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00:31<quietone>can't login as a user, "Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied". /bin/bash is 755. /bin is 755
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00:32<quietone>seems strace should help, but I've never read such a trace before.
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00:37<quietone>so I can't login to my backup server, which I need to do today or tomorrow b4 going to my first linux conf
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00:49<quietone>cool, I found it. permission on / were wrong.
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00:53<k-man>thanks, I'll give jessie a go
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00:54<k-man>does jessie default to using systemd when you do a fresh install?
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01:03<root_>Is this hacker here ?
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01:26<ki7mt>k-man, I think so, but I didnt check, you can by: ls -al /sbin/init then see if it's a link to -> /lib/systemd/systemd
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01:30<k-man>ok thanks ki7mt
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02:28<adm001mi>hey all, got in issue with the netinstall for wheezy 7.7. I install from USB, and with two diffrent downloads, one from just now and another from couple of days ago I get a unretrievable apt-setup-deb from the CD. Setup states it can't copy the file...
02:28<adm001mi>the one from a couple days old, has worked before though
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02:41<jm_>try looking on tty3/4 for more details
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03:04<adm001mi>jm how can one do that?
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03:08<jm_>adm001mi: press ctrl-alt-f3 or f4, ctrl-alt-f1 to get back to installer, ctrl-alt-f2 to get a shell prompt
03:08<adm001mi>jm_ I got a terminal, but have no clue how to find more details...
03:09<jm_>adm001mi: check if there's something at the bottom on tty3/4 immediately after you get the error
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03:11<adm001mi>nothing on tty3 but apparently there is some loglisting on tty4, where it states tat at 09:03:29 the CD is detected and only 3 seconds later it can't mount /dev/sr0 nor /dev/sdb1 on /cdrom
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03:12<adm001mi>sr0 has no medium, obviously and for sdb1 (obviously my USB) it failed to mount on /cdrom and from libc6-udeb package doesn't exist...
03:13<adm001mi>and there is a bad md5sum
03:14<adm001mi>according to shell prompt sdb1 is mounted on /cdrom
03:16<adm001mi>but /cdrom is empty
03:16<jm_>check if kernel reported any errors then
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03:32<adm001mi>at this lvl I feel like a noob.. never experienced ths so once again jm_ i need to ask on how one can check kernel reported errors...
03:33<jm_>adm001mi: on tty2 run dmesg, look for anything related to scsi/usb
03:33<jm_>it would be at the bottom
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03:35<adm001mi>no kernel errors only anna nagging about none existing packages and bad md5sum
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03:35<jm_>dmesg command should not report those ...
03:35<adm001mi>my bad
03:36<adm001mi>erm... lemme see... directory bread(block xxxxxx) failed
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03:40<jm_>that might be it then
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03:44<adm001mi>I've already reformatted the drive several times and replaced the image with unetbootin as always...
03:44<adm001mi>still no go...
03:45<towo^work>adm001mi, don't use unetbootin
03:45<towo^work>unetbootin can't handle isohybrid correct
03:46<adm001mi>while still being in the installer I unplugged the usb stick... wrote the image with dd to it... and now it works without reboting...
03:46<adm001mi>thx for the help so far1
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03:50<krion>hi guys
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03:50<krion>can anyone have a quick look at this pastebin and tell me if it required a bugs reports or if it's a bad behaviour from myself
03:50<krion>http://pastebin.com/4PQdDJeR
03:51<krion>my goal is to backports qtwebkit-2.3.4 to wheezy
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03:51<krion>webkit is build correctly, but packaging failed
03:51<krion>unfortunately :(
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03:52<jm_>,checkbackport qtwebkit-2.3.4
03:52<judd>No package named 'qtwebkit-2.3.4' was found in sid/i386.
03:52<jm_>,checkbackport 2.3.4.dfsg-3
03:52<judd>No package named '2.3.4.dfsg-3' was found in sid/i386.
03:53<jm_>bleh
03:53<adm001mi>jm_ thx!
03:53<jm_>adm001mi: no problem
03:53<jm_>,checkbackport qtwebkit
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03:53<judd>Backporting package qtwebkit in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libqt4-dev (>= 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2~).
03:53<jm_>so did you backport that too?
