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| 00:10 | <stephen> | Can someone help me with a question regarding the nvidia drivers? |
| 00:11 | <stephen> | Well xserver in general really, I'm trying to figure out what drivers are best for my computer. I have the nouveau installed but feel the performance could be better. |
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| 00:19 | <stephen> | Hmm, I'll just post my problem and see if anyone is about then....so, I'm just trying to figure out if A) can I get better performance from the xorg nv driver versus the nouveau driver....or B) use the xorg nvidia legacy binary or C) none of the above. I just don't know. |
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| 00:45 | <stephen> | anyone back from dinner? lol |
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| 01:07 | <skaldicpoet9> | Anybody around for a random xorg problem? |
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| 01:15 | <sleser> | is there a way to install debian on usb stick and carry this to any pc ? |
| 01:16 | <sleser> | id like to keep my system on a stick. |
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| 01:18 | <javier> | sleser, maybe with unetbootin ? |
| 01:19 | <javier> | using a live cd/dvd iso |
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| 02:48 | <squirrel`> | anyone heree? |
| 02:49 | <squirrel`> | i need some help |
| 02:49 | <squirrel`> | i need help picking out a barebones system |
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| 02:54 | <ixi> | !ask |
| 02:54 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 03:30 | <squirrel`> | i need help picking out a barebone system |
| 03:31 | <squirrel`> | please! |
| 03:31 | <devil_> | squirrel`: wrong channel |
| 03:31 | <squirrel`> | actually i think this is the perfect channel |
| 03:31 | <squirrel`> | you are pro's |
| 03:31 | <squirrel`> | ive been in the off-topic and they are...less than admirable |
| 03:31 | <devil_> | well, what you think and what the channels is for differ obviously |
| 03:31 | <squirrel`> | so i come to you |
| 03:32 | <squirrel`> | ive been here for 7 hours asking around |
| 03:32 | <squirrel`> | most people joke off |
| 03:32 | <devil_> | well, it's early Sun morning here |
| 03:32 | <squirrel`> | and i want to ask 1 question |
| 03:33 | <squirrel`> | your opinion |
| 03:33 | <squirrel`> | devil |
| 03:33 | <squirrel`> | can i ask that? |
| 03:33 | <devil_> | hurry up |
| 03:33 | <squirrel`> | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9618854&CatId=332 |
| 03:33 | <squirrel`> | what do you think of that system build |
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| 03:34 | <squirrel`> | 8 core amd with a SSD and 8gb ram |
| 03:34 | <squirrel`> | os[Linux 3.12-kali1-686-pae i686] distro[Debian Kali Linux 1.0.6] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.5GB, 81.4% free] disk[Total: 229.4GB, 39.9% free] video[NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] |
| 03:34 | <devil_> | I think AMD is a waste of money |
| 03:34 | <squirrel`> | thats my current system |
| 03:34 | <devil_> | need to walk the dog |
| 03:34 | <squirrel`> | no help at all |
| 03:35 | <squirrel`> | intel dog |
| 03:35 | <squirrel`> | :P |
| 03:35 | <squirrel`> | gn |
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| 06:09 | <punkgeek> | how to extract ios file in command line? |
| 06:09 | <punkgeek> | iso* |
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| 06:10 | <devil_> | punkgeek: mount -o loop <image>.iso /mnt/iso |
| 06:10 | <devil_> | after creating /mnt/iso |
| 06:10 | <punkgeek> | aha thank you, but how to create iso file? |
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| 06:11 | <devil_> | you said extract, not create |
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| 06:13 | <devil_> | if you want to create one on command line, that involves tools like dd and mkisofs |
| 06:14 | <punkgeek> | thank you |
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| 10:03 | <catern> | so I'm doing preseeding in a package |
| 10:03 | <catern> | is that bad? |
| 10:03 | <catern> | how do I make sure that it gets installed before all the packages it preseeds? |
| 10:04 | <catern> | (if I install the preseed package and the preseeded package in the same apt-get install command) |
| 10:04 | <catern> | (or pull them both in with a single package of dependencies) |
