| --- | Log | opened Tue Mar 10 00:00:13 2015 |
| --- | Day | changed Tue Mar 10 2015 |
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| 00:52 | <sleser> | guys is it posible to use an wireles keyboard mouse eye with ps3 wireles remote / |
| 00:52 | <sleser> | ? |
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| 00:57 | <SleepyHead> | sleser what's that have to do with debian? |
| 00:58 | <sleser> | totaly nothing to do with debian |
| 00:58 | <sleser> | was just wondering if eye of a wireles keyboard mouse was universal |
| 00:59 | <SamB_laptop> | I don't even understand the question |
| 01:00 | <sleser> | nm |
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| 03:51 | <arch> | hi, guys, I'm trying to configure bridge by brctl in my virtual linux machine. I've set up interfaces like here https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Configuring_bridging_in_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces with static ip. restarted network, ifconfig shows right setting in br0, but when I try to ping 192.168.1.1 it types "destination host unreachable". |
| 03:51 | <arch> | what I did wrong? should I enable some options in kernel? |
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| 03:59 | <jm_> | arch: and those settings are correct for you environment? |
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| 04:01 | <arch> | setting, which I typed to br0 in interfaces are working, if I disable bridging and type them to eth0 |
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| 04:03 | <arch> | if i type ifconfig it shows only lo & br0, without eth0, eth1 is it normal? |
| 04:04 | <jm_> | I have a slightly different setup (with only one ethernet interface) and ifconfig of course shows eth0 because it needs to be in state UP |
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| 04:11 | <arch> | jm_: hm.... I just restarted network again, and eth0 & eth1 have raised. but problem remained |
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| 05:45 | <sj13> | Hi @OdyX, you there? |
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| 06:16 | <OdyX> | sj13 not staying online long enough, resorting to Twitter. *sigh* |
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| 07:10 | <root> | hello all! Does anyone know if there is a specific IRC chat for Raspberry Pis? |
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| 07:11 | <Benberrypi> | Do people actually chat in irc chats anymore ? ;) |
| 07:12 | <aborrero> | I think so :-) |
| 07:12 | <Benberrypi> | ah someone! heh |
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| 07:12 | <Benberrypi> | it's just the last few times I've been in irc chats there are always a ton of people and no one conversing |
| 07:12 | <jm_> | !tell Benberrypi -about rpi |
| 07:12 | <jm_> | this is not a chat channel, for that we have #debian-offtopic |
| 07:13 | <Benberrypi> | ah, this is for debian support only? |
| 07:13 | <jm_> | yes |
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| 07:13 | <Benberrypi> | I'd ask a question about my Debian VM I'm having problems yet, but I haven't yet narrowed down whether I am breaking Debian, or it is a something to do with virtual box |
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| 07:14 | <Benberrypi> | I'll mess around further before I bother you guys :P |
| 07:15 | <jm_> | adding more details might help someone to clarify it for you |
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| 07:18 | <Benberrypi> | sorry, unplugged my keyboard accidently |
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| 07:19 | <Benberrypi> | uh, well, I've loaded Debian in a virtual machine in virtual box, and after installing a few programs from the repositories like chromium/pidgin, I've rebooted it only after entering my encryption passphrase, I get a command line interface |
| 07:20 | <Benberrypi> | startx starts to act like it's doing something, but then after a minute I get the "whoops we've had a problem" screen |
| 07:20 | <Benberrypi> | clicking log out and logging back in merely repeats the process |
| 07:20 | <jm_> | look in X logfile /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 07:21 | <Benberrypi> | so, since I was too stupid to back up the virtual hard drive, and spending forever letting it format an imaginary disk, I backed it up right after installation, and after installing one program and rebooting I got the same error |
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| 07:22 | <jm_> | and also make sure you install vbox guest utils in it |
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| 07:22 | <jm_> | guest additions or whatever they call it |
| 07:23 | <Benberrypi> | ah, wasn't aware there was something for making Debian play nice with it, I'll check it out. I was treating it like it was just any old computer and not paying attention that there may be something specific I need to do differently |
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| 07:24 | <jm_> | virtualbox-guest-x11 or virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 depending on which one you have installed |
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| 07:25 | <Benberrypi> | it is VirtualBox Graphical User Interface Version r |
| 07:25 | <Benberrypi> | r96997 |
| 07:25 | <Benberrypi> | I should have mentioned that it is running on windows :-) |
| 07:26 | <jm_> | in that case use the vbox guest additions iso to have a matching version and install it from there |
