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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-28

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00:08<oriany>hola
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00:47<cbx_cubic>hell
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00:47<cbx_cubic>hello
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01:40<nyato>JOIN #Anime-Koi
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02:12<cbx_cubic>hello
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02:14<ryonaloli_t>can any of the apt tools parse a repository in a way that's suitable to put in a script? e.g. say i have http://deb.website.com/ as a repo, is there any command which could be given the package name, that repo url, and output the direct url to the .deb file?
02:15<sleser>not sure if its a rite aria to ask this . using a 65 inch tv debian wheezy siting about 25 feet away of the screen font in brouser is small i cant even see with glasis i use kde and is ther way to inlarge the font
02:15<sleser>a normal install font is small for this setup i have.l and fine if in desktop close to scree.
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02:18<sleser>sorry font is smal everywhere not just brouser . not to confuse some one with helping control plus
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02:35<sleser>id also like to make font large on debian boot on and boot off .
02:35<sleser>i like to read thouse mesages
02:35<ryonaloli_t>sleser: add "vga=[value]" to your boot command line. replace "[value]" with whatever vga mode your monitor can use.
02:36<ryonaloli_t>that will allow your fonts to be larger or smaller at boot.
02:36<sleser>i use hdm on this screen
02:36<ryonaloli_t>i don't know what that is.
02:36<sleser>its a 4k screen 65 inch im not sure how large it goes
02:37<sleser>i want to sit 25 feet away and be able to read it at least with glasis
02:38<sleser>show me a link where i can read . you arent explaning enough . i understand a litle . size ok whitch # i dont know this
02:38<sleser>any link is fine to start of to kill boredom
02:38<ryonaloli_t>i don't know any more about it. i only know that the vga= parameter would be used.
02:38<sleser>totaly cool
02:39<sleser>im here until i leave . if not today there always another day
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03:50<James>*yawn*
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03:53<jacobath>funny thing happened
03:53<jacobath>gnome fallback with intel haswell graphics
03:53<James>you got pm spammed by taylor?
03:53<James>:P
03:53<taylor>who made lambos.info ? ? ?
03:54<jacobath>and yes, James
03:54<jacobath>oh how old is this xchat
03:54<James>haha
03:54<jacobath>stock from synaptic lol
03:54<James>try hexchat?
03:55<jacobath>god yes
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03:55<Linnak>Hi, I cant update my system. I have this message: E: http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/contrib Sources is not (yet) available (406 Not Acceptable)
03:57<jacobath>I'm going to freenode server
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03:58<jacobath>Linnak try #debian there
03:58<jacobath>for some help possibly
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03:58<Linnak>ok
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05:06<gius>hi all
05:06<gius>i have chgwall.py running on my system. it's ok; I can't rebember WHERE I invoke it. Any help would be appre'ed
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06:58<root__>hi
06:58<root__>i need help
06:59<mitrom>y-yes you do
06:59<mitrom>Ask yer question sir
06:59<root__>my os s kali linux
06:59<root__>i need beast admin page finder
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07:00<mitrom>jesus christ what?
07:00<root__>i need best admin page finder are you have it ?
07:00<mitrom>speak clearly please i dont can good understand
07:00<root__>i'm hacker
07:01<root__>we hacked
07:01<mitrom>lol
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07:01<mitrom>n-no you're not
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07:01<mitrom>Hackers can, at the very least, speak English
07:01<root__>a new server for .lk
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07:02<root__>i need admin page finder for login admin panel to deface
07:02<root__>web server
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07:03<root__>are you there ?
07:03<mitrom>lol
07:03<valdyn>root__: you're offtopic here, go away
07:04<root__>why ?
07:04<mitrom>Hacking is offtopic
07:04<mitrom>Especially whatever you're doing
07:04<valdyn>kiddie vandalism has got nothing to do with this channel, go away
07:04<mitrom>You sound like a 12 year old who's been showed how to use tracert on windows
07:04<bluewater>not sure what the command is to get root__ (~Dr.zoom@2.178.148.180) banned
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07:05<mitrom>one sec
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07:05<bluewater>!ops
07:05<dpkg>Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
07:06<bluewater>dpkg ops
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07:06<dpkg>Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
07:06<bluewater>[23:02] <root__> i need admin page finder for login admin panel to deface
07:06<bluewater>[23:02] <root__> web server
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07:07<bluewater>grrr
07:07<valdyn>bluewater: its typically used like "!ops <nick>" or "!ops <nick> Harassing me!". Ops can look it up easily.
