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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-01-03

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01:22<Admin>installing linux brb
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02:56<io>HI
02:56<io>Anybody there ?
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05:48<felsenhower>Are there any major disadvantages in using the live-cd, speaking of a standard amd64 pc?
05:49<felsenhower>From what I've heard, not all language packages are included, but is there anything else?
05:49<Infiltrator>felsenhower: For what purpose? Persistency is obviously an issue.
05:49<Infiltrator>You can play with the image to include whichever language packages you like.
05:50<felsenhower>You mean by chaning the iso file after downloading it and before burning it?
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05:51<felsenhower>the purpose is just a standard pc installation. nothing weird
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05:55<Infiltrator>felsenhower: If you're just doing a standard installation, then it should be perfectly fine; you can always install whichever packages afterwards. Any reason, though, that you're not just using a standard installation image?
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05:56<felsenhower>I am most likely going to need a live cd later on. So I guess it would be stupid to download both images
05:56<felsenhower>That's why I'm asking
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05:57<Infiltrator>Fair enough.
05:58<felsenhower>Another short question: the standard edition doesn't contain any desktop manager, right?
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06:00<Infiltrator>felsenhower: Yup.
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06:01<felsenhower>ok, thank you :)
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08:01<Jobbe>(32) Not authorized to control networking.
08:01<Jobbe>in nm-applet - user is member of netdev
08:02<Jobbe>any idea whats wrong ?
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08:06<Yatekii>guys has anyone of you experience with steam & nvidia? becasue I installed steam and opened it once yet and now after a restart it keeps telling me that my ogl is omehow broken
08:07<Yatekii>"OpenGl GLX extension not supported by display" to be exact
08:07<Jobbe>Yatekii: from what i know, nvidia and debian don't play nice together
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08:12<Yatekii>Jobbe: :( really? now I have installed everything :(
08:12<Yatekii>well I try on
08:15<Jobbe>I know a guy, he uses steam on debian, he have nvidia and he often have to reinstall the driver, especially after an upgrade
08:17<Jobbe>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
08:17<Jobbe>Yatekii: the man says it self ...
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08:36<DrZaius>is there a way to mount usb sticks from the cli as a normal user?
08:36<DrZaius>whatever nautilus does
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08:42<DrZaius>pmount did the trick. you have to install it tho
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08:50<psilonux>How do I fix "unmet dependencies" when trying to install freeglut3-dev through apt? I know it is probably a conflict with the wheezy backport repo's, but I don't know where to begin..
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08:54<Yatekii>guys my debian was always booting in graphical mode. then I booted into recovery mode one time and now even if I use the standard boot option it doesnt boot in graphical anymore
08:54<Yatekii>any idea?
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08:55<Veltas>What did you do in recovery mode?
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08:56<Yatekii>nothing. I wanted to install the nvidia driver but then didnt because it told me that the gcc of the kernel and the one I am using now are not matching and it could cause troubles
08:56<Yatekii>so I canceled
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08:58<Yatekii>if it had troubles with the driver it wouldnt boot at all, right. So I assume it REALLY didnt do anything
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08:58<Veltas>Try "startx" in multi-user mode
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09:06<Yatekii>Veltas: seems like I did in fact fuck up
09:06<Yatekii>sorry :(
09:06<Yatekii>http://pastebin.com/f4269gJU
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09:07<Yatekii>startx tealls me that it cant find sth with nvidia
09:07<Yatekii>but I have a bad feeling of having a mess with kernels anyways
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09:19<Yatekii>can somebody help me get my kernels right? :S
09:20<valdyn>Yatekii: nvidias installer is not supported
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09:20<valdyn>!nvidia
09:20<dpkg>Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
09:22<Yatekii>ohk
09:22<Yatekii>but I feel that something is messed up either way
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09:22<Yatekii>because the installer told me my kernel was built using gcc4.8 and I now have 4.9 (which is ok with me)
09:23<Yatekii>so I feel that something is bad anyways
09:23<Yatekii>and I installed THAT EXACT driver once yet
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09:33<Yatekii>!nvida dkms
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09:33<Yatekii>!nvidia dkms
09:33<dpkg>For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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09:48<Yatekii>valdyn: I used the nvidia-detect script and it suggests me to install nvidia-driver/jessie-backports which is a non existant package
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09:54<towo`>Yatekii, tha package is named nvidia-driver and the repo is jessie-backports
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09:55<towo`>Yatekii, so read the docs how to use backports in debian
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09:55<Yatekii>towo`: got it running was using a wrong command
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09:59<Yatekii>towo`: I used sudo aptitude -t jessie-backports -r install nvidia-kernel-dkms but I feel like it still installed 340 instead of 343 :S and yes I added the backports repo to sourec list
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10:01<towo`>apt-get -t jessie-backports install nvidia-driver
10:01<towo`>hopefully you have done apt-get update after adding the backports repo
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10:02<Yatekii>ofc
10:02<Yatekii>hmm I was just following the debian wiki and it told me to install nvidia-kernel-dkms :) thats why I used that
10:02<Sebastinas>343 is only in experimental.
