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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-02-03

---Logopened Tue Feb 03 00:00:10 2015
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00:04<mycr0ft>hi guys... I come back just to inform that my problems hours ago have been solved only by purge gnome and move to kde :) thanks...
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00:10<squirrel`>im having a problem getting java for iceweasel
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00:16<squirrel`>cyberbob
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00:17<squirrel`>cant anyone help seriously"'/
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00:17<squirrel`>646 people and not one can help me with installing java for IW
00:18<Paul^^>hello all
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00:18<squirrel`>hi
00:18<squirrel`>paul
00:18<squirrel`>question for you
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00:18<squirrel`>is firefox able to install java in linuxwithout installing from source and apt
00:19<squirrel`>i still use Iweasel
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00:20<Paul^^>I have a question: I use debian in a vps , and sometime the vps reboot , so I whant start a program as a normal user [ id ne 0 ] , how may I do this ?
00:21<Paul^^>in what configuration file I may run a program at start-up of the machine? thx
00:23<Paul^^>./etc/init.d ?
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00:30<squirrel`>yes
00:31<squirrel`>but fstab too
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00:31<squirrel`>have to be linked
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00:35<OzzieMx>Hi.
00:35<OzzieMx>Can somebody help me: I want to see this flash player streams in vlc, wheezy, but i cannot find the streams source. The url's are: http://www.rtve.es/directo/canal-24h/ http://noticieros.televisa.com/foro-tv/ http://tv.milenio.com/ Thank you.
00:35<imperium>Paul^^: why not using cron @reboot or sudo in rc.local?
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00:54<OzzieMx>Can somebody help me: I want to see this flash player streams in vlc, debian wheezy, but i cannot find the streams source. The url's are: http://www.rtve.es/directo/canal-24h/ http://noticieros.televisa.com/foro-tv/ http://tv.milenio.com/ Thank you.
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01:56<shylent>Say, I intend to package an application, that uses a database backend and may require, that the schema (and possibly data) is migrated between releases of the said application
01:56<shylent>Can this kind of migration be meaningfully done in maintainer scripts of the package?
01:57<shylent>or should I use some external means for doing that
01:58<OdyX>shylent: the postinst can perfectly be (ab)used for that.
02:01<shylent>OdyX: technically, yes, but database migration scripts are typically more fragile, than your average postinst srcipt. As I understand, dying in a maintainer script is not a particularly great thing to do
02:01<shylent>OdyX: perhaps you could point me to an application, that does just that (DB migration in postinst), so I could examine its package?
02:01<OdyX>shylent: well. If the migration fails, failing the postinst is the correct thing to do.
02:02<OdyX>shylent: I suspect python-django might do that.
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02:03<zeeble>Hello. Any idea how to activate the lcd brightness via hotkeys on a thinkpad x230? Mine is running at full brightness
02:04<shylent>OdyX: thanks, I'll try taht
02:04<shylent>that*
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02:05<jm_>zeeble: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/X230/wheezy says it works
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02:07<zeeble>jm_: Just install jessie.
02:07<zeeble>jm_: Maybe I need to try some other DE. Installed the base and Cinnamon
02:08<jm_>zeeble: the thinkwiki page says tpb handles brightness keys for example. no idea if cinnamon can do that
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02:09<zeeble>jm_: Yep, i installed tpb, & thinkfan .. not sure what's happening though
02:09<zeeble>let me try installing a different DE and see if it allows.
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02:27<zeeble>jm_: Hey. The brightness controls started working after installing xbacklight ..
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02:32<SamB_laptop>isn't packaging talk off-topic for #debian ;-P
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02:59<shylent>SamB_laptop: well, where is it *not* offtopic then? I'll be glad to head over there then
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03:07<SamB_laptop>shylent: #debian-devel and #debian-mentors are two places I frequent
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03:11<delparnel>morning all.
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05:05<omar>hay evry body
05:06<omar>can any one help me to confgure my emails on thimbred
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05:37<anton>русские есть ?
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05:43<petn-randall>!ru
05:43<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
05:44<petn-randall>gah
05:44<ixi>he left :)
05:45<petn-randall>Yeah, missede the quit message.
