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---Logopened Mon Jan 19 00:00:34 2015
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01:19<adem>i am a fresh user of this whole linux debian os
01:19<adem>can anyone help me
01:19<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
01:21<adem>i installed some software that i cant use how do i delete this
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01:22<jm_>installed it how?
01:22<adem>by the software install/reinstall
01:23<jm_>I have no idea what that is, try being more specific
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01:27<adem>ok i sent you a screenshot
01:28<jm_>adem: can't dcc here
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01:29<jm_>adem: no, DCC won't work for me, use something like
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01:35<jm_>did that use dpkg?
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01:39<adem>i dont know what that is
01:40<jm_>look in dpkg logfiles as root: /var/log/dpkg.log /var/log/dpkg.log.1 - see if timestamps correlate to the time when you installed that
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01:43<centrx>Are you sure you're actually running Debian
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01:44<adem>:) yes debian 7 gnome 3
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01:44<adem>im really a new guy i dont know anything of linux etc...
01:45<jm_>adem: for your reference - use these tools in debian to install software
01:46<adem>ok thanks, i will follow the instructions
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01:47<jm_>now how to remove what you installed I have no idea since I have never seen the tool you used, but look in dpkg logs to see if it just used dpkg
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01:49<adem>ok i will do my best. sorry for the anoying questions
01:50<jm_>don't apologize
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02:26<CHVNX>Does anyone know how I can pipe espeak output through sox so that I can add reverb?
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02:27<jm_>no, but perhaps this part of the man page helps:
02:27<jm_> Write speech output to stdout
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02:48<awal>adem: are you using opensuse? the picture you pasted looks like YAST, the opensuse package management.
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02:49<awal>Oh, sorry, it's the gnome one :P
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03:03<thraul>I am currently running debian jessie on a system here that required it due to the MB being too new and the network card was not recongnised in wheezy. Will i need to reinstall the system when jessie is released to get all the benifits on the new system (systemd etc) or will a dist-upgrade do all this for me
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03:05<jm_>thraul: support for jessie is in #debian-next, you should not need to reinstall
03:05<thraul>ok thanks
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03:54<fr33domlover>when I insert a wifi usb adapter, no wlan interface is created for it
03:54<jm_>does the driver get loaded for it?
03:55<fr33domlover>jm_, now do I check? I just looked at dmesg and the previous "can't allocate URBs" is now replaced with positive messages
03:56<jm_>fr33domlover: lsmod shows loaded modules
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03:58<fr33domlover>jm_, seems to be loaded. Is there a chance setting the regdomain is the cause?
03:58<fr33domlover>I set it to IL (for my country) following instructions of thinkpenguin
03:58<jm_>fr33domlover: not sure on that, are you using debian or not?
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03:59<fr33domlover>jm_, I am, debian stable
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04:00<jm_>fr33domlover: what else do you see in dmesg output? use a pastebin (/msg dpkg paste)
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04:03<zeromon>How do I set the right parameter for "encrypt passwords" in smb.conf to enable encrypted password? true or yes? I am confused...
04:03<weasel> The values following the equals sign in parameters are all either a
04:03<weasel> string (no quotes needed) or a boolean, which may be given as yes/no,
04:03<weasel> 1/0 or true/false. Case is not significant in boolean values, but is
04:03<weasel> preserved in string values. Some items such as create masks are
04:03<weasel> numeric.
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04:04<jm_>zeromon: man page says "Default: encrypt passwords = yes"
04:04<jm_>so you should not even need to set it to yes
04:05<zeromon>jm_: really?
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04:05<zeromon>as default is it to set enabled?
04:05<zeromon>jm_: interesting..
04:06<fr33domlover>I'm not sure that is *all* the relevant parts - I can paste the whole dmesg if needed
04:07<zeromon>jm_: good to know. funny question but, how can I check man page for samba by the way..
04:07<jm_>fr33domlover: and you see no new interfaces if you run 'ls /sys/class/net'?
04:07<jm_>zeromon: man smb.conf
04:07<zeromon>jm_: thx
04:07<jm_>zeromon: also
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04:09<fr33domlover>jm_, I see wlan1. But I did try running `ifconfig wlan`, does it create anything?
04:10<fr33domlover>`ifconfig` shows just lo and wlan0
04:10<fr33domlover>(which is not the dongle)
04:10<fr33domlover>I meant `ifconfig wlan` up there, maybe it created wlan1?
04:10<jm_>fr33domlover: no, ifconfig won't create it, compare to ifconfig -a
04:10<fr33domlover>lol wlan1, not wlan
04:11<fr33domlover>ok, 1 sec... yep, not shows wlan1
04:11<jm_>so it's down (unconfigured)
04:11<fr33domlover>ifconfig -a shows wlan1
04:11<zeromon>is the samba server compatible with DOS?
04:11<fr33domlover>on trisquel with networkmanager it did work for me, so the device itself should be fine
04:12<jm_>zeromon: what do you mean? can DOS even do SMB/CIFS?
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04:12<peter1138>I don't think it can by itself.
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04:15<fr33domlover>jm_, if I boot without the kernel module for the internet wifi card but with usb dongle inserted, will it be mapped to wlan1 anyway?
04:15<fr33domlover>my interfaces file indeed doesn't configure wlan1 but I hoped it would get loaded as wlan0
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04:16<fr33domlover>since by default the internal wifi card's module is blacklisted
04:17<fr33domlover>I'll try to use wlan1, brb
04:18<jm_>fr33domlover: probably not, see /msg dpkg z70
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04:19<zeromon>jm_: DOS can't do SMB/CIFS, but DOS can use MS-LANMAN to communicate with samba. It's written Man page. But in may system, smehow it doesn't work.
04:20<jm_>zeromon: try #samba on
04:20<zeromon>jm_: thx. I will try to ask there..
04:21<fr33domlover>jm_, it seems to work now! thanks :-)
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04:21<jm_>fr33domlover: no problem
04:21<fr33domlover>jm_, at least I hope so. I did ifup wlan1=wlan0
04:22<fr33domlover>and then modprobe -r to remove the internal chip's module and wifi is still on
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04:23<fr33domlover>jm_, how can I be sure which one the wifi devices is being used?
04:24<fr33domlover>ifconfig and iw give lots of technical info
04:24<fr33domlover>too technical :-)
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04:26<jm_>fr33domlover: tools like tcpdump. jnettop, wireshark etc. can show you traffic on interfaces
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04:28<valdyn>fr33domlover: each network interface hardware piece gets its on unique name
04:28<valdyn>fr33domlover: blacklisting does not affect that
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04:31<valdyn>fr33domlover: so your next dongle will probably be wlan2 even if you remove the first dongle
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04:33<fr33domlover>valdyn, thanks
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04:34<fattaneh>hi all, is there any command in linux which can gather all metadata(size+owner+file name , ...) of files in a file?
