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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-01-21

---Logopened Wed Jan 21 00:00:37 2015
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01:23<Hadddd>Hey, how do I set Ubuntu so that I can use mouse-keys?
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01:26<Hadddd>Okay I guess they're all dead.
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04:03<mine>hello
04:03<mine>this chat not response fast
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04:05<peter1138>mine, do you have a Debian support question?
04:05<mine>ys
04:05<mine>if u can answer me
04:05<babilen>mine: It is really quite hard to answer a question that has not been asked
04:07<mine>i cant play nfs game on linux ubuntu
04:08<jm_>!ubuntuirc mine
04:08<dpkg>mine: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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04:12<mine>no response
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04:28<mine>i want to play league of legends
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05:49<xreal>After waiting for 10 hours in #debian-live, let me ask my question in here: When using ip=frommedia in boot parameters, my system hangs some seconds for "starting enchanced syslog" - why? When giving the IP directly, everything works very quick...
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06:17<RockeyDA>so, im new to irc. so am i connected right good to go online-a-mundo?
06:18<jm_>depends on what you expect from 'online-a-mundo' - this channel is for debian support
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06:25<RockeyDA>oh.well
06:26<RockeyDA>if this is for support? do you know how to make steam work with wine? i herd wine these days is capable of pushing 3d games.
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06:27<jm_>for debian? try this https://wiki.debian.org/Steam
06:29<RockeyDA>nah, i wanted to try to run it in wine to see if i could get windows exclusive games like wreckfest to work.
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06:30<jm_>yes, wine on debian as opposed to other linux distributions which are not supported here
06:31<RockeyDA>also i guss im in the wrong place to, becase im using mint 17 on this rig
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06:32<jm_>!mint
06:32<dpkg>Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>.
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06:32<jm_>that should help
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06:32<RockeyDA>D: no far cry 3 on this os,
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06:33<RockeyDA>hmm, looks like only my valve games are valible
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07:47<aleza84>Hello
07:47<aleza84>anyone with Mips experience?
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07:53<ArtooDetoo>aleza84: just ask
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07:56<daemonkeeper>What would be a modern way to give a signal with out of the bios speaker upon acpi events? My laptop does not by itself and I'd like to beep when the power cable is unplugged, when it's going to sleep etc.
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07:57<aleza84>ArtooDetoo: Thanks
07:58<khalil>Hi all. I have a problem when installing Debian 7.8.0 from DVD on HP ProLiant Server Gen8. After the end of the install, the server restarted, than I select OS Debian from GRUB menu but the screen turn to black and nothing happens. After few minutes, the screen go to sleep. (The installation of Debian was successful in global. Juste I didn't install network configuration due to DHCP server
07:58<khalil>problem and I choosed guided partitioning)
07:58<aleza84>I am trying to get started into debian MIPS, I know my way aroung regular linux archs, I got a present, a Cobalt Qube Server…. according to documentation, Debian Cannot be installed into this one… nevertheless, the disk I got inside it, it has already running Debian. I wanted to do a fresh install… but a i am a bit lost on the MIPS procedure
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08:00<peter1138>Cobalt Qube... they're rather old. What version of Debian is on it?
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08:03<jm_>daemonkeeper: there's also pc speaker driver, you should be able to use any alsa tools when that's in use
08:03<aleza84>peter1138: Yes… really old… I have the disk now connected to my computer, is there a way to check the version on some file_
08:03<aleza84>?
08:03<jm_>daemonkeeper: that was supposed to say there's ALSA PC speaker driver
08:04<peter1138>Er, /etc/debian_version
08:04<daemonkeeper>jm_: Let me rephrase: What would trigger the speaker event these days? I'm not catching up anymore what's the purpose of HAL, udev, consolekit and god knows what else anymore.
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08:04<aleza84>peter1138: 4.0
08:04<peter1138>hal is obsolete.
08:05<khalil>any one can help me please...
08:05<jm_>daemonkeeper: ahh, for that look at tools like laptop-detect and how they do it, but I don't know if this qualifies as modern (if it's about acpi there's always acpid)
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08:07<peter1138>Hmm, Debian 7 appears to support mipsel.
08:07<daemonkeeper>So cool kids still use acpi for that?
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08:08<peter1138>I don't know anything about the install process though.
08:08<petn-randall>khalil: press 'e' in grub, and remove the 'quiet' option from the kernel line.