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06:13<snebel>Hi
06:13<snebel>i have a problem, whenever i install any package with apt
06:14<snebel>this stops the mysql database i have installed on into this system
06:15<jm_>!bat
06:15<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
06:15<snebel>it's lik after trigger any package for exmaple man-db
06:15<snebel>try to stop the database
06:16<snebel>i found that this mysql package is "not fully installed" after do apt-get -V --just-print upgrade
06:16<snebel>dpkg: i'll provide
06:16<dpkg>snebel: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
06:16<delparnel>lol
06:17<jm_>yeah I suspected reconfiguration doing this for you and that's why I asked for the output
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06:19<snebel>http://paste.debian.net/143721/
06:20<snebel>let me know if you need something in addition
06:20<snebel>this is like because this package is not "fully installed" cause this
06:20<snebel>but not sure how to debug it, for information mysql database is working perfectly
06:20<snebel>i just have to restart it manually after any apt installation
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06:22<jm_>how many mysql init scripts do you have?
06:22<snebel>al least 2
06:22<snebel>at least 2
06:22<jm_>why?
06:23<snebel>let me check
06:23<snebel>well, we have a main database and a replica slave
06:23<snebel>this is not very good but this is the current config i found
06:23<snebel>and is working
06:23<jm_>try renaming the second one then
06:24<snebel>they have different names
06:24<jm_>also in LSB headers
06:24<snebel>mmmm
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06:24<snebel>LSB headers? this is new for me let me take a look into google
06:25<jm_>!lsb tags
06:25<dpkg>From 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, Debian uses a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires all init scripts having appropriate headers, so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from 3.1 "Sarge" and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
06:25<snebel>let me take a look and i'll back if any doubt
06:25<snebel>:-)
06:26<snebel>yep this provide section is bad
06:27<snebel>there is mysql in both
06:27<snebel>how that hell did you figured out this?
06:27<snebel>:-)
06:27<jm_>yeah rename one then dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
06:27<jm_>the tool tells you: insserv: script mysql: service mysql already provided!
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06:30<snebel>/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed
06:30<snebel>any ideas?
06:31<jm_>try dpkg --pending --configure
06:31<jm_>should have said that in the first place
06:32<snebel>one inetresting thig is that i tried to install a new package and now, mysql is stopped too however then starts automatically which is good...
06:32<snebel>this dpkg --pending --configure worked!
06:33<snebel>so now everything seems working!
06:34<snebel>thank you soo much both: jm_ and dpkg
06:34<snebel>:-)
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06:34<jm_>no problem
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06:44<ha3dwa3>hello there
06:44<ixi>hi
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09:23<Sinus>Has anyone an idea why my btrfs harddisk get a new UUID when I boot with new kernel
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10:29<delparnel>Sinus: Maybe this? https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
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11:58<rex>pui o
11:59<rex>nyone out there?
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12:00<asura>yes am out there
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12:01<asura>having fun with fw.rules
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12:03<asura>also admiring out of date package bases on some packages
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12:04<retrospectacus>do you have a Debian question?
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12:06<asura>no.. not really.. I am not new to debian
12:06*asura is not a n00b
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12:08<rasta>i have wordpress issues on debian which channel do i use
12:08<rasta>?
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12:09<asura>actually scratch that I do have a question, every linux kernel of late has pae enabled, whilst this is great for pae enabled stuff are there any kernel repositories for non-pae enabled kernels such as the legacy Pentium4?
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12:09<Brigo>rasta, if you are using wheezy, you can use this one.
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12:10<rasta>ok, i want to have more than one website on 1 WP installation, how do i do that?
12:10<asura>Or is it very much a case of reading half a million lines of code and editing out the bits you dont want or need?
12:11<Brigo>rasta, i think you have to configure your http server to do that.
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12:12<retrospectacus>rasta: I think no. But you can have multiple WP sites on one server, using one database
12:13<retrospectacus>the wordpress channel might know specifically about multiple sites on one WP installation
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12:13<retrospectacus>I have used WP a lot and never seen anything like that
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12:14<rasta>is it wise to have 2 completely different websites, use the same database
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12:15<retrospectacus>no it's not. but if you are limited to some number of databases for some reason, maybe you would
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12:23<ixi>asura you could download a kernel source and build one that suits you.
