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---Logopened Mon Mar 09 07:27:50 2015
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07:52<koollman>Is there any documentation on how to make a local security mirror. (except for 'this is a bad idea'. which I understand and is all I can find about this. but I still want to do it)
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07:55<swizgard>hi
07:55<swizgard>when nethogs shows connections like the following
07:55<swizgard>? root 1.2.3.4:443-6.6.6.6:51912 0.019 0.000 KB/sec
07:55<swizgard>what does that mean?
07:55<themill>koollman: anything like apt-cacher-ng or debmirror should be able to make the mirror.
07:55<swizgard>1.2.3.4 is the server running nethogs, 6.6.6.6 is an outside ip
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09:39<tertu>so, i don't think debian recognizes my laptop's screen properly
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09:39<tertu>it displays 0.0hz for the refresh rate and i can't control the backlight
09:41<egon_>hi all
09:41<egon_>sorry to bother in that fine comunity ,
09:41<egon_>with my little problem
09:42<egon_>but where to ask if not in the source
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09:42<Apollo>!ask
09:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
09:43<egon_>ok, how to make conky network draw look like is shadowing ,
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09:47<tertu>i'm running debian 7.8 with the 3.16 kernel from backports btw
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09:48<tertu>!smart questions
09:48<dpkg>Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>.
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10:28<grobda24>Hi. I've had this problem for too long now on my Debian Testing system. I cannot change my CPU frequency scaling governor. Even though "cpufreq-info -g" shows all the governors (inc. "performance" which I'm trying to change from "on demand" to) "cpufreq-set" can never set it (yes, using sudo) and says "Error setting new values".
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10:29<grobda24>"cat /sys/devices/...governors" also shows governors as available.
10:29<grobda24>Kernel "config" file shows cpufreq set as a module.
10:30<grobda24>But "/sbin/modinfo /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/* | grep "^[fd]" cannot find the modules (on kernel version 3.14-2-rt-amd64)
10:31<grobda24>I really need to set my CPU to performance. Any ideas anyone ?
10:32<Brigo>grobda24, what are that kernel ? it does not seems debian's
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10:35<philophil_>hi there, i am setting up twitter accounts and i keep having the same message after /pin entered, impossible connexion, no valid answer, surcapacity, any clue ? thank you
10:36<Brigo>philophil_, surcapacity?
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10:37<philophil_>Brigo: sorry, wrong channel, apologyses guys
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10:37<Brigo>philophil_, np :)
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10:38<grobda24>Brigo, ah ... that needs eliminating first. That either an old package or something from another source, or I built myself. I'll try installing the latest official Debian Rt kernel first. Thanks :)
10:39<Brigo>grobda24, what is rt?
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10:42<grobda24>Brigo, Real Time
10:42<Brigo>first time i heard about it.
10:44<grobda24>Brigo, you probably never needed it for real time applications ... in this case for Jack Audio music production
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10:45<Brigo>grobda24, i think the problem is the kernel itself, as long as it lacks the modules. May be you can use it in realtime.
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10:47<grobda24>Brigo, yes, confirmed. I just booted into the latest Debian (non RT) kernel and the governor sets OK ! :)
10:47<grobda24>Now to find the right RT kernel.
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10:49<Brigo>grobda24, did you try to patch the kernel? https://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RT_PREEMPT_HOWTO
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10:52<grobda24>Brigo, I have in the past, but there are official packages that already have that done.
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10:52<Brigo>not very well, it seems :)
10:52<SynrG>Maybe there's a good reason not to tinker with the governor under rt
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11:02<Cor3>hello! how to setup XDMCP desktop with GDM3?
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11:04<centrx>Cor3, First two steps under https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xdmcp#GDM (ignore the third step for Debian)
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11:06<Cor3>centrx: tnx, i'll check it out
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11:41<joseph-soares>Hi there, I've just installed Debian 8 and I noticed that in nautilus there's no more how to create new empty file. Why? How do I solve this, please?
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11:44<centrx>joseph-soares, Try #gnome on Freenode for nautilus
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11:44<centrx>joseph-soares, Also you can create an empty file outside of nautilus with the 'touch' command
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12:54<wiki>hello every~one
12:54<pangolinrollin>hi
12:54<wiki>Can I speek CHinese?