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04:41<ArtooDetoo>fattaneh: files in a file?
04:41<fattaneh>no write the metadata of files in a file
04:42<fattaneh>i did it with ls but i want it to be realtime
04:42<fattaneh>what i did is this: ls -LR -li > meta-data-file.txt
04:43<fattaneh>but i want to change it, when a file created or deleted this file wont update automaticly
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04:48<jm_>fattaneh: you can try using incron or something similar
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05:25<ondrej_g>hi, is there some changelog server which lags less than ?
05:26<petn-randall>ondrej_g: Every package ships their own changelog, you can also use that.
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05:27<ondrej_g>yes, but I like to read the chnagelog before I update the package
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05:27<ondrej_g>today it was xdg-utils ... in the morning it seemed to be missing on the mirror, now it seems to be there
05:28<petn-randall>ondrej_g: You can use apt-listchanges for that. It'll show you the changelog and ask you if you want to upgrade.
05:29<ondrej_g>yes, aptitude uses apt-listachanges for that IIRC, but the rpobelm is that the changelogs are not on that server soon enough
05:29<ondrej_g>so, is there some other server?
05:29<peter1138>Hmm, but xdg-utils hasn't changed since Aug 2014.
05:29<ondrej_g>there was a security update
05:30<petn-randall>ondrej_g: apt-listchanges extracts the changelog from the package after download, so it'll always be up-to-date.
05:31<ondrej_g>petn-randall: that stil means I have to download the whole package ... nut a big problem, but since there already is a changelog server, why not make sure it works well?
05:32<ondrej_g>so is there some newer, faster changelog server?
05:32<peter1138>I don't think security updates make it there anyway.
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05:33<ondrej_g>ok ... well, is there some way to make the 'C' key in aptitude GUI useful then?
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05:34<ondrej_g>or at least to tell aptitude to only download the deb
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06:00<aborrero>after a Jessie netinst, where is the networking config stored?
06:01<jm_>for jessie support go to #debian-next
06:02<aborrero>ok thanks
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06:03<petn-randall>ondrej_g: That's what apt-listchanges is for, no need to duplicate it's use ...
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07:13<ondrej_g>any idea why xrand lists a HDMI output as disconnected even though I have no HDMI port? Could that mean my car has HDMI but just no port connected? This is an older notebook.
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08:09<petn-randall>ondrej_g: It might be that your graphics chip has a HDMI decoder built in, but the manufacturer of your notebook didn't pin it out.
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08:48<arunangshu>after installing zorin headphone jack is not working in windows please help
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08:49<abrotman>arunangshu: This is #debian, we don't support Windows
08:52<arunangshu>can you recommend any channel plz
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08:55<abrotman>arunangshu: ##windows on perhaps
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09:49<jalalsfs>What is the default bash in debian jessie?
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09:50<DarkUranium>jalalsfs, given that there's only one Bash, I guess the default Bash is Bash.
09:50<DarkUranium>it's like asking "what's the default Debian in Debian"
09:50<captnfab>you mean the version of bash in jessie? the default user shell in jessie? the default sh interpreter in jessie?
09:51*captnfab throws neutrons at DarkUranium
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09:52<jalalsfs>DarkUranium, I mean shell in debain.
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09:53<DarkUranium>jalalsfs, I'd assume it's dash
09:53<captnfab>dash is the default interpreter for /bin/sh, bash is the default user shell
09:53<DarkUranium>yeah, that too
09:53<jalalsfs>I got one feature doesn't work. "auto bash completion"
09:53<DarkUranium>system or user
09:53<DarkUranium>jalalsfs, but personally, if you're writing a script
09:53<DarkUranium>stick to Bourne shell
09:53<DarkUranium>(not bash --- that's Bourne *again* shell)
09:53<DarkUranium>(but just good ol' POSIX sh)
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09:53<jalalsfs>In fedora, the options of any command show me by using Tab button.
09:54<DarkUranium>captnfab, bash makes me sad =\
09:54<ixi>install package bash-completion
09:54<ixi>if you don't have it
09:54<DarkUranium>people who write supposedly portable scripts in bash, moreso.
09:54<jalalsfs>ixi, It's installed already.
09:55<ixi>put this in your ~/.profile
09:55<captnfab>DarkUranium: I'd say the sad things are bashism in /bin/sh scripts and /bin/bash posix-able scripts
09:56<DarkUranium>captnfab, that makes me even sadder.
09:56<DarkUranium>captnfab, yes, I saw that just recently, with glc
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09:57<DarkUranium>captnfab, its setup script wouldn't work in Debian because #!/bin/sh, but it uses arrays
09:59<jalalsfs>ixi, Thank you, it works now, how can I applied this to whole user including root?
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10:01<ixi>jalalsfs by having it in /etc/profile rather than in ~/.profile
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10:01<jalalsfs>ixi, Thanks a lot.
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10:05<jalalsfs>Does "bash-competion" don't work directly in debian because debian doesn't use bash?
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10:08<blast007>jalalsfs: you were told that bash is the default user shell in Debian
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10:09<jalalsfs>blast007, They said it's dash
10:09<blast007>nope. "< captnfab> dash is the default interpreter for /bin/sh, bash is the default user shell"
10:11<blast007>you are talking about an interactive shell (aka 'user shell')
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10:12<jalalsfs>Okay, but it's really confusing me, because I thought if it real bash which is running it should be run 'bash-completion' after install the package. Thank you blast007
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10:14<zeromon>Is there ways to share Samba shared folders with DOS 6.2?
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10:25<Brigo>zeromon, may be there is some DOS application samba capable, i don't know
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10:30<sagir3>hi everyone
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10:31<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
10:31<sagir3>does anyone here use an SD card to bootup their laptop/netbook? because i'm having trouble with systemd mounting the root filesystem read only when i boot from the internal SDcard reader.
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10:31<sagir3>when i use an USB-SD adapter, it is mounted normally
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10:33<sagir3>the problem lies with the systemd service systemd-remount-fs.service, i think
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10:34<sagir3>the filesystem on the SD card is btrfs
10:34<sagir3>i have btrfs-tools installed
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10:35<ixi>sagir3 so far you haven't actually desribed the 'problem'
10:35<sagir3>ixi, "does anyone here use an SD card to bootup their laptop/netbook? because i'm having trouble with systemd mounting the root filesystem read only when i boot from the internal SDcard reader."
