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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-01-15

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04:16<nikk>\server irc.dejatoons.net
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04:41<tuor>hi, I want to make a bootable usb stick. I want to boot from different .iso-files. I find tools, but only to do with ubuntu or windows. So can I do it manualy with grub-install? And then copy iso-files on it and write a grub config?
04:41<tuor>I mean, I know that's possible, but I want to know how.
04:44<jm_>tuor: it's doable use isolinux
04:44<jm_>using too
04:50<jm_>or was it using memdisk, there should be examples out there
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04:51<jm_>ala this https://blog.cihar.com/archives/2012/07/13/intel-ssd-firmware-update-linux/
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04:51<babilen>There are some articles, but it works by essentially creating a partition on the stick for your images and then configuring grub to boot into those ..
04:52<babilen>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive is a fairly comprehensive one (but I have no idea how accurate it is)
04:52<tuor>jm_, ah ok. I'll have a look
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04:53<tuor>babilen, babilen hmm, when I can just copy the iso and then write a grub menu entry it's my prefered way.
04:53<jm_>and grml folks also wrote about that
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04:55<tuor>is there documentation about the menuentry " " {} ?
04:56<jm_>sure: info grub -> Commands -> Menu-specific commands -> menuentry
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04:57<babilen>(this is probably better suited in either #syslinux or #grub)
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04:58<tuor>babilen, shure. thx.
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05:49<puls>这个软件是用的呀
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07:04<chappie>how would I get Debian to boot with a TCG Opal 2.0 compliant self-encrypting drive?
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07:44<chappie>does anyone have any experience with using TCG Opal drives?
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08:16<chappie>does no one have any experience using opal-standard drives with linux?
08:16<chappie>there's surprisingly little information about this on the internet
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08:17<chappie>is it always this dead in here?
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08:19<jm_>no
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08:20<chappie>I've got a crucial M500 drive that has hardware based FDE
08:20<chappie>I'd like to use it with debian
08:20<chappie>is that not possible?
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08:24<petn-randall>chappie: Should be possible, yes.
08:25<chappie>petn-randall: so, there is bootloader support for the FDE?
08:26<petn-randall>chappie: If it's in HW, that's something the BIOS has to take care of. You can load a bootloader from a locked drive. :)
08:26<petn-randall>*can't
08:26<chappie>so, if I'm using EFI?
08:27<petn-randall>chappie: EFI has to take care of that.
08:27<jm_>haven't heard about linux & OPAL support yet
08:27<chappie>I've looked all morning and there's very little info that I can find on the topic
08:28<chappie>I found something called trustedGRUB which allows for authentication but I don't think it's for hardware encryption
08:28<petn-randall>chappie: That's why nobody uses HW-based FDE. :)
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08:29<hikenboot>hi, I am building a live cd, when i install the locale management package it wants to remove unnecessary locales (language /encoding things) should i check off that i want to keep them all in order to make the live cd generic as possible?
08:29<petn-randall>chappie: Again, you can't load grub before unlocking because that would be on the encrypted and locked drive.
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08:30<chappie>so, I'd have to use a BIOS based system to use linux?
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08:31<chappie>it just amazes me that there are lightning fast SSD's with chips on them that do all of the encrypting all the time anyway.. all we have to do is be able to enter a password
08:32<chappie>...and no one in the open source community is interested
08:33<peter1138>chappie, no, the BIOS or EFI system will handle setting it up.
08:33<peter1138>With hardware drive encryption is the OS doesn't need to get involved.
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08:35<chappie>I'm sorry I thought that grub was part of the EFI
08:35<chappie>(I'm still learning)
08:37<chappie>so, then why can't a grub extension be written that can talk to Opal compliant drives re: encryption?
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08:38<chappie>wouldn't that be infinitely simpler than waiting hours to software-encrypt a drive?
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08:49<petn-randall>chappie: Read my last sentence again. On boot it is EFI → decrypts drive → loads EFI system partition → boots that option (grub). You can't load grub before decrypting the drive, so there's no point in implementing this "feature" in grub. It's something your BIOS/EFI needs to handle.
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09:14<zeromon>Is the samba server from Debian accessible from DOS and Windows 95?
