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00:07<somiaj>,v tor
00:07<judd>Package: tor on i386 -- squeeze-security: 0.2.2.39-1; squeeze: 0.2.2.39-1; squeeze-security-lts: 0.2.4.23-1~deb6u1; wheezy-security: 0.2.4.23-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 0.2.4.24-1; jessie: 0.2.5.10-1; sid: 0.2.5.10-1; experimental: 0.2.6.2-alpha-1
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00:08<somiaj>zack_: how are you trying to install tor?
00:11<zack_>via terminal
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00:13<zack_>somiaj, I used the correct repos. But let me get the error message once more.
00:14<zack_>somiaj, I have tor installed it just wont run.
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00:14<PovAddict>how are you trying to run it? what error do you get if you try?
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00:15<zack_>PovAddict, also, via terminal
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00:20<zack_>PovAddict, http://pastebin.com/iePfBAP7
00:21<PovAddict>I never used tor
00:21<PovAddict>but I'm going to guess: the package already configures tor to run on startup
00:21<PovAddict>so it's already running
00:21<PovAddict>what does "pidof tor" say?
00:22<zack_>3042 PovAddict
00:22<PovAddict>so it's running already
00:25<zack_>PovAddict, bash: kill: tor: arguments must be process or job ID: when i use 'kill tor'
00:25<zack_>what can i do
00:26<PovAddict>why do you want to kill it?
00:26<zack_>Doesnt that mean kill the program?
00:26<zack_>Like close it
00:26<PovAddict>no, kill takes a PID
00:26<PovAddict>and either way
00:26<zack_>so i can use it
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00:27<zack_>OH
00:27<PovAddict>the proper way to stop a service is 'service tor stop'
00:27<zack_>okay thanks
00:28<zack_>Im knew to the Debian distro as of today
00:28<zack_>Bye
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00:30<SamB_laptop>that can't be the proper way
00:30<SamB_laptop>it doesn't work on wheezy
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01:06<zack_>okay I am having a problem with tor again. When i start it up it just lags and says bootstrap 100%. I am lost....
01:07<zack_>nvm
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01:38<lancelot>Every time I update, and some other times, I can't access ONLY youtube, with any browser.I can ping youtube.When I do a reverse lookup, i get this: host 200.115.95.45
01:38<lancelot>Host 45.95.115.200.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
01:39<lancelot>How do I fix it?
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02:19<petn-randall>lancelot: There's no PTR record for that IP address, so that is the correct and expected output. What do you update that breaks you DNS? How does the broken DNS show?
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05:00<casper366>hi. i tried to cron a command (import -window root -crop 800x600+0+0 head.png) but it returned: import.im6: unable to open X server `' @ error/import.c/ImportImageCommand/368.
05:00<casper366>I guess cron doesn't "see" my screen. is there a way to let it see it?
05:01<jm_>set DISPLAY properly in the script and ensure the calling user has access
05:01<jm_>(or in the cron job definition)
05:01<casper366>when i crontab -e as user1, then user1 has to have access, correct?
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05:02<jm_>if X was started as user1 then yes
05:02<casper366>thanks
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05:03<jm_>no problem
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05:06<jm_>import also knows about -display so one can do it that way too
05:06<casper366>setting DISPLAY=":0" in my script didn't work. the user has rights t do that
05:06<casper366>ok, I'll try that
05:06<jm_>well check the error message
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05:18<casper366>works like a charm. i wrote 'export DISPLAY=":0"'
05:19<casper366>thank you for your help sir
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06:13<alvin>I installed rxvt-unicode on debian testing with i3 wm. I wanted to change the font/color scheme. Does anybody know how to do that?
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06:15<nkuttler>alvin: well, man rxvt tells you
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06:15<nkuttler>i use my ~/.Xdefaults to configure it
06:15<alvin>nkuttler: thanks. where can i find that config file?