10:36<ixi>"i'm having trouble" not defined
10:36<sagir3>the trouble is, the filesystem is mounted read-only
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10:36<sagir3>that is, only if the internal SD card reader is used. if u use a SD-USB adapter, it mounts as it should: read-write
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10:41<blast007>sagir3: is the read-only switch on the side of the SD card flipped to the wrong position?
10:42<blast007>(may be called "lock")
10:43<sagir3>blast007, it does have a switch, but it's for switching between SDHC mode and SDXC mode
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10:43<sagir3>i tried it on both modes, but the filesystem is still mounted read-only when i boot from it.
10:44<sagir3>it mounts normally if i use a USB-SDcard adapter
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10:46<sagir3>hold on lemme get a lspci -v of the cardreader
10:46<sagir3>err, lsusb i mean
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10:50<sagir3-hpmini>idVendor 0x058f Alcor Micro Corp.
10:50<sagir3-hpmini> idProduct 0x6335 SD/MMC Card Reader
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10:50<sagir3>^^ that's my internal SDcard reader on my hpmini
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10:50<sagir3>it mounts btrfs filesystems as read-only for some reason, even with the " -o rw.remount" flags
10:51<sagir3>i already did a btrfsck on the filesystem
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10:51<sagir3-hpmini>"exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only"
10:53<blast007>it is a full-sized SD card? and if so, you're sure there isn't a lock switch?[0].JPG
10:54<blast007>the USB reader may simply ignore the position of the lock switch
10:54<sagir3>blast007, yes, also, i think i found the problem. dmesg | tail gives me an error code 60: "The numeric code of the features is 60, that means: extended inode references and big metadata. As far as I can say, there is no way to disable extended inode references, thus you cannot make this filesystem readable by older kernels anymore."
10:55<sagir3-hpmini>[ 292.238031] BTRFS: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (60).
10:56<sagir3>i forgot to mention, i restored the tar backup from a clonezilla live CD, which used a really old kernel.
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10:57<sagir3>and most likely, it also used the old version of btrfs-tools
10:57<sagir3>the image on the SDcard is a tar backup that i restored of the same system when it ran on ext4
10:58<sagir3>anyways, i think i got it figured out now. thanks for the help. will let you know if the problem exists with a newer kernel and btrfs-tools formatted system
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10:59<sagir3>yeah, because the clonezilla image i used had a pretty old kernel, with experimental support of btrfs.
11:00<sagir3>the ISO i mean
11:00<sagir3>i used that live ISO to format the sdcard, so that explains it...
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11:03<sagir3>i just love tar backups. i just recently started using them, instead of clonezilla, like a week ago.
11:03<sagir3>much much faster than clonezilla imo
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11:19<valdez>im running gnome classic\debian wheezy is there a way to adjust contrast\gamma\etc. I tried running gnome-color-manager but maybe its only for gnome3
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11:21<sagir3>blast007, /picardfacepalm. it actually was my SDcard. the switch got flipped into read-only mode when being inserted into the reader.
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11:21<sagir3>i used tape to force its position
11:21<sagir3>now it mounts read-write :D
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11:32<Spork>Sup :)
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11:32<cockfuck>spork, i can see you.
11:32<dwaine>hey girls :)
11:32<cockfuck>hey babe
11:32<Spork>I can see u too :)
11:32<Spork>19 f cali
11:32<Apollo>!ops spambots dwaine cockfuck
11:32<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: apollo complains about: spambots dwaine cockfuck
11:33<dwaine>stop complaining i just want to make friends
11:33<cockfuck>me 2 :(
11:33<dwaine>wanna cyber?
11:33<Spork>Such sadness
11:33<Spork>doge so sad :(
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11:33<cockfuck>so when is anonymous going to al quida the nsa?
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11:34<abrotman>not funny
11:34<Apollo>thanks abrotman
11:34<dwaine>thanks abrotman, he was harassing me
11:34<Apollo>abrotman: you missed dwaine
11:35<Spork>Debian masterrace
11:35<Apollo>ah nope, nvm
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11:35<abrotman>dwaine: you were provoking
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11:36<ShitFace>Heil Hitler
11:36<Spork>mods mods mods
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11:36<abrotman>anyone else?
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11:36<rao>fuck u aborman
11:36<rao>fuck u abortman
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11:37<Spork>Hail Gentoo !
11:37<abrotman>Spork: Stop, not amused
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11:37<abrotman>or that
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11:38<debianne>hello :)
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11:40<koala>hey :)
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11:41*koala slaps Apollo around a bit with a large trout
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11:41<koala>unban our friends, from anonymous
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11:43<Jobbe_>Lol, stupid just got stupider
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11:43*petn-randall hands abrotman a medal for fighting today's trolls.
11:43<Jobbe>How is people in the world of Debian this fine monday
11:43<Apollo>Jobbe: might want to stick to #debian-offtopic
11:44<Apollo>or whatever the chat channel is
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11:44<Jobbe>Apollo: alrighty :)
11:44<captnfab>this looks like an IRC implementation of "Mole Attack"…
11:44<Maulkin>Huh. Not quite sure what happened with the cloak there.
11:44<abrotman>no need to comment ..
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11:44<abrotman>Maulkin: I was going to ask arma
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11:46<ondrej_g>hi, xrandr seems to list a HDMI output, but I have no HDMI port ... could that mean my card might have HDMI crcuits, just not a port?
11:46<cocobutter>Apollo, hotstuff is trolling, could you ban?
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11:48<petn-randall>ondrej_g: Check your backlog, I already answered your question.
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11:51<ondrej_g>petn-randall: thx, missed it
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11:52<ondrej_g>petn-randall: so do you think there is a chance I might be able to pin it out myself?
11:52*ondrej_g is not an experinced HW hacker, but can solder stuff
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11:53<retrospectacus>ondrej_g: I'd ask ##hardware on freenode about that
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11:53<ondrej_g>retrospectacus: thx
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11:54<petn-randall>ondrej_g: I doubt it. You have fairly high frequencies on things like HDMI, soldering probably won't do it. YMMV.
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11:54<ondrej_g>petn-randall: thx for the feedback
11:55<ondrej_g>I'm considering bying a new laptop becaus of HDMI, but the current one just works so well with stable
11:55<petn-randall>ondrej_g: Good luck, tell me if you found a way through ##hardware :)
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11:56<ondrej_g>anyone know about SDHC support in Debian? or am I better off with a normal HDD and lots of RAM?
