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#debian IRC Logs for 2014-12-30

---Logopened Tue Dec 30 00:00:04 2014
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05:23<jaro>siema mam problem
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05:29<devil>jaro: EN please
05:30<jaro>my en is not very well
05:30<jaro>@ devil can you help me?
05:31<devil>this channel is EN only, you can also try a channel with your native lang
05:31<Deuchnord>jaro, which language do you speak?
05:31<devil>jaro: how am I supposed to know if I can help you?
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05:32<devil>!ask
05:32<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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05:33<Deuchnord>how many bots are there here? oO
05:33<jaro>i have big problem ( my wifi not work ) im i see wifi i write password and click connect the wifi conect and disconet a five secends my english is not verry well and this is a frist instalation of linux studio in my comp acer aspire one d
05:33<jaro><jaro> but my modem 3g in my comp work ok
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05:34<Deuchnord>jaro, what is your native language?
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05:34<devil>jaro: pastebin the output of lspci -nnk
05:35<devil>to paste.debian.net
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05:36<jaro>am from poland
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05:37<Apollo>Linux Studio is not debian
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05:37<Apollo>!studio
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05:37<devil>ups, did not even see that
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05:37<devil>never heard of that distro
05:37<Deuchnord>oh, me either
05:37<jaro>ok have a nice day
05:37<Deuchnord>++
05:37<Apollo>It's Ubuntu Studio apparently
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05:38<Deuchnord>yep, that's what DuckDuckGo said to me
05:38<jaro>ok i connect irc ubuntu
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05:38<devil>jaro: if you are as new to linux as you say, you should pick a big distro like debian, cause it can support you. I am a tech journalist and never heard of linux studio. that tells a story
05:38<Deuchnord>too late, devil :D
05:38<devil>well, too bad :)
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05:39<devil>he left while I wrote
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05:40<Deuchnord>what the hell happened!? oO
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06:27<bart>hi all
06:27<Deuchnord>hi
06:28<bart>I would like to install handbrake on a Wheezy 7.7. I added backports to /etc/apt/sources.lst
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06:29<bart>If you write the command: apt-get install -t-backports wheezy handbrake
06:29<bart>it says that is missing libavcodec54. I see is no longer available in wheezy. From what I saw would be a bug: https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2014/10/msg00081.html
06:29<bart>Is there a solution?
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07:07<devil>compile it yourself maybe
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07:08<devil>with libavcodec55, no idea if that'll work
07:08<devil>the maintainer obviouisly did not react in 2 months
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07:11<jelly-hme>,v libavcodec54
07:11<judd>Package: libavcodec54 on i386 -- wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1
07:11<jelly-hme>,v libavcodec55
07:12<judd>Package: libavcodec55 on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1
07:12<jelly-hme>yeah, that thing needs a rebuild
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07:13<jelly-hme>bart: you can try asking in #debian-backports channel what can be done next
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07:13<bart>thanks jelly-hme
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08:45<bart>is there a guide to create a package for debian from source?
08:46<petn-ran1all>bart: You can ask in #debian-mentors, they'll surely help you get started.
08:46<another_mike>bart, https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian
08:49<Deuchnord>got shocked because of an RJ45 cable... That hurts :'(
08:52<bart>thanks
08:52<mitrom>ya
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09:04<awal>How to check the latest wheezy version via terminal?
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09:05<awal>I mean the latest available version
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09:07<petn-randall>awal: 'apt-get update' followed by 'apt-get upgrade' will tell you if you have the most recent packages.
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09:12<awal>petn-randall, yeah, thats obvious :) But I thought that there some utility like 'rmadison' for check the whole version
09:12<mtn>awal: lsb_release -a
09:13<petn-randall>awal: What new info do you want to get from it?
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09:17<awal>petn-randall, just curious. I have the 7.7.0. just curious if it was possible to check via terminal in there is a major version of debian stable without having to run apt or go to the web like one can do for normal packages with rmadison.
09:17<awal>mtn, :)
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09:19<petn-randall>awal: Ah, I see your point. Don't know the answer then.
09:21<awal>petn-randall, no prob. thats no really important question :)
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09:23<another_mike>you can check the version (forth row) of release file (ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/Release)
09:23<another_mike>or the second here (ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/ChangeLog)
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09:41<awal>another_mike, yeah, that link show the desired info puting it in a web browser. how to get same info with it in terminal?
