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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-01-01

---Logopened Thu Jan 01 00:00:07 2015
00:00<snowman_>HAPPY FUCKING NEW YEAR CUNTS DID YOU JOIN MY NETWORK YET?????
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00:02<Buntunub>have a very bloody new year all
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01:07<bugtraq>hi.......
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01:49<abou>test
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02:45<Deuchnord>Happy new year!
02:52<frlttrwrd>If I have multiple sound cards how do I select which one is used?
02:56<ChoiKyuSang>bios
02:56<ChoiKyuSang>select in bios
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03:30<sleser>is there any addons for flash player to ajust aspect ratio of the picture
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03:42<sleser>is there a way to use a switch instead of router ?
03:44<sleser>my switch dosnt wants to work without a router .
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03:46<peter1138>Well, a switch switches, and a router routes...
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03:47<sleser>tell me fios or cable ?
03:48<sleser>i tryed couple routers at my place i dont get what internet promising 30 mbps
03:48<sleser>i d ont want to go buy a new router gigabit for 2 300 dolars
03:49<sleser>very poor speed with timewarner its a ny city not a cave
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03:50<do-while>Hi!
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03:51<peter1138>hat?
03:51<do-while>I would know how to take a look to the source code and, if i can, try to help to patch some rc bugs
03:51<peter1138>What?
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03:53<do-while>hello? is someone there? XD
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03:54<Deuchnord>:/
03:54<Deuchnord>I was writing to him
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03:58<Deuchnord>I have a partition in an extended partition (set as bootable) with Windows 8, but Grub cannot find it, how can I do solve this?
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05:56<EF``>hello
05:56<robalni>hello
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05:57<EF``>I'm looking for a pointer to do with a vanilla install of Jessie B2 and an encrypted LVM that I'm struggling with
05:58<EF``>Installed, EFI working correctly but pass for dm-crypt is rejected!
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06:03<ompaul>EF``: if you put one in you need to remember it,
06:03<ompaul>that's the idea - no access until you know the password
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06:08<EF``>ompaul: thanks for the reply. Just worked it out...
06:09<EF``>It is on a laptop with no caps lock light. So, the caps and small letters were reversed.
06:09<EF``>Shame there isn't a plain text option for the passwords in the installer!
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06:10<ompaul>EF``: if you want it file it as a bug, but expect it to be rejected
06:10<ompaul>if on the other hand you hand a bunch of code and say this helps ... then maybe it will be paid attention to
06:10<EF``>supposed the better idea would be some text under the box stating caps lock is on.
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06:13<ompaul>again the same applies
06:13<ompaul>look at the code supply a patch and see if it is accepted
06:14<EF``>I'll submit anyhow. Coding isn't my thing.
06:14<ompaul>that is the fastest way to rejection
06:14<ompaul>hi I'm telling you I want you think about this problem here
06:15<ompaul>even have some kind of block ascii diagram
06:15<ompaul>and you can talk about the processes
06:17<EF``>Am sure I can describe a solution. How can I find the code for that part of the Debian installer?
06:18<ompaul>inside the installer source search for password
06:18<ompaul>I've not looked and does not annoy me :)
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06:20<EF``>It is funny how the EFI thing was simple yet a lack of a light caused me hours of grief! Bless Asus
06:21<ompaul>its a microsoft invention
06:21<ompaul>remember that
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06:28<tweek>so. i'm trying to create an ad-hoc wifi bridge between two debian machines, without much success. on machine 1 (stable, headless), i can create a WEP but can't create a WPA-PSK encrypted network (getting 'ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument'), while on machine 2 (testing, gui), i can create a WPA-PSK but can't create a WEP-encrypted network ("authorization supplicant timed out").
06:29<tweek>i don't understand either error, and neither seems anyone else after some googling.
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06:31<tweek>of course i'd prefer to use WPA and fix error #1, but i suspect that nobody has ever successfully created an ad-hoc network with WPA-PSK on a headless debian machine
06:33<EF``>There appears to be an answer on Ubuntu's forum to fix item 1.