11:56<ondrej_g>sry, SSHD
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11:57<petn-randall>ondrej_g: I'm not sure what sshd and HDDs have in common ...?
11:57<menace>Hi, i have to debianize a semi-propretiary thirdparty software.. for the installation i did override_dh_auto_build for the build/install process. Now i have the problem, that the program wants to install some files in /usr/share/applications. and install initfiles in /etc/init.d. Any Idea how to handle this?
11:57<retrospectacus>ondrej_g: ITYM SSD
11:57<ondrej_g>SSHD is what a HDD with a small SSD cache (but only visible to firmware) is called
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11:58<retrospectacus>oh... sshd is actually the secure shell daemon around here
11:58<ondrej_g>I know, that'đ why I used capitals
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11:59<petn-randall>ondrej_g: Indeed, very unfortunate acronym. Since it's transparent to the OS, it should work fine.
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12:00<ondrej_g>well, it'đsnot really that transparent in the sense that the firmware decides what to load into the cache, not the OS
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12:01<ondrej_g>usually some special driver is needed. I saw some mention of patches getting into 3.19 kernel, wondering if they might get backported to stable
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12:01<petn-randall>ondrej_g: Probably not, but you can still run 3.19 without problems.
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13:23<centrx>yes we are here
13:24<Biomass2857>I've got a question, I've an USB stick and i want to install the live dvd of Knoppix 7.4, but if i want to boot it doesn't work. Can you help me?
13:24<centrx>There is some special way to make USB sticks bootable, but I'm not familiar with it
13:25<Biomass2857>yes, i think it's the filesystem
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13:25<Biomass2857>but everything should work because with some another linux distributions it works
13:26<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. unofficial: <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems.
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13:26<dondelelcaro>Biomass2857: see above; we don't really support Knoppix here.
13:27<Biomass2857>wow ok i'll check the next channel, but thank you for your time
13:27<Biomass2857>bye :)
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13:28<centrx>looks like it should be
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13:29<dondelelcaro>dpkg: knoppix =~ s/
13:29<dpkg>dondelelcaro: OK
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13:30<centrx>thanks, I have to read more bot-docs
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13:35<rajulocal>apt-cache man page lists --installed as one of the options supported. However, I am getting an error when I tried to use that functionality. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
13:36<rajulocal>% apt-cache search --installed konsole
13:36<rajulocal>E: Command line option --installed is not understood
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13:36<beepie>for blacklist modules in jessie, is the directory now /etc/modules-load.d ?
13:36<centrx>rajulocal, The man page implies it only applies to apt-cache depends and rdepends
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13:37<rajulocal>centrx: Oh ok. Thanks. I missed that piece of information.
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13:38<rajulocal>centrx: Is there any way to limit the "apt-cache search" to installed packages? May be there is some other utility that can do this?
13:40<centrx>rajulocal, dpkg -l |grep X will work for searching installed package names and short descriptions (but not the long description)
13:40<centrx>it sounds like a reasonable feature request
13:41<rajulocal>yeah, that is my impression as well. I currently cut the first column of output of "apt-cache search" then run it through "dpkg -l | grep ^ii". But that is cumbersome to do everytime.
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13:41<rajulocal>I will put in a feature request.
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13:48<evo7>hello folks
13:48<evo7>I have a question about beef-xss
13:49<evo7>anyone have some spare time ?
13:49<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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13:52<evo7>My problem is that only I can access the demo pages .... :D
13:52<mju>evo7: beef does not seem to be in debian...
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13:53<retrospectacus>evo7: see <ask> for help on getting help
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13:58<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on See <smart questions><errors>.
13:59<retrospectacus>and yes, beef-xss is not in debian... best to locate a beef IRC channel. It seems likely you are not actually using Debian, in which case we can't help you here.
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14:09<rajulocal>One question about reportbug. When I used "reportbug -k" to send kudos to zsh package mantainers, in the last step "Connecting to via SMTP", it is unable to finish the transaction.
14:10<rajulocal>the blue bar just keeps oscillating left to right but nothing happens further.
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14:11<rajulocal>I know the SMTP connection is just fine because I was able to report just couple of minutes ago.
14:11<veco>Boa tarde
14:12<veco>to com um problema na instalacao do mySQL alguem pode me ajudar?
14:12<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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14:14<canaima>im julian from Venezuela
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14:15<canaima>any body speak spanish?
14:15<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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15:05<mtn>BlueWaffle: hi, do you have a debian question?
15:06<BlueWaffle>Can you Fuck?
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15:33<jojo>hello everybody
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16:36<allen>How do I find out what kind of compatibility Debian has with a specific model of Wacom tablet I am looking to buy?
16:36<Brigo>allen, the kernel
16:37<Brigo>allen debian wheezy ships kernel 3.2 but you can install 3.16 from backports -at least-. If the hardware is supported by those kernels, debian will support it.
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16:39<allen>Thanks, I'm on Testing so I have 3.16, but there is more to consider than the kernel, right? When I search packages for "wacom" a few different ones show up, providing different support for the tablet. Is there an easy way to know if those packages combined or working together will give a complete or good enough experience for a given tablet model?
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16:52<Brigo>allen, you have to know the tablets and the packages and i do not know both, :)
16:53<allen>thanks anyway, I was hoping Debian documentation or some page exists with some comments on which tablets are fully working under the packages, that sort of thing
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18:23<rijo>hey whats a decent and easy to use firewall for a desktop running testing? since I hear that firestarter from stable messes up with systemd...
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18:28<devil>rijo: what makes you think you need one on a desktop system?
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18:42<rjsalts>rijo: I use fail2ban
18:42<rfreeman>rijo: I would change systemd to something normal, perhaps that can solve your problem
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18:43<rfreeman>devil: it has obvious security benefits to firewall your computer
18:44<Brigo>rijo, afaik systemd will not touch your network configuration if you do not install networkd, of course.
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18:45<rjsalts>rijo: the package description for firestarter says it's old and abandoned and you should check out gufw
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18:50<rfreeman>how to make dns queries use TCP?
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18:51<DNS> /nick TCP and then query me
18:51<DNS>;) jk
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18:51<NewbieBoy98>"E: unable to locate package gnome" any help
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18:52<DNS>newb: apt-cache search gnome desktop
18:52<abrotman>newb: pastebin your sources.list
18:52<abrotman>DNS: it already doesn't exist ..
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18:53<newb>nothing came up when i typed it in
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18:53<abrotman>newb: pastebin your sources.list
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18:53<newb>i just copied everything from here...
