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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-03-03

---Logopened Tue Mar 03 00:00:25 2015
---Daychanged Tue Mar 03 2015
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00:24<testman>Is this channel appropriate for Debian testing questions?
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00:25<SamB_laptop>testing: it's not wrong
00:25<EyebrowsGuy>Hi
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00:25<paxmark9>testman #debian-next is the appropriate channel
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00:26<testman>Ah, thank you.
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00:35<md_>someone can help me : configure.ac:6: installing `./install-sh'
00:35<md_>error
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00:37<levlaz>md_: what is your error?
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00:46<md_>openbsc install error :: autoreconf -i
00:46<md_>configure.ac:6: installing `./install-sh'
00:46<md_>configure.ac:6: installing `./missing'
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03:29<fishbait>what are the benefits of bind9/dhcpd over dnsmasq other than caching and heavyweight 20+device status
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03:35<jm_>why do you consider caching as a benefit? dnsmasq does caching too
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03:36<fishbait>what type of static ipv6 adress is best for giving to the bridge?
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03:38<fishbait>is there a place i can go to generate an ipv6 unicast address?
03:39<fishbait>i need an ipv6 unicast adress to function as the local gateway
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04:45<harun>merhaba arkadaşlar
04:45<darknessthekidd>Anyone want to be a co-worker on a small project I am starting? I am remaking the Crunchbang OS. But as it's own thing/style from the discontiuned Crunchbang OS. Anyone up for a small Skype chat?
04:46<harun>ben yeni yeni kullanıcıyım pardus konusunda deneyimli olan varmı aranızda
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04:47<jm_>!tr
04:47<dpkg>tr is, like, t�rk�e yardIm i�in #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net.
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04:49<harun>yazdıklarımı gören varmı yoksa özele mi yazmam gerekiyor acaba
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04:53<harun>burda yazdıklarımı gören yokmu ya
04:54<petn-randall>harun: The language of this channel is English. If you want to get Debian support in turkish, join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net.
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04:56<harun>can i help me
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04:57<harun>who can help me
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05:11<SOUL_OF_R00T>hello guys here is time to say good morning, hheehehhe, i need some help my iphone is detected and listed in lsusb bute the system not reconize him any tip or help?
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05:24<petn-randall>SOUL_OF_R00T: What do you expect it to do?
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05:57<user12>ASFD
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06:19<fishbait>does debian wheezy come accept the ip6table command by default?
06:20<fishbait>or is iptables fully unified in the 3.2 kernel?
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06:21<fishbait>man wheres an expeert when you need em.
06:21<jm_>iptables is not installed by default
06:21<fishbait>so i need to get ip6 tables?
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06:24<jm_>if you want to use it then obviously yes
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06:25<fishbait>... on a whim i tried ip6tables -show and got use ip6tables -h for help etc that means its installed right?
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06:25<pudor>hi all! problem is my lg 3g s d724 is not working with debian
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06:26<pudor>not modem, not data storage
06:26<Apollo>fishbait: you seem to require a LOT of handholding...
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06:27<fishbait>@Apollo well i am learning and uncertain but willing to blindly forge ahead lol
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06:27<pudor>what i has to do with this?
06:27<pudor>pirate way is the only way?
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06:29<pudor>anybody live?
06:29<fishbait>okay down i go and once more unto the breach!
06:30<pudor>any support?
06:31<jm_>pudor: this is support channel for Debian, do you have a debian related issue?
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06:31<pudor>jm_:my lg 3g s d724 does not work with debian
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06:32<pudor>jm_:what i has to do?
06:32<jm_>pudor: if you want help then explain the following to the channel (not to me):
06:32<pudor>jm_:install windows?
06:32<jm_>!ask
06:32<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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06:40<fishbait>im back! and now only await a ipv6pd from my isp!!!! that was simple enough!
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06:48<pudor>any support?
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06:52<themill>pudor: you need actually ask questions that can possibly be answered and provide details.
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07:01<pudor>any support?
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07:19<madduck>do we know a free font showcase website?