06:16<nkuttler>you create it in ~/ if you want to use it
06:16<jm_>try reading /usr/share/doc/rxvt-unicode/README.{FAQ.gz,README.configure.gz}
06:16<jm_>man page lists all the settings
06:17<alvin>nkuttler: I see. Thank you. This is the first time I've experimented with other terminals.
06:18<alvin>nkuttler: so I just create the config file in my home dir. Do you recommend any settings?
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06:19<alvin>nkuttler: Wouldn't mind adding some nice color schemes/fonts. By default it looks a bit plain. Not to mention impossible to read.
06:19<nkuttler>alvin: you can google examples
06:19<nkuttler>but let me paste mine, just a sec
06:19<nkuttler>that is, if you like how it looks.. http://misc.kuttler.eu/desktop.jpg
06:20<alvin>nkuttler: Thanks I apprechiate it. I had a look on google for some tutorials. Although I found some, it wasn't clear that I had to create the config file myself. All this time I was trying to find it.
06:21<alvin>nkuttler: I suppose we all have to start some where
06:21<nkuttler>http://paste.debian.net/144661/
06:21<alvin>thanks
06:22<nkuttler>that's for rxvt-unicode-256color and the terminus font installed
06:22<alvin>nkuttler: do you use i3 by any chance?
06:22<nkuttler>no, openbox
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06:22<alvin>nkuttler: I've heard good things about terminus. Ill check it out.
06:23<alvin>nkuttler: Just one question, when you did your fresh install, did you have to configure anything to improve the default font rendering?
06:24<alvin>nkuttler: Only I noticed it was really bad after I did my base netinstall with i3 and xorg
06:24<nkuttler>alvin: not really, but i install the ms core fonts for the browsers
06:25<alvin>nkuttler: right, I'll keep that in mind. Pity about crunchbanf
06:25<alvin>* crunchbang
06:25<nkuttler>oh my. welcome to debian
06:25<alvin>nkuttler: ?
06:25<nkuttler>?
06:25<alvin>nkuttler: I thought crunchbang was fairly popular
06:26<nkuttler>i wouldn't know
06:26<alvin>jm_: Thanks mate, just checking that out
06:27<alvin>nkuttler: thanks for you help
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06:31<raph_ael>hi, I updated a server to jessie, and the ipv6 conf in /etc/networ/interfaces that worked in wheezy does not put the interface up for ipv6, no error in logs, some things have changed about ipv6 in jessie ? thanks
06:31<jm_>alvin: no worries
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06:34<jm_>raph_ael: try using ifup -v and then use the commands by hand to see what's going on
06:35<jm_>checking BTS also makes sense
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06:35<raph_ael>jm_: thanks, and btw what is BTS ?
06:36<jm_>!bts
06:36<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS
06:36<raph_ael>thanks again
06:37<raph_ael>I looked for bugs, but couldn't find any
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06:50<jm_>!ask
06:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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06:56<alvin>jm_: I read through the FAQ but couldn't see anything which related to changing font or color scheme. Did I miss something?
06:57<jm_>alvin: there are many examples for changing colours and fonts in there
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06:58<alvin>jm_: The subheadings seem to about other topics. As I mentioned, this is totally new for me and although it may seem clear to you it doesn't for me.
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07:00<jm_>alvin: then read the man page instead and base it on the one from the paste
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07:02<jm_>be adventurous - it won't kill you, you can easily go back to defaults, see also /etc/X11/app-defaults/URxvt
07:04<alvin>jm_: not concerned about damging the system. All I want is simple clear instruction on how to change the font or add a different color scheme> I have spent the last few days trolling through serach results which explain nothing. Just like the man page.
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07:04<alvin>* search
07:04<jm_>alvin: nkuttler already provided you with an example
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07:05<alvin>jm_: if only a partial explanation at best. Don't worry about it.
07:06<jm_>alvin: configuration is done via x resources, you can read about that on wikipedia if you care enough
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07:09<alvin>jm_: if I care enough? come on mate, I'm new. I thought I explained that. It doesn't tell me what I want to know. similarly there is no suggestion on any site I've seen so far that I have to create the config myself. How is someone with no knowledge meant to know that?