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09:16<qimo>hi
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09:20<Maulkin>zeromon_: Yes, it should be.
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09:22<zeromon_>Maulkin: really.??? I tried today the samba sharing with Windows 95 and DOS, But it was not successful. From Windows NT I can access the samba sharing folders iwth no problem.
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09:24<zeromon_>Maulkin: Can you give me a hint what makes troubles? Windows 95 client don't ask even user name, it asks just password. I don't know what I should type there.
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09:36<StyXman>once I installed libfoo-dbg, how can I use nm to find a symbol?
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10:02<Cor3>hello, i'm doing wheezy usb install, all went fine until grub/lilo, cant make mbr, problem is raid0 setup, asus p6t deluxe mobo
10:03<Cor3>any ideas how to get working?
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10:06<petn-randall>Cor3: What did you use to prepare the usb image?
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10:07<Cor3>petn-randall: downloaded usb setup iso from ftp
10:07<petn-randall>Cor3: And how did you put it onto the usb stick?
10:07<Cor3>petn-randall: lili usb creator
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10:08<petn-randall>Cor3: That might be the reason.
10:08<Cor3>petn-randall: i'm runned out of cd/dvd medias, thats why usb. too lazy to go out and buy few :D
10:08<petn-randall>!unetbootin
10:08<dpkg>UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
10:08<Cor3>ok tnx
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10:09<petn-randall>Cor3: lili usb creator probably mangles the image, like unetbootin. '/query dpkg usb install' for instructions how to prepare the image under linux, or '/query dpkg win32diskimager' for windows instructions.
10:09<backbox>;
10:09<backbox>how can i install exe files
10:10<petn-randall>backbox: You could use wine.
10:10<backbox>where can i download that
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10:10<petn-randall>backbox: Are you running Debian?
10:10<backbox>no backbox
10:10<petn-randall>!backbox
10:10<dpkg>BackBox Linux is a distribution based on <Ubuntu> Lucid, developed to perform penetration tests and security assessments. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.backbox.org/ #backbox on irc.autistici.org. See also <based on debian>.
10:10<petn-randall>backbox: ^^^
10:11<backbox>are you real or robot
10:11<petn-randall>backbox: I guess I'm a real robot?
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10:12<backbox>what do you mean
10:12<petn-randall>backbox: I mean backbox is not supported here, and you'll have to ask on their channel.
10:12<petn-randall>backbox: This channel is for Debian support.
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10:13<backbox>i cant find backbox server
10:13<Cor3>petn-randall: it cant write the mbr to /dev/md126 <-- that that raid0 device
10:14<petn-randall>Cor3: Did you create the usb stick with win32diskimager?
10:14<Cor3>petn-randall: no not yet
10:15<petn-randall>Cor3: As I said, lili usb creator breaks the installer, use win32diskimager.
10:15<Cor3>petn-randall: ok i'll try that later, have to do other stuff for while.. tnx anyway
10:16<petn-randall>Cor3: You're welcome. If you get stuck with the installation then, give us a ping.
10:16<petn-randall>backbox: Can't help you with that one. Google might help you finding their support channel.
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10:55<tuor>hi, how can i change the label of a partition?
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11:00<Artoo>tuor: man e2label
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11:01<blues76>Hi, I'm using Debian 8. I need to install my wireless card. here is the details I found. 4:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] [8086:0085] (rev 34)
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11:02<blues76>I'm looking at wiki.debian.org/WIFI/
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11:02<blues76>however, I'm trying to search for 6205 but I don't see anything
11:02<tuor>Artoo, thx.
11:03<duclicsic>blues76: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi
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11:04<attila_>hello everybody i have debian 7.7 i would like to upgrade to 7.8, how can i do it? apt-get dist-upgrade is right?
11:05<ixi>might want to read release/upgrade notes
11:05<duclicsic>attila_: pretty much
11:05<Veltas>apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
11:05<ixi>but yes, that's the general idea
11:05<Veltas>But read notes yeah
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11:05<Veltas>If it's your personal machine and like living on the edge just do it anyway
11:05<blues76>Thanks... I guess this will work with 8, right
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11:07<duclicsic>blues76: probably
11:07<blues76>It is funny. Someone told me to use 8 (testing) and it seems that it would had worked find in 7.