07:19<madduck>like one i can give to a designer to say: pick from here, because i insist you use a Free font?
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07:20<madduck>http://openfontlibrary.org/… anything else?
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07:24<themill>madduck: fonts.debian.net (no idea if it's kept up to date)
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07:27<madduck>themill: sweet. does not look maintained, but it's a nice resource too
07:28<madduck>thanks
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09:17<huskwy>hi, i recent tryed to install the ATI Proprietary driver for my Radeon HD 8400 at the newest jessie release, i tryed smxi and i followed this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary . But the result was always failing to run startx because of "lost connection to xserver". Does anybody has a clue to get the right driver on my system?
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09:29<huskwy>nobody a idea?
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09:33<Maulkin>huskwy: Well, what is smxi?
09:33<Maulkin>huskwy: I think you may need to get support from smxi upstream, the ATI drivers and smxi don't seem to be in Debian.
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09:36<huskwy>hi, i dont want to use smxi, it was just a ry
09:36<huskwy>what i want is to install any vga driver to run steam on debian
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09:38<mtn>huskwy: have you used the debian wiki to check or adjust your video card drivers?
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09:40<huskwy>i wanted to install a driver to run steam
09:40<mtn>huskwy: have you checked out the debian wiki?
09:42<stdhell>.... and i followed this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
09:42<stdhell>I think that's a "yes".
09:42<huskwy>yes :)
09:42<mtn>huskwy: so what is the problem?
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09:43<huskwy>i hat to reinstall debian because of startx was not running, and iam to noobish to find out how to fix it
09:43<huskwy>*had
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09:53<huskwy>the problem is that if i install the fglrx driver, the screen is black after reboot, but i can use ctrl+alt+f1 and so on
09:53<huskwy>an when i try to run start the error above appears
09:53<huskwy>*startx
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10:09<towo^work>huskwy, as sayed days before, provedi /var/log/Xorg.0.log
10:09<towo^work>*provide
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10:09<abrotman>said
10:10<towo^work>even that
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10:12<huskwy>i not happy about to crash my system again to provide those logs
10:13<towo^work>"but i can use ctrl+alt+f1 and so on" there is nothing chrashed
10:13<towo^work>and btw, there are old-logs
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10:13<huskwy>where are old logs?
10:14<huskwy>the problem is, with only ctrl+alt+f1 its impossible to me to rejoin you here in this channel
10:14<huskwy>=crash
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10:17<towo^work>huskwy, there are tons of cli irc clients available
10:17<towo^work>and all logs are in /var/log
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10:21<huskwy>but this are the new logs without the errors after fglrx installation
10:21<huskwy>the old ones are deleted with reintallation
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10:41<sedulous>is cdn.debian.net having problems? i've been getting this http error for days: http://cdn.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy/main/source/Sources: 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:41c8:1000:21::21:35 80]
10:41<sedulous>other mirrors work
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10:43<sedulous>IPv4 on cdn.debian.net works, just not IPv6
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10:49<unk1nd>why cant i upgrade my kernel ?
10:50<mtn>unk1nd: want to provide details?
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10:52<unk1nd>i have a this old kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 and want to update it
10:52<mtn>!ask
10:52<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:52<awal>unk1nd: if you run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade" or "aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade" your kernel should be upgraded
10:53<stdhell>sedulous: From http://cdn.debian.net/ => "If you are familiar with cdn.debian.net you should think of http.debian.net as a superior replacement."
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10:53<mtn>sounds like he is using squeeze and there may not be newer kernels for squeeze
10:53<awal>unk1nd: in stable upgrade, dist-upgrade or safe-upgrade, full-upgrade have same effect
10:54<unk1nd>mtn: correct
10:54<awal>yeah 2.6 is squeeze :P
10:54<mtn>unk1nd: those are the sort of details that come in handy
10:54<unk1nd>dist-update tells me i dont have any upgrades to do
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10:55<sedulous>stdhell: thanks. i didn't see that message over IPv6
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10:55<mtn>unk1nd: look at the wiki about squeeze and squeeze-lts
10:55<awal>squeeze still with kernel 2.6. stable dont get newer versions of kernel, only major bugs are fixed, unk1nd
10:56<stdhell>sedulous: Seems like cdn.debian.net on IPv4 is actually http.debian.net, while on IPv6 it's "something else".