10:03<Yatekii>I have a 970 I dont care about experimental I care about "its the only one that supports 970" :)
10:04<towo`>then you have to use the experimental driver
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10:04<Yatekii>yep I know
10:04<towo`>340.xx does not support that chipset
10:05<Yatekii>as I told :)
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10:05<Yatekii>apt-get -t jessie-backports install nvidia-driver says that there is nothing to do so maybe it worked
10:05<Yatekii>startx still fails tho
10:05<Yatekii>I dig into that
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10:07<Yatekii>nope
10:08<Yatekii>it installed 340
10:08<Sebastinas>jessie-backports does not contain any packages at this time.
10:08<Yatekii>not 343
10:08<Yatekii>:(
10:08<Sebastinas>Then go and grab the package from experimental.
10:08<Yatekii>oO kk
10:08<Yatekii>ty
10:08<Yatekii>because the detect script told me to use backports for jessie :)
10:08<Yatekii>ty!
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10:08<Yatekii>k gonna read how to experimental
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10:09<devilz_>cqarefull now :)
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10:09<devilz_>carefull even
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10:11<Yatekii>hmm?
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10:22<ArtooDetoo>Yatekii, have you tried to install the one from wheezy-backports?
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10:23<Yatekii>ArtooDetoo: no
10:23<Yatekii>I am not sure if there is 343
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10:23<ArtooDetoo>343 is only in experimental
10:23<ArtooDetoo>!versions nvidia-driver
10:23<ArtooDetoo>mhhm how to ask judd here?
10:24<Yatekii>and atm my debian is a huge mess thanks to apt-get having installed all the dumb shit so the installer keeps telling me there is artefacts left on the system
10:24<Yatekii>!nvidia
10:24<dpkg>Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net.
10:25<ArtooDetoo>versions nvidia-driver
10:26<ArtooDetoo>i give up ...
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10:26<ArtooDetoo>he said: Package: nvidia-driver on i386 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; sid/non-free: 340.65-2; experimental/non-free: 343.36-1
10:28<Yatekii>yep
10:28<Yatekii>thats why I dont use wheezy
10:29<ArtooDetoo>what else do you use?
10:31<Yatekii>I use jessie but no I mean why I do not use wheezy-backports
10:32<ArtooDetoo>maybe you should try to solve your problem in #debian-next then
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10:35<giupy>hi all
10:35<Yatekii>ok now I used the non-free version and it worked like a charm
10:35<Yatekii>nothing experimental now
10:36<giupy>is there anyone that use toshiba nb100 with compiled kernel and can gives me .config file?
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11:17<psilonux>How do I fix "unmet dependencies" when trying to install freeglut3-dev through apt? I know it is probably a conflict with the wheezy backport repo's, but I don't know where to begin..
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11:36<dom_>hello any opers about ?
11:36<Apollo>why
11:36<dom_>i have a problem with my dovecot installation was looking for some debian pros to help me
11:37<Apollo>!ask
11:37<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:01<FlowRiser>I just discovered that we have a LoTr calendar: cat /usr/share/calendar/calendar.lotr
12:01<decuser>is this an appropriate place to ask for help mouniting a floppy disk in debian?
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12:16<decuser>hi, can anyone assist me with a floppy issue on debian?
12:18<ArtooDetoo>!ask
12:18<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
12:18<musca>decuser: assume "yes" and ask your question, please.
12:18<decuser>thx and sorry
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12:22<decuser>I have inserted a floppy disk into the drive and it doesn't spin or anything and ls /dev/floppy doesn't list any files. I am on debian 7.7. when I mk2efs /dev/fd0 it appears to write a filesystem to the floppy, but after sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy, no files are there and when I try to touch t as a regular user I get a permission denied error.
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12:23<decuser>ls /media/floppy, my bad
12:23<decuser>so two problems really, one how to mount the floppy, the other how to access it as a regular user.
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12:27<Brigo>decuser, are you sure that your kernel support the drive an the drive is connected, etc?