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| 10:40 | <Zooty> | Hi, I installed nvidia-kernel-dkms and ran nvidia-xconfig after installing Debian and I just see a blinking underscore. I can switch into other virtual terminals just fine though. Can I get some help? |
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| 10:51 | <EFLFE> | Hello everyone |
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| 10:54 | <badelvis> | Dear #debian, I have installed a 32-bit chroot on my 64-bit system following this article: https://www.debian-administration.org/article/356/Installing_apps_in_a_32-bit_chroot_in_AMD64_Debian_system |
| 10:55 | <Igor> | Hello everyone. Here to ask questions? |
| 10:55 | <badelvis> | Now, when i chroot into the new "system", I do uname -a and it gives me: Linux x220 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:56 | <badelvis> | I thought I had set up a 32-bit system... what could have gone wrong? |
| 10:57 | <centrx> | badelvis, I would mention that article is from 2006, could be very incorrect today |
| 10:57 | <centrx> | dpkg, tell Igor about ask |
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| 10:58 | <badelvis> | centrx: Yes, you are right... do you know a better source |
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| 10:59 | <centrx> | badelvis, What are you trying to do exactly? |
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| 11:00 | <centrx> | Why 32-bit chroot? |
| 11:00 | <Igor> | How to connect USB Modem (ppp) during installation debian 7.2 amd64? |
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| 11:01 | <badelvis> | centrx: I have bought a game that is supposed to run on linux. But it has problems with my 64 bit system. I also failed to get it to work using dpkg multiarch, so I am now trying the 32-bit chroot |
| 11:01 | <centrx> | badelvis, Okay here is a more updated page on chroot, https://wiki.debian.org/chroot |
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| 11:02 | <centrx> | badelvis, I would recommend using a virtual machine, or figuring out how to satisfy the game's dependencies within Debian |
| 11:03 | <badelvis> | centrx: I fear that graphics/and sound will always be a hassle in a VM, don't you think so? |
| 11:03 | <centrx> | oh yes that's true |
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| 11:04 | <Victoria21> | High Quality photos and videos |
| 11:04 | <centrx> | badelvis, What game is this? Is it available on steam? |
| 11:05 | <centrx> | Igor, It might work better to wait until after installation, then use something like wvdial |
| 11:05 | <badelvis> | centrx: maybe, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=181414601 |
| 11:06 | <badelvis> | if it has been greenlit, does that mean you can buy it on steam? |
| 11:06 | <centrx> | badelvis, "Valve has reached out to this developer to start moving things toward release on Steam." |
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| 11:07 | <centrx> | badelvis, This gives another idea though. If installation failed because the game expects newer libraries, you may want to upgrade to pre-release Debian 8 |
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| 11:07 | <badelvis> | ah sorry. stupid me |
| 11:07 | <badelvis> | centrx: my host sytem is jessie |
| 11:07 | <centrx> | badelvis, That would also enable you to install steam as a Debian package and use any other steam games too |
| 11:07 | <centrx> | oh ok |
| 11:08 | <Igor> | centrx, ok, thanks |
| 11:08 | <badelvis> | centrx: I bought the game from gog.com |
| 11:09 | <centrx> | badelvis, What was the problem with using multiarch? |
| 11:10 | <badelvis> | centrx: I as not able to install the mono-runtime |
| 11:10 | <badelvis> | *was |
| 11:10 | <centrx> | badelvis, It lists "Ubuntu 14.04" as a supported distro/version, so that should work on jessie as well |
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| 11:15 | <badelvis> | centrx: Thanks for your help, I will continue to try :) |
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| 11:48 | <savf3> | What is the recommended way to make a bootable usb for installing debian from windows? |
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| 11:51 | <DusXMT> | savf3: You need a program that can write raw data onto a disk, and to use that to write the cd image of your choice onto the USB drive |
| 11:51 | <DusXMT> | I think there's a port of `dd' for windows, you could try using that |
