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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-02-17

---Logopened Tue Feb 17 00:00:17 2015
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00:07<inmortal>hola?
00:07<inmortal>inmortal
00:07<inmortal>soy un virus
00:07<inmortal>nunca muero
00:07<inmortal>-_-
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00:11<pi>nice
00:11<pi>anyone from fremont ?
00:11<pi>hahaha
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01:11<ddvip>hi!
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03:07<tso>\list
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03:08<tso>help
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03:08<tso>list
03:09<tso>LIST
03:09<tso>\LIST
03:09<tso>HELP
03:10<jm_>!ask
03:10<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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03:13<tso>HATTEER*
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03:14<tso>list command in xchat?
03:14<jm_>try http://xchat.org/faq/ http://xchatdata.net/Using/FAQ, or ask in #xchat on irc.freenode.net
03:14<tso>ok
03:16<tso>sorry guys forgot people could see fail commands
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04:28<Iridos>/o\
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05:29<Jobbe>Damn
05:29<Jobbe>i just did a dist upgrade and system started to segfault
05:30<Jobbe>[ 1012.079302] xfce4-session[8376]: segfault at ffffffff00000000 ip 00007fd81b21c6b5 sp 00007fffce1fd1e0 error 5 in libglib-2.0.so.0.4200.1[7fd81b1b6000+10c000]
05:30<Jobbe>:D
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05:31<Jobbe>Should probably say i tried to get the right version of a package and it was in jessie hehe so i did this to myself lol
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06:06<SynrGy>Jobbe: so you mean you partially upgraded?
06:06<SynrGy>that's never a good idea
06:06<SynrGy>or did you fully upgrade to jessie? let's see your 'apt-cache policy' and put it at paste.debian.net
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06:09<jm_>looking at 3.16 bpo kernel I see CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=y and the same for LADDER/MENU governors, yet looking at available governors only two modular ones are listed (powersave and performance, which is also built-in) - does anyone else also see this?
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06:10<jm_>hmm this might be due to my CPU and the fact it uses cpuidle
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06:43<rfreeman>is there open source voice+audio program in debian, that does not suck?
06:43<rfreeman>pidgin hangs even on audio chat, and doesn't even see web camera
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06:43<rfreeman>mplayer does see the camera
06:44<ixi>rfreeman you mean sort of like skype?
06:44<rfreeman>ixi: yeah
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06:45<bbelo>hello
06:45<ixi>rfreeman I don't know if any of them work but I recommend to try jitsi and ekiga, in that order
06:46<jm_>there's also webrtc
06:46<ixi>also you might need a new kernel for webcamera stuff
06:46<rfreeman>ixi: did you tested ekiga? video and audio?
06:46<ixi>no rfreeman I don't know if any of it works
06:46<ixi>I just know it exists
06:46<rfreeman>ixi: why new kernel, if the camera works in mplayer
06:47<bbelo>Seeking support, I tried to install debian on my usb thumb drive with encrypted LVM. After messing with fstab and crypttab in etc I get this kernel panic http://imgur.com/T0TcYI5 Im fairly noobish btw :(
06:47<ixi>rfreeman also the new version of firefox (iceweasel) has builtin browser-to-browser video and audio calling
06:47<ixi>it works, tested
06:47<ixi>both audio and video
06:47<rfreeman>ixi: huh? url? how is that called
06:47<ixi>https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/hello/
06:47<ixi>its called 'firefox hello'
06:51<rfreeman>:&
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06:55<rfreeman>ixi: I don't have this icon in firefox, do you have it/
06:56<rfreeman>ixi: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/where-firefox-hello-button#firefox:linux:fx31 no such icon to be added in debian 7 iceweasel
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06:56<ixi>rfreeman I do
06:56<emj___>not everyone has it atm
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06:57<rfreeman>It's sad open source failed to even catch up to skype all this years
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06:57<ixi>there is a modification that you can do to about:config to enable it
06:57<ixi>I don't remember which one but it exists
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06:58<Jobbe>[12:06:04] < SynrGy> | Jobbe: so you mean you partially upgraded?
06:58<emj___>Skype is not that easy to solve. There have been lots of failed skype-a-likes before skype.