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08:11<khalil>Thank you petn-randall for your response. I already did this 2 times, but I got the same behavior : juste 1 line appear in the screen (like when the OS start loading packages) then the screen turn black and nothing happens. The screen go to sleep after few minutes.
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08:12<jm_>khalil: have you tried disabling KMS? or a newer (read bpo) kernel?
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08:14<petn-randall>khalil: The kernel should spit out at least a few lines before failing to boot, this is unusual.
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08:15<jm_>also try reconfiguring grub to not use gfx mode
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08:17<khalil>Yes, it spit 2 ou 3 lines (not just 1) then the screen turns black. All of this happens in a split second
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08:17<aleza84>peter1138: thx
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08:19<khalil>Someone said me that may be this is due to RAID configuration. It is not well configurated for the server (which have a physical one). Is it an issue ?
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08:19<khalil>jm_ : how can I procede to reconfigure the grub ? I don't have any experience on this.
08:21<petn-randall>khalil: I doubt it's a RAID issue if your screen turns black.
08:22<jm_>khalil: you can edit /etc/default/grub and then use update-grub (see info grub -> Configuration -> Simple configuration) or for playing, edit it directly /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but then don't run update-grub
08:23<jm_>i would commend everything in load_video() and "set gfxmode=640x480" and all "gfxterm" lines to start with
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08:24<jm_>looks like the easiest way to get rid of that is to set GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console in /etc/default/grub
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08:28<khalil>jm_ : Can I run this changes from the grub command-line ? (By pressing "c" button on grub menu) . I doubt that I can access to the directories "/etc/..." and "/boot/..." from the grub command-line terminal. The OS is not loaded so I can't navigate in.
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08:30<jm_>khalil: not sure if one can reverse effect of set gfxterm and gfxmode afterwards, you could try loading the kernel and initrd manually using linux16/initrd commands (pass vga=ask to kernel)
08:30<jm_>but I have to run now, sorry
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09:02<[UP]Crystal>Hi folks! How can I check if this wifi adapter "ASUS PCE-AC68" is supported by Debian ?
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09:06<Maulkin>!BCM4360
09:06<dpkg>The Broadcom BCM4360 (PCI IDs 14e4:43a0, 14e4:4360) is an 802.11ac (a/b/g/n compatible) wireless LAN chip, found in the MacBookAir6,1 (11") and MacBookAir6,2 (13") mid 2013 laptops. Supported by Broadcom's proprietary driver since version 6.30.223.126 (packaged in Debian <testing> as broadcom-sta). There is currently no mainline Linux kernel driver supporting BCM4360-based devices.
09:06<Maulkin>[UP]Crystal: See that ^^
09:07<[UP]Crystal>Thanks a lot!
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09:44<MTecknology>I managed to get nvidia working on this effing computer!!! :D Many million thanks to the smart people that made that possible!
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10:06<Raven|2>hi, i have a problem with my grub. RAID+LVM work perfectly. But sda is broken. I want to install grub on sdb before reboot... but it's impossible :'(
10:07<teward>is it correct procedure to use done and wontfix to close a wontfix bug?
10:07<teward>in the bts
10:07<Raven|2>grub-install /dev/sdb answer me : error: unknown LVM metadata header.
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10:55<teward>is there an easy way to pull a list of bugs that match a specific criterion in the BTS and then pick a random subset of that data? Without me downloading the raw bts data
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11:00<gloriousgeorges>Hi
11:00<supaplex>so, I can List the configuration files managed by ucf, but I'm not sure how to check on other packages. I want to target backups to the releases of packages I'm using, and config files not already present in the package.
11:01<gloriousgeorges>aptitude why ufc ?
11:02<gloriousgeorges>you will get all the dependencies
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11:03<supaplex>huh?
11:04<gloriousgeorges>huh forget what i said
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11:07<gloriousgeorges>3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux
11:07<gloriousgeorges>means what ?
11:07<blast007>Linux kernel build/version information
11:08<gloriousgeorges>3.16.0-4 plus debian patch ?
11:08<supaplex>kernelver compil# smp=multi cpu/core, debian deb-veriso date cpu/platform Linux (google: "uname man page")
11:09<gloriousgeorges>right
11:09<gloriousgeorges>thanks
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11:10<supaplex>np
11:10<supaplex>in other news, tikiwiki is antisocial during it's setup phase. still not working hah. ugh.
11:13<gloriousgeorges>i still a question but it's related to math
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11:16<petn-randall>gloriousgeorges: Is it related to Debian, too?