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| 11:56 | <savf3> | I'm trying to do a video tutorial, so I want the method to be as reliable as possible and user friendly too |
| 11:56 | <savf3> | unetbootin often fails, right? |
| 11:59 | <robertf> | hello how are you? |
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| 11:59 | <jhutchins_wk> | savf3: There are a number of Windows programs that will write the boot image to a usb drive. http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ is one, there's also one from http://pendrivelinux.com |
| 11:59 | <robertf> | I installed debian jessie. When i type, "update-flashplugin-nonfree" i've the output. "11.2.202.440 needs sse2". How to solve it? |
| 12:00 | <jhutchins_wk> | savf3: We recommend against using unetbootin, people seem to get the wrong image or an unusable result with it. |
| 12:00 | <jhutchins_wk> | !tell robertf about search |
| 12:01 | <savf3> | cool, I'll give those a try. |
| 12:01 | <savf3> | I also wanted to ask if jessie is already frozen and if not, when is it expected to become frozen? |
| 12:02 | <jhutchins_wk> | savf3 Yes it's frozen, there is still no scheduled release date. |
| 12:02 | <savf3> | nice :) |
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| 12:05 | <savf3> | And for mac, can I use dd maybe? |
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| 12:16 | <jhutchins_wk> | savf3: Yes |
| 12:16 | <jhutchins_wk> | !mac |
| 12:16 | <dpkg> | [mac] Media Access Control, see <mac change>; Macintosh, see <apple>, <m68k>, <macbook>, <powerpc>, <macsound>; Mandatory Access Control, see <apparmor>, <selinux>, <tomoyo>; Monkey's Audio Codec, see <ape>. |
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| 12:16 | <jhutchins_wk> | savf3: I haven't done one in a while, there might be some special prep required to boot on a mac. |
| 12:17 | <jhutchins_wk> | !apple |
| 12:17 | <dpkg> | [apple] a fruit, or Apple Inc. (formerly Apple Computer, Inc.), a consumer electronics and software company. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple . See also <airport>, <alac>, <combo drive>, <daap>, <hfs>, <hfsplus>, <imac>, <ipod>, <m68k>, <macbook>, <mac mini>, <open firmware>, <powerpc>, <quicktime>, <superdrive>. ##apple on irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:17 | <mlubin> | what's the expected unfreeze date for testing? |
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| 12:18 | <jhutchins_wk> | mlubin: It goes by quality, not date. When it's ready. |
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| 12:20 | <mlubin> | jhutchins_wk: not asking for a promise, just an opinion from someone who's more familiar with the process than I am. 3 months, 6 months, 12 months? |
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| 12:23 | <jhutchins_wk> | mlubin: Yup. Probably this year, since the freeze was late last year. |
| 12:23 | <inkbottle> | Hi, Chromium has very good pdf viewer (IMO). I'm looking for the sources of it. When I'm looking at the dependencies of Chromium, I can't find what part is providing the pdf viewer |
| 12:24 | <inkbottle> | It might be called libpdf according to Archlinux, but I think there are plenty of libs with that name |
| 12:24 | <mlubin> | jhutchins_wk: ok, thanks |
| 12:24 | <jhutchins_wk> | inkbottle: http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code |
| 12:25 | <inkbottle> | looking... |
| 12:25 | <jhutchins_wk> | inkbottle: Also possibly http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code |
| 12:25 | <jhutchins_wk> | Er... |
| 12:25 | <jhutchins_wk> | inkbottle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28372/how-do-i-get-the-source-code-of-packages-installed-through-apt-get |
| 12:27 | <jhutchins_wk> | Aaaand once again I'm not in the channel I think I am... |
| 12:28 | <jhutchins_wk> | inkbottle: apt-get source chromium |
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| 12:32 | <inkbottle> | jhutchins_wk: I haven't yet found the part dealing with PDF, but I'm sure i'm getting warmer |
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| 12:36 | <inkbottle> | jhutchins_wk: found: chromium package provide a file named "libpdf.so" |
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| 12:42 | <inkbottle> | jhutchins_wk: so, basically, I found, Thanks (at least I know where to search) |
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| 13:04 | <Quiznos> | hello |
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| 13:11 | <zrth_> | Hello. I am here on the debian installation : |
