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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-02-01

---Logopened Sun Feb 01 00:00:53 2015
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00:10<stephen>Can someone help me with a question regarding the nvidia drivers?
00:11<stephen>Well xserver in general really, I'm trying to figure out what drivers are best for my computer. I have the nouveau installed but feel the performance could be better.
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00:19<stephen>Hmm, I'll just post my problem and see if anyone is about then....so, I'm just trying to figure out if A) can I get better performance from the xorg nv driver versus the nouveau driver....or B) use the xorg nvidia legacy binary or C) none of the above. I just don't know.
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00:45<stephen>anyone back from dinner? lol
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01:07<skaldicpoet9>Anybody around for a random xorg problem?
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01:15<sleser>is there a way to install debian on usb stick and carry this to any pc ?
01:16<sleser>id like to keep my system on a stick.
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01:18<javier>sleser, maybe with unetbootin ?
01:19<javier>using a live cd/dvd iso
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02:48<squirrel`>anyone heree?
02:49<squirrel`>i need some help
02:49<squirrel`>i need help picking out a barebones system
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02:54<ixi>!ask
02:54<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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03:30<squirrel`>i need help picking out a barebone system
03:31<squirrel`>please!
03:31<devil_>squirrel`: wrong channel
03:31<squirrel`>actually i think this is the perfect channel
03:31<squirrel`>you are pro's
03:31<squirrel`>ive been in the off-topic and they are...less than admirable
03:31<devil_>well, what you think and what the channels is for differ obviously
03:31<squirrel`>so i come to you
03:32<squirrel`>ive been here for 7 hours asking around
03:32<squirrel`>most people joke off
03:32<devil_>well, it's early Sun morning here
03:32<squirrel`>and i want to ask 1 question
03:33<squirrel`>your opinion
03:33<squirrel`>devil
03:33<squirrel`>can i ask that?
03:33<devil_>hurry up
03:33<squirrel`>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9618854&CatId=332
03:33<squirrel`>what do you think of that system build
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03:34<squirrel`>8 core amd with a SSD and 8gb ram
03:34<squirrel`>os[Linux 3.12-kali1-686-pae i686] distro[Debian Kali Linux 1.0.6] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.5GB, 81.4% free] disk[Total: 229.4GB, 39.9% free] video[NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
03:34<devil_>I think AMD is a waste of money
03:34<squirrel`>thats my current system
03:34<devil_>need to walk the dog
03:34<squirrel`>no help at all
03:35<squirrel`>intel dog
03:35<squirrel`>:P
03:35<squirrel`>gn
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06:09<punkgeek>how to extract ios file in command line?
06:09<punkgeek>iso*
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06:10<devil_>punkgeek: mount -o loop <image>.iso /mnt/iso
06:10<devil_>after creating /mnt/iso
06:10<punkgeek>aha thank you, but how to create iso file?
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06:11<devil_>you said extract, not create
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06:13<devil_>if you want to create one on command line, that involves tools like dd and mkisofs
06:14<punkgeek>thank you
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10:03<catern>so I'm doing preseeding in a package
10:03<catern>is that bad?
10:03<catern>how do I make sure that it gets installed before all the packages it preseeds?
10:04<catern>(if I install the preseed package and the preseeded package in the same apt-get install command)
10:04<catern>(or pull them both in with a single package of dependencies)
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10:40<Zooty>Hi, I installed nvidia-kernel-dkms and ran nvidia-xconfig after installing Debian and I just see a blinking underscore. I can switch into other virtual terminals just fine though. Can I get some help?
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10:51<EFLFE>Hello everyone
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10:54<badelvis>Dear #debian, I have installed a 32-bit chroot on my 64-bit system following this article: https://www.debian-administration.org/article/356/Installing_apps_in_a_32-bit_chroot_in_AMD64_Debian_system
10:55<Igor>Hello everyone. Here to ask questions?