10:56<awal>unk1nd: dist-update no, dist-upgrade
10:57<unk1nd>i meant dist-upgrade
10:57<unk1nd>sry
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10:58<unk1nd>awal: the reason i want to update my kernel is that i have a wireless usb device i want to connect and set as a ac-hoc and seams the kernel is fucking up the drivers for it. its a alfa awus036h and it uses the rtl8187 module and i need to get it updated
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10:59<mtn>unk1nd: why not upgrade to a newer current version of debian?
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11:01<unk1nd>mtn: does that invole to reinstall the box ?
11:01<awal>unk1nd: you need a newer kernel, but I dont think squeeze will upgrade to a new kernel version for now. there is squeeze-lts and some packs are updated but but squeeze still considered obsolete
11:02<mtn>unk1nd: no, debian supports upgrading in place. read the release notes for wheezy
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11:02<awal>squeeze lts is an experiment for now...
11:02<unk1nd>http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-6-apt-get-install-linux-kernel-3-2/
11:02<unk1nd>so this will not work?
11:03<mtn>unk1nd: do squeeze-backports still exist?
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11:04<unk1nd>well, i get it up in the webbrowser
11:04<unk1nd>so it must be online right?
11:04<mtn>unk1nd: give it a try
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11:05<unk1nd>just going to wait for my backup to be done
11:05<awal>unk1nd: try to do things in debian way...Basically back up all your data and change 'squeeze' to 'wheezy'. then "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
11:06<awal>change squeeze to wheezy in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
11:06<mtn>awal: it is important to read the release notes, what you are suggesting is not always enough
11:06<awal>mtn: right
11:06<Rohit>RTFM
11:06<Rohit>every day
11:06<unk1nd>will read release notes before i try. still need to wait for my backup to be done
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11:08<awal>unk1nd: which DE you run?
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11:09<unk1nd>DE?
11:09<unk1nd>debian 6.0
11:09<unk1nd>if it was disto you mean ?
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11:10<stdhell>unk1nd: Desktop Environment... Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ...
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11:11<Rohit>is it Gnome
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11:13<unk1nd>dont run desktop on it
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11:13<unk1nd>run it only in terminal
11:14<unk1nd>tho it is a server
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11:15<awal>unk1nd: if you don't use any DE probably your transition from squeeze to wheezy will be less complicated so
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11:16<unk1nd>awal: thats good to hear
11:16<awal>was thinking in gnome 2 --> gnome 3 and it's shell and 3d support
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11:36<parrot-sec__>hi
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11:45<marie>bonjour
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11:46<marie>je voudrais savoir comment on met un document en mode paysage avec libreofficewriter svp merci
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12:18<unk1nd>get a message "linux-base (3) unstable; urgency=low" will trying to install
12:18<unk1nd>how do i get pass that ?
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12:19<mtn>unk1nd: trying to install what? details matter ;)
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12:21<unk1nd>nevermind
12:21<unk1nd>got past it
12:21<unk1nd>rebooting in to the new kernel
12:21<unk1nd>crossing fingers :P
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12:24<awal>marie: français ---> #debian-fr
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12:53<Gods>hello all, can I get some help concerning apt pinning?
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12:57<Gods>I have added testing and unstable to my sources.list, and pecified stable with priority 700, testing 650, and unstable 600. However, after making these changes and performing an update, my previously fully updated machine wants to update a few packages from testing. Packages: libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev locales tzdata tzdata-java
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13:03<lendland>hello
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13:03<lendland>I installed ssh on my debian 7 machine
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13:04<lendland>but I'm only able to connect to it trough lan
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13:04<lendland>I want to access it even if I'm outside home :)
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13:05<lendland>but when I try to connect to the machine's external ip it says "connection refused" or "connection timeout"
13:05<Gods>change the listen address in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
13:05<Gods>ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
13:05<Gods>and make sure you have port forwarding configured on your router
13:06<lendland>and I have to forward port 22, right?