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| 13:12 | <zrth_> | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
| 13:12 | <zrth_> | What is the best torrent I need to choose ? |
| 13:13 | <zrth_> | someone ? |
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| 13:14 | <DusXMT> | zrth_: I usually use the netinstall CD, it downloads all it needs from the internet. But if you want a DVD, the first one is usually sufficient |
| 13:15 | <DusXMT> | (what I mentioned: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-7.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent ) |
| 13:15 | <Quiznos> | or, if you'd like to ftp the image to your hd, i know a fat pipe you can use. |
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| 13:16 | <Quiznos> | dont torrent when you can ftp :> |
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| 13:18 | <Quiznos> | zrth_: you want the url? |
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| 13:20 | <zrth_> | "page web introuvable" |
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| 13:20 | <zrth_> | ftp ? |
| 13:21 | <Quiznos> | it |
| 13:21 | <Quiznos> | s older than http |
| 13:21 | <Quiznos> | oops |
| 13:22 | <zrth_> | file transfert protocole |
| 13:23 | <zrth_> | What is the easiest way for windows ? |
| 13:23 | <zrth_> | *from |
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| 13:24 | <DusXMT> | zrth_: ftp/http is just clicking on a link and downloading, eg.: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 13:24 | <Quiznos> | well, most people who can type dont click :) |
| 13:25 | <Quiznos> | http to an ftp site |
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| 13:28 | <zrth_> | Sorry I will search alone good bye. |
| 13:28 | <Quiznos> | wow |
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| 13:31 | <Quiznos> | ok, so i've got a ubuntu.iso, how do i write to to a dvd? |
| 13:32 | <acald3ron> | netintall its great ! |
| 13:32 | <Quiznos> | ya but i've already got the so |
| 13:32 | <Quiznos> | iso |
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| 14:01 | <Speed2u> | I'm messing around with trying to get rw access to a directory i've used mount --bind on to be able to "move" virtualbox standard /media/sf_name folders to /mnt/customname. |
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| 14:02 | <Speed2u> | I want to be able to have full access to that dir so i can make, delete and modify files etc. I plan to share that dir with samba later |
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| 14:18 | <Speed2u> | i can't really understand how to do, have been trying chhod the entire /mnt/point folder but even if i'm root i have no permissions to do that(?) |
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| 14:39 | <Alam_Squeeze> | Speed2u: grep -e "/mnt/point" /proc/mounts |
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| 14:43 | <Speed2u> | Alam_Squeeze: That command give me this: none /mnt/point/folder1 vboxsf rw,nodev,relatime 0 0 |
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| 14:45 | <Alam_Squeeze> | as, so your mount point is virtualbox? |
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| 14:48 | <Alam_Squeeze> | Speed2u: so, you was able to read/write to /media/sf_name but not /mnt/point/folder1? |
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| 15:13 | <zweiter> | Is there any way to tell aria2 to save 2 files to 2 different directories? |
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| 15:30 | <Alam_Squeeze> | arias2 seems to have an --dir= option, but are you doing two diff "URLs"? or is this a torrect to multi files? |
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| 15:31 | <fedele> | dragon |
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| 16:02 | <Atomic_76UcB> | Hi there, I messed up my grub. I know how to install it again using bind mounts and chrome, but unfortunately I have luks partition. |
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| 16:02 | <Atomic_76UcB> | I am now using my phone to enter the IRC channel. |
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| 16:03 | <Atomic_76UcB> | And have booted the Debian installer rescue mode |
| 16:03 | <Atomic_76UcB> | Can anyone help me to get my system up and running again? |
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| 16:08 | <Speed2u> | Alam_Squeeze: I guess you're not left but.. No i have no writepermissions to sf_folders eighter. I have tried to chmod -R 770 sf_folder but i keep getting "Operation not allowed" even when i'm root |