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12:25<asura>ixi yeap looking at that now
12:25<rasta>in that case, how about two or more websites each with its own database?
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12:31<jhutchins_wk>rasta: We have multiple servers that serve the same web site and use a common database, but if they're different sites it would make more sense to keep the data seperate.
12:31<jhutchins_wk>rasta: Also means a corrupt table only takes down one site.
12:31<rasta>great, how would i set up that kind of system
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12:32<rasta>I'm practicing on localhost by the way
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12:36<retrospectacus>rasta: what kind of system?
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12:37<blast007>asura: I was under the impression that every Intel processor from the Pentium Pro and up has PAE (though some Pentium M's incorrectly state they lack support for it, when in fact they actually do)
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12:39<asura>blast007 thanks for telling me, I was looking at Liquorix kernels, contemplating
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12:40<asura>but now that I know its got pae in it somewhere, i'll probably leave it be.. although I am sorely tempted to try grSecurity & PAX controls
12:41<asura>not too keen on the idea of having SE-managed shite in my kernel
12:42<jhutchins_wk>rasta: I don't know what you actually want, but you could use something like drupal or wordpress to get an idea of how a LAMP stack works.
12:42<asura>it wouldnt be so bad if there was actually an easy way to configure policies for it, but meh
12:43<blast007>asura: the Ubuntu wiki page for PAE may have some information relevant for Debian as well: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE (I have not tried the 'forcepae' boot option on Debian, but it might work for CPUs that report a lack of PAE)
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12:44<asura>blast007 it wasnt really a case of the cpu complaining, just me bitching! I read the wiki but dont need to force PAE, but the wiki says Later than Pentium Pro, IE: there talking all that DUEL core garbage
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12:45<blast007>no, they're not talking about dual core
12:45<asura>if its later than pentium pro, then I would take that to mean Intel Xeon
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12:46<asura>x86 is actually not so bad, it works.. in some cases better than 64 bit, 64 bit is a headache imho
12:47<blast007>nope.. that's not what the pentium pro refers to.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_Pro
12:47<jhutchins_wk>asura: Those cases are getting fewer. Multiarch isn't perfect yet, but there are fewer and fewer problems.
12:48<asura>blast007 yes it is, its right there on the WIKI page Cores = 1
12:49*asura glares suspiciously at duel core OS in light of all the spying news and mutters, "oh I see, a core for you and a core for me!"
12:49<blast007>can't tell if trolling...
12:49<asura>lol
12:49<Brigo>any op here?
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12:50<asura>thx for the help NE-Way @ Blast007
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12:51<jhutchins_wk>rasta: As for multi-site wordpress, the wordpress docs cover that pretty well.
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12:54<jhutchins_wk>rasta: I have 42 sites on one server, but it's not a one-step setup.
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13:06<rasta>jhutchins: Another question. Only default permalinks work on my local WP installation. If i try to change them to /postname, I get 404, how can i fix this?
13:11<retrospectacus>rasta: set up mod_rewrite
13:12<retrospectacus>and/or corresponding .htaccess
13:12<rasta>i have tried 10 times, i cant seem to get it right
13:12<blast007>rasta: make sure the rewrite module is actually enabled (run 'a2enmod rewrite' as root and the restart apache with 'service apache2 restart')
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13:14<rasta>done
13:14<rasta>does this mean it should now work?
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13:18<rasta>i created a new page, and published it but when i clicked view page... 404
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13:18<rasta>blast007: i created a new page, and published it but when i clicked view page... 404
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13:19<jhutchins_wk>rasta: This is really neither a #debian nor an #ubuntu question, you should consult the docs and support for WordPress, not us.
13:19<rasta>jhutchins_wk: i did, i am here as a last resort
13:19<retrospectacus>check logs, verify .htaccess
13:20<rasta>retrospectacus: how do i do that?
13:20<jhutchins_wk>rasta: That doesn't mean this is an appropriate place.
13:20<retrospectacus>it is a well documented problem/solution and we can't help much more than the doc.
13:20<rasta>i have researched the docs for days
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13:20<jhutchins_wk>rasta: Seriously? /var/log/apache/error.log!?
13:21<jhutchins_wk>rasta: We don't believe you.