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06:34<tweek>EF``: could you point me to it? i fould lots of ubuntu questions without solutions
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06:35<EF``>http://askubuntu.com/questions/106633/wpa-supplicant-ioctlsiocsiwencodeext-invalid-argument
06:35<EF``>read lower down. Suggests removing network-manager
06:37<tweek>EF``: i don't have network manager installed
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06:39<tweek>but the next thing i was actually going to try is install it, because on the testing machine with the gui it seems to work, so i'd at least see if it is possible on the hardware
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06:46<EF``>is there any nm components installed?
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06:49<bvme>lolo
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07:14<Deuchnord>I have a partition in an extended partition (set as bootable) with Windows 8, but Grub cannot find it, how can I do solve this?
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07:15<mitrom>ao2, nice subnet you have there...
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07:17<ao2>mitrom, it's a pretty normal /64 from SixXS (https://www.sixxs.net/main/)
07:17<mitrom>no that's at least a /48
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07:19<ao2>a /64 out of a /48, the middle 0s are just collapsed
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07:21<ao2>by only looking at the address you cannot guess the network size in general
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07:25<mitrom>Well I'd assume you own 2001:1418:117::/48
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07:31<zeev>Hi, http://paste.debian.net/138706/ this is my visudo, however if I try to sudo someuser I get: someuser is not allowed to run sudo on ... what is wrong? thank
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07:43<tweek__>zeev: do you mean, when you try 'sudo' as someuser, because 'sudo someuser' is not how sudo is used afaik
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07:45<zeev>sorry, I mean running sudo touch /var/log/somefile for example
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07:45<zeev>once I provide the password of someuser I get the error
07:46<tweek__>zeev: from what i dimly remember, maybe you actually need to log out and back in before it works. also, maybe try adding user to sudo group instead adding it to sudoers directly, this is the usual way to do it anyway
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07:50<zeev>tweek__: thanks I'll try...
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07:57<zeev>tweek__: it worked. Thank you. Strange it worked for me with visudo in the past...
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08:03<ompaul>zeev: you su - user
08:03<ompaul>sudo from a user is generally an admin function
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08:11<tweek__>i think i've actually made progress with my wpa-psk ad-hoc wireless, but now i'm getting an error for which the only google hit is a piece of source code :-(
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09:09<santiago>hi people
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09:11<SynrGy>i guess the wind kicking up the flurries a bit might hamper visibility, but if so, why not just say *that* instead?
09:11<SynrGy>the advisory is unhelpfully vague :p
09:11<SynrGy>ECHAN
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13:08<tobeymaguire>so, if I want to encrypt my debian partition, does it matter if I do it before or after I install debian?
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13:37<alexd>happy new year linux community
13:38<alexd>is anyone online?
13:38<centrx>negative
13:38<centrx>Internet down
13:38<centrx>I can't even order a pizza
13:39<alexd>how are you able to chat then?
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13:41<alexd>I am looking for a link on how to uninstall linux distros without messing up GRUB. I have put several distros on my PC but when I tried deleting a distro, my boot failed. I had to use a live flash and reload a distro again to get boot back. Know of any links?
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13:57<linuxuz3r>what grub version do you have
13:58<linuxuz3r>grub2 uses device id so you only need to delete the partition the linux distro is installed
13:58<linuxuz3r>but before doing that you need a separate grub partition
13:59<linuxuz3r>200mb-500mb grub partition
13:59<linuxuz3r>200mb-500mb grub2 partition
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13:59<DusXMT>linuxuz3r: they're already gone
13:59<DusXMT>they left 3 minutes after asking their question
14:00<linuxuz3r>oh
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14:49<rryoumaa>can grub understand /dev/disk/by-id?
14:51<somiaj>grub can use uuid's
14:51<somiaj>but I don't think it parses them from /dev (which is setup by udev way after grub has booted)
14:51<tobeymaguire>is there a way to turn off my radeon card in grub before or while booting?
14:52<somiaj>tobeymaguire: what do you mean by turn it off? You can blacklist modules or send specific kernel parameters duing boot. But to disable hardware usually you want to do it via the bios.