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| 16:10 | <Speed2u> | The folders is owned by root:vboxsf, and my user is in group vboxsf. still have no permissions to write. and can't even chmod to 770 eighter via root or my normal account |
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| 16:41 | <Speed2u> | I figured it all out. Had to do with the ownership/rights on my host machine and had nothing to do with debian. But i cant still chmod that folders, but i guess thats because the file system is ntfs? |
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| 17:04 | <jhutchins_wk> | spacepup: Right. Diferent configuration for ownership/permissions. You can control it somewhat with how it's mounted. |
| 17:04 | <jhutchins_wk> | !ntfs |
| 17:04 | <dpkg> | Windows NT File System (NTFS) has drivers available in Debian: the read-only Linux kernel driver and a <FUSE> driver providing write support. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about read/write access, ask me about <ntfsrw>. See also <ntfsclone>, <label>. http://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
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| 18:39 | <savf3> | Atomic_76UcB: this might help http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html |
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| 18:41 | <samkod> | anyone here using claws mail? |
| 18:42 | <samkod> | Every time I set up my gmail account through it, it tells me that the SSL cert is unknown |
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| 18:59 | <nkuttler> | samkod: doesn't it offer to download + trust it? |
| 19:00 | <samkod> | yes, but shouldn't it recognize it as valid to begin with? |
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| 19:00 | <nkuttler> | well, check who signed it. wheezy might not have all current certs, or they are not in the main repo |
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| 19:26 | <savf3> | I just tried making a bootable debian live usb with dd, but when I try to boot it skips straight to my default grub menu. |
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| 19:28 | <mtn> | savf3: does your machine have a bios boot menu you can access before you see grub? on mine it is F12 |
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| 19:29 | <acock> | hello world |
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| 19:34 | <savf3> | mtn: yep, I selected the USB from the menu, but then it proceeds as if I had selected the HDD |
| 19:34 | <savf3> | aka nothing happens |
| 19:34 | <savf3> | tried my desktop and laptop with the stick |
| 19:34 | <sney> | did you dd to the stick device, or a partition? e.g. if it's /dev/sdc did you do of=/dev/sdc or of=/dev/sdc1 |
| 19:35 | <savf3> | '/sdd' |
| 19:35 | <sney> | stick could be bad |
| 19:35 | <sney> | try again |
| 19:35 | <mtn> | savf3: try again, something didn't work or the stick is bad |
| 19:35 | <savf3> | ill try the other stick |
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| 19:36 | <savf3> | also, the disk manager says the partition type is Hidden HPFS/NTFS (Bootable) |
| 19:36 | <savf3> | is that normal? |
| 19:36 | <sney> | for efi yes I think |
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| 19:38 | <ivanocj> | hi |
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| 19:50 | <savf3> | I tried a second usb stick with the same result, already tried fiddling around in the bios too |
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| 19:51 | <alekibango> | savf3: try disabling uefi? |
| 19:51 | <savf3> | on the bios? |
| 19:51 | <alekibango> | savf3: in uefi :) its not bios anymore those days |
| 19:51 | <alekibango> | btw how do i do uefi partition on empty disk? |
| 19:52 | <alekibango> | soory for not googling myself first :D |
| 19:52 | <mtn> | savf3: debian supports uefi, but make sure safe boot is off |
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| 19:53 | <alekibango> | alekibango: try this http://superuser.com/questions/764799/how-to-create-an-efi-system-partition |
| 19:54 | <savf3> | safe boot is off |
| 19:54 | <savf3> | or secureboot rather |
| 19:54 | <mtn> | savf3: I always forget the right name :) |
| 19:54 | <alekibango> | trusted computing is not really secure for users. its just to secure income for some evil companies |