13:06<Gods>if that is your listening port, yes
13:06<lendland>it is
13:07<lendland>ListenAddress is not set in my sshd_config, do I need to set it, or setting port forwarding is ennough?
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13:07<Gods>i believe the port forward will fix it
13:07<lendland>ok thank you
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13:13<lendland>it works
13:13<lendland>thanks bro :D
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13:24<FransWillem>Hi, would anyone know how to convert a Debian Wheezy system to run inside of an LXC container ? First error I ran into was the /etc/fstab being wrong, which was fixed by replacing it with an empty file, but now I can't seem to get networking working :-/
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13:30<H2DaZ>Hello, I have come across a peculiar problem. I've been using Debian for a few months now (which works fine BTW) but I am unable to install any other OS from USB. I have tried Windows 7, Netrunner, Linux Mint and i also tried to re-install debian as well but it just wont boot to the USB. I dont have UEFI Secure boot. I have enabled USB Boot, Changed the boot priority to USB but still no luck
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13:32<H2DaZ>can someone please help :/
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13:32<lendland>H2DaZ I don't think it's a debian problem
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13:33<lendland>probabily your bios does not support usb boot
13:33<lendland>or your usb drive is buggy/damaged or not well formatted...
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13:34<H2DaZ>yup i agree its not a debian problem. I disagree with the bios and usb statement because i installed debian with USB and i have tried different flash drives
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13:36<awal>are you sure your OS's images are burned well to your usb?
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13:37<H2DaZ>I've burned them using Unetbootin yumi and winusb and all failed
13:37<PaulePanter>Hi. I am currently looking into the long start-up time of X server.
13:37<PaulePanter>With GDM I have https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89369 on one Debian Sid/unstable system.
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13:38<PaulePanter>The EDID is queried several times. Could somebody using GDM please paste their `/var/log/Xorg.0.log` for comparison?
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13:39<PaulePanter>I am also interested in your X server start-up times: time sudo X -pogo :1 &> /dev/null
13:39<PaulePanter>That starts an X server and shuts it down right away afterward.
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13:42<H2DaZ>is flashing BIOS on Linux different from flashing BIOS on windows?
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13:45<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: Yeah. Normally the vendors do not provide a tool that works under GNU/Linux.
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13:46<H2DaZ>oh
13:46<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: So you have to either use flashrom – http://flashrom.org/ – which supports a lot of boards but has problems with some recent Intel boards or laptops. (Read the flashrom FAQ.)
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13:46<H2DaZ>ah was just looking into that
13:46<H2DaZ>thanx mate :)
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13:46<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: Most vendors provide a bootable image which is often FreeDOS(?) based. Either burn that to a CD/DVD or try to extract the programs from the provided image and try to load that from GRUB.
13:47<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: There are several guides in the Web for that I think.
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13:47<H2DaZ>I am pretty new to linux could you link me to them??
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13:48<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: I would also only put the key words into a search engine.
13:48<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: What board do you have?
13:48<H2DaZ>lol
13:48<H2DaZ>how do i check?
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13:50<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: Laptop or desktop?
13:50<H2DaZ>deskop
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13:50<H2DaZ>Intel DG 96somothing
13:50<H2DaZ>just did a "dmidecode command"
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13:51<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: `dmesg | grep DMI`
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13:51<H2DaZ>Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
13:51<H2DaZ> Product Name: DG965RY
13:51<H2DaZ> Version: AAD41691-301
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13:52<H2DaZ>oh the command you gave returned DMI: /DG965RY, BIOS MQ96510J.86A.1687.2007.0510.0258 05/10/2007
13:53<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: From http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/dsktpboards/dg965ry
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13:54<PaulePanter>goto http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-022312.htm
13:54<PaulePanter>Then burn that ISO on a CD and boot from that.
13:55<PaulePanter>H2DaZ: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Flashing_BIOS_from_Linux seems pretty complete.