| 07:26 | <jm_> | device -> insert guest additions cdrom is what I see here in the GUI |
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| 07:28 | <Benberrypi> | I should also mention the Debian version is Debian 7.7.0 for AMD64 |
| 07:28 | <jm_> | yeah that's ok |
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| 07:28 | <Benberrypi> | by matching version, you mean matching to what? |
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| 07:30 | <Benberrypi> | and I see in the repositories I see a few things virtualbox-guest-source/cirtualbox-guest-utils/virtualbox-guest-xll and virtualbox-ose-guest-utils |
| 07:30 | <Benberrypi> | butchered that sentence lol |
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| 07:31 | <jm_> | matching vbox windows installation |
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| 07:32 | <Benberrypi> | virtualbox-guest-source - x86 virtualization solution - guest addition module source |
| 07:32 | <Benberrypi> | virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms - transitional package for virtualbox-guest-dkms |
| 07:32 | <Benberrypi> | virtualbox-ose-guest-source - transitional package for virtualbox-guest-source |
| 07:32 | <Benberrypi> | virtualbox-ose-guest-utils - transitional package for virtualbox-guest-utils |
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| 07:33 | <Benberrypi> | gee, it asked me if I wanted to paste or not, didn't warn me that would be a problem! |
| 07:33 | <Benberrypi> | guess I know better now |
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| 07:36 | <Benberrypi> | well the guest utils it installed are 4.1.18, so there are guest-utils that match the 4.3.20 or do I just need to find 4.3? |
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| 07:37 | <jm_> | like I said, I would grab guest additions iso that matches your windows vbox version, try Devices -> Insert Guest ... |
| 07:39 | <Benberrypi> | sorry if I'm pretty ignorant, try that where? |
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| 07:40 | <jm_> | don't you have Devices menu in windows vbox gui window where debian vm is running? |
| 07:40 | <Benberrypi> | oops, yeah, sorry, I was looking at the main virtualbox screen |
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| 07:41 | <Benberrypi> | it said error auto-running program, can not find autorun |
| 07:43 | <jm_> | try to mount it manually in debian |
| 07:45 | <Benberrypi> | it won't even pop anything up now, will I need to go to virtualbox's website or Debian's to find the actual guest utils ISO? |
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| 07:45 | <Benberrypi> | I assume virtualbox right? |
| 07:45 | <jm_> | yeah vbox -> downloads |
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| 07:47 | <Benberrypi> | yeah, I definitely should have checked out their wiki/manual, cause now I see the Status: Works.... with additions :D |
| 07:48 | <jm_> | the user manual says the iso is part of the installation |
| 07:48 | <jm_> | see https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp95702144 |
| 07:49 | <jm_> | if you need help with vbox in windows try #vbox on irc.freenode.net, for the debian part we can contiune here |
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| 07:50 | <Benberrypi> | well I think you pointing me in the direction that there are additions needed for it to run stable is probably going to do it! I'll check them out if I need more help configuring it further |
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| 07:51 | <jm_> | it's only a matter of mounting the CD in debian and running the installer |
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| 07:52 | <Benberrypi> | yeah, I haven't mounted anything in Debian yet but I'm sure I can figure it out if not by myself then with some documentation |
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| 07:52 | <Benberrypi> | I appreciate you taking the time to offer me help a whole lot! |
| 07:53 | <jm_> | normally it would be just mount /media/cdrom0 or maybe cdrom1 |
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| 08:17 | <BenBerryPi> | "In Debian Linux and derivatives armhf (ARM hard float) refers to the ARMv7 architecture " |
| 08:18 | <BenBerryPi> | does this mean that Debian will run on Armv7? |
| 08:19 | <jm_> | installation manual documents supported hardware |
| 08:19 | <themill> | BenBerryPi: you need to find a kernel for the hardware though |
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| 08:21 | <BenBerryPi> | yeah I looked through the chart in supported hardware, unless I'm looking at the wrong place, but I haven't a clue what ARM Vs. ARM with hardware FPU means |
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| 08:23 | <jm_> | if you are asking if debian runs on rpi then it does |
| 08:24 | <BenBerryPi> | so I looked up what armh was, and though I'm still confused I found that line in the wiki article about that referring to Armv7, I guess my only question is does that mean it is possible some one will eventually make a Debian version that supports the new Raspberry PI2 which has a new quad core ArmV7 chip |
| 08:24 | <BenBerryPi> | instead of Raspian |
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| 08:25 | <BenBerryPi> | or you mean that you can already load Debian on the Pi? |
| 08:25 | <jm_> | BenBerryPi http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/ |
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| 08:26 | <BenBerryPi> | ah, cool, already there! I was just curious, I'm sticking to Raspian and learning Debian for my main OS eventually |