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07:10<jm_>alvin: don't complain to me, how about you write a readme file for the tool and send it to upstream so others benefit from your experience then?
07:10<alvin>jm_: This back and forth is not helping anyone. You can't help me. Pointing someone to a man page or wiki is next to useless when they are new.
07:11<alvin>jm_: Don't offer then
07:11<jm_>if you think i'll do the homework for you then you are mistaken I'm affraid
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07:12<alvin>jm_: no I just wanted some guidance. I couldn't make head or tails of it. There appeared to be some assumed knowledge which I didn't have. I'm not an expert.
07:13<jm_>alvin: no problem, feel free to wait here if someone can afford the time to explain it to you in more details
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07:15<alvin>jm_: not looking to spoon fed. just wanted some help on something which is not documented well for new users. BTY I am trying to write a user friendly guide to help new users. Its a big step when you haen't done it before.
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07:16<jm_>alvin: consider adding it to the debian wiki
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07:16<alvin>jm_: or i could be a dick and say read the man page
07:17<alvin>jm_: But Im not
07:17<jm_>ahh ok, i'll ignore you
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07:18<alvin>jm_: similar to your help useless
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07:21<nkuttler>alvin: now i regret helping you
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07:25<TobiX>alvin: There is a chapter "RESOURCES" in the man page of rxvt-unicode, which should be a good quickstart on how to use X-resources to configure urxvt
07:26<alvin>TobiX: Thank you. I'll have a read.
07:27<TobiX>alvin: You might also want to use command line options to test some settings before making them permanent by writing them to the config file
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08:32<Wulf>Hi
08:33<Wulf>I made a change to a package. I believe that I need to create a new entry in debian/changelog. Is there any command to help me with it, or should I copy+paste and edit manually?
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08:35<Wulf>never mind, it appears to be `dch'
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08:36<petn-randall>Wulf: Yes, it's 'dch'. '-i' automatically increments the debversion for you.
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08:42<SOUL_OF_R00T>hello guys good morning, anyone known if iphone works fine with alinux environment?
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08:47<TobiX>SOUL_OF_R00T: See https://wiki.debian.org/iPhone for a starting point
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08:47<SOUL_OF_R00T>ok TobiX very thabks for atention, i havo look on it but rest some doubts
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08:48<SOUL_OF_R00T>i take a look on debian wiki again, thanks
08:48<TobiX>It's probably not a good idea, since you need iTunes to make backups and such (IIRC)
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08:51<SOUL_OF_R00T>very thanks guys, back again later !
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10:05<raph_ael>ok so for the ipv6 on eth0 that stopped working from wheezy to jessie, my workaround was to set up ipv4 on eth0 and ipv6 on eth0:1 if it can help anybody
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10:08<petn-randall>Hi raph_ael, it's best to just explain your problem with details, and that way someone can respond with suggestions.
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10:10<raph_ael>petn-randall: I explained a few hours before, it's just my solution to the fact that my interfaces conf that worked on wheezy stopped working on jessie just for ipv6
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10:13<petn-randall>raph_ael: Yes, but what do you observe? Does ifup throw an error, does ipv6 get wrongly configured, or not at all?
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10:28<raph_ael>petn-randall: no ipv6 at all, no errors with ifup
10:28<raph_ael>no errors in log
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10:59<dragon>hello frnd
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11:01<petn-randall>raph_ael: How does your setup in /etc/network/interfaces look like? You can enable debug output on ifup with -v.
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11:08<deavidsedice>something strange happened to me in my home computer... i upgraded to Debian Jessie, and now grub2 doesn't find Debian as an option in the menu! :-S but it detects the ubuntu here
11:08<deavidsedice>also, from the ubuntu, i ran update-grub and i can see it detected the Debian 8, but when i reboot, i can't find it on the menu
11:08<petn-randall>deavidsedice: Congrats on using pre-release software! You get to keep both parts.
