongo [~jmlongo@200.12.137.20] has joined #debian
10:26-!-edrz [~eric@static-71-178-198-5.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:29-!-AndChat|637364 [~AndChat63@60-248-162-49.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
10:30-!-gon [~gon@95.60.62.177] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
10:31-!-ao2 [~ao2@2001:1418:117::1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:31-!-ao2 [~ao2@2001:1418:117::1] has joined #debian
10:34-!-superusr [~tf@cm56-159-73.liwest.at] has joined #debian
10:36-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-75-238-140.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:36-!-bcnjr5 [~bcnjr5@adsl-074-166-205-113.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #debian
10:37-!-vicamo [~vicamo@36-226-193-130.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: vicamo]
10:38-!-[machine] [~timb@paris1.fr.nth-dimension.org.uk] has quit [Quit: Time wasted on IRC: 112 days 2 hours 22 minutes 16 seconds]
10:38-!-fooctrl2 [~havoc@2a00:1630:13:1d3:fef8:aeff:fe55:390d] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:38-!-fooctrl [~havoc@2a00:1630:13:1d3:fef8:aeff:fe55:390d] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:40-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:40-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:40-!-lstanisic [~stanisic@winnetou.inrialpes.fr] has joined #debian
10:40-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
10:41-!-bluewater [~nautics-a@000127d1.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
10:44-!-mythos [~mythos@213.47.190.195] has joined #debian
10:45-!-txomon|home [~txomon@219.82-130-138.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #debian
10:46-!-t0n1 [~tony@43.Red-83-34-58.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
10:47-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@46.183.122.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:48-!-[UP]Crystal [~crystal@nat3-minsk-pool-46-53-182-28.telecom.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
10:49-!-andrey [~andrey@88.87.93.132] has joined #debian
10:50-!-aranax [~aranax@209.140.56.190.static.intelnet.net.gt] has joined #debian
10:50-!-andrey [~andrey@88.87.93.132] has quit []
10:51-!-shterio [~shterio@94.190.188.75] has joined #debian
10:51-!-shterio [~shterio@94.190.188.75] has quit []
10:51-!-ecki [~ecki@p57B72D85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
10:51-!-tyler [~tyler@142-165-43-60.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #debian
10:52-!-ecki [~ecki@p57B72D85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:53<tyler>what is in that new pumpkin spice roast coffee at the leading coffee supply store?!?
10:53-!-keving [~kevin@modemcable048.228-22-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian
10:53<tyler>DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! GMO IS BAD
10:53-!-keving [~kevin@modemcable048.228-22-96.mc.videotron.ca] has left #debian []
10:54-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@46.183.121.1] has joined #debian
10:54<tyler>sup mad hatter man
10:54<tyler>you mad brah
10:54<abrotman>tyler: Do you need help with Debian?
10:55<tyler>yes
10:55-!-andri [~andri@36.70.22.241] has joined #debian
10:55-!-Rcart [~rcart@190.92.27.105] has joined #debian
10:55<abrotman>tyler: ?
10:56-!-ruben_varnish_ [~ruben@78.156.13.108] has joined #debian
10:56-!-huayra_ [~huayra__@78.156.13.108] has joined #debian
10:56-!-huayra_ [~huayra__@78.156.13.108] has quit []
10:56<tyler>how does one find the XxX rated chat rooms?
10:56-!-ruben_varnish_ [~ruben@78.156.13.108] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:56-!-Juzzika [~Qman@91.183.62.67] has quit []
10:56-!-StathisA [~StathisA@athedsl-378035.home.otenet.gr] has joined #debian
10:57-!-Ptah [~Ptah@0001f5d0.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:57-!-JohnML [~JohnML@ip-109-90-185-0.hsi11.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
10:57<awal>tyler, try #microsoft-windows/meeting/adult
10:58<tyler>thank you!!!!
10:59<bcnjr5>?
10:59<andri>O
10:59-!-NicolasG [~nicolas@port424.ds1-noe.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #debian
11:00<tyler>aww theres nobody there :(
11:00-!-tyler [~tyler@142-165-43-60.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
11:02-!-t0n1 [~tony@43.Red-83-34-58.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:02-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
11:03-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
11:03-!-andri [~andri@36.70.22.241] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
11:04-!-bcnjr5 [~bcnjr5@adsl-074-166-205-113.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: It's getting _WIERD_!]
11:05-!-aerostitch [~aerostitc@2601:9:4400:ddd:1935:50e5:3232:be13] has joined #debian
11:06-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@p5B27B90E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
11:06-!-t0n1 [~tony@127.Red-79-144-20.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
11:06-!-sunkawakan [5337297c@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client]
11:06-!-StathisA [~StathisA@athedsl-378035.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:06-!-stevenm_ [~stevenm@stevenm.keele.netcentral.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:07-!-cjm [~cjm@cpe-74-79-234-124.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
11:08-!-AndChat|637364 [~AndChat63@60-248-162-49.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:09-!-CutMeOwnThroat [~boo@2a02:8070:d1a6:4300:6e62:6dff:fe4d:5cef] has joined #debian
11:10-!-awal [~Awal@198-48-201-109.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:13-!-subbe [~jsc@wan3.credativ.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
11:16-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-72-81-135-183.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:18-!-anonnumberanon [~anonnumbe@2604:2000:d12e:5800:71fe:baef:c446:1c87] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:22-!-trapier [~trapier@cpe-024-211-244-177.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:23-!-Wyzard [~mike@pool-72-81-135-183.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #debian
11:24-!-khmm [~smuxi@89-67-140-34.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
11:24-!-c01d [~c01d@dslb-084-059-085-183.084.059.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #debian
11:25-!-[machine] [~timb@00011e7d.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
11:27-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@60-248-162-49.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
11:28-!-mindfire [~smuxi@p5B338FD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
11:29-!-mindfire [~smuxi@p5B338FD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:29-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@46.183.121.1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:32-!-khmm [~smuxi@89-67-140-34.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:33<c01d>Hello everybody. Is this the right place to ask questions according to issues with the Debian documentation? I have a few questions around https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch03.en.html.
11:33-!-khmm [~smuxi@91.194.188.144] has joined #debian
11:33-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
11:34-!-mongoose [~mongoose@200.51.194.32] has joined #debian
11:35<mtn>c01d: you can ask here
11:37-!-adb [~IonMoldov@2a02:120b:2c0b:96c0:4c75:eff2:5cc0:57f2] has joined #debian
11:39-!-kilian_ [~kilian@neu67-3-82-239-81-116.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
11:44-!-Rcart [~rcart@190.92.27.105] has quit [Quit: leaving]
11:47<c01d>mtn, ok, thank you. I read somewhere on the mentioned page that with jessie the init process gets switched to systemd. While I am on testing now, I want to learn more on how systemd really works. I only find a lot of documentation about the old init process. Can you recommend some good documentation of systemd (suitable for bloody for newbies)? For example a step by step description? Additionally, I wonder why they say on the
11:47<c01d> mentioned page that "The actual init command on your system can be verified by the 'ps --pid 1 -f' command." while only the command without the trailing '-f' option gives me the actual init command (because with -f I only see init that is symlinked to /lib/systemd/systemd or so). How can I see the real init command from the ps command with -f? (Know what I mean? oO)
11:48-!-Saxman [~Saxman@46.114.132.248] has joined #debian
11:48-!-Saxman [~Saxman@46.114.132.248] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
11:48<mtn>c01d: you should be able to find lots of info about systemd. the debian wiki has info and the archlinux wiki has a fine page for systemd
11:49-!-Saxman [~Saxman@46.114.132.248] has joined #debian
11:49-!-Saxman [~Saxman@46.114.132.248] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
11:50-!-Saxman [~Saxman@46.114.132.248] has joined #debian
11:50-!-Saxman [~Saxman@46.114.132.248] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
11:50-!-Saxman [~Saxman@46.114.132.248] has joined #debian
11:50<c01d>mtn, thank you. I already often had a look into the arch-wiki. Anyway I am a little afraid of getting things wrong because in Debian maybe stuff gets handled differently.
11:51<mtn>c01d: the basic systemd commands will be the same. the big difference is that debian takes care of almost eveything for you, so you won't need to giving systemd any commands.
11:53-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:53-!-splen [~mark@93-39-236-1.ip78.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
11:55<c01d>mtn: ok, thank you. I'll move on with the archlinux-wiki for now. :-)
11:55<mtn>c01d: have fun
11:55-!-Ptah [~Ptah@0001f5d0.user.oftc.net] has quit []
11:55-!-aerostitch [~aerostitc@2601:9:4400:ddd:1935:50e5:3232:be13] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:57-!-toumb1a [~toumb1a@70.49.78.223] has joined #debian
11:57-!-awal [~Awal@198-48-201-109.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined #debian
11:59-!-khmm [~smuxi@91.194.188.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:59-!-JohnML [~JohnML@ip-109-90-185-0.hsi11.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian
12:00-!-huayra [~huayra__@78.156.13.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:00-!-ruben_varnish [~ruben@78.156.13.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:00-!-niftyburger [~niftyburg@191.101.71.219] has joined #debian
12:01-!-niftyburger [~niftyburg@191.101.71.219] has quit []
12:04-!-mtn [~mtn@dpc6744163217.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Off to greener pastures]
12:06-!-Jackson_waartaa [Alessandro@li126-95.members.linode.com] has joined #debian
12:06-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:07-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
12:10-!-cassidyslivers [~cassidysl@103.254.153.202] has joined #debian
12:14-!-Jackson_waartaa [Alessandro@li126-95.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:15-!-LocutusOfBorg1 [~Gianfranc@93-32-196-247.ip35.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:15-!-mkol_ssn [~mkol_ssn3@cpe-142-105-52-214.nj.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
12:15-!-trapier [~trapier@cpe-174-097-188-117.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
12:17-!-t0n11 [~tony@31.Red-79-156-22.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
12:17-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:17-!-FlowRiser [~FlowRiser@188.25.227.237] has joined #debian
12:18-!-gusnan [~gusnan@h201n7-lk-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:18-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
12:18-!-chomwitt [~chomwitt@ppp-94-64-22-73.home.otenet.gr] has joined #debian
12:18-!-aerostitch [~aerostitc@64.201.252.132] has joined #debian
12:21-!-t0n1 [~tony@127.Red-79-144-20.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:22-!-it [~it@89-74-205-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
12:22-!-Corey84 [~Corey84@wsip-98-191-213-227.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #debian
12:23-!-Corey84 is now known as Guest2719
12:24<c01d>It took me a while to figure out that systemadm (graphical UI for systemd) is in the package systemd-gui. apt-cache search systemadm did not deliver any results. Then I googled any found some bug-tracking-posts that gave me a relevant hint. How should I have done my search more effectively?
12:24<c01d>-y+d
12:24-!-fiasko_ [~thomas@dslb-188-103-149-135.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:25<dondelelcaro>c01d: apt-file search systemadm, or packages.debian.org
12:26<jordanm>you could file a wishlist bug to have that included in the description in some way
12:26<jordanm>might have value
12:26-!-bilbo [~quassel@146.185.137.224] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:27-!-it [~it@89-74-205-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit []
12:27<awal>c01d, aptitude search systemd will list a few packages including systemd-ui
12:27-!-mongoose [~mongoose@200.51.194.32] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:27-!-bilbo [~quassel@146.185.137.224] has joined #debian
12:30<c01d>jordanm, dondelelcaro, awal: Thank you! Is it more convenient to use aptitude instead of apt-get/apt-cache etc.? (Why? But maybe I should go to #noob for such questions?)
12:30<jordanm>c01d: aptitude has a better search interface, but it's dependency resolver isn't as good as apt's these days
12:31-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has joined #debian
12:31<jordanm>!tell c01d about why aptitude
12:31<jordanm>!tell c01d about why not aptitude
12:31<jordanm>!tell c01d about why not aptitude
12:31-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
12:32<awal>c01d, I find aptitude search packagename more interesting then apt-cache search packagename because aptitude only shows the most relevant packs and doesn't "spam" as apt
12:33<awal>apt-cache I use it for more extensive, detailed search
12:33-!-kraiskil [~kraiskil@a91-152-246-251.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
12:34<awal>c01d, you can try graphical packs such as synaptic or apper (if you use kde) too
12:36-!-krabador [~krabador_@95.238.177.135] has quit [Quit: Take the time. ]
12:36<awal>c01d, also, dpkg -l *systemd* is another interesting way
12:38-!-dennisg [~dennis@89.204.137.254] has joined #debian
12:39-!-lstanisic [~stanisic@winnetou.inrialpes.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:39-!-Human_G33k [~Human_G33@139.103.179.114] has quit [Quit: Quitte]
12:40-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out]
12:40-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:41<c01d>awal: Thank you for the information. I tried synaptic and aptitude once but I did not like any of them very much (don't know why). I look at https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting ATM and maybe I will send a wishlist bug as jordanm suggested. The dpkg-stuff is really interesting and looks more clear to me (ATM) than the apt-cache search results. Thank you!
12:42<c01d>jordanm, did you trigger a bot with the "!tell" command? For what reason?
12:42<jordanm>c01d: yes, it should have PMed you with more info on aptitude
12:43<c01d>jordanm, yeah, now I see (the window did not pop up at top level). Thank you!