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11:07<petn-randall>blues76: Who told you that then?
11:07<duclicsic>blues76: just so you know, for support on testing you really want the channel #debian-next
11:07<attila_>thank you for Veltas
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11:08<Veltas>I provide Veltas to all those who ask for it
11:08<Veltas>Be warned
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11:08<blues76>duclicsic: Great to know.. I will do that.. I already have installed... but I just reinstalled. I installed kate and kill the whole system. so, now I have a new install.
11:09<blues76>But I had install the testing because someone in this channel suggested that for the wireless card i had it was better to use 8
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11:09<petn-randall>blues76: I don't see anyone saying that in the backlogs. Do you know who said that?
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11:11<blues76>I can't remember... it wasn't that long ago. Maybe a couple of weeks or less... but it is ok... if I have problems again, I will then go to 7. for now, I will keep 8.
11:11<blues76>maybe I was the one who misunderstood the statement
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11:12<petn-randall>blues76: Nevermind then. Jessie wouldn't be my pick to get to know Debian, but since it's frozen and changes have slowed down, I guess you'll get around to use it. :)
11:12<blues76>I guess 8, is not so unstable , so I should be ok. This is not a critial system
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11:12<blues76>pent-randall: So you think 7 was a better choice/
11:13<blues76>?
11:13<petn-randall>blues76: petn<tab>
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11:13<blues76>petn-randall : sorry
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11:13<petn-randall>blues76: 7 is stable. 8 isn't yet, and still has some RC bugs.
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11:14<blues76>Now, I'm thinking if I should install 7
11:15<petn-randall>blues76: If you've got a running system, I'd work with that for now. No need to reinstall unless you enjoy that activity.
11:18<blues76>petn-randall: I do not enjoy it... I will keep it for now. If I have another problem later, I will reinstall
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11:42<Blues76>Hi. I was able to install Kate. I can run it by typing kate in the shell or creating a luncher on the desktop.
11:42<Blues76>I can't seem to find it in the menu
11:42<Blues76>I also, I'm not sure how to associate the correct icon to the luncher... now , the one I created it has a blank page icon
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11:44<Blues76>sorry, I meant to say this in debian-next
11:44<Blues76>nevermind
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12:12<chappie>why am I unable to see either the package bastille or harden in synaptic package manager?
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12:20<mike>hello
12:20<Maulkin>chappie: What version of Debian are you running?
12:20<mike>;d
12:20<mike>me ?
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12:26<smacvar>eve
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12:41<bleb>I'm trying to learn to use debian without a full-featured desktop environment. When I need to look for wifi signals, I find myself having to logout and go into GNOME or MATE in order to select a network and get internet working. What's the best way to do all this via the command line?
12:41<jhutchins>,v bastille
12:41<judd>No package named 'bastille' was found in i386.
12:42<bleb>Is this a matter of learning to use NetworkManager or is there an alternative network management software I should look into?
12:42<acald3ron>install wicd or gnonet-network-manager
12:42<jhutchins>bleb: iwlist <iface> scanning
12:43<jhutchins>bleb: network manager also has a CLI interface (part of the base pacjkage).
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12:45<bleb>once I find a cell I want to try, how do I go about connecting? I guess that depends on the network manager I'm using?
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13:04<retrospectacus>bleb: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
13:04<retrospectacus>bleb: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
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14:53<sksksk300>Hello, I have a (hopefully) quick question: I want to install Debian with no network card support or ways to connect with other computers but sadly I found no way doing so. Now I wonder what I would have to delete from the system to get the desired result?
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14:55<mtn>sksksk300: why can't you install on that machine? if you get the dvds, you will not need a net connection, though you will also have no way to do security updates.
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14:59<retrospectacus>sksksk300: pull the ethernet cable or NIC out of the machine
14:59<sksksk300>mtn: After installing debian it has built in support for wifi and ethernet and the like
15:00<mtn>sksksk300: oh, that is what you are talking about. yes, just disconnect from the net.