06:58<Jobbe>i fully upgraded
06:58<Jobbe>i tried to install spotify and it needed a newer library
06:59<rfreeman>emj___: what would be not easy about it, it's no rocket science
06:59<Jobbe>so what i did was add the jessie repo, install the library
06:59<Jobbe>then i started spotify and ran the apt-get upgrade in the background
06:59<ixi>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tox_(software)
06:59<Jobbe>then the dist upgrade after
06:59<ixi>I beleive this will be the next gen voip thing
06:59<ixi>at least for people with a clue
07:00<Jobbe>SynrGy: but then it started to segfault, so i thought i would remove the library, bad idea uninstalled most of my system, i managed to stop it in time so i could run elinks and fetch a jessie netinst and backup my files and then i did a clean install
07:00<Jobbe>I'm not back to where i left
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07:03<bbelo>hello, has anyone seen theese kernel errors http://imgur.com/T0TcYI5 ? I have messed with the fstab and crypttab. Could that be realted? Any suggestion to fix it? Thanks
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07:03<ixi>bbelo attempt a reinstall
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07:04<Apollo>bbelo: looks like you fucked with your initramfs
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08:21<premoboss>does it existe a command that tell me if on a lan is active a dhcp server with all working parameters?
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08:22<jm_>possibly dhcp-probe
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11:00<viccuad>Guys, does anybody know a service ala "paste.debian.net", but that makes a streaming of the terminal? thanks in advance
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11:01<centrx>a streaming of the terminal?
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11:03<viccuad>yes. not as fully featured as ssh, and just in one way, just to show problems and debug things on irc
11:05<centrx>Like a shell account?
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11:07<treaki>moin
11:07<treaki>or hi
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11:07<treaki>i am using debian testing
11:08<treaki>now ive installed a new kernel
11:08<centrx>fascinating
11:08<treaki>but i would like to continue using my old one for now but not uninstalling the new one
11:08<treaki>how can i set the default kernel to use
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11:09<treaki>after that it will be sure update-grub but how to set the default kernel
11:09<treaki>i tryed update-alternatives but that didnt worked...
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11:10<centrx>treaki, Looks like the command is 'grub-set-default'
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11:12<treaki>i am still using the feature to save the last used system for the purpose of multi boot
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11:13<treaki>but after some time there arent all kernel listed under the main menu
11:13<treaki>ive got such an sub menu named advanced options in grub
11:13<treaki>for my debian
11:14<treaki>and i would like to swap the one outside that advanced options sub menu with that old kernel version inside the advancd options sub menu...
11:15<treaki>grrr, now my pulseaudio is acting wiered...
11:15<treaki>after plaing some time: [ao/pulse] pa_stream_update_timing_info() failed: Connection terminated
11:15<treaki>its sometimes anoying to use debian testing...
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11:18<treaki>why the kernel isnt included into update-alternatives like everything else??
11:18<ixi>um
11:19<ixi>there is grub menu where you can select which kernel to boot at boot time?
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11:24<treaki>yes but i would like to have another kernel to at the top of the list
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11:29<treaki>$ pulseaudio
11:29<treaki>Killed
11:29<treaki>[ao/pulse] pa_stream_update_timing_info() failed: Connection terminated
11:29<treaki>grrrr
11:29<fcrs>maybe create /etc/grub.d/09_whatever with the kernel you want, or change GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/defaults/grub
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11:29<treaki>how to find out what killed pulseaudio
11:29<treaki>??
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11:30<treaki>apt-get ...: pulseaudio is already the newest version.
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11:35<treaki>is there some tool that checks all installed packages against the repository
11:35<treaki>??
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11:35<treaki>i have tryed to install a very old driver that interacts with alsa and after that now ive got much problems...
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11:37<treaki>is there some way to disable pulseaudio for a moment to check if plain alsa is working?
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11:52<treaki>without pulse it is working
11:52<treaki>how to size down that problem???
11:53<treaki>(isolate)
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11:54<petn-randall>Moin treaki, when did pulseaudio work the last time, and what did you do in the mean time?
11:55<treaki>yesterday, tryed to install a modem driver
11:55<treaki>http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/modemident.php
11:55<petn-randall>And you're running pure testing?
11:56<treaki>that stuff, tryed a lot of things with it but dont got it to work, removed it but now pulseaudio is producing disturbed audio and crashing
11:56<treaki>i am running a system made once by debbootstrap, its somehow old and at the present on testing but not up to date
11:57<petn-randall>treaki: I think the first step is to bring it up to date. No point in debugging a thing that might already been fixed.