| 08:27 | <BenBerryPi> | well I mean switching to it as my only OS, thanks for the information and the help! It is most thoroughly appreciated! |
| 08:28 | <jm_> | enjoy |
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| 10:01 | <lanoxx> | Hi all |
| 10:02 | <lanoxx> | I have been reading about systemd and it being the default starting with jessie. I have been experimenting with a debian-unstable install for a few days and I noticed that init scripts in /etc/init.d/* are still largely present, somehow I was expecting not to see any of those scripts. So my question is where can I read more about the systemd migration in debian? |
| 10:03 | <OdyX> | lanoxx: in the release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#systemd-upgrade-default-init-system |
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| 10:03 | <OdyX> | !systemd |
| 10:03 | <dpkg> | systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd is shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and will be be the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". https://wiki.debian.org/systemd #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. See also <why systemd>. |
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| 10:05 | <Brigo> | lanoxx, packages install systemv scripts (in /etc/init.d/) and systemd units allways so you can run both init systems whenever you want. |
| 10:06 | <lanoxx> | thanks for all the pointers. One more thing: I found this question on unix.SO: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/115231/how-to-replace-sysvinit-with-systemd-in-debian/115239#115239 which indicates that jessie will use systemd in some kind of compatibility mode, where can i find more information about this compatiblity mode? |
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| 10:09 | <Brigo> | lanoxx, it mean that systemd look at /etc/init.d/ and generates unit files for those scripts if there isn't yet a unit file for that service. |
| 10:10 | <lanoxx> | Brigo, so do unit files always take precedence over those init scripts? And can i just ignore the scripts then? |
| 10:11 | <Brigo> | lanoxx, yes, if the unit is present systemd will use it and the /etc/init.d/ scripts will be useless. |
| 10:13 | <lanoxx> | Brigo, i see. Is the symlink between /sbin/init and /lib/systemd/systemd also something that exists for compatibility? |
| 10:14 | <Brigo> | more or less, kernel will search for /sbin/init at boot time (it use to be de default configuration in boot manager). |
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| 10:30 | <sj13> | \quit |
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| 10:31 | <OdyX> | Damn. Can't get to catch her |
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| 10:42 | <jack> | 这么多人？ |
| 10:42 | <jack> | 还能显示中文 |
| 10:42 | <jack> | test |
| 10:43 | <petn-randall> | !cn |
| 10:43 | <dpkg> | 如果您想要得到中文的協助，請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道，加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號)，謝謝您的合作! |
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| 10:43 | <petn-randall> | jack: See above. This is an english-only channel. |
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| 11:14 | <miguel> | www.hotmail.com |
| 11:14 | <miguel> | miguel |
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| 12:19 | <m4st3r> | Hi there |
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| 13:02 | <GuilainC> | Dear all, I'm looking for to buy a new laptop, and as a debian fan(atic) since 1999 as a simple user, this next laptop should run under debian too :) |
| 13:03 | <GuilainC> | I'm really love the lenovo Yoga 2, 2 Pro and Thinkpad yoga 15 |
| 13:03 | <GuilainC> | the question is what's the actual support of these laptop in debian |
| 13:03 | <pangolinrollin> | I personally have bought from and recommend http://www.system76.com .. comes preloaded with ubuntu and is an hour away from debian ( what i'm running on mine ;) ) |
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| 13:04 | * | GuilainC take a look |
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| 13:05 | <GuilainC> | thanks pangolinrollin, little precision, I'm in Europe, close to the Eiffel Tower (Paris) |
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| 13:06 | <pangolinrollin> | I see.. hope they have international shipping :P lol |
| 13:06 | <pangolinrollin> | sorry |
| 13:06 | <pangolinrollin> | actually my name is because I bought the "pangolin" model laptop to dev on :P |
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| 13:11 | <Colloguy> | is there a combination wifi/bluetooth card with free firmware that fits in a NGFF slot? |
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| 13:15 | <valdyn> | Atheros QCNFA222 NGFF 802.11a/b/g/n 2.4GHz/5GHz + BT 4.0 WiFi Card ? |
| 13:15 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: that seems to fit |
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| 13:16 | <Colloguy> | is "AR5BWB222" the chipset? |
| 13:16 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: no |
| 13:17 | <Colloguy> | I'm using this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_wireless_drivers does your card fall under the ath9k entry, which I read as "any atheros card with 802.11n support"? |
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| 13:19 | <Ghostxmaster4> | hello |
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| 13:20 | <Ghostxmaster4> | what does debian servers mean???? |