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13:55<H2DaZ>does it have to be a CD/DVD?? can i not do it on usb?
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14:15<ph0b0s>is it possible to find when changes in file permissions occured, with syslog or any other manner?
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14:16<unk1nd>where can i find the drivers for Alfa AWUS036NH ?
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14:21<H2DaZ>Thanx a ton mate
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14:22<gsimmons>unk1nd: That device is supported by the Linux kernel's rt2800usb driver. You will need to supply firmware for its use ; /msg dpkg ralink firmware
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14:32<unk1nd>gsimmons: have installed the firmware for rt2800usb but it still uses "driver=rtl8187"
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14:34<unk1nd>should i blacklist the rtl8187 driver ?
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14:34<gsimmons>unk1nd: Where is that defined? It's the wrong driver for a device with a Ralink RT3070 chip.
14:35<unk1nd>gave me this on the device
14:35<unk1nd> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8187 driverversion=3.2.0-4-amd64 firmware=N/A link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
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14:38<gsimmons>unk1nd: At least you're on Linux 3.2 now. Does "lsusb | grep 148f" return any output?
14:38<unk1nd>nothing
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14:39<unk1nd>lsusb comes up with "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0bda:8187 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187 Wireless Adapter" for the device
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14:40<unk1nd>the problem i am having that i cant get the device to go in ac-hoc mode
14:40<unk1nd>Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
14:40<unk1nd> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
14:41<Elvano>Because of some issues I tinkered a bit with the settings of my keyboard. Sadly for some reason now my alt-gr key does no longer work. Anyone an idea on how to fix this?
14:44<awal>!keymap
14:44<dpkg>Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>.
14:44<awal>Elvano: probably thats what you need to know ^
14:44<gsimmons>unk1nd: OK, sounds you have the older AWUS036H (which is a Realtek). Your system is already using the Linux kernel's driver (rtl8187), which doesn't require firmware to be supplied. The configuration examples at https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc may be of help.
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14:45<Elvano>I already tried that one, awal
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14:48<awal>Elvano: users in this channel aren't with you there and do't know what you did ...
14:48<unk1nd>gsimmons: i have tryed that all day :P
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14:48<unk1nd>still get the error i posted
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14:50<gsimmons>unk1nd: Ah, ad-hoc (IBSS) wasn't supported in that driver until Linux 3.4. You'll need to use the kernel from backports (/msg dpkg bdo kernel).
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15:06<unk1nd>is this something i need to be scared of ?
15:06<unk1nd>Setter opp linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 (3.16.7-ckt4-3~bpo70+1) ...
15:06<unk1nd>dkms: WARNING: linux headers are missing, which may explain the above failures.
15:06<unk1nd> please install the linux-headers-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 package to fix this.
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15:07<unk1nd>http://paste.debian.net/159497/
15:08<unk1nd>?
15:09<musca>line 4: please install the linux-headers-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 package to fix this.
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16:10<ziGuy>Hello guys,
16:11<ziGuy>Updating debian kind of destroy my os (learned to safe-upgrade next time).
16:11<ziGuy>killed my xserver, video drivers and now i can't use apt-get / aptitude - which is my main problem right now.
16:11<ziGuy>I CAN use dpkg
16:11<ziGuy>my os: Linux wheezy 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
16:11-!-ziGuy was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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16:12<ziGuy>any ideas?
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16:23<retrospectacus>ziGuy: upgrade from what? what'd'you mean "can't use apt-get"?
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16:24<ompaul>,v kernels
16:24<judd>No package named 'kernels' was found in i386.
16:24<ziGuy>just run aptitude update or aptitude upgradem can't remember. Please take a look at the second paragraph: http://pastebin.com/f4G3AJrD
16:24<ompaul>,kernels
16:24<judd>Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.19.0-trunk-686-pae (3.19-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt7-1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt4-3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt4-3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6)
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16:25<ompaul>ziGuy: upgrading from what too what? when it said it was done did you reboot?