07:09<bluewater>dpkg !ops root__ wants info to deface a website ''' i need admin page finder for login admin panel to deface[23:02] root__ web server
07:09<dpkg>bluewater: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
07:09<valdyn>bluewater: ! is a shortcut for "dpkg"
07:10<valdyn>!test
07:10<dpkg>Test failed.
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08:13<blackwolf>Hi everyone, I got a little problem with my Debian jessie release. I am trying to copy a CSS protected DVD (which I own) on my harddrive. I have to do that, since my dvd-drive is loud as hell and I can't enjoy watching the movie, while it is running. Does anyone know a good and running way to rip the dvd in debian jessie? I tried AcidRip, Handbrake and even DVD Decrypter under wine. AcidRip...
08:13<blackwolf>...and Handbrake don't want to rip the dvd and DVD Decrypter can't recognize my drive. Can anyone help me with that?
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08:15<blackwolf>Please :)
08:17<abrotman>blackwolf: you probably need libdvdcss
08:18<blackwolf>does that mean, that without it i can't rip the dvd with handbrake and acidrip?
08:20<abrotman>!libdvdcss
08:20<dpkg>libdvdcss is a free software library for unscrambling <CSS>-encrypted DVDs, not to be confused with <DeCSS>. It is not distributed by Debian due to legal concerns. To acquire, see http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html for repository and APT signing key information, then install the libdvdcss2 package.
08:20<abrotman>Just a hunch, not sure how up to date that info is
08:21<blackwolf>thanks...i will try that
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08:30<sql-man>hai
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08:35<sql-man>I am need help
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08:36<abrotman>!ask
08:36<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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08:41<sql-man>I have a problem with Penetration testing;
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08:42<sql-man>I am running Debian version 3.13
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08:47<gammaleak>Maybe this is the wrong place for this question, but I'm attempting to get gpg-agent running. It sounds like it's supposed to "just work" when you install it. But gpg-agent reports that it's not, in fact, running.
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08:48<gammaleak>I can see that there's a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ that's supposed to start it up, but it's not doing so.
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08:48<gammaleak>I do have sort of a non-standard setup. I'm running awesome wm.
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09:13<devil>gammaleak: what exactly does it output if you start it in a shell?
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09:18<proc3sarte>Good morning people!
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09:37<anonymous>salut
09:37<anonymous>hello
09:38<anonymous>#debain-ro
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09:42<cx>My HDD status http://imgur.com/uiLqsnY what should I do? buy a new hdd and replace it?
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09:43<cx>hello, anyone?
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09:47<marnold>cx, you proably should
09:47<marnold>eventually
09:47<marnold>but it isn't going to fail right away
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09:48<cx>I've been replace 6~7 HDDs for my computers (since 2010)
09:48<marnold>depending on the number of reserve sectors the drive has
09:49<cx>I used all HDD brands..
09:49<marnold>it could be quite a long time before it fails
09:49<cx>does a bad PSU cause the frequently bad sectors?
09:50<marnold>power supply unit
09:50<marnold>yes
09:50<mitt>hi guys, on NetworkManager while disconnecting the message "(32) org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.network-control request failed: not authorized" appears. Got something wrong with policy kit probably, it was also with Thunar but solved (unable to mount), and also unable to reboot and shutdown (also like policykit kiddin me), help please:)
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09:50<marnold>that would do it
09:50<cx>will it damage my motherboard?
09:50<mitt>digging out forums couldn't help
09:51<marnold>that i couldn't tell you
09:51<cx>because?
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09:52<mitt>guys?
09:52<ompaul>cx ram is first suspect
09:52<cx>why?
09:52<marnold>mitt, hang on
09:52<ompaul>cx: ram is always the first suspec
09:52<ompaul>t
09:53<mitt>marnold, ok
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09:53<ompaul>cx: I have had more bad ram than cpus and I run circa 80 machines
09:53<ompaul>cx: I have had more bad ram than psus also
09:53<cx>how do I know the ram status?