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14:54<tobeymaguire>I get an error while booting that says "requires firmware-linux-nonfree"
14:54<tobeymaguire>and it just hangs
14:54<tobeymaguire>radeon kernel modsetting
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14:55<somiaj>that is strange, it should only require the nonfree firmware for 3D graphics and should jsut be a warning.
14:55<somiaj>what kernel and debian version are you using?
14:55<tobeymaguire>latest
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14:55<tobeymaguire>just downloaded and installed them
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14:55<tobeymaguire>I have two graphics cards
14:55<tobeymaguire>one is the radeon
14:55<tobeymaguire>the other is an integrated one
14:56<somiaj>tobeymaguire: downloaded and installed them from where?
14:56<tobeymaguire>debian.org
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14:56<somiaj>tobeymaguire: how did you download and install them. What version of debian are you running and what specific kernel did you download?
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14:56<tobeymaguire>debian 7.7.0 amd64 netinst
14:57<tobeymaguire>installed refind to my EFI partition then blessed it
14:57<tobeymaguire>rebooted with the flash drive I dd'd the iso to
14:58<tobeymaguire>plugged an ethernet cable in since I needed drivers for the wireless
14:58<tobeymaguire>and ran a netinstall
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15:00<tobeymaguire>the install ran fine and rebooted
15:00<dvs>tobeymaguire: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/
15:00<tobeymaguire>after rebooting I got the error about modsetting
15:01<tobeymaguire>dvs: that's exactly what I used
15:01<tobeymaguire>it's still on my thumbdrive
15:02<dvs>tobeymaguire: But that has the firmware built-in. It shoudln't ask for firmware-linux-nonfree
15:02<tobeymaguire>ah
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15:25<antoine_>Hello, I have installed debian but I am having some troubles with my kernel, is this the right place to ask for help ?
15:26<Arrowmaster>~asktoask
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15:28<antoine_>ok, well the kernel floods my console with error messages, the most of the time it is 'nouveau 0000:01:00.0: PMC - unhandled INTR 0x4400000'
15:28<antoine_>i have a copy of my syslog if it can help: 195.154.119.37/syslog.txt
15:30<santamarta>antoine_: I have no idea, but google ponts to this page: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/219671
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15:47<rryoumaa>what does debian live do that netinst does not?
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15:49<petn-randall>rryoumaa: Provide a live image?
15:50<tobeymaguire>ok, I installed the non-free version of debian and it's still hanging at startup
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15:51<Roguehorse>insert more coins to continue play?
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15:53<antoine_>sanstmarta: thanks
15:54<rryoumaa>petn-randall: does this mean you can get a real bash etc., whereas that is not possible with netinst?
15:54<petn-randall>rryoumaa: I don't understand your question. The live image is a live system with no persistence. The net installer installs Debian.
15:56<rryoumaa>petn-randall: i had heard that netinst allows you to do stuff for rescue; i want a rescue cd and i do not know which tochoose.
15:57<petn-randall>rryoumaa: Ah, in this case you should have asked your question straight away :)
15:58<petn-randall>rryoumaa: the netinstaller rescue capabilities are rather limited. Either use the live image, or something like grml, which comes with a set of tools for that.
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15:58<rryoumaa>can you compare grml and debian live?
15:59<petn-randall>rryoumaa: You'll have to see for yourself. I haven't tried the live system in quite a while.
16:01<tobeymaguire>ok, I got a little farther by passing i915.modeset=0 in refind at boot
16:01<tobeymaguire>but now, I'm just getting a blinking cursor
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16:01<oldlaptop>debian-live is a whole system to build live images, with whatever customizations you want; you can decide exactly what tools you'll need and make an image with them
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16:01<oldlaptop>the "official" images are just a starting point :)
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16:03<tobeymaguire>anyone with experience care to help me diagnose this? I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm just tinkering
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16:07<tobeymaguire>ok
16:07<tobeymaguire>I'm in single user mode
16:07<tobeymaguire>I've got it open in root
16:08<tobeymaguire>I just don't know what to check for to make it run normally
16:09<tobeymaguire>it's a fresh install of non-free
16:09<tobeymaguire>anyone?