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| 13:20 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: I dont know the card, im just googling. SO i dont know *which* atheros chip this is |
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| 13:20 | <centrx> | Ghostxmaster4, Debian is an operating system for computers. Some computers act as servers, serving services to other computers. |
| 13:20 | <Ghostxmaster4> | ok thanks |
| 13:21 | <blast007> | Colloguy: seeing it mentioned that it has an AR9462 chipset |
| 13:21 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: for all i know, "free firmware" limits your choice to atheros anyway |
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| 13:22 | <Colloguy> | valdyn: yeah, and to only select atheros cards at that |
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| 13:23 | <blast007> | that chipset is mentioned on the ath9k site |
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| 13:23 | <valdyn> | well, the wlan side is supported. I have no idea about the bt4.0 |
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| 13:24 | <Colloguy> | blast007: i see it there too, but I seem to have trouble finding out the chipset of products on the market, like the one valdyn mentioned |
| 13:24 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Qualcomm_Atheros_QCNFA222 |
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| 13:26 | <Colloguy> | sweet |
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| 13:27 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: some atheros firmware is free, some is not |
| 13:27 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: but at this point you probably dont have a choice |
| 13:27 | <pi> | hi |
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| 13:28 | * | pangolinrollin eats non-free for breakfast |
| 13:29 | <pi> | i am new at this can some one tell me how do i set up my nick and/or change it after |
| 13:30 | <blast007> | pi: /nick NewNickhere (as for configuring your client, you'd have to read the documentation) |
| 13:30 | <babirusa> | use the command "/set nick yourdesirednick" |
| 13:30 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: wikipedia claims that this chip does not need a firmware at all |
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| 13:31 | <Colloguy> | valdyn: yeah, in that table I linked, the ath9k row, right? |
| 13:31 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: yes |
| 13:33 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: I think this chip is the best option, even outside free/non-free considerations |
| 13:33 | <Colloguy> | could you summarize why? I'm a newbie at selecting wifi cards |
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| 13:35 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: everything you can do with wlan you can do with this chip. Everything can join a wlan network. This one can sniff traffic or be an access point or whaterver has any support in linux at all |
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| 13:35 | <blast007> | Colloguy: do you know if the system you intend to put it into restricts which devices it will allow? |
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| 13:36 | <Colloguy> | it will probably be a dell refurb xps 15, I don't think dell uses whitelists |
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| 13:37 | <Colloguy> | I'll be "downgrading" from the stock 802.11ac card, hopefully that isn't an issue... |
| 13:38 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: if you want to stick to ac then you need an ath10k card. Im not sure it exists. |
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| 13:39 | <Colloguy> | its an intel wifi card I'm downgrading from, and according to the table Ath10k cards have nonfree firmware |
| 13:39 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: yes, same as intel |
| 13:39 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: why would you drop the intel though? |
| 13:39 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: (only b/c of the firmware?) |
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| 13:40 | <Colloguy> | yeah, and I don't care about the speed, and you said the replacement card is full-featured, and that's all I care about |
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| 13:41 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: intel has excellent drivers. But the functionality is (or used to be) restricted and firmware is non-free. |
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| 13:42 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: iwlwifi supports all but mesh, so i would think again if free firmware is that important to you |
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| 13:42 | <Colloguy> | "all but mesh"? |
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| 13:43 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: I havent used mesh. Its typically a network where each member acts as an access point for everyone else. |
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| 13:44 | <valdyn> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_mesh_network |
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| 13:46 | <valdyn> | Colloguy: without mesh support this is just done using 2 wlan interfaces. I don't know where this is used in the real world. |
| 13:46 | <Colloguy> | it's just a wifi card, so my primary concern is firmware; it's speed or other characteristic don't really impact me much |