09:54<ompaul>cx you can start with a memtest
09:54<ompaul>it isn't 100% that it will catch all bad ram but it will catch a lot of it
09:55<ompaul>c
09:55<ompaul>cx: if you have multiple sticks remove 50% of them if you get a failure and see if it still fails
09:55<cx>the BIOS clock reset very frequently in these days
09:55<marnold>mitt, first of all what release of Debian are you running
09:55<ompaul>cx: you can work that out
09:55<ompaul>cx: how old is the box
09:55*ompaul suspects too old
09:55<ompaul>>5years
09:56<cx>The computer was given me in 2010
09:56<mitt>marnold, kinda mix, 3.2 kernel but lots from sid, wheezy, and jessie
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09:56<ompaul>cx: and what year doesthe bios say
09:56<mitt>network-manager and network-manager-gnome are latest
09:56<ompaul>!dontbreakdebian
09:56<dpkg>[dont break debian] https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
09:56<cx>August 2010
09:56<ompaul>mitt ^^^^^^
09:57<ompaul>cx: four year old and it's battery isn't working
09:57<ompaul>replace that battery also
09:57<marnold>mitt don't break debian
09:57<mitt>oh that's not about it
09:57<ompaul>mitt: read that link
09:57<mitt>I read it before
09:57<cx>the motherboard is intel 1156, my god
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09:58<marnold>mitt, if you run a mix
09:58<marnold>bad stuff happens
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09:59<marnold>weird bugs that noone can track down without a Ph.D in Debianolgy
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09:59<mitt>that stuff is a known bug and isn't related to the version of Debian, it's more about that app
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10:00<ompaul>cx: check ram - fix that if it is a problem - replace battery - if you are still in trouble suspect motherboard and or power supply
10:00<ompaul>mitt: running a mix is not good
10:00<mitt>what if I don't like effin systemd but wanna try new software
10:00<ompaul>!frankendebian
10:00<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
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10:00<ompaul>mitt: run stable and find something else to run
10:01<marnold>there is that fork thing
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10:01<ompaul>mitt: if you really don't want to run systemd you are free to fork debian and do the work yoruself
10:01<marnold>Devrun or something like that
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10:01<ompaul>marnold: I suspect that is even more useless a suggestion than I made ;-)
10:02<EmleyMoor>Anyone familiar with how chromium supports webcams, on things that aren't flash? I can use my laptop's webcam to make video calls on Facebook, but my desktop one just sends solid green.
10:02<mitt>ompaul, that's what I'm actually doing, I'm here not to get criticisms but to learn how to deal with bug
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10:02<mitt>okay goodbye
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10:03<christophe>hello
10:03<marnold>ompaul, well i haven't been active on the dev side of things for going on three years now
10:04<marnold>so i don't know what's up with that
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10:05<marnold>but if they have the good devs on the other side of the fork
10:06<marnold>they might have a chance
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10:07<marnold>all i'm concerned about is going back to work in three months
10:08<marnold>to find that our enterprise wide deployment of various Debian releases has been broke by the uncautious upgrade to jessie
10:09<ompaul>marnold: well if they are moving to testing now that is what they are doing. If you have no testing I can't help that situation.
10:10<ompaul>in this day and age a few vms are easy enough to spin up
10:12<marnold>I don't know on a leave of absence
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10:12<ompaul>marnold: well, you could ping them and say don't be insane.
10:13<marnold>i'll do that
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10:13<ompaul>running testing is not a great idea
10:13<ompaul>in production
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10:13<ompaul>unless you have a testing framework to test your testing (ooch but yeah)
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10:14<marnold>yes i know but coperate parents are in the habbit of ordering people to do things
10:15<marnold>on very tight deadlines
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10:15<marnold>and stuff has happened before
10:15<ompaul>marnold: find somewhere else to go :)
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10:16<ompaul>cos frankly if they tell you put your hand in the fire that is not a great suggestion either
10:16<marnold>well i can do what corperate wants without breaking stuff
10:17<marnold>that's one reason why i was hired
10:17<marnold>but I'm on LOA
10:17<marnold>so
10:17<marnold>I might have to unbreak stuff in may
10:18<ompaul>seems to me you are thinking about May too much in advance
10:19<ompaul>the situation that exists on that date will be the situation then
10:19<ompaul>not the one now etc ...
10:19<marnold>yep
10:19<ompaul>I think we have strayed too far into the philosophy of IT to be useful in a help channel feel free to continue in #debian-offtopic
10:20<marnold>ok
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10:53<bleb>How can I change my display manager? I need one that let's me select "run x session script"
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10:58<marnold>what are you running
10:58<bleb>wheezy
10:59<JamesTKirk>breezy
10:59<marnold>display manager?