11:17<gloriousgeorges>petn-randall nope
11:17<blast007>supaplex: for me, I just back up /etc as a single archive. I also use etckeeper to track configuration changes. And I use something like this to dump out installed software (and versions) when I do my backups: aptitude search --disable-columns -F '%p %V' '~i!~M!~v'
11:18<gloriousgeorges>petn-randall your name quite a blast
11:18<petn-randall>gloriousgeorges: Indeed. You can try ##chat if your question is not topic to any other channel.
11:19<gloriousgeorges>petn-randall it's about factorizing
11:19<blast007>though that aptitude search only dumps out manually installed packages, not dependencies. Removing the !~M part of the search would pick up both manually and automatically installed packages
11:19<gloriousgeorges>petn-randall do you know that ?
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11:29<supaplex>blast007: gratzi. I'll save that for my notes. :)
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11:47<asklepian>I'm a little bit confused about the install ISO's
11:47<asklepian>there are ISO sets for CD's and DVD's
11:47<asklepian>but is there a complete install ISO?
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11:47<asklepian>one that I would put on a USB?
11:47<asklepian>...and that would include a b43 wireless driver?
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11:49<mtn>asklepian: disk one is the install disk or you can use a netinstall. no one iso has everything. I don't think any iso has the broadcom drivers.
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11:51<acald3ron>i used net install.
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11:51<asklepian>the only problem with a netinstall is that I need the broadcom driver for wifi
11:52<asklepian>it's very difficult for me to get a wired connection
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11:55<asklepian>also, what's the difference between the regular DVD ISO's and the updates?
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11:56<mtn>asklepian: the updates have updates since the distro was released. less upgrading after install
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11:57<asklepian>mtn so I would use those in place of the regular ISO's or after them?
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11:57<mtn>asklepian: in place of
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11:58<bluenemo>I'm trying to change kernel.random.poolsize to 16k, but it seems sysctl wont let me, $? is 0 but the value doesnt change
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11:59<blast007>!firmware images
11:59<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
11:59<blast007>asklepian ^
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12:00<mtn>blast007: does that image have broadcom drivers?
12:00<asklepian>blast007 so, this ISO would allow me to access to use the netinstall?
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12:01<asklepian>blast007 to access wifi to use the netinstall*
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12:12<blast007>not sure, but at least a better chance than the images without firmware
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12:44<xreal>I am confused... What shall I use? Anything works! http://pastie.org/pastes/9847938/text
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12:45<xreal>fixed: http://pastie.org/pastes/9847938/text
12:46<petn-randall>xreal: So you're looking for a problem?
12:46<xreal>petn-randall: Actually, the problem are the HowTos on the web, which mix those things :)
12:46<xreal>petn-randall: Some guys -t proc and --bind the rest, some do some binds before and inside the chroot etc.
12:47<xreal>I like to do it BEFORE the chroot. It's easier to unmount them.
12:47<petn-randall>xreal: They all achieve the same goal, so they're interchangeable.
12:47<xreal>petn-randall: but you can't detect mounts on the host, when they're done inside the chroot.
12:48<xreal>petn-randall: when doing "mount -t devpts none /dev/pts" in chroot, I can't find it outside doing "mount".
12:48<petn-randall>xreal: Sure, it's the same kernel. It just won't get updated in /etc/mtab, but that's a different thing.
12:48<xreal>petn-randall: so, doing it outside is better to administrate?
12:48<xreal>better <=> easier
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12:49<petn-randall>xreal: I usually bind mount them into the chroot, because that's easier done in a bash loop. It's really just a matter of taste though.
12:49<xreal>petn-randall: you also can do this outside: "for f in proc sys dev/pts ; do mount --bind /$f chroot/$f ; done"
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12:50<xreal>petn-randall: thanks for your help of course :)
12:50<faheem>Hi. in http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/180312/4671 someone is having problems with proxy settings. which were fixed by adding a trailing slash. this doesn't seem right.
12:50<xreal>petn-randall: Another question: when mounting /dev to chroot and I remove the chroot without unmouting, will it remove anything?
12:50<xreal>"rm -rf chroot/"
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12:52<petn-randall>xreal: Yeah, that'll probably wipe /dev.
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12:52<xreal>petn-randall: hell no :D
12:52<xreal>petn-randall: thanks for your help :D
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13:14<xreal>petn-randall: which one do you like more? http://pastie.org/pastes/9848010/text
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13:21<xreal>petn-randall: where are you? :D
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13:33<asklepian>ok, the netinstall ISO isn't automatically detected on system boot, how do I tell a linux system to boot using the netinstall ISO?
