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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-02-21

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02:11<justme>Hi, everyone. I have a fresh install of testing and I found my boot to be kind of slow, when compared to Ubuntu derivatives. I checked the BootProcessSpeedup page in Debian wiki, but it didn't help - stuff there is previous to systemd. Could you point me any resources to help me on that? Thanks a lot.
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02:12<valdyn>justme: jessie is very fast booting up on systemd, if you use an ssd
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02:13<valdyn>justme: which part is slow? any specific point where its stuck?
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02:18<justme>valdyn: I'm currently using a Sata II HDD. I can't identify any particular hang in the boot process. but the total time spent is a bit too much. I get a bit more than a minute to get to a usable desktop, while in ~40sec I get the same in Ubuntu. I checked systemd-analyse and the slowest units are windbind and nmbd... So I removed winbind and samba, and I got like ~1.5 sec quicker boot. Still a lot slower.
02:19<valdyn>justme: "systemd-analyze critical-chain"
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02:19<justme>valdyn: It surprised me that even after the login in gdm I have to wait ~15sec to Gnome to get usable... And then more 10 sec for wifi. :P
02:19<justme>valdyn: Thanks, I'll try it.
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02:25<justme>valdyn: if you may take a look http://picpaste.com/c4ccc31b845528506e96b0cdf1479ece.png
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05:35<Apollo>https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/security-group/certs/included/
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05:36<Apollo>http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/48437/how-can-you-check-the-installed-certificate-authority-in-windows-7-8
05:36<Apollo>^ enjoy
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06:29<anonymous>hellp
06:29<anonymous>hello
06:30<apoc>Hi! I just installed Wheezy (netinstall) on a very old laptop. Install went fine (had to provide non-free wlan driver `tigon/tg3_tso5.bin`). Now don't have wlan access. How can I get my wireless working to update/install packages?
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06:30<anonymous>can someone help e
06:31<apoc>anonymous, you should ask a question, otherwise we don't know how to help
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06:32<anonymous>i will learn sql injection
06:32<anonymous>someone know _
06:32<apoc>you're on #debian. I guess you can find a more suitable channel..
06:33<anonymous>zou know some
06:33<anonymous>maybe
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06:34<apoc>search for sql, (web)hacking or pentesting channels.. as for now I don't have a suitable channel for you
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06:38<apoc>Hi! I just installed Wheezy (netinstall) on a very old laptop. Install went fine (had to provide non-free wlan driver `tigon/tg3_tso5.bin`). Now don't have wlan access. How can I get my wireless working to update/install packages?
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06:41<apoc>My wireless usb dongle (netgear wg111v3 (realtek RTL8187B) isn't working after netinstall
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06:45<apoc>it says firmware agent aborted loading tigon/tg3_tso5.bin (not found?).. I have the bin file, how do I make him use it?
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09:33<Egzorcist>hi
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09:35<Egzorcist>what should i do to use soundblaster xfi hd on my debian wheezy?
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09:36<centrx>Egzorcist, https://wiki.debian.org/X-Fi
09:37<Egzorcist>i tried to do this but i`m feeling like a newbie with setting up with this wiki
09:38<centrx>There shouldn't be any driver problems
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09:38<centrx>The key thing might be adding your user to the audio group, so your user can play sound
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09:39<Egzorcist>i`m added to group but i dont recieve sound on my external card
09:39<centrx>!alsa checklist
09:39<dpkg>1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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09:41<Egzorcist>centrx: my debian see only: "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 041e:3232 Creative Technology, Ltd " but nothing more on usb for this soundblaster xfi hd
09:41<centrx>What kernel are you running? (uname -a)
09:42<Egzorcist> 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux now
09:42<Egzorcist>but first i tried to use backported 3.16.0-0bpo4
09:44<centrx>Both should have th driver, is your sound card really new?
09:44<Egzorcist>i bought it yesterday....
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09:44<Egzorcist>this is version for year 2014
09:45<centrx>And the backported kernel doesn't work with it either? Did you have the audio user set up at that time?
09:45<centrx>Run through the checklist with the backported kernel?