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| 13:51 | <Colloguy> | thanks alot valdyn! |
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| 14:24 | <mvalley1978> | zorin os |
| 14:24 | <mvalley1978> | is this the room for zorin os |
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| 14:27 | <Maulkin> | !zorin |
| 14:27 | <dpkg> | Zorin OS is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu>. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.zorin-os.com/ #zorinos on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 14:30 | <pangolinrollin> | fuck zorin.. ^ are you serious? |
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| 14:44 | <klandri> | sup guys I just tried to install Debian 7.8 Wheezy full installation using the big DVD iso(s) and I can't launch Gnome |
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| 14:44 | <klandri> | it is installed |
| 14:45 | <klandri> | according to apt-get but won't start |
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| 14:45 | <klandri> | I'm stuck in the terminal |
| 14:45 | <musca> | hello klandri |
| 14:46 | <klandri> | hi |
| 14:46 | <musca> | which graphics card do you use? |
| 14:46 | <klandri> | let me check |
| 14:46 | <musca> | lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 14:47 | <klandri> | some intel integrated graphics driver |
| 14:47 | <klandri> | Valleyview Gen7 |
| 14:47 | <klandri> | cheap laptop |
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| 14:47 | <klandri> | also I should note I don't have an internet connection as of yet |
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| 14:47 | <klandri> | which is why I used the big isos |
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| 14:49 | <musca> | ok. most intel graphics will work ootb, but for some the situation is bad: PowerVR-based intel GMA500 (often found in cheap laptops) |
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| 14:50 | <mtn> | klandri: what happens when you try to start gnome? errors? warnings? |
| 14:50 | <klandri> | when I run startx I get |
| 14:50 | <klandri> | Fatal server error: |
| 14:50 | <klandri> | no screens found |
| 14:51 | <klandri> | googled that but found nothing useful |
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| 14:51 | <mtn> | klandri: is gdm installed? |
| 14:52 | <klandri> | gdm3 |
| 14:52 | <klandri> | yes |
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| 14:52 | <mtn> | klandri: what happens when you boot? where does it stop? |
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| 14:53 | <klandri> | first I get some uefi message asking if I want to enter Debian or Debian recovery mode then I'm directly booted into a terminal |
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| 14:53 | <klandri> | that asks for encryption key |
| 14:53 | <klandri> | then alt-f1 to log in |
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| 14:53 | <klandri> | and I'm in the bash terminal |
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| 14:55 | <mtn> | klandri: that sounds like another problem besides graphics to me, but not sure what |
| 14:57 | <klandri> | when I try 'service gdm3 start' I get '[FAIL] Starting GNOME Display Manager: gdm3 failed!' |
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| 15:07 | <dargav> | hello |
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| 15:07 | <dargav> | wondering if anyone can help with exim config issue or direct me to debian exim channel |
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| 15:08 | <valdyn> | !tell dargav -about ask |
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| 15:09 | <dargav> | I am tryign to figure out where to place acl_mail_from: in the config? |
| 15:09 | <dargav> | is it conf.d/acl/30_exim4-config_check_rcpt ? |
| 15:09 | <dargav> | trying to implement http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-access_control_lists.html |
| 15:10 | <valdyn> | dargav: how about exim4.conf.localmacros ? |
| 15:10 | <dargav> | i am on 6.0.10 |
| 15:10 | <dargav> | ok. i can check |
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| 15:11 | <dargav> | i will try that. thanks |
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| 15:13 | <Male> | Hola |
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| 15:17 | <Male> | hola |
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| 15:29 | <Wulf> | hi |
| 15:30 | <Wulf> | how can I find out what happened to the libphash0 package? Why is not no longer available in sid? |
| 15:33 | <centrx> | Wulf, packages.qa.debian.org/libphash0 will eventually get you to: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751916 |
| 15:33 | <Wulf> | centrx: thanks! |
| 15:33 | <Wulf> | so if I still need it, I have to package it myself? |
| 15:34 | <centrx> | Wulf, You can try the old version from http://snapshot.debian.org/ |
| 15:34 | <Wulf> | I also would like to use the most current upstream version |
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| 15:35 | <centrx> | ok yeah, you'll have to build that yourself |
| 15:35 | <centrx> | If they have a good Debian repository set up you can use that |
| 15:35 | <Wulf> | centrx: it's a dead project |
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| 15:35 | <Wulf> | but one of my users wants to use that lib |
| 15:36 | <Lightkey> | "Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found." that's a first |
| 15:37 | <centrx> | Wulf, Download the source and build it into /usr/local or a .deb package |