11:57<treaki>ive installed it using grml install, that installed unfortunately sid, after that i switched to testing. now i am quite sure every package is testing after it cached up with sid
11:58<treaki>ok, thats a good idea, but at present i dont have a stable and internet connection...
11:59<treaki>and it has worked before, i am still using the same kernel and the same pulseaudio but now i get things like disturbed audio and crashing pulseaudio
11:59<treaki>is there a way to isolate that problem
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12:00<treaki>when running pulse in foreground/terminal emulator it tells "Killed"
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12:00<treaki>that is as far as i know the message of bash that it got killed, how to find out what is killing it
12:00<treaki>nothing relevant in dmesg...
12:01<treaki>is there a tool that displays all relevant inter process communication so i can find out what is killing it??
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12:02<petn-randall>treaki: Probably segfaulting. Check /var/log/kern.log.
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12:04<treaki>there is written a lot about pulse, mom...
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12:10<treaki>petn-randall, : https://paste.debian.net/hidden/884099a2/
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12:11<treaki>this "Sample rates too different, not adjusting " isnt present on old logfiles
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12:12<treaki>is what could be the reason for this problem???
12:12<treaki>-is-
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12:15<treaki>at least the wood-fired stove now is working and it is getting warm...
12:15<treaki>and the sound is working without pulseaudio...
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12:16<treaki>is there a way to check the installed files against the deb-packages in /var/cache/apt/archives ???
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12:20<retrospectacus>debsums
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12:24<treaki>retrospectacus, thanks ill try that
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12:32<treaki>is debsums also listing all files existing in system folders without corresponding debian package??
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12:57<j2>Can anyone tutor me in how to manage opening and closing ports in Wheezy?
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12:59<retrospectacus>j2: what do you want to do?
13:00<j2>I'm just trying to open port 3306 for MySQL and a few other ones for Teamspeak servers etc.
13:01<retrospectacus>you don't have to do anything. If the service is configured to listen on the IP/port, then it is "open".
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13:01<retrospectacus>note that mysql only listens on localhost by default, does not accept remote connections
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13:02<j2>So the problem isn't that the port is closed, but that I need to edit the mysql config?
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13:02<retrospectacus>right. it's something in my.cnf, the comments in the file should tell you exactly what to do
13:03<retrospectacus>j2: you can test using telnet from localhost vs. remote host
13:03<retrospectacus>j2: or "netstat -plant" output
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13:04<devrikx>I have a newbie IRC question -> when the message as I see it is red, my nick prefixing the message....is that a private message? Or is that a notice?
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13:05<mtn>devrikx: it is a highlight, so you know you have been spoken to
13:05<mtn>devrikx: a private message would be in a new window/tab
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13:05<devrikx>ok, is that simply because you put devrikx in the message
13:06<mtn>devrikx: yup
13:06<devrikx>tn: thanks
13:06<retrospectacus>at the beginning, devrikx
13:06<j2>Okay. Thank you so much, I'll go look over that config. I'm new to VPSs and networking. Learning on my own pace (very slowly). I am confused however, on "netstat -plant" can you give just a layman's term of what the difference is between :::*, 0.0.0.0:*, and 127.0.0.1:22. All local addresses?
13:06<retrospectacus>it is a feature of your IRC client though, not IRC in general
13:07<devrikx>gotcha, ok thank you for that.
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13:07<devrikx>both of you :)
13:07<retrospectacus>j2: ::: is IPV6 for 0.0.0.0, which is "all IPs". 127.0.0.1 is localhost (loopback)
13:07<nappy>why can i use my root accounts inmany cases to run some app on kali
13:08<retrospectacus>nappy: why not? Also, this is not Kali support.
13:08<j2>That makes sense. Last but not least, what is named?
13:09<j2>Sorry, named as in the service/process.
13:09<retrospectacus>j2: that is the bind9 DNS service
13:09<j2>This might be a stupid question, I know what DNS is but do I need this DNS service on my server?
13:09<retrospectacus>j2: only if you need it ;)
13:09<devrikx>you do if you expect it to have authority over the location of other servers
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13:10<j2>Okay great, so I do not need it at all. That's really the only other process accepting connections.
13:11<j2>Thank you so much guys.
13:12<retrospectacus>any time
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13:13<j2>Okay so the bind-address on mysql, should be set to 0.0.0.0 if I want to allow all connections instead of 127.0.0.1 which only allows local connections?