09:46<Egzorcist>i tried yesterday with backported kernel yesterday
09:46-!-broucarie [~bastien@mla78-1-82-240-16-166.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian
09:47<Egzorcist>now i`m on original kernel for debian wheezy from repo us.debian.org
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09:48<Egzorcist>and today i`m on 3.2.0-4-amd64
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09:52<Egzorcist>on alsa project i see that i need modify my kernel, but i dont wanna to kill my PC
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09:53<centrx>Egzorcist, How do you need to modify your kernel?
09:54<centrx>Egzorcist, The appropriate driver should be already compiled in Debian, as a module
09:54<centrx>Egzorcist, You may want to check what the right driver is for your exact model/brand
09:54<centrx>Egzorcist, See if it's in that kernel
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09:54<Egzorcist>centrx: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-usb-audio this is webpage of alsa and my brand new creative soundblaster xfi hd
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09:57<Egzorcist>so... how can i see what modules i have in my kernel?
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09:59<centrx>lsmod
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10:00<Egzorcist>centrx: for usb i have: usbcore 128741 9 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,usb_storage,btusb,usbhid,stkwebcam,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_usb_audio
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10:00<centrx>Do you mean your sound card is actually USB?
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10:01<Egzorcist>yes - soundblaster xfi hd is only in version USB
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10:01<centrx>interesting yeah that might be tough
10:01<centrx>if it doesn't just work, which it doesn't
10:01<centrx>apparently
10:02<centrx>I don't know
10:04<Egzorcist>i cannot see any of usb outputs & inputs (headphones, line out, optical out, microphone, line in, optical in)
10:04<Apollo>does alsamixer see the device?
10:04<Egzorcist>yes
10:05<Apollo>then you probably need to set the device as default
10:05<Egzorcist>but only "pcm"
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10:05<Egzorcist>and nothing more on it
10:06<Egzorcist>PCM & PCM Capture Source....
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10:06<Egzorcist>when i`m using pcm as my sound output i cannot hear anything
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10:08<Egzorcist>Apollo: any hints?
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10:13<Apollo>not really, unfortunately
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10:51<ckosloff>I am trying to set the hostname of a remote server, but it is not taking it, I know what the hostname is, but cannot set it for system to recognize it
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11:06<valdyn>!hostname
11:06<dpkg>Use «hostname foo» to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot (create /etc/hostname if it does not exist) and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set up local translations for a FQDN. See also 'man 1 hostname', or ask me about <mailname>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname
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11:07<valdyn>ckosloff: you need to do both ^^
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11:16<ckosloff>valdyn: gotcha, thanks
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11:24<ckosloff>valdyn: just add the hostname in /etc/hosts after 127.0.0.1 localhost, save, reboot?
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12:14<Aquarius>I am trying to install icedtea-2.5.4 on Debian Wheezy. As per the info I started /autogen.sh and get the message "No proper autoconf was found. You must have autoconf 2.59 or later installed."
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12:15<Aquarius>the output of apt-cache madison autoconf is "autoconf | 2.69-1 | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages" so it seams I have a higher version. What to do?
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12:17<Senen>Hola, alguien que hable espanol y use AV Linux?
12:19<guildenstern>notepad/win 22
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12:51<threshold>Hi there, I need some help with a gtK theme Numix. I can't find where to change the font color of some windows. http://i.imgur.com/JRz7GER.jpg
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12:51<threshold>Thanks in advance
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13:17<pocpo>vaya toalla no?
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13:48<linuxguy>Hi........How do you get kate run run as root please/..ive forgotten
13:49<redeeman>well what error are you getting?
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13:54<linuxguy>redeeman: none, Ive forgotten how to make kate run as root so I can add more repos to the .sources.list
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14:15<awal>I install pack A and B and C packs are installed as deps or recommends. After that I purge A, and apt/aptitude will autoremove B and C. How to make apt/aptitude purge B and C automatically after purging A or while A is being purged?