12:43-!-Skald_9_ [~bert@2a02:1810:1a0b:e500:d17e:7920:2d5a:47c3] has quit [Quit: Ik sluit af.]
12:44-!-sakax [~sakax@sakax.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:46-!-t0n11 [~tony@31.Red-79-156-22.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
12:52<c01d>Just tried apt-file as dondelelcaro suggested. Drawback: builds up a relatively big cache. Anyway, nice results!
12:52<dondelelcaro>c01d: yeah, if you don't want the chacke, use packages.debian.org.
12:53-!-ximion [~ximion@p50922A54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
12:54-!-screenn [~screen@195.160.233.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:56-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:56-!-DarkUranium [~DarkUrani@cpe-77.38.77.88.cable.t-1.si] has joined #debian
12:57-!-DarkUranium [~DarkUrani@cpe-77.38.77.88.cable.t-1.si] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:58-!-Penguin [~Penguin@94.254.51.243] has joined #debian
12:58-!-bilbo [~quassel@146.185.137.224] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:58-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:58-!-Hariharan [~harihare@106.51.241.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:00-!-bilbo [~quassel@146.185.137.224] has joined #debian
13:01-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-223-76.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:02-!-iskatu [~iskatu@p2003006B0E505E20F86D7758A15F450F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:03-!-bilbo [~quassel@146.185.137.224] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:03-!-bilbo [~quassel@146.185.137.224] has joined #debian
13:04-!-krabador [~krabador_@host95-48-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
13:04-!-iskatu [~iskatu@p2003006B0E505E99151BA271E196B3AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
13:06-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:08-!-MsEvilEyes [~MsEvilEye@c-71-62-64-75.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #debian
13:08-!-Wildtux [~Wildtux@134.Red-79-158-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
13:08-!-MsEvilEyes [~MsEvilEye@c-71-62-64-75.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit []
13:09<c01d>dondelelcaro, thank you for the information. I will try that later.
13:09-!-Penguin [~Penguin@94.254.51.243] has left #debian [Leaving]
13:09-!-elfisio37_ [~MIGUEL@217.217.203.162.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
13:09-!-elfisio37_ [~MIGUEL@217.217.203.162.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:11-!-gomex_ [~gomex@200.128.60.12] has joined #debian
13:12-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
13:12-!-darkbasic_ [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:13-!-TomasCZ [~TomasCZ@yes.tenlab.net] has joined #debian
13:19<c01d>Is it a good idea to send bug reports via reportbug using the real name? What do you do? I would prefer my nickname.
13:20-!-devil [~devil@00012f05.user.oftc.net] has quit []
13:20-!-Q-Master^Work [~q-master@2.93.228.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:21-!-ompaul [~ompaul@000135c2.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:22-!-devil [~devil@00012f05.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:23-!-torcik [~torcik@89-74-79-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
13:24-!-torcik [~torcik@89-74-79-120.dynamic.chello.pl] has left #debian []
13:25-!-freex [~user@62-47-178-173.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:25-!-mamar [~mamar@2a01:e35:3992:fc30:218:f3ff:fed3:e09d] has joined #debian
13:27-!-shiftplusone [~shiftplus@217.33.127.174] has joined #debian
13:28-!-swirl [~swirl@host143-151-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: bye]
13:31-!-riksteri [~purple@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f96b-216.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:31-!-lostson [~lostson@cpe-107-10-110-2.new.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:31-!-Curny [~ww@p4FF01DA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
13:35-!-ink [~ink@72.4.30.243] has joined #debian
13:36-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:37<ink>hi, I am kinda new to this and want to install debian. I am downloading the three .iso's from debian.org When they are finished I was hopeing to put them on a flash drive and install that way.
13:37-!-wavekidsjp [~wavekidsj@h219-110-168-169.catv02.itscom.jp] has quit [Quit: bye..]
13:37<ink>Can I put all three .iso's on the flash drive and install that way or do I need to do something different?
13:38-!-kraiskil [~kraiskil@a91-152-246-251.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:43-!-Medvedka [~Andrei@cgn-pool-83-219-138-236.tis-dialog.ru] has joined #debian
13:43-!-Medvedka [~Andrei@cgn-pool-83-219-138-236.tis-dialog.ru] has quit []
13:44-!-grobda24 [~grobda24-@host86-172-218-53.range86-172.btcentralplus.com] has joined #debian
13:45-!-krabador [~krabador_@host95-48-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Take the time. ]
13:45-!-haris [~haris@31.176.220.171] has joined #debian
13:46-!-ALSRicardo [~ALSRicard@187.120.92.140] has joined #debian
13:46<haris>hy, is someone using twitter on debian 7.7.0
13:46-!-ALSRicardo [~ALSRicard@187.120.92.140] has quit []
13:47<c01d>ink, three isos? The three DVD-isos? If you use a flash drive (an usb-stick?) to install you should go with a live-image that can be put onto the flash drive, I guess (https://www.debian.org/CD/live/)? IMHO, I would burn the three images to DVD, as I don't have any idea on how to make a DVD-iso boot from a flash drive. But maybe others have an advice.
13:47-!-REalm [~realm@213.197.136.186] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:48<c01d>ink, and I am almost sure that you cannot put all the isos as ordinary files onto the flash drive and "run" them. :-)
13:48<ink>c01d: Yeah, the three DVD-isos. Man, I dont have any dvd's :/
13:48<ink>It can be done, I think.
13:49<awal>ink, for a standard and common debian/gnu packs you will only need the first cd/dv
13:49<ink>will that come with kde or gnome?
13:49<ink>(the first cd)
13:49<c01d>ink, both, afaik
13:49<ink>afaik?
13:50<c01d>as far as i know
13:50<ink>k
13:50<ink>thanks for yalls help.
13:50<ink>well, can I put the first .iso on the flash drive and and just reboot and install from the flash drive?
13:51<awal>ink https://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb yes you can choose (gnome, kde, xfce & lxde) during install
13:51<ink>yeah, I read that.
13:51<ink>no, never mind. No I didnt.
13:52<c01d>ink, are u under windows at the moment?
13:52<ink>c01d: yes
13:52<ink>Wanting to install linux for the first time and dual boot it with win:7
13:53-!-haris [~haris@31.176.220.171] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:53<c01d>ink, maybe this article can help: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/file-folder/fl/burn-iso-usb.htm ... do that with the first iso, reboot (and make sure your machine has the flash drive in the boot order) and you sould be fine
13:54-!-lucianangelus [lucianange@80.165.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has quit []
13:55<c01d>ink, but keep the following in mind: when it comes to the final step (writing of the boot loader stuff), remove your flash drive _before_ the bootloader gets written. (otherwise the bootloader maybe gets written to the flash drive .... I encountered that problem once)
13:55-!-RTDaemons [~cgerardin@static-176-183-184-187.ncc.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #debian
13:56-!-mitry__ [~mdou@p4FC552C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
13:56-!-john [~john@ool-44c15499.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
13:56-!-AndChat|637364 [~AndChat63@60-248-162-49.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
13:56-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@60-248-162-49.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:57-!-john [~john@ool-44c15499.dyn.optonline.net] has quit []
13:58<ink>c01d: thanks for the tip man
13:58<ink><3 you for anymore you may have.
13:58<ink>:P
14:00<c01d>ink, do you allow me an recommendation? Maybe you should give Virtual Box a try and "test" the installation procedure there. In Virtual Box you can "load" the iso directly and you can test everything without getting hit too hard by obstacles during the installation on your "real" machine.
14:00-!-marco_ [~smuxi@adsl-130-46.dsl.init7.net] has joined #debian
14:00-!-freedomrun [~quassel@cpe-31-15-133-198.cable.telemach.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:01<ink>thats a good idea
14:02-!-mitry_ [~mdou@p4FC54082.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:03-!-marco__ [~smuxi@adsl-130-46.dsl.init7.net] has joined #debian
14:05-!-mkol_ssn [~mkol_ssn3@cpe-142-105-52-214.nj.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:05-!-marco_ [~smuxi@adsl-130-46.dsl.init7.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:05-!-marco__ [~smuxi@adsl-130-46.dsl.init7.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:07<c01d>ink, http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.installation-steps.html ... when doing a dual-boot-installation make sure that you must not check "use entire disk" but "manual" (read on at least from 4.2.13)
14:08-!-cassidyslivers [~cassidysl@103.254.153.202] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:09-!-aiaco [~aiaco@62.18.95.158] has quit []
14:11-!-sc [~sc@2a02:8084:a000:1980:227:10ff:febd:4878] has joined #debian
14:12-!-hele_ [~hele@212-149-212-50.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
14:15-!-REalm [~REalm@213.197.136.186] has joined #debian
14:15-!-dennisg [~dennis@89.204.137.254] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
14:17-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has joined #debian
14:17-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:18-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
14:21-!-splen [~mark@93-39-236-1.ip78.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:25-!-adb [~IonMoldov@2a02:120b:2c0b:96c0:4c75:eff2:5cc0:57f2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:26-!-Slamd64 [~dino@31.47.17.95] has joined #debian
14:27-!-filchef [kvirc@89.253.182.239] has joined #debian
14:27-!-Wildtux_ [~Wildtux@248.Red-95-123-59.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
14:29-!-Wildtux_ [~Wildtux@248.Red-95-123-59.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit []
14:29-!-AndChat|637364 [~AndChat63@60-248-162-49.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:30-!-sr3l3 [~sr3l3@93-138-162-214.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
14:30-!-sinatributos [~s@118.60.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
14:31-!-sr3l3 [~sr3l3@93-138-162-214.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #debian []
14:31-!-Wildtux_ [~Wildtux@248.Red-95-123-59.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
14:33-!-Wildtux [~Wildtux@134.Red-79-158-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:35-!-ooki2day [~ooki2day@109.172.13.117] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:35-!-freedomrun [~quassel@86.61.9.5] has joined #debian
14:35-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@60-248-162-49.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
14:36-!-ooki2day [~ooki2day@109.172.13.117] has joined #debian
14:38-!-adb [~IonMoldov@2a02:120b:2c0b:96c0:455c:5bdb:db78:e1be] has joined #debian
14:38-!-geronimo [~geronimo@190.142.201.253] has joined #debian
14:39-!-geronimo [~geronimo@190.142.201.253] has quit []
14:39-!-ken [~ken@c-98-222-183-9.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #debian
14:40-!-zenga [~zenga@75-171-135-7.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #debian
14:40-!-ken [~ken@c-98-222-183-9.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #debian []
14:42-!-zenga [~zenga@75-171-135-7.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit []
14:44-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
14:44-!-kropotkin [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
14:44-!-davi [davi@wilbur.25thandclement.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:44<c01d>bye
14:44-!-c01d [~c01d@dslb-084-059-085-183.084.059.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:45-!-gomex_ [~gomex@200.128.60.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:45-!-tencendur [~rickbol@cpe-174-096-184-106.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
14:45-!-Wildtux_ [~Wildtux@248.Red-95-123-59.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:46-!-CutMeOwnThroat [~boo@2a02:8070:d1a6:4300:6e62:6dff:fe4d:5cef] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:50-!-RTDaemons [~cgerardin@static-176-183-184-187.ncc.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Bye]
14:50-!-screenn [~screen@37.229.24.90] has joined #debian
14:52-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:52-!-musixuser_ [~musixuser@90-64-13-103.dynamic.orange.sk] has joined #debian
14:53<musixuser_>Hello
14:53-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-223-76.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
14:53-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
14:54-!-michi21 [~michi@p5B07AFB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
14:56<musixuser_>Hello hOrses
14:56-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:56-!-jemadux [~jemadux@0001a5f7.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:56-!-mtn [~mtn@dpc6744163217.direcpc.com] has joined #debian
14:57-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
14:57<musixuser_>who listen to electronic music
14:58<musixuser_>am in this site first time
15:00<jordanm>!tell musixuser_ about offtopic
15:02-!-claykimber [~kimb0014@2607:ea00:101:3c49:eef4:bbff:fe41:6a67] has joined #debian
15:06-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:06-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:07-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
15:07-!-oufo_ [~ET@77.49.176.156.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:07-!-oufo_ [~ET@77.49.176.156.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has joined #debian
15:10-!-freedomrun [~quassel@86.61.9.5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:10-!-Saxman [~Saxman@46.114.132.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:14-!-t0n1 [~tony@31.Red-79-156-22.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
15:14-!-kropotkin [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
15:14-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Quit: Saindo]
15:16-!-mc___ [~work@d86-33-33-87.cust.tele2.at] has joined #debian
15:16-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:16-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
15:17<musixuser_>St Maria
15:18<musixuser_>Ave
15:20-!-aranax [~aranax@209.140.56.190.static.intelnet.net.gt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:20-!-aranax [~aranax@209.140.56.190.static.intelnet.net.gt] has joined #debian
15:21-!-wompa [~wompa@0001ac92.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:22-!-Saxman [~Saxman@141.99.226.99] has joined #debian
15:22-!-Saxman [~Saxman@141.99.226.99] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
15:25-!-grrrrrr [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
15:32-!-michi21 [~michi@p5B07AFB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:35-!-tetrapovicc [~trifyl@62.147.247.213] has joined #debian
15:36-!-xjuan [~xjuan@host168.190-227-46.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
15:36-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:37-!-ratcheer [~ratcheer@0001a5d7.user.oftc.net] has left #debian []
15:38-!-neo [~neo@130.160.98.64] has joined #debian
15:39-!-neo [~neo@130.160.98.64] has quit []
15:39-!-Saxman [~Saxman@141.99.226.99] has joined #debian
15:39-!-Saxman [~Saxman@141.99.226.99] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]
15:40-!-DarkUranium [~DarkUrani@cpe-77.38.77.88.cable.t-1.si] has joined #debian
15:40-!-Saxman [~Saxman@141.99.226.99] has joined #debian
15:40<musixuser_>Ludia Prdte a budete sa smiat
15:42-!-kmshanah [~kmshanah@ppp59-167-139-100.static.internode.on.net] has joined #debian
15:42<musixuser_>kto si uvalil poharom zavaranich olomovskych syrov
15:43<musixuser_>cely den vsety to je rozkaz **
15:43<musixuser_>;>
15:45-!-tetrapovicc [~trifyl@62.147.247.213] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:46-!-rscnt [~quassel@190.62.216.85] has joined #debian
15:47-!-bugtraq [~bugtraq@master.epscu.co.cu] has joined #debian
15:47-!-rscnt [~quassel@190.62.216.85] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:47-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@217.73.143.43] has joined #debian
15:48-!-bugtraq [~bugtraq@master.epscu.co.cu] has quit []
15:48-!-griffen [~oftc-webi@5DZAABD3K.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
15:49-!-toto42 [~toto@2a02:908:f324:7780:2c1:26ff:fe06:2bf2] has joined #debian
15:50-!-Curny [~ww@p4FF01DA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Byebye]
15:50-!-Riguel [~userdebkd@46.37.74.64] has joined #debian
15:50-!-grobda24 [~grobda24-@host86-172-218-53.range86-172.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:51-!-musixuser_ [~musixuser@90-64-13-103.dynamic.orange.sk] has left #debian [Leaving]
15:53-!-ompaul [~ompaul@000135c2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: and zebedee said its time for other stuff]
15:55-!-FlowRiser [~FlowRiser@188.25.227.237] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:56-!-corey84-- [~Corey84@wsip-98-191-213-226.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #debian
15:57-!-musixuser_ [~musixuser@90-64-13-103.dynamic.orange.sk] has joined #debian
15:57-!-[UP]Crystal [~crystal@nat3-minsk-pool-46-53-182-28.telecom.by] has joined #debian
15:57-!-captagon [~captagon@p5DC84CDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
15:59<musixuser_>tick
15:59<musixuser_>oh thank you for connect
16:00-!-FlowRiser [~FlowRiser@188.25.227.237] has joined #debian
16:01-!-FlowRiser [~FlowRiser@188.25.227.237] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:01-!-Monotoko [~admin@188.165.177.1] has joined #debian
16:02-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:02<Monotoko>is there any way to see what arguments were given when a source was compiled in the Debian packages?