11:08<deavidsedice>so i'm trapped inside ubuntu, haha
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11:09<petn-randall>deavidsedice: Jokes aside, there's a separate support channel for jessie: #debian-next
11:09<deavidsedice>i usually use debian-testing... even debian-sid sometimes; i'm an experienced user, but this never happened to me
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11:10*deavidsedice uses debian since 2005
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11:10<raph_ael>petn-randall: http://paste.lisp.org/display/145713 wheezy and jessie conf
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11:11<petn-randall>deavidsedice: It could have broken if you have grub configured in Ubuntu, too.
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11:11<petn-randall>deavidsedice: Is grub installed in both Ubuntu and Debian?
11:11<deavidsedice>yes
11:11<deavidsedice>i also tried to chroot to debian and reinstall grub from there
11:11<deavidsedice>3 times
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11:11<petn-randall>deavidsedice: Let's continue in #debian-next.
11:11<deavidsedice>always happens the same
11:11<deavidsedice>ok
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11:44<jwendell>hi folks. I'm using apt-cacher-ng as an apt proxy. Is there any way to disable the cache (on the apt-cacher-ng side) for a specific repository?
11:44<valdyn>deavidsedice: you have more than 1 harddisk and are mixing them up
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11:51<deavidsedice>i solved it, don't worry..... i didn't had a linux-image-* package installed on the partition, a upgrade removed it
11:51<deavidsedice>i had a serious package mix here
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11:58<Guest4743>peace! anybody from BR?
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12:29<danica>hello
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12:29<danica>I've installed debian wheezy (minimal netinstall) and lxde, can someone recommend a gui tool to choose audio settings as the default output the device?
12:30<polyphagia>pavucontrol
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12:31<danica>polyphagia, I'll check it out, thanks
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12:31<SamB_laptop>Hmm, various things keep telling me this:
12:31<SamB_laptop>p11-kit: invalid config filename, will be ignored in the future: /etc/pkcs11/modules/gnome-keyring-module
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12:53<alumnok>ghise
12:53<alumnok>ola
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13:01<jack9876>ciao
13:01<jack9876>!list
13:01<dpkg>jack9876: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
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13:07<danica>Hi! I've installed Wheezy Netinstall and LXDE, but my wireless isn't working.. lspci tells me my wireless card is a 02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05), and I also downloaded the ipw2200-bss.fw but I don't know how to install it
13:08<polyphagia>https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/firmware-ipw2x00/download danica
13:08<polyphagia>grab that and install it with sudo dpkg -i
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13:09<danica>thanks a lot!
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13:44<nonya>how do i find out what kernel my system is running
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13:45<mtn>nonya: uname -a
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13:47<nonya>thanks mtn
13:47<mtn>welcome
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13:48<jack_3>hello
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13:49<jack_3>I'm running debian wheezy, I installed kvm, and I'm running an other debian wheezy as guest ok kvm
13:49<jack_3>but the audio does not work on the guest
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13:52<jack_3>the guest is a very minimal installation + task-lxde-desktop, I think this is sufficient for the audio to work
13:53<jack_3>on the host I'm running only a minimal wm, and installing pulseaudio was ennough to make the audio work
13:54<jack_3>could anyone help me?
13:55<jack_3>I don't even know how to do some debuging to see where could be the problem...
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14:00<musca>jack_3: which parameters do you use to start your vm?
14:01<jack_3>I start it from virtual-manager
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14:01<jack_3>I don't actually know
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14:12<rodri166>hol
14:12<rodri166>AS
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14:57<ryouma>i have pdfs of letters, which are presumably scans as pdftotext does not produce text. they take up at least 1-2 megabytes. gzip does not compress them. is there anything in debian that will reduce the resolution yet keep them as legible?
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15:04<nkuttler>ryouma: you could try to ocr them
15:05<ryouma>nkuttler: good idea. i'd still like to save the reduced-size originals though if possible
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15:15<iloveyouartanis>so i cant log into root account outside of a terminal?
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15:28<astings>why i can't to execute a program that i make in C?