12:54<r00t>Hai
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12:54<pangolinrollin>you can but i won't know anything lol
12:55<wiki>Nice to meet you~in Debian IRC
12:55<wiki>ha~ha~
12:55<r00t>Anyone good with network related problems? I'm going crazy once again :/
12:55<pangolinrollin>wiki see "/list" if there is Chinese channel
12:55<wiki>yeah~
12:55<pangolinrollin>what's up r00t?
12:56<r00t>My network drops every ~1 min again, literally drops down to 0.00kbps
12:56<r00t>installed the OS yesterday, always seems to do this after fresh installs
12:56<centrx>!zh
12:56<dpkg>如果您想要得到中文的協助,請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道,加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號),謝謝您的合作!
12:56<wiki>you can update you drivers...Just try it
12:56<pangolinrollin>what network are you on? is it stable with other devices? ^ try drivers like he said
12:57<r00t>Kernel update was the first thing i did on the new installation
12:57<r00t>https://imgur.com/mUDsTyG
12:57<r00t>feel my pain
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12:59<r00t>https://pad.riseup.net/p/XqPNtnzq2oer will be throwing outputs in there
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13:05<r00t>Mhm... the driver seems to be up to date
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13:06<blast007>!BCM5906M
13:06<dpkg>tg3 is a Linux kernel driver supporting Broadcom Tigon3 (aka NetXtreme I) and NetLink Ethernet controllers. Firmware from userspace (Debian Linux 2.6.29 and later kernels) is only required for support of the BCM5701 A0 controller and TCP Segment Offloading (<TSO>) functionality. Tigon3 firmware (tg3.bin, tg3_tso5.bin, tg3_tso.bin) is packaged in firmware-linux-nonfree, ask me about <non-free sources>. See also <firmware images>.
13:07*pangolinrollin eats non-free for breakfast
13:08<blast007>r00t: do you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed?
13:08<r00t>talking about the wireless adapter btw
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13:08<blast007>ah
13:08<r00t>which would be BCM4312
13:08<r00t> !BCM4312
13:08<dpkg>The Broadcom BCM4312 (PCI ID 14e4:4315) is a PCIe 802.11g wireless LAN chipset with a low-power PHY. It is supported by the <b43> driver. Firmware is required, ask me about <contrib> and install the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package to provide. Alternatively supported by <wl>. PCI ID 14e4:4312 uses a BCM4311 chipset, which requires the firmware-b43-installer package instead. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
13:08<pangolinrollin>r00t you could try pinging localhost.. I've seen wierd results if you card is bad.. random numbers/characters and such
13:09<pangolinrollin>more uncommon but i've seen it
13:09<r00t>ping looks normal
13:09<pangolinrollin>well on the right track
13:09<r00t>firmware-linux-nonfree is already the newest version.
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13:10<r00t>nvm, pulling it from the backports
13:10<blast007>r00t: that was for the wired
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13:10<blast007>do you have firmware-b43-installer installed?
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13:10<r00t>wont hurt to update i guess
13:10<towo`>firmware-linux-nonfree does not contain any nic-firmware
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13:12<r00t>http://askubuntu.com/questions/194514/after-upgrade-to-12-04-wireless-keeps-dropping-on-bcm4312
13:12<r00t>does that last answer make sense?
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13:33<r00t>just broke my shit completely
13:33<r00t>lol
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13:38<dino_>ciao
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13:43<r00t>well fuck
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13:47<r00t>healp
13:48<ompaul>!ask
13:48<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
13:48<r00t>already asked though
13:48<ompaul>fine
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13:49<r00t>module assistant wont work
13:49<r00t>thats my current issue
13:49<r00t>meaning i'm, without wifi after trying to fix my wifi
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13:50<ompaul>that's full of "I have a problem with module assistant, I'm running debian version X and when I try to get wifi working I get the following, I did this and I got that
13:50<r00t>apparently following this -> http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=140261%23p140261 was a bad idea
13:50<ompaul>!wifi
13:50<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
13:50<ompaul>!BCM4312
13:50<dpkg>The Broadcom BCM4312 (PCI ID 14e4:4315) is a PCIe 802.11g wireless LAN chipset with a low-power PHY. It is supported by the <b43> driver. Firmware is required, ask me about <contrib> and install the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package to provide. Alternatively supported by <wl>. PCI ID 14e4:4312 uses a BCM4311 chipset, which requires the firmware-b43-installer package instead. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
13:51<ompaul>r00t: given you did a bunch of stuff that's the bunch of stuff you should have done
13:51<r00t>already tried that bunch of stuff, didnt seem to help
13:51<r00t>internet conenction would still drop to 0 every ~1 min
13:51<ompaul>dropping might be distance from signal
13:52<ompaul>dropping might be bad chips
13:52<r00t>nope, used to work fine
13:52<ompaul>that is not module assistant
13:52<r00t>fresh install and everything goes to shit
13:52<ompaul>you still haven;t said what version of debian you are running
13:52<r00t>wheezy
13:52<pangolinrollin>7.8?