16:02-!-tommie-lie [~thomas@dslb-188-097-127-222.188.097.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:03-!-Guest2719 [~Corey84@wsip-98-191-213-227.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:03-!-terrapin [~12@cpe-174-098-003-172.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
16:04-!-terrapin [~12@cpe-174-098-003-172.triad.res.rr.com] has quit []
16:04<petn-randall>Monotoko: You can download the source package via 'apt-get source <packagename>'. In debian/rules you'll see the commands executed to create the package.
16:04<Monotoko>thanks petn-randall
16:04<petn-randall>Monotoko: You're welcome!
16:04-!-Jane-PC [~Jane@37.72.205.35] has joined #debian
16:05<Monotoko>hm, probably shouldn't have done that on a prod box
16:06*Monotoko watches all the dev tools flood in
16:06<petn-randall>Monotoko: apt-get source shouldn't do that ... you sure you didn't accidently apt-get install something?
16:06<Monotoko>petn-randall: it told me I needed dpkg-dev
16:08-!-csotelo [~csotelo@190.41.210.210] has joined #debian
16:09*Monotoko sighs
16:09<Monotoko>who thought compiling NRPE without --enable-command-args
16:09<Monotoko>was a good idea
16:11-!-victorliferock [~vmartinez@190.144.115.34] has joined #debian
16:12-!-cewood [~cewood@202.10.91.226] has joined #debian
16:15-!-StathisA [~StathisA@athedsl-378035.home.otenet.gr] has joined #debian
16:15-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:16<Monotoko>petn-randall: is it possble to get the source for the testing branch without messing with my apt conf?
16:16<victorliferock>Good afternoon...
16:16<victorliferock>Someone can help me with a doubt about Schroot ?
16:16<petn-randall>Monotoko: You'll have to add a deb-src line for that, so no. But good thing is, it won't break you're system ;)
16:16<petn-randall>Monotoko: You can comment it out again after downloading the source package.
16:17<Monotoko>petn-randall: if I add it in, how do I tell it which package to get? (testing or stable)
16:17-!-rfreeman [~rfreeman@0001f8eb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:17<Monotoko>since it'll have both
16:18-!-mode/#debian [+l 697] by debhelper
16:18<petn-randall>Monotoko: You can control it via the '-t' option of apt-get. But I don't remember if it takes the highest version number, or is affected by pinning, etc.
16:18-!-arepo [~arepo@187.56.64.193] has joined #debian
16:19<Monotoko>petn-randall: Cool, thank you - you've been very helpful :)
16:19-!-arepo [~arepo@187.56.64.193] has quit []
16:20<petn-randall>Monotoko: You're welcome. Sharing is caring ;)
16:20<victorliferock>I am having a little trouble with schroot... When i install a program in the enviroment, this work fine and the service start ( Rabbitmq-server)
16:21<victorliferock>But when i close the enviroment, and later i open and start the service the group and user that the installation creates ago a moment dissapear... So the service can not start
16:21-!-adema_ [~adema@80.12.59.37] has joined #debian
16:24-!-cyd [~cyd@ipbcc140f2.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
16:24-!-biggun [~biggun@modemcable149.77-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian
16:26-!-biggun [~biggun@modemcable149.77-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit []
16:26-!-adb [~IonMoldov@2a02:120b:2c0b:96c0:455c:5bdb:db78:e1be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:26-!-iwalton4 [~iwalton3@d28-23-80-184.dim.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:28-!-dutchfish [~wil@000128c9.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:29-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@00014f22.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Unfortunately, the internet is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights.]
16:31-!-vlkm_ [~martin@84.244.108.17] has joined #debian
16:31-!-casper366 [~casper@chello080108247012.8.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:31-!-JohnML [~JohnML@ip-109-90-185-0.hsi11.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:33-!-vlkm_ [~martin@84.244.108.17] has quit []
16:33-!-vlkm [~martin@84.244.108.17] has joined #debian
16:34-!-iwalton3 [~iwalton3@d28-23-80-184.dim.wideopenwest.com] has joined #debian
16:34-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:35-!-job1 [~job@pool-108-35-115-102.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
16:35-!-adb [~IonMoldov@2a02:120b:2c0b:96c0:baac:6fff:fe67:305f] has joined #debian
16:35-!-Pixionus [~Pixionus@wsip-98-191-121-244.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:35-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
16:36-!-vlkm [~martin@84.244.108.17] has quit [Quit: vlkm]
16:37-!-eristisk [~eristisk@tor-exit.server6.tvdw.eu] has joined #debian
16:37-!-hele_ [~hele@212-149-212-50.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:37-!-oufo_ [~ET@77.49.176.156.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:37-!-feurd [~feurd@84-75-121-102.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #debian
16:37-!-rueh [~rueh@dynamic-205-239.catv.glattnet.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:38-!-vlkm [~martin@84.244.108.17] has joined #debian
16:39-!-kraiskil [~kraiskil@a91-152-246-251.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
16:39-!-FlowRiser [~FlowRiser@188.25.227.237] has joined #debian
16:39-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:39-!-vlkm [~martin@84.244.108.17] has left #debian []
16:40-!-Tuxist [~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-194-013.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:40-!-captagon [~captagon@p5DC84CDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
16:41-!-Jane_PC [~Jane@37.72.205.35] has joined #debian
16:41-!-corey84-- [~Corey84@wsip-98-191-213-226.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:41<feurd>Hello ! I just install Debian on my laptop but it failed to configure the network. During the installation, it said something about its incapacity to set DHCP stuff (sorry, I'm far from an expert...). My wired connection can't be established. How could I find out from where comes the problem?
16:41-!-rueh [~rueh@dynamic-205-239.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #debian
16:42<feurd>Of course, I tried to find a solution on the web, but nothing conclusive so far. All the explanations about network are a bit beyond my understanding.
16:42-!-mitry_ [~mdou@p4FC5442F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
16:43<mtn>feurd: are you installed now? are you using a desktop?
16:44<feurd>mtn, Yes, I speak to you with another computer. My laptop is beside me.
16:44<mtn>feurd: are you using gnome or similar on the laptop?
16:44<feurd>yes
16:44-!-xjuan [~xjuan@host168.190-227-46.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:44-!-mitry [~mdou@p5DCD7536.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
16:44<mtn>feurd: do you have a lan connection you can use?
16:45<feurd>mtn, lan = wired?
16:45<mtn>feurd: yep
16:45<feurd>mtn, My laptop is connected with a wire, but the connection doesn't work.
16:46<feurd>mtn, But I can't even know why.
16:46-!-cjm [~cjm@cpe-74-79-234-124.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
16:46<mtn>feurd: there should be a network icon on the panel, or look in the system settings
16:46-!-Jane-PC [~Jane@37.72.205.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:46-!-Slamd64 [~dino@31.47.17.95] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
16:47<feurd>mtn, I have the icon. If I click on 'connect to wired connection', it tries during a while, and then says it's impossible.
16:47<mtn>feurd: did you look into the settings? is it set up for dhcp?
16:47<feurd>mtn, Well, actually it says that the connection has been disconnected.
16:48<feurd>mtn, Unfortunately, I have no idea.
16:48<feurd>If I type ifconfig, I have eth0 details
16:48-!-sinatributos [~s@118.60.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:49-!-mitry__ [~mdou@p4FC552C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:50<feurd>but I think a line is missing : if I undersood properly, there sould be something like 'inet addr:192.168.0.X ...
16:50<feurd>but this line is not present
16:50-!-cyd [~cyd@ipbcc140f2.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:50<mtn>feurd: did you try to configure it from the command line?
16:50-!-musixuser_ [~musixuser@90-64-13-103.dynamic.orange.sk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:50<feurd>(sorry, I can't paste the result of the command, because I can't connect...)
16:51<feurd>mtn, I don't know how to do that...
16:51<mtn>feurd: so, is that a "no"?
16:51<feurd>mtn, Yes, it's a no
16:51-!-mitry_ [~mdou@p4FC5442F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:51<feurd>(but at least, I learnt how to use the terminal, that's a start... :) )
16:51<mtn>feurd: you mentioned using ifconfig, which is configuring it from the command line, so was wondering if you did anything elswe along those lines
16:51-!-kjo111113 [~kjo@c-76-19-65-80.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:52<feurd>mtn, No, I just tried a few recommandations I found online. But I didn't try to setup anything, because nothing looked similar to my problem.
16:53-!-xjuan [~xjuan@host43.186-124-1.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
16:53-!-Tr0il [~user@2-235-99-231.ip227.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
16:53<feurd>mtn, And I prefer to identify the origin of the problem before I modify the current settings.
16:53<feurd>mtn, I don't want to mess everything up.
16:54-!-lepalom [~quassel@81.184.215.10.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
16:54<Tr0il>sorry, can somebody help me?
16:54<mtn>feurd: go to network in system settings. go to details for your eth0
16:54-!-JanC [~janc@ip-81-11-194-222.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:55<mtn>!tell Tr0il about ask
16:55<feurd>mtn, I'm in.
16:55<mtn>feurd: look under ipv4
16:56-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:56-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:56<Tr0il>I can't connect to an irc server and I don't understand why
16:56-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:56<mtn>Tr0il: you are on one now ;)
16:56<Tr0il>I know
16:56<Tr0il>I'm not that stupid
16:57<feurd>mtn, It says Automatic (DHCP)
16:57<Tr0il>I don't understand why I can't connect to another one
16:57<mtn>feurd: is it marked "on"? dhcp? dns Automatic Route Automatic
16:57-!-cornerman is now known as Guest2743
16:57-!-cornerman [~cornerman@xdsl-78-34-108-173.netcologne.de] has joined #debian
16:57<ixi>if you showed us some real error messages (through a pastebin site like http://paste.debian.net) we might help you Tr0il
16:58-!-tuxampol [~Mylin@ppp-46-244-171-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
16:58<Tr0il>it simply says: connection aborted
16:58<Tr0il>nothing more than that
16:58<ixi>key word: real error messages
16:59-!-Ptah [~Ptah@0001f5d0.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:59<feurd>mtn, There's nothing more really. Everything below the first line (Automatic DHCP) is grey. The adresses, the DNS server,... I can't interact with anything.
16:59<Tr0il>what do you mean saying real error messages?
16:59<ixi>with your input to your irc client
16:59<Tr0il>I don't get what you mean, anyway thanks for your help
17:00<mtn>feurd: not sure what could be wrong. it shouldn't look like that. paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to http://paste.debian.net and give us the link.