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10:59<ompaul>bleb: install new manager use gdm / kdm to change it on starting of settion
10:59<ompaul>session
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11:00<bleb>gdm at the moment. I'll give it a go, thanks
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11:12<halfadelic>yo
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11:36<awal>How to know the touchpad type of my laptop via termina?
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11:52<awal>terminal ^
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11:54<ompaul>awal: if it was me I'd try lspci and also lshw you may need to install the latter
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11:54<ormux666>hello
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11:59<awal>ompaul, ok, thanks. Tried with these utilities but no luck. Finally, I found the exact command in debian wiki and it works: "egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps' /proc/bus/input/devices"
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12:00<awal>---» N: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
12:00<awal>:)
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12:01<abrotman>!whats my hardware
12:01<dpkg>You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! If you install lshw, run "lshw -html > myhardware.html" as root and you'll have a nice HTML summation. See also <myram>, <driver locator>.
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12:04<awal>good to know all that abrotman :)
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12:29<desrt>is there any way to get a more up-to-date kernel without building it myself?
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12:29<desrt>linux is already on 3.19-rc1 but even sid is stuck back at 3.16
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12:30<sney>!kernel handbook
12:30<dpkg>The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source.
12:30<desrt>that sounds like "no" :)
12:30<sney>but remember, debian kernels often have patches from newer versions backported. so if you need something newer for a feature, first check if it's actually already there
12:31<desrt>it's not
12:31<sney>then yep, build it yourself. but since the deb-pkg target was added in some 2.6 version this is painfully easy
12:31<desrt>i think i might be able to do a bit of 'backporting' myself
12:32<desrt>i'm building a module (kdbus) that depends on some new symbols but they look 'util' in nature
12:32<desrt>things like converting between timestamp formats
12:32<desrt>i can probably just steal the functions from the newer kernel and copy them into the kdbus module
12:32<desrt>the other big depend there is memfd, but by by installed System.map, it looks like this one was indeed backported
12:33<sney>there you go then.
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12:33<desrt>oh. also apparently experimental has 3.18 someone on another channel mentions
12:34<desrt>that'll do
12:34<sney>,kernels
12:34<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.18.0-trunk-686-pae (3.18-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6)
12:34<sney>indeed there it is
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12:39<desrt>bleh. looks like linux-kbuild in experimental is on 3.17 making the headers for 3.18 uninstallable
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12:43<tone>I want to use two cell phones as two-way radios without using any network. Just direct.
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12:44<desrt>tone: probably possible with wifi or bluetooth. i'd imagine that's more or less not doable via the cell network
12:47<tone>desrt, yes. i've thought about wifi, too.
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12:54<ectospasm>I have a module (arcmsr) that I needed to build from source to support my particular RAID controller (Areca 17d3:1214). I can get it to load with insmod, but "modprobe arcmsr" loads the one that ships with Wheezy
12:54<ectospasm>How do I ensure the one I built loads on boot? Can I provide a full path in /etc/module*?
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12:55<sney>modprobe only searches in /lib/modules/$(uname -r) afaik
12:55<sney>so replace the existing one. if you're never going to use it, there's no harm in that
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12:59<ectospasm>sney: it's in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/extras... when I loaded it on a 686-pae kernel, it loaded the new one I installed with modprobe, but in an amd64 kernel, it's not doing that.
12:59<ectospasm>I will replace it, I just wanted to know if there was a more proper "Debian" way of doing it (mainly for maintainability)
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13:00<sney>well, the more proper debian way would probably involve repackaging the kernel to not include arcmsr.ko, since the debian policy states 2 packages may not 'own' the same file
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13:01<ectospasm>Well, this module was built entirely from source, so there is no apt package for it.
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13:01<sney>(and then you would build a package for your module)
13:03<ectospasm>I'd end up having to rebuild the module with any kernel updates.
13:03<sney>so basically just replace it. it's a fairly special case anyway
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13:03<sney>alternately patch the kernel source to build your module instead
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13:04<ectospasm>Right, less work the quick and dirty way, but oddly more maintainable. One of the reasons I started using Debian (and Ubuntu before it) was to keep from having to patch and rebuild the kernel from source every cycle.