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16:10<devilz_>tobeymaguire: there is no non-free version of debian
16:11<tobeymaguire>devilz_: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/
16:11<devilz_>ok, that brings firmware. but you can also install that firmware in a normal debian install
16:11<tobeymaguire>didn't know that
16:11<devilz_>by adding non-free to your sources
16:12<tobeymaguire>someone gave me the link a while ago and I just did a complete reinstall of that iso
16:12<devilz_>well, it does not hurt. no idea if it has firmware-linux-nonfree
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16:13<devilz_>don't even know what your problem is
16:13<tobeymaguire>I'm finally at a command line
16:13<tobeymaguire>so I can check anything you need
16:13<tobeymaguire>my problem is that when I boot in anything other than single user mode it hangs
16:14<tobeymaguire>I'm actually kinda proud of myself for getting it this far
16:14<devilz_>check if firmware-linux-nonfree is installed
16:14<tobeymaguire>how?
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16:15<devilz_>dokg -l | grep firmware-linux-nonfree
16:15<devilz_>dpkg
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16:17<tobeymaguire>dpkg -l | grep firmware-linux-nonfree returns nothing
16:17<dpkg>ii | grep firmware-linux-nonfree returns nothing 3.1-14 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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16:18<devilz_>tobeymaguire: so install it
16:18<tobeymaguire>how?
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16:19<tobeymaguire>-install?
16:19<devilz_>apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree
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16:23<tobeymaguire>'unable to locate package firmware-linux-nonfree'
16:24<tobeymaguire>how do I tell it to turn on the wireless or ethernet?
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16:28<dvs>tobeymaguire: Is there anything in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
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16:29<tobeymaguire>nope
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16:29<tobeymaguire>auto lo
16:29<tobeymaguire>iface lo inet loopback
16:30<dvs>tobeymaguire: does your ethernet network handle dhcp?
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16:30<tobeymaguire>yes
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16:31<dvs>tobeymaguire: Then add the line "iface eth0 inet dhcp" to the /etc/network/interfaces file
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16:31<tobeymaguire>done
16:32<dvs>tobeymaguire: Try "ifup eth0" and then try to ping something
16:32<tobeymaguire>we're up
16:32<tobeymaguire>let me run the update again
16:32<dvs>tobeymaguire: What's in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
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16:33<tobeymaguire>wheezy contrib main non-free
16:34<dvs>tobeymaguire: good. try an update and install firmware-linux-nonfree again
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16:35<tobeymaguire>done
16:35<tobeymaguire>reboot?
16:35<dvs>yes
16:35<jhutchins>why reboot?
16:35<Scratso>Hey, could anyone help me? X won't start.
16:35<dvs>jhutchins: firmware for radeon
16:36<jhutchins>Modprobe should be adequate.
16:36<devilz_>Scratso: why?
16:36<oldlaptop>Scratso: the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log are of interest
16:36<dvs>jhutchins: But this error came while booting.
16:37<oldlaptop>or run startx from a VT
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16:38<Scratso>oldlaptop: The only lines with (EE) are "VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range" and "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
16:38<devilz_>Scratso: we want it all
16:39<dvs>devilz_: greedy!
16:39<devilz_>sure :)
16:39<jhutchins>Scratso: How about some background - which release, what video chipset, what have you done to the system since the base install, are you using OEM drivers ...
16:40<tobeymaguire>ok, now I can't get it to the command line
16:40<devilz_>tobeymaguire: but?
16:40<tobeymaguire>it's hanging on: conflicting fb hw usage radeondrmfb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver
16:41<Scratso>jhutchins: Debian Wheezy (latest, I would assume, since it's newly reinstalled), I have no clue what video chipset... How do I find that?, and I've not done much to the system - only install some things, nothing super bad. This issue arose when I restarted the laptop, and idk.
16:41<oldlaptop>lspci will tell you a lot about the hardware you have, including what video chipset you have
16:41<jhutchins>Scratso: Have you done a full-upgrade?
16:42<jhutchins>Scratso: lspci -nn will give us the video chipset and pci id.
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16:42<Scratso>no, jhutchins, but it was a net-something disc.
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16:43<jhutchins>Scratso: Do you have a working network connection?
16:44<Scratso>I think so, jhutchins.