13:52<ompaul>uname -a output please
13:53<r00t>Linux 2Fast 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-586 #1 Debian 3.16.7-ckt4-3~bpo70+1 (2015-02-12) i686 GNU/Linux
13:53<SleepyHead>2fast2soon
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13:54<r00t>well, modprobe -r'd the crap they said in that crunchbang thread, ended up with noting working since module assistant wont build wl as an replacement
13:55<r00t>so.... FATAL: Module wl not found.
13:55<ompaul>what are you modprobing
13:56<r00t>https://wiki.debian.org/wl#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22
13:57<ompaul>what happens when you do that modprobe wl
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13:57<r00t><r00t> so.... FATAL: Module wl not found.
13:58<ompaul>r00t: and have you done this apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
13:58<r00t>yessir
13:58<r00t>firmware-b43-installer is already the newest version.
13:58<ompaul>but that assumes you have read the bcm43 page
13:58<ompaul>so you know if you have legacy or standard b43
13:59<ompaul>this stuff generally works
13:59<ompaul>if it doesn't age may be a factor
13:59<r00t>Building only for 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-586
13:59<r00t>Building initial module for 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-586
13:59<r00t>Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-586 (i686)
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13:59<r00t>might be why the assistant doesnt work
13:59<sigma>Hey guys i am having trouble
13:59<ompaul>maybe it needs to be the legacy you haven't given enough info
13:59<sigma>my mouse razer deathadder is way too fast
14:00<sigma>how do i reduce the dpi?
14:00<ompaul>again I say read the page in detail
14:00<ompaul>sigma: is there a switch on the mouse
14:00<sigma>no its the 2013 version
14:00<sigma>wich requires drivers supp
14:00<ompaul>so use your desktop settings
14:00<sigma>its working but way tooo fast
14:01<r00t>'xinput --set-prop "Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.7 Mouse" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 3'
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14:01<r00t>change the device name to yours ofc
14:01<sigma>il try that
14:02<r00t>xinput list to find the actual name of the mouse
14:02<sigma>xinput comand not found
14:02<r00t>lolwhat
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14:03<sigma>https://pastee.org/ukq9j
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14:03<ompaul>sigma: apt-cache search xinput might help you understand the problem
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14:04<r00t>ompaul -> https://pad.riseup.net/p/XqPNtnzq2oer
14:04<sigma>https://pastee.org/7h5g2
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14:04<sigma>gave me that the apt-cache
14:04<r00t>posted this earlier already.. :/
14:05<ompaul>For devices with a BCM4312 LP-PHY chip (PCI ID 14E4:4315), install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer:
14:05<ompaul>r00t: some of us were not on irc
14:05<ompaul>and that's on the page I referenced
14:05<ompaul>cos that's where I cut it and pasted it from ;-)
14:05<ompaul>https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
14:06<r00t>and im having trouble doing all this shit on this tiny shitty monitor while hugginh my router
14:06<r00t>For the 7th time, that package is already installed
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14:07<r00t>the modprobe packages are removed now though, no damn clue how to undo this bullshit
14:07<r00t>and my wifi is completely kill now
14:07<ompaul>rfkill
14:07<ompaul>and start it again
14:07<r00t>start what
14:07<ompaul>how long are you doing this?
14:08<r00t>doing what exactly
14:08<ompaul>this since post install
14:08<ompaul>the trying to get yourself configured
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14:08<r00t>reinstalled my system on... friday?