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12:29<decuser>Brigo, not sure about the kernel, but the drive is connected (mk2efs doesn't complain and appears to write to the disk). How can I determine if the kernel's supporting it?
12:29<Brigo>decuser, how did you use mk2efs?
12:30<decuser>sudo mk2efs /dev/fd0
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12:30<Brigo>so the floppy is right, the problem is to mount it. Can the system mount usb sticks?
12:31<decuser>yes
12:32<Brigo>so you can mount usb stick by plug them in but not floppies, right?
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12:32<decuser>that's true
12:32<Brigo>decuser, it should be a permission problem. May be you have to add you user to the floopy group, for example
12:33<decuser>also sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt doesn't complain, but it also doesn't appear to actually mount (not reported by sudo mount)
12:33<decuser>user is in floppy
12:34<decuser>but the sudo mount command causes the drive to spin up...
12:34<Brigo>it should mount it or return some fail message.
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12:35<Brigo>decuser, are you using wheezy?
12:35<decuser>Brigo, yup that makes sense, but it doesn't seem to work that way. I know the drive itself is ok because I've booted off of it recently. Yes, I'm using wheezy
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12:36<Brigo>decuser, you should check the logs, check /var/log/syslog and/or /var/log/kern.log
12:36<Brigo>you can paste them in paste.debian.net so we can check it too. :)
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12:49<decuser>Brigo, what was the paste url again?
12:49<Brigo>paste.debian.net
12:50<Brigo>!paste
12:50<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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12:52<decuser>Brigo, question - is there anything I need to exclude from the kernel.log or syslog paste from a security perspective?
12:53<Brigo>i don't think so.
12:53<decuser>I don't see anything, but I thought I'd ask
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12:54<decuser>here's syslog: http://paste.debian.net/downloadh/6edf0aca
12:55<decuser>and kernel.log: http://paste.debian.net/downloadh/b5eccc75
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12:57<Brigo>decuser, there is nothing about floppy in syslog
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12:57<decuser>nope
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12:59<Brigo>what is you local time?
12:59<decuser>11:59am
12:59<decuser>I just rebooted and logged back in
12:59<decuser>a few minutes back
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13:01<dom_>anyone that can help me with a dovecot-core upgrade problem ?
13:02<jordanm>!tell dom_ about bat
13:02<Brigo>decuser, are you using a graphic environment'
13:02<Brigo>?
13:02<decuser>yes
13:03<decuser>kde
13:03<decuser>kde4
13:04<dom_>about bat ?
13:04<Brigo>open a virtual console and run tail -f /var/log/syslog then you can see everything that is writting to the syslog, and then in other virtual console try to mount the floppy disk again
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13:04<decuser>done, nothing reported
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13:05<Brigo>and you cannot see /dev/fd0 mounted with mount command?
13:05<decuser>correct
13:06<Brigo>did you have a line regarding /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab?
13:06<decuser>Brigo, its: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
13:07<Brigo>decuser, so you are mounting it in /media/floppy0.
13:08<decuser>it appears that way...
13:09<Brigo>you can change it if you do not like it.
13:09<decuser>what should it be
13:09<Brigo>what you like :) what do you want to modify the directory?
13:10<decuser>should there be an fstab entry?
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13:10<Brigo>no, but it use to be, with it you can easy mount a disk with 'mount /dev/fd0' or 'mount /media/floppy0'
13:11<Brigo>and allow the users to write it -with the user option at the end-
13:11<decuser>what does a well formed fstab entry look like?
13:11<decuser>for floppy
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13:12<Brigo>that is a good former fstab entry.
13:12<godi>holis como andan todos por hai
13:13<Brigo>the driver: /dev/fd0, the directory to mount to: /media/floppy0 the filesystem: auto and the options
13:13<Brigo>godi, this is a english channel, please join debian-es to speak in spanish
13:13<decuser>Brigo, ok here's an update. I removed the fstab entry, created a folder as root, flp and then mount -v -t ext2 /dev/fd0 flp and voila, it worked. now I want a regular user to be able to do this.
13:14<decuser>actually shows up with mount command
13:14<Brigo>decuser, you need a fstab entry :D
13:14<decuser>omg
13:14<decuser>:)
13:14<Brigo>decuser, well, not sure.
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13:14<Brigo>but it will be what would i do if i was you :)
13:15<decuser>what do you suggest?
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13:15<Brigo>modify the fstab line
13:16<Brigo>replace /media/floppy0 with /flp and try.