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09:43<Cahoeci>awal: You could do something like this: curl -s ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/Release | grep "^Version:"
09:45<awal>another_mike, wget does the job using that link, ok. thanks. but it's more job then updating system :P thanks anyway :)
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09:47<awal>Cahoeci, great. the command shows exactly the current version. it was what I was looking for. thanks :)
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09:49<another_mike>awal, curl -r 0-99 -vs ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/Release 2>&1 | grep Version | awk '{print $2}'
09:50<another_mike>it will download only the head of the file
09:50<awal>another_mike, yeah. works too :) thanks
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10:01<daemonkeeper>Is anybody using Chromium with Pepper Flash plugin? Is there a way to get rid of the URL in the status bar when playing videos in full screen? That's very annoying and overlaps with video playback control elements :|
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10:05<Deuchnord>daemonkeeper, I don't have any URL bar with Chromium and Pepper Flash with a video in full screen :/
10:05<daemonkeeper>on the upside that means this must be configurable
10:05<daemonkeeper>Are there any settings?! I didn't find them?
10:06<Deuchnord>don't think there is any settings :/
10:06<daemonkeeper>That's strange oO
10:06<awal>daemonkeeper, I confirm your issue. same problem here
10:06<Deuchnord>on which site do you have this problem for instance?
10:06<daemonkeeper>Oh, and yeah, I use a recent Chromium
10:06<daemonkeeper>i.e. Jessie/Sid
10:07<Deuchnord>I use Jessie :/
10:07<daemonkeeper>Deuchnord: All of them, it's a plugin/browser thing apparenty.
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10:07<Deuchnord>ok ^^
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10:12<daemonkeeper>ah well https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/fDfQtszKk-A
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10:15<daemonkeeper>and https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=380005
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10:16<daemonkeeper>And yes, obviously using Adobe's plugin instead of Pepper does not work anymore.
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10:20<brunozerodb>hi
10:21<awal>since version 34 + adobe flash doesn't work with chromium
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10:21<Deuchnord>you can use Pepperflash, awal ;)
10:21<daemonkeeper>Yes, hence you rely on pepper.
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10:21<daemonkeeper>And that one has above bug ;)
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10:23<awal>the issue you referred (url in ststus bar) only happens in some web sites
10:23<daemonkeeper>Apparently on all where I watch videos then :>
10:24<awal>not here
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10:24<Deuchnord>I never had this issue :/
10:24<awal>Deuchnord, are u using the latest pepper?
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10:25<Deuchnord>using the latest in Jessie's repos
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10:25<awal>Deuchnord, pepper isn't in repos, there is only the plugin for install/update the pepper
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10:27<Deuchnord>ah
10:27<awal>run "update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --status && update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install" and see
10:27<daemonkeeper>or better don't :p
10:28<awal>Deuchnord, ^
10:28<awal>thats a choice...
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10:29<Deuchnord>the day when all the website will have abandonned Flash, yep
10:29<daemonkeeper>It's approaching.
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10:29<awal>hopefully
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10:36<blaisepaquier>hi
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10:37<dysfunctional>hai guy
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10:38<blaisepaquier>i’m installing wheezy on a powerpc mac
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10:41<pablo>hello all
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10:42<karvas>i need help: when I debug in eclipse my whole system gets stuck (like a freeze), I'm using gnome classic on debian 7.7
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10:43<karvas>I can still open a console window by using my keyboard shortcut and kill java, which resolves the freeze, but this happens all the time
10:43<pablo>i need help about exim 4.80 : it don't accept ingoing mail ( error 550 )
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10:48<egg>Has anyone succesfully configured their thinkpad t440 touchpad with debian?
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10:53<dysfunctional>how would i go about putting debian on a Samsung Galaxy S tablet?
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10:55<rod>what is this kernel module used for? powernow_k8
10:56<rod>whats the impact about to remove it from a production server?
10:56<peter1138>power saving features
10:57<rod>mmm
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10:57<rod>with a new kermel 3.2.0-4
10:57<rod>this module was making so much noise
10:57<rod>in the output
10:57<rod>because some kind of kernel bug
10:58<rod>many people recommend to remove the module from the kernel
10:58<rod>so i think i gonna do this
10:58<rod>one question
10:58<rod>i started from an older kernel version
10:58<rod>2.6 something
10:58<rod>how i could remove this module but in the new kernel?