17:00<Tr0il>it's irc.tiscali.it
17:00<Tr0il>with xchat and windows I can connect to that server, with debian and xchat I can't
17:01<feurd>mtn, Well, I can't paste anything anywhere because I can't connect to the internet. But I will type it manually.
17:01<mtn>feurd: that will work ;)
17:02<feurd>Oh ok it's easy, my file has only two lines : 'auto lo' and 'iface lo inet loopback'
17:02<mtn>feurd: ok. you can try using the command line, but networkmanager should be working. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
17:03<mtn>feurd: how did you make your install media?
17:03<feurd>I downloaded from the official depository, and put it on a USB stick
17:03-!-JanC [~janc@ip-81-11-178-165.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #debian
17:04<DNS>Tr0il: you tried others client as well?
17:04<mtn>feurd: how did you put in on the usb?
17:04-!-caravel [~caravel@ANancy-553-1-158-151.w109-221.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
17:04<DNS>*clints
17:04<mtn>feurd: and which version of debian?
17:04-!-Guest2743 [~cornerman@xdsl-78-34-105-169.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:04<DNS>damnit, anyways u know what i mean
17:04-!-ooki2day [~ooki2day@109.172.13.117] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:04<DNS>>_>
17:04<feurd>mtn, Sorry but I already found the link you gave me, but I found it confusing. I don't understand most of the content presented. I don't know what to do with all that.
17:05-!-FlowRiser [~FlowRiser@188.25.227.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:05<feurd>Mhmmm, 7.6 I think
17:05<mtn>feurd: ok, how about my last two questions?
17:05<mtn>feurd: did you use unetbootin?
17:05-!-filchef [kvirc@89.253.182.239] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/]
17:06<feurd>mtn, Mhmm I'm afraid I don't remember :|
17:06-!-Tr0il0 [~user@2-235-99-231.ip227.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
17:06<feurd>mtn, I might have done the USB stick from a Windows environment.
17:06<mtn>feurd: it might be best to start over: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en
17:06<Tr0il0>hello, could you please check if irc.tiscali.it works with debian wheezy?
17:07<Tr0il0>I'm using xchat
17:07<mtn>feurd: and don't use unetbootin
17:07<feurd>mtn, Yes, that could be a good option indeed.
17:07<Tr0il0>i use dd to burn an iso image on a cd or usb stick
17:08-!-mode/#debian [+l 691] by debhelper
17:08<mtn>Tr0il0: with debian, cp is even easier!
17:08<Tr0il0>does cp work with iso images too?
17:08-!-darokthar [~darokthar@f053146213.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
17:08<mtn>Tr0il0: it does with debian iso images
17:08-!-issam [~issam@105.153.14.89] has joined #debian
17:08<Tr0il0>but not with other iso's?
17:08<mtn>Tr0il0: beats me
17:09-!-ooki2day [~ooki2day@109.172.13.117] has joined #debian
17:09<Tr0il0>I'm not a native speaker, what do you mean saying beats me?
17:09-!-Tr0il [~user@2-235-99-231.ip227.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:09<mtn>Tr0il0: means I don't know
17:09<Tr0il0>ah ok
17:09-!-mtn [~mtn@dpc6744163217.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Off to greener pastures]
17:11<Tr0il0>with Windows I use passcabe iso burner to burn isos
17:11<Tr0il0>*passcape
17:11<Tr0il0>it's freeware standalone and it works
17:12-!-Tr0il0 [~user@2-235-99-231.ip227.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via]
17:13-!-caravel [~caravel@ANancy-553-1-158-151.w109-221.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:14-!-rueh [~rueh@dynamic-205-239.catv.glattnet.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:14-!-jerryhackerdu75 [~jerryhack@2a02:1205:506d:c9a0:486f:fd80:6ef6:f31c] has joined #debian
17:15<jerryhackerdu75>comment on installe openssh?
17:15-!-jerryhackerdu75 [~jerryhack@2a02:1205:506d:c9a0:486f:fd80:6ef6:f31c] has quit []
17:16-!-huayra [~huayra__@78.156.13.108] has joined #debian
17:16-!-ruben_varnish [~ruben@78.156.13.108] has joined #debian
17:16-!-quenouille [~quenouill@gbl57-1-78-228-29-98.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:19-!-dutchfish [~wil@000128c9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Splash, leaving the bowl]
17:20<Monotoko>petn-randall: Are you a dev?
17:20<Monotoko>a
17:20<Monotoko>oops
17:23-!-victorliferock [~vmartinez@190.144.115.34] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
17:26-!-issam [~issam@105.153.14.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:26-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:26-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
17:26-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:28-!-ultra [~ultra___@ip-83-101-78-204.customer.schedom-europe.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:28-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:29-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
17:30-!-corey84-- [~Corey84@wsip-98-191-213-227.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #debian
17:30-!-alvarezp [~alvarezp@2806:220:2:4:814f:e843:f3a3:d4e1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:32-!-tommie-lie [~thomas@dslb-188-097-127-222.188.097.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #debian
17:34-!-sinatributos [~s@118.60.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
17:35-!-towo` [~towo@ipb2191d47.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:37-!-REalm [~REalm@213.197.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:39-!-alvarezp [~alvarezp@2806:220:2:4:4831:923c:445d:9779] has joined #debian
17:42-!-xjuan [~xjuan@host43.186-124-1.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:44-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:44-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:44-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:44-!-victorliferock [~vmartinez@190.144.115.34] has joined #debian
17:45-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
17:46-!-mamar [~mamar@2a01:e35:3992:fc30:218:f3ff:fed3:e09d] has quit []
17:47-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:48-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:48-!-Tuxist [~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-194-013.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #debian
17:52-!-StathisA [~StathisA@athedsl-378035.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:53-!-faw [~Felipe@faw.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:53-!-pamaury [~quassel@AClermont-Ferrand-652-1-135-89.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:54-!-baumas [~baumas@2601:2:5b00:8a3:7ec3:a1ff:fea2:76cc] has joined #debian
17:56-!-kjo111113 [~kjo@c-76-19-65-80.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #debian
17:56-!-adema_ [~adema@80.12.59.37] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:00-!-ximion1 [~ximion@p50922A54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
18:00-!-Gaius [~gaius@110-174-77-100.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #debian
18:00-!-ribe_ [~ribe@2001:470:deb8:162:1dc6:69e0:f6:55e1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:01<Gaius>hello
18:01-!-Gaius [~gaius@110-174-77-100.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit []
18:01-!-fiasko [~thomas@dslb-188-103-149-135.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #debian
18:02-!-reazem [~reazem@2607:fad8:4:6:2ab2:bdff:fe53:b330] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:02-!-broucarie [~bastien@ARennes-658-1-223-76.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:02-!-claykimber [~kimb0014@2607:ea00:101:3c49:eef4:bbff:fe41:6a67] has left #debian []
18:03-!-Kim [~kimjongfu@110-174-77-100.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #debian
18:04-!-_ixti_ [~ixti@188.119.233.1] has joined #debian
18:04-!-Kim [~kimjongfu@110-174-77-100.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit []
18:05-!-Kim_Jong-fun [~kimjongfu@110-174-77-100.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #debian
18:05-!-ximion [~ximion@p50922A54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:06<Kim_Jong-fun>Hello?
18:06-!-lostatwork [~lostatwor@cpe-65-25-225-5.new.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:06-!-blumoon [~blumoon@104.156.240.154] has joined #debian
18:07<feurd>I'm preparing a USB stick to reinstall Debian properly. But I wonder if it's possible to put several DVD Iso on the same stick. I know how to put the first on, but on the webpage they encourage to delete everything before putting the iso. Can I simply put the several ISO on it without worry?
18:08-!-ixti [~ixti@188.119.233.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:08<Kim_Jong-fun>You can probably use a different partition for each ISO.
18:09<feurd>Kim_Jong-fun, So I should format an create partitions on my stick before putting the files on it?
18:09<Kim_Jong-fun>No sure, never done it before.
18:10-!-adema [~adema@80.12.59.37] has joined #debian
18:10<Kim_Jong-fun>This might help. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
18:10-!-papamoose [~kauffman@hester.cs.uchicago.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:11-!-haziz [~haziz@c-76-127-224-221.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #debian
18:12-!-haziz [~haziz@c-76-127-224-221.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #debian []
18:12<feurd>Well, it seems to be for different OS. In my case, it is for the same installation (Debian 7.7), but it requires (or at least suggests) several DVDs.
18:13-!-bcnjr5 [~bcnjr5@adsl-074-166-205-113.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #debian
18:14-!-victorliferock [~vmartinez@190.144.115.34] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:14<Kim_Jong-fun>Why does it need several DVDs?
18:16-!-valvalion [~valvalion@91.179.2.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:16-!-REalm [~REalm@213.197.136.186] has joined #debian
18:16-!-corey84-- [~Corey84@wsip-98-191-213-227.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:17-!-jemadux [~jemadux@0001a5f7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:17-!-danlinux [~danlinux@cpc66048-cove12-2-0-cust134.3-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #debian
18:17-!-danlinux [~danlinux@cpc66048-cove12-2-0-cust134.3-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit []
18:18-!-mode/#debian [+l 684] by debhelper
18:20-!-lilu [~daniel@p5DCE201A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
18:20-!-lilu [~daniel@p5DCE201A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #debian []
18:21-!-Kim_Jong-fun [~kimjongfu@110-174-77-100.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #debian [Leaving]
18:21-!-t0n1 [~tony@31.Red-79-156-22.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #debian []
18:21<feurd>Kim_Jong-fun, I have absolutely no idea. I just see there are like 7 Debian DVDs for installation. No idea what they stand for.
18:22-!-stooj [~stooj@220-244-219-21.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:23-!-stooj [~stooj@220-244-219-21.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #debian
18:23-!-bcnjr5 [~bcnjr5@adsl-074-166-205-113.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:23-!-bcnjr5 [~bcnjr5@adsl-074-166-205-113.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #debian
18:24<Ptah>the first dvd contains the default install and most of the more used packages and libs . The rest of the disks contain the other packages in the repositories as far as I know
18:24-!-paxmark9 [~paxtormar@50.72.94.240] has joined #debian
18:25<Ptah>discs*
18:26-!-Ptah [~Ptah@0001f5d0.user.oftc.net] has quit []
18:27<feurd>Ptah, So I dont really need other than the first on?
18:27<feurd>*one
18:29-!-speters [~sean@CPE-65-30-193-138.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
18:30-!-faw [~Felipe@faw.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:30-!-gry [~noone@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe89:8366] has joined #debian
18:34-!-rfreeman [~rfreeman@0001f8eb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:35-!-AndChat|637364 [~AndChat63@42-71-243-242.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
18:35-!-melmothX_ [~melmoth@141-136-140-85.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #debian
18:37-!-vrkalak [~vrkalak@m855336d0.tmodns.net] has joined #debian
18:37-!-robert [~robert@99-65-201-244.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
18:38-!-screenn [~screen@37.229.24.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:39-!-robert [~robert@99-65-201-244.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net] has quit []
18:40-!-mc___ [~work@d86-33-33-87.cust.tele2.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:41-!-faw [~Felipe@faw.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
18:41<uso>feurd: for a standard installation the first DVD is enough (often even the first CD only), when you need some special software later you always can install it from the network (when your network connection is fixed)
18:42-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@60-248-162-49.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:43-!-ToApolytoXaos [~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:43-!-melmothX [~melmoth@9-182.dsl.iskon.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:45-!-Dancus [~dancus@dynamic-adsl-94-34-181-43.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #debian
18:48-!-REalm [~REalm@213.197.136.186] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:48<feurd>uso, Ok thanks. In which format should I reset my usb key for a bootable stick?=
18:50-!-jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:52-!-jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has joined #debian
18:55-!-screenn [~screen@37.229.24.90] has joined #debian
18:56-!-kraiskil [~kraiskil@a91-152-246-251.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:58<uso>feurd: you don't need to format it, just write the iso image to the stick
18:58-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:58<uso>follow the link mtn gave you or if you are on windows look what the bot will send you
18:59<uso>dpkg: tell feurd about usbboot
18:59<feurd>uso, Ok. Well.... I did anyway (before I saw your comment). And I think I screwed up.....
18:59-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
18:59<feurd>I don't understand how disks work on linux...
18:59<feurd>I use gparted, and I try to format my usb stick properly. But I can't anymore.
18:59<feurd>Everytime I try, there's a problem.
19:00<feurd>I saw that it needs to be unmounted to be formatted.
19:00<feurd>But if I unmount it, it disapear from gparted.
19:00<uso>disks can be accessed like file (so always double check when you enter file names for disks like /dev/sdX if it's the correct one)
19:01-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:01<uso>you don't need gparted at all to create a boot stick
19:01<feurd>So I plug it out and in again, I format it, it seems to work (no error message), but at the end, it doesnt recognize the partition.
19:02<uso>feurd: you are on a linux or on a windows system?
