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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-27

---Logopened Sat Dec 27 00:00:59 2014
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05:34<Argure>o/
05:34<Argure>is there any documentation on writing a sysvinit?
05:34<Argure>(and, for jessie, system-ugh-d?)
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05:35<babilen>Argure: There is
05:36<babilen>dpkg: tell Argure -about init script
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05:36<Argure>babilen: thanks
05:36<Argure>is there anything similar for writing a systemd init?
05:36<babilen>Argure: If by "system-ugh-d" you refer to systemd you might want to take a look at systemd.unit(5)
05:36<Argure>making an effort to get my project to be as packageable as I can make it on upstream
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05:40<Argure>babilen: do I need to add a handler for writing away pid files to /var/run or does sysvinit handle this?
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05:44<babilen>Argure: Take a look at the skeleton script and use start-stop-daemon
05:44<Argure>alright, I'll make an attempt :) mind reviewing it in a bit?
05:45<babilen>Just ask in the channel. If I'm around and have something to contribute I will
05:45<Argure>alright, thanks :)
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06:04<galvao>Hi everyone. Did I understood correctly? Jessie was expected to be released this month (December)? Reason I ask: I'm planning a fresh re-installation, but if Jessie is somewhat near it's release date I will, of course, wait. Please note that this is not a "when will it be released???????" type of question. I respect (a LOT) Debian's release policy (It was one of the reasons I've changed into it)
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06:06<Argure>re: earlier; I followed babilen's instructions and cobbled together an init script: https://paste.debian.net/138231/
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06:06<Argure>however, when running $ service swiperproxy start as root; it fails silently: jestefad :: /var/run » service swiperproxy start || jestefad :: /var/run » service swiperproxy status || [FAIL] Proxy.py is not running ... failed!
06:07<babilen>galvao: It wasn't planned to be released in December, but was frozen on November the 5th (remember remember!). What kind of box are you planning to install?
06:07<Argure>I have a log handler in the package; which isn't throwing anything, btw.
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06:09<galvao>babilen: Notebook, 64 bits
06:09<galvao>Dell Inspiron, to be more precise
06:09<Argure>actually scratch that, it's starting fine, just passing status to init doesn't return anything: jestefad :: ~swiperproxy ‹master*› » ps aux | grep Proxy
06:09<Argure>106 3560 4.0 2.1 1638908 10936 ? Sl 11:09 0:00 python /opt/SwiperProxy/swiperproxy/swiperproxy/Proxy.py -c /etc/swiperproxy/proxy.conf
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06:10<babilen>galvao: So, personal machine? I would personally recommend to just install jessie at this point (and to set the default release and include sid in your sources.list too -- /msg dpkg jsm)
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06:12<galvao>babilen: Personal, yes, but also used to work
06:13<Argure>galvao: I've been running jessie for roughly 4 months without any notable issues on a laptop
06:13<galvao>So, once Jessie stable is released I just apt-get dist-upgrade?
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06:13<Argure>for work, you might want to especially consider jessie if your employer uses exchange - the whole reason I upgraded was due to a bug in evolution-ews that wasn't backported to wheezy
06:13<babilen>galvao: That would be the idea, yeah
06:14<babilen>dpkg: tell galvao -about sid faq
06:14<babilen>dpkg: tell galvao -about jsm
06:14<babilen>dpkg: tell galvao -about apt-listbugs
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06:15<babilen>galvao: That should get you started. Not sure if I would recommend installing a minimal wheezy system at this point and to upgrade that to jessie/sid or to install jessie to begin with using the current installer (https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/)
06:16<galvao>babilen: I would feel more comfortable with a fresh install, formatting and all
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06:16<babilen>galvao: Yes, but in that case we recommend(ed) to install wheezy first and to upgrade that. As I said: Due to the fact that the jessie installer might already be perfectly usable (haven't tried it tbh) I'm not sure what to recommend.
06:17<Argure>eugh, I have no idea why case status() is returning not running, when grep shows it is :/
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06:17<galvao>babilen: I see. Thanks, I'll consider all of this
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06:19<galvao>Also, guys, reason I've started this whole thing: I'm having an issue with Wheezy (not saying it's a bug) where it suddenly begins to constantly access the disk and doesn't stop anymore. iotop pins it to gvfsd-metadata and [jdb2/sda1-8]. Any hints on this?