13:34<asklepian>...in general
13:34<blast007>asklepian: what media type are you trying to boot from?
13:34<asklepian>USB
13:34<blast007>and how did you prepare the USB stick?
13:35<asklepian>sudo dd if=/net/install.ISO of /dev/disk2 bs=1m
13:35<asklepian>(I'm on a mac)
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13:35<blast007>are you trying to boot it on the mac?
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13:35<asklepian>but I have a previous version of another distro installed on the machine I'm trying to install
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13:36<asklepian>it has EFI firmware
13:36<blast007>are you trying to boot it on the mac?
13:36<asklepian>normally, no
13:37<blast007>well, on most PCs, they either have a way to temporarily pick a boot option (some hotkey during startup, usually an F key) or they'd at least let you alter the boot order in the BIOS
13:40<blast007>the manual for your computer or motherboard would likely cover the specific method
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13:43<xreal>petn-randall: upate: while read _ path _; do [[ $path = */chroot* ]] && echo "$path"; done < /proc/mounts
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13:54<gloriousgeorges>yo
13:54<gloriousgeorges>i'm back
13:54<gloriousgeorges>didnt succeed to filter IRC channel how i want
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13:55<gloriousgeorges>i think it's the place to put our music fingerprint
13:55<gloriousgeorges>anyway
13:56<gloriousgeorges>i can try
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14:01<gloriousgeorges>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TgkJsTKF_E
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14:02<gloriousgeorges>is there anyone hre , who know maths ?
14:02<gloriousgeorges>i have a question
14:03<gloriousgeorges>it's about factorizing
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14:07<gloriousgeorges>okay l'ets say i want to factorize (18x+9) (4x+3) +(18x+9) (x)
14:07<gloriousgeorges>how i litterally write it ?
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14:08<gloriousgeorges>commmon factor is (18x+9)
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14:09<gloriousgeorges>is it ?
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14:10<gloriousgeorges>is it possible ?
14:11<gloriousgeorges>to factorize it anymore ?
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14:14<centrx>oh my
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14:15<gloriousgeorges>https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6TgkJsTKF_E&x-yt-cl=84359240&x-yt-ts=1421782837#t=891
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14:16<gloriousgeorges>centrx , do you know how you factorize (18x+9) (4x+3) +(18x+9) (x)
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14:18<gloriousgeorges>instinct told me (18x+9) x (4x+3 x1)
14:18<gloriousgeorges>and i think i miss the point
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14:23<centrx>!debian
14:23<dpkg>methinks debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
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14:24<gloriousgeorges>https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6TgkJsTKF_E&x-yt-cl=84359240&x-yt-ts=1421782837#t=1414
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14:25<Maulkin>gloriousgeorges: Can you take this to #moocows please? This channel is for Debian support.
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14:26<gloriousgeorges>Maulkin moocows ?
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14:28<retrospectacus>!chat
14:28<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or #defocus on irc.freenode.net.
14:29<gloriousgeorges>mooooooo
14:29<gloriousgeorges>coooooows
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14:30<gloriousgeorges>didnt have his answer
14:30<gloriousgeorges><---- didnt have his answer
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14:32<petn-randall>xreal: Err, glad to see you're happy. Thanks, but I'm fine. No need to highlight me with crazy ideas of how to print your mounts.
14:33<gloriousgeorges>no answer
14:34<gloriousgeorges>i'm angry :-[
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14:34<petn-randall>gloriousgeorges: This is a Debian support channel. Would be great if you could take it to the #moocows channel, or ##chat.
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14:35<ampleyfly>I'm trying to debug a problem with mounting two raid1 + encrypted drives (the UUID is not found). When I had this problem before, after a few tries, I got dropped to an initramfs shell where I could try to assemble the raid
14:35<ampleyfly>that doesn't seem to happen now, just an infinite loop of retries
14:37<ampleyfly>is there some way to force a shell in the current state?
14:37<gloriousgeorges>https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6TgkJsTKF_E&x-yt-cl=84359240&x-yt-ts=1421782837#t=2190
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14:39<petn-randall>ampleyfly: What exactly is looping then? Is this on wheezy?
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14:41<ampleyfly>petn-randall: I think it's LVM trying to find a drive by UUID. It needs to be assembled first, since it's a raid1 array
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14:42<ampleyfly>it seems to just retry forever, obviously not finding the drive
14:42<ampleyfly>this is on jessie
14:42<petn-randall>ampleyfly: Oh, in this case head over to #debian-next.