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15:01<sksksk300>mtn: I want to have a debian unable to talk to the network card, not me manually controlling it
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15:01<retrospectacus>take everyting but lo out of interfaces. Use iptables to block all traffic. probably some kernel or bios ways too.
15:01<transiency_>lol lolo
15:01<valdyn>sksksk300: what is the point?
15:01<retrospectacus>sksksk300: anything you do could be un-done
15:01<retrospectacus>it is a strange goal
15:02<transiency_>who wants a nice steaming bowl of amphetamines
15:02<valdyn>pretty sure he cant do some things with a screwdriver or a hammer that cant easily be undone
15:02<sksksk300>retrospectacus: at least not over network then :)
15:02<valdyn>*can*
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15:02<transiency_>i discovered that by removing the impurities such as the iodo-<moleucule> it becomes almos tidnetity to mdma
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15:03<sksksk300>would it be a good start to delete/unload specific modules and packages?
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15:04<valdyn>sksksk300: you should tell us what your actual goal or reason for doing this is
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15:04<retrospectacus>sksksk300: stick some chewing gum in the ethernet port. Open the machine and cut the wifi antenna
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15:05<sksksk300>valdyn: my goal is do have a debian which is unable to talk to my network card, I dont think you need my reasons :)
15:05<blast007>sksksk300: get a system without any network hardware then
15:05<sksksk300>i know its amusing in these modern times, people. but if you can help, please do
15:05<valdyn>sksksk300: actually, we do, to give a useful answer
15:05<blast007>(and remove all USB ports)
15:05<valdyn>sksksk300: for all we know the chewing gum is probably a good idea
15:06<transiency_>man i buy such vast quantities of intoxicants it aweomse
15:06<retrospectacus>sksksk300: we've given lots of perfect answers. If you want different ones we'll need more background
15:06<sksksk300>nah, I am asking about software related issue in debian and you make fun of the question
15:07<sksksk300>retrospectacus: ok. so I guess the kernel controls and loads the communication between the system and the network card. What do I have to do to make it unable to do so?
15:07<retrospectacus>pop the network card out
15:08-!-mode/#debian [+l 708] by debhelper
15:08<sksksk300>retrospectacus: im searching for a software solution, hardware is not possible
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15:08<retrospectacus>"ifdown eth0"
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15:09<sksksk300>thats a start, thanks for the serious answer
15:10<mtn>I guess to make a car not burn gas, you would need to remove the intake manifold :P
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15:13<sksksk300>I'll ask again later, maybe someone who knows will be here.
15:14<retrospectacus>your question sucks
15:14<mtn>haha
15:14<valdyn>!xy
15:14<dpkg>People often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
15:15<valdyn>sksksk300: ^^
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15:15<retrospectacus>it is most definitely an xy problem :)
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15:16<felsenhower>I have the well known bug of nouveau with dual graphic cards, while installing Debian Stable on my machine
15:17<felsenhower>The error goes like this:
15:17<felsenhower>[1179.13123] [drm] noveau 0000:01:00.0: Unhandled PMC INT
15:17<felsenhower>Does anybody of you know a way to get it installed without having to remove my GPU?
15:18<felsenhower>GPUs are a GTX 750 ti and an Intel 4600 btw
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15:19<sksksk300>retrospectacus: its perfectly legit to ask how the system talks to a hardware component and how to interfere with it. your ignorance sucks.
15:19<valdyn>felsenhower: boot with the nomodeset parameter?
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15:20<retrospectacus>that isn't what you asked
15:20<mtn>sksksk300: I can assure you that retrospectacus is not ignorant
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15:20<felsenhower>valdyn I get up to the screen where you're able to select between live cd and installer. where could I start with parameters?
15:21<valdyn>sksksk300: its also perfectly legit to ask us about the reason for the life and everything, but we still cannot answer it usefully
15:21<valdyn>felsenhower: before that
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15:21<valdyn>felsenhower: hmm, or just there, unfortonately i dont really know the installers, its probably accessible through something like expert mode or advanced options
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15:22<valdyn>felsenhower: but then again, debian does not really have a live cd like that, are you using something *other* than debian?