19:02<feurd>On linux (ubuntu)
19:02<uso>(where you want to prepare the sitck)
19:03<uso>ok, insert the stick and check the system log what device got added to the system
19:03<uso>it's essential that you identify the device correctly, if in doubt just remove and re-add the stick to be sure it's the correct device
19:04-!-roniz [~roniz@host86-155-118-80.range86-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:06-!-screenn [~screen@37.229.24.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:06-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:06<feurd>Yep ok. So it appears under /media/feurd/USB, but also under /dev/sde1
19:06<feurd>And I don't really understand the difference between these two things
19:06-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
19:06<feurd>"don't really understand", what a nice euphemism... :)
19:06-!-kjo111113 [~kjo@c-76-19-65-80.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:07<uso>feurd: the /dev/sdX is the device, /dev/sde1 is a partition on the stick, /dev/sde (without the "1") is the whole stick
19:07<gry>feurd: /dev/sde1 is not a directory that contains the files. It is a block device. The "/media/feurd/USB" directory is there because the OS mounted the first partition (sde1) for you automatically.
19:08-!-mode/#debian [+l 677] by debhelper
19:08<uso>feurd: this device disappears when you remove the stick? (just to be sure, if we overwrite the wrong device your ubuntu installation is gone)
19:09-!-ebru [~ebru@78.185.20.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:10<uso>feurd: the /media/feurd/USB is just an automatism which tries to mount the content of the USB stick, but to prepare a boot stick that doesn't matter
19:10<feurd>Ok, so let's do this carefully :) But to be sure I understood : /dev/sde (or sd whatever) is where the external device is plugged in. And the OS sees it's a storage thing, so it mounts it in order to give me the possibility to write on it. And that's what it appears also under /media/... right?
19:11<uso>feurd: yes
19:11<feurd>Ok good. One thing clearer.
19:12<uso>actually it would be best if you could unmount the stick under /media
19:12-!-Brigo [~Brigo@199.Red-88-21-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:12<uso>but that depends on your desktop environment, I don't know if you have a menu option to do so
19:13<feurd>I unplugged the stick, and typed 'ls | grep sde' and it shows me that theres a 'sde1' but no 'sde'
19:13<feurd>(under /dev/ of course)
19:14<uso>strange, sde1 also should be gone, but maybe it stays there when you don't unmount the stick before
19:14<feurd>If I plug it back, both are there
19:14-!-Dancus [~dancus@dynamic-adsl-94-34-181-43.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
19:15-!-lepalom [~quassel@81.184.215.10.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:16<uso>feurd: have you checked if there's any option in your desktop environment to safely disconnect a USB device?
19:16<feurd>Yes there is. Well, under the file browser (Nautilus?), I have a small arrow beside the stick. It seems to serve to unmount it.
19:17<uso>feurd: ok, then unmount it
19:17<uso>but not unplug the stick
19:18-!-rueh [~rueh@dynamic-205-239.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #debian
19:18-!-txomon|home [~txomon@219.82-130-138.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:18<feurd>Oh God... But when I plug it in, it appears 3 times under nautilus. One is the standard one that I can simply unmount, and the two others have a generic name, and I can unmount in only with the admin password.
19:19<uso>hmm, I know why I dislike these automatisms :)
19:20<uso>is the /media/feurd/USB directory gone after unmounting it?
19:20<feurd>Ok, no panic..... At least it seems clear that it is 'registered' under sde. How can I kill this evil thing and transform it into a nice little USB stick ?
19:21<uso>feurd: I don't know, but if in doubt we can try to ignore it
19:21<feurd>uso, Yes it is.
19:21<uso>worst thing which can happen is that the boot from the stick will not work
19:22<uso>ok, then we can try to copy the image to the stick
19:22<uso>you need a root shell or use sudo
19:22<feurd>uso, But... shouldn't I format it? It seems to have a weird behavior...
19:22<feurd>I don't trust it :)
19:22<uso>no, forget the format, the image will be written in raw format to the stick
19:23<feurd>Ok. I might not trust it, but I trust you :)
19:23<feurd>so a simple cp ISO will work?
19:23<uso>you only need to trust that you have found the correct device
19:23<uso>yes, exactly
19:24<uso>cp debian-installer.iso /dev/sde
19:24<uso>that will do the job
19:24<feurd>I will be quickly fixed. My usb stick have leds that indicate when one write on it.
19:24<uso>just double check for typos before hitting enter :)
19:24<uso>do a sync command after the cp has finished
19:25<feurd>Sorry, I'm not a native english speaker :)
19:25<uso>then wait until the LED stops flickering
19:25<feurd>May I ask what the 'sync' command does?
19:25<uso>enter "sync" as command after the cp has finished
19:26<uso>it synchronizes devices
19:26<uso>(flushes kernel buffer content to the media)
19:26<feurd>Oh, it's 'cp ISO /dev/sde', not sde1?
19:26<uso>yes, sde, we overwrite the complete stick
19:26<feurd>ok
19:26<uso>that's why we do not need to partition it
19:27-!-awal [~Awal@198-48-201-109.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
19:27<feurd>Ok, I get it now. All of these tears for nothing... :)
19:27-!-awal [~Awal@198-48-201-109.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined #debian
19:28<uso>it's often simple as soon as you understand how it works :)
19:28-!-awal [~Awal@198-48-201-109.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit []
19:28<uso>but I know, that device handling is hard to understand
19:28-!-bcnjr5 [~bcnjr5@adsl-074-166-205-113.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
19:29<uso>*the first time you use it
19:29-!-jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:30<uso>just be very careful when you work with devices, one wrong letter can kill your whole system partition or your home directories
19:30<feurd>Yeah clearly. But I don't want to 'just' do things. I try to understand what's happening. And as you say, this device thing is really puzzeling. But I guess under alternative OSs, it works the same, it's just hidden. I'm glad I can finally understand how it works more deeply.
19:30-!-kraiskil [~kraiskil@a91-152-246-251.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
19:31<feurd>uso, stop frightening me more than I am already!!! :)
19:31-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:31<uso>feurd: that's good :) beeing curious how your system works is always good, and of course
19:31<feurd>(the leds are dancing, it's a good sign)
19:32<uso>*understanding the commands someone tells you to enter, especially as root, is also good :)
19:33-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:34<feurd>uso, That's it. I came to GNU/Linux to take control of my computer. But the learning curve is huge
19:35-!-kraiskil [~kraiskil@a91-152-246-251.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:35-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
19:36<feurd>A question : why do I have to unmount my stick before the copy?
19:36<uso>feurd: I luckily had the chance to learn how the core linux system works before it got a graphical login, things are much more complicated today and harder to understand
19:37<uso>feurd: that just was a safety measure that the mounted partition does not interfere with the copy you run now
19:37-!-ratcheer [~ratcheer@0001a5d7.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:38-!-mode/#debian [+l 670] by debhelper
19:38<uso>in the worst case it could have overwritten parts of your copied image with the sync command
19:40-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:40<uso>feurd: you could try out LFS (linux from scratch) or maybe slackware to study how linux works, these are more basic distributions with a lot less of automatisms
19:41-!-corey84-- [~Corey84@wsip-98-191-213-227.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #debian
19:41<feurd>Yeah I guess it's easier to learn step by step than everything at the same time. Everytime I try to resolve a question, it raises 20 others that need to be answered before... :)
19:41<uso>a debian installation without GUI (e.g. in a VM) also could help
19:41-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
19:41<feurd>uso, I plan to install Arch Linux on a random computer, precisely to learn. Would you recommand it?
19:42-!-Tuxist [~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-194-013.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:43<feurd>(the stick is ready. Can I remove it just like that?)
19:43<uso>it's a bit less automated than debian, so a bit better to understand, but it's also a "full" (desktop) distribution, so maybe not the ideal learning system
19:43<uso>run a sync command before removing it
19:43<feurd>oh yeah right!
19:43-!-ao2 [~ao2@2001:1418:117::1] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
19:44-!-csotelo [~csotelo@190.41.210.210] has quit [Quit: Saliendo]
19:44<uso>(it should be ok without that if you wait long enough, but just to be sure)
19:45<feurd>Ok, it boots. Let's hope my network will work on this new installation...
19:46<uso>well, I would have tried to fix the network without reinstallation, but I was too late for that
19:47<uso>feurd: just to double check, what image did you write to the stick?
19:47-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:48-!-jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has joined #debian
19:48-!-vrkalak [~vrkalak@m855336d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:48-!-AndChat|637364 [~AndChat63@42-71-243-242.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:48-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
19:49<feurd>Nope, you will be of some help, because it still doesn't work :) During the installation process (I'm in right now) it says that the automatic configuration of the network failed. It says that the DHCP protocol is apparently not in use (I'm wired).
19:49<feurd>So I will cancel the process of reinstallation (it's apparently useless), lauch debian, and check with you, if you agree, what is wrong.
19:49<feurd>I installed Debian 7.7
19:50<uso>and you are sure your dhcp server works? :)
19:50<feurd>debian 7.7 amd64 to be more precise :)
19:50<feurd>uso, given the fact that I don't know what a dhcp server is, I have no idea :)
19:50<uso>feurd: that's ok, an installer image, not a live cd, right?
19:51<feurd>uso, Mhmm I guess. The name is debian-7.7.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso. I know nothing more.
19:52<uso>feurd: oh oh :), so how does your network work ... do you have other computers on the same wired network?
19:52<feurd>It comes from here : http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
19:52<uso>the image sounds good
19:52<feurd>Yes I have.
19:53<feurd>Connected to a router (?), itself connected to a hole in the wall :)
19:53<uso>how do they get their IP addresses? automatic or manually configured?
19:53-!-tommie-lie [~thomas@dslb-188-097-127-222.188.097.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
19:54<feurd>I'm pretty sure it's automatic.
19:54<feurd>I never had to deal with IP addresses before.
19:54<uso>ok, so probably DHCP (dynamic host configuration protocol)
19:54-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has joined #debian
19:55<uso>your previous debian installation is still running?
19:55<feurd>In a second
19:56-!-cjm [~cjm@cpe-74-79-234-124.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
19:57<feurd>I'm in. Still no network.
19:57<feurd>It tries to connect, but fails, and don't bother to say why. How rude!
19:58-!-adb [~IonMoldov@2a02:120b:2c0b:96c0:baac:6fff:fe67:305f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:58<uso>what's "it"? what tries to connect?
19:59<uso>do you have network manager installed?
19:59<feurd>I would say my computer, but I'm pretty sure it's too vague.
19:59<uso>indeed :)
19:59<feurd>I see it from the icon top right (I'm under gnome). So I think it's the network manager
20:00-!-fstd [~fstd@xdsl-78-35-81-86.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:00<uso>ok, I have no such installation here, so I have to guess a bit
20:00<uso>can you somehow stop the network manager form gnome?
20:00<feurd>I can install an other desktop if you prefer. I don't really like gnome
20:00<uso>otherwise we try to stop it from the shell
20:00-!-fstd [~fstd@xdsl-87-78-230-72.netcologne.de] has joined #debian
20:01<feurd>Oh... wait... no I can't, I have no internet connection :)
20:01<feurd>yeah, I like working with the shell!
20:01<uso>it doesn't matter which desktop you have now, you always can change that later
20:01-!-jemadux [~jemadux@0001a5f7.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
20:01<uso>we just try to make sure that nothing interferes with out tests
20:01<uso>*our
20:02<feurd>(and my trackpad is not working properly. So the less I use it, the better...)
20:02<feurd>I'm under your command!
20:03-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-66-104-77.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
20:03<uso>ok, check if you have a file /etc/init.d/network-manager
20:03-!-pulse01 [~pulse01@79.103.83.31.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has joined #debian
20:03<feurd>I do.
20:04<uso>ok, then stop the network manager with: /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
20:04<uso>your network device is eth)?
20:04<uso>*eth0
20:04<feurd>Mhmm... It said 'network manager already stopped'...
20:05<feurd>So where does the connection attemps come from? Do I have a haunted computer??
20:05<uso>hmm, not sure in what state your system was before, maybe just try to start it and check if it get's a connection
20:06<feurd>It's a brand new fresh debian installation. I did absolutely nothing.
20:06<uso>feurd: it's just a try. otherwise we continue on the command line
20:06-!-rueh [~rueh@dynamic-205-239.catv.glattnet.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:06<uso>ok, so same command as before, only with start
20:07<uso>/etc/init.d/network-manager start
20:08<feurd>Ok, it responds properly. Do I stop it?
20:08<feurd>and yes, I'm under eth0
20:08-!-adema [~adema@80.12.59.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:08<uso>no, maybe you also need to give it a kick from the GUI menu
20:08<feurd>Ok, I started it again, but it still fails to connect
20:09<uso>good, means not good :), stop it again
20:09<feurd>Ok, it's off
20:10<uso>switch the interface off and on:
20:10<uso>ifconfig eth0 down
20:10<uso>ifconfig eth0 up
20:10<uso>(as far as I remember), does it work?
20:11<uso>I mean does it accept the commands with no errors?
20:11-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
20:11<feurd>One maybe usefull information : when I type 'ifconfig', a line is missing : I should (I think) have under eth0 a line (the second one) which says inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 or something similar. But it doesn't appear for me.
20:11-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
20:11<uso>feurd: yes, that comes later
20:13<feurd>Oh oh... Sorry... I thought I had a eth0 entry (I had it the last time) but it is gone now...