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06:20<galvao>It might have been something I've installed (custom repo or something like that). I'd really like to fix this, if possible, and then just wait for Jessie stable. If I can't fix this I'll just try the whole backup-new install-restore thing
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06:22<babilen>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756205 ? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=706524 ? (other ...)
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06:28<galvao>babilen: probably this one: file:///var/tmp/kdecache-zaphod/krun/7145.0.bugreport.cgi
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06:28<galvao>oops
06:28<galvao>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756205
06:29<bernat>I'm having problems with my audio card when suspend/resume. Should I file a bug to the kernel package?
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06:39<babilen>judd: bug 756205
06:39<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/756205 in gvfs-daemons (closed, fixed-upstream, patch, upstream): «gvfs-daemons: gvfsd-metadata continuously does disk accesses»; severity: serious; opened: 2014-07-27; last modified: 2014-09-29.
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07:04<galvao>babilen: Hey there. I've just solved the issue, in a sort of radical way. I'm using KDE, so I've noticed that ideally I wouldn't have a reason to have gvsf anyway. So, I've simulated purging it, saw that I had a bunch of Gnome apps that didn't made sense anyway and purged the damn thing :D
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07:05<galvao>and of course, now I feel stupid (for having it in the first place) and badass (foir doing what I just did) LOL
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07:06<Argure>I could use some help debugging this init script: https://paste.debian.net/138238/; I have the following issues: 1) it starts the process just fine, but silently, it throws no "OK"; 2) case status returns "FAIL: not running"; 3) case stop does nothing
07:06<Argure>it is writing a pid file just fine
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07:55<LeSpocky>was the recently discovered git client security issue fixed in wheezy or was it not affected?
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08:00<ompaul>LeSpocky: cve number please
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08:01<ompaul>LeSpocky: because the last one I see is 2013
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08:03<peter1138>https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-9390
08:04<peter1138>Seems to be empty :s
08:05<peter1138>http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1853266
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08:05<ompaul>peter1138: so it's recent and maybe doesn't exist
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08:06<ompaul>so it is recent and does exist does not impact debian unless it does :)
08:06<ompaul>i.e. when you have mac or windows clients digging into your git
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08:06<ompaul>peter1138: how did you find it?
08:06<ompaul>my searching foo didn't and I like to think I have some idea
08:06<peter1138>googled for "git windows exploit"
08:07<peter1138>because I had previously heard of it
08:07<ompaul>ahha
08:07<ompaul>thanks
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08:21<awal>Why the color (window appearance) and gtk theme chosen for Kde is applied for xfce, fluxbox and all other WMs?
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08:29<anonymous>salut
08:29<anonymous>e cineva roman
08:29<anonymous>?
08:30<mgv>!ro
08:30<dpkg>Pentru ajutor in limba romana va rugam vizitati #debian-ro pe irc.oftc.net. Romanian users: for help in romanian, please visit #debian-ro on irc.oftc.net.
08:30<anonymous>da
08:30<anonymous>am nevoie de ajutor
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08:30<mgv>/join #debian-ro
08:30<anonymous>ma poate ajuta cineva
08:30<mgv>anonymous: aici se vorbeste doar in engleza / this channel is english-only
08:31<anonymous>mgv:privat
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08:44<anonymous>hello
08:44<anonymous>how to find password to a Facebook page?
08:45<robert>q
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08:46<anonymous>I really need
08:46<seeS>uh
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08:48<abrotman>anonymous: You're asking in the wrong channel
08:48<seeS>i was wondering if i should bother to tell him that
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09:02<justme>any ideea how to fix this error with iptables command ? Bad argument `PREROUTING'
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09:05<seeS>whats the command, i think your table is wrong
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09:05<justme>iptables -t -A PREROUTING -p tcp --destination-port 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 10000
09:06<seeS>missing after -t
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09:06<Ganneff>-t what
09:06<seeS>yeah -t nat or -t mangle
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09:09<justme>f** y thik y forgot to put nat there ...
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09:48<Argure><Argure> I could use some help debugging this init script: https://paste.debian.net/138238/; I have the following issues: 1) it starts the process just fine, but silently, it throws no "OK"; 2) case status returns "FAIL: not running"; 3) case stop does nothing
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09:53<petn-ran1all>Argure: Add '-x' to the shebang and it'll output what steps it runs through.