15:22<sksksk300>if you dont know the answer maybe instead of making fun just dont answer. im sick of rudeness and answers like this
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15:24<retrospectacus>sksksk300: nobody made fun. We gave good answers and asked for clarification. Your belligerence and sense of entitlement led to "making fun"
15:24<felsenhower>valdyn I downloaded the ISO that was said to be a live cd from the debin page
15:24<felsenhower>debian*
15:24<valdyn>felsenhower: ok
15:24<valdyn>maybe someone else can assist felsenhower on adding a kernel parameter in the installer, i dont know it
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15:25<felsenhower>https://www.debian.org/CD/live/index.en.html
15:25<felsenhower>This one
15:25<valdyn>felsenhower: modprobe.blacklist=nouveau might also work
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15:26<valdyn>felsenhower: you can *also* change default gfx output in your bios.
15:26<felsenhower>valdyn I'm going to try both of them if I'm going to manage beng able to specify my parameters
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15:26<valdyn>felsenhower: like you can swith intel gfx off in your bios
15:26<felsenhower>the advanced options only lead to memtest86 and another diagnostics tool
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15:28<blast007>felsenhower: can you push the Tab key on either the Live or Install items in the boot menu and edit the boot commands at the bottom?
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15:37<felsenhower>switching to iGPU did something
15:37<awal>will wheezy kde run fine in a thinkpad intel core 2 , 2 gb ram (home use)?
15:37<felsenhower>the message got spammed a few hundred times, but at least it booted
15:38<felsenhower>and it says Gnome 3 failed to start, even though I clearly see gnome 3 in front of me
15:38<mtn>awal: 2G is pretty light for kde
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15:38<felsenhower>anyways, thank you guys, I don't know why I didn't come up with that idea
15:38<blast007>felsenhower: might it be using using Gnome Fallback?
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15:39<felsenhower>exactly, that's what I just fount out. it was cut off in the messae
15:40<ixi>awal I'd go with something smaller on 2g
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15:40<ixi>xfce
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15:41<awal>mtn, pretty sure yeah. ixi, i think xfce or lxde are a better choice, yes
15:41<awal>i just like kde because of the software quality
15:42<transiency_>oil is gonna be a 50% gain for me in theh next 6 months
15:42<transiency_>coupled with FTNT @1000 shares / 25.xx -> 31$
15:42<transiency_>im worth nearly 50k
15:42<transiency_>woot woot
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15:46<ixi>awal I don't think software from KDE suite requires running kde desktop
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15:46<ixi>you can just go and install it
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16:06<felsenhower>debian doesn't automatically do a uefi installation, does it?
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16:08<blast007>felsenhower: the live CD probably does not, but if you use one of the normal installer ISOs it should. I've done a UEFI install from the Wheezy netinst ISO, for instance.
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16:08<peter1138>You have to ensure there's an EFI partition, that's all.
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16:09<felsenhower>ok, I actually do not want to install the uefi version as plan to get coreboot/seabios soon
16:09<felsenhower>I plan*
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16:16<peter1138>Well, the only difference is grub-pc vs grub-efi, and you can change that whenever.
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16:22<awal>ixi, right. installing wheezy DE xfce now
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16:33<felsenhower>well...
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16:35<felsenhower>My gpu works badly and I want to install unfree drivers. To install, I have to be sudo. To add a duper user I have to log off. If I log off, my screen goes black and stays there with a black cursor >_<
16:35<felsenhower>super*
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16:36<ixi>felsenhower are you using debian
16:36<felsenhower>yes.
16:36<ixi>felsenhower do you know your root password ?
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16:37<felsenhower>yes, I do
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16:37<ixi>felsenhower enter in your terminal: su -
16:37<ixi>then give it your root password
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16:38<felsenhower>oh, I only knew the sudo prefix, thx
16:38<towo`>sounds like you want to do it wrong
16:39<ixi>felsenhower which gpu do you have
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16:39<felsenhower>towo` I'M a little ashamed myself, but I'm switching from Ubuntu
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16:40<felsenhower>ixi nvidia gtx 750 ti
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16:40<ixi>felsenhower do you have backports enabled?