20:13<feurd>I only have the lo entry
20:13<uso>that's bad, no interface, no network ;)
20:13<feurd>Ah I have it back if I start the network manager
20:14<uso>hmm, the interface should be there without the network manager
20:15<uso>could you da a lspci and chaeck for a line with the network adapter?
20:15<uso>or: lspci|grep -i network
20:16*maxb finds 'ifconfig' confusing and awkward to work with. The new 'ip' command is much nicer ('ip addr show', 'ip link show', etc.)
20:16<feurd>It give 'Network controller : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device b723
20:16<uso>sounds like there's a hardware :)
20:16<feurd>That's a start :)
20:16<uso>ok, good idea from maxb, try: ip a s
20:17-!-AzaToth [~azatoth@h87-96-232-177.dynamic.se.alltele.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:17<uso>(or if you have fun typing use the long version above)
20:17<feurd>Ok, I did. I have a bunch of obscure lines...
20:17<uso>feurd: is there an eth0?
20:17<feurd>yes
20:17-!-alfix [~alfonso@host113-28-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
20:18<uso>did you stop the network manager again?
20:18-!-pulse01 [~pulse01@79.103.83.31.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:18<feurd>but please don't ask me to type what it says :)
20:18<uso>if not, do so and check again for the interface with ip a s
20:18<feurd>I still have a eth0 with the NM off.
20:18<uso>good :)
20:19<uso>now check that eth0 line, there should be a state ON or OFF in it
20:20<feurd>there's a 'state DOWN'
20:20<uso>oops, UP or DONW should that be
20:20<uso>right
20:20-!-fsteinel is now known as Guest2753
20:20-!-fsteinel [~fsteinel@00017be8.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
20:21<uso>try: ip link eth0 up
20:21<maxb>That's 'ip link set eth0 up'
20:22<uso>maxb: thanks, feurd: listen to him :)
20:22-!-fiatlux [~fiatlux_@cpe-76-176-2-210.san.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:22<maxb>Of course setting the link up isn't going to help without something to assign an address to it
20:22<uso>that comes next
20:22<uso>(not sure if the up is necessary)
20:22<feurd>Ok, it worked.
20:23<uso>checked with ip a s?
20:23<uso>so the state is up now?
20:23<feurd>Yes!
20:23<uso>good
20:23<uso>now check if you have a dhclient programm
20:23<uso>try: dhc:TAB:
20:24<uso>dhc<TAB>
20:24<feurd>mhmm I have to type 'dhc' and then press the TAB key? It doesn't do anything
20:24-!-irl [~irl@lepton.shiftout.net] has left #debian [WeeChat 1.0.1]
20:25<uso>oh
20:25<uso>check: dpkg --get-selections|grep -i dhc
20:25<uso>what dhcp client does wheezy install by default?
20:26<feurd>The dkpg command can't be found '-_-
20:26<maxb> /sbin/dhclient from package isc-dhcp-client
20:26-!-infinity0_ [~infinity0@e181243132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
20:26-!-infinity0 is now known as Guest2755
20:26-!-infinity0_ is now known as infinity0
20:26<uso>did you type it that way? dpkg ;)
20:27-!-claykimber1 [~clay@2601:2:5880:424:5604:a6ff:fe26:1621] has joined #debian
20:27-!-Guest2753 [~fsteinel@00017be8.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:27<feurd>haha, nope :)
20:27<feurd>oh shit
20:27<uso>means? :)
20:28<feurd>I did type it wrong... :)
20:29<uso>feurd: does the command list anything when typed correctly?
20:29<feurd>Ok so it gives me isc -dhcp-client install and isc-dhcp-common install
20:30<uso>ok, look if you have a file /sbin/dhclient
20:30-!-Guest2755 [~infinity0@0001b9ba.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:30<feurd>I have
20:31<uso>then we try to run it manually
20:31<uso>/sbin/dhclient -d -v eth0
20:31-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
20:31<feurd>Oh ok. Because it has all kind of funny caracters inside it...
20:31<uso>not open it! :)
20:31<uso>it's a binary
20:32<uso>and make sure not save it on exit in case you have opened with an editor :)
20:32<feurd>Oh ok. So I launched it.
20:32<uso>with the flags I gave you above?
20:32<feurd>It.... does things...
20:32<uso>yes, now you need to type that to a paste :)
20:33-!-lostson [~lostson@cpe-107-10-110-2.new.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
20:33<uso>or try to find some relevent lines yourself :)
20:33<feurd>DHCPDISCOVER on etho to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval X (number changing every line)
20:33<uso>does it get an answer?
20:33<uso>something like DHCPSERVER
20:34<feurd>No DHCPOFFERS received. I guess it means 'no'.
20:34<uso>there's your problem, your DHCP server does not work
20:34<feurd>No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
20:34<uso>at least no DHCP server is answering
20:34-!-c2main [~wrong@AToulouse-657-1-1024-24.w90-45.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:35<feurd>Don't tell me I just have to switch my router off and on again to make things right....
20:35<feurd>All these episodes of IT Crowd for nothing.....
20:35<uso>that's at least a try :)
20:35<uso>no, not for nothing, you hopefully learned a bit
20:36<feurd>Ok. I'll try. So I come back in a minute :)
20:36<uso>(but right, I could had have the idea to reset the router a bit earlier)
20:37-!-aranax [~aranax@209.140.56.190.static.intelnet.net.gt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:38-!-ximion_ [~ximion@p50922ABD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
20:40-!-mentor [~mentor@00010c5b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
20:40-!-^A^ [~quassel@180.173.59.0] has joined #debian
20:42-!-feurd_ [~feurd@84-75-121-102.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #debian
20:42-!-luminiferousstars [~luminifer@186.138.85.30] has joined #debian
20:42<feurd_>feurd back online !
20:42-!-m_pahlevanzadeh1 [~mohsen@188.245.48.172] has joined #debian
20:43<feurd_>But it didn't fix the laptop problem
20:43<uso>feurd_: what does the dhclient command tell you?
20:43<feurd_>the same as before.
20:43<uso>ok, stop it with Ctrl-C and start it again
20:43<feurd_>That's what I did
20:44-!-feurd [~feurd@84-75-121-102.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:44<uso>hmm, does a realtek device need firmware?
20:44<uso>ok, we can try a static config to see if the network works
20:44-!-luminiferousstars [~luminifer@186.138.85.30] has quit []
20:45<uso>do you know the (internal) IP of your router?
20:45<uso>or that of the ubuntu box if it's in the same network
20:45<feurd_>the thing is, I already installed a debian distro on that computer, and the wired connection worked out of the box. Only the wifi conncetion was an issue. Now, both of them don't work...
20:45-!-ximion1 [~ximion@p50922A54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:46<feurd_>Mhmm... might the correct answer be 192.168.
20:46<feurd_>0.1 ?
20:47<uso>is the ubuntu box in the same network?
20:47-!-gry [~noone@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe89:8366] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:47<uso>if yes, check the IP addres of it with: ip a s
20:47<feurd_>By ubuntu box, you mean the computer I'm using right now to communicate with you? If yes, than yes, they both are on the same network
20:48<uso>that's what I mean
20:49-!-sinatributos [~s@118.60.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:49<feurd_>Is 'inet 84.75.121.102/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0' the line you're looking for?
20:50<uso>in general yes, but that doesn't fit together
20:50<uso>that's in one line?
20:51-!-osw [~osw@190.150.86.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:51<uso>that 84.x looks like an external IP address
20:51<feurd_>Yes. Would you have the complete message?
20:51<uso>hmm, try ifconfig if you are used to that
20:52<uso>same values?
20:52<feurd_>Where did you see a 84.X thing?
20:52<uso>inet 84.75.121.102/24
20:52<uso>I'm just a lazy typer, sorry
20:52<feurd_>?? That's not what I typed
20:53<uso>ok, then please retype :)
20:53<feurd_>inet 84.75.121.102/24
20:53<uso>that's again a 84.75...
20:54<uso>I'm afraid that's your stupid router :)
20:54<feurd_>What sorcery is it ????
20:54<feurd_>It's actually my public IP...
20:54<uso>ok, type the IP address with + or any other character instead of the .
20:54<feurd_>192+168+0+20/24
20:54<uso>that's the sorcery of NAT
20:55<uso>ok, better :)
20:55-!-xjuan [~xjuan@host199.190-231-56.telecom.net.ar] has joined #debian
20:55<feurd_>That's one of these things I will have to learn. But not today :)
20:55<uso>are there other computers in the same network? do you know their IP adresses?
20:55<koollman>damn ... you probably want to change that router :)
20:55-!-MadHatter42 [~MadHatter@217.73.143.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:56<feurd_>I probably want to change that Internet Provider... :)
20:56<feurd_>Well, the IP address I gave you is the local IP of my 'communicative' computer, right?
20:56<koollman>that, too. but something doing text replacement inside your tcp sessions is really bad
20:57<uso>indeed
20:57<feurd_>Yeah, they force me to have this router.
20:57<uso>feurd_: lets just try a random IP ...
20:57-!-Saxman [~Saxman@141.99.226.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:57<feurd_>I don't know what this weird behavior means, but I don't like it very much...
20:57<uso>back to your debian installation
20:58<feurd_>uso, Yes sorry
20:58<uso>manually add an IP address to it (stop the dhclient before if not already stopped)
20:58<feurd_>how do I do that?
20:59<uso>np, wasn't meant as an order call :)
20:59<feurd_>I know, but I don't want to take you more time than necessary.
20:59<uso>ip a add dev eth0 192.168.0.87 brd 192.168.0.255
21:00<uso>hope that syntax is correct
21:00-!-denon [~denon@188-230-230-9.dynamic.t-2.net] has joined #debian
21:00<uso>check it with ip a s when the command gave no error
21:03<feurd_>Ok, I seem to have aquired the new IP adress successfully
21:03-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:03-!-TwoPoint7182818 [~mrm@104.131.107.149] has joined #debian
21:03-!-vicamo [~vicamo@175.41.48.77] has joined #debian
21:03<uso>try to ping your ubuntu PC: ping -n 192.168.0.20
21:04-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
21:04-!-denon [~denon@188-230-230-9.dynamic.t-2.net] has quit []
21:04-!-DarkUranium [~DarkUrani@cpe-77.38.77.88.cable.t-1.si] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
21:04<uso>(I hope that has no firewall wich blocks it)
21:04<uso>+h
21:04<feurd_>I mean it says 'inet 192.168.0.87/32 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0'
21:05<TwoPoint7182818>I'm installing on a newly acquired computer and would like some advice. Is this a good place to ask?
21:05<maxb>The netmask is likely wrong there
21:05<uso>feurd_: that /32 is not good
21:05<uso>nevermind, it's ok
21:05<maxb>The previously mentioned 'ip a add' command was not quite right
21:05<feurd_>it says 'network is unreachable'
21:06<uso>right, does it need a /24 behind the IP? or a netmask?
21:06-!-MsEvilEyes [~MsEvilEye@c-71-62-64-75.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #debian
21:06<uso>maxb: ^^
21:06<maxb>'ip addr delete 192.168.0.87/32 dev eth0; ip addr add 192.168.0.87/24 dev eth0 brd +'
21:06<feurd_>but do we agree that the 84.75.121.102 IP is the one of my other computer (the one I use to chat), and not my router?
21:06-!-MsEvilEyes [~MsEvilEye@c-71-62-64-75.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit []
21:07<uso>feurd_: please run the commands maxb typed above
21:07<TwoPoint7182818>I'm kinda lost trying to figure out what I need to do about UEFI boot.
21:07<uso>my command syntax was wrong
21:07<maxb>feurd_: Did you actually type "but do we agree that the 84.75.121.102 IP is the one of my other computer (the one I use to chat), and not my router?" or did your router sabotage your communication again?
21:07<uso>I guess not, that's his router doing text replacement ;)
21:08-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
21:08-!-rryoumaa [~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:08-!-gfedel [~kropotkin@191.32.201.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:09-!-baumas [~baumas@2601:2:5b00:8a3:7ec3:a1ff:fea2:76cc] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:09<feurd_>oh crap. Yes. So, the IP Address 192+168+0+20. Is it the one of my computer, or the one of my router?
21:10<TwoPoint7182818>If this isn't a good place for that, I'd really appreciate a recommendation for a more suitable channel.
21:10<maxb>TwoPoint7182818: Yes, all kinds of help with Debian are on topic here
21:10<feurd_>And if I type the command you gave, maxb, it says RTNETLING answers : Operation not permitted. Even in sudo mode.
21:11<uso>feurd_: it's the IP of your ubuntu computer, at least you told so :)
21:11<feurd_>*RTNETLINK
21:11<maxb>It was two commands. If you want to run it with sudo, you need to separately sudo both of them
21:11<uso>split them at the semicolon
21:12<feurd_>Well, I don't know what we are doing precisely, I follow your lead. All I mean is that it might do a difference if I ping my router or another computer on the network. But maybe I'm wrong.
21:13<uso>feurd_: we aren't at that stage yet, my command was wrong, so your interface got a wrong netmast
21:13<feurd_>maxb, I tried both ways, with and without the sudo. It gave the same 'forbidden' answer
21:13<maxb>'sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.87/24 dev eth0 brd +'
21:13<uso>now you have to delete the wrong IP with the firast command from maxb and re-add it correctly with the 2nd command
21:14<TwoPoint7182818>I'm installing on a thinkpad x220 with an 128GB ssd, and it uses EFI instead of bios.