13:21<retrospectacus>how could you research for days and now know how to check the logs
13:21<retrospectacus>not* know
13:21<jhutchins_wk>He also asked me where to find the wordpress docs...
13:21<rasta>i have entered so many codes in terminal but still no permalinks, they said i should change permissions to 777 still didnt work..
13:22<retrospectacus>rasta: you need to actually read and learn, not just try random things
13:23<rasta>i have learnt alot in the process but nothing to help me solve the pretty permalinks issue
13:23<^^^Red^^^>Hello all, I've a problem with squirrelmail, after fixed a problem that download the php of page instead of open it in browser, now it says to me that there isn't config/config.php but the file in /usr/share/config/config.php exist and I have already run squirrelmail-configure and open config.php, it seems configured as I ask. I've followed the perfect server guide for ISPconfig. the site where you can see the issue is server.clientipiu.com/webmail. I've als
13:23<^^^Red^^^>o found an post that talk about this problem but it is old (2005) and not sure that effective helps me. any suggestion is appreciated, thanks
13:23<retrospectacus>rasta: .htaccess should be in the web root. It should be readale by the web server. 777 is not necessary. The logs are where jhutchins_wk said. Just read the end of them for info.
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13:26<retrospectacus>rasta: the docs and a million google sites say the same thing.
13:27<rasta>i am at error.log..i wish i knew what to look for here
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13:27<rasta>File does not exist: /var/www/testa
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13:27<rasta>thats the name of the page i just created
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13:28<retrospectacus>rasta: what does /var/www/.htaccess look like (do not paste it here)
13:29<rasta>lemme check
13:29<rasta>there are no hidden folders/files in /var/www
13:30<rasta>.htaccess doesnt exist
13:30<retrospectacus>rasta: I don't believe you have done any research into this problem
13:30<rasta>i have, this is the 3rd WP installation
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13:31<retrospectacus>rasta: did you read this? http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Permalinks
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13:32<retrospectacus>rasta: I should not have to google the simplest things for you
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13:32<retrospectacus>it tells you all about the htaccess file
13:33<rasta>i went throughthis step in my previous WP installs, it didnt help. this is a fresh install i am using
13:33<retrospectacus>If you went through it, the file would exist! Stop lying
13:34<rasta>i completely purged WP two times and changed from lint to debian. i dont know why u dont believe me
13:34<rasta>*mint
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13:37<retrospectacus>you said you read the docs. They say to create .htaccess or the pretty links won't work. You are wondering why pretty permalinks don't work
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13:40<rasta>i created .htaccess pasted everything i was supposed to. still get a 404
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13:44<rasta>retrospctacus: i read the docs. I created .htaccess. still getting 404
13:44<rasta>i filled the .htaccess file with the copy/paste material
13:46<delparnel>rasta: Try asking in #wordpress on Freenode. This is very offtopic for this channel.
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13:47<retrospectacus>did you read the log again?
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13:49<rasta>retrospectacus: log says the pag i just created and published is missing
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13:51<^^^Red^^^>Hello all, I've a problem with squirrelmail, after fixed a problem that download the php of page instead of open it in browser, now it says to me that there isn't config/config.php but the file in /usr/share/config/config.php exist and I have already run squirrelmail-configure and open config.php, it seems configured as I ask. I've followed the perfect server guide for ISPconfig. the site where you can see the issue is server.clientipiu.com/webmail. I've als
13:51<^^^Red^^^>o found an post that talk about this problem but it is old (2005) and not sure that effective helps me. any suggestion is appreciated, thanks
13:51<gkvkh>Please what is the /etc/apt/sources.list by default on whyzee 7.8 ?
13:52<retrospectacus>!wheezy sources.list
13:52<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list".
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13:52<gkvkh>thanks
13:53<gkvkh>thanks
13:53<retrospectacus>yw
13:53*SamB_laptop wonders what dpkg has against source packages
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13:55<blast007>SamB_laptop: probably the fact that most people never use apt and friends to download source packages and thus it's a waste of resources to pull/parse/store information about them? ;)
13:56<retrospectacus>he does refer to them, but yes they are generally unnecessary
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13:56<SamB_laptop>point
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13:59<^^^Red^^^>I saw you just have a frustrating WP support, but anyone can help me?