16:44<Scratso>also, that command returned a lot of things as "intel corporation"
16:44<tobeymaguire>ok, how do I drop into a shell from my boot disk?
16:45<tobeymaguire>since I don't have access to the command line anymore?
16:45<Scratso>jhutchins: yeah, I have internet. Just checked.
16:45<dvs>tobeymaguire: There is a rescue mode from the install disk
16:46<jhutchins>!wheezy sources.list
16:46<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list".
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16:47<jhutchins>Scratso: Check your sources.list - I like to have "wheezy main contrib non-free" instead of just "main" - aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade - that will get you to the most recent packages which is a good place to start.
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16:50<tobeymaguire>ok, how do I install b43 wireless care firmware?
16:50<Scratso>jhutchins, I've run that command.
16:51<jhutchins>Scratso: Ok, let's see if we can get video with service gdm restart
16:51<dvs>tobeymaguire: Why are you installing the wireless drivers when your screen doesn't work?
16:51<tobeymaguire>I don't know
16:51<Scratso>jhutchins: gdm: unrecognised service
16:52<jhutchins>Scratso: Hrmn.
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16:52<tobeymaguire>ok, how do I get the boot to run again?
16:52<tobeymaguire>just change my sources.list file back and update?
16:52<jhutchins>Scratso: dpkg -l | grep dm
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16:52<Scratso>service --status-all shows gdm3
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16:53<jhutchins>Scratso: Ah, add the 3 to the restart then.
16:53<jhutchins>Scratso: Sorry, I don't run gnome.
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16:53<jhutchins>Scratso: This should at the very least generate a new Xorg.0.log
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16:55<Scratso>jhutchins, the same errors are in Xorg.0.log as before. And ctrl+alt+f7 is still blank
16:56<Veltas>During Debian install, how do I choose which /dev/sdX grub is installed onto?
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16:56<tobeymaguire>and, incidentally, my screen is working
16:56<tobeymaguire>it just won't boot for some reason that appears to be related to my video card
16:56<jhutchins>Scratso: Ok, lspci -nn | grep VGA
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16:58<kjfergu>Hey all - I'm not sure if I'm in the right place, but I'm trying to install Jessie onto my desktop. Problem is that I need to use the non-free firmware, so I'm using the 'unofficial' images with the firmware on them, but the installer is failing to recognize that the files are there
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16:58<kjfergu>The 'load firmware from removable media' step also fails to find the files
16:58<kjfergu>Is there any reason why this might be that I'm totally missing?
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16:59<sney>maybe the firmware you need isn't one of the ones distributed with that iso
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16:59<kjfergu>sney: It's there. I can kind of kludge the installer into loading the firmware (but this results in the rest of the install failing), and it will work
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17:00<sney>well, file a bug against debian-installer and install your system with cd1 and do network after
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17:01<kjfergu>sney: I guess that's the route I'll have to go. Thanks!
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17:04<tobeymaguire>ok, I'm reinstalling
17:04<tobeymaguire>...again
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17:05<Scratso>jhutchins?
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17:06<tobeymaguire>anyone wanna give this a go with me?
17:06<tobeymaguire>…another install?
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17:06<sney>are you asking for someone to hold your hand or do you have a specific problem
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17:06<tobeymaguire>hand holding would be nice but I don't know what my specific problem is
17:06<dvs>tobeymaguire: I'd rather fix than reinstall.
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17:07<tobeymaguire>it simply won't boot after a fresh install
17:07<sney>how far does it get
17:07<tobeymaguire>it's almost done downloading (2 minutes left)
17:07<dvs>downloading what?
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17:08<tobeymaguire>if I boot in single user mode by adding 'i915.modeset=0' at boot I can get to the command line
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17:08<tobeymaguire>the 1357 files needed for a net install
17:08<dvs>tobeymaguire: oh, you have both the internal and radeon graphics active.
17:09<tobeymaguire>right, I got as far as turning one off I think
17:09<tobeymaguire>but I'm just tinkering I really don't know what I'm doing
17:09<dvs>tobeymaguire: Disable the internal one in the BIOS?
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17:09<tobeymaguire>dvs: how?