13:16<decuser>ok
13:17<Brigo>The other way is try the automount feature, like with the usb sticks, but i am not sure what that will work with floppies, they are very all :)
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13:18<Brigo>s/what that/if they/
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13:20<decuser>interestingly, if I add the line back into fstab using flp, it looks the same, but it no worky. remove the fstab line and it mounts fine
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13:25<Brigo>decuser, is not enought to back the line, you have to reload some daemon to get aware of the changes -i think-
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13:27<Brigo>decuser, that is in systemd, if you are not using it forget my last comment.
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13:28<Brigo>i have to go. See you later, and goog luck :)
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13:30<josdeklos3000>hello
13:30<decuser>thx Brigo!
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13:37<dom_>so this is my apt-get history leading up to my problem : http://paste.debian.net/139062
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13:38<dom_>this is the system apt-cache policy
13:38<dom_>http://paste.debian.net/139066
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13:39<dom_>dovecot-core: Installed: 1:2.2.13-11 Candidate: 1:2.2.13-11 Version table: *** 1:2.2.13-11 0 650 http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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13:46<busch>What is the output of "lsb_release -sc" on wheezy?
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13:47<mgv>busch: wheezy
13:47<busch>mgv: Thanks
13:47<mgv>you're welcome
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13:58<dom_>help fix dovecot-core 1:2.2.13-11 upgrade problem anyone ?
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14:15<zrtsh>http://pastebin.com/3XTm28i0 what do I need ?
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14:23<zrtsh>please
14:23<zrtsh>What is the proble ?
14:24<zrtsh>problem ?
14:26<dom_>i am no debian expert but it appears you need pidgin-data before 2.10.9-z but it appears 2.10.10-1 is to be installed
14:27<zrtsh>I understand. How to take the old ?
14:28<dom_>apt pinning
14:28<weasel>and now you have two problems.
14:29<dom_>lol sorry no dont listen to me. i dont know s**t
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14:34<dom_>so who do i need to pm to get any help on this channel with dovecot-core 13-11 upgrade problem ?
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14:39<dom_>try: "apt-get install pidgin-data=2.10.9-0"
14:39<zrtsh>okay I am tying
14:39<zrtsh>trying
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14:40<zrtsh>http://pastebin.com/6EHFgdDa
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14:43<buffalodread>are you crazy? what is that?
14:44<buffalodread>I don't understand a bit
14:44<zrtsh>the terminal, no more
14:44<sney>!localized errors
14:44<dpkg>Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install»
14:44<zrtsh>me too
14:44<zrtsh>okay
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14:46<zrtsh>http://pastebin.com/YZE7qRH2
14:46<sney>you just put that through a translator
14:47<sney>jesus
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14:47<sney>anyway
14:47<sney>,v pidgin-data
14:47<judd>Package: pidgin-data on i386 -- squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze4; squeeze-security: 2.7.3-1+squeeze4; squeeze-backports: 2.10.9-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.10.9-1~deb7u1; squeeze-backports: 2.10.10-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 2.10.10-1~deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.10.10-1~deb7u1; sid: 2.10.11-1; jessie: 2.10.11-1
14:47<zrtsh>of course, it is easier
14:47<sney>if you want to install a different version of a package, it needs to be available, you can't just specify an arbitrary version
14:47<sney>if you want a specific version that's no longer available in your release, you should get it from snapshot.debian.org
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15:53<mkol_ssn>how would i go about passwording a folder on debian?
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16:00<Thaddeus>My question regards iceweasel on wheezy stable. I like the way iceweasel renders SVG to PDF when it prints to a file. However, to my surprise, "dpkg -s iceweasel" does not seem to reveal the library that does the job. The library is not libcairo2 as far as I can tell. What renders SVG for iceweasel, please?
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16:06<Thaddeus>Or is there some other place I should ask my technical question regarding iceweasel on wheezy stable? (It is not a development question, so I should not probably not ask in the development channels.)
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16:11<dondelelcaro>Thaddeus: It's still cairo
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16:12<dondelelcaro>(or at least, it was cairo at some point, and iceweasel still links against cairo as of 31)
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16:55<uV1s>Question: is there a way to check under which partition a specific directory is placed?
16:56<uV1s>nvm
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16:56<uV1s>df does that too
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17:24<rfreeman>how to configure my apt so it will execute a script with a .deb file in path, before using the .deb (after downloading it) - e.g. so that I would be emailed the checksum of .deb file downloaded by apt-get
17:25<rfreeman>the reason is to retroactively check against MITM that occurred with cooperation of FTP admin
17:26<rryoumaa>uV1s: stat
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18:59<tom_t>why does the resolution on my monitor reset after turning off the monitor for more than a few minutes and how can I stop that from happening ?