15:28<astings>bash says "denied"
15:29<astings>how to solve this problem?
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15:30<SamB_laptop>astings: what does "ls -l executable-file" say?
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15:31<astings>not
15:31<astings>gcc -o
15:31<astings>but bash says denied
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15:31<mgv>astings: maybe chmod +x executable-file will help
15:31<mgv>but show us a ls -l file
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15:32<SamB_laptop>astings: you have to run it before it will tell you anything
15:32<astings>i save a file.c
15:33<astings>i use gedit
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15:35<astings>when I compile was on gcc bash says denied if i'm logged as root user
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15:37<seb_>hi all
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15:59<seb__>hi all, I'm looking for some help regarding the installation of the drivers for my NVidia NVS 4200M (Lenovo T420). Any idea which proprietary drivers are suited for this GPU?
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16:00<iloveyouartanis>wow after i installed nvidia drivers the interface is awesome
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16:01<babilen>seb__: Take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
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16:02<iloveyouartanis>someone else was doing nvidia drivers? ha i didnt realize
16:03<iloveyouartanis>it looks SO MUCH BETTER definately do it
16:05<seb__>I had some other pcs with nvidia or nouveau in the past. But the last laptop I bought has an intel chipset + an Nvidia GPU... it seems harder to configure than I initially thought
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16:09<babilen>seb__: Ah, yes. You unfortunately bought Optimus hardware which is, well, a pita. Familiarise yourself with https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
16:09<babilen>(note that the "normal" nvidia instructions do not apply in that case)
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16:42<guardian>hello, I'm building a Jessie Vagrant base box. Vagrant advises to use "UseDNS no" in sshd_config. I also found this page https://www.linux-tips.org/article/92/disabling-reverse-dns-lookups-in-ssh that talks about -u0 option of sshd. Do you think it's worth launching sshd with -u0?
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17:53<bitlan_>i have a problem with grub.. I was installed debian netinstall no on HDD only on pendrive, installation was finished successfully but when machine was rebooted, i have grub rescue
17:55<bitlan_>eeror: out of disk
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18:34<SANDMANN>hello i need help geting my ftp up so i can save my files befor i shut down my sever
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18:35<SANDMANN>hello
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18:36<SANDMANN>i need ftp help
18:37<theocrite>SANDMANN: ask your question.
18:37<SANDMANN>i need help getting my ftp sever up so that i can find out where my old admin put files that i need to save
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18:37<devil>that is not a question
18:38<SANDMANN>ok how to you set up a ftp file sever?
18:39-!-canaima [~canaima@186-95-176-207.genericrev.cantv.net] has joined #debian
18:39<SANDMANN>and or how do you download all the files off the sever?
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18:40<devil>you need to be specific, read first, what software you want to use, install it, if you run into problems, ask specificaly
18:42<SANDMANN>i have no idea what i am doing with linux that is why i had a admin that did but he is gone so unless someone can help me save the files im lost
18:42<dondelelcaro>SANDMANN: if you can ssh or scp, you don't need to set up an ftp server.
18:42<dondelelcaro>SANDMANN: just tar up the files you want, and copy them off using scp.
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18:44<dondelelcaro>SANDMANN: please don't privmsg me; this is #debian, not #ubuntu. If you need someone to walk you through it, there are consultants in debian.org/consultants
18:44<SANDMANN>how would i do that
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18:45<devil>he wanted spoon feeding
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18:48<abrotman>old admin? He's the new admin?
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18:49<devil>sound like he wont be
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18:55<astings_>pulse audio
18:55<astings_>error
18:55<astings_>:C
18:56<retrospectacus>astings_: do you need assistance
18:57<abrotman>!es
18:57<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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18:59<rageo>sorry for my english. Anyone know How Can I Put It to usb Ports on reading mode only?
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19:17<awal>rageo: probably you mean storage devices (usb...) no usb ports ?