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16:41<felsenhower>not afaik
16:41<ixi>felsenhower please pastebin output of 'apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-dkms'
16:41<ixi>to http://paste.debian.net/
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16:44<felsenhower>that pckg couldn't be found
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16:44<felsenhower>I can't install it via apt-get, can I?
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16:46<towo`>felsenhower, you need contrib and non-free in your sources
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16:47<towo`>felsenhower, but for you card, backports are nessesary
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16:47<felsenhower>ok, I'll try my best
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16:53<felsenhower>well, do I have to log off for the sources.lisrt
16:53<felsenhower>to take effect?
16:53<retrospectacus>no
16:53<towo`>you have to apt-get update
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16:53<felsenhower>ok
16:53<towo`>after changes on sources
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16:54<ixi>still wondering about that paste
16:54<felsenhower>hmmm, still can't find the package.
16:54<Oebele>is the set-up process of the nvidia drivers for jessie the same as for wheezy?
16:55<ixi>felsenhower would you pastebin your sources.list for us
16:55<ixi>and give a link?
16:56<towo`>Oebele, it's more easy than in wheezy
16:56<towo`>Oebele, in jessie you can do apt-get install nvidia-driver
16:56<ixi>different package name essentially
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16:56<Oebele>towo`: that's all? nice :)
16:56<felsenhower>the p
16:56<towo`>Oebele, besides of creating the xorg.conf snipped
16:57<felsenhower>(argh, notebook kb besides)
16:57<felsenhower>140836
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16:57<felsenhower>that's the paste
16:57<Oebele>towo`: the 'Configuration' step on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers you mean?
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16:58<mtn>felsenhower: need an actual web link ;)
16:58<towo`>Oebele, yes
16:58<felsenhower>paste.debian.net/140836
16:58<Oebele>okay, thanks!
16:58<ixi>felsenhower you have redundant entries
16:58<towo`>and no bacjports in
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16:59<towo`>s/j/k
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16:59<felsenhower>do I not need the last line?
17:00<ixi>felsenhower I'll give you the complete sources.list
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17:00<felsenhower>thank you :)
17:00<ixi>felsenhower are you in usa ?
17:00<koosha>I upgraded to 7.7 and the hibernate does not work anymore on my laptop. Is it a known bug?
17:01<felsenhower>again, it's quite uncomfortable to type atm, that's why it takes longer
17:01<ixi>koosha iirc yes
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17:01<felsenhower>ixi I am at Germany
17:01<Oebele>also, I wondered, I have enabled contrib and non-free with the line "deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free", do I also need to modify the jessie/updates, jessie-updates and jessie-backports lines?
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17:01<koosha>ixi: any patch in progress?
17:02<towo`>Oebele, no
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17:02<towo`>Oebele, there are no backports for jessie at all
17:02<ixi>felsenhower scrape your sources.list and fill it with http://paste.debian.net/140837/
17:03<ixi>then apt-get update
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17:05<ixi>koosha https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774436
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17:05<ixi>see comments
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17:06<felsenhower>ixi it still won't find the package even though I pasted it
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17:06<ixi>felsenhower pastebin complete output of what you're doing and including the command that you issue
17:06<felsenhower>it id saved
17:06<ixi>and give link to paste
17:06<felsenhower>my terminal is in german
17:06<ixi>shouldn't be rocket science.
17:07<felsenhower>but on apt-cache policy nividia-kernel-dkms it only says that the package could not be found
17:07<towo`>LANG=C apt-cache policy
17:08<ixi>felsenhower then you haven't updated your sources file properly.
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17:09<felsenhower>if i open up the file again, it says what you pasted
17:09<felsenhower>and i did update apt-get
17:09<towo`>nividia-kernel-dkms will never be found
17:09<ixi>^
17:09<ixi>also
17:09<towo`>the package is named nvidia-kernel-dkms
17:09<ixi>since you have backports already
17:09<ixi>you just can go and install nvidia-driver
17:10<felsenhower>ok...
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17:12<koosha>so how can I revert my kernel image to an older version?
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17:12<ixi>there isn't an 'easy' way
17:12<ixi>but you could use a snapshot.