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13:13<blast007>are you wanting to allow other systems to directly communicate with your MySQL server?
13:14<j2>It's really just going to be me, but I move around a lot (I'm at college, my house, library, etc), so there will be different IPs.
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13:14<blast007>but is it only going to be accessed from that local machine?
13:15<retrospectacus>j2: that is correct, but yes it is not a great idea to open mysql to the Internet
13:15<j2>blast007: I don't quite understand. The mysql is on a vps, and the only way I have to access it is through ssh right now.
13:16<retrospectacus>ssh is all you need
13:16<retrospectacus>what are you planning to do with mysql?
13:17<j2>I'm using node.js and a package to log users in to a game (counter-strike). The database will be there to store users information locally, and the only reason I need to access it on a different computer will be to add/remove client information
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13:18<j2>So the database itself will not be accessed by any other computer/php/etc except for my own and itself.
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13:18<retrospectacus>I would just log into the vps by SSH and use the mysql client there
13:19<j2>The CLI mysql client?
13:19<retrospectacus>yeah
13:20<j2>Well I suppose I could just get used to using CLi.
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13:20<retrospectacus>what else is there?
13:20<j2>Honestly I've always used HeidiSQL, and that's why I was trying to do this whole thing
13:20<retrospectacus>never heard of it...
13:20<j2>http://www.heidisql.com/
13:21<retrospectacus>I'm good thanks :) but anyways, your choice
13:21<blast007>j2: MySQL Workbench can support tunneling your MySQL connection over SSH. I'd recommend doing something like that instead of opening it to the public.
13:21<j2>Oh no I just linked it so you could see what it was.
13:21<retrospectacus>Internet-visible Mysql can be OK if it is secured (good passwords for all users)
13:22<blast007>low hanging fruit in the event of a vulnerability in the wild though..
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13:23<retrospectacus>it looks like Heidi also supports mysql over SSH. use that
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13:24<j2>"Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 0"
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13:25<blast007>j2: got some context for that error?
13:25<j2>People suggest that it is because the mysql server is cutting off connections from the outside.
13:25<j2>Even though, I'm obviously connected through PuTTY on port 22
13:25<blast007>what did you try doing that generated that error?
13:26<j2>Pressing "open" after I entered hostname, user, pass, etc
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13:26<j2>It's an error when it tries to first connect.
13:26<blast007>did you configure it to use an SSH tunnel?
13:27<j2>Yes?
13:27<j2>Was I not supposed to?
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13:27<blast007>and did you tell it to use 127.0.0.1 to connect to the MySQL server?
13:28<j2>No, I used the servers ip.
13:28<j2>Ah, ah, I got it
13:29<j2>So I figured SSH tunnel meant I needed to change the port to 22, but I only needed to connect to port 22 on the SSH tunnel. On the MySQL connection tab, I just left it 3306 which connected.
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13:29<j2>Which makes sense because it uses the SSH tunnel on port 22, and once inside as a local connection through ssh it connects to 3306 which is allowed since it is local.
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13:30<blast007>yup :)
13:30<ceibal>hi
13:30<ceibal>hola
13:30<blast007>hello ceibal. Do you have a Debian support question?
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13:31<j2>See I promise I'm not stupid I've just NEVER used linux or anything. So, with windows I can set up a server, make it secure, etc, because I know how to navigate around windows and what to search if I do have an error. On this debian stuff I don't even know what to search to solve my error which is confusing.
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13:31<blast007>j2: yep, there's a bit of a learning curve, and more so with a remote system :)
13:32<valdyn>j2: it will be way easier than windows after that learning curve
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13:33<j2>That's why I want to learn it. From what I've seen, windows is easy to learn, but extremely stiff. Linux-based systems are extremely flexible but a lot harder to learn.
13:34<j2>I'm only 19 though, and in college for Computer Science. So, I'll learn all of this stuff eventually, haha.
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13:34<valdyn>j2: linux has expressive error messages - windows has bullshit error messages, mostly
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13:34<rainfyre>j2: stick with it! it's worth it!
13:35<rainfyre>j2: you're finally going to get to actually use your computer :)
13:35<j2>Haha yes, I will definitely be sticking with this until the end. I've just put it off for so long.