13:05<ectospasm>It seems the vendor's module source works pretty well
13:05<sney>did the vendor use a non-free license? or has it just not gotten to mainline yet
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13:15*desrt hacks up a linux-kbuild-3.17 using equivs and kludges along
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13:21<EmleyMoor>Still trying to get somewhere with a webcam problem... and can't get the offending webcam to work on the non-offending computer at all!
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13:33<EmleyMoor>Am I right in thinking there's an issue with updating pepperflashplugin on wheezy (backports)
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13:35<user_deb>Hello
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13:35<sakax>EmleyMoor: it's as outdated as chromium on wheezy... I think we best apt-purge chromium
13:36<EmleyMoor>sakax: Er, no...
13:36<sakax>and move to google's proprietary chrome
13:37<EmleyMoor>Well... there's that option I guess but I'm not sure I want the hassle.
13:37<sakax>everyone says it's not a security risk, having outdated flash IS a security risk
13:37<user_deb>I encountered a problem please tell me whether I can install on debian 7.7 gnome 2 shell?? and how do I do it?
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13:38<mtn>user_deb: you can't
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13:38<user_deb>why?((
13:38<sakax>as gnome 2 is dating from the stone age
13:39<mtn>user_deb: gnome 2 is no longer supported or available
13:39<sney>you can install MATE from wheezy-backports
13:39<sney>that's supposed to be like gnome 2 though I haven't tried it
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13:40<EmleyMoor>What I was actually meaning is, is there a Flash version beyond which it will not work at all? Will, for example, 16.0.0.235 work on wheezy or will it fail due to library issues?
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13:40<user_deb>ok thanks
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13:41<mtn>EmleyMoor: as far as I know, it will keep on working fine.
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13:43<EmleyMoor>mtn: "It" being? I think I stopped updating at 14.0.0.177 because of a reported issue with this but can't remember where I read it.
13:43<mtn>EmleyMoor: it being pepperflash, the thing you were asking about ;)
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13:44<sakax>EmleyMoor: fyi, http://www.iuculano.it/linux/apt-get-purge-chromium/
13:44<mtn>EmleyMoor: I just installed pepperflash from backports and it is working fine with the very latest version of flash
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13:45<mtn>EmleyMoor: no need to get rid of chromium, at all
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13:45<EmleyMoor>mtn: OK - will try it.
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13:46<sakax>mtn: what's your version? https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
13:47<mtn>sakax: not on stable at the moment, but it was 16 something, the latest available a few days ago
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13:47<sakax>how come we cannot update pepper flash on an active installation? doesnt make sense to keep removing and installing in order to have up-to-date pepper flash
13:48<EmleyMoor>sakax: Can we notL
13:48<EmleyMoor>?
13:48<mtn>EmleyMoor: I think he is mistaken
13:48<sakax>I think I am not, honestlt
13:48*EmleyMoor just DID!
13:48<sakax>honestly*
13:49<EmleyMoor>update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
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13:51<EmleyMoor>I am being asked to try newer Chrome to investigate my Facebook video call problem, but as it is confined to one machine, the built in webcam on the other working fine, I can't see it making a difference
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13:54<sakax>haha that works too :)
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14:21<glym>привет всем
14:21<glym>hi all
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14:38<aron45>Hi all, has anyone installed securecrt on debian?
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14:40<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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16:20<miszka>Hi. Should I use linux0image0686-pae on a Pentium IV grade computer.
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16:20<miszka>I just booted with this kernel, and I ran into a couple of problems.
16:20<miszka>I just booted with this kernel, and I ran into a couple of problems.
16:22<devil>you need to be more specific
16:22<miszka>Ok, sorry, I presented it wrong. Should I use the 3.2 kernel, that I jsut installed, or should I stick to 2.6 kernel?
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16:23<miszka>Just as I installed 3.2 version, and that's the only change I did, gnome seems to have become touch screen oriented.
16:23<miszka>Just as I installed 3.2 version, and that's the only change I did, gnome seems to have become touch screen oriented.
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16:23<devil>3.2 or newer
16:24<miszka>The thing is, I wondAgain i am wrong. What changed is i changed 2.6 kernel to 3.2 and nouveau driver to nvidia legacy.
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16:24<miszka>Btw sorry, but my tty is short a couple of rows and I can't see the bottom of irssi screen.
16:24<miszka>I am using /exec echo " " to scroll the screen up. :p
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16:24<devil>so, what is the problem with 3.2?
16:25<devil>or nvidia?