17:10<dvs>tobeymaguire: I don't know you BIOS but there has to be an option to do so.
17:10<tobeymaguire>are you referring to refind?
17:10<tobeymaguire>or grub?
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17:10<dvs>tobeymaguire: No, I mean hitting DEL as soon as the computer starts up
17:11<Scratso>jhutchins?
17:11<jhutchins>Scratso: Sorry, real life.
17:11<Scratso>kk
17:11<jhutchins>Scratso: lspci -nn | grep VGA
17:11<rod>hello
17:11*dvs cuts jhutchins from reality
17:12<rod>wondering when should i consider moving production system to new debian releases like jessie (once this is finally stable of course)
17:12<tobeymaguire>dvs: ok, it's almost done reinstalling
17:12<Scratso>VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09)
17:12<tobeymaguire>dvs: ohhh, wait, I use EFI not BIOS
17:12<dvs>ok,
17:13<sney>same principle though
17:13<sney>whether you can disable one gpu depends a lot on the vendor
17:13<sney>some just won't let you
17:13<dvs>O_O
17:13<sney>(assuming that's a laptop with the split thing)
17:13<tobeymaguire>my laptop has the split thing
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17:13<Scratso>jhutchins: VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09)
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17:19<jhutchins>judd: pciid 8086:0116
17:19<judd>[8086:0116] is '2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'i915', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0116
17:20<jhutchins>Scratso: Let's try a reboot to use the updated kernel files.
17:20<Scratso>okay
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17:22<Scratso>still not working, jhutchins
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17:24<jhutchins>Scratso: Sorry to hear that. Check the X log again, see if it's any more helpful.
17:24<Scratso>exact same two errors.
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17:26<tobeymaguire>ok, it's back up
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17:27<jhutchins>Scratso: Is this an Acer Travelmate?
17:28<Scratso>no, jhutchins. It's a Samsung laptop.
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17:28<jhutchins>Scratso: Model?
17:29<Scratso>jhutchins: NP3530EC-A0EDX
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17:31<tobeymaguire>I've got a link up on eth0
17:32<tobeymaguire>still don't know what I'm missing here
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17:35<tobeymaguire>so, I go through the full normal boot screen
17:35<jhutchins>Scratso: I haven't found evidence of anybody else having problems with the video on this.
17:36<jhutchins>Scratso: Does the live CD work?
17:36<tobeymaguire>the fonts change and the colors change
17:36<Scratso>jhutchins, it's a netinstall disc
17:36<tobeymaguire>then then screen goes black
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17:36<tobeymaguire>then it hangs on ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device as /devices/virtul/input/input14
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17:37<jhutchins>Scratso: Time to start exploring other media I think. Sorry, I don't have any suggestions of how to make this work.
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17:37<jhutchins>tobeymaguire: Try adding noacpi to the boot command.
17:37<Scratso>jhutchins, I did have an issue like this when I first installed Debian on it a few months ago, but I think oldlaptop helped me then.. and I don't remember how.
17:37<tobeymaguire>1 sec
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17:38<jhutchins>!kvm
17:38<dpkg>Kernel-based Virtual Machine (KVM) is a full <virtualization> solution for Linux hosts on x86 hardware with x86 guests. Packaged as qemu-kvm since Debian 6.0 "Squeeze". See http://wiki.debian.org/KVM for installation instructions, also ask me about <xve>. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ http://www.linux-kvm.org/ #kvm on irc.freenode.net.
17:38<jhutchins>!kms
17:38<dpkg>Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
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17:38<jhutchins>Scratso: Try nomodeset, see if it does anything different.
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17:38<jhutchins>Scratso: You can mess with noapci and noapic too.
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17:39<Scratso>I did that, jhutchins, as the first thing I did - not adding nomodeset makes the screen go black when it tries to populate the /dev thing.
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17:39<tobeymaguire>jhutchins: it's still hanging on the same string
17:40<tobeymaguire>jhutchins: if I have to put 'i915.modeset=0' is there some way to format it that I don't know about?