03:54<krion>yes
03:54<krion>ii libqt4-dev 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-2 amd64 Qt 4 development files
03:55<krion>but i did delete the "build" directory of qt4
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03:55<krion>did you have a look at my pastebin
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03:56<krion>i'm sure there is a misstep by me since automatic debian build will have trigerred the bug, if bug there is
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03:56<jm_>ahy are you using -nc?
03:56<krion>yes
03:56<jm_>why*
03:57<krion>i have no justification for that
03:57<jm_>so have you tried building it without -nc?
03:57<krion>i will, thanks
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03:58<krion>works better, thanks
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03:58<krion>sorry to be such a noob, and did not even man dpkg-buildpackage (before now)
03:58<jm_>no worries
03:58<krion>i'm working on it
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04:02<mycr0ft>hi all, im new here.. and I think I got a little problem with an app in debian.
04:02<mycr0ft>the app caled: GoPanda2, its already has linux version and I've tried it in Ubuntu last couple months..but since I move to Debian, I cant run it..
04:02<mycr0ft>no error message found..
04:04<jm_>mycr0ft: is it packaged in debian?
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04:05<mycr0ft>it is a tarbal file
04:05<mycr0ft>.tar.gz i mean
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04:06<jm_>then you shall ask the developper for help
04:07<mycr0ft>oooh ok :D thanks..
04:08<jm_>but running it in a terminal might give some clues too
04:10<mycr0ft>I got this message in terminal: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found
04:10<mycr0ft>and this: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found
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04:11<jm_>it would work in jessie
04:11<mycr0ft>do you mean 3.16 kernel?
04:11<mycr0ft>I have used 3.16 kernel from backport
04:12<jm_>no, libc6 from jessie, but either fully upgrade or stop now (don't try upgrading just this package)
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04:14<mycr0ft>ooooh oke.. got it... try half upgrade will ruin everything :)
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04:15<mycr0ft>btw, may I ask a really silly question? I'm a little bit curious with that Jessie version.. is it safe? cause it is not labeles as 'stable' yet...
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04:16<DusXMT>mycr0ft: it should be pretty safe, but there's still some ironing out to do
04:16<jm_>it will be released relatively soon so if you can wait just wait
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04:17<mycr0ft>ok.. better I wait then. :D cause i'm too newbie to do something in linux yet.. hehehe.. ex-windows user..
04:20<jm_>alternatively you can install it in a chroot if you have enough space to test things - see schroot and debootstrap
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04:54<himanshu>what s up?
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05:05<himanshu>haha
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06:42<KingOfDos>why does any recent debian/ubuntu/whatever break with ANSI support?
06:42<KingOfDos>stuff like: echo -e "\e[5;31;40m red blinking on black background \e[0m"
06:43<KingOfDos>with any $TERM which is delivered in debian 7.7
06:43<enyc>KingOfDos: hrrrm did you do anything in thepast to activate such ''ansi support'' ?
06:43<KingOfDos>also seen this issue on a lot of other (debian based) systems
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06:43<enyc>KingOfDos: I wonder if this is something over change to UTF-8 or the like
06:43<KingOfDos>enyc: nope, just regular out of the box
06:43<enyc>KingOfDos: when did it work in the past on what distros/versions and what TERM variable ?
06:43<KingOfDos>no, i changed to wtf-8 to trying to solve this. but in the beginnin i didn't even had any locale installed ;]
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06:44<KingOfDos>started since debian 7, i guess. wild guess
06:44<enyc>you'd have to narrow down your facts and where whatever it is changed over ....
06:44<enyc>may be nothing todo with UTF-8 of course =)
06:44<KingOfDos>isn't related to utf8
06:44<enyc>utf8 is a misnomer / wrong name
06:45<jm_>KingOfDos: how does it break it?
06:45<KingOfDos>http://kingofdos.com/zooi/setup/color/ELINKS.RESULTS
06:45<KingOfDos>for example ;]
06:45<KingOfDos>opendir, just some docs about this issue
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06:45<KingOfDos>and 'locales during testing' was AFTER installing the package locales
06:45<KingOfDos>before, it wasn't utf8 ofc.
06:46<KingOfDos>but, that was just one of the boxes.