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| 15:41 | <Lightkey> | oh, it was libjpeg-progs.. purge |
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| 15:54 | <Lightkey> | abrotman, valdyn: someone else asked already, that's the answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=772890#27 |
| 15:54 | * | abrotman blinks ... |
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| 16:56 | <archie> | hey |
| 16:56 | <retrospectacus> | hi archie |
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| 16:56 | <archie> | sorry i dont realy know where i am? |
| 16:57 | <retrospectacus> | archie: you're in the debian support channel |
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| 16:57 | <retrospectacus> | if you have a Debian support channel, just ask! |
| 16:57 | <Lightkey> | somewhere in the solar system |
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| 16:58 | <archie> | it ' s a kind of forum? subject : jessie freeze? |
| 16:58 | <retrospectacus> | a chat room |
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| 16:59 | <centrx> | Topic is a variety of different information |
| 16:59 | <archie> | you are the moderator? |
| 16:59 | <centrx> | This is the real Internet you are on right now |
| 16:59 | <centrx> | I am a robot from the future |
| 16:59 | <retrospectacus> | archie: there are moderators,but I am not |
| 17:00 | <archie> | you' re talking about technical things or everything? sorry i m new!!! |
| 17:01 | <centrx> | Mainly questions about using Debian |
| 17:01 | <archie> | sorry for my english, i' m french |
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| 17:01 | <centrx> | There are many channels and many networks |
| 17:01 | <retrospectacus> | this channel (room) is Debian support. There are other channels for general chat, e.g. #moocows or #debian-offtopic |
| 17:02 | <archie> | If i got problems with my config, i can ask here for that? |
| 17:03 | <centrx> | !ask |
| 17:03 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 17:05 | <archie> | it s perfect! i and many questions |
| 17:06 | <retrospectacus> | please do. |
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| 17:17 | <adamaze> | im using rsnapshot in debian, and some googling led me to try rsnapshot-diff with the "-s" option, but it doesnt look like that is included in my version |
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| 17:17 | <adamaze> | i see it in this changelog: http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/DCANTRELL/App-Rsnapshot-1.999_00002/ChangeLog |
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| 17:18 | <adamaze> | but im not sure if that is official or what... |
| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | judd: file bin/rsnapshot-diff |
| 17:18 | <judd> | Search for bin/rsnapshot-diff in wheezy/i386: rsnapshot: usr/bin/rsnapshot-diff |
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| 17:18 | <retrospectacus> | adamaze: if you're on wheezy, it should be there |
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| 17:19 | <retrospectacus> | ,v rsnapshot |
| 17:19 | <judd> | Package: rsnapshot on i386 -- squeeze: 1.3.1-1; wheezy: 1.3.1-3; jessie: 1.3.1-4; sid: 1.3.1-6 |
| 17:19 | <adamaze> | i am indeed on wheezy |
| 17:19 | <retrospectacus> | I see, you want the -s option but it is not in 1.3.1 |
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| 17:20 | <adamaze> | retrospectacus: so in that changelog i linked to, the "x" in 1.3.x says that it is unreleased? |
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| 17:21 | <retrospectacus> | I guess so |
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| 17:24 | <retrospectacus> | adamaze: if you really need it you can apply the patch linked to the rsnapshot-diff binary |
| 17:25 | <adamaze> | the rsnapshot.org site is a bit barren, could you point me in the right direction to get official rsnapshot stuff? |
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| 17:27 | <retrospectacus> | what are you looking for? |
| 17:27 | <adamaze> | i guess im not really sure... i have never had to try and dive this deep :-P |
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| 17:28 | <retrospectacus> | adamaze: on the link you posted, there is a reference to a mailing list. Go there |
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| 17:28 | <retrospectacus> | adamaze: the first reply includes a patch to enable -s function |
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| 17:29 | <retrospectacus> | adamaze: open that file; it is a "diff" describing the patch. You may apply it to /usr/bin/rsnapshot-diff which is a perl script |
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| 17:30 | <retrospectacus> | you can apply the diff using then "patch" command or do it manually with your favourite editor |
| 17:30 | <adamaze> | awesome |
| 17:31 | <adamaze> | follow up question: what might be a reason that after 6ish years, this hasn't made it into rsnapshot officially? |
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| 17:32 | <jhutchins> | adamaze: Because developers. |
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| 17:33 | <adamaze> | from what i can tell here, the issue is in the rsnapshot developers court, as the debian maintainers have been doing a good job? |
| 17:34 | <retrospectacus> | looks like it. |
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| 17:36 | <adamaze> | retrospectacus: thanks for the help! |