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16:25<miszka>Well it can be 3.2 or itcan be the proprietary driver. Least important problem is this tty thing. It was okay before last reboot, on 2.6 and novueauauaiy
16:25<miszka>More importantly, xorg is unresponsive.
16:26<miszka>I mean it responds, but there are graphical glitches and it lags a lot.
16:26<miszka>I guess it's the driver rather than kernel? But then I didn't expect the changes in the interface.
16:26<devil>right
16:26<miszka>And that prompted me to suspect kernel changed too much about the way things run on this pc, and might be responsible for most problem.s
16:26<devil>try 3.2 with nouveau
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16:27<miszka>Gonna do just that.
16:27<devil>don't forget top remove the blacklisting for nouveau
16:27<devil>s/top/to
16:28<miszka>The only thing I did myself was creating a config file to pick the nvidia driver. Should I just change nvidia to nouveau there?
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16:28<devil>no, you need to remove all related stuff and the blacklisting
16:29<devil>dpkg -l | grep nvidia
16:29<dpkg>No packages found matching | grep nvidia
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16:29<miszka>lol
16:29<devil>damn bot :)
16:29<miszka>cat " "
16:29<miszka>cat " "
16:29<miszka>cat " "
16:29<miszka>cat " "
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16:30<miszka>So what do I do? REmve all nvidia related packages?
16:31<devil>remove all packages, remove the blacklisting, should be in /etc/modules.d
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16:31<miszka>I think i'll reboot to 2.6 first, to make it easier.
16:31<miszka>It will effectively disable the nvidia.
16:32<devil>yeah, but that should not solve it
16:32<miszka>It will effectively disable the nvidia.
16:32<miszka>It will effectively disable the nvidia.
16:32<miszka>sry/.
16:32<miszka>won't solve the problem but will make it easier to do what you said
16:32<miszka>i can't see the bottom of any tty now xD
16:32<miszka>that realy makes things harder
16:32<miszka>It will effectively disable the nvidia.
16:32<miszka>It will effectively disable the nvidia.
16:32<miszka>that realy makes things harder
16:32<miszka>damn it
16:32<miszka>bye
16:32<devil>:)
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16:33<miszka>(irc equivalent of techno music)
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16:36<miszka>Hey anyways, do You think I will just have to stick to nouveau?
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16:37<devil>no idea, hard to say. you might have to pass on some arguments to the nvidia driver
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16:39<devil>you would have to dive into google and search for your card and the used driver to see if others have the same probs and how to hopefully solve
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16:39<wizzard>somebody in here at the 31c3?
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16:43<miszka>ok, so I simply removed the xorg.conf.d/20 soemthing file that picked nvidia driver and nouveau works on 2.6 kernel, but nothing works on 3.2 and could it be, that the noveau module I have is compiled to work with 2.6?
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16:44<miszka>nouveau is loaded, by the way
16:44<miszka>or at least it appears in lsmod, but so does nvidia
16:44<devil>miszka: look at /etc/modules.d for the blacklist
16:45<devil>you also need to remove all packages related to nvidia
16:45<miszka>no such file
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16:46<miszka>modprobe.d maybe?
16:46<devil>oh, might be
16:46<devil>I use only intel, so not sure
16:46<miszka>I am on intel here too.
16:47<miszka>I have ok i've got one
16:47<miszka>and i have another thing here
16:47<miszka>this pc used to have a radeon gpu
16:47<miszka>there is a leftover file in modprobe.d
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16:50<miszka>Things are a bit of a rollercoaster here.
16:51<miszka>Now that I unblacklisted nouveau and booted 2.6, the tty has a really neat tiny font and a lot of lines.
16:51<miszka>nvidia is not loaded, nouveau is loaded
16:51<miszka>xorg works
16:51<devil>try 3.2
16:51<miszka>will do, see you in a second
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16:54<miszka>okay. the tty has a neat font and gnome works as before. no signs of touchscreen focus
16:54<miszka>makes me wonder, how exactly is the legacy nvidia driver messing with gnome...
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16:58<devil>I use neither one, so no idea :)
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17:26<Erick>Hola
17:26<octal>hola
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17:31<Erick>Son de Venezuela no?
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17:39<devil>!es
17:39<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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17:48<hristo>test
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17:53<hristo_>test
17:54<hristo_>hello
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19:47<shawn>hello. anyone use plasma-netbook?
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19:50<devil>!anyone
19:50<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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