16:25<ziGuy>in addition i got the same error when trying to install a package using aptitude
16:26<ompaul>s/too/to/
16:27<ziGuy>yes, reboot didn't help. i didn't upgrade a specific package
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16:27<ompaul>ziGuy: you said safe-upgrade - what were you upgrading
16:27<ompaul>where you on squeeze and moved to wheezy or something else?
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16:28<ompaul>safe-upgrade is from one major version to another - not for security (and the odd other) fixes in a particular version
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16:28<ompaul>i.e. from squeeze -> wheezy
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16:29<ziGuy>I didn't upgrade my distro. i've got a notification from my update manager said that there are updates available and just click to update
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16:30<ompaul>ziGuy: good, ok on the command line do this as root: apt-get update
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16:31<ompaul>ziGuy: makes sure whatever update manager program that is available to you is closed
16:31*ompaul awaits confirmation that is being done
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16:32<ziGuy>here is the output: http://pastebin.com/U2VWbQGN
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16:33<ompaul>ziGuy: please paste all the file /etc/apt/sources.list and give us a url - please be aware that http://paste.debian.net does not have nasty captchas and the like
16:34<ziGuy>http://paste.debian.net/159510/
16:34<ziGuy>excuse me a couple of moments please, my baby is crying
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16:37<ziGuy>sorry, i'm with you now.
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16:44<ziGuy>btw, bzip 2 is installed
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16:47<retrospectacus>ziGuy: can you show us the outputs of these commands "apt-cache policy" "dpkg --print-architecture" "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures"
16:47<SamB_laptop>I used to wonder about bzip 1
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16:48<ziGuy>http://paste.debian.net/159512/
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16:50<retrospectacus>probably remove i686. dpkg --remove-architecture i686
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16:52<retrospectacus>ziGuy: then update should work. I am not sure why you are trying to install a kernel-headers package from storage. What's your plan?
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16:55<ziGuy>THANK YOU!
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16:55<retrospectacus>anytime :)
16:56<ziGuy>about my plan:
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17:00<ziGuy>the all mess damage my hibernation system so i want to reinstall nvidia driver with dkms because the computer cannot enter suspend mode using nouveau driver. and althogh the linux-headers is installed NVIDIA's script can't find it, I don't know why
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17:01<retrospectacus>ziGuy: forget all that
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17:02<retrospectacus>!nvidia dkms
17:02<dpkg>For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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17:03<retrospectacus>ziGuy: those are the supported steps to install nvidia driver
17:03<retrospectacus>ziGuy: any questions, you know where to ask
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17:04<ziGuy>Are you human or angles?
17:05<awal>ziGuy: do you understand all that command for nvidia dkms?
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17:06<ziGuy>most of it, but i think all i need is the reinstallation of the linux-headers, because it used to work before. if it won't work i'll try your steps
17:07<awal>that command is so f***** crazy :)
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17:08<ziGuy>thank you all guys. have a great life.
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17:12<awal>What does this part of the command step by step exactly? aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms
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17:14<jhutchins>how do you test jobs in /etc/crontab?
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17:14<valdyn>awal: you can use $(uname -r)
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17:15<abrotman>jhutchins: su to that user, run the command?
17:15<retrospectacus>awal: run uname -r
17:15<valdyn>jhutchins: first of all you probably should not mess with that file at all
17:16<retrospectacus>awal: run uname -r | sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'
17:16<retrospectacus>awal: that output will be appended to "linux-headers-" for the install command
17:16<jhutchins>valdyn: I know, but a lot of admins dump system jobs there.
17:17<awal>valdyn: that is easy; i know what mean uname -r but lost with the part linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`
17:17<valdyn>jhutchins: i dont know of any useful way to test cronjobs except by putting them in some crontab
17:17<valdyn>awal: its a "regular expression". You will need to read up on that to really understand it.