18:53<abrotman>almost like a pastebin ..
18:54<newb>except i put contrib non-free behind all the lines
18:54<MTecknology>I just installed Debian 8 on a rather old desktop. The VGA controller is "NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6100 nForce 405] (rev a2)". It seems perfect and great until I try to open iceweasel and then the display goes ...crazy?... (white with black chinese script looking characters). I'm trying to figure out how to fix this. I'm pretty terrible at solving graphics issues.
18:54<abrotman>newb: Did you run 'apt-get update' after doing that?
18:55<abrotman>newb: show us please (
18:55<mtn>MTecknology: did you look at the debian wiki on nvidia?
18:55<newb>not sure how to paste the screen in here @abrotman
18:55<newb>its on a diff pc
18:56<abrotman>newb: if you run 'apt-get update', are there any errors?
18:56<newb>yes. for every line
18:56<abrotman>so you did'nt type it in correctly?
18:56<newb>could not resolve [url]
18:56<newb>i copied it exactly..... ill check again thoug
18:56<mtn>no internet on that box?
18:56<abrotman>newb: Does your DNS and/or networking work correctly?
18:57<newb>probably not.
18:57<abrotman>newb: dig @
18:57<newb>i have it hooked up with an ethernet cable but thats about it
18:57<MTecknology>mtn: I didn't, but I found it now. It looks incredibly relevant. :)
18:57<mtn>MTecknology: might help ;)
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18:58<newb>abrotman: should i put that in my /etc/network/interfaces
18:59<MTecknology>Could we just burn nvidia and make it go away? :)
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19:00<MTecknology>I have to share the proc this is running... 2GHz single core AMD Sempron LE-1200. Lovely, huh? I'm surprised it can even handle 64bit. :P
19:00<abrotman>newb: uhm, no, but does it work?
19:02<newb>bash: dig: command not found
19:02<newb>so no
19:02<abrotman>newb: host
19:03<newb>command not found either
19:03<abrotman>how did you install this?
19:03<newb>abrotman: something might be wrong witht my /etc/network possibly???
19:04<newb>i didnt really set it up
19:04<DNS>sudo ifconfig
19:05<newb>sudo doesnt do anything- im on root
19:05<DNS>yea this shows your network controllers
19:06<newb>should i put the inet addr in the /etc/network/interface?
19:06<newb>not sure what im lookin at then
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19:07<rjsalts>rfreeman: dig +tcp
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19:07<rfreeman>rjsalts: yes that works and resolves, but how to configure system to always send queries using tcp
19:08<rjsalts>rfreeman: you're running a local caching resolver?
19:08<rfreeman>rjsalts: no but I could
19:08<abrotman>newb: can you run 'dhclient eth0' ?
19:08<rjsalts>rfreeman: and why would you want the extra overhead of tcp?
19:08<rfreeman>rjsalts: doing some special network settings, I want only TCP to go out from this computer
19:09<abrotman>that sounds like a good way to break a lot of things :)
19:09<newb>abrotman: yes, not sure what it did tho. last two lines it printed where "failed to get attributes"
19:09<rfreeman>only dns broke
19:09<abrotman>at the moment ...
19:10<newb> such file directory
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19:10<abrotman>newb: did you run it as root?
19:10<DNS>yea im broke :/ i need € lol
19:10<newb>abrotman: yes im pretty sure.
19:10<rfreeman>abrotman: yes I'm aware, but still
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19:10<abrotman>newb: be sure
19:11<newb>abrotman: i logined into my acc first but then logged into root after. restarting to log into root straight away
19:11<rfreeman>DNS: sell bitcoins
19:11<rjsalts>rfreeman: maybe you could get a firewall match rule to respond with an empty answer and the TC bit set to every DNS query
19:12<newb>abrotman: ok im root for sure now
19:12<rjsalts>rfreeman: oooh, I might have it
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19:13<abrotman>newb: so try it
19:13<newb>abrotman: just did dhclient eth0 got one line of code: "[numbers]: firmware agent aborted loading rtl_nic/r...[stuff] (not found?)"
19:14<abrotman>sounds like you need firmware for internet
19:14<abrotman>do you have a USB drive?
19:14<abrotman>or is it a newly installed system?
19:14<abrotman>can you do a re-install?
19:14<newb>i installed it with a dvd
19:14<abrotman>(without losing data)
19:14<rjsalts>rfreeman: you can use RPZ
19:14<newb>theres no data anyways :/
19:15<abrotman>newb: this is wheezy?
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19:15<newb>abrotman: yes
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19:15<abrotman>newb: on a box that has internet, get this file
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19:16<abrotman>newb: put it on a USB drive, ensure the file is there
19:16<newb>does it have to be usb or can it be a cd
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19:16<newb>i have an empty cd right next to me
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19:17<abrotman>it cna be, but it's a waste of a CD
19:17<newb>the cd is shit anyways
19:17<rfreeman>rjsalts: any hints how? maybe unbound
19:17<abrotman>well, it will be useless after that
19:17<abrotman>usb stick is easier
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19:18<newb>i already had some files in the cd that i deleted off of it. i hope the cd can still work
19:18<rfreeman>huh... in order to have the tool "dig" I need to install dns-tools, which also installs server bind9 ?
19:18<rjsalts>rfreeman: look for the section on RPZ
19:19<rjsalts>rfreeman: there is a TCP-Only policy
19:19<newb>abrotman: cd in. what do?
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19:21<newb>u still there abrotman
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19:22<newb>brb getting food
19:22<retrospectacus>newb: install the deb file with "dpkg -i"
19:23<newb>retro: error: intsall needs atleast one package archive file argument
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19:24<retrospectacus>you can do this newb, I believe in you
19:24<cheesepufftyler>is there a way to run minecraft with kali linux??
19:24<dpkg>Kali Linux ( is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on or . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
19:24<newb>< read the name retro :/
19:25<cheesepufftyler>so is there a way at all??
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19:25<blast007>cheesepufftyler: I don't know why you'd run it on that distro.. that's rather specific to pentesting and other vulnerability testing. Why not run it on Debian?
19:25<retrospectacus>cheesepufftyler: we don't know - this is #debian, not "kali"
19:25<cheesepufftyler>so they have a kali server??
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19:27<rfreeman>cheesepufftyler: people here took oath to reply only about Debian questions, not Kali Linux questions
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19:27<cheesepufftyler>ok peace homie!