14:08<r00t>been fucking up since
14:08<r00t>never bothered trying to fix it but it had to be done
14:08<ompaul>right I don't need the additional adjectives
14:08<r00t>so about 3 hours now
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14:09<ompaul>I'm going to tell you something, I install / reinstall a thinkpad on a regular basis going between stable -> to unstable (because I' like beating myself up)
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14:10<ompaul>and I'd have the box in a working condition within 1.5 hours
14:10<r00t>There's the difference between you and me, i'd rather not make me kill myself
14:10<ompaul>so if you have the media, given it is so broken and now you know that wiki.debian.org has the data you need
14:10<r00t>This laptop has been doing this ever since i got it, every fresh install had the same issue
14:10<ompaul>I'm strongly hinting that if it doesn't work after a reboot and following
14:11<r00t>Still no clue how i managed to fix it before, just seemed to work after a while
14:11<ompaul>those instructions on the debian site do it again
14:11<ompaul>and this time don't use resources outside debian they don't seem to be your friends
14:11<r00t>it doesnt have the data though
14:11<r00t>the packages listed on there were already installed
14:11<ompaul>you have done something who knows what
14:12<r00t>I havent done anything
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14:12<r00t>That page was the first i fgoung
14:12<ompaul>and so you said you did
14:12<r00t>before playing with it
14:12<r00t>stuff was already present
14:12<r00t>yet problems were there
14:12<r00t>this wont fix it
14:12<ompaul>do the debian page
14:12<r00t>brb reboot then suicide, this is bulölshit
14:12<ompaul>have fun with that
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14:14<mtn>another satisfied customer
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14:15<r00t>still broken
14:15<r00t>if you could just tell me how to get those modprobe modules back that they made me remove
14:15<mtn>oops, I spoke too soon :(
14:15<ompaul>mtn: all yours :)
14:16<mtn>no way
14:16<mtn>!
14:16<ompaul>you follow the links on the following two pages
14:16<ompaul>!wifi
14:16<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
14:16<ompaul>!mcm43
14:16<ompaul>!bcm43
14:16<ompaul>meh
14:16<ompaul>!bcm4312
14:16<dpkg>The Broadcom BCM4312 (PCI ID 14e4:4315) is a PCIe 802.11g wireless LAN chipset with a low-power PHY. It is supported by the <b43> driver. Firmware is required, ask me about <contrib> and install the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package to provide. Alternatively supported by <wl>. PCI ID 14e4:4312 uses a BCM4311 chipset, which requires the firmware-b43-installer package instead. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
14:17<r00t>i did
14:17<ompaul>r00t: start on page one, then go to page to
14:17<r00t>the damn packages arent there though
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14:17<r00t>there is no wifi for me right now apparentlxy
14:17<ompaul>just do what it says
14:17<ompaul>and that's all I have to offer
14:17<mtn>seems to work for everyone else
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14:18<r00t>firmware-b43-installer
14:18<r00t>is already installed
14:18<ompaul>that's not what the4 page says
14:18<ompaul>read it again
14:18<r00t>it is
14:18<ompaul>use your own data
14:18<r00t>actually
14:19<ompaul>it says way more than that
14:19<r00t>Install the appropriate firmware installer package:
14:19<r00t>i dont have the legacy device
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14:19<ompaul>read the page http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx IN FULLL
14:19<ompaul>before you do anything
14:19<ompaul>because you are not seeing something
14:20<ompaul>mtn: why does crunchbang exist, is it to give broken information to users of debian?
14:20<mtn>ompaul: that seems like a good reason all by itself? :P
14:20<ompaul>hehe
14:21<ompaul>why does $downstream exist - insert foolish idea here
14:21<ompaul>that's what every project things
14:21<ompaul>that's what every project thinks
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14:23<WindOfNorth>Hello
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14:28<r00t>allright, that page still didnt help me
14:28<r00t>at all
14:28<r00t>tried reinstalling the package, reconfiguring, reboot, tried loading the stuff with modprobe
14:28<r00t>nothing, no wireless
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14:34<mikileilou>good evenening ^^
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14:38<r00t>ugh
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14:40<r00t>how the hell do i fix this bullshit now
14:40<r00t>jesus christ, i'm literally about to lose it
14:41<r00t>that wiki page doesnt help me one bit, no info on how to get those damn modules to run properly again
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14:43<r00t>so i'm supposed to reinstall this system just to end up with the same damn errors in an hour
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14:44<r00t>and have the whole configuration process all over again
14:44<mtn>r00t: reinstall debian and then follow the debian wiki. if you still can't get it working, ask here before you try something else
14:44<r00t>i did come here before doing other stuff though,, thats the thing
14:45<r00t>i went to that page, everything was already configured andinstalled as described on that wiki page
14:45<mtn>r00t: your other options are get a different wifi card or use a different distro
14:45<r00t>all i want right now is to undo the damn modprobe -r thing
14:45<mtn>r00t: no point in going over everything again.