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14:17<awal>apt doesn't purge B and C packs. I always have to look at unpurged packs with aptitude
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15:31<slbtc>Hey I need help when I try to update I get this error "The following packages have unmet dependencies"
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15:32<slbtc>https://dpaste.de/hnSV
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15:33<slbtc>can someone help?
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15:36<devil_>slbtc: this is not from update. what is the command you use and are you on stable?
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15:37<slbtc>devil: yes
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15:37<devil_>and you used apt-get upgrade?
15:37<slbtc>devil: I'm using the update software manager
15:37<devil_>hm, never seen that
15:37<slbtc>devil: when I try apt-get upgrade nothing happens
15:37<devil_>nothing?
15:37<slbtc>devil: it says no updates available
15:38*chronoboy snickers.
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15:38<slbtc>but when I try to do it from the software update it says I have updates
15:38<devil_>can you pastebin the output of apt-cache policy
15:38<slbtc>k
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15:40<slbtc>devil: https://dpaste.de/fPTi
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15:40<slbtc>am I missing anything?
15:41<devil_>slbtc: no, you have to much
15:41<slbtc>devil: what should I get rid of?
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15:41<devil_>slbtc: you have sid and stable with same preferences of 500
15:41<devil_>that is not healthy
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15:42<devil_>either comment sid or set it to a different priority
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15:42<slbtc>like what?
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15:43<slbtc>I'm in sources.list right now what priority should I set it to?
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15:44<devil_>you do this in /etc/apt/preferences, not in the sources.list. but mixing stable with sid is not healthy within itself
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15:44<slbtc>devil: ah ok well I can get rid of it then
15:44<devil_>or /preferences.d
15:45<devil_>slbtc: you should, until you know what you are doing
15:45<devil_>just put a # in front of it in sources
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15:45<jpleau>hello, I am trying to setup raid1+lvm as follow (swap is the volume group, confusing so I mention it): http://i.imgur.com/rCP5tO2.png - But I get this error: http://i.imgur.com/9aEEbDp.png -- Isn't itwhat I have to do though to create a raid1? Create the exact same partitions on both drives?
15:45<devil_>then apt-get update to make the system see the change
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15:46<slbtc>yep already did that
15:47<slbtc>thanks
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15:51<devil_>slbtc: what is tox.im?
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15:51<slbtc>devil: an alternative to skype
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15:56<facasto>ciaooo
15:56<facasto>!list
15:56<dpkg>facasto: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più.
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16:11<fafaonlinux>bonsoir à tous!!
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16:13<Kasaan>hello. Is there's a way (a web page or mailing list archive) to get the reasons why a package stay for months in NEW (a part from asking FTP master) ?
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16:14<mtn>Kasaan: not sure if this is what you are looking for. https://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html
16:15<Kasaan>mtn, sorry, no because the PTS page is only created after the package has left NEW.
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17:56<Linnak>hi, in icedove when I open a message in a new window and in the new popup window i disable menu, how can I get back?
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18:27<bmf>hey all i need some help with ufw
18:27<bmf>anyone can assist
18:29<bmf>anyone on
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18:35<dondelelcaro>bmf: people are here, but I'm not sure what you need help with.
18:36*dondelelcaro actually uses ferm, not ufw
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18:38<bmf>im trying to redirect output from ufw to /var/log without ufw messages showing up in the dmesg
18:38<bmf>output
18:39<themill>bmf: you might also like to be clear as to whether you're running Debian or Ubuntu.
18:39<bmf>both
18:40<bmf>i have a install of debian for a lamp install and a ubuntu for a mysql install both have ufw both have the same behaviour
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19:37<bagginsdk>Hello! I would like to ask how can i install thunderbird
19:37<centrx>!thunderbird
19:37<dpkg>Icedove is a DFSG-free fork of Mozilla Thunderbird, a cross-platform email client, replacing Thunderbird in Debian as of 5.0 "Lenny". Debian is unable to distribute Mozilla Thunderbird as-is due to trademark restrictions, see <why icedove>. Since July 2013, Icedove in Debian <stable> is based on the Extended Support Release (ESR) branch. For help with upstream issues, ask #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org. http://wiki.debian.org/Icedove
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19:38<centrx>bagginsdk, So, apt-get install icedove
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19:48<bagginsdk>Thank you! Also how can i install my wifi card which has also a bluetooth adapter. My machine is a laptop
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19:54<awal>bagginsdk: install wifi card? you mean the needed firmware for your wifi card?