14:00<gkvkh>root@myDebian:/home/superutilisateur# apt-get install codeblocks E: Impossible d'obtenir le verrou /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Ressource temporairement non disponible) E: Impossible de verrouiller le répertoire d'administration (/var/lib/dpkg/). Il est possible qu'un autre processus l'utilise. root@myDebian:/home/superutilisateur#
14:00<gkvkh>What is the matter please ?
14:00<^^^Red^^^>sudo
14:00<retrospectacus>^^^Red^^^: it looks like your mod_php is not enabled (on that location)
14:00<retrospectacus>gkvkh: apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/update-notifier is already running
14:01<retrospectacus>gkvkh: you might want <wheezy-backports> to get a newer codeblocks.
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14:05<gkvkh>What I need concretly ?
14:05<^^^Red^^^>gkvkh, reboot
14:05<retrospectacus>gkvkh: kill/stop/quit any running package manager
14:06<retrospectacus>that would also work, but is not necessary
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14:06<gkvkh>okay
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14:12<^^^Red^^^>retrospectacus, This is what I've changed on /etc/apache2/conf.d/squirrelmail.conf , follow the perfect server guide ISPConfig: http://paste.debian.net/143808/
14:12<gkvkh>deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.5.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 201404$ By what I need to substitute that to download packaging on internet from terminal ?
14:13<retrospectacus>gkvkh: remove that CDrom line from sources.list
14:13<retrospectacus>and "apt-get update" of course
14:14<retrospectacus>^^^Red^^^: have you enabled php5 module? "a2enmod php5"
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14:21<^^^Red^^^>missing libphp5... i don't know how it is possible
14:21<^^^Red^^^>however reinstalled and fixed, thanks retrospectacus
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14:21<retrospectacus>np
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14:23*^^^Red^^^ offers a beer to retrospectacus
14:24<retrospectacus>why thank you :)
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14:25<gkvkh>" <retrospectacus> gkvkh: remove that CDrom line from sources.list " What is the line I need to write and where exactly ?
14:26<retrospectacus>gkvkh: /etc/apt/sources.list which you were asking about earlier....
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14:26<retrospectacus>you need to remove or comment out a line like deb cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux etc.etc.
14:26<^^^Red^^^>Cya Guys, Have a nice day, and Thanks again
14:26<retrospectacus>have fun red
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14:27<gkvkh>Yes but I remove by what ?
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14:27<blast007>with a command line text editor like nano, run as root
14:27<retrospectacus>werent you already editing that file?
14:27<gkvkh>no
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14:28<gkvkh>not yet
14:28<retrospectacus>oh. Yes with a text editor as root.
14:29<gkvkh>What is the new line with wich we remove the old on sources.list ?
14:30<blast007>gkvkh: there is no "new line". You just need to remove or comment out (with a # at the start of the line) the cdrom source
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14:31<gkvkh>okay
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14:36<gkvkh>Done !
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14:40<blast007>gkvkh: then you just need to 'apt-get update' to refresh the package database and you should be good
14:40<gkvkh>Hello. I have just that deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main on my sources.list Debian. It does not look great for the security. Does it miss lines ?
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14:40<blast007>what do you mean "it does not look great for the security"?
14:41<rainfyre>think he means he has no security sources lines in his sources.list
14:41<rainfyre>oh, nm
14:41<blast007>but he does.. thus the confusion :)
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14:43<gkvkh> " <rainfyre> think he means he has no security sources lines in his sources.list " Yes it is. I have not the update security line.
14:44<retrospectacus>gkvkh: yes, you do.
14:44<Brigo>!security
14:44<dpkg>Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>.
14:44<retrospectacus>gkvkh: gkvkh> Hello. I have.... deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates
14:44<retrospectacus>gkvkh: you already have it
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14:46<gkvkh>Yes But I have not indicated the miror adress.
14:46<retrospectacus>what?
14:47<retrospectacus>it's security.debian.org
14:47<SamB_laptop>no mirror names
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14:48<SamB_laptop>mirrors can't be relied upon not to intentionally delay access to security updates...
14:48<gkvkh>okay nice
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14:48<jhutchins_wk>SamB_laptop: Mirrors don't work that way.
14:49<gkvkh>So there is a security problem ?
14:49<blast007>gkvkh: why do you think there is a security problem?
14:49<SamB_laptop>jhutchins_wk: oh really?
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14:50<SamB_laptop>jhutchins_wk: so what prevents a mirror of s.d.o from intentionally providing a stale tree to clients?
14:50<rainfyre>like, a couple of hours stale?
14:50<SamB_laptop>I was thinking maybe a couple of days?
14:50<gkvkh>okay thanks
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14:51<retrospectacus>gkvkh: you're good to go.
14:51<gkvkh>okay
14:51<retrospectacus>gkvkh: you could though, add wheezy-backports which would give you a newer version of codeblocks
14:51<retrospectacus>13 instead of 10
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14:51<dondelelcaro>SamB_laptop: thats precisely why the signatures have limited lifetimes
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14:51<dondelelcaro>SamB_laptop: and why you can change how fresh your mirror has to be
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14:52<retrospectacus>gkvkh: see http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ if you are interested
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14:53<SamB_laptop>oh, if they're THAT limited, I'm going to go with "they don't expect that to be mirrored because mirrors don't update quickly enough for the signatures to still be valid when you go to grab them" ;-P
14:53<jhutchins_wk>SamB_laptop: Mirrors that did things like that would be noticed and removed. The updates are completely automated.
14:54<SamB_laptop>jhutchins_wk: I was imagining IP-dependent trickery
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14:54<jhutchins_wk>SamB_laptop: Imagining being a key element.
14:55<rainfyre>heh
14:55<SamB_laptop>hey, it's easier than MITM ;-P
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15:00<SamB_laptop>hmm, I'm seeing a Valid-until 10 days later than the Date on the Releases file from s.d.o ...
15:01<SamB_laptop>er. Release, rather
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15:59<badelvis>Hi Debian channel
16:00<ekl>lo
16:01<rainfyre>howdy
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16:01<badelvis>I have a question on multiple debian systems. Can I use the same /boot partiiton (about 256 MB) for two different debian systems. One 64-bit and one 32-bit?
16:02<Brigo>badelvis, it is too small
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16:02<Brigo>a debian kernel will user almost 100 MB
16:03<badelvis>ATM, I have one system and my boot partiiton is 15% full
16:03<Brigo>badelvis, oh, sorry, the boot only, it does not contain the kernel
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16:04<Brigo>badelvis, you are right. Sorry
16:05<Brigo>badelvis, i am not sure if grub will can deal with that.
16:05<badelvis>Yes, I wonder as well
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16:06<badelvis>The alternative would be to have a second boot partition for the second system and then chainload the second bootloader. Which would be a more complicated solution.
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16:10<jhutchins_wk>badelvis: Perhaps we need to define "two different debian systems".
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16:11<badelvis>two times going throught the debian installer?
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16:11<jhutchins_wk>badelvis: So dualboot/multiboot. Yes, you can do that with some effort.
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16:12<jhutchins_wk>badelvis: You might break some automation, as you probably want one installation to always manage the /boot.
16:12<jhutchins_wk>badelvis: Actually, I think there could be some advantages.
16:12<badelvis>Ok, but which installation will be the "master" installation to manage the /boot partition?
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16:13<jhutchins_wk>badelvis: That is completely up to you.
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16:14<jhutchins_wk>badelvis: I've always done dedicated /boot trees (not partitions) for each install, but it's been stable + testing or multiple distributions.
16:14<jhutchins_wk>badelvis: For 32+64 of the same release it's much more compatible.
16:14<jhutchins_wk>badelvis: Do it, document it!
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16:14<badelvis>Ok, I have a separate boot partition because the root is on an LVM which is in a LUKS container
16:16<jakenl>Hello, anyone familiar with wheezy-backports?
16:16<badelvis>So to boot nicely, I have a small unencrypted boot partition.
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16:18<jhutchins_wk>jakenl: Various people have various experience with it, ask your actual question.
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16:20<jakenl>Ah, ok. Why does it seem as if packages are (silently?) removed from Wheezy-backports?
16:20<jakenl>If you want an example have a look at owncloud_7.0.2+dfgs-1~bpo70+2
16:24<jhutchins_wk>jakenl: Nothing silent about it. Un-met dependencies.
16:24<jhutchins_wk>jakenl: If you use backports you should subscribe to the mailing list.
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16:25<jhutchins_wk>jakenl: We're getting to the point where more and more dependencies require updating to update a major package, and it's startng to make more sense to just wait for jessie rather than keep trying to push things into wheezy.
16:25<jakenl>jhutchins_wk: Ok, I can see that as a reason for it to be removed.
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16:26<jakenl>jhutchins_wk: I was surprised it disappeared from the website after I visited that just a few days ago.
16:27<jakenl>jhutchins_wk: If stuff is removed from Testing there still a page up. And yes I know that's a different site.
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16:37<jakenl>jhutchins_wk: Ok, found it in the mailing list archive. Too bad it had to be dropped :/
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16:39<KYD>anyone know how to change the login background in Antix linux?
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16:40<ompaul>!based on debian
16:40<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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16:45<ekl>a (should be) simple question , i just installed debian on a remote vm (esxi) and the dhcp autoconfiguration during the install process failed, so i run a shell and configured /etc/network/interfaces manually and continued with the rest of the installation process, but this skipped the apt configuration step and gave me a fairly minimal system, can someone briefly remember me the differences between this sit
16:45<ekl>uation and the "normal" system i should get with a normal net-install (without additional services etc)? i guess the first step now should be selecting a mirror and installing sshd, any suggestion ?
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16:53<dotut>trying to block iperf traffic on port 5001 using iptables...added filters for TCP/UDP 'sudo iptables -A INPUT -p udp --dport 5001 -j REJECT'
16:53<dotut>but i can still run iperf tests from a remote host to my host
16:53<dotut>any ideas on the proper filter rule for iptables to block iperf traffic?
16:53<abrotman>dotut: #netfilter on irc.freenode.net
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16:53<abrotman>the order of your rules matters
16:54<dotut>abrotman: thanks ill try there as well.
16:54<valdyn>dotut: using -A is probably wrong for a rule like that, you want to use -I more likely
16:54<dotut>abrotman: i don't have any other rules except that one (i run iptables -F before i add the rules)
16:54<dotut>valdyn: -I? ok I can try that
16:55<valdyn>dotut: well, thats only if you have multiple rules
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16:56<dotut>valdyn: yeah that's what i figured..anyways i guess i'll try on #netfilter
16:56<valdyn>dotut: I think the rule is fine, maybe your iperf is just using another port
16:56<valdyn>dotut: ( or protocol )
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16:57<dotut>valdyn: don't think so...have a tcpdump session open see the following 'IP 192.168.1.184.38373 > 192.168.1.253.5001: UDP, length 1470' when i run iperf test
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17:48<draxdeveloper>hello
17:48<draxdeveloper>wine is not working on my debian.
17:48<draxdeveloper>i installed wine, winetricks, playonlinux... But don't even show the wine app, neither winetricks
17:49<nkuttler>draxdeveloper: how do you know it's not working?
17:49<draxdeveloper>well, is not showing the option to open a app with wine
17:49<draxdeveloper>i have also de q3wine, but i am having path problems in the configuration
17:51<SamB_laptop>how else would you run a Windows program anyway?
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17:52<draxdeveloper>almost of times, i just installed the wine and linux would execute .exe apps
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17:52<Brigo>draxdeveloper, can you run winecfg?
17:53<draxdeveloper>in the terminal?
17:53<SamB_laptop>draxdeveloper: what architecture did you install?
17:53<Brigo>draxdeveloper, who execs what is desktop environment related issue
17:53<draxdeveloper>is there just the mono runtime option
17:53<draxdeveloper>my debian is 64
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17:54<draxdeveloper>Brigo, i have tryed more than one exe, and none is runing
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17:55<draxdeveloper>i even tried this:
17:55<draxdeveloper>apt-get install wine-bin:i386
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17:55<SamB_laptop>draxdeveloper: what happened?
17:56<Brigo>draxdeveloper, the problem is not about wine but your desktop environment. Are you using gnome?
17:56<SamB_laptop>did it install?
17:56<SamB_laptop>draxdeveloper: when you run "wine foo.exe", does it work?
17:56<draxdeveloper>brigo, yes
17:57<draxdeveloper>wine did not find mono
17:57<draxdeveloper>with the foo.exe
17:57<draxdeveloper>installing it now
17:58<draxdeveloper>also, i don't have sure, but it's seens that i dont have the i386 installed
17:58<SamB_laptop>draxdeveloper: oh, I guess that's a .NET app
17:58<Brigo>draxdeveloper, well, i do not use ti, but i think if you click the .exe with the right button you will get a menu where you can select the app which will run the .exe
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17:58<draxdeveloper>Brigo, yes... But wine is not in the list
17:58<SamB_laptop>draxdeveloper: I mean, if wine complained that way
17:59<draxdeveloper>in fact, i cant see wine anywere, normally i can see it on the menu
17:59<Brigo>draxdeveloper, don't you have the option to select a new one?
17:59<draxdeveloper>Brigo, yes, but dont have idea where wine is
17:59<SamB_laptop>draxdeveloper: did you try logging out since installing wine?
17:59<draxdeveloper>ahn... no lol
17:59<Brigo>which wine will tell you :)
18:00<draxdeveloper>makes sense try this -_-
18:00<SamB_laptop>though I guess it probably refreshes the menu as you go ...
18:00<SamB_laptop>who knows
18:00<draxdeveloper>also, how i check if i have the i386 libs?
18:01<draxdeveloper>i forget how install it on x64 debian
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18:01<SamB_laptop>!ia32libs
18:01<draxdeveloper>ty
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18:01<SamB_laptop>er, I was hoping dpkg was going to explain how it's going away
18:02<SamB_laptop>might have spelled it wrong
18:02<draxdeveloper>lol
18:02<SamB_laptop>!ia32-libs
18:02<dpkg>ia32-* packages provide a subset of libraries from <i386> for <amd64> systems. They are typically needed by 32-bit only software (such as <skype> or <wine>) and have been obsoleted in Debian 7 "Wheezy" by the introduction of <multiarch>. Wheezy users should ask me about <upgrade ia32 libs> for upgrade instructions.
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18:03<draxdeveloper>hum... i use debian 8
18:03<draxdeveloper>so it's in this multiarch stuff
18:03<abrotman>yes, ia32-libs have been gone for awhile
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18:04<draxdeveloper>so, i will try to reboot here
18:04<SamB_laptop>there's still a package, but it's mostly just there to get people started with the new way ...
18:04<abrotman>it's a transitional package
18:04<SamB_laptop>draxdeveloper: rebooting is overkill!
18:05<draxdeveloper>a, you are saying that i can just logoff right? ok, i will do this
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18:09<draxdeveloper>yeah... no Wine
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18:11<draxdeveloper>well, i will try to force debian to open the exe with wine, and i am using winetricks
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18:14<draxdeveloper>it's works =D ty for the help
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19:39<soundconjurer>Does the Debian 8 RC automatically become the Debian 8 Final?
19:39<soundconjurer>It upgrades into it?
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19:40<soundconjurer>IDENTIFY
19:41<retrospectacus>not automatically; you have to "apt-get upgrade" or more likely dist-upgrade
19:42<soundconjurer>Ah, ok. Thank you.
19:43<soundconjurer>Because the Debian Chromium Browser is EOL. And it says to upgrade early to the upcoming stable release... and I know only RC1 is out.
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20:16<joseph-soares>Hi, I made this to try record video and audio at the same time http://askubuntu.com/questions/112473/audio-not-working-for-gnome-screencast-ctrl-alt-shift-r
20:16<joseph-soares>now I can't stop recording audio
20:16<joseph-soares>how can I stop the audio recording?
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20:18<joseph-soares>I'm using Debian Wheezy
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20:21<paxmark9>joseph-soares quick and dirty would be (h)top to identify the process and the kill process# and if pesky kill -9 process# . But my guess is that you might lose your recording.
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20:31<joseph-soares>paxmark9, I can't see which process is running recording
20:31<joseph-soares>I know the file and the time it started
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20:58<paxmark9>joseph-soares htop or top will have time elapsed which might work. Maybe more knowledgeable people will chime in. I avoid gnome.
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