10:59<rod>what i'm not sctually using?
10:59<rod>actually
11:00<rod>or should i start with the new kernel?
11:00<rod>in order to remove this module?
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11:01<jelly-hme>rod: it's used for frequency scaling/power reduction on, as the same suggests, AMD cpus
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11:02<vrkalak>the Debian Dev-Team has decided to put kernel 3.16-0.4 as default in Debian-8 Jessie
11:02<jelly-hme>rod: if you can afford downtime, you might try a kernel from backports and see if it works for you
11:02<jelly-hme>!tell rod about bdo kernel
11:03<vrkalak>!bpo
11:03<dpkg>backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>.
11:03<egg>I do not know if this question is relevant; however, are their conditional statements in synaptics?
11:03<jelly-hme>!tell rod about wheezy-backports
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11:04<vrkalak>!wheezy-backports
11:04<dpkg>Selected packages intended for the "Jessie" (8.0) release of Debian but recompiled for use with "Wheezy" (7.x) can be found in the "wheezy-backports" repository. Note that wheezy-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>.
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11:06<jelly-hme>rod: if you want to just not use that kernel module, read /msg dpkg blacklist and maybe /msg dpkg blacklist initramfs
11:07<pablo__>hello
11:07<jelly-hme>hi there
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11:07<rod>thank you, im reading about all this :-)
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11:30<rod>interesting, this powernow_k8 is already blacklisted
11:30<rod>in the server
11:30<rod>however is loaded after reboot following cat /proc/modules
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11:30<rod>i guess all .conf giles inside /etc/modprobe.d are loaded of course
11:31<rod>any ideas?
11:31<dysfunctional>anyone have a suggestion of a very secure and anonymous VPS provider for a debian based system?
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11:35<rod>what you mean by secure and anonymous? what are you exactly expecting?
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11:36<lostatwork>dysfunctional: I personally use http://debian-hosting.info/ not sure how anonymous they are though or if they could accomodate your needs
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11:38<dysfunctional>I don't know much about them but preferably what I'd expect in a VPN provider no logs kept etc
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11:39<dysfunctional>I'm not really sure that even applies but I don't want any kind of monitoring or one that'll hand over my information easily
11:39<retrospectacus>vps or vpn?
11:39<dysfunctional>vps
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11:41<dysfunctional>looking at a list for debian but I'm not sure which one is most "secure" :P
11:41<rod>there is many hosting providers where they don't have access at all to the servers
11:42<rod>in addition you could encrypt disks
11:42<rod>etc
11:42<rod>any bare metal server should work
11:42<dysfunctional>I do encrypt my disks already
11:43<dysfunctional>I just need to know which ones don't have any access, I'm not really sure how to word that in google'
11:44<rod>if you rent a bare metal server
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11:44<rod>then you access trough remote or idrac console
11:44<rod>isntall everything and crypt your datas
11:44<rod>they wont have access
11:45<rod>take a look for exmaple to softlayer => bare metal servers
11:45<dysfunctional>alright thanks for the advice
11:46<rod>anyway i think over aws and other cloud providers you wont have any problem
11:46<rod>vm are usually not accessible for operations teams without credentials
11:46<rod>as far as i know
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11:49<dysfunctional>not on a vm? I probably am interpreting what you're saying wrong though :P Thanks for the advice I'll research that
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11:51<rod>bare metal is a pyshical server
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11:51<rod>under my point of view this is much safe
11:51<rod>because you take control of everything
11:52<rod>then if you want a vm
11:52<rod>i think any not managed service
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11:52<rod>like dedicated vps
11:52<dysfunctional>im trying to set up a vpn with port forwarding on the vps
11:52<rod>shouldn't have access to the os
11:52<rod>vps = virtual private server?
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11:53<dysfunctional>this is all good to know, I didn't research my VPN very well and regret it trying not to make that mistake again
11:53<dysfunctional>yeah
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11:55<xubuntu>hiiiiiiiiii
11:55<xubuntu>hi
11:55<dysfunctional>hola
11:56<xubuntu>testing out my new virtual machine
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11:56<xubuntu>Does anyone wanna troll Microsoft Technical Support Scammers?