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19:33*MTecknology wants to murder nvidia
19:33<abrotman>newb: mount it, install the .deb file
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19:40<newb>im back
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19:41<newb>abrotman... dont get mad but....... how do i install it
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19:42<abrotman>newb: dpkg -i whatever.deb
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19:43<newb>fuck. an error.
19:44<newb>maybe i shouldve renamed it
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19:44<newb>hold on
19:45<newb>calling it "firmwaredownload"
19:45<abrotman>you can use tab completion ?
19:45<newb>.....................oh yea
19:45<newb>*gun pointed at head*
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19:47<newb>still not working. getting usb drive
19:47<newb>i think its the shitty cd
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19:48<retrospectacus>you should ask us for help instead of just alerting us of what you're trying next
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19:50<newb>i will
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19:50<newb>just keepin u up to date with my shinanigans
19:51<newb>tab isnt autofinishing it. is it not reading my usb?
19:51<blast007>did you change to the correct directory or at least provide the full path to the file?
19:52<retrospectacus>tab completes filenames of files in your current working directory (print this with "pwd")
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19:53<newb>ok... so is it dpkg -i /(name of usb drive)/(name of file)?
19:53<newb>or am i lost
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19:53<retrospectacus>first the usb drive must be mounted
19:54<retrospectacus>then you can find its mount point with "mount" command
19:54<retrospectacus>it will be something like /media/E4F2/
19:56<Brigo>lsblk could helpl too
19:57<rijo>Thanks for the replies about the firewall. Had to step away and just read everything now...
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19:58<newb>retro: unclear with how i mount it
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19:59<abrotman>newb: dmesg | tail (do you see a mention of sda or sdb? )
19:59<retrospectacus>if it is not mounted, I would go ahead and try "mount /dev/sdb /mnt/"
19:59<newb>i was just about to type that @retro
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20:00<retrospectacus>newb: /dev/sdb is the device node which you can discover with abrotman's suggestion
20:00<abrotman>depends how many other drives he has
20:00<retrospectacus>it could be /dev/sdc1 or various options like that
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20:01<newb>it was sdb, so i entered and a lot of text came up. is there something i should be looking for
20:02<newb>it says i have to option to give a device a name
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20:02<retrospectacus>words you can read and comprehend/act upon would be good
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20:03<abrotman>we can read .. not so much concerned about him :)
20:03<newb>it just printed out a bunch of options like "one can change the type of mount containing the directoru dir:" amd "one can change the type of all the mounts in a mount subtree containing the directory dir"
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20:04<retrospectacus>what command did you enter?
20:04<abrotman>newb: mkdir /tmp/usb_drive && mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /tmp/usb_drive
20:04<newb>mount /dev/sdb /mnt
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20:05<abrotman>newb: did that work?
20:05<newb>should i do sdb or sdb1
20:06<newb>nothing happened.
20:06<newb>are those 2 seperate codes?
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20:06<retrospectacus>dpkg: congratulate newb
20:06<dpkg>Huzzah newb, you did it!
20:06<newb>: ()
20:07<abrotman>newb: cd /tmp/usb_drive
20:07<retrospectacus>now if you change directory to the mount point you will be able to see your files ^^
20:07<abrotman>newb: ls *.deb
20:07<abrotman>newb: do you see the file you want?
20:08<newb>cd/tmp/usb_drive : no such file directory
20:08<newb>slow down here guys
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20:08<abrotman>newb: the space is important
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20:08<newb>ok ok
20:08<abrotman>newb: cd /tmp/usb_drive ; ls *.deb
20:09<newb>found it!
20:09<abrotman>newb: dpkg -i firmware<tab><enter>
20:10<abrotman>Does that work?
20:10<newb>you bet your sweat ass it does
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20:10<newb>no homo
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20:10<abrotman>both may apply .. ewww
20:10<abrotman>newb: all done? did the package install?
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20:10<abrotman>newb: if so, "shutdown -r now"
20:11<newb>dont see any errors
20:11<abrotman>(when the system POSTs, pull out the USB drive)
20:11<newb>wait posts?
20:12<newb>i dont know what that means
20:12<abrotman>whne the BIOS comes up
20:12<newb>i pulled it out before login screen
20:12<abrotman>okay, can you login?
20:12<abrotman>and can you run apt-get update?
20:13<newb>fuck. still gives me errors
20:13<newb>failed to fetch
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20:14<retrospectacus>can you ping ?
20:14<newb>is there any hope left
20:14<newb>ill try
20:15<newb>ping: unkown host
20:15<abrotman>newb: dhclient eth0
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20:16<newb>long pause, and then nothing printed
20:16<newb>ping google worked this time.
20:16<abrotman>newb: good, let's do a few things
20:16<abrotman>newb: first, let's get you a GUI
20:16<abrotman>maybe just network-manager will fix all your woes :)
20:16<newb>first, how do i stop pinging XD
20:17<abrotman>(said no one ever)
20:17<abrotman>newb: ctrl-c
20:17<newb>ok. time to do gui stufffs
20:17<abrotman>newb: apt-get update (does it work this time?)
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20:18<newb>it only worked for one of the links i think
20:18<newb>but some are still failed to fetched
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20:18<newb>the links
20:18<newb>didnt work
20:19<abrotman>okay, let's fix your internet first .. type: echo "iface eth0 inet dhcp" >> /etc/network/interfaces
20:19<retrospectacus>n1 sounds like a typo
20:19<abrotman>you MUST use both ">"
20:19<newb>it could have been ni or nl
20:19<abrotman>it's nl
20:19<retrospectacus>it is supposeto be a country code.
20:19<newb>i just copied this code in the link
20:20<retrospectacus>nl for netherlands, or use your own country's code
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20:20<abrotman>(really should just use
20:21<newb> correct?
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20:22<newb>hold on
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20:23<newb>hit everything
20:23<newb>one error
20:24<newb>still going
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20:24<newb>fuck lots of errors. failed to fets
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20:24<newb>some packages wernt found
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20:25<abrotman>newb: apt-get install irssi (does that work?)
20:26<newb>the odds are never in my favor
20:26<retrospectacus>newb: it is hard to say what the problem is without more info. basically your file has an error or two. Make it look like this....
20:26<retrospectacus>!wheezy sources.list
20:26<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb wheezy main" "deb wheezy/updates main" "deb wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list".
20:27<abrotman>newb: those are the lines you sohuld have above .. only those three lines to start with
20:27<abrotman>(the ones in quotes but wihtout the quotes in the file)
20:27<abrotman>newb: delete all the other lines you have in that file
20:28<retrospectacus>transcribe very carefully. If it doesn't work we will only be able to say "check it again"
20:28<newb>i left some lines the same i think that was why, but still changing one sec
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20:31<newb>it worked!