14:46<r00t>my other card does the same thing
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14:46<r00t>im about to cry, not even joking
14:46<r00t>cant be that hard to just undo the damn thing
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14:47<r00t>jesus i'll live with the dropping bs until it magically fixes itself once again
14:47<r00t>but no wifi at all... fuck that
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14:47<r00t>i'd rather unload a clip in this laptop
14:48<mtn>r00t: please do. we don't care if you do or not.
14:48<r00t>i can tell
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14:48<r00t>see the thing is.. i reinstalled this pc 3 or 4 times over the weekend
14:49<mtn>r00t: why would we? you don't follow simple good advise. shrug
14:49<r00t>what advice, reinstialling and still not knowing what the issue is?
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14:49<r00t>i've been on that page
14:49<r00t>spent countless hours in IRC's
14:49<r00t>after every installation
14:50<mtn>r00t: why are you still here complaining? what do you expect?
14:50<r00t>i've had these problems for about 8 months now
14:50<mtn>r00t: go use a distro that works for you
14:50<Sicelo>:/
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15:01<Sicelo>r00t: have you tried maybe to figure out what you could be missing/overlooking from that page?
15:02<Sicelo>not that I know
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15:05<blast007>r00t: modprobe -r just unloads a module, it doesn't delete it from the system... did you try something as simple as rebooting to see if whatever module you unloaded then shows up in 'lsmod' again?
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16:01<excalibur>quien con kali linux
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16:04<ompaul>!kali
16:04<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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16:04<SleepyHead>!debian
16:04<dpkg>somebody said debian was http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
16:06<ompaul>!modules
16:06<dpkg>rumour has it, module is a driver for a device (a part of a kernel) which can be dynamically loaded/unloaded. Ask me about <modprobe>. To compile modules available in Debian module source packages, ask me about <dkms>, <module-assistant>. http://wiki.debian.org/Modules
16:06<ompaul>just sayin ...
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16:08<w55ka>Hey everyone!! i'm new here and would like to know how does one customize there UI
16:08<ompaul>w55ka: by using the tools attached to kde
16:09<w55ka>i'm using elementary OS .
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16:10<blast007>!elementary
16:10<dpkg>elementary OS is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu>. It is not supported in #debian; ask me about <based on debian>. http://elementaryos.org/ #elementary on irc.freenode.net.
16:10<SleepyHead>!based on debian
16:10<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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16:10<w55ka>So should i Intall Linux mint
16:11<SleepyHead>Pick a distroand learn it
16:11<blast007>w55ka: if you want support here, you need to run Debian. Otherwise you need to go to the channel for your distribution.
16:11<SleepyHead>Dick around with other distros via virtual machines.
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16:12<ompaul>and so it was that more of the same advice was given and ignored
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16:12<SleepyHead>hm?/
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16:12<r00t>Aye i'm back, still suicidal
16:12<SleepyHead>Why?
16:13<SleepyHead>!suicide
16:13*dpkg kills herself Juliet style, after seeing sleepyhead commit suicide
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16:13<r00t>Meh, internet still doesnt want to work like it should
16:13<ompaul>SleepyHead: invariably you will find that your suggestion to run Debian will be ignored
16:13<w55ka>i haven't ignore no ones advice but i appreciate the help and teachings
16:13<r00t>just reinstalled the whole thing
16:13<ompaul>r00t: here are three links I'm not getting into it
16:13<ompaul>!wifi
16:13<dpkg>Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
16:13<ompaul>!bcm4312
16:13<dpkg>The Broadcom BCM4312 (PCI ID 14e4:4315) is a PCIe 802.11g wireless LAN chipset with a low-power PHY. It is supported by the <b43> driver. Firmware is required, ask me about <contrib> and install the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer package to provide. Alternatively supported by <wl>. PCI ID 14e4:4312 uses a BCM4311 chipset, which requires the firmware-b43-installer package instead. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
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16:13<ompaul>!modules
16:13<dpkg>[module] a driver for a device (a part of a kernel) which can be dynamically loaded/unloaded. Ask me about <modprobe>. To compile modules available in Debian module source packages, ask me about <dkms>, <module-assistant>. http://wiki.debian.org/Modules
16:13<SleepyHead>ompaul: I don't care what he runs, as long as he learns it. It's not imporant to me what distro someone uses, as long as they attempt to be knowledgable on it.