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13:41<KingOfDos>ghe. installed debian jessie, seems my iwlwifi problem is gone. same kernel version. hmm :]
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13:41<KingOfDos>but now it's unable to detect my screen, on a decent way. 1024x768 instead of 3200x1800
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13:43<Maulkin>KingOfDos: Hrm. What graphics card do you have?
13:43<KingOfDos>iwlwifi on wheezy with kernel 3.16 was only getting 1~2mbit. now i'm running at 48~52mbit. so far no reconnects (but those happen once a 30~60 minutes, for ~5 minutes constantly)
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13:45<KingOfDos>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics [8086:161e] (rev 08)
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13:45<towo`>no new for stable
13:45<KingOfDos>^^ worked fine at 3200x1800 on wheezy :)
13:45<KingOfDos>on-default
13:45<towo`>you use jessie?
13:45<KingOfDos>ack
13:46<towo`>provide /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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13:49<KingOfDos>http://files.kingofdos.com/zooi/ux305/Xorg.0.log
13:50<towo`>[ 10.070] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/terminal5--vg-root ro nomodeset
13:50<towo`>this will never work
13:50<KingOfDos>well, it did on wheezy ;]
13:50<towo`>intel needs KMA, so nomodeset is the culprint
13:50<KingOfDos>it isn't booting/displaying anything without that
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13:50<KingOfDos>no tty login, nothing
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13:51<towo`>KingOfDos, again, intel ddx does not work without KMS
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13:51<KingOfDos>well fine, then i've got another issue.
13:52<KingOfDos>i'm getting a blank screen without nomodeset ;]
13:52<KingOfDos>on wheezy and jessie
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14:09<nappy>how possible is it to create
14:10<towo`>what?
14:10<centrx>create ab nihilo?
14:10<centrx>Some say possible, others say impossible
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14:16<anonymous_>hello
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14:23<KingOfDos>i'm actually able to login at my blanked tty, and do a 'startx'. i'm seeing a bit of text/resolution-switches, blank screen again when x11/i3wm is started.
14:23<KingOfDos>it's booting with the correct resolution before it's blanked. that is, 3200x1800
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14:23<KingOfDos>http://files.kingofdos.com/zooi/ux305/Xorg.0.log_without_nomodeset and http://files.kingofdos.com/zooi/ux305/Xorg.0.log_without_xorgconf
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14:24<KingOfDos>the xorg.conf was generated via Xorg --configure. just something I had to try.
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14:27<paolorotolo>y
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14:58<viccuad>check this out: http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/02/17/first-fully-sandboxed-linux-desktop-app/
14:58<retrospectacus>wrong channel
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14:59<misskay>hi
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15:52<andrew>(new to this irc thing, and I'm not the "real" andrew...) Hello I have a dell laptop with intel graphics (gma hd) and I wondered if I could upgrade open gl past 1.4?
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15:52<andrew>And if so how?
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16:01<valdyn>andrew: you're talking about the glx version, not the opengl verion
16:01<andrew>I guess?
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16:02<andrew>Valdyn yeah I guess that is the glx version string
16:02<valdyn>andrew: you dont need to upgrade that
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16:02<valdyn>andrew: and you cant I think
16:03<valdyn>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLX
16:03<retrospectacus>what made you decide that you wanted to?
16:04<andrew>Trying to go through an opengl tutorial and it won't open the context -> 1.4 seems like a low opengl version # -> upgrade opengl
16:04<valdyn>andrew: its not an opengl version, its a glx version
16:05<valdyn>andrew: its not possible to just use opengl, you need a drawable surface first (or whatever that api calls it), glx just does that, wingl is probably what does that on windows
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16:06<andrew>Cool, apparently I have opengl 2.1.
16:06<valdyn>andrew: probably, i dont know
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16:06<andrew>I am using a tutorial so I would assume that is all taken care of, I am just working on getting it to run
16:07<andrew>thanks for pointing me out of at least one wrong direction.
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16:45<rfreeman>gnash (in debian7) makes me sad
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16:46<retrospectacus>dpkg: comfort rfreeman
16:46<dpkg>There, there, rfreeman. It's OK. I'm here for you.
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16:47<rfreeman>maybe with html5 in youtube we can let the flash down history drain soon.
16:47*rfreeman flush && flush ; to be sure
16:49<rfreeman>how to totally disable radeon audio output?