14:42<ampleyfly>hm ok, thanks
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14:57<asklepian>how do I list what groups a user is in?
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15:00<retrospectacus>"groups"
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15:02<asklepian>retrospectacus ok, this is odd then... my /etc/sudoers file contains sudo as a group that can execute any command
15:02<asklepian>I've added my user to the group sudo
15:02<asklepian>and that is indicated by the command "groups"
15:03<asklepian>however, when I execute sudo it says that I'm not in the sudoers file
15:03<asklepian>...???
15:07<jhutchins>asklepian: Have you run newgrp or logged out and logged back in?
15:07<asklepian>jhutchins I haven't done either
15:07<asklepian>let me try logging out
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15:08<asklepian>also, how do I permanently add a line to grub at boot?
15:09<asklepian>also, logging out didn't work
15:09<asklepian>newgrp didn't wither
15:09<asklepian>either*
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15:17<jhutchins>asklepian: What does happen when you try to use sudo?
15:17<asklepian>jhutchins "user is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."
15:17<jhutchins>asklepian: Make changes in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub.
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15:18<jhutchins>asklepian: Try putting your username in sudoers explicitly (use visudo).
15:18<asklepian>jhutchins I'd prefer to use groups like sudo or wheel
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15:19<asklepian>jhutchins is that no possible?
15:20<blast007>asklepian: had you used the 'visudo' command to edit the sudoers file? is the line for the sudo group uncommented?
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15:20<asklepian>blast007 yes and yes
15:21<asklepian>blast007 this is how the line is written: sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
15:22<blast007>there's the problem. put a % at the start.
15:22<asklepian>ok
15:22<asklepian>&sudo means group sudo?
15:22<blast007>you gave rights to a *user* named sudo, not a group. :) the % makes it refer to a group. and no, %sudo means group sudo, not &sudo
15:23<asklepian>ahh, ok
15:23<asklepian>thanks everyone!
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15:38<jhutchins>asklepian: Yes, groups work, but at this point you're testing.
15:39<asklepian>jhutchins testing?
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15:39<jhutchins>asklepian: Figuring out what's wrong. I have an idea.
15:39<asklepian>jhutchins blast007 solved it for me see above
15:39<jhutchins>Ah, which I see blast007 confirmed.
15:39<asklepian>jhutchins thanks though! I appreciate your help!
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16:30<asklepian>ok, where do I go to install nmcli in debian?
16:30<asklepian>I tried ap-get install nmcli but it wasn't found
16:31<peter1138>It's part of the network-manager package.
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16:35<asklepian>thx
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16:47<freyr>does jessie provide sysv-init support?
16:47<devil>freyr: sure does
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17:20<asklepian>what's the best pastebin program for debian?
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17:24<asklepian>also, I'd like to setup a crunchbang lookalike but on debian
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17:24<asklepian>does anyone know which packages those are after openbox?
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17:58<veleno>hello. what is a good system to control access to a machine, so that users can ‘reserve’ exclusive access to this machine for a given time-slot, and things like that ?
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18:01<dondelelcaro>veleno: for a computer? you almost certainly want a scheduling/queue/job system like torque or similar
18:01<dondelelcaro>for something else, dunno; there are tons of them out there, though
18:02<dondelelcaro>(well, torque if the idea is to run a process; if you want to use it physically, then that's totally different)
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18:04<veleno>dondelelcaro: we really want to provide users exclusive access to a given, single machine, not a cluster. Torque (this https://wiki.debian.org/Torque ?) does not seem to provide such things
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18:06<dondelelcaro>veleno: no, torque is really for job scheduling or similar, when there's a process that needs to be run
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18:06<dondelelcaro>veleno: access to a single physical computer is something completely different (especially when the computers aren't interchangeable)
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18:08<veleno>dondelelcaro that’s what we need indeed.
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18:10<veleno>in its simplest form, maybe some configuration of ssh do that only one user (plus root) is allowed at any given time..
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18:14<dondelelcaro>veleno: totally different suggestion, but is there any reason why you don't just spool up a single virtual machine, and only give that user access to it?
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18:15<dondelelcaro>you could potentially even only have a single specific user able to log into that computer
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18:16<veleno>dondelelcaro: yes, there is a specific reason. the users will access a very powerful/expensive machine (worth +20K usd), a many-core power8 machine to make resaerch on parallel systems. a VM simply would not be the same as the bare metal.