10:55<badelvis>Now, when i chroot into the new "system", I do uname -a and it gives me: Linux x220 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
10:56<badelvis>I thought I had set up a 32-bit system... what could have gone wrong?
10:57<centrx>badelvis, I would mention that article is from 2006, could be very incorrect today
10:57<centrx>dpkg, tell Igor about ask
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10:58<badelvis>centrx: Yes, you are right... do you know a better source
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10:59<centrx>badelvis, What are you trying to do exactly?
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11:00<centrx>Why 32-bit chroot?
11:00<Igor>How to connect USB Modem (ppp) during installation debian 7.2 amd64?
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11:01<badelvis>centrx: I have bought a game that is supposed to run on linux. But it has problems with my 64 bit system. I also failed to get it to work using dpkg multiarch, so I am now trying the 32-bit chroot
11:01<centrx>badelvis, Okay here is a more updated page on chroot, https://wiki.debian.org/chroot
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11:02<centrx>badelvis, I would recommend using a virtual machine, or figuring out how to satisfy the game's dependencies within Debian
11:03<badelvis>centrx: I fear that graphics/and sound will always be a hassle in a VM, don't you think so?
11:03<centrx>oh yes that's true
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11:04<Victoria21> High Quality photos and videos
11:04<centrx>badelvis, What game is this? Is it available on steam?
11:05<centrx>Igor, It might work better to wait until after installation, then use something like wvdial
11:05<badelvis>centrx: maybe, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=181414601
11:06<badelvis>if it has been greenlit, does that mean you can buy it on steam?
11:06<centrx>badelvis, "Valve has reached out to this developer to start moving things toward release on Steam."
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11:07<centrx>badelvis, This gives another idea though. If installation failed because the game expects newer libraries, you may want to upgrade to pre-release Debian 8
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11:07<badelvis>ah sorry. stupid me
11:07<badelvis>centrx: my host sytem is jessie
11:07<centrx>badelvis, That would also enable you to install steam as a Debian package and use any other steam games too
11:07<centrx>oh ok
11:08<Igor>centrx, ok, thanks
11:08<badelvis>centrx: I bought the game from gog.com
11:09<centrx>badelvis, What was the problem with using multiarch?
11:10<badelvis>centrx: I as not able to install the mono-runtime
11:10<badelvis>*was
11:10<centrx>badelvis, It lists "Ubuntu 14.04" as a supported distro/version, so that should work on jessie as well
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11:15<badelvis>centrx: Thanks for your help, I will continue to try :)
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11:48<savf3>What is the recommended way to make a bootable usb for installing debian from windows?
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11:51<DusXMT>savf3: You need a program that can write raw data onto a disk, and to use that to write the cd image of your choice onto the USB drive
11:51<DusXMT>I think there's a port of `dd' for windows, you could try using that
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11:56<savf3>I'm trying to do a video tutorial, so I want the method to be as reliable as possible and user friendly too
11:56<savf3>unetbootin often fails, right?
11:59<robertf>hello how are you?
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11:59<jhutchins_wk>savf3: There are a number of Windows programs that will write the boot image to a usb drive. http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ is one, there's also one from http://pendrivelinux.com
11:59<robertf>I installed debian jessie. When i type, "update-flashplugin-nonfree" i've the output. "11.2.202.440 needs sse2". How to solve it?
12:00<jhutchins_wk>savf3: We recommend against using unetbootin, people seem to get the wrong image or an unusable result with it.
12:00<jhutchins_wk>!tell robertf about search
12:01<savf3>cool, I'll give those a try.
12:01<savf3>I also wanted to ask if jessie is already frozen and if not, when is it expected to become frozen?
12:02<jhutchins_wk> savf3 Yes it's frozen, there is still no scheduled release date.
12:02<savf3>nice :)
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12:05<savf3>And for mac, can I use dd maybe?