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19:12<musca>tell us all the dirty details, please, tom_t
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19:26<tom_t>running gnome/debian, have HPw1907 monitor, after I shut off the monitor for more than a few minutes the resolution switches to whatever it is initially when I first turn on the computer
19:27<rfreeman>tom_t, looks like some strange bug in xorg/drivers/something... perhaps try other DE like kde, or maybe use xfce
19:28<tom_t>I have those on here, I'll try it on those and see what happens
19:28<tom_t>thank you
19:29<rfreeman>tom_t, no problem. If nothing helps an option could be to try other kernel or backported e.g. xorg driver
19:30<tom_t>thank you :)
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20:17<kingsley>Do you happen to know of a tool that probes USB ports and tells you what's attached?
20:18<kingsley>For example, is it a thumb drive, WiFi adapter, scanner, etc...
20:18<kingsley>I'd like as much detail as possible.
20:20<rfreeman>kingsley, lsusb -v
20:20<rfreeman>kingsley, -vv works too afair, see man lsusb
20:20<rfreeman>see also lspci and hdparm -I /dev/sd.... the later might work for some usb attached disks for more details
20:21<rfreeman>kingsley, also hwinfo tool
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20:22<kingsley>rfreeman: Thank you for reminding me if lsusb.
20:22<kingsley>Why did you suggest lspci?
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20:26<rfreeman>kingsley, just btw. Maybe some strange devices would also show up in there
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20:47<srbaker>what's the magic incantation to search for all pacakges providing 'httpd'?
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20:52<sney>srbaker: aptitude search ~Phttpd
20:52<srbaker>thx
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21:00<jemadux>the repo is best to put cdn or http ?
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21:02<srbaker>ugh
21:02<srbaker>i'm havin a terrible time here
21:02<srbaker>i have nginx-full installed, which provides httpd
21:02<sney>jemadux: http supersedes cdn
21:02<srbaker>when i try to install mediawiki, it tries to install apache
21:02<srbaker>but it has apache2 | httpd in depends
21:02<sney>jemadux: they are pretty much the same in practice though
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21:03<sney>srbaker: sounds like a bug. has anyone reported that against mediawiki?
21:03<jemadux>ik but which will be suspened ?
21:03<srbaker>well, it wouldn't be a bug in mediawiki
21:03<srbaker>mediawiki has the right depends line
21:03<srbaker>Depends: apache2 | httpd, php5, php5-mysql | php5-pgsql | php5-sqlite | php5-mysqlnd, mime-support, libjs-jquery, libjs-jquery-tipsy, libjs-jquery-cookie,
21:04<srbaker>oh, looks like php5 is dragging in apache :(
21:04<jemadux>sney: which one will be suspended ?
21:04<sney>jemadux: cdn will, eventually, I think
21:04<James_T>ah, you'd just want php-fpm, no?
21:04<James_T>*php5-fpm
21:04<sney>James_T: that doesn't explain why it would be trying to install apache if he already has something that provides httpd
21:04<srbaker>aw, shit.
21:04<James_T>yeah
21:04<srbaker>so mediawiki depends on php5 :(
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21:05<James_T>instead of php5 | php5-fpm? wait. you can do php with other stuff too ;)
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21:05<srbaker>mediawiki depends on php5, not php5-fpm
21:05<sney>oh, it must be going after libapache2-mod-php5 as the dependency. that's normal behavior, if a bit obsolete these days
21:05<jemadux>sney: thanks :)
21:06<James_T>even upstream says to not use that XD
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21:07<srbaker>okay, now i have to figure out how it's dragging in mysql, even though i have postgres
21:07<sney>yeah. unfortunately it's non-trivial to have a fastcgi setup install and work out of the box the way modphp does
21:07<James_T>srbaker: install php5-pgsql ?
21:07<srbaker>James_T: already have it. it's confusing
21:07<James_T>weird
21:08<srbaker>oh, it was catching on Recommends: postgresql-contrib
21:08<srbaker>there we go
21:08<srbaker>thanks!
21:08<James_T>oh XD
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21:19<stef99x>anyone online?
21:19<stef99x>i need some help :D
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23:06<TimeVirus>I just installed Knoppix 7.4.1 and I would like to update. Would I do 'apt-get install update' ?
23:09<TimeVirus>lol 632 folks in here and no one speaking up to help out?
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23:11<TimeVirus>weak
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23:32<tatsunao>Hey
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