| 19:55 | <savf3> | someday we'll have secureboot the right way |
| 19:55 | <savf3> | anyways, my laptop has no option to disable uefi |
| 19:55 | <savf3> | and when the boot menu comes up with all the options the flash drive isn;t listed as uefi |
| 19:55 | <alekibango> | savf3: see? soon turning off secureboot will be impossible..... |
| 19:56 | <alekibango> | i would like to make my external ssd drive (usb) bootable on different computers, so i will prolly need to make it uefi ready ... |
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| 19:57 | <alekibango> | read this: (note: 2003) http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur/ |
| 19:58 | <alekibango> | this article is very prophetic too: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html |
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| 20:05 | <savf3> | guess i'll give unetbootin a try |
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| 20:08 | <savf3> | with unetbootin the boot menu gives 2 options, one says UEFI, which does nothing, and the other without UEFI says 'this is not a bootable disk' |
| 20:09 | <savf3> | can't boot the drive I made with dd from kvm either |
| 20:09 | <devil> | savf3: forget unetbootin for debian |
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| 20:10 | <savf3> | devil: ok |
| 20:10 | <savf3> | I'm stuck now though... |
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| 20:10 | <nuwanda> | test |
| 20:10 | <devil> | just use dd |
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| 20:10 | <savf3> | well I guess I'll try the netinst iso instead of the live one |
| 20:11 | <savf3> | I did try dd on 2 usb sticks and 2 computers |
| 20:11 | <alekibango> | savf3: that might be really better |
| 20:11 | <savf3> | I wanted to use the live one for the guide I'm making though |
| 20:11 | <alekibango> | nuwanda: did it work? :) |
| 20:12 | <alekibango> | savf3: please tell me if you will make it work (what was the trick?) |
| 20:13 | <savf3> | sure |
| 20:13 | <nuwanda> | yes thanks, just trying to code my own irc so look at the packet on wireshark :) |
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| 20:13 | <alekibango> | nuwanda: which language? server or client? |
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| 20:14 | <nuwanda> | In Python, server side. Ijust have to simulate an IRC server like a honeypot |
| 20:15 | <savf3> | I'm also copying the iso file to the usb drive from a truecrypt partition, could this be an issue? |
| 20:17 | <savf3> | kvm booted the netinst fine, and so did the laptop. So from here it looks like the issue is with the liveCD |
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| 20:19 | <SSJGokuuu> | never thought net is so dangerous place ;) , yesterday i found mi minecraft server (clean debian with mc server) got compromised (after 3weeks from server start), processes with no "?" PID was spaming/attacking some chinese web pages every 3 hours, causing collapse of local routers while in attack. I was triing to clean but somehov it always got back in matter of minutes, then i found out |
| 20:19 | <SSJGokuuu> | attackers changed whole debian core with their own one.. . So after mc map backup i formated and reinstaled, and as some here adviced i installed fail2ban. Now got server up for 8hours and have already 60 blocked chinese Ips .. . But to question, is there any web page that i can anouce attackers ips, i guess most of them even do not know that their PC are doing anithing, is there any web |
| 20:19 | <SSJGokuuu> | service dedicated to gathering this kind of informations ? Once i was laughting to friend who banned whole china in his server, now i think about same thing :) |
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| 20:20 | <alekibango> | SSJGokuuu: problem is, often attackers are (fast) moving target. you never know origins of that. it might as well be NSA |
| 20:20 | <alekibango> | but you sure can use whois $IP |
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| 20:20 | <alekibango> | to know where to report the problem |
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| 20:21 | <alekibango> | (owner of ip addresses, theirs provider, etc) |
| 20:21 | <alekibango> | SSJGokuuu: i once banned whole earth except czech republic :) |
| 20:21 | <SSJGokuuu> | :) |
| 20:22 | <alekibango> | when one of my customers made really great game and got slashdotted |
