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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-25

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00:21<x>hi
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03:27<hdon>hi all :) does anyone remember a game that used to be included with gnome desktop on many distros... used gtk+ and was a lot like the modern title "galcon" where there's a bunch of planets that grow spaceships, and you choose a planet 0 and send N ships to planet 1 and if you sent enough ships then you've conquered it and it begins making ships that belong to you now
03:27<hdon>(this was a loooong time ago)
03:28<hdon>i remember it being on a more or less vanilla install of debian way back when
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03:52<Xylon>how could terminal tab auto-completion break?
03:53<wompa>Xylon, depends on shell, for bash the bash-completion package might not be installed or have been removed
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03:55<Xylon>the package is there but thanks for the pointer, gives me somewhere to start
03:57<wompa>Xylon, also if you change user with "su" without including "-" (a minus) at the end some parts of the completion might not work either. su to root and try to complete update in apt-get update for instance. The minus makes su read that uesr's .bashrc and .profile and probably some other files, making it more like a "real" login
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04:05<mitrom>Such unanswered questions
04:05<mitrom>Tis the season to be jolly!
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05:58<sickboy>hello
05:59<linuxuz3r>hi im a noob here
06:00<sickboy>me to
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06:16<sickboy>hello
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06:17<sickboy>i'm kinda new to this stuff
06:17<mitrom>sickboy, *too
06:17<mitrom>Please use correct grammar.
06:18<mitrom>You can use word shortenings like ur but kindly use correct your you're and [that other one]
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06:18<mitrom>and to, too, and two
06:20<linuxuz3r>what is the development meta package in debian
06:21<mjt>development meta package? What do you mean? development of what?
06:21<mitrom>groupinstall "Development Tools" ?
06:21<linuxuz3r>yes
06:21<mjt>there's build-essential metapackage too, fwiw
06:22<linuxuz3r>ty
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06:25<linuxuz3r>merry christmass guys
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06:25<chaos>sshht.. they'll slap you with an off topic :P
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07:35<JSavage>Hello.
07:36<JSavage>I don't use debian, but I was wondering if someone here could help me anyways. When trying to start X I get an error saying that it cannot compile a keymap and then it does not start.
07:37<JSavage>It is not a permissions issue with /tmp and it isn't a disk space issue.
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07:41<abrotman>this channel supports Debian. There is likely a channel for your distro
07:42<JSavage>abrotman: Is there any reason why people here can't try to support non-Debian GNU+Linux users?
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07:42<JSavage>abrotman: I don't think there is a channel on this network for it.
07:42<abrotman>What distro i sit?
07:42<abrotman>is it
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07:44<JSavage>Well, there is a channel for my distro, kind of. I use Slackware, but I have compiled the software myself and even have an ISO for my own distro. Not sure if they would even be willing to help.
07:44<JSavage>The problem probably has a similar solution on different distros, though.
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07:45<abrotman>JSavage: This channel supports Debian, try ##linux on irc.freenode.net
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07:46<JSavage>abrotman: Freenode doesn't allow Tor, except with SASL.
07:47<abrotman>Okay, so set that up, this isn't a problem for #debian
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07:49<JSavage>abrotman: Do you have any idea what the solution to my problem with X is?
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07:50<abrotman>JSavage: Please take this to an appropriate channel. There are more general linux help channels on this network, or setup SASL on your IRC client to use Freenode
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10:17<bercik121>Guys! I think I have just broke my swap partition and I need yuour help. My system partition is full and I wanted to resize it but I incidentally formatted my swap partition using Debian installer prtition manager. Not while booting i get something like "Start job is running for dev-disk-by\...." And then a warining shows up " Failed dependancy for SWAP" or something like this. Any suggestions to
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11:28<awal>Trying to find the relevant info but no luck. Apart the name and logo, where I can learn about all changes made in firefox (iceweasel) debian pack?
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11:30<awal>I mean changes compared with the upstream package
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12:04<awal>I have a more interesting question and I really would like how to do it: X pack depends on A, B and C packs and recommends D and E packs. A depends on F and G and recommends H and I. F depends on J and recommends K...How to list all these deps and recommends with a single command using dpkg, apt or aptitude and not have to do check packages deps and recommends individually?
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12:05<awal>would like know ^
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12:09<awal>For example lightdm depends on libc6 and recommends xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-core and recommends libgll-mesa-dri...How to know all that deps and recommends with a single command?
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13:38<arand>awal: I think in the iceweasel repo just git diff upstream/31.3.0esr debian/31.3.0esr-1 might do it.
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13:49<phillipsjk>For the first time is a long time, I am logging in at the console of this machine. Unfortunately, I changed the hardware and the key layout is different. "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" worked for text cons, but not X. james@workhorse:~$ setxkbmap appeared to do nothing.
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13:50<abrotman>!keymap
13:50<dpkg>Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
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14:32<awal>arand, ok. i'll check that. Thanks
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15:09<forsi>Brazil?
15:10<planetmaker>!br
15:10<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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15:12<mitrom>ao2, thats a very... big ipv6 range you have there
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16:05<phillipsjk>OK, "james@workhorse:~$ setxkbmap us" worked. Was trying en_us and similar :P
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16:08<winEX>привет
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16:28<Naruhiko315>Bonjour
16:30<Naruhiko315>J'ai sur mon serveur 3 utilisateurs (blastfight, oxycraft, teamspeak), chacun d'eux possède un dossier "/home/UTILISATEUR", tous les dossiers comprit dedans sont au groupe de l'utilisateur et à l'utilisateur.