11:57<dysfunctional>:) I'm in the process of making live cds of every Linux distro I can get my hands on I am so glad I ditched windows
11:57<dysfunctional>totally lol
11:57<xubuntu>Got a call from them yesterday from this number:
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11:59<dysfunctional>fun times trolling those calls
11:59<xubuntu>yup
11:59<xubuntu>so annoying so i set up a vm
11:59<Deuchnord>xubuntu, that should be forbiden to have this kind of pseudonym here :D
11:59<dysfunctional>lol right xD
11:59<xubuntu>the default username the system gave me'
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12:01<xubuntu>why do vm make my computer so slow
12:01<dysfunctional>use a lot of resources
12:01<xubuntu>ah
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12:02<dysfunctional>what's your primary OS
12:02<xubuntu>do you think i can troll them with a VM XUbuntu?
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12:03<egg>I'm regretting installing a distribution on my laptop. What laptops do you all current use?
12:03<dysfunctional>I think they can be trolled period if you just pretend you're on windows
12:04<dysfunctional>i use an alienware it wasn't at all made for what I use it for - it was windows 7 for gaming alone xD
12:04<xubuntu>Is it possible to get a IP address from Teamviewer? The software they are always using to scam other people
12:04<egg>I'm using a thinkpad t440, and configuring the clickpad with debian has become pain.
12:04<dysfunctional>I love the nice hardware but completely unnecessary to pay that much if you're just using linux
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12:05<egg>I'm thinking of returning this laptop x.x
12:06<egg>, and getting the older model like a t420, or t430 because at least it has discrete buttons, rather than one giant button.
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12:08<dysfunctional>I am curious as I am new to Linux but Debian is my only OS (/distro/whatever the correct terminology is) why do people like older hardware for it?
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12:08<dysfunctional>I really have no choice but 1 laptop at the moment but it's 2 years old and was top of the line at the time
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12:13<rfreeman-w>dysfunctional, yo like making linux distros/livecds? We sure could use some help at mempo.org
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12:14<pkrzywicki>dysfunctional: "if you are using just linux " what else are you using on your laptop
12:14<pkrzywicki>mine is kind of high spec and I run debian on it all the way
12:14<dysfunctional>nothing just linux and some command line programs in it
12:14<pkrzywicki>you mean pure console
12:14<pkrzywicki>?
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12:15<dysfunctional>not sure what that means literally I am very new to this\
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12:15<noname001>so "just linux" statemen is a bit heavy
12:15<noname001>:)
12:16<dysfunctional>I got really mad at being limited with windows one night and decided to get rid of it, best choice I ever made but I'm still learning for sure
12:16<noname001>statement*
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12:16<noname001>anyway Im sure you wil enjoy this a lot
12:16<noname001>good fn
12:16<noname001>fun*
12:16<dysfunctional>:)
12:17<dysfunctional>linux is the most fun I've had on a computer evar :D
12:17<dysfunctional>I do not desire to have any form of windows ever again
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12:23<dysfunctional>I am indeed liking what I see on this website
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13:08<dysfunctional>Ahhh there's so many VPS and I have no clue which fits my needs the best as I get different choices on every website showing them
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13:09<TheSnide>dysfunctional: get the cheapest one.
13:09<rfreeman-w>dysfunctional, get the one that takes payment in bitcoin
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13:10<dysfunctional>cheapest is not my concern, but I do want 1 that accepts bitcoin
13:10<rfreeman-w>and seems trusted (if you aim for anonymity), there was the one run by the pirate bay guys afair
13:10<TheSnide>cheapest+bitcoin.
13:11<rfreeman-w>dysfunctional, if they do not take *coins, then you have 0 security (banksters will give your payment details to authorities)
13:11<dysfunctional>anonymity is my primary concern, which one was that?
13:11<rfreeman-w>well maybe not 0, but.
13:12<TheSnide>or, root an innocent vps. cheap & anonymous ;)
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13:12<rfreeman-w>dysfunctional, for something approaching real security, use also Tor (e.g. from the VPN connection), also look into i2p and freenet. Also you might be intersted in this debian-based / for-debian (yey, ontopic) project: http://mempo.org - see deb.mempo.org or ask #mempo to get it running on debian (best start install in 8 hours, there is a change in install script being written now afaik)
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13:16<dysfunctional>I do use tor
13:17<dysfunctional>I was looking over mempo and liking what I saw as well
13:17<blast007>dysfunctional: from what I recall, some/most OpenVZ-based VPS may not support running OpenVPN, and instead you'd want to look for a VPS using Xen or KVM (but do some research to confirm this)
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13:18<dysfunctional>i appreciate all the advice you guys :)
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13:19<rfreeman-w>dysfunctional, neat. We will be needing people, even users, to test stuff, if you could join us on #mempo that would be nice. We will support more of software for debian then just the kernel, soon
13:19<blast007>(and by KVM I mean 'Kernel-based Virtual Machine', not 'Keyboard Video Mouse')
13:20<mitrom>lek
13:20<mitrom>lel
13:20<dysfunctional>ha
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13:36<awal>I just finished installing a minimal debian (wheezy) system, without DE, via wifi and now I want to continue installing only packs I need but I have no access to wired connection (internet cable). Is there a way for connect to wifi being in tty or editing the network interfaces and make manual changes is the only solution?