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17:43<tobeymaguire>ok, after using both nopci and noapic it went past that line to bluetooth: hci0 command tx timeout
17:44<tobeymaguire>…and hanged
17:46<jhutchins>Scratso: You might try the #debian channel on irc.freenode.net - slightly different population, someone might have a new idea.
17:46<Scratso>okay.
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17:48<tobeymaguire>is there any way to boot without bluetooth?
17:48<tobeymaguire>…and how do I tell why it's hanging?
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17:51<Buntunub>quick question.. on Wheezy is it possible to install a new set of Mono packages?
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17:52<sakax>aaarrgg bold text
17:52<tobeymaguire>how do I simply disable one of my competing video cards
17:52<tobeymaguire>?
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18:04<tobeymaguire>is there any reason why the firmware-b43-installer package claims that 14e4:4331 is an unsupported device ID?
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18:07<tobeymaguire>…or why this channel has 655 users and is dead?
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18:10<tobeymaguire>is there somewhere else I can go for support?
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18:11<mtn>tobeymaguire: you can try the debian channel on freenode
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18:15<tobeymaguire>mtn: I realize I may be less than specific but my problem is a general one
18:15<tobeymaguire>and I have no experience in diagnosis
18:16<mtn>tobeymaguire: why not follow what dpkg told you? it will help the folks know if they can help or not. general questions are not considered useful.
18:16<mtn>tobeymaguire: are often ignored.
18:17<tobeymaguire>well, is it possible to tell what video setting my computer is trying to use at boot?
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18:18<mtn>tobeymaguire: video setting?
18:18<tobeymaguire>I have two video cards
18:19<mtn>tobeymaguire: I would imagine you would need to check the bios to see which one is one or both or whatever
18:19<tobeymaguire>https://dentifrice.poivron.org/laptops/macbookpro8,2/
18:19<tobeymaguire>this is the guide I've been trying to use
18:19<mtn>tobeymaguire: sorry, don't know anything about macs
18:19<tobeymaguire>that's pretty much exactly my laptop
18:21<tobeymaguire>how do I enable BCMA in the kernel?
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18:28<joaqui>hpl
18:29<joaqui>hay alguirm
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18:32<tobeymaguire>when I start wicd, it fails
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18:41<tobeymaguire>can someone help me set up my wireless card
18:42<tobeymaguire>it uses b43 firmware that I've already installed but I have no idea how to configure everything
18:43<sney>if the firmware is present, all you should need to do is either unload and reload the driver or reboot, and then set it up like any other wireless
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18:43<tobeymaguire>sney: I only have the command line
18:43<tobeymaguire>I'm just trying to get out of my living room with all these wires before continuing with an install that isn't cooperating
18:44<tobeymaguire>I've unloaded and reloaded the driver but I'm trying to use wicd
18:44<sney>if you do 'iwconfig wlan0 scan' can you see a list of access points
18:45<tobeymaguire>nope
18:45<tobeymaguire>unknown command
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18:46<sney>install wireless-tools
18:47<tobeymaguire>it says it's already installed
18:48<sney>oh silly me, it's in /sbin. you may need to run it as root
18:49<tobeymaguire>I'm already root
18:50<tobeymaguire>it's the only way I can even get the thing not to hang at boot
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18:51<tobeymaguire>ok, it's telling me that the b43 *.fw files aren't there
18:53<tobeymaguire>but when I "apt-get install firmware-b43-installer" it says the firmware is already there
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18:54<sney>iirc, the b43-installer package has to download and dissect some other archive from broadcom
18:54<tobeymaguire>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
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18:55<tobeymaguire>can you make sense of that?
18:56<tobeymaguire>I'm smart but I'm completely new to all this…
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18:56<sney>ubuntu docs do not always apply directly to debian
18:57<tobeymaguire>lovely
18:57<sney>it'd be unwise to expect them to.
18:57<tobeymaguire>I don't really know what I'm doing
18:57<tobeymaguire>this is debian: day 1
18:58<sney>you really got unlucky with that nic, most hardware is pretty easy to get working, broadcom is one of the worst vendors for this reason
18:58<tobeymaguire>I got unlucky with more than just the nic
18:58<tobeymaguire>I just want to get these wires outta here
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19:00<sney>https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#b43_and_b43legacy this is the debian documentation for b43. to check your pci id, run 'lspci -nn' and find your nic in the list. pci id looks like [abcd:1234]
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19:01<tobeymaguire>14e4:4331
19:01<sney>tobeymaguire: do not private message people without asking. just keep trying, if you have questions I or someone else will try to answer them.