16:14<ompaul>r00t: I stongly advice you read the pages before you act
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16:15<ompaul>SleepyHead: really I don't care what people run, I would prefer if they ran it correctly. ;-)
16:15<w55ka>Thats true SleepyHead and thanks ompaul i would like to know what is the best distro
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16:15<ompaul>w55ka: you are in a technical support channel for debian - what do you really think we are going to say
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16:15<w55ka>LOL ,, im going to install debian and be back
16:16<r00t>Guess what, already read those pages
16:16<r00t>twice actually
16:16<ompaul>r00t: including the modules one ...
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16:16<ompaul>r00t: then I would blame the hardware
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16:17<ompaul>r00t: find your local linux user group and find someone who will take payment or help for free
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16:17<w55ka>i had a problem with mint and i couldn't boot
16:17<ompaul>we can't do more than we are suggesting
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16:17<r00t>The thing that bothers me is that it just seemed to work after a while, this isnt how linux is supposed to work lol
16:18<ompaul>r00t: well you did use pages from some other $distro
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16:18<r00t>Wifi adapters that wear in and start to wor kafter 2 weeks, very odd
16:18<ompaul>you have been shown how it works for others
16:18<ompaul>there is nothing more I can add on this subject
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16:19<SleepyHead>Wifi's always been spotty, especially in debian in my experience. You need to research hardware compatability before making the jump
16:19<w55ka>i have a older laptop dell latitude d620 something slight what is the correct destro to instlal 32 bit or 64 bit
16:19<SleepyHead>It's a lesson you'll learn the hard way.
16:19<SleepyHead>!latitude d620
16:19<SleepyHead>Damn, can't believe that didn't work.
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16:19<w55ka>yes lol pretty old
16:19<SleepyHead>w55ka, Google it
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16:20<blast007>SleepyHead: the bot works via /msg as well if you're curious about factoids
16:20<SleepyHead>Thanks
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16:27<blast007>w55ka: it looks like that model had choices of both 32 and 64 bit processors (though a 32-bit install also works on a 64-bit processor), so you'd have to check which specific processor you have in there if you want to know if it can do 64-bit.
16:27<blast007>ack, they left..
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16:28<SleepyHead>Load into the bios
16:29<SleepyHead>Most BIOS have the processor bandwidth :P
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16:53<abdelkhalak>msg dpkg jessie freeze
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16:59<david-e>successfully installed debian lenny on a VM and trying (no success so far) to rebuild a live CD with live-helper. lh_configs immediately quits with no output
17:00<peter1138>Lenny, wow...
17:00<david-e>yes
17:00<david-e>need to work on a very old project
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17:01<david-e>strace was not too helpful to figure out what's wrong
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17:05<jhutchins>david-e: Is the disk writable by the VM?
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17:06<david-e>jhutchins: "touch foo" works
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17:10<david-e>looks like there's no "--verbose" option. the script I'm running did work back then... I thought the only difference is that now lenny is "oldstable"
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17:11<david-e>so I tried to change --mirror-bootstrap , --mirror-chroot , --mirror-binary
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17:12<david-e>all set to "http://archive.debian.org/debian/" . and also set "-d lenny" . no success.
17:13<ompaul>df -h
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17:13<ompaul>david-e: ^^
17:13<david-e>/dev/sda1 7,5G 740M 6,4G 11% /
17:13<ompaul>david-e: paste.debian.net please
17:13<david-e>ompaul: I think should be enough
17:13<david-e>ok
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17:14<ompaul>apt-get update does what on that box?
17:14<david-e>ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/160445/
17:15<david-e>ompaul: I did update successfully using http://archive.debian.org/debian/ in /sources.list
17:15<ompaul>no swap
17:15<ompaul>and
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17:15<ompaul>no errors on it now?
17:15<david-e>ompaul: I'm not that fast :)
17:15<ompaul>apt-get update
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17:16<SrslyJosh>Hey folks...I've got a squeeze-lts host that can't seem to find the iptables-persistent package. According to packages.debian.org, it's in squeeze. Any ideas why apt-get/aptitude can't find it?
17:16<david-e>ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/160447/
17:17<david-e>ompaul: let me set swap
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17:17<peter1138>SrslyJosh, have you still got the squeeze sources in?