20:31<newb>should i apt-get install gnome now?
20:33<retrospectacus>if that's the desktop environment you want, and your hardware can handle it, then ok... it will take a long time
20:33<retrospectacus>!install gnome
20:33<dpkg>To install GNOME: «apt-get install …» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>.
20:33<abrotman>newb: apt-get update && apt-get install gnome gdm3 xorg
20:33*abrotman prays there is no nvidia/ati card in this thing
20:34<newb>i already updated so i will install gnome gdm3 xorg
20:34<MTecknology>I have an "NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6100 nForce 405] (rev a2)" card. I'm using Debian 8. I tried installing nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms. I get the message that the nvidia module can't be found when restarting (in the X log). I'm not sure what else to try.
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20:35<newb>i lost all my porn files doing this so debian better be good >>>
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20:35<newb>im at 10% and i will check back in when its done
20:36<MTecknology>data loss is the fault of the person not backing up data properly
20:36<retrospectacus>oh the humanity!
20:37<newb>it was useless data
20:37<newb>i dont ever use the laptop anymore anyways
20:37<MTecknology> <-- what I installed, and I see "GeForce 6100 [C61]" listed in the package description. So, I assume that's exactly the driver that I need.
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20:38<abrotman>(assuming the descriptoin is up to date)
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20:44<MTecknology>It's probably a pretty safe bet. The package actually checks to make sure your card will be supported by the driver
20:45<retrospectacus>the installation as per the wiki (nvidia dkms method) worked OK?
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20:48<newb>it got to the end and said failed to fetch
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20:49<newb>it says try run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing
20:49<MTecknology>Install build-essential, linux-headers-amd64, then install nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms, let the driver compile, create/edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf, reboot. That whole bit seemed to work perfectly well. Then reboot and it screams about not finding any nvidia driver.
20:49<MTecknology>retrospectacus: ^
20:51<retrospectacus>newb: "apt-get update" and try the install again (it will not take nearly as long ...hopefully)
20:51<acald3ron>this is my guide in spanish for nvidia drivers
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20:52<acald3ron>add "contrib" "non-free" repos
20:53<newb>apt-get install gnome gdm3 xorg
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20:55<cheesepufftyler>im a noob and i need help connecting to the Kali Linux server
20:56<dpkg>Kali Linux ( is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on or . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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20:56<daniel_keke>glad to meet you
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21:01-!-mode/#debian [+b *!*@] by abrotman
21:01-!-mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman
21:01<abrotman>debchange: you don't love me anymore?
21:02<abrotman>themill: it stopped asking for reasons?
21:02<abrotman>newb: yes
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21:02<MTecknology>retrospectacus: I don't suppose you have any other tips for something I probably missed?
21:03<abrotman>"Buy Intel video cards"
21:03<retrospectacus>MTecknology: well, put the log on, could help
21:04<MTecknology>If I had a video card, I'd just stick that thing in here and be done. It's really not worth the cost of the cheapest video card I could possibly find.
21:06<MTecknology>I decided that I probably did enough to wreak havoc in the X configs just by running the nvidia tools. I started reinstalling. I'm going to run off quick and see if I happen to have a video card laying around. I don't think so, though.
21:08-!-mode/#debian [+l 665] by debhelper
21:10<MTecknology>... I think I just found the magic ticket!!!
21:10-!-SamB_laptop [~SamB@2001:470:1f07:57:c4f0:7bd6:44ee:e92b] has joined #debian
21:11<abrotman>golden ticket?
21:12<abrotman>newb: how's it going?
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21:13<MTecknology>a completely different system with much better specs just laying around the office. :D
21:13<MTecknology>no need to run home and I might just go office space on this sucker I've been fighting with
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21:15<newb>still downloading
21:15<newb>seems to be going smoothly
21:16*MTecknology is still stuck at downloading too... :(
21:16<newb>doing english homework in the meantime
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21:20<newb>its done
21:21<newb>javaldx: could not find a java runtime enviorment
21:21<newb>what do i do now abrotman
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21:23<MTecknology>Do you have a jre installed?
21:23<abrotman>newb: what are you trying to do now?
21:23<newb>im not sure
21:23<newb>was going to ask you wat to do next
21:23<newb>could i do startx now?
21:25<MTecknology>holy crap installing debian on a system with 2GB RAM and a single core 2.00GHz proc is painful!
21:25*abrotman would probably just reboot
21:25<abrotman>MTecknology: I have a 486 you can play with
21:27<MTecknology>Once it finishes, I'll stick the drives into this faster system I found. :)
21:27<MTecknology>I just don't feel like starting over
21:28<newb>i rebooted and a gui showed up
21:28<newb>this is ground breaking progress
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21:29<abrotman>welcome to 1996
21:30<newb>any tips on what to do next?
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21:31<MTecknology>My mind keeps telling me that the 1990's and the 2000's weren't that long ago
21:31<abrotman>newb: break it, fix it .. repeat
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21:32<newb>i mean like, formatting and stuff
21:32<abrotman>formatting of what?
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21:33<newb>idk ive never used linux
21:33<newb>theres 4 pages you can have?
21:33<abrotman>not pages, desktops, and yes
21:33<abrotman>you can have more if you want
21:34<newb>what would be the first thing youd if you got a new computer with debian
21:34<newb>youd do
21:34<newb>get chrome?
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21:36<abrotman>chromium is already packaged
21:37<newb>ok. how do i connect my laptop to the internet without connecting it to a cable
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21:37<abrotman>does it have wireless?
21:37<newb>it should. i have wifi
21:38<abrotman>newb: lspci -nn | grep -i net
21:38<abrotman>see a wireless controller?
21:39<newb>hold on
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21:39<newb>console is hard to find
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21:40<newb>ok where is console lmao
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21:40<abrotman>newb: hit the "Win" key, and type "term"
21:41*abrotman thinks that works in Wheezy
21:41<newb>it aint
21:41<newb>lemme google
21:41<MTecknology>*grumble* Apparently after sticking the drives in this computer, I get just a blinking cursor.
21:42<MTecknology>maybe that's why this computer was in the scrap pile...
21:42<abrotman>newb: look for an Applictions menu
21:42<abrotman>hit the Win key first
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21:44<Finetundra>how would I set up an FTP server on a debian wheezy install
21:44<newb>found terminal
21:44<abrotman>Finetundra: first, do you actually need one? They're very insecure
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21:45<abrotman>(by design, not because of security faults)
21:45<abrotman>nope, that doesn't sound better :)
21:45<newb>typed it in abrotman now what
21:45<abrotman>newb: what does it say?