19:01<sney>,pciid 14e4:4331
19:01<judd>[14e4:4331] is 'BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'bcma' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4331
19:02<tobeymaguire>sney: again I'm new
19:02<tobeymaguire>sorry
19:02<sney>so are most people who come here with questions.
19:03<sney>bcma? hmm that doesn't sound like b43
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19:04<tobeymaguire>ok 'modprobe -r b43'
19:04<tobeymaguire>'modprobe bcma'
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19:04<sney>http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices but then this page says it is supported by b43. sigh, broadcom, why you make everything difficult
19:06<tobeymaguire>yeah, now that bcma is loaded it's unable to load b43/ucode29_mimo.fw
19:07<tobeymaguire>and b43-opn/ucode29_mimo.fw
19:08<sney>urgh
19:08<sney>um, that kernel.org page says wl is an alternative, you could try that
19:09<tobeymaguire>installing
19:09<sney>https://wiki.debian.org/wl
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19:17<tobeymaguire>now it's saying module wl not found
19:18<tobeymaguire>…even though I just did 'apt-get install wl'
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19:52<TeslasMHD>x.x
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19:55<anonymous>Hey
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20:03<josh>when i try and update jessie it says systemd will be removed and apt fails because it cant remove systemd while its in use.
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20:07<y>i need some help with a vps i bought (which runs debian) i recieved a messade from root that states "halt server shutting off" or something along those lines. i don't have physical access to this server and cannot connect to it (it is off)
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20:12<an7>Hi, I'm trying to compile a kernel module but I can't find the package name to download the linux sources, does anyone know which package I need?
20:13<y>linux sources?
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20:14<an7>well that's what I thought too, but it only gave me a .S file, not the whole tree
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20:15<y>so you mean you're missing kernel code?
20:15<an7>yes
20:15<y>do you know which modules?
20:16<an7>actually, the whole tree would be nice
20:16<y>what kernel version?
20:16<an7>i remember a package included that, but i cant find which one it was
20:16<an7>3.2
20:17<y>https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/linux-source-3.2/download
20:17<y>something like that ?^
20:18<an7>well that's the one I installed
20:18<y>use uname -a
20:18<y>could be from the wrong repo?
20:19<an7>yeah i did linux-source-$(uname -r)
20:19<an7>hmm it might be then
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20:20<an7>well no, my sources are good
20:22<y>that's the dource
20:22<y>i guess you could try compiling it yourself?
20:23<y>could also be some corrupted files
20:23<an7>yes, that's what i want to do, and need the source.. I don't know why this package didn't download them
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20:25<y>https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/
20:25<y>that might be of help
20:26<an7>oh greath
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20:26<an7>*great , the full archive :) thanks
20:26<y>nps
20:26<an7>bye !
20:26<y>l8r
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20:35<lastplac3>Hello guys.
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20:36<lastplac3>Does anyone know a piece of software for sending files between two linux virtual boxes?
20:36<lastplac3>VPSes to be exact
20:36<gfedel>lastplac3, you can use scp (install openssh-server in one and use scp to transfer files)
20:37<gfedel>if they are on the same network
20:37<lastplac3>There not on the same network :-/
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20:38<y>you could be 0ldsch00l and just dcc it to the other box
20:38<lastplac3>dcc?
20:38<y>direct client to client
20:39<y>if you have and irc cient on both of them you can send files through dcc...
20:39<lastplac3>Hm
20:40<lastplac3>Ill check that out
20:40<y>well it'd be easier to use something like sftp
20:40<gfedel>lastplac3, they could be connected both on internet, it works to
20:41<lastplac3>yeah I was thinking sftp
20:41<lastplac3>thanks guys
20:41<lastplac3>I really appreciate it. :-)
20:41<y>nps
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22:02<TJ>Anyone staying with Wheezy instead of Jessie upgrade?
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