17:18<awal>retrospectacus: hm, I understand the idea yeah
17:18<awal>valdyn: sure
17:18<retrospectacus>jhutchins: make the cronjob write to some file, also make it run every minute - ways to test in some fashion
17:18<awal>i'll have to be an expert in aptitude
17:18<valdyn>awal: it just removes stuff that starts with - and ends with -
17:19<valdyn>awal: regular expressions are "standard knowledge", they are not aptitude specific
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17:19<retrospectacus>the regular expression is used by sed (stream editor) not aptitude
17:21<valdyn>awal: but in fact, that advice to use that command is not a good one
17:22<valdyn>awal: just use `uname -r` or $(uname -r) without the sed stuff
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17:23<awal>Ok, guys. I think I must kill time learning more about gnu/linux instead of customizing stuffs :)
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17:24<valdyn>awal: there's just 2 computer sciency things you really need to know for debian, one is bachus-naur form, the other is regular expressions
17:24<valdyn>awal: having a rough idea is usually enough, not deep knowledge needed
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17:25<awal>valdyn: ok, thanks for the advice (Y)
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17:43<jhutchins>valdyn: Where is BNF used?
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17:50<joseph-soares>hi, I have a sd card but it cannot be formated by a smartphone or a tablet or a digital camera. How cai I force do something on it. It's on /dev/sdd
17:51<joseph-soares>But neither Linux can mount this sd-card, but it's refered at /dev/sdd
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18:02<retrospectacus>joseph-soares: try fdisk
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18:03<dondelelcaro>joseph-soares: if less -f /dev/sdd; or fdisk /dev/sdd; doesn't work, the sd card may be dead
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18:05<joseph-soares>dondelelcaro, media not found
18:05<dondelelcaro>joseph-soares: check dmesg, but it's likely that either the sd reader doesn't work, or the card is bad
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18:20<bondao>hello guys
18:21<bondao>....someone know ocsinventory and glpi.
18:21<bondao>i have a problem with Apache2::SOAP...
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18:22<bondao>please
18:23<bondao>ok....nobody.....no problem
18:23<bondao>bye
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18:40<gnok>hello everyone! which would be an appropriate channel to ask questions about cross building debian packages?
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19:14<whtemple1959>hello room, I have a bit of a quandry. I ma just learning the entricities of linux. I have installed debian 7.8 with kde but when I boot I am told the machine cannot connect the to the network. if I used the internet to install debian why doesn't debian open the wired connection?
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19:25<gpuk>hi chan. Are there any known issues with start-stop-daemon and the move to systemd in jessie? We have a simple python script that we run as a daemon (http://paste.debian.net/hidden/928dc44c/) which has stopped working since doing a dist upgrade from wheezy to jessie.
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19:30<gpuk>This script connects to rabbitmq and listens for jobs, when a job comes in, it spawns a phantomjs process to handle the job and then sends back the result. Now that we've moved to jessie, the script spawns phantomjs in a child process as before but then seems to lose contact with it i.e. the phantomjs child process is spawned but nothing happens
19:30<gpuk>wondering where/how I can debug this?
19:31<gpuk>if we run the python script in the foreground (using exactly the same command line and args to launch it as if it had been run with start-stop-daemon), everything works perfectly
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19:51<Fahrradkette>how do I get a more verbose error output of tasksel? all I get is "tasksel: apt-get failed (100)" when trying to install jessie in a wheezy chroot using the dvds as source
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21:04<lostson>well I think my pump.io days are over fmrl.me is still down
21:04<lostson>I have emailed evan twice now with no response
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21:16<Brady4MVP>Is there any command that you know of that will give back the model of a server ?
21:17<Brady4MVP>not lspci or /proc/stuff or maybe proc stuff Oo ?
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21:24<abrotman>!whats my hardware
21:24<dpkg>You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! If you install lshw, run "lshw -html > myhardware.html" as root and you'll have a nice HTML summation. See also <myram>, <driver locator>.
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22:51<averythomas>rm -R /home/steve/*/*.log
22:51<averythomas>should work right?
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22:57<dvs>huh?
22:57<dvs>averythomas: find /home/steve -name '*.log' -delete
22:57<averythomas>ty
22:57<averythomas>mine looks more simpler but doesn't work xD
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