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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-01-16

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00:26<kaytortuga>where do you disable suspend for wheezy?
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00:27<kaytortuga>I have it disabled under advanced screen saver preferences, but that doesn't seem to be effective.
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01:11<awal>kaytortuga, depends on desktop environment you use. check system settings -> power/battery
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01:16<awal>kaytortuga, screensaver (xscreensaver ?) doesn't and can't suspend your machine, it just turn of screen and lock it if configured for that. probably you confuse suspend and screen blanking ...
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03:11<matlads>how do I connect debian via VPN to a Juniper SRX?
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03:48<salut>Hello I have just installed a debion on VB. I do not see where are the downloaded package. I have already seen on the default download file. I have downloaded from "apt-get install X".
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03:48<localhost>can typically run from terminal by typing in name of program
03:48<jm_>look in /var/cache/apt/archives
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03:49<localhost>or i guess that :P
03:49<wallah>join #lsirpz
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03:51<salut>thanks localhost
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03:51<salut>now I find the compressed packages.
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03:51<salut>But how to make my VM download on /download ?
03:52<jm_>download what?
03:52<salut>And on my old VM, I used not to have to uncompress them.
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03:56<localhost>anything i got with apt get i use by typing in the bin name aka name of program
03:57<localhost>in terminal
03:57<localhost>idk what u are even talking about in regards to apt get installing going to /download
03:57<localhost>but i am newish
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03:58<salut>"download what?" on download file by default.
03:59<localhost>things u download off of like websites go in /download by default
04:00<localhost>not stuff u apt-get install as far as i know
04:01<salut>okay
04:01<jm_>if you are talking about browser downloads and ~/Downloads that should be the default but can be changed
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04:03<salut>I know how to exctract a package alone but I do not for multi-packaging like it is on the archive file.
04:03<salut>And sometime the exctracting file have not executable.
04:04<jm_>why are you extracting it manually?
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04:06<salut>not manually : I just click right and click left on exctract here.
04:07<localhost>i thought u were talking about apt get dude
04:07<jm_>yes but why are you doing that?
04:07<localhost>that does not require extracting
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04:09<babilen>localhost: What are you trying to achieve?
04:09<localhost>what do u mean
04:09<jm_>babilen: salut, not localhost
04:09<babilen>yeah .. I figured that that added to my confusion :D
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04:10<salut>thanks and bye
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04:10<localhost>was gonna say help explain to this guy?
04:10<babilen>salut: So, you have installed software with apt-get and you don't know how to run it?
04:10<babilen>Ah well ...
04:10<localhost>aw
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04:11<localhost>i guess my explanation was bad he gave up
04:12<localhost>wasnt trying to be sarcastic or anything was actually trying to help oh well
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05:16<sagpatke>Hi! I'm trying to look for fonts which can show all Miscellaneous symbols of UTF-8 (http://jrgraphix.net/r/Unicode/2600-26FF). Is there a package which will help display all these characters in jessie?
05:17<jm_>ala gucharmap?
05:17<jm_>or are you looking for a font package itself?
05:18<sagpatke>jm_: font package should be good.
05:19<jm_>sagpatke: not sure on that onem, the one my browser uses shows all up to 26C4
05:19<jm_>some 5 of them before that number are missing too
05:20<sagpatke>jm_: Yes. Same here.
05:20<peter1138>I see all, but I don't know which font supplies them.
05:20<sagpatke>"aptitude search fonts | grep unicode" shows some packages.
05:21<peter1138>https://archive.org/details/Symbola
05:22<peter1138>I think it's that one on my system.
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05:23<peter1138>Ah, upstream is http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/
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05:24<stemid>I have a super strange permissions issue on a wheezy web server. user1 is in www-data group. chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/site1 && chmod -R 2770 /var/www/site1; then user1 creates a directory /var/www/site1/am and it has the same permissions as its parent but after root has chowned it to www-data user1 is unable to get back into the directory he created. and copying the dir to /var/www/am with the ex
05:24<stemid>act same permissions and user1 can access it... D:
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05:25<sagpatke>I guess the fonts are spread out across packages.
05:25<sagpatke>peter1138: Let me try symbola.
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05:32<sagpatke>peter1138: Symbola displays many more characters. Thanks peter!
05:32<sagpatke>I wanted to use one of the characters for my zsh prompt!
05:33<sagpatke>I'm guessing there should be no problem displaying characters in zsh now. I did use snowflake before.
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05:52<jm_>there's also google adobe font with wide unicode coverage
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07:59<user4>After burning all Debian 7.8.0-amd64 three DVDs and choosing "expert install" from the boot menu, I wanted to check the their integrity.
08:00<user4>After checking the first DVD, the installer says "please insert another DVD", but it doesn't eject the DVD when I press the eject button.
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08:00<user4>Is it necessary to have two DVD drives in order to check the integrity of multiple DVDs?