17:14<ixi>koosha if you are looking for that hibernate fix I think the fix is already up at security repo 3.2.65-1+deb7u1
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17:14<ixi> *** 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 0
17:14<ixi> 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages
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17:14<ixi>at least it looks like so from where I sit
17:15<koosha>ixi: ok, thanks a lot
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17:19<felsenhower>paste.debian.net/140839
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17:19<felsenhower>m-a a-i nvidia logs this
17:20<ixi>why are you using m-a
17:20<felsenhower>after the nvidia-kernel-source could not successfully be built
17:20<ixi>and not apt-get install nvidia-driver
17:20<ixi>like I told you
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17:21<felsenhower>oh, sorry, I overread that, it's hard to focus on two screen, where you can barely reach one of them because of limited space
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17:23<felsenhower>well, nvidia-detect said, that I should install 340.125 or up
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17:23<ompaul>oh hang on
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17:23<ixi>felsenhower did you install nvidia-driver yet
17:24<felsenhower>no, I could not because that package contains 340.65
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17:25<ixi>felsenhower then apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms
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17:25<felsenhower>like I said before, that could not be found
17:25<ixi>yes, it can, you just misspelled it.
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17:26<ixi>if you can't spell it yourself, copy the command from irc
17:26<felsenhower>I checked every single letter
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17:26<felsenhower>I can send you a screenie if you want
17:26<ixi>pastebin is fine
17:26<ixi>paste all of the text including the command that you did and provide link
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17:28<felsenhower>hmmm
17:28<felsenhower>after restarting the console, it works
17:28<felsenhower>but I swear, that there was no spelling mistake
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17:35<sleser>when open dolphin just now after turning my pc on . error like , could not start process canot talk to klauncher mesage did not receive a reply timed out by message bus
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17:41<felsenhower>well, now, I start right into the console
17:41<felsenhower>I guess, I destroyed it
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17:43<felsenhower>but anyways, I have to get early
17:43<felsenhower>so good night, for now
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19:50<hdelamano>What log do I have to read when my computer doesn't wake up after standby?... so I forced to reset it.
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20:03<paxmark9>hdel Does your laptop reboot when awakening from suspend after a recent upgrade?
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20:37<awal>Which file i must cat for check the defaults set with update-alternatives without having to run update-alternatives --config xxx ?
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20:45<awal>I mean where update-alternatives stores the default alternatives (editor, session(window-manager...)? which file contains them?
20:45<jhutchins>awal: It's a set of symlinks from /usr/bin
20:46<abrotman>awal: update-alternatives --list xxx
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20:46<jhutchins>awal: try this: which editor
20:47<jhutchins>awal: ?
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20:48<awal>jhutchins, abrotman, ok, thanks. so there is no a special file where alternatives are stored?
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20:49<abrotman>awal: you want to know how a program installs itself as an option?
20:49<awal>yes, --list xxx works but it just list , it doesn't show the default
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20:50<jhutchins>awal: ls -l /etc/alternatives
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20:50<jhutchins>!alternatives
20:50<dpkg>i guess alternatives is the way Debian manages multiple applications with the same function. For more info, man update-alternatives. Have a look at the galternatives package or ask me about <update-alternatives> <java alternatives>. http://people.debian.org/~jwilk/alternatives/Contents has a recently created list of all the available alternatives-managed paths in Debian. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives
20:50<abrotman>awal: /win 1
20:52<awal>abrotman, no, i just installed various aaps with same function for test and want know which ones are set as default without running --congig
20:55<awal>jhutchins, 'ls -l /etc/alternatives' does the job yeah. its what i was looking. thanks
20:56<awal>thanks guys:)
20:56<ixi>awal update-alternatives --get-selections
20:56<ixi>try this
20:58<awal>ixi, good. it works too and "spams" less then ls -l ...
20:59<awal>thanks, ixi
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21:10<christian>hello
21:10<christian>using epic5
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23:44<spstarr>Question: How do I file a bug w/ wodim from Fedora world?
23:45<spstarr>I have a workaround for my DVD drive and would like to see of wodim can add a patch to detect it w/o setting it manually
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23:58<Bladerunner510>Hello
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