| 20:22 | <SSJGokuuu> | yes i could do it myself but thats too much of trouble, but i would hav eno problem to share ips to some service that could inform them. |
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| 20:22 | <alekibango> | SSJGokuuu: i was thinking about it last month... |
| 20:23 | <alekibango> | we should make some grassroots effort to make this information collectable and useable... or governments+ big companies make that for us... without mercy |
| 20:23 | <alekibango> | SSJGokuuu: where was it from? was it also hongkong? |
| 20:24 | <alekibango> | how did they get in? dictionary password? hole in chronyd ? |
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| 20:25 | <XX> | hi |
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| 20:27 | <savf3> | The fact that netinst booted on kvm but live didn't makes me think this is not a hardware issue or something specific to me, what do you think alekibango? |
| 20:27 | <SSJGokuuu> | China Telecom Huzhou , but also hon kong ip like 103.41.124.41, theres even some AHA pabe about that one. |
| 20:27 | <SSJGokuuu> | *page |
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| 20:29 | <SSJGokuuu> | not sure but seeing what is happening now, i guess they just brute forced password, was not very strong one.. |
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| 20:46 | <alekibango> | SSJGokuuu: aha page? |
| 20:46 | <alekibango> | savf3: i dont know. i would try disabling uefi |
| 20:46 | <alekibango> | if that is not possible, disabling secure boot |
| 20:46 | <alekibango> | then try to select boot device right |
| 20:46 | <alekibango> | maybe enbale 'legacy usb' in bios |
| 20:47 | <alekibango> | enable* |
| 20:48 | <alekibango> | SSJGokuuu: paswword: use at least 3 or 4 words with few twisted letters |
| 20:48 | <alekibango> | but not obvious 0 for O etc |
| 20:49 | <alekibango> | SSJGokuuu: http://xkcd.com/936/ |
| 20:50 | <savf3> | alekibango: disabling UEFI is the only thing left to try, secureboot is disabled already and legacy usb is enabled too. |
| 20:51 | <alekibango> | usb can be floopy or disk |
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| 20:52 | <savf3> | I'm also going to give the i386 livecd a shot |
| 20:52 | <savf3> | as soon as it downloads |
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| 20:55 | <SSJGokuuu> | alekibango : know that one :) no i have used 9 words password, about that AHA - http://goo.gl/WnGmgC seems like i can redirect ips to their form and it will log them that way. |
| 20:55 | <alekibango> | interesting idea :) |
| 20:55 | <alekibango> | redirect attempts to breakin to house of someone else |
| 20:56 | <alekibango> | lol |
| 20:56 | <SSJGokuuu> | :) |
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| 20:57 | <SSJGokuuu> | gn, and tnx for advices . |
| 20:57 | <savf3> | gn |
| 20:57 | <alekibango> | gn8, SSJGokuuu |
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| 21:52 | <savf3> | alekibango: turns out the i386 livecd works, but not the amd64. |
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| 21:56 | <savf3> | omg, I just did a trick that fixes it... I took the EFI partition from the netinst usb I made and copied it to my hard drive with dd, then copied the amd64 livecd iso to the usb with dd, made a second partition on that usb, 460KB EFI, and copied the EFI back from the ahrd drive to the new partition, my laptop booted fine. |
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| 21:58 | <sigur> | /msg dpkg jessie freeze |
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| 22:08 | <sleser> | is it safe to install games downloaded from websites ? |
| 22:09 | <sney> | safer than on windows |
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| 22:09 | <sleser> | ok |
| 22:10 | <themill> | however, http://xkcd.com/1200/ |
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| 22:13 | <savf3> | hilarious |
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| 23:16 | <fkt> | anyone able to get google earth installed on amd64 jessie deb 8 |
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| 23:16 | <fkt> | jumping through many hoops but still unable to get it going |
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| 23:27 | <sleser> | im trying to install a game from terminal im geting an error about display . http://paste.debian.net/143478/ |
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| 23:45 | * | SamB_laptop wonders what's going on with tzdata-java ... |
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