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13:40<awal>Usually I edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment what is there (2 lines: auto lo & iface lo inet loopback) and insert the following 4 lines: auto wlan0, iface wlan0 inet dhcp, wpa-ssid ..., wpa-psk...). I'm doing good or there is another solution/way?
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13:43<awal>And when i finish installing what i want I usually install wicd and edit again /etc/network/interfaces; I uncomment the default content and remove the lines I added. It works for me, but I wonder if I'm doing good and if there is another way.
13:43<blast007>awal: I'd leave the 'lo' interface definition there and just append the wifi interface information to that file
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13:44<awal>blast007, ok. Thanks
13:45<awal>i really never understood in a human way what lo and loopback really mean
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13:45<blast007>when/if you get a GUI, you may choose to use a graphical tool to configure your wireless (at which point you would remove/comment the wifi interface from that file)
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13:47<awal>blast007, yeah. I'm proceeding like that because I want have a pure openbox & fluxbox debian system
13:47<retrospectacus>awal: it is a way for networking applications on the same machine to communicate. Simplest example a web server and browser
13:47<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell awal about lo
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13:49<awal>retrospectacus, ok. thanks
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14:13<blaisepaquier>hi
14:14<retrospectacus>hi
14:14<blaisepaquier>could someone help me about debian ppc ? I installed it but I cannot set up a desktop environment
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14:20<rfreeman-w>blaisepaquier, what error messages are you getting? tried googling them?
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14:20<musca>blaisepaquier: which is your preferred desktop environment?
14:20<blaisepaquier>yes, I had this message before : make sure there is not another server running
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14:22<rfreeman-w>maybe he startx instead using proper login in already running server
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14:27<user>Hallo
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14:28<Guest256>Wie gehts?
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14:31<user01>what am i supposed to install for flash support, pepperflash or flashplugin ?
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14:32<petn-randall>user01: pepperflash is for chromium, flashplugin-nonfre is for iceweasel.
14:33<user01>petn-randall, can i install both?
14:33<petn-randall>user01: Sure.
14:33<user01>petn-randall, ok i installed both both it doesnt appear to be working in either, let me check
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14:34<King>Hallo
14:34<petn-randall>!doesnt work
14:34<dpkg>"Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
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14:34<user01>petn-randall, it says it is not installed
14:34<petn-randall>user01: Did you restart the browser after installation?
14:34<user01>petn-randall, the browser
14:34<user01>petn-randall, yeah
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14:35<rfreeman-w>petn-randall, is it possible to view flash with something that is not installed as root, I do not want any non-debian, non-free, Adobe made software running as root. I will use flash from just 1 user
14:35<mtn>user01: what says it is not installed?
14:36<user01>mtn, https://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ says the plugin is not supported in chrome
14:36<petn-randall>rfreeman-w: the flash plugin doesn't run as root ...
14:36<mtn>rfreeman-w: just because it was installed by root, doesn't mean it will run as root. if it is started by the user,it won't be run as root
14:37<mtn>user01: how did you install pepperflash?
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14:37<user01>mtn, aptitude install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
14:37<mtn>user01: are you using jessie?
14:38<user01>mtn, update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
14:38<mtn>user01: are you using jessie or wheezy + backports?
14:38<user01>mtn, jessie
14:39<mtn>user01: and chromium from the debian repos?
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14:40<user01>mtn, yes
14:40<user01>mtn, well chrome
14:41<mtn>user01: chrome is not in the debian repos and comes with flash included. maybe you should use chromium, instead ;)
14:41<onon>hey guys, does anybody have experience with installing git > 1.8 on squeeze?