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08:01<petn-randall>user4: Sounds like a bug to me.
08:01<jm_>you are checking this from within the installer? as in, the installer has the option to do that?
08:02<user4>And besides that, I don't understand why the "check integrity" option is buried under "expert install" and not on the first boot screen...
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08:02<jm_>because one typically does this before booting it ...
08:02<user4>jm_: Yes, I booted the first DVD and checked it from the installer.
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08:04<user4>Oh well, it's probably fine. I just wanted to be sure it burned properly. I guess the integrity can also be checked against the ISO file somehow...
08:04<jm_>!check iso
08:04<dpkg>To verify you have a valid and official Debian CD/DVD image, see http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify . To test an ISO image was burned correctly, compare the output of «md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum». You should compare this md5sum to the checksum for the ISO image on the mirror. See also <check iso signature>.
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08:04<user4>Thank you. :)
08:05<jm_>no problem
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08:30<localhost>which would you make fun of more mac or windows :P
08:31<localhost>so much fail in both I'm not sure which is worse...I think mac is better cause at least unix though overpriced for aluminum cases
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08:44<stemid>Every OS sucks
08:46<friese>Except Plan9 - best OS ever ;)
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09:12<rfreeman-w>how to restart system after upgrade of kernel (automatically)?
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09:18<petn-randall>rfreeman-w: run 'reboot'. If that is too much work, some configuration management system might trigger that automatically on kernel upgrades.
09:19<rfreeman-w>petn-randall, upgrade is run from unattended-upgrades
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09:41<pier>!list
09:41<dpkg>pier: vedi http://packages.debian.org/
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10:06<smw>Anyone know of a way to get the latest version from a debian changelog?
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10:06<petn-randall>smw: 'apt-get changelog $foo'
10:07<smw>petn-randall, this is a non-compiled package. Pretty much, the idea is to throw an error if the build system tries to build a deb with the wrong version number.
10:08<smw>petn-randall, and I would rather not write my own parser (although I might have to)
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10:08<petn-randall>smw: In what way "wrong version number"? If you're using debian utilities to build a package, the version number will come straight out of debian/changelog.
10:09<smw>petn-randall, exactly, I need to know that the correct version is about to be built
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10:10<petn-randall>smw: So how do you want to determine correct?
10:10<smw>petn-randall, I am both upstream and the package maintainer. Both builds happen at the same time. I want to ensure my upstream version number is the same as the debian changelog
10:10<smw>petn-randall, pretty much make a warning for the release people that they forgot to update a changelog
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10:11<petn-randall>smw: Isn't that what a watch file is for?
10:11<smw>petn-randall, I don't know what a watch file is...
10:12<smw>petn-randall, I don't believe so
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10:13<smw>petn-randall, truthfully, I think I will just not require the release manager to update the changelog. I will automate it and be done with it :-\
10:13<petn-randall>smw: Maybe it's better to move this discussion to #debian-mentors. Looks like the topic is better suited there.
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10:51<hydrignis>Bonjour =) J'ai un petit soucis avec ma machine, j'ai une debian et windows cote à cote et quand je boot j'obtiens un message de grub rescue"error:file not found" je veux donc reinstaller debian pour remettre grub, le soucis c'est que mon pc ne peut pas pas être relié à internet et l'installation bloc à "configuration des sources APT. quelqu'un aurait une idée pour m'aider à m'en sortir ? Merci d'avance =)
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10:55<rfreeman-w>!fr
10:55<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr.
10:55<rfreeman-w>hydrazine, ^
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10:55<hydrignis>Désolé, merci
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11:10<hydrazine>rfreeman-w: you're hilighting the wrong person :)
11:11<rfreeman-w>oh right
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12:05<user549p20>i need help with linux mint
12:06<user549p20>where can i go for that?
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12:07<user549p20>hello?
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12:08<SynrG>!mint
12:08<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
12:08<SynrG>ah, seconds too late
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12:44<TrollHammaren>#python-br
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13:24<nardev>guys, could you give me just few tips
13:24<nardev>how to install debian on an HDD that i attached to a working machine
13:25<oldlaptop>you might find debootstrap useful
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13:25<nardev>is there any "image" that i can directly copy on a HDD
13:25<nardev>oldlaptop, oki
13:25<nardev>thnx
13:25<retrospectacus>yes, debootstrap
13:25<nardev>thank you both
13:25<retrospectacus>if by "working machine" you mean it isn't running windows :)
13:25<oldlaptop>that won't take care of the bootloader or anything, you'd have to install grub on the target drive later
13:25<nardev>of course :D
13:26<nardev>i'm so happy when i'm lost on somebodies win 7 or 8 :D i hardly remember win except through network :D
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13:51<Guest2147>hello, i have a few questions about my apt/sources.list and was just confused as to what i an running. I have both unstable and testing repos in there (honestly, I have no clue where the unstable one came from..smxi probably?)