16:49<pangolinrollin>http://xkcd.com/619/
16:49<pangolinrollin>nope
16:49<rfreeman>radeon vga card HDMI audio output. some applications have problem with using normal audio card as primary output it seems
16:50<pangolinrollin>flash is never going to die! ^ read the comic lol
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16:51<rfreeman>well I try to help someone setup a debian 7 as skype box
16:51<rfreeman>and it fails miserably
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16:52<rfreeman>(skype + youtube box)
16:52<rfreeman>sound is not working in firefox/html5, nor in skype, nor in aplay /dev/urandom . It works in Phonon the KDE sound setup thing
16:53<rfreeman>not working = no quiet
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16:53<rfreeman>not working = is quiet. How to fix that? In alsamixer rised all volumes on both the (not connected to speakers) HDMI, and on internal audio
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16:54<pangolinrollin>is default audio set right? i've had to switch mine from hdmi to whatever
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16:55<firedown>yolo
16:55<firedown>swag
16:55<firedown>il y a qu elle q un
16:55<firedown>il y a qu elle qu un
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16:56<rfreeman>pangolinrollin: that is fucking annoying isn't it
16:56<retrospectacus>quoi
16:56<rfreeman>it's small things like that that piss off users :{
16:56<pangolinrollin>yepp but if you set as default i have no problems.. just change if you switch to hdmi
16:57<pangolinrollin>autodetect isn't that big of a deal to me
16:57<rfreeman>pangolinrollin: I disabled it in Phonon, but it seems many programs do not use KDE's (or what ever it is) setting od default card and still default to HDMI anyway. Lack of standards for desktop and fragmentation :{
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16:57<pangolinrollin>not familiar with Phono.. i've just used system default
16:58<rfreeman>pangolinrollin: where you configured it? system default is HDMI it seems
16:58<pangolinrollin>hmm don't know on this system.. its kde / kmix for audio
16:59<pangolinrollin>not sure how my other gnome setup is
17:01<devrikx>not sure if its helpful -> on my gnome setup, in aggregate menu I have to click settings and go into sound settings and select proper device to use my hdmi
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17:01<devrikx>thats pulseaudio though
17:02*rfreeman blacklists the shit out of that annoying drivers
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17:02<AberHatschi>and no problem with sound in html5 on iceweasle
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17:04<devrikx>AberHatschi: not sure if you are asking me, but if so yes no issues (I watch alot of anime online and have had to switch back and forth between iceweasle and chrome when chrome has flashplayer issues)
17:04<devrikx>if that wasn't helpful in any way - my bad :P good luck though
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17:06<AberHatschi>i mean i have the same desktop gnome and no problems to play musik or video with iceweasle i have no flash installed
17:06<rfreeman>we're at verge of just buying an android tablet instead
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17:08<jla>I'm having trouble with lxc auto start in 7.0/wheezy. My containers are starting like this: `lxc-start -n lxc -f /etc/lxc/containername.conf` where -n lxc should be -n containername or -n containername.conf
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17:10<Brigo>,v lxc
17:10<judd>Package: lxc on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.2-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.0~rc1-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.0~rc1-8+deb7u2; sid: 1:1.0.6-6; jessie: 1:1.0.6-6; experimental: 1:1.0.7-1
17:10<Brigo>jla, are you using backports?
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17:12<rfreeman>in desktop, how to tell the system what is preferred resolution? (but still it should autodetect/use others if plugged to other monitor where given resolution is not possible)
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17:12<jla>Brigo: No, not that I see in sources. wheezy main, then saltstack. I don't know if I've messed something up but I think it's not working right since upgrading from Deb 6. Here is what it's doing in init.d/lxc: http://paste.debian.net/150939/
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17:13<Brigo>jla, lxc in deb6?
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17:14<luckyuser>hello
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17:15<Brigo>jla, lxc can autostart containers itself
17:16<jla>Brigo: I believe so, yes. I was using lxc when the LXC host was running Debian 6/squeeze
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17:17<jla>back then the init relied on /etc/defaults/lxc listing the container names. This appears to have changed. Init does that code snippet to give the name from /etc/lxc/auto/*
17:17<retrospectacus>rfreeman: in what desktop?
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17:17<rfreeman>retrospectacus: best - in all desktops and as well in user manager (gdm/kdm/..)
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17:19<peter1138>jla, is your /etc/lxc a symlink?
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17:19<jla>no, it's a normal directory. /etc/lxc/auto/* are symlinks but not named right according to the README.Debian
17:20<jla>doesn't matter, it's parsing is wrong, it returns the directory name lxc and not the file name
17:20<peter1138>Hmm. ok.