21:14<uso>feurd_: check with ip a s after the delete if the old IP address has been revoved before adding the new one
21:14<feurd_>Oooooh ok, I get it, I should have added a second sudo for the second command. Right.
21:15-!-ratcheer [~ratcheer@0001a5d7.user.oftc.net] has left #debian []
21:15<feurd_>Now it worked.
21:15<uso>what does ip a s show now?
21:15<uso>(replace the dots ;)
21:15<TwoPoint7182818>Currently I'm trying to figure out how I should partition it 1. given that it's an ssd, and 2. I'm not sure whether uefi requires some special partition on the drive
21:16<maxb>Regarding what we are doing precisely: We have determined that your something is wrong/broken with the automatic assignment of addresses on your network, and have manually given the address ending .87 to one of your computers as a workaround. That's about all that has happened so far.
21:16<feurd_>uso, It says that the destination is unreachable
21:16<uso>ok, one chance, we try to ping the router
21:16-!-Noskcaj [~Noskcaj@CPE-60-231-4-22.lns3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined #debian
21:16<uso>check on your ubuntu PC what the router IP is (I guess .1)
21:16<feurd_>maxb, Ok thank you for the precision. It's clearer.
21:16<uso>command: ip r s
21:17-!-klatin_ [~klatin@p5B0E6180.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
21:17<uso>there should be a line with default
21:17<maxb>TwoPoint7182818: Are you trying to install multiple operating systems? If not, I suggest just letting the Debian installer sort it all out for you
21:17<feurd_>default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 proto static
21:17<feurd_>192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 84.75.121.102 metric 1
21:17<uso>feurd_: ok, try to ping that address: ping -n 192.168.0.1
21:17<maxb>text replacement strikes again :-)
21:18<feurd_>All the same I'm afraid...
21:18<uso>you never know what kind of braindead hardware is out there :)
21:18<feurd_>what do you mean by text replacement?
21:18-!-ximion_ [~ximion@p50922ABD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
21:18<uso>your router changes your messages, it replaces the IP address in it
21:19<feurd_>Oh ok. No it's ok, 192+168+0+1
21:19-!-dous [~dous@49.148.0.7] has joined #debian
21:19<uso>feurd_: looks like your network (hardware?) is dead
21:19<TwoPoint7182818>maxb: I like installing separate /home / and /data partitions to make reinstalling easier.
21:20-!-feurd_ is now known as feurd
21:20<uso>feurd_: can you please paste the line from your interface configuration on the debian installation just to be sure?
21:20<maxb>Given the typical size of SSDs, that seems suboptimal
21:20-!-HHH [~knoppix@ool-4572f4f7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
21:20<uso>feurd: the line with the IP address
21:20<feurd>uso, I can't paste anything, unfortunately. But I will type here as precisely as possible.
21:21<feurd>But sorry, what line do you want?
21:21<uso>feurd: just check the 2 numbers, 192.168.0.87/24 and 192.168.0.255
21:21-!-vicamo [~vicamo@175.41.48.77] has quit [Quit: vicamo]
21:22<maxb>TwoPoint7182818: You should probably just go through the installer selecting guided partitioning, use entire disk - and then go back and edit what the installer proposes
21:22<uso>feurd: the output of ip a s
21:23<maxb>An EFI installation will want to create an EFI system partition - so leave that alone, and just replace the suggested / with your / and /home
21:23<feurd>Ok, hang on.
21:24<TwoPoint7182818>maxb: It didn't suggest an efi partition
21:24-!-klatin__ [~klatin@p54AB5B7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:24-!-vicamo [~vicamo@175.41.48.77] has joined #debian
21:25<maxb>Then it seems likely that you are not actually doing an EFI install
21:25<maxb>The installer should install an EFI-booting system is the installer itself was EFI-booted. Otherwise, BIOS
21:25<TwoPoint7182818>maxb: How do I do an efi install? I know nothing about efi aside from hearing people curse about it a few times.
21:26-!-trapier [~trapier@cpe-174-097-188-117.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:27<feurd>uso, http://paste.debian.net/137942/
21:27<maxb>If you prepare an EFI-bootable install medium (USB stick) and boot it in EFI mode, it will install a system configured to boot in EFI mode
21:28-!-mode/#debian [+l 664] by debhelper
21:28<uso>feurd: did you type that? oh, sorry, would have been enough to compare the two numbers
21:28<uso>but looks good
21:28<feurd>uso, No, I used a usb stick :)
21:28<uso>feurd: can you please check the route with : ip r s
21:29<uso>should have a line like on your ubuntu system with 192.168.0.0/24 dev ...
21:29-!-mdik is now known as Guest2763
21:30<feurd>default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 proto static // 192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 84.75.121.102 metric 1
21:30-!-mdik [~mdik@brln-4d0699fb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #debian
21:30<feurd>uso, How did you guess??? :)
21:30<uso>ok, so the configuration is correct
21:30<uso>2 options left, firmware and hordware
21:30<uso>hardware
21:31<feurd>I had firmware issues last time I installed debian on that laptop.
21:31<uso>feurd: could you please run: dmsg|grep -i firmware
21:31<uso>to check the system messages
21:31-!-sidmo_ [~sidmo@p5489DA7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
21:31<feurd>It's quite new. But I finally fixed it. But I had to reinstall it and it's still more broken than before now...
21:31-!-ReAzem [~ReAzem@modemcable061.201-179-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #debian
21:32<feurd>dmsg command not found
21:32<theocrite>feurd: dmesg
21:33<uso>feurd: sorry, should have been dmesg
21:33<feurd>ok
21:34<feurd>[0.581796 ] [Firmware bug]: ACPI : BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored.
21:34-!-dous [~dous@49.148.0.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:34<feurd>I'm not an expert, but I thing it means there's something wrong with my firmware :)
21:34<uso>feurd: that's all?
21:34<uso>I'm not sure if that's related though
21:34<feurd>uso, yes.
21:34-!-topcyde [~topcyde@adsl-75-32-49-87.dsl.amrltx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
21:35<uso>ACPI shouldn't have something to do with the network interface
21:35<TwoPoint7182818>maxb: Also, why would / /home /data be inefficient?
21:35<uso>feurd: well, you could try to replace the network cable, but otherwise I'm out of ideas
21:36<uso>feurd: you may try to reinstall from a debian CD with firmware though
21:36-!-dous [~dous@49.148.0.7] has joined #debian
21:36-!-bafu [~bafu@175.41.48.77] has joined #debian
21:36<feurd>My laptop has no CD slot
21:36-!-Guest2763 [~mdik@brln-4d0ca28c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:36<uso>but I don't know if that will help at all, as I think there should be a message about missing firmware
21:37<feurd>That's why I used a USB stick
21:37<uso>feurd: well, you know how to get that image to the USB stick now :P
21:37<uso>dpkg: tell feurd about firmware images
21:38-!-toto42 [~toto@2a02:908:f324:7780:2c1:26ff:fe06:2bf2] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:38<feurd>Yes! So you suggest I reinstall the whole thing to see if there's a progress?
21:38<uso>feurd: I don't have much hope, but it may be a small chance
21:38-!-sidmo [~sidmo@p5489D810.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:38-!-HHH [~knoppix@ool-4572f4f7.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:39<feurd>uso, But how could I get additionnal/different firmwares without connecting to the net?
21:39<uso>also try to exchange the network cable, sometimes there are strange hardware bugs
21:39<uso>feurd: it's on the iso image which the bot send you the url
21:40<uso>feurd: you may even be able to copy the firmware to the current system with an USB stick, but I'm not that familiar with firmware issues, somebody else may have to help you there
21:42<uso>so trying to reinstall the system from an ISO image with firmware included may be the fastes way
21:43<uso>unless somebody else still has another idea
21:43-!-xjuan [~xjuan@host199.190-231-56.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:44<feurd>So I should add the firmware you suggested me to the usb stick that contains the debian stand installer ?
21:44-!-ReAzem [~ReAzem@modemcable061.201-179-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:44<uso>feurd: no, that's just another CD/DVD image which contains the debian installer plus the firmware
21:45<uso>you can overwrite the old installer with it
21:45<uso>*on the USB stick
21:45<feurd>Oh ok, so I replace the previous version with this one ?
21:45<uso>yes
21:45<feurd>perfect. I'll do that. Nothing to loose.
21:45<feurd>*lose
21:46-!-lostson [~lostson@cpe-107-10-110-2.new.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:47<uso>feurd: maybe also try a different port on your router if you have aother free one
21:47<uso>*another
21:47-!-dous [~dous@49.148.0.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:48-!-dous [~dous@49.148.0.7] has joined #debian
21:52<TwoPoint7182818>I have a 128GB ssd. I usually like to have a separate partition like /data for the bulk of my files to make reinstalls easier, and usually have a separate /home partition.
21:53<TwoPoint7182818>Is there a reason why this might be bad on an ssd? If not, how much space would you recommend giving each partition?
21:54<feurd>uso, but is it normal that the iso you gave me is only 250Mo, when the previous one was like 4Go ?
21:54<uso>TwoPoint7182818: the latter point is the problem, especially with such a rather small disk, nobody could know that better than you
21:54-!-JSavage [~JSavage@atlantic393.serverprofi24.com] has joined #debian
21:55<uso>feurd: it's probably a netinstall ISO, just with the files you need for the basic installation, anything else is loaded over the network
21:55-!-corey84-- [~Corey84@wsip-98-191-213-227.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:55-!-infinity0 [~infinity0@0001b9ba.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:55-!-faw [~Felipe@faw.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:55<uso>feurd: I install all my debian systems from a netinstall image and don't bother to download DVD images
21:56<TwoPoint7182818>uso: I have particular numbers I'm used to from past installs, I'm just not sure if an ssd requires any special consideration.
21:56<feurd>uso, Ok I'l give it a try.
21:56-!-dous [~dous@49.148.0.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:57<TwoPoint7182818>uso: I'm mostly worried about wear leveling. If I had a 20GB root, would this wear down unreasonably quickly?
21:59-!-infinity0 [~infinity0@e181243132.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian
21:59<uso>TwoPoint7182818: sorry, I don't have much experience with SSDs, so I'm probably the wrong one to answer that
22:00<uso>I would prefer to have anything in one "space" so maybe add an LVM layer or maybe install jessie and use btrfs
22:00<feurd>Wait a second. In order to identify the sdX of the usb, I type 'ls -l -n Debian_Boot /dev/disk/by-id/*usb*'
22:01<feurd>It seems to be the sdd. So I unmount it before copying it. But then, the sdd disappear...
22:02<uso>feurd: hmm, shouldn't
22:03<uso>feurd: you can also check the devices with blkid
22:03<uso>(before and after plugging the stick to see the difference)
22:04<feurd>well, no, it doesn't disapper, but when it type the cp command, it says that 'no media has been found'
22:04<feurd>*when I type
22:04<uso>feurd: then you use the wrong path name
22:04<uso>use /dev/sdX
22:05<uso>(where X seems to be d in your case now)
22:05-!-Greylocks [~Greylocks@0001bf10.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:05-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@119.42.77.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:05<uso>still not sure why it's d this time when it has been e the last time
22:07<uso>feurd: you also can use: grep /dev/sdd /proc/mounts
22:08-!-mode/#debian [+l 658] by debhelper
22:08<uso>to check if anything from the sdd device is mounted on the system
22:08-!-mezimezim [~bruce@ip194.222-51-69.sogetel.net] has joined #debian
22:08-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:08<feurd>the blkid give me several outputs. I don't know which one is the good one.
22:09<feurd>Oh ok. It seems like the sdd entry is kind of a 'trace' of a previous disk.
22:09-!-darkbasic [~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it] has joined #debian
22:09<mezimezim>I'm looking for a way to open OXPS files on debian
22:09<mezimezim>any clue on how-toT?
22:09<feurd>So basically, the current one is not recognized anymore.
22:10<uso>feurd: the difference between the blkid without your stick plugged in and the blkid with your stick plugged in is the device of the stick :)
22:10<feurd>uso, oh yes, clever :)
22:11<mezimezim>it seems OXPS is only "open" in the name....
22:11-!-oscar [~oscar@177.232.166.206] has joined #debian
22:12<feurd>uso, My computer seems confused. He give to this usb stick the name of an external hard drive I previousely plugged in.
22:12<feurd>With the corresponding sdX.
22:13<uso>feurd: it isn't, the device names get reused
22:13<feurd>Well, that's a special name I gave him (it).
22:13<uso>so as long as the drive is not plugged anymore it's ok
22:13<feurd>Anyway, it says that it's on sdd. But I can't copy the iso on it.
22:14<uso>feurd: what kind of special name and hot did you "give it" to the device?
22:14<feurd>And it doesnt appear on gparted.
22:14<feurd>DEXTER
22:14-!-thunderrd [~thunderrd@116.58.244.251] has joined #debian
22:14<uso>forget gparted, what's the error message when you try the copy?
22:14<feurd>and blkid gives me : /dev/sdd1: LABEL="DEXTER" UUID="2CFC-19FA" TYPE="vfat"
22:15<feurd>when I plug the usb stick.