21:45<newb>two lines, one says ethernet controller
21:45<abrotman>what does the other say?
21:45<newb>other says network controller
21:45<Finetundra>abortman, quite honestly if you have something better in mind that does the same thing and doesn't need a downloaded client, I'll take it.
21:46<newb>i tried setting up a network just a min ago
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21:46<newb>under wireless networks on top right it says "device not ready (firmware missing)
21:47<dvs>newb: we need the numbers inside the []
21:47<abrotman>Finetundra: HTTP server?
21:47<abrotman>newb: or at least the descriptoin
21:47<abrotman>no, it's like 2345:2652
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21:48<abrotman>newb: also, you can run "update-pciids" as root to get a better description maybe
21:48<Finetundra>abortman lets hear it
21:48<newb>10ec 8136 for ethernet that worked
21:48<abrotman>Finetundra: install apache or nginx
21:48<newb>and 1814 5390 for wireless
21:48<newb>pls dont hax me : ()
21:48<abrotman>configure it correctly, no one needs passwords to download
21:48<dvs>,pciid 1814:5390
21:48<abrotman>judd: pciid 1814:5390
21:48<judd>[1814:5390] is 'RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe' from 'Ralink corp.' with kernel module 'rt2800pci' in wheezy. See also
21:48<judd>[1814:5390] is 'RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe' from 'Ralink corp.' with kernel module 'rt2800pci' in wheezy. See also
21:48<Finetundra>abortman, apt-get install apache?
21:48<abrotman>Finetundra: if oyu know how to configure it, yes
21:49<chip>g'morning all <3
21:49<abrotman>Shoulnd't the firmware-realtek already have the firmware fo rthat?
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21:49<newb>wait so what should i do then
21:50<abrotman>newb: Can you IRC from that box?
21:50<Finetundra>abortman, no clue. If you wouldn't mind walking me through I'd love to hear it
21:50<Finetundra>mornin chip
21:50<newb>id have to plug it back into the cable one sec
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21:51<abrotman>Finetundra:, tons of docs
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21:51<newb>does voip work or should i download another program
21:52<abrotman>let's fix one thing at a time
21:52<newb>just asking if its an irc client
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21:53<abrotman>xchat or hexchat or weechat should be available
21:53<abrotman>or maybe even pidgin
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21:56<newb>wait a minute could i just type apt-get install xchat?
21:57<abrotman>try it and see!
21:57<dvs>syntax error! ;-P
21:58<newb>permission denied. need to be root
21:58<newb>how does one become root/
21:58<newb>without restarting pc
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22:00<newb>sudo doesnt work
22:00<Finetundra>abortman, do you know of a graphical frontend for apache?
22:00<dvs>newb: su -
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22:01<newb>oh baby its workin
22:02<dvs>newb: now run "addgroup <user> sudo" so you can use sudo. Where <user> is your normal user ID.
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22:03<abrotman>Finetundra: no
22:04<newb_>wow give 650 people my ip thats cool
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22:04<Rylee>and herein we see a deep misunderstanding of what you can actually do with an IP
22:05<newb_>well you know where i live though
22:05<newb_>thats creep enuf
22:05*dvs bungies off of the gateway arch
22:06<newb_>abrotman what did you say about sudo i left on my other pc
22:06<newb_>dvs i swear >_>
22:08<Finetundra>on a different note, does anyone know what the minimum requirements for KDE are?
22:09<MTecknology>yup, that computer is dead.
22:09<newb_>07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:5390]
22:10<newb_>for wireless
22:10<Finetundra>MTecknology, what?
22:10<MTecknology>Turns out, I just need to buy the cheapest possible vga controller I can find... :(
22:10<MTecknology>Finetundra: I got fed up fighting nvidia but don't have any video cards laying around or I'd just stick one of them in there.
22:11<abrotman>MTecknology: use 'vesa' ? :)
22:11<MTecknology>will vesa work like magic with nvidia cards?
22:12<MTecknology>I was trying to use whatever is default and things worked fine until I tried to launch specific applications, then the display went kaboom.
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22:13<abrotman>MTecknology: it might, and nouveau might even owrk
22:13<MTecknology>I think nouveau is what it was using
22:14<abrotman>this is wheezy or jessie?
22:15<newb_>in the /etc/apt/sources.list. is doing a # just like doing a // in java?
22:15<newb_>i only know java so :3
22:16<MTecknology>I don't think that's anything to be proud of... :P
22:16<newb_>i cant save my changes i have to be root. what do?
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22:16<MTecknology>newb_: did you *just* install debian?
22:17<dvs>newb_: Yes, you have to be root
22:17<MTecknology>Did you select a desktop environment to install?
22:17<dvs>MTecknology: Gnome
22:18<MTecknology>then what are you fighting with? :S
22:18<MTecknology>log in with your user account, do things, log out
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22:19<MTecknology>he's having issues with wireless?
22:19<dvs>MTecknology: trying to get it working
22:21<newb_>i think it worked
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22:21<newb_>thanks abrotman for all the help
22:21<newb_>and also dvs a bit
22:21<MTecknology>abrotman: I'll try vesa tomorrow. If that doesn't work, I'll probably give up and go get a new graphics card.
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22:43<newb_>openvpn hides my ip correct?
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22:51<newb_>why is chat kill
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22:59<newb_>does wheezy come with java?
22:59<newb_>i want to see if i can play minecraft
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23:01<blast007>newb_: try installing openjdk-7-jre
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23:05<krc>Hi, I am wondering if anyone has advice on debugging really hard intel gpu driver-related freezes. The screen gets corrupted, and the machine hangs so hard even kdump doesn't work (it is working otherwise, poking it with altsysrq-c works fine)
23:06<birch>krc what does altsysrq-c do?
23:06<krc>crashes the kernel for testing
23:07<krc>and when I do that, kdump works fine
23:07<planet>is there anyone in here that has some experience with debian on atmel avr32 devices? the link to the port is dead on the debian main page
23:07<krc>so it is setup correctly. but it doesn't work when this bug freezes the system
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23:17<newb_>minecraft runs like a dream
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23:20<newb_>i can run it at a beautiful 5 fps
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23:27<blast007>newb_: you may just not have 3D accelerated graphics working
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23:33<genesis>for a demo
23:33<genesis>i need few old windows viruses
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23:34<Guest2525>any one on
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