17:17<ompaul>deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main <<<< david-e
17:18<SrslyJosh>peter1138: Yes: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main contrib non-free
17:18<ompaul>david-e: not that it means much no security updates since 2012 - so it's wide open to abuse from outside
17:18<david-e>ompaul: cheers
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17:19<peter1138>SrslyJosh, that's a squeeze-lts source, not squeeze.
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17:19<peter1138>squeeze-lts supplements squeeze, it doesn't replace it.
17:19<SrslyJosh>peter1138: Ah, my bad. When I updated this box, I thought that -lts was inclusive.
17:21<SrslyJosh>peter1138: Thanks, problem solved!
17:21<peter1138>:)
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17:31<david-e>ompaul: I _think_ swap is now activated (http://paste.debian.net/160456/). still no luck
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17:32<ompaul>david-e: what does mount say
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17:34<david-e>ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/160461/
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18:09<Kiranos>I have nfs share and when the client looses connection but remounts it again df -h still says:
18:09<Kiranos>root@www:~# df -h
18:09<Kiranos>df: `/shared/media (deleted)': No such file or directory
18:10<Kiranos>and uid/guid for the mounted share is all wrong
18:10<Kiranos>is that a known issue?
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18:10<Kiranos>-rw-rw-rw- 1 4294967294 4294967294 194720 Mar 9 08:32 53734644cf8e14f.css
18:10<Kiranos>-rw-rw-rw- 1 4294967294 4294967294 189513 Mar 9 08:32 6471eaff38ca891.css
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18:10<Kiranos>istead of correct uid/guid
18:10<Kiranos>after reboot all is fine agian
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18:58<mdik>how would i craft an -(i)name argument to find to find .html as well as .txt files?
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19:01<dondelelcaro>mdik: \( -iname '*.html' -o -iname '*.txt' \)
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19:02<dondelelcaro>(note that the \( is just for shell escaping; if you don't need to worry about that, don't escape them)
19:02<mdik>ok. i didn't expect that. thank you, dondelelcaro
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19:04<mdik>(and there is nothing shorter like -iname "*{html,pdf}"?
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19:05<dondelelcaro>if you want something like that, use -iregex
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19:07<dondelelcaro>ls
19:07<dondelelcaro>hrm; that's not going to work
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19:08<mdik>i need to sleep on that
19:08<mdik>good night
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19:11<Wiz>Does anyone know how to update the BIOS on Dell Poweredge Systems now that they have removed the bios REPO? I wrote this several years ago to update the bios remotely, but now it seems to be outdated https://wxprofessor.wordpress.com/2012/11/06/upgrading-dell-poweredge-bios/ I’ve tried extracting the bios.hdr from the windows executable they let you download from dell, but have not had success yet.
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19:11<Wiz>i guess getting the header out of the windows exe dell gives you is the hard pat
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19:12*SamB_laptop grumbles about xfce suddenly failing to start ...
19:13<SamB_laptop>in particular, the panel is missing :-(
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19:26<SamB_laptop>oh, hmm, it looks like that has to be in the session or something???
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21:27<jems>hey, i need some hints on how to package software with dh_make /dpkg-buildpackage if the software uses cmake, can you point me to something i can read?
21:27<abrotman>dpkg: tell jems about mentors
21:27<jems>thanks
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21:32<AlexLikerock>were can i found boot's LOG ?
21:32<AlexLikerock>whit this shit (SystemD)
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21:34<AlexLikerock>hellow
21:34<AlexLikerock>abrotman,
21:34<AlexLikerock>do you now ?
21:34<AlexLikerock>mike_,
21:35<abrotman>AlexLikerock: Please stop highlighting people
21:35<AlexLikerock>ok
21:35<abrotman>AlexLikerock: systemd has plenty of documentation, have you read any of it?
21:35<AlexLikerock>i do , because you are my friend
21:35<abrotman>Have a good night
21:35<AlexLikerock>its alot documentacion
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21:52<CroneX>Ola
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21:54<CroneX>Hello!
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22:00<devrikx>CroneX: Hello!
22:00<CroneX>Hi!
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22:03<Finetundra>hello, I recently removed KDE however the cursor theme seems to remain. How do I fix this?
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22:19<lostson>apt-get remove oxygencursors
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22:37<jpinx>Finetundra: ask dpkg for details - /msg dpkg remove kde
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22:42<Finetundra>jpinx, lostson 's advice worked. I do wonder why that was left though.
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23:53<Aslan_Richman>Goodnight room
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