18:17<dondelelcaro>veleno: ah, got it
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18:17<dondelelcaro>veleno: even though it's still a single machine, that kind of research sounds like something that torque would be good at, though
18:18<dondelelcaro>veleno: especially if you were at an institute which already had a job/queue system
18:18<dondelelcaro>(people who wanted that machine could just target it with torque using the same commands they already knew)
18:18<veleno>dondelelcaro: no, we don’t have installed slurl/sge and alike
18:18<veleno>s/slurl/slurm
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18:27<veleno>thanks anyway.
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18:36<Denise>hello all. I am in the process of installing debian 7.8, it is asking for a passphrase for wlano, my router password is not working... any suggestions?
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18:55<retrospectacus>Denise: are you sure it's not actually asking for a passphrase for the default keyring?
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19:02<Denise>not sure retrospectacus,
19:02<Denise>let me check
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19:08<Denise>i am setting up wireless, i use a USB device for wireless, it may not be compatible, it does detect it
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19:10<retrospectacus>what device?
19:10<planet>is there anyone online with experience running debian on atmel avr32 family processors?
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19:47<dantecpp>cd debian
19:47<dantecpp>whois
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19:48<centrx>Are you okay
19:49<dantecpp>Hi
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19:49<dantecpp>Hi
19:50<centrx>Hello
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19:55<dantecpp>ok, thanks
19:55<retrospectacus>the pleasure is all ours
19:57<dantecpp>and if i wanted to change the channel?
19:57<dantecpp>how can i do?
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19:58<retrospectacus>consult the documentation of your IRC client, whatever it may be
19:58<retrospectacus>possibly type /j followed by the channel you want to join
19:59<dantecpp>well!
19:59<sney>probably type /help
19:59<sney>I've never used ircii though
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20:18<Wolfgang_>hi, spricht jmd deutsch ?
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20:26<centrx>!de
20:26<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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20:35<awal>How to make spanish (ES) keyboard layout persistent / default in 'xvkbd'?
20:36<awal>no find that in man
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20:38<centrx>awal, Does it stay persistent during the current X session now?
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20:42<awal>centrx, its only persistent when xvkbd is in use. after 'quit' english is set default again
20:42<centrx>awal, anyway, you can probably put it in your .xinitrc or .Xsession to run it when
20:42<centrx>oh
20:43<awal>so one have to edit keyboard layout evry time xvkbd is started
20:45<awal>i only use xvkbd in fluxbox/openbox session bcuz it's light. maybe it's possible to lauch it specifying X keyboard layout but i no found reference in man/google
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21:33<aboo>stuf like minecraft
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21:34<aboo>sorrey how do you download minecraft
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21:44<mateus>fala coxa
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21:54<Naloth>does anyone know what is the differents to useing SteamOS v.s. just installing Steam on to anyother distro?
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21:54<ectospasm>possibly not having to deal with dependency hell?
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21:57<Naloth>only problem i have with steam OS is the Gnome shell desktop could i replace that with a different desktop and still have a SteamOS ?
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21:57<ectospasm>Naloth: why are you asking this in #debian?
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21:57<Naloth>umm cuz Steam OS id a debian distro :P
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21:58<Naloth>point me to where i shoul be asking this
21:58<ectospasm>dpkg: tell Naloth -about not debian
21:58<abrotman>oddly, #steamos on Freenode
21:58<ectospasm>No, because I do not know or care.
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21:59<Naloth>no need to be rude
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21:59<Naloth>thx abrotman
21:59<planet>is there anyone online with any experience running debian on atmel avr32 processors?
21:59<abrotman>planet: Arm?
21:59<abrotman>ARM
21:59<abrotman>whatever
21:59<planet>no, avr32- arm is the newer stuff
22:00<ectospasm>How was that rude? You come into a non-affiliated channel and ask about something we don't support
22:00<planet>...admitteddly EOL but still
22:00<abrotman>planet: but it's an ARM architecture/
22:00<abrotman>?
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22:00<abrotman>ectospasm: move on :)
22:00<ectospasm>Done.
22:00<abrotman>ectospasm: I understand, but meh, move on :)
22:00<ectospasm>Seems s/he has already
22:00<abrotman>yay
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22:02<planet>hrm according to wikipedia the processor in question (avr32 ap7000) is risc- I know there was an unofficial port but the link is dead on the debian main page
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23:22<sleser>are there any live wallpapers for debian ?
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