14:41<user01>mtn, ok well iceweasel isnt working either
14:42<mtn>user01: they both work fine for me. perhaps you have something wrong with your .mozilla folder. try renaming it and starting iceweasel again.
14:43<rfreeman-w>mtn, petn-randall: the install scripts run as root, do any part of them run any part of Adobe written software still as root?
14:43<retrospectacus>onon: no. > 1.8 is available in wheezy-backports. squeeze is not supported.
14:43<mtn>rfreeman-w: I already answered that
14:44<rfreeman-w>mtn, you seem to say that the program, if run by user, will run as user (that is obvious since it's not SUID). But does the post-install or pre-install script run any of Adobe software like maybe after doing cp and mkdir and all they are doing some /usr/adobe-installer --init or somethig (no idea)
14:45<mtn>rfreeman-w: if you are using the debian package manager, no problem. if you are running random scripts found on the internet, we have no idea what it is doing.
14:46<awal>user01, clear your mind https://wiki.debian.org/Flash https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer/Installing
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14:47<rfreeman-w>mtn, it could be a case with software from debian package, that doing apt-get install foo will result in some software that is part of foo, e.g. foo-setup.bin being run, with root privileges, after doing apt-get install foo. I do not know if any package uses that currently, or does flash. Did you actually checked the sources of flash post install to be sure it does not?
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14:48<user01>mtn, in chromium this test page does not show shockwave video either https://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
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14:48<mtn>rfreeman-w: did you check the source? if you are so worried, you should do so.
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14:49<rfreeman-w>mtn, I wanted to avoid if you did :) well apparently none of us did :(
14:49<petn-randall>rfreeman-w: the pre/postinst scripts are provided by Debian. Nothing from Adobe runs as root, unless you run your browser as root ...
14:50<user01>i just see a jigsaw puzzle piece and this plugin not supported
14:50<petn-randall>user01: Can you show us the output of 'apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree'?
14:51<user01>yes, petn-randall yes . . .or do you mean the pepper plugin?
14:51<petn-randall>user01: That too, yes. Does the flash plugin in iceweasel work?
14:52<onon>retrospectacus is there any way building it from source? I've tried a few times but still get a ton of errors
14:52<onon>( http://pastebin.com/PBzYDtTr )
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14:53<blast007>user01: shockwave is different than flash
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14:55<user01>blast007, oh i thought it was shockwave flash swf
14:56<blast007>nope (though the names are sometimes confusing.. I think flash is sometimes called "shockwave flash")
14:56<mtn>user01: test your flash: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
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15:00<rfreeman-w>petn-randall, thanks
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15:01<user01>mtn, page is unresponsive when i go to it
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15:01<user01>mtn, browser asks me to kill
15:01<mtn>user01: did you ever try renaming your .mozilla folder and then starting iceweasel?
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15:03<user01>mtn, iceweasel works now -- i was looking on the shockwave on that one but the link above works in iceweasel
15:03<mtn>user01: ok, good
15:03<user01>chromium is good now too . . . just need to figure out what is wrong with chrome then i guess
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15:04<blast007>or just get rid of chrome and use chromium
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15:10<retrospectacus>onon: you may try backporting it to squeeze from sid
15:10<retrospectacus>dpkg: tell onon about simple sid backport
15:11<retrospectacus>judd: checkbackport git --torelease squeeze --fromrelease sid
15:11<judd>Backporting package git in sid→squeeze/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using squeeze, squeeze-backports, virtual.
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15:12<retrospectacus>The robot says it's possible but no guarantees. You should upgrade to wheezy. Squeeze is no longer supported.
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15:20<RoyK>hi all. I get this "failed to setup ibs -22" when trying to boot debian on this AMD system. It worked during installation and with an older kernel. It's a home server, and I've tried to disable powersaving without getting any further. Any ideas?
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15:29<rfreeman-w>RoyK, try toggling/disabling other BIOS features, or find proper "safe" flags and append to boot kernel options by editing the boot menu on booting
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15:37<RoyK>rfreeman-w: tried all I could find in bios...
15:38<RoyK>rfreeman-w: what sort of kernel flags would you suggest?