19:18<zakh>Periodically, something happens to my machine and I can't suspend or hibernate, and this is always accompanied by an inability to play video (crashes in mpv and black screen in vlc). Any idea/suggestions for a fix? Info: Debian ver. 3.2.65-1+de7u1 i686; Kernel: 3.2.0-5-686-pae; PC Model: Thinkpad T420
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19:20<awal>you can put the usb contents or the whole usb drive in read mode only, but the usb port...I think you wrong. usb port only transfer data from usb devices, rageo
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19:22<awal>zakh: your DE/WM?
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19:23<zakh>XFCE
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19:25<awal>how you suspend/hibernate your machine?
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19:36<zakh>pm-utils
19:36<zakh>I tried that way and using the XFCE tools
19:37<zakh>with pm-utils it just returns back to desktop; with XFCE tools it goes to lock screen
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19:51<awal>zakh: i have a thikpad t61 laptop and had similar issues. with backports, sid/testing kernels my issue has been solved.
19:52<zakh>yeah, I was thinking about changing the kernel. Thanks
19:52<awal>you may consider looking at the kernel in backports
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19:53<awal>it's your choice; kernel is an important component in your machine, so consider that wisely
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19:55<zakh>OK, will do.
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22:28<zakh>awal: where on Debian website (or elsewhere) can I read about the differences in kernels?
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22:30<somiaj>zakh: what are you looking for, debian really doesn't provide that different of kernels, unless you need specific arch type
22:31<zakh>I want to install a sid/testing or backports kernel. But I don't know where to get them or how to differentiate.
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22:33<somiaj>zakh: if you are running debin wheezy you do not want to install packages form sid/testing, but backports sure
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22:34<somiaj>backports you install just like any other package. Really the only difference is the kernel version and debian provides fairly recent (from debian) kernels from backports
22:34<Apollo>why do you want said kernels
22:34<somiaj>,kernels
22:34<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.18.0-trunk-686-pae (3.18.6-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt4-3); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6)
22:34<somiaj>you should see you can get 3.16 from wheezy-backports but you should think about Apollo question, why do you need a newer kernrel.
22:34<somiaj>!tell zakh about wheezy-backports
22:35<zakh>well i posted my question above. Do you want me to repost? I want to change kernels to see if it'll fix my issue.
22:35<zakh>it was a few hours ago. don't know if it's in your log
22:36<somiaj>sure repost your actual issue, we'll see if a kernel could possibly help
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22:37<zakh>Periodically, something happens to my machine and I can't suspend or hibernate, and this is always accompanied by an inability to play video (crashes in mpv and black screen in vlc). Any idea/suggestions for a fix? Info: Debian ver. 3.2.65-1+de7u1 i686; Kernel: 3.2.0-5-686-pae; PC Model: Thinkpad T420
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22:38<somiaj>zakh: by somethign I would guess a 'suspend' you suspend your machine then at a later time your video drivers and other things (inclding supsuend) no longer work?
22:38<somiaj>a new kernel might (I don't know what hardware you are using) fix that, but it could be you need to coax your video drivers and what not to not go defunt after a suspend/resume.
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22:39<zakh>No, the suspend doesn't prompt it. It's just during regular use. Like one hour I was watching video and then the next hour I couldn't watch anything and couldn't hibernate or suspend.
22:40<zakh>But I will try the kernel upgrade. Thanks somiaj
22:40<somiaj>anyways to install a new kernel, follow that factoid I sent you to add wheezy-backports to your sources.list then install the kernel. You can either 1) apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-686-pae, or y ou can 'apt-cache search linux-image-3.16' and install the correct kernel with the same command I gave to you.
22:40<somiaj>the different between the two methods if you want to use the meta package from backports or not
22:41<somiaj>zakh: well my guess is a new kernel will have a 'slight' chance of able to fix that. But you may have some other issue that needs to be sorted out.
22:41<somiaj>but a new kernel wont' hurt anything, so give it a whirl
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22:43<zakh>ok I will. I got some other advice suggested I might check if I have failing memory or lack of swap or /tmp space from getting big session error files.
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23:26<Administrator_>hello erverone?
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