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| 17:37 | <retrospectacus> | anytime |
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| 17:55 | <adamaze> | retrospectacus: just finished patching and testing rsnapshot-diff from that mailing list. it was much easier than i thought. thanks again! |
| 17:55 | <retrospectacus> | nice work :) |
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| 18:04 | <knoppix_> | Anyone running Knoppix? |
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| 18:05 | <Guest566> | Anyone running Knoppix |
| 18:05 | <peter1138> | Possibly not in #debian |
| 18:05 | <Guest566> | Are people running debian from a bootable persistant USB? |
| 18:06 | <Guest566> | That is how I have knoppix |
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| 18:31 | <Jobbe> | Is compiz removed from jessie ? |
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| 18:37 | <Brigo> | Jobbe, yes and form wheezy |
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| 18:51 | <asklepian> | so, unfortunately, the debian DVD images come as DVD1, DVD2, DVD3 |
| 18:52 | <asklepian> | how do I use these when attempting to do an install using a USB drive? |
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| 18:52 | <asklepian> | also, how do I install my wireless drivers without internet access? |
| 18:52 | <Wulf> | asklepian: can't you use netinst? |
| 18:53 | <asklepian> | nope |
| 18:53 | <asklepian> | only wifi |
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| 18:53 | <Wulf> | asklepian: then boot the netinst image from usb or so |
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| 18:53 | <asklepian> | no. internet. |
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| 18:54 | <asklepian> | only wi-fi |
| 18:54 | <Wulf> | wi-fi is not internet? |
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| 18:54 | <Wulf> | asklepian: anyway. Do you need more than DVD1? |
| 18:54 | <asklepian> | I can't use the internet because I need to install the appropriate drivers, which requires the internet, which requires the drivers... |
| 18:55 | <Wulf> | put the drivers in the netinst image ;) |
| 18:55 | <asklepian> | how? |
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| 18:55 | <Wulf> | get the kernel module from somewhere, copy it to the image, insmod it. I'm sure there are cleaner ways, but that one should work |
| 18:56 | <asklepian> | insmod? |
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| 18:56 | <asklepian> | consider me a fast-learning newb |
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| 18:57 | <Brigo> | asklepian, download netinstall debian image from cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 18:58 | <Brigo> | it will add the wifi firmware that you need and install from it. |
| 18:58 | <Wulf> | oh, that sounds good. |
| 18:58 | <Wulf> | asklepian: what Brigo said. |
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| 19:00 | <asklepian> | how does it know what wifi firmware I need? |
| 19:00 | <retrospectacus> | it has them all |
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| 19:01 | <asklepian> | b43 firmware? |
| 19:01 | <retrospectacus> | fo sho |
| 19:01 | <asklepian> | aight |
| 19:02 | <asklepian> | I'll get it did n be back |
| 19:02 | <retrospectacus> | you can also supply firmware on externl media: |
| 19:02 | <retrospectacus> | !installer firmware |
| 19:02 | <dpkg> | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
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| 19:03 | <asklepian> | see, the netinst I have gave me that option |
| 19:03 | <asklepian> | but I could figure out how to download it |
| 19:03 | <asklepian> | it's easy to just apt-get |
| 19:03 | <asklepian> | but my other machine is a mac and I don't know how to 'apt-get' with it |
| 19:03 | <retrospectacus> | you can download it by http |
| 19:04 | <retrospectacus> | from packages.debian.org or any mirror |
| 19:05 | <asklepian> | but how do you handle dependencies? |
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| 19:06 | <retrospectacus> | well, you can't, not easily. But firmware doesn't usually have any deps |
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| 19:08 | <retrospectacus> | I think you will need b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer |
| 19:10 | <asklepian> | ok, I'm trying it with my original netinst image |
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| 19:10 | <asklepian> | it's looking for the actual firmware files, which I believe b43-fwcutter builds |
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| 19:11 | <asklepian> | will it recognize the packages if I put them on a USB? |
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| 19:11 | <retrospectacus> | that's the idea. Check the instructions |
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| 19:14 | <SamB_laptop> | huh, they recommend to use FAT! is that really more likely to work so early in installation, or just more likely to work with whatever other OSes the user might have on hand? |
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| 19:15 | <asklepian> | ok, how do I tell what architecture to use? |
| 19:16 | <asklepian> | does amd64 refer to AMD as opposed to intel? |
| 19:16 | <asklepian> | or is that just generic for 64-bit? |
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| 19:16 | <SamB_laptop> | asklepian: it's named in AMD's honor because they came up with the basic architecture |
| 19:16 | <asklepian> | ahh ok |
| 19:17 | <asklepian> | so if I have an intel 64 bit chip that's what I use... |