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09:54<Argure>petn-ran1all: i did, no dice though
09:55<abrotman>no dice for what?
09:55<abrotman>debugging output?
09:55<Argure>yeah, though I derped and set +x rather than -x
09:55<Argure>:D
09:56<Argure>output for case start: https://paste.debian.net/138254/
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09:57<Argure>the verbose output doesn't really tell me much on why this is failing though.
09:57<petn-randall>Argure: And how far did you get debugging it yourself?
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09:57<Argure>I've been banging my head at it for 5 hours :P
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09:58<Argure>my current line of thought is that it's launching Proxy.py but the actual process is the python binary
09:58<Argure>i.e. jestefad :: /etc/init.d » ps aux | grep Proxy
09:58<Argure>106 7631 0.1 2.1 1638892 10948 ? Sl 14:55 0:00 python /opt/SwiperProxy/swiperproxy/swiperproxy/Proxy.py -c /etc/swiperproxy/proxy.conf
09:58<petn-randall>Argure: Look at the output you've pasted us, at no point does it emit 'OK'. Check why it doesn't.
10:00<Argure>petn-randall: I honestly have no idea :P
10:01<abrotman>time to work out why it doesn't
10:01<Argure>it should at least output a starting attempt according to l84
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10:01<Argure>unless $VERBOSE == no but I haven't defined that anywhere
10:03<Argure>other than this I have no idea what is going on.
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10:05<Argure>okay, found that VERBOSE is set in /lib/init/vars.sh
10:07<Argure>so, actually getting output from case start, stop, force-reload, restart, status
10:08<Argure>still leaves case stop and case status not functioning: jestefad :: /etc/init.d » service swiperproxy start || [ ok ] Starting HTTP/HTTPS web proxy: swiperproxy. || jestefad :: /etc/init.d » service swiperproxy status || [FAIL] swiperproxy is not running ... failed!
10:08<Argure>any ideas?
10:08<Argure>I can see the process running just fine in ps
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10:19<petn-randall>Argure: We won't debug that script for you, but we can teach you how to debug it.
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10:19<Argure>that would be great, though the +x output is seriously confusing
10:19<Argure>and I'm not at all familiar with start-stop-daemon
10:19<petn-randall>Argure: It's '-x'.
10:19<Argure>right :p
10:20<petn-randall>Argure: Put your script and the output with '-x' next to each other, and look at every line of the script and correlate it to the output.
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10:24<Argure>petn-randall: I am
10:24<Argure>the problem is, I think it's failing on status_of_proc but I have no clue on how that method works.
10:25<Killian9000>Hello argue
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10:37<Argure>yay
10:37<Argure>found https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/StatusSupport
10:37<Argure>this helps a lot.
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11:01<awal>How to make vlc minimize to systemtray when close button is pressed instead of closing completely?
11:02<Argure>yay, this works: https://github.com/swiperproxy/swiperproxy/blob/master/include/init/sysvinit.sh
11:02<Argure>now for systemd
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12:24<LordBrain>what is tum? if you ask dpkg about wheezy->jessie it says to consider running tum, but when you ask it tum it just tells you stuff about editing the source.list etc, without telling me what 'tum' stands for or means.
12:24<sney>testing-unstable mix
12:24<LordBrain>ah i see
12:25<sney>tum probably isn't actually a good idea right now, post-freeze
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12:26<jose>funcionabilidad
12:26<LordBrain>why is that sney?
12:26<LordBrain>because testing and unstable are getting more and more distant?
12:27<sney>because once jessie releases, mixing it with sid will quickly become dangerous
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12:27<sney>and currently, sid is in a 'slushy' state where not much is changing anyway
12:27<jose>twitter no funciona en debian squeeze
12:27<sney>!es
12:27<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
12:28<awal>jose » #debian-es
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12:38<canaima>hla
12:39<musca>hello canaima
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12:43<awal>Any app I can use with iceweasel and chromium for prevent some websites asking for install audio/video addons?
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12:44<awal>because these addons are generally malwares.