19:55<bagginsdk>awal, yes. I came from fedora and i have little knowledge of debian
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19:59<awal>bagginsdk: one way for find your wifi drivers chipset is running "lspci | grep -i wireless"
19:59<awal>run that command
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20:00<bagginsdk>it said that my card is Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000
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20:00<bagginsdk>Where can i find the drivers? I mean are there in debian repo?
20:01<awal>so I'm pretty sure you need to install the firmware package called 'firmware-iwlwifi'
20:01<themill>("lspci -nn | grep -i net" tends to work better btw)
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20:05<bagginsdk>I tried but package manager cannot find it.
20:05<awal>bagginsdk: for get your wifi working install the package 'firmware-iwlwif'. But you may want to run themill command too for your ethernet; maybe you need another non-free firmware too for eth
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20:05<awal>you must add non-free to your sources.list
20:07<awal>contrib too, you may need it for some packs ...
20:07<awal>firmware-iwlwifi ^
20:07<awal>you may find more info here https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
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20:12<awal>bagginsdk: your '/etc/apt/sources.list' should look like this deb http://ftp.your country.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free then "apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi"and you done. you may need to reboot; not sure
20:13<abrotman>should really use http.debian.net, not the CC line
20:13<awal>probably better yeah...
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20:18<Pyro_Killer>Hello everyone, Ubuntu has a minimalist iso that under 50megs and doesn't have to much BS on it, does debian have an equivelant
20:18<Pyro_Killer>Like CLI
20:19<dondelelcaro>Pyro_Killer: the netinst iso is the equivalent
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20:20<Pyro_Killer>It's like 280 megs
20:20<themill>Pyro_Killer: what is on the ISO is much less relevant than what you choose to install.
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20:20<Pyro_Killer>does it have a tasksel type ordeal...
20:21<themill>hitting enter is an ordeal?
20:21<Pyro_Killer>No, I know I shouldn't compare the 2 too much, but i'm talking about this: http://landoflinux.com/images/ubuntu_server_1204_29.png
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20:23<themill>Pyro_Killer: tasksel exists but has only a handful of options displayed. I wouldn't have called it an ordeal.
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20:23<Pyro_Killer>sorry, I'm very tired and not a native english speaker
20:24<Marillion>Pyro_Killer: and it come from debian
20:24<Pyro_Killer>I don't doubt that for a second
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20:24<bagginsdk>Thank you so much for your help! One last question. How can i enable bluetooth adapter?
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20:28<Pyro_Killer>I'mma try to ask this, and I see many good reasons for it, but why exactly don't debian users like ubuntu
20:29<Pyro_Killer>If you use the minimalist and build it from the ground up, it ain't so bad
20:30<AberHatschi>Debian like
20:30<Pyro_Killer>exactly
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20:31<Marillion>Pyro_Killer: because Ubuntu think they have invented Debian
20:31<AberHatschi>Pyro_Killer, Debian is the Dad of Ubuntu
20:31<Pyro_Killer>Well, I knew that, I didn't know it was a common misconception
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20:34<AberHatschi>you have the same menu on debian install
20:34<themill>s/same/similar/
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21:19<circ-user-TAECh>Hi I'm rather new to linux and I'm trying to get a pesistent mount to a windows 7 system and running into problems
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21:19<circ-user-TAECh>wondering if someone could assist
21:19<circ-user-TAECh>I've been able to get it to mount normally
21:20<circ-user-TAECh>but can't seem to get the syntax right for the /etc/fstab
21:20<circ-user-TAECh>this works for a regular mount:
21:20<circ-user-TAECh>sudo mount -t cifs --verbose -o uid=pi,gid=pi,rw,noserverino,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,user="ghost\pi",pass="password" //ghost/SABnzbd /media/SABnzbd/windows
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