16:31<Naruhiko315>Le problème c'est que j'ai un script qui démarre une commande Java dans un screen, des fois celui-ci génère de nouveaux fichiers et malgré qu'ils soient dans le dossier de l'utilisateur, si j'execute ce fichier avec l'utilisateur; les fichiers qui doivent se générer ne se créeront pas car "l'utilisateur n'a pas la permission".
16:32<Naruhiko315>J'aimerais savoir comment est-ce que je peux faire pour que l'utilisateur possède toutes les permissions dans son dossier et que par consequent si des fichiers se crées, ils prennent comme groupe et utilisateur, plus root mais bien mon utilisateur ?
16:35<centrx>!fr
16:35<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
16:35<Naruhiko315>Sorry ^^
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16:47<bercik121>Hello! Coul you please suggest me some safe method of resizing the system partition backwards?
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16:48<centrx>bercik121, use parted/gparted
16:49<bercik121>centrx: I could but is it safe to move the lower partition boundary?
16:49<centrx>bercik121, may need to reboot with a rescue disk or the install disk, so you aren't resizing an actively used partition
16:49<centrx>bercik121, I'm not familiar with it at that level, but parted is 99% safe, though of course you should always make backups of anything important
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16:56<bercik121>centrx: I will see what I can do. Thanks
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17:20<Finetundra>hello, i've just installed a new hard drive. How do i get debian to detect it?
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17:22<abrotman>Finetundra: besides rebooting?
17:24<the_hydra>Finetundra: have you make sure your BIOS detects it first?
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17:28<Finetundra>abortman, i'll try that; the_hydra, yes the bios detects it
17:30<abrotman>Finetundra: do you mean detect, or partitioned/used?
17:30<Finetundra>abortman, the OS does not show the slaved drive
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17:32<abrotman>show where?
17:32<Finetundra>in the file manager
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17:36<ompaul>fdisk -l what does that say
17:36<ompaul>lower L:
17:36<ompaul>lower L
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17:39<Finetundra_>ompaul, http://pastebin.com/06vgBAqJ
17:40<Guest2962>hey there, linuxers
17:40<Guest2962>or linuxors
17:40<Guest2962>w/e
17:40<abrotman>Finetundra_: dmesg | grep sd
17:41<abrotman>Finetundra_: otherwise, fdisk /dev/sdb, partition your drive
17:41<ompaul>Finetundra_: ^^
17:43<Finetundra_>abortman, http://pastebin.com/QpFxRx2e
17:43<abrotman>right, so partitoin it
17:44<Finetundra_>do i have to partition it or can i just format it?
17:45<abrotman>you have to give it a partition first
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17:45<abrotman>hence my telling you to use fdisk /dev/sdb
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17:45<Finetundra_>what does that do?
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17:47<Finetundra>sorry if thats a dumb question, but I'm not to well versed with the terminal
17:49<ompaul>!TIAS
17:49<dpkg>TIAS is "Try It And See".
17:49<Finetundra>so i just use gparted then?
17:49<ompaul>you could
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17:49<Finetundra>is there another way?
17:49<ompaul>just use a very powerful tool - make sure you do it right
17:50<ompaul>we told you
17:50<ompaul>terminal fdisk /dev/sdb
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17:52<Finetundra_>um, i just ran that again and got this: http://pastebin.com/2815TMpc
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17:54<ompaul>Finetundra_: and what do you think that asks of you, to press m for help and create a new partition
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17:54<ompaul>because m will tell you all the commands you need
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17:54<Finetundra_>so yes go with it or no?
17:55<ompaul>Finetundra_: do you want to use the disk
17:55<Finetundra_>of course
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17:55<ompaul>so then what would not creating a partition do for you other than not create a partition which you need
17:57<ompaul>Finetundra_: please read this for some of the logic you are about to use http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/newharddisk.htm
17:57<ompaul>make the ext system 4 or 3 not 2
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17:59<Finetundra>i'll just run gparted. this is a tad too complex for me
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18:00<Finetundra>ompaul, if i use gparted, which partittion table type do i want?
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18:01<ompaul>ext4 is my preferred
18:01<ompaul>3 is ok
18:01<valdyn>ompaul: not a table type
18:03<ompaul>primary
18:03<Finetundra>ompaul, it does not give me that. it gives me: msdos, aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun, and loop
18:03<Finetundra>and i get to pick
18:03<ompaul>msdos is easiest
18:03<Finetundra>msdos it it
18:03<ompaul>gpt is for more than 3gigs on one platter
18:03<Finetundra>*it is
18:04<Finetundra>wait, what? the HDD is 160gb, will this be an issue?
18:04<ompaul>sorry
18:04<ompaul>3TB
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18:04<Finetundra>oh, good
18:05<ompaul>I'm going to disappear seems I'm not awake enough
18:05<ompaul>2 wrong answers in 5 minutes
18:05<Finetundra>alright then, have a nice rest
18:05<ompaul>5 hours and I'll be playing lets go to the airport
18:05<ompaul>cheers
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21:18<clarence>¨E: Unable to locate package¨
21:19<clarence>I updated the system several minutes ago
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21:21<abrotman>what's the package?
21:21<clarence>handbrake-gtk handbrake-cli
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21:24<daedalus>anyone experienced major issues using Debian with a new Radeon?
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