17:20<peter1138>But it works for me, heh.
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17:20<jla>interesting
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17:21<jla>Here are my directories: http://paste.debian.net/150947/
17:21<rfreeman>help help
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17:22<Brigo>peter1138, are you using wheezy?
17:23<rfreeman>my luser started vim /etc/modprobe.d/ (note the vim) and rampages havoc through the system
17:23<peter1138>Yeah
17:23<jla>peter1138: when you say it works for you, do you mean the process in general, or that sample for loop shell script?
17:23<peter1138>The layout is different since squeeze.
17:23<peter1138>i have /var/lib/lxc/container/config
17:23<peter1138>and /var/lib/lxc/container/rootfs
17:23<peter1138>/etc/lxc/auto/container symlinks to /var/lib/lxc/container/config
17:24<retrospectacus>rfreeman: IME it "just works" with no particular setting. Universally you can use xrandr to set resolution
17:24<Brigo>peter1138, are you using backport, what i want to know is if you are using the same version than jla
17:24<peter1138>readlink /etc/lxc/auto/container points to /var/lib/lxc/container/config
17:24<jla>lxc version: 0.8.0-rc1
17:24<peter1138>dirname /var/lib/lxc/container/config points to /var/lib/lxc/container
17:24<peter1138>basename /var/lib/lxc/conainer points to container
17:24<jla>peter1138: My /var/lib/lxc/container/config points to /etc/lxc/container.conf
17:25<peter1138>becuase your configs are in /etc/lxc, that doesn't work
17:25<jla>ah, got it
17:26<peter1138>when i first set it up with squeeze, i had it likeyou
17:26<peter1138>with /var/lib/lxc/container being the rootfs
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17:26<peter1138>and /etc/lxc/container.conf being the config
17:26<peter1138>(or may have been /lxc instead of /var/lib/lxc)
17:26<jla>Not too keen on this upgrade. Not so smooth & I like my config files being in /etc :(
17:26<jla>Brigo: What were you saying about lxc handling autostart on it's own?
17:26<peter1138>then when i set up fresh containers in wheezy i saw it was in /var/lib/lxc/container/config & rootfs
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17:27<peter1138>lxc doesn't handle autostart on it's own, it's only that init script that does it
17:27<peter1138>lxc is just a program :)
17:27<Brigo>jla, because i did not understand your question, sorry for the noise :)
17:27<jla>conf files in /var seems broken
17:28<peter1138>possibly, but that's how it makes it
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17:28<peter1138>/etc/lxc/container/config would also work, i guess
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17:28<peter1138>i might say that the script is broken :)
17:29<Brigo>peter1138, you can say lxc is just a program and may be you are right, or you can say lxc is a debian package with a init script which can manage the launching of the containers on boot :)
17:29<jla>that's what the README.Debian shows, but they (incorrectly) emphasize the name in /etc/lxc/auto and not the container directory name in /etc/lxc/containername/conf
17:29<peter1138>it could get the container name from lxc.utsname (assuming it is always the same)
17:29<peter1138>Brigo, true
17:30<Brigo>jla, lxc are inmature, the documentation too :)
17:30<peter1138>jla, bug! :D
17:30<jla>I wish it would use lxc.utsname or something. So on reboot my containes borked because they all wanted to be lxc, and then when I manually restarted the lxc one (not shown in lxc-ls or lxc-list) competes with the manually started one, kicking the other off the use of the IP
17:30<jla>will do
17:30<Brigo>i am using jessie so i can test it by myself, but do you have lxc-autostart command?