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12:16<jhutchins_wk>savf3: Yes
12:16<jhutchins_wk>!mac
12:16<dpkg>[mac] Media Access Control, see <mac change>; Macintosh, see <apple>, <m68k>, <macbook>, <powerpc>, <macsound>; Mandatory Access Control, see <apparmor>, <selinux>, <tomoyo>; Monkey's Audio Codec, see <ape>.
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12:16<jhutchins_wk>savf3: I haven't done one in a while, there might be some special prep required to boot on a mac.
12:17<jhutchins_wk>!apple
12:17<dpkg>[apple] a fruit, or Apple Inc. (formerly Apple Computer, Inc.), a consumer electronics and software company. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple . See also <airport>, <alac>, <combo drive>, <daap>, <hfs>, <hfsplus>, <imac>, <ipod>, <m68k>, <macbook>, <mac mini>, <open firmware>, <powerpc>, <quicktime>, <superdrive>. ##apple on irc.freenode.net.
12:17<mlubin>what's the expected unfreeze date for testing?
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12:18<jhutchins_wk>mlubin: It goes by quality, not date. When it's ready.
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12:20<mlubin>jhutchins_wk: not asking for a promise, just an opinion from someone who's more familiar with the process than I am. 3 months, 6 months, 12 months?
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12:23<jhutchins_wk>mlubin: Yup. Probably this year, since the freeze was late last year.
12:23<inkbottle>Hi, Chromium has very good pdf viewer (IMO). I'm looking for the sources of it. When I'm looking at the dependencies of Chromium, I can't find what part is providing the pdf viewer
12:24<inkbottle>It might be called libpdf according to Archlinux, but I think there are plenty of libs with that name
12:24<mlubin>jhutchins_wk: ok, thanks
12:24<jhutchins_wk>inkbottle: http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code
12:25<inkbottle>looking...
12:25<jhutchins_wk>inkbottle: Also possibly http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code
12:25<jhutchins_wk>Er...
12:25<jhutchins_wk>inkbottle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28372/how-do-i-get-the-source-code-of-packages-installed-through-apt-get
12:27<jhutchins_wk>Aaaand once again I'm not in the channel I think I am...
12:28<jhutchins_wk>inkbottle: apt-get source chromium
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12:32<inkbottle>jhutchins_wk: I haven't yet found the part dealing with PDF, but I'm sure i'm getting warmer
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12:36<inkbottle>jhutchins_wk: found: chromium package provide a file named "libpdf.so"
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12:42<inkbottle>jhutchins_wk: so, basically, I found, Thanks (at least I know where to search)
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13:04<Quiznos>hello
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13:11<zrth_>Hello. I am here on the debian installation :
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13:12<zrth_>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/bt-dvd/
13:12<zrth_>What is the best torrent I need to choose ?
13:13<zrth_>someone ?
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13:14<DusXMT>zrth_: I usually use the netinstall CD, it downloads all it needs from the internet. But if you want a DVD, the first one is usually sufficient
13:15<DusXMT>(what I mentioned: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-7.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent )
13:15<Quiznos>or, if you'd like to ftp the image to your hd, i know a fat pipe you can use.
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13:16<Quiznos>dont torrent when you can ftp :>
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13:18<Quiznos>zrth_: you want the url?
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13:20<zrth_>"page web introuvable"
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13:20<zrth_>ftp ?
13:21<Quiznos>it
13:21<Quiznos>s older than http
13:21<Quiznos>oops
13:22<zrth_>file transfert protocole
13:23<zrth_>What is the easiest way for windows ?
13:23<zrth_>*from
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13:24<DusXMT>zrth_: ftp/http is just clicking on a link and downloading, eg.: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso
13:24<Quiznos>well, most people who can type dont click :)
13:25<Quiznos>http to an ftp site
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13:28<zrth_>Sorry I will search alone good bye.
13:28<Quiznos>wow
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13:31<Quiznos>ok, so i've got a ubuntu.iso, how do i write to to a dvd?
13:32<acald3ron>netintall its great !
13:32<Quiznos>ya but i've already got the so
13:32<Quiznos>iso
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14:01<Speed2u>I'm messing around with trying to get rw access to a directory i've used mount --bind on to be able to "move" virtualbox standard /media/sf_name folders to /mnt/customname.
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14:02<Speed2u>I want to be able to have full access to that dir so i can make, delete and modify files etc. I plan to share that dir with samba later
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14:18<Speed2u>i can't really understand how to do, have been trying chhod the entire /mnt/point folder but even if i'm root i have no permissions to do that(?)
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14:39<Alam_Squeeze>Speed2u: grep -e "/mnt/point" /proc/mounts
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14:43<Speed2u>Alam_Squeeze: That command give me this: none /mnt/point/folder1 vboxsf rw,nodev,relatime 0 0
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14:45<Alam_Squeeze>as, so your mount point is virtualbox?
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14:48<Alam_Squeeze>Speed2u: so, you was able to read/write to /media/sf_name but not /mnt/point/folder1?
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15:13<zweiter>Is there any way to tell aria2 to save 2 files to 2 different directories?
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15:30<Alam_Squeeze>arias2 seems to have an --dir= option, but are you doing two diff "URLs"? or is this a torrect to multi files?
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16:02<Atomic_76UcB>Hi there, I messed up my grub. I know how to install it again using bind mounts and chrome, but unfortunately I have luks partition.
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16:02<Atomic_76UcB>I am now using my phone to enter the IRC channel.
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16:03<Atomic_76UcB>And have booted the Debian installer rescue mode
16:03<Atomic_76UcB>Can anyone help me to get my system up and running again?
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16:08<Speed2u>Alam_Squeeze: I guess you're not left but.. No i have no writepermissions to sf_folders eighter. I have tried to chmod -R 770 sf_folder but i keep getting "Operation not allowed" even when i'm root
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16:10<Speed2u>The folders is owned by root:vboxsf, and my user is in group vboxsf. still have no permissions to write. and can't even chmod to 770 eighter via root or my normal account
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16:41<Speed2u>I figured it all out. Had to do with the ownership/rights on my host machine and had nothing to do with debian. But i cant still chmod that folders, but i guess thats because the file system is ntfs?
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17:04<jhutchins_wk>spacepup: Right. Diferent configuration for ownership/permissions. You can control it somewhat with how it's mounted.
17:04<jhutchins_wk>!ntfs
17:04<dpkg>Windows NT File System (NTFS) has drivers available in Debian: the read-only Linux kernel driver and a <FUSE> driver providing write support. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about read/write access, ask me about <ntfsrw>. See also <ntfsclone>, <label>. http://wiki.debian.org/NTFS
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18:39<savf3>Atomic_76UcB: this might help http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html
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18:41<samkod>anyone here using claws mail?
18:42<samkod>Every time I set up my gmail account through it, it tells me that the SSL cert is unknown
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18:59<nkuttler>samkod: doesn't it offer to download + trust it?
19:00<samkod>yes, but shouldn't it recognize it as valid to begin with?
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19:00<nkuttler>well, check who signed it. wheezy might not have all current certs, or they are not in the main repo
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19:26<savf3>I just tried making a bootable debian live usb with dd, but when I try to boot it skips straight to my default grub menu.
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19:28<mtn>savf3: does your machine have a bios boot menu you can access before you see grub? on mine it is F12
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19:29<acock>hello world
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19:34<savf3>mtn: yep, I selected the USB from the menu, but then it proceeds as if I had selected the HDD
19:34<savf3>aka nothing happens
19:34<savf3>tried my desktop and laptop with the stick
19:34<sney>did you dd to the stick device, or a partition? e.g. if it's /dev/sdc did you do of=/dev/sdc or of=/dev/sdc1
19:35<savf3>'/sdd'
19:35<sney>stick could be bad
19:35<sney>try again
19:35<mtn>savf3: try again, something didn't work or the stick is bad
19:35<savf3>ill try the other stick
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19:36<savf3>also, the disk manager says the partition type is Hidden HPFS/NTFS (Bootable)
19:36<savf3>is that normal?
19:36<sney>for efi yes I think
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19:38<ivanocj>hi
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19:50<savf3>I tried a second usb stick with the same result, already tried fiddling around in the bios too
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19:51<alekibango>savf3: try disabling uefi?
19:51<savf3>on the bios?
19:51<alekibango>savf3: in uefi :) its not bios anymore those days
19:51<alekibango>btw how do i do uefi partition on empty disk?
19:52<alekibango>soory for not googling myself first :D
19:52<mtn>savf3: debian supports uefi, but make sure safe boot is off
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19:53<alekibango>alekibango: try this http://superuser.com/questions/764799/how-to-create-an-efi-system-partition
19:54<savf3>safe boot is off
19:54<savf3>or secureboot rather
19:54<mtn>savf3: I always forget the right name :)
19:54<alekibango>trusted computing is not really secure for users. its just to secure income for some evil companies
19:55<savf3>someday we'll have secureboot the right way
19:55<savf3>anyways, my laptop has no option to disable uefi
19:55<savf3>and when the boot menu comes up with all the options the flash drive isn;t listed as uefi
19:55<alekibango>savf3: see? soon turning off secureboot will be impossible.....
19:56<alekibango>i would like to make my external ssd drive (usb) bootable on different computers, so i will prolly need to make it uefi ready ...
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19:57<alekibango>read this: (note: 2003) http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur/
19:58<alekibango>this article is very prophetic too: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html
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20:05<savf3>guess i'll give unetbootin a try
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20:08<savf3>with unetbootin the boot menu gives 2 options, one says UEFI, which does nothing, and the other without UEFI says 'this is not a bootable disk'
20:09<savf3>can't boot the drive I made with dd from kvm either
20:09<devil>savf3: forget unetbootin for debian
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20:10<savf3>devil: ok
20:10<savf3>I'm stuck now though...
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20:10<nuwanda>test
20:10<devil>just use dd
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20:10<savf3>well I guess I'll try the netinst iso instead of the live one
20:11<savf3>I did try dd on 2 usb sticks and 2 computers
20:11<alekibango>savf3: that might be really better
20:11<savf3>I wanted to use the live one for the guide I'm making though
20:11<alekibango>nuwanda: did it work? :)
20:12<alekibango>savf3: please tell me if you will make it work (what was the trick?)
20:13<savf3>sure
20:13<nuwanda>yes thanks, just trying to code my own irc so look at the packet on wireshark :)
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20:13<alekibango>nuwanda: which language? server or client?
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20:14<nuwanda>In Python, server side. Ijust have to simulate an IRC server like a honeypot
20:15<savf3>I'm also copying the iso file to the usb drive from a truecrypt partition, could this be an issue?
20:17<savf3>kvm booted the netinst fine, and so did the laptop. So from here it looks like the issue is with the liveCD
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20:19<SSJGokuuu>never thought net is so dangerous place ;) , yesterday i found mi minecraft server (clean debian with mc server) got compromised (after 3weeks from server start), processes with no "?" PID was spaming/attacking some chinese web pages every 3 hours, causing collapse of local routers while in attack. I was triing to clean but somehov it always got back in matter of minutes, then i found out
20:19<SSJGokuuu>attackers changed whole debian core with their own one.. . So after mc map backup i formated and reinstaled, and as some here adviced i installed fail2ban. Now got server up for 8hours and have already 60 blocked chinese Ips .. . But to question, is there any web page that i can anouce attackers ips, i guess most of them even do not know that their PC are doing anithing, is there any web
20:19<SSJGokuuu>service dedicated to gathering this kind of informations ? Once i was laughting to friend who banned whole china in his server, now i think about same thing :)
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20:20<alekibango>SSJGokuuu: problem is, often attackers are (fast) moving target. you never know origins of that. it might as well be NSA
20:20<alekibango>but you sure can use whois $IP
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20:20<alekibango>to know where to report the problem
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20:21<alekibango>(owner of ip addresses, theirs provider, etc)
20:21<alekibango>SSJGokuuu: i once banned whole earth except czech republic :)
20:21<SSJGokuuu>:)
20:22<alekibango>when one of my customers made really great game and got slashdotted
20:22<SSJGokuuu>yes i could do it myself but thats too much of trouble, but i would hav eno problem to share ips to some service that could inform them.
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20:22<alekibango>SSJGokuuu: i was thinking about it last month...
20:23<alekibango>we should make some grassroots effort to make this information collectable and useable... or governments+ big companies make that for us... without mercy
20:23<alekibango>SSJGokuuu: where was it from? was it also hongkong?
20:24<alekibango>how did they get in? dictionary password? hole in chronyd ?
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20:25<XX>hi
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20:27<savf3>The fact that netinst booted on kvm but live didn't makes me think this is not a hardware issue or something specific to me, what do you think alekibango?
20:27<SSJGokuuu>China Telecom Huzhou , but also hon kong ip like 103.41.124.41, theres even some AHA pabe about that one.
20:27<SSJGokuuu>*page
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20:29<SSJGokuuu>not sure but seeing what is happening now, i guess they just brute forced password, was not very strong one..
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20:46<alekibango>SSJGokuuu: aha page?
20:46<alekibango>savf3: i dont know. i would try disabling uefi
20:46<alekibango>if that is not possible, disabling secure boot
20:46<alekibango>then try to select boot device right
20:46<alekibango>maybe enbale 'legacy usb' in bios
20:47<alekibango>enable*
20:48<alekibango>SSJGokuuu: paswword: use at least 3 or 4 words with few twisted letters
20:48<alekibango>but not obvious 0 for O etc
20:49<alekibango>SSJGokuuu: http://xkcd.com/936/
20:50<savf3>alekibango: disabling UEFI is the only thing left to try, secureboot is disabled already and legacy usb is enabled too.
20:51<alekibango>usb can be floopy or disk
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20:52<savf3>I'm also going to give the i386 livecd a shot
20:52<savf3>as soon as it downloads
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20:55<SSJGokuuu>alekibango : know that one :) no i have used 9 words password, about that AHA - http://goo.gl/WnGmgC seems like i can redirect ips to their form and it will log them that way.
20:55<alekibango>interesting idea :)
20:55<alekibango>redirect attempts to breakin to house of someone else
20:56<alekibango>lol
20:56<SSJGokuuu>:)
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20:57<SSJGokuuu>gn, and tnx for advices .
20:57<savf3>gn
20:57<alekibango>gn8, SSJGokuuu
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21:52<savf3>alekibango: turns out the i386 livecd works, but not the amd64.
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21:56<savf3>omg, I just did a trick that fixes it... I took the EFI partition from the netinst usb I made and copied it to my hard drive with dd, then copied the amd64 livecd iso to the usb with dd, made a second partition on that usb, 460KB EFI, and copied the EFI back from the ahrd drive to the new partition, my laptop booted fine.
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21:58<sigur> /msg dpkg jessie freeze
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22:08<sleser>is it safe to install games downloaded from websites ?
22:09<sney>safer than on windows
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22:09<sleser>ok
22:10<themill>however, http://xkcd.com/1200/
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22:13<savf3>hilarious
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23:16<fkt>anyone able to get google earth installed on amd64 jessie deb 8
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23:16<fkt>jumping through many hoops but still unable to get it going
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23:27<sleser>im trying to install a game from terminal im geting an error about display . http://paste.debian.net/143478/
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23:45*SamB_laptop wonders what's going on with tzdata-java ...
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