15:40<rfreeman-w>RoyK, apic
15:40<rfreeman-w>RoyK, https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
15:41<rfreeman-w>RoyK, and iommu and ecc if you have ecc hardware
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15:41<rfreeman-w>RoyK, also try without the "quiet" option maybe it will show more info
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15:43<RoyK>it didn't. will try without iommu (although I'd like that, perhaps it works better in a backported kernel)
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15:44<rfreeman-w>RoyK, apic seems to be a common problem
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15:46<RoyK>the wierd thing is that it worked well with my setup until I upgraded the kernel
15:46<RoyK>no ecc on this system
15:47<RoyK>and apic=something seems to be x86-32, this is -64
15:48<RoyK>and acpi is how disks are dealt with these days AFAIK
15:49<RoyK>without iommu, the bootup loops through detecting harddisks and gives unintelligable errors on the console
15:51<rfreeman-w>strange... hard to tell, try also #kernel and reporting the problem in detail to LKML
15:51<rfreeman-w>RoyK,
15:52<RoyK>rfreeman-w: well, it doesn't seem to be a kernel issue not fixed, it seems to be something not fixed in debian. seems to be fixed in RHEL6.4, which is rather old
15:52<RoyK>also, this worked with the older debian installation
15:54<RoyK>so, question is, how can I install an older debian? I tried from USB without networking, but it still failed
15:54<RoyK>that is, it works well with the installation, just not when it boots up afterwards
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15:56<peter1138>RoyK, ahci isn't acpi
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15:59<valdyn>!apic
15:59<dpkg>APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller) is a more intricate Programmable Interrupt Controller (PIC). It contains a magnitude more outputs and much more complex priority schemas. One of the best known APIC architectures, the Intel APIC Architecture, is now replacing the original 8259A PIC in newer x86 PCs. See also <noapic>.
15:59<rfreeman-w>!noapic
15:59<dpkg>From the Linux Kernel Parameters documentation (<kernel-params>): noapic - [SMP,APIC] Tells the kernel to not make use of any IOAPICs that may be present in the system.
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16:00<RoyK>noapic etc, no cigar. tried to clock down the cpu as well, still nothing
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16:02<valdyn>RoyK: youre not telling us the error message you got.
16:03<RoyK>well, to be honest, I don't see any. I saw the initial one from the kernel, failed to setup ibs -22, but that doesn't seem relevant
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16:03<RoyK>the hangup completes after it has detected its devices, disks
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16:03<RoyK>although the installer finds them without issues
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17:01<stevenpdale9>Hello.
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17:27<madez>Hello. I just installed Debian Testing. My root partition is on a btrfs raid0 with 2 underlying devices. Both devices are encrypted with the same password. How can I make Debian ask for the password and encrypt both devices with it?
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17:29<madez>I want Debian to ask at boot. Right now it just asks for one, the one i specified as root partition during installation and then fails to boot because it can't mount the btrfs raid0 without the other device.
17:29<acald3ron>madez, go to #debian-next
17:29<madez>Okay!
17:29<madez>Thanks.
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17:30<tft>Hi folks, I'm getting a "E: Some packages could not be authenticated" error from apt-get when attempting to update a squeeze-lts box. The only info I can find online is to update the debian-archive-keyring package, which I've done. Any ideas? Error log: http://pastebin.com/dpLGbwQz "apt-key list" output: http://pastebin.com/x0RXELtp sources.list: http://pastebin.com/pkL15dtc
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17:48<hillhopper>My mainboard will run both i386 and AMD64. Is either a better choice?
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17:48<mtn>hillhopper: I would choose 64, but not really super important
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17:49<hillhopper>thanks
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17:50<dvs>hillhopper: Unless you have less than 4GB of RAM, I'd choose the amd64 version
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17:50<twhing>Hello. I have a question, if somebody could answer me please
17:51<twhing>It is a good idea to mark all packages as automatic installed? Even the important ones?
17:51<hillhopper>I have more RAM
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17:51<dvs>twhing: Why the heck do you want to do that?
17:52<dvs>twhing: I'd say no
17:52<stevenpdale9>I have a 1st gen Mac Pro that has a 32 bit kernel but can run 64 bit applications even with efi32
17:52<stevenpdale9>and it has 18gb ram
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17:52<twhing>cleaning the unwanted ones and to make sure that when a "important" package is not required anymore because, I don't know..
17:52<hillhopper>htop states: 3966 MB
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17:53<dvs>well, that technically less than 4GB
17:53<hillhopper>I see that now
17:53<hillhopper>si, i386 maybe?