| 19:17 | <SamB_laptop> | unless it's an itanium, yes ;-) |
| 19:18 | <shirish> | does anybody know how to know if one is in bash shell or zsh shell ? |
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| 19:19 | <asklepian> | ok, I've loaded the .deb files onto a USB and inserted it... after selecting 'yes' to 'Load missing firmware from removable media?' the installer pauses and just returns to that question... |
| 19:20 | <asklepian> | how do I get the installer to use these firmware files? |
| 19:21 | <retrospectacus> | it's been a long time, but that might be all |
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| 19:23 | <asklepian> | but it isn't working... |
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| 19:24 | <asklepian> | I assume the installer has bzip2 and wget |
| 19:24 | <retrospectacus> | surely |
| 19:24 | <asklepian> | ...although, how is wget a dependency? |
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| 19:24 | <asklepian> | if I don't have internet access... |
| 19:25 | <asklepian> | ? |
| 19:25 | <asklepian> | that doesn't make sense |
| 19:25 | <retrospectacus> | you can try doing the dpkg -i on them in terminal 2 |
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| 19:25 | <asklepian> | how do I get to terminal from the graphical installer? |
| 19:26 | <retrospectacus> | press ctrl-alt-F2 |
| 19:26 | <asklepian> | nope |
| 19:26 | <asklepian> | oesn't work |
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| 19:26 | <retrospectacus> | I think F1 is the installer, and F4 is a log |
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| 19:27 | <asklepian> | nothing is happening... |
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| 19:27 | <retrospectacus> | hm. it's always worked for me |
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| 19:29 | <asklepian> | ok |
| 19:29 | <asklepian> | got it |
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| 19:32 | <asklepian> | ok, what's an easy way to identify which drive is my USB? |
| 19:32 | <asklepian> | I'm in dev but there's a bunch of options |
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| 19:33 | <asklepian> | I can't cd to sda/b/c |
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| 19:34 | <centrx> | asklepian, lsusb |
| 19:34 | <retrospectacus> | you'd need to mount it |
| 19:34 | <asklepian> | centrx lsusb not found |
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| 19:35 | <asklepian> | mounting I can do |
| 19:35 | <centrx> | asklepian, lsusb is in package usbutils, but actually it looks like it doesn't have the device name |
| 19:35 | <centrx> | asklepian, also try lsblk |
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| 19:35 | <asklepian> | also not found |
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| 19:36 | <centrx> | asklepian, These are command-line utilities you can run from any directory, not devices in /dev/ |
| 19:36 | <asklepian> | I'm not calling them from /dev/ |
| 19:37 | <asklepian> | I'm just typing 'lsusb' |
| 19:37 | <asklepian> | and 'lsblk' |
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| 19:37 | <asklepian> | I assume bash is looking through the appro[riate /bin files |
| 19:37 | <asklepian> | in any case, neither is found |
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| 19:38 | <asklepian> | any other tool I can use to figure out what to mount to /mnt? |
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| 19:39 | <centrx> | asklepian, Okay if that's true then there must be something very wrong with your system |
| 19:39 | <asklepian> | it's a netinstall |
| 19:39 | <centrx> | asklepian, lsblk is in util-linux, and util-linux is a Required, Essential package. |
| 19:39 | <centrx> | ah ok |
| 19:39 | <asklepian> | so, trimmed, I assume |
| 19:40 | <asklepian> | although a bit too trimmed if it's a netinstall without wifi drivers |
| 19:40 | <centrx> | asklepian, You can probably assume that it's /dev/sdb1 |
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| 19:40 | <asklepian> | I'll try that |
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| 19:42 | <asklepian> | I got something in sdb1 |
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| 19:42 | <asklepian> | but it's not what I'm looking for |
| 19:42 | <asklepian> | any other way to try to figure this out? |
| 19:43 | <retrospectacus> | try sdc or something else |
| 19:43 | <centrx> | yeah just go down the alphabet I guess |
| 19:43 | <asklepian> | tried c1 and c2 |
| 19:43 | <asklepian> | it can't be a |
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| 19:44 | <asklepian> | and I don't see anything else in /dev |
| 19:44 | <asklepian> | (looking confused)? |
| 19:44 | <retrospectacus> | how many disks do you have? |
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| 19:45 | <retrospectacus> | unplug and plug it and type dmesg |
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| 19:46 | <asklepian> | well, at this point, there's the SSD to which I'm trying to install Debian, the USB from which the netinstall is running, and the USB from which I'm attempting to install my wifi drivers |
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| 19:47 | <asklepian> | I mean, honestly, it's a netinstall... you'd think they'd just put all the ethernet and wifi drivers they have in the ISO... |
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| 19:48 | <asklepian> | looks like it's sdc |
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| 19:