13:52<Guest2147>i have done upgrades almost everyday until a few minutes ago when i noticed apt pulling updates from unstable repos
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13:52<Guest2147>http://pastebin.com/KrNRQnhk
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13:53<gnugr>Guest2147: are you new with debian?
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13:53<Guest2147>yes, i used ubuntu before..
13:54<gnugr>Guest2147: you better stay with one branch for instance with jessie which is about to be released
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13:55<Guest2147>okay, so can i just remove the line with unstable? What about the jessie-backports? Is it redundant as I use testing anyway?
13:55<gnugr>Guest2147: so, you better keep jessie lines in sources.list
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13:56<Guest2147>What about the packages which I have grabbed from unstable? Will those be affected in any way when I remove the unstable repo?
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13:57<Guest2147>should i also remove the backports lines, gnugr?
13:57<gnugr>Guest2147: yes
13:58<gnugr>backports are only for stable
13:58<Guest2147>okay
13:58<gnugr>and currently stablw is wheezy
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13:58<gnugr>*stable
13:59<Guest2147>okay, cool. Thanks gnugr!
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14:01<gnugr>Guest2147: also is good to have your apt.conf working (put in "APT::Default-Release "jessie"; "
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14:03<gnugr>Guest1124: https://wiki.debian.org/AptConf
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14:25<expr>hi,
14:25<expr>is there a way to use signed install media (which only seems to include cd images) or their content to install debian from a storage drive
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14:32<expr>like, can you boot a typical x86 computer from a disk drive like it was booted from a usb drive?
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14:38<mkol_ssn>hello i'm using debian wheezy and i need to install piklab which is only found in squeeze, how do i do this?
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14:44<blast007>mkol_ssn: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=711379 seems it was removed because it only supported KDE3 at the time. (also, seems it may be abandoned now - domain is gone, and last commit in late 2012, but you could try building from source if you really need it)
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14:45<retrospectacus>a squeeze VM might be the only way
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16:08<knight_>is it possible to get the current kernel configuration file from somewhere in the root filesystem?
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16:08<DusXMT>knight_: /boot/config-something
16:08<knight_>DusXMT, thanks
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17:36<knight_>hi when i install debian is the kernel built at install time according to my hardware ? or is the kernel pre built already?
17:36<centrx>pre-built
17:37<centrx>There are multiple pre-built kernels, one for each architecture, as well as variations
17:37<peter1138>Pre-built and modular.
17:37<ixi>knight_ it's prebuilt with most of the stuff as modules, and only modules required to run your hardware get loaded when you boot
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17:49<knight_>thank you, so are only the modules changing between different PCs of same architecture (also the additional selected packages) at installation time? are the modules installed separately from kernel by the installer according to hardware? sorry i'm new to these...
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21:26<awal>How to add a separator to the default fluxbox panel (tool bar)? The default "session.screen0.toolbar.tools: prevworkspace, workspacename, nextworkspace, clock, prevwindow, nextwindow, iconbar, systemtray". I want add "RootMenu" then separator/space before "prevworkspace" for avoid confusion because RoooTMenu, when added, looks like a right arrow key
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21:35<awal>'prevworkspace' looks like a left arrow key and 'RootMenu' like a right arrow key, so I'm usually confused. I want have the root menu in the panel (fluxbox have not that feature by default) because one need to switch to another virtual workspace or unmaximize the maximized window for display the root menu when using mouse or touchpad :(
21:38<awal>Also interested in adding the root menu to tint2 panel when in openbox session :)
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21:40<bugtraq>Hi
21:40<awal>No luck googling, so suggestions/ideas are really welcome ;)
21:40<bugtraq>Hola
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21:41<awal>bugtraq, do you have any related debian question?
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21:42<awal>for spanish #debian-es (posible soporte en español)
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22:23<AndyJ>Hi people, can anyone assist with getting Direct Rendering to work with an AMD HD6950 on Debian AMD 64? I can't find anything that looks like an error in Xorg.0.log
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22:25<AndyJ>glxinfo reports "direct rendering: no"
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22:27<dvs>AndyJ: Sounds like you need firmware-linux-nonfree from non-free
22:27<AndyJ>I have it installed.
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22:28<dvs>Hmmm... I can't think of anything else.
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22:30<AndyJ>glxgears is reporting 60 fps... :(
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22:33<mongrol>you have vsync on
22:34<AndyJ>vysnc?
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22:36<AndyJ>Ah "Running synchronized to the vertical refresh."
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22:37<ruinher>I need help
22:39<awal>I have a damaged file in my usb key. There is other files but they are fine. I want recover only the damaged one. It was created with gedit, leafpad or mousepad; so it should be a .txt file. How the recover it using photorec?
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22:53<awal>My key is mouted as sdb1. Usually I just run "photorec /dev/sd..." for recover entire device, but for a specific file in that device I dont know how it works :(
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23:00<goettD3cent>help
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23:52<centrx>!help
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