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17:54<dvs>but I'd still choose amd64
17:54<stevenpdale9>might be reserved by bios
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17:55<stevenpdale9>i still can't decide what linux to put on this eee pc 4g surf
17:55<hillhopper>the cpu is a 966 quad core
17:55<stevenpdale9>any help?
17:55<hillhopper>I started with debian sarge
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17:56<Jane-PC>32bits kernel with 18gb ram ? just why.. ?
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17:56<stevenpdale9>Jane-PC, needed for virtualbox vms
17:56<hillhopper>way before this current board
17:56<stevenpdale9>it's my vm machine
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18:01<Jane-PC>stevenpdale9, r ur drivers 64 bits ?
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18:01<stevenpdale9>unfortunately not
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18:01<stevenpdale9>but my xeons make up for it~
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18:02<Jane-PC>thus it won't work ^^
18:02<stevenpdale9>I can run multiple vmss
18:02<stevenpdale9>**vms
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18:03<stevenpdale9>this eee has a intel celeron m 900mhz
18:03<stevenpdale9>underclocked to 630.113 mhz
18:03<stevenpdale9>512 kb l2 cache
18:03<stevenpdale9>what distro should I put on it?
18:04<stevenpdale9>2017mb ram
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18:05<stevenpdale9>64mb video ram
18:05<stevenpdale9>hint: it can still run gnome3
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18:12<stevenpdale9>any helpies? D:
18:12<stevenpdale9>it's i686
18:12<stevenpdale9>32 bit
18:12<stevenpdale9>if that helps
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18:14<retrospectacus>your question is "what distro"?? The answer to that is always Debian
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18:17<stevenpdale9>debian standard? (cli?) or debian lxde and remove lxde, use openbox
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18:38<fryguy_>My current and favorite is crunchbang. It's really barebones and takes a lot to get the full power out of it but, it is super fast and customizable. Also debian based.
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19:06<dysfunctional>so i was discussing this earlier but I want to combine my Kali with Mempo, both Debian based but dif kernels, what would be a good way to go about building something like that?
19:07<oldlaptop>!basedondebian
19:07<oldlaptop>dpkg: based on debian
19:07<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
19:08<dysfunctional>damn okay lol
19:08<dysfunctional>I can respect that :)
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19:11<Infiltrator>futurist is ten years out of date. Somebody should ping him.
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19:12<oldlaptop>dysfunctional: if you're trying to make a customized live system, I can point you at live.debian.net
19:12*RoyK is trying not to knock his head too much at the wall
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19:15<dysfunctional>thanks I'll check it out
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19:31<hillhopper>the world has come to this
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21:12<Guest285>hello everyone!
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21:36<stelicho>hi all so I have a Huion H420 drawing tablet and I can't use the digimend drivers because they require 3.5 Kernel and I'm on stable. The device is visable in dmesg and I'm trying to run it into virtualbox but can't because it doesn't show up. What are some things I can do to connect the device in the debian host so that it can pass it along to guests?
21:37<ottah>So you need to the virtualbox extension pack installed, and your user needs to be a member of vboxusers
21:39<stelicho>I got both of those down, also it doesn't even work as a pointer in the host debian system but it does in Fedora, which has the digimend built in
21:39<ottah>You can also get the 3.12 kernel by installing it from wheezy-backports
21:40<stelicho>wont that break my system?
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21:41<ottah>https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/kernel/linux-image-amd64
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21:41<ottah>Backports is intended to allow stable to take advantage of new packages.
21:42<stelicho>Oh I see now, ok I will try that thank you
21:42<ottah>No problem.
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21:47<awal>stelicho, if you did things like described here https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox your vbox should run just fine
21:49<awal>also you may want to try kvm. it's faster :) https://wiki.debian.org/KVM It's well integrated in debian and no extra modules are needed
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23:31<hattrick>If I wanted to get a laptop with driver support, where would I look?
23:33<dvs>hattrick: http://www.linux-laptop.com/
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23:40<ottah>I also look here, as usually if it works in ubuntu it will work with most of the time in debiaan http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
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23:48<hattrick>lol it's almost the same thing these days. A few months ago when I looked in debian's settings GUI it said Ubuntu instead of Debian
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23:52<hattrick>Is Wi-Fi support better these days? I was annoyed by Intel mini-PCIe cards getting 120 Mbps in Windows 7 and only 15 Mbps in Debian.
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23:58<hattrick>People were recommending that I disable 802.11n, but that's a pyrrhic solution.
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