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13:02<root__>hello guys
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14:05<asd>Hello
14:05<asd>I messed up alsa really bad
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14:05<asd>I tried to uninstall pulseaudio
14:05<asd>and now when I run alsamixer
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14:06<asd>I got cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
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14:09<awal>asd, for get alsa working fine you may need these packs libasound2 alsa-base alsa-utils and alsa-oss
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14:10<awal>alsamixer is included alsa-utils I think so
14:11<asd>you are 100% sure I need alsa-oss?
14:12<awal>not mandatory , check the description
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14:15<asd>okay I do not think it is needed
14:16<asd>it is for pcm
14:16<asd>and old soundcards perhaps
14:16<asd>but now I reinstalled libasound2 and alsa-utils
14:16<asd>and I still got the error
14:17<asd>that the mixer is not found
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14:18<awal>try rebooting for have alsa and all its components loaded finely
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14:20<asd>I rebooted like hundreds of times
14:21<asd>well this could be an issue
14:21<asd>no ALSA modules is loaded
14:22<awal>speaker-test works?
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14:24<asd>nope I got errors, hold on..
14:24<asd>http://pastebin.com/wFMXFxw2
14:25<asd>basically no soundcards found
14:25<asd>but...
14:25<asd>http://pastebin.com/hn63mnmE
14:26<asd>DMSG yells something about the snd_hda_codec
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14:26<awal>asd, try purging pulseaudio. and as i said you need liasound2 alsa-base and alsa-utils. then reboot for load alsa modules properly. you may want alsamixergui too
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14:29<asd>got those three okay I will restart
14:29<asd>but the codec thing worry me
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14:43<asd>nope, no avail
14:43<asd>alsamixer still struggles
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14:46<asd>okay
14:46<asd>perhaps I need the realtek stuff
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15:20<gammaleak>I've installed the 3.16 kernel and the latest nvidia drivers via wheezy-backports. However, apt-get constantly wants me to autoremove nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx. I suspect it's a pinning thing, but I don't really know how to deal with it correctly.
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15:23<valdyn>gammaleak: run "apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx"
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15:23<valdyn>gammaleak: or "apt-ge -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx"
15:23<petn-randall>gammaleak: show us the actual output.
15:25<gammaleak>valdyn: That seems to have fixed it. I guess if they get set to manually installed it stops whining. :)
15:26<gammaleak>Thank you!
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17:13<desrt>does anyone have some advice about how to create a list of all packages that are recommended by packages currently installed but not themselves installed?
17:13<desrt>eg: if i installed pkga which recommended pkgb and pkgb was later uninstalled
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17:37<awal>desrt, one way is use show with apt/aptitude or check recommends with synaptic
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20:47<godi>holis tanto tiempo que no combersaba con ustedes y que novedades tienen
20:48<devil>!es
20:48<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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20:54<anonymous>.udp
20:54<anonymous>hey
20:56<anonymous>,
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22:16<marnold>question is there a way to mass remove packages that come from a third party repo
22:17<marnold>i sorta broke my media center
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22:20<marnold>with dmo packages i know i shouldn't have used dmo but i needed a quick fix for something
22:20<marnold>and now it's more broke then when i started
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22:54<marnold>nevermind found a non castostrpic way of doing it
22:54<marnold>someone should write a script
22:55<jordanm>marnold: aptitude remove '~Aarchive_name~i~VTARGET' is probably close
22:57<marnold>jordanm, that's the obvious way but the problem is this is dmo on a media center so because I'm an idiot I allowed it to upgrade nearly every package i care about
22:57<marnold>on that box
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22:58<marnold>and magicly make libary problems
22:58<marnold>so the issue is not so much removing dmo archive packages
22:59<jordanm>marnold: were the dmo sources you added for a different release than you were running?
22:59<jordanm>dmo shouldn't be problematic
22:59<marnold>they shouldn't have been
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23:00<marnold>but I'm an idiot we've established that
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23:01<marnold>so i wouldn't be surprised if that's what actually happened
23:02<marnold>anyway
23:02<marnold>reboot
23:02<marnold>after mad bash scripting
23:04<marnold>YES
23:04<marnold>it works
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23:06<marnold>or at least the part that where i stick in a DVD and it plays does
23:06<marnold>i shall worry about rest tommrrow
23:07<marnold>and maybe I'm not such an idiot after all
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