17:30<peter1138>yeah, the name in /etc/lxc/auto doesn't matter at all
17:31<jla>I do not have lxc-autostart
17:31<peter1138>Brigo, not in wheezy
17:31<rfreeman>retrospectacus: yeah but it's a nerdy solution, not something for home user/luser
17:31<Brigo>a good solution :)
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17:32<rfreeman>ok, how to completely kill radeon hdmi audio, while keeping radenon build in audio card? they are same driver. I just need alsa, pulseaudio, etc to completely ignore hdmi (sub)card
17:32<peter1138>my stuff was originally vservers rather than lxc too :s
17:32<jla>peter1138: Brigo: thank you both, I believe that will help me sort this out
17:32<Brigo>jla, np and good luck :)
17:33<jla>I think it's buggy that lxc-ls or lxc-list doesn't show all three running containers, but ps | grep lxc-start pointed it out
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17:33<peter1138>jla, the symlink name matters for lxc-list
17:33<peter1138>lxc-list only works for me as root :(
17:34<jla>peter1138: it only works for me as root as well. I haven't looked at the code by my symlink name includes .conf but the list output doesnt
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17:34<jla>s/by/but
17:34<peter1138>basically /etc/lxc/auto/container must match the container name
17:35<peter1138>so "container.conf" probably confuses it
17:35<jla>I'll set it up that way since you and the readme say to, but it seems to be working
17:35<peter1138>if it doesn't match lxc-list won't flag it as auto
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17:35<peter1138>i doubt that actually affects anything thing
17:35<peter1138>*though
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17:35<jla>ah, yes, it is not doing that
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19:09<pangolinrollin>debhelper why not any more ops / halfops? :D
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19:09<pangolinrollin>^ bot? pshhaa
19:09<k-man>is it possible to get cut/paste working between a windows VMWare host and debian running as a guest?
19:10<k-man>using the open-vm-tools?
19:10<pangolinrollin>yes. enable shared clipboard
19:10<pangolinrollin>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vmware+enable+shared+keyboard
19:11<pangolinrollin>xD
19:11<k-man>pangolinrollin, i have been googleing - and i have enabled that, but it does not seem to work for me
19:11<retrospectacus>it works fine for me
19:11<k-man>retrospectacus, are you using the open-vm-tools?
19:12<pangolinrollin>if at first it does not work.. facepalm. sorry man i duno
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19:12<retrospectacus>yes. Including open-vm-tools-desktop
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19:14<retrospectacus>I've no idea if it is rquired. I don't recall doing anything re: "enable shared keyboard"
19:14<k-man>do you have to run a daemon to make it work?
19:14<retrospectacus>no, nothing special
19:16<k-man>also, does Autofit Guest work for you?
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19:16<retrospectacus>what is that? probably
19:17<k-man>where you can resize the vmware window, and the guest resolution resizes
19:17<retrospectacus>yes it's fine. multihead too.
19:18<retrospectacus>you do have to reboot the guest after installing open-vm-tools
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19:18<k-man>i have rebooted multiple times
19:19<retrospectacus>I'm using "Vmware player 6.0.3"
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19:19<retrospectacus>on windows 7. Guest is debian 7 with xfce4
19:19<k-man>O
19:20<k-man>I'm using vmware workstation 10.0.5 on win7 with a debian jessie guest
19:21<retrospectacus>!vmware support
19:21<dpkg>Support for VMware products is not offered here; please go to http://vmware.com/support/ or join #vmware on irc.freenode.net.
19:23<k-man>i think its a fairly gray area, but ok
19:24<retrospectacus>well it's not in debian so we can't really support it. I've told you all I can. I assume you paid actual money for "workstation" so you are entitled to the official support, I guess
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19:25<retrospectacus>and we all know paid support is better than this! hahahahaha
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19:32<treaki>ok, ive tryed some things and will now reboot hope that has helped...
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19:53<treaki>yey, after one day of annoying hassle it is working again!!
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19:55<treaki>thanks a lot to, centrx, petn-randall and all of you!!
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20:32<guilherme>hi, that is me again. Another doubt about mSata and ssd devices. Can I use it as a swap for instance? I read something about speed degrading over time, so I am concerning about use as a swap
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20:50<jla>is there an easy way to unmount all mountpoints under a given path?
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21:12<awal>Any user friendly graphical app for manage bluetooth, for use under xfce, openbox, fluxbox or any other WM?
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21:14<guilherme>I have a doubt about mSata and ssd devices. Can I use it as a swap for instance? I read something about speed degrading over time, so I am concerning about use as a swap
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23:22<awal>No one have a question? Does that mean that Debian is too good and every body is fine with, or Debian users prefer solve their problems by themselves? :)
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23:34<at0m>awal: lol - probably a lot of the latter before asking
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23:37<awal>at0m: :)
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23:39<Ferbas>buenas
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23:40<awal>Hi, Ferbas
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23:46<lasagn4>hi
23:46<lasagn4>can i make my swap file bigger or do i have to do a fresh install?
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23:57<awal>how many ram you have?
23:58<awal>ram & swap
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