22:15<uso>feurd: oh, and you are sure that drive isn't connected anymore?
22:15<uso>strange
22:16<feurd>affirmative
22:17<uso>then indeed something is weird on your computer and you better shouldn't use sdd to copy the image
22:17<feurd>Ok. I think I should probably reboot :)
22:17<uso>but I have no idea what's wrong there, if in doubt maybe reboot
22:17<uso>I hope you haven't overwritten anything with a cp command
22:17<feurd>I thought Linux never need to be rebooted :)
22:17-!-oblivia [~oblivia@156.57.124.25] has joined #debian
22:17<uso>that's a fairytale :P
22:18<feurd>Well, I tried, but the terminal didnt let me do it :)
22:18<uso>or a lack of knowledge ;)
22:18-!-oblivia [~oblivia@156.57.124.25] has quit []
22:18<feurd>And because I was afraid, I unplugged every storage device before doing anything :)
22:18<feurd>uso, Ok. You're a myth buster, but that's ok :)
22:19<uso>well, "it didn't let me" doesn't sound that good
22:19<uso>feurd: just in case, do you have a backup?
22:19<feurd>Well, it said that there were no media under sdd.
22:19<feurd>Yes I have. On my DEXTER disk :D
22:20<uso>feurd: ok, that should be safe, should ..
22:20<feurd>I put the disk in the kitchen. Just in case.
22:20<uso>far away from the computer :)
22:20<feurd>Yep :)
22:21-!-feurd [~feurd@84-75-121-102.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:23-!-Corey84 [~Corey84@wsip-70-175-229-132.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #debian
22:23-!-Corey84 is now known as Guest2765
22:25-!-feurd [~feurd@84-75-121-102.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #debian
22:25-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:26-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
22:27-!-william1 [~smuxi@69.250.41.64] has joined #debian
22:27-!-themi [~themi@162.104.224.126] has joined #debian
22:27<uso>feurd: I just saw your reverse lookup when you left ... I don't believe it, that crappy router is a Cablecom box? an old one or even a Horizon box?
22:28-!-mode/#debian [+l 664] by debhelper
22:28<themi>Hi
22:28<feurd>uso, Cablecom indeed. How do you know??
22:28<uso>feurd: make a /whois feurd and you see :)
22:28<themi>some one from kali linux?
22:29<feurd>where do I type that?
22:29<uso>feurd: what's your IRC client
22:29<uso>?
22:29<feurd>xchat
22:29-!-gomex_ [~gomex@177.158.207.206] has joined #debian
22:29<themi>ferud you to are connected from kali linux?
22:30<feurd>themi, me? Nope.
22:30<feurd>whois feurd
22:30<themi>hook
22:30<themi>ho ok
22:30<uso>hmm, not sure, maybe in some user menu or if you have a separate server window
22:30-!-^A^ [~quassel@180.173.59.0] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:31-!-themi2 [~themi@162.104.224.126] has joined #debian
22:31<uso>feurd: or just try it in your normal chat window, just be sure not to add any character in front of it
22:31-!-futharkr [~futharkr@0001fa4c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:31-!-root__ [~themi@162.104.224.126] has joined #debian
22:31<feurd>wait........
22:32-!-themi2 [~themi@162.104.224.126] has left #debian []
22:32-!-themi [~themi@162.104.224.126] has quit []
22:32<feurd>I tried in the server window.
22:32<feurd>It displayed my real name...
22:32<feurd>tell me it's just for me to see it
22:33<oscar>hello
22:33<oscar>can anybody help me with getting Spotify running?
22:33<uso>feurd: it isn't ;), you may want to configure your IRC client properly
22:33<oscar>i already isntalled it, but it just doesnt run
22:34<feurd>for F*CK sake!!! How do I change that!?
22:34<uso>feurd: also have a look at this URL http://www.oftc.net/NickServ/CertFP/
22:34-!-coramdeo [~coramdeo@112.217.72.188] has joined #debian
22:35-!-coramdeo [~coramdeo@112.217.72.188] has left #debian []
22:35<uso>feurd: that's somewhere in the xchat settings I guess and that URL shows how to configure things to not have your IP address displayed to others
22:35-!-root__ [~themi@162.104.224.126] has left #debian []
22:36-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:36<uso>feurd: I think when you don't configure the names in xchat it takes it from your linux login info
22:36<oscar>so, does anyone knows how to get Spotify running correctly?
22:36<feurd>uso, I don't find any preference to change that on xchat. I will find another more secure soft...
22:37<feurd>that's just insane
22:37<futharkr>feurd go into network list
22:37-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
22:37<uso>feurd: I'm quite sure you can configure that in xchat, otherwise I can recommend irssi, but that's a terminal client
22:37-!-tencendur [~rickbol@cpe-174-096-184-106.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:37<futharkr>has 4 boxes that is auto populated from your account for nickname etc
22:38-!-Jane_PC [~Jane@37.72.205.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:38<feurd>futharkr, Oh ok yes, there's my real name..... What a prick I am
22:39<feurd>But still, it's so stupid to let a way to display it.
22:39<futharkr>even terminal clients auto configure your nick settings based off your user
22:39<futharkr>but yes, I would prefer blank too
22:40<feurd>uso, But how did you know I was with cablecom?
22:40-!-mezimezim [~bruce@ip194.222-51-69.sogetel.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
22:40<uso>yes, I think irssi does that by default too, at least the user name, not sure about the real name
22:41<futharkr>your hostmask shows from the ip you connected
22:41<futharkr>you need to turn your cloak on if your nick is registered
22:41<feurd>Now that I know that, I'll be careful. I changed it, but it didnt take effect apparently. I should probably relaunch.
22:41<futharkr>genau
22:42<feurd>futharkr, sorry I don't follow you. You mean I can't hide my personal ID because of my IP address?
22:42-!-dvs [~colin@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:42<futharkr>someone can whois your nickname, you want to turn cloak on so OFTC masks the IP you are connecting from
22:43<futharkr>its not absolutely reliable but works decent
22:43<futharkr>http://www.oftc.net/UserCloaks/
22:44<futharkr>you need to have a registered account before you enable cloak though
22:44<feurd>Ok. Is it the only option to be private on a IRC chat?
22:44<futharkr>nothing is private
22:44<futharkr>but if you want to be more anonymous use a proxy before your irc client connects and make sure your cloak is enabled
22:45<feurd>Mhmm I don't know how to do that either...
22:45-!-cootcraig [~craig@c-98-245-108-98.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #debian
22:46<uso>feurd: with a certificate (the URL I gave you above) it works quite well
22:46-!-root__ [~themi@162.104.224.126] has joined #debian
22:46<uso>the cloak I mean
22:46-!-root__ [~themi@162.104.224.126] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:46<feurd>Ok I'll read it carefully.
22:46-!-themi [~themi@162.104.224.126] has joined #debian
22:46-!-dk [~dinesh@106.211.0.84] has joined #debian
22:47<feurd>It seems a bit technical, but I'm not afraid :)
22:47<futharkr>yeah you want to generate cert, use that for auto authenticating your client and then enable cloak. make sure you account is registered with nickserv before you attempt either
22:47-!-trapier [~trapier@cpe-024-211-244-177.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
22:47<themi>Hi People
22:47<feurd>futharkr, is there a way to 'test' if everything is well configured?
22:48<futharkr>yeah do a whois of your nick
22:48<futharkr>after you connect
22:48-!-dous [~dous@49.148.0.7] has joined #debian
22:48<futharkr>after you adjust settings and reconnect I should say
22:48<themi>anyone here use easy creds?
22:48<feurd>Oh ok. If it displays a made up name, I'm "sure" I'm anonymous?
22:49<feurd>i.e. as anonymous as possible of course
22:49-!-william1 [~smuxi@69.250.41.64] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:49<futharkr>well in the sense of its not your real name. anyone can see the public IP you are connecting from still unless you cloak
22:50-!-smulverine [~smulverin@42-2-1-082.static.netvigator.com] has joined #debian
22:50<futharkr>that may or may not be an issue for you
22:51<feurd>That's not a terrible issue. But I swiched to linux because I want to have a bit of controle over the informations I give away. It's not to spread it in every IRC channel I go asking my newbie questions ;)
22:51-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
22:52-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
22:53<themi>anyone know the best evil twin karma?
22:54<uso>feurd: newbie questions are not a problem, especially if you want to learn, everybody has started there and still is in a lot of areas
22:56-!-dous_ [~dous@49.148.0.7] has joined #debian
22:56-!-tencendur [~rickbol@cpe-174-096-184-106.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
22:56-!-dous_ [~dous@49.148.0.7] has quit []
22:56-!-dous [~dous@49.148.0.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:57<themi>i need hep with beef
22:59-!-pi_ [~pi@66-38-20-253.ppoe.dsl.logantele.com] has joined #debian
22:59-!-cewood [~cewood@202.10.91.226] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
23:00<themi>hello?
23:04-!-Guest2765 [~Corey84@wsip-70-175-229-132.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:06<cootcraig>Unable to get wireless running on Thinkpad T500. Debian jessie. xfce desktop installed. Need help
23:07-!-aerostitch [~aerostitc@64.201.252.132] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:08<feurd>cootcraig, I'm pretty sure people here need full sentences.
23:08<cootcraig>I am unable to get wireless working on my Thinkpad T500
23:10<cootcraig>and need help.
23:13-!-pi_ [~pi@66-38-20-253.ppoe.dsl.logantele.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:13-!-dk [~dinesh@106.211.0.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:14-!-tetrapovicc [~trifyl@AToulouse-652-1-256-75.w109-223.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
23:15-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-66-104-77.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:15-!-edhongcy [~AndChat63@42-66-104-77.EMOME-IP.hinet.net] has joined #debian
23:15-!-futharkr [~futharkr@0001fa4c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:16-!-lostson [~lostson@cpe-107-10-110-2.new.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
23:16<themi>cootcraig you are on debian sys?
23:16-!-centrx [~centrx@50.153.129.162] has joined #debian
23:16<cootcraig>themi don't know debian sys. Did just find #linux-wireless
23:17-!-lostson [~lostson@cpe-107-10-110-2.new.res.rr.com] has quit []
23:17<themi>chek with rfkill list
23:17<themi>type: rfkill list
23:18-!-centrx [~centrx@50.153.129.162] has quit []
23:19-!-trifolio6 [~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
23:19<themi>rfkill block all
23:19<themi>rfkill unblock all
23:20<cootcraig>themi there are 4 lines all with *** blocked: no
23:22<cootcraig>rfkill block all - soft blocked yes. hard blocked no.
23:22<cootcraig>rfkill unblock all - all blocked: no
23:22<themi>chek with if config if the interface is one
23:22<themi>ifconfig
23:23<cootcraig>ifconfig has wlan0 lines
23:23<themi>so that your interface wifi
23:23<themi>pres iwconfig
23:24<cootcraig>iwconfig has lines for wlan0
23:25<themi>so you interface is working what the problem?
23:25-!-claykimber1 [~clay@2601:2:5880:424:5604:a6ff:fe26:1621] has left #debian []
23:25<cootcraig>I run [Network Connections] and don't know how to get wireless working.
23:26<themi>you are connected from linux?
23:26-!-alfix [~alfonso@host113-28-dynamic.47-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
23:26<cootcraig>irc is from another debian box on wired ethernet.
23:27<themi>you are conected on kali linux?
23:28<cootcraig>My irc is from debian jessie box. I that what you're asking?
23:28<themi>no
23:28<themi>type this
23:29<themi>rfkill unblock 01
23:29<cootcraig>OK I did
23:29<themi>rfkill uwhen you type iwconfig u see somthing like this IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any ?
23:30<cootcraig>Yes on iwconfig output
23:31-!-kevinbenko [~kevinbenk@24-117-138-91.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #debian
23:31<themi>only the you need to do is configure you ap
23:31<themi>configure u pc w u ap
23:32-!-kevinbenko [~kevinbenk@24-117-138-91.cpe.cableone.net] has quit []
23:32<cootcraig>don't understand that
23:32-!-trapier [~trapier@cpe-024-211-244-177.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1]
23:33<themi>configurate your wifi and you dhcp and assig ip
23:33<cootcraig>OK, how do I rerun that now?
23:34-!-barbanegra [~libertad@0001866c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:35-!-themi [~themi@162.104.224.126] has left #debian [Leaving]
23:35<cootcraig>When I installed I was on wired ethernet. After reboot I disconnected wire and tried to configure wi-fi with [Network Connections]
23:36<cootcraig>The Fn wireless button does flip the led on and off, but I don't know how to configure the wireless.
23:38-!-mode/#debian [+l 657] by debhelper
23:38-!-oscar [~oscar@177.232.166.206] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:40-!-kevinbenko [~kevinbenk@24-116-44-213.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #debian
23:41-!-sakax [~sakax@sakax.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:46-!-aranax [~aranax@190.148.6.254] has joined #debian
23:48-!-gomex_ [~gomex@177.158.207.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:50-!-Hariharan [~harihare@106.51.232.113] has joined #debian
23:56-!-tetrapovicc [~trifyl@AToulouse-652-1-256-75.w109-223.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:59-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:59-!-viccuad [~vic@243.Red-81-34-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian
---Logclosed Wed Dec 24 00:00:55 2014