06:46<enyc>-> utf8 is a misnomer / wrong name
06:46<KingOfDos>did you try the 'echo' line?
06:46<jm_>works fine for me ...
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06:46<KingOfDos>what's your $TERM and $TERMCAP?
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06:46<KingOfDos>and is that within x11?
06:47<KingOfDos>or tty?
06:47<KingOfDos>cause, this is just terminal
06:47<jm_>xterm with rxvt-unicode-256color (in rxvt it doesn't blink, but colurs are OK)
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06:47<KingOfDos>ah, try without x11
06:47<KingOfDos>breaks ;]
06:47<jm_>can't right now
06:47<jm_>but define break for me
06:48<KingOfDos>well, i've got a few pics on my camera, at home
06:48<KingOfDos>but very strange chars, even when i logout @ term
06:48<KingOfDos>everything got raped
06:48<KingOfDos>etc
06:48<KingOfDos>when I'd execute the color1.pl
06:48<KingOfDos>like, i dunno. doing some strange font selection. or hmmm
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06:49<jm_>so perhaps the issue is with color1.pl?
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06:49<KingOfDos>nope
06:49<KingOfDos>read my README.VIM for example
06:49<KingOfDos>or anything
06:49<KingOfDos>it all depends
06:49<KingOfDos>it all breaks like @#%$#$%% ;-]
06:50<KingOfDos>:runtime syntax/colortest.vim
06:50<KingOfDos>within vim
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06:50<KingOfDos>compared output on multiple machines. very different output
06:50<KingOfDos>same 'syntax/colortest.vim' file according the sha-whatever-sum
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06:51<KingOfDos>but yea, it isn't very good documentation, that URL so far. i know
06:51<KingOfDos>just some things i test with
06:51<KingOfDos>and it SHOULD work according the ANSI standard
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06:51<KingOfDos>that's what i'll know
06:52<jm_>tried it in qemu with d-i and it works fine on tty
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06:53<KingOfDos>what works fine?
06:53<jm_>the echo test
06:53<jm_>obviously don't have vim there
06:53<KingOfDos>check, and term is linux? termpcap?
06:54<KingOfDos>color1.pl and color2.py are trustable imho. should work :-)
06:54<KingOfDos>that is, if you'd read the ansi spec
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06:54<jm_>it's set to linux like it should be, and no, can't be arsed getting color?.p? on a d-i medium to test it
06:55<jm_>i can run the echo and vim colortest at home later if i'll remember
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06:56<KingOfDos>i'll try to take a screenshot, maybe within a few hours. otherwise tonight when i'm at home.
06:56<KingOfDos>so others can compare the vim outputs, and, see other results.
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07:01<jm_>better way to get the escape sequences is using tput btw.
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07:09<krion>jm_: i got same behaviour unfortunately
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07:10<krion>http://pastebin.com/mQmepLYw
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07:11<jm_>krion: is anything else in debian/tmp/usr/include/qt4/QtWebKit/?
07:11<krion>i got no debian/tmp
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07:11<jm_>where are you looking for it?
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07:12<jm_>and you should really not build this as root
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07:13<krion>i'm looking into the directory created by apt-get source
07:14<jm_>if it was some simple package I could look here but that one is too complicated for me now
07:14<krion>yes
07:14<krion>3h30 build..
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07:22<jm_>sometimes the build dependencies are not properly specified, so maybe it's that
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07:22<jm_>i.e. it needs a newer debhelper
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08:53<ABDOOL>il giorno della bestia
08:54<Maulkin>!it
08:54<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
08:55<Maulkin>!list
08:55<dpkg>maulkin: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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08:59<Iridos>that was so predictable...
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09:06<Iridos>krion, it must have built on the debian servers... they use pbuilder for that...(you might have a look at it just out of interest) your last paste doesn't show the real error behind it... probably running make in the source-tree shows that error....
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09:26<PovAddict>I'm completely ignorant about mail servers, I need my server to be able to send outgoing email to remote hosts, incoming not necessary; can somebody help?
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09:28<PovAddict>I have exim installed, which is only taking care of local email (from failed cronjobs for example)
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09:34<Brigo>check workaround.org
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09:42<krion>Iridos: hum yes for sure it a mistake from myself
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09:43<krion>Iridos: the trouble is at the building package step
09:43<Iridos>krion, the larger builds are complex
09:43<krion>Iridos: the build of qtwebkit is ok
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09:46<Iridos>just want to say... yes, probably something you did wrong... but also... probably anyone of us trying to do it would do something wrong in a complex and long build process and would need to go hunting for mistakes. it's normal.
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09:47<Iridos>also... the package might indeed have errors... also something that is more likely to happen in a long and complex build process than a simple one *shrug*
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10:01<houms>I have a laptop running testing for several years now, how can I install the jessie artwork?
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10:02<petn-randall>houms: I assume it's some package with 'theme' or 'artwork' in it. How far did you get with your search?
10:02<houms>still searching i do not see any mention of how to get the new artwork or even a confirmation of what was selected
10:03<houms>i see on the dev mailing list a link to youtube clip
10:03<houms>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9JE51X7ul4
10:04<houms>last wiki https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Artwork/Jessie
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10:05<jordanm>houms: I think it's in the desktop-base package
10:06<houms>Thanks jordanm
10:06<houms>installed it
10:06<houms>now going to see what it provides
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10:24<Nohus>Hi, I want to create a slightly customized Debian, just with some packages removed/added, configuration files configured, files added and create an installer for it so I can deploy my version on many computers from a CD. This sounds like something that should have an easy solution. Does anyone know how do I do that?
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10:25<Brigo>Nohus, may be preseed
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10:26<rfreeman>hi
10:26<Brigo>!tell Nohus about preseed
10:26<rfreeman>how to fully reinstall all packages
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10:26<rfreeman>well purge and then reinstall
10:26<PovAddict>rfreeman: why?
10:26<rfreeman>something is deeply fucked up in my system. Installed binary X drivers, they conflicted with packages... then removed.. then back.. plus some files were maybe corrupted due to drive problems
10:27<rfreeman>normally I would do a clean install, but can Debian 8 installer preserve the /home - that is isolated, but on LVM on LUKS?
10:27<PovAddict>you can't purge and then reinstall *all* packages on a running system, after purging apt-get or dpkg you won't have anything to reinstall with :P
10:27<rfreeman>PovAddict, well everything related to X
10:27<Brigo>rfreeman, install debian 7 base and upgrade
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10:28<rfreeman>or, how to remove all software including dpkg -i binarydriver.deb that is not installed from deb repo
10:28<PovAddict>I'd just reinstall
10:28<PovAddict>the system
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10:32<Nohus>Brigo: Sounds good, thanks
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10:32<Brigo>Nohus, np :)
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10:36<pars>hello
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10:38<rfreeman>PovAddict, can installer of deb7 preserve /home that is in LVM in LUKS in RAID?
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10:38<rfreeman>PovAddict, I am able to from cmdline of installer open raid, luks and lvm and mount existing /home ... do it before partitioner? or ?
10:38<PovAddict>I never used LVM, LUKS, *or* RAID
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10:42<krion>i wonder how can i get help on my trouble while trying to backports qtwebkit
10:42<krion>but since it works on jessie, i've dist-upgrade on jessie ;)
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10:46<expatriot>Hello. I was wondering whether there can ever be two mutually exclusive packages in the debian repository.
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10:48<petn-randall>expatriot: Sure, there are plenty of those.
10:49<petn-randall>expatriot: Many packages of the amd64 architecture conflict with the i386 counterpart.
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10:50<expatriot>Then it seems to me, it should be possible to have sysvinit counter part and allow those who don't want systemd to change.
10:51<petn-randall>expatriot: I don't understand your question.
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10:53<expatriot>i am trying to understand why there is a need for devuan for those who want sysvinit.
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10:54<expatriot>i guess you would have a hard time uninstalling systemd on a system using it.
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10:55<petn-randall>expatriot: It's probably just a website made by a lonesome person. Did you see any names on that website?
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10:56<expatriot>I see 'Franco Lanza'
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10:58<expatriot>it seems to be a lot of redundancy in Linux with all of these distributions. i would like to know if you can't install and use sysvinit on debian.
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10:59<mtn>expatriot: http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201410/2014102101-avoiding-systemd.html
10:59<mtn>expatriot: I think it still applies
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11:00<petn-randall>expatriot: Sure. Wheezy comes with sysv init by default, and jessie will still support it for the complete life cycle.
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11:03<expatriot>So, I wonder why they put so much effort into creating new distributions. Honestly.
11:03<expatriot>Thanks petn-randall, you have answered my question. I will be AFK for a while now... bye.
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11:04<petn-randall>expatriot: Well, it's because the anti-systemd hatred got critical mass, and some people went crazy over this issue.
11:05<mtn>crazy is a good word :P
11:05<PovAddict>has anyone tried uselessd?
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11:16<benpro>Hi there, anyone kown how to install debian wheezy with a backported kernel?
11:17<benpro>Like these (old) one images: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
11:18<vrkalak>yes, benpro
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11:20<vrkalak>** The best way to get "help" is to ask your real question. Give as much detail as you can in a sentence or two.
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11:23<benpro>vrkalak: I need a backported kernel (3.16 to support HP RAID controller p440ar). I wanted to know if there is an "easy" way to make a wheezy ISO with the kernel from wheezy-backports repo.
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11:23<abrotman>!custom netinst
11:23<dpkg>To create customized Debian <netinst> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD . See also <blend>.
11:23<adm001mi>what is the best way to remove fglrx?
11:24<adm001mi>when installed via apt?
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11:29<towo`>adm001mi, apt-get purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/fglrx/{ print $2 }')
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11:31<reg>benpro: do you try http://www.n0r1sk.com/index.php/Debian_Remaster_Netinstaller_-_Integrate_Firmware_bnx2x_and_Preseed ?
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11:35<Darksonn>I'm looking for a terminal emulator with proper autocompletion, like I dont want completion on files after I've typen aptitude install. So far I could only the ones on alt+f2 alt+f3 ... did this.
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11:35<adm001mi>the catalyst installer keeps refraining that the old version is still installed
11:35<Darksonn>So far only the*
11:37<expatriot>Darksonn: Doesn't bash already do this?
11:37<jordanm>Darksonn: the terminal emulator has nothing to do with that
11:37<PovAddict>Darksonn: terminal emulators have nothing to do with completion
11:37<jordanm>Darksonn: if you are using bash, install the bash-completion package and source /etc/bash_completion or restart your shell
11:37<expatriot>PovAddict: It's the shell that does that, right?
11:38<jordanm>Darksonn: note: /etc/bash_completion is not sourced for root by default
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11:38<jordanm>expatriot: yes
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11:39<Darksonn>jordanm: ah, thanks, so thats why it didn't work
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11:40<Darksonn>thanks, people
11:40<Darksonn>:q
11:40<Darksonn>um
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12:02<mkol_ssn>iceweasel in debian keeps freezing
12:03<mkol_ssn>whenever i use a java applet called kgs for a while, why is this?
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12:25<Guest1044>hi what is best e/mail client for beaglebone card?|
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12:57<fr33domlover>hello
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12:57<fr33domlover>for GUI apps, is it required to have a .desktop file and a .menu file?
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12:57<fr33domlover>or is just a desktop file enough?
12:58<fr33domlover>(TinyCA has a menu file but it's not visible in the main menu because there's no .desktop file)
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14:38<awal>is there any web cam app one can use for webcaming and make effects?
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14:39<awal>something like manycam...under windows I mean
14:40<mtn>awal: a basic one is cheese.
14:41<peter1138>There's webcamstudio but it doesn't really work very well.
14:42<awal>mtn, yes I have cheese but it doesn't do the job or maybe yes. i dont really know
14:42<awal>peter1138, yes I tried webcamstudio months ago and its very bugy and its not in debian repo
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14:43<awal>probably webcamstudio is the only one it exist in gnu/linux
14:45<PovAddict>funny, i never understood the point of PhotoBooth on Mac and now you're looking for something like it :)
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14:46<OJ>hi
14:46<OJ>my name is oscar butt
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15:11<riccardo>!list
15:11<dpkg>riccardo: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.7.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
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16:13<Iridos>awa... oh well... I think vlc can do some of what he asked. but I don't have a cam here to try and I don't run windows so I don't exactly know what the programs he referred to are doing
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16:18<DusXMT>That !list reply is genious, I have to say
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16:29<PovAddict>!list
16:29<dpkg>povaddict: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più.
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16:29<PovAddict>why italian?
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16:30<retrospectacus>whenever anyone comes here looking for warez, typing !list - they came from Italy
16:30<retrospectacus>...always
16:30<Iridos>PovAddict, because it's always Italians doing this... no, we don't know why
16:31<PovAddict>o.O
16:31<PovAddict>weird
16:31<Iridos>it's probably cultural
16:31<PovAddict>I saw his hostname was .it
16:31<PovAddict>so I thought the bot parsed the hostname or something
16:32<Iridos>nuffin as complicated
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17:32<jhutchins>PovAddict: It's consistent, and we've never been able to grab one of 'em and find out why.
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17:33<calvin>How do you all get used to terminal for doing most of your work?
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17:34<dark-jedi>calvin, Simple...
17:34<PovAddict>practice? :P
17:35<retrospectacus>practice
17:35<dark-jedi>calvin, Use it for most of your work. It grows on you. :P
17:35<PovAddict>I use the shell for all my filesystem work
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17:35<calvin>Yeah, that's what I've been doing
17:35<calvin>I google everything i need to know
17:35<calvin>and I've been trying to use it for everything
17:35<PovAddict>I prefer graphical IDEs for programming, but not file browsers
17:35<calvin>One main argument I keep hearing is that people don't like to use the mouse, terminal is faster
17:35<jhutchins>calvin: I've been doing this since the console was all you had, so I never had to make the transition to it.
17:36<calvin>jhutchins: woah, that's cool
17:36<dark-jedi>calvin, I wouldn't go that far... I use a combination of Terminal, keyboard, and mouse.
17:36<PovAddict>I want to use a real tty some day
17:36<PovAddict>as in, paper teletype thing
17:36<jhutchins>calvin: In fact, my first computer interface was a selectric typewriter.
17:36<dark-jedi>calvin, But it's good to learn all the necessary commands, because if you're ever stuck in a text-only environment... well, it's handy.
17:36<retrospectacus>selectric is an awesome word
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17:37<jhutchins>calvin: Want some links?
17:37<calvin>sure
17:37<jhutchins>calvin: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
17:38<calvin>thanks jhutchins
17:38<calvin>appreciate it
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18:12<patwotrik>Hi. Quick question. How do I know how long a package has been in Sid and how far it is from entering Testing?
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18:36<abrotman>dpkg: why is foo not in testing
18:36<dpkg>foo is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=foo
18:37<patwotrik>thanks
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18:41<patwotrik>oh, are we in a freeze now?
18:42<abrotman>Yes, Jessie is frozen
18:42<abrotman>Iridos: see, you should put that in the topic
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18:43<patwotrik>:)
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18:47<patwotrik>but if i remember it right Debian has a quite long freeze period
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18:48<abrotman>it can, it could be quick
18:48<patwotrik>hehe
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18:54<expatriot>bye all .
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18:57<devil_> RC bug count: 139
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19:27<patwotrik>devil_, Do you know where i can see the RC history?
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19:31<stegbth>hi i want to user ldap for nginx authentication.
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19:32<stegbth>my /etc/pam.d/nginx-proxy looks like: auth required pam_ldap.so config=/etc/nginx/pam_ldap-zimbra-proxy.conf
19:32<stegbth>i removed account by prepending with #
19:32<stegbth>but my nginx complianes always with: not authenticated: User not known to the underlying authentication module
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20:02<patwotrik>are there any development being made on tar?
20:02<patwotrik>not debian specific, i know
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20:16<abrotman>patwotrik: it has an upstream changelog
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20:19<patwotrik>i was thinking of a feature (maybe it exists)
20:20<patwotrik>that a filename in a tar archive could be reserved, and the content of this will be printed when unpacking i finished
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20:32<guilherme>I am trying to use bluetooth on my notebook, but it is not working. when I try hcitool dev there is no device there
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21:45<paijo>i'm cannot install debian in vbox
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21:47<paijo>help me guys
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21:52<paijo>linuxuz3r (how install debian in orang vbox)
21:52<patwotrik>well, what's the problem?
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21:53<patwotrik>don't ask questions that demands a follow up question
21:53<dark-jedi>paijo, Orang? Do you mean Oracle?
21:53<dark-jedi>Oracle Virtualbox?
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21:55<patwotrik>ping paijo
21:55<paijo>oh sory, yes oracle
21:56<dark-jedi>paijo, What kind of error messages are you getting?
21:56<paijo>om caranya setting vbox buat install debian gimana ?
21:57<patwotrik>what??
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21:58<paijo>no bootable medium found
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21:59<paijo>fast respon pleasee
21:59<dark-jedi>paijo, You need to set the Debian install location. If it's from an ISO file on your computer, then point one of the drives to that ISO and it will mount it virtually like a hard drive and install. If it's on a CD, you need to set up your VB to access your DVD-drive.
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22:00<paijo>i'm install not iso use
22:00<abrotman>Gimana?
22:00<dark-jedi>abrotman, Indonesian. I ran that line through Google Translate.
22:01<dark-jedi>abrotman, It means (roughly) "how vbox settings for how to install debian"
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22:02<paijo>i'm indonesian people
22:03<patwotrik>what kind of medium are you installing from paijo?
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22:05<paijo>sory im not speak english -_-
22:06<patwotrik>paijo, then it is hard to help you
22:06<paijo>hahaha -_-
22:06<patwotrik>use google translate
22:06<dark-jedi>paijo, Maaf kalau aku ini terdengar aneh. Saya tidak berbicara bahasa Indonesia jadi saya menggunakan program penerjemahan.
22:07<dark-jedi>paijo, Anda perlu mengatur Debian menginstal lokasi. Jika itu dari file ISO di komputer Anda, kemudian arahkan salah satu drive untuk ISO itu dan akan me-mount hampir seperti hard drive dan menginstal. Jika pada DVD, Anda perlu mengatur VB untuk mengakses DVD-drive.
22:07<patwotrik>lol
22:07<dark-jedi>patwotrik, Google Translate to the rescue. :D
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22:08<patwotrik>where can i find the RC list for jessie?
22:08<paijo>kwkwkwkwkw laugh
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22:09<paijo>thanks bro patwotrik :D
22:09<patwotrik>or general info about how it's going with the next stable
22:09<patwotrik>np
22:09<dark-jedi>patwotrik, Not sure if this is it... but it might be the RC list. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
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22:11<paijo>where do you come from bro ?
22:11<patwotrik>hmmm, but the latest news is from october and the freeze was in november
22:11<patwotrik>I'm from Sweden
22:11<dark-jedi>paijo, United States
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22:11<paijo>no
22:11<paijo>im indoneisan
22:12<Sukir>woo
22:12<patwotrik>dark-jedi is from USA
22:12<patwotrik>haha
22:12<Sukir>im not speakspeak
22:12<paijo>wow from usa
22:13<Sukir>im indonesian user
22:13<paijo>sukir are you crazy ?
22:13<dark-jedi>Gotta go. See you tomorrow.
22:13<Sukir>no iam not crazy
22:13<paijo>dark-jedi ok
22:14<dark-jedi>paijo, Aku harus pergi. Saya harap saran membantu.
22:14<dark-jedi>:)
22:14<patwotrik>Jo, men det där låter ju alldeles utmärkt grabbar!
22:15<Sukir>what problem ? #paijo
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22:15<Sukir>Dimana alamat mu ? #paijo
22:15<paijo>patwotrik, hahaha i cannot sweden language
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22:16<paijo>sukir, di jombor
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22:16<Sukir>jauh bang , ane dari bandung
22:16<abrotman>English here please
22:16<patwotrik>sure, sorry :)
22:17<paijo>sukir, wah enak di situ bang
22:18<paijo>abrotman, where do you come from man ?
22:18<Sukir>apakah ada masalah tentang Oracle ?
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22:19<paijo>patwotrik, what is your jobs ?
22:19<abrotman>this isn't a social channel
22:20<Sukir>im not speak english
22:21<Sukir>what ? problem end ?
22:21<paijo>oke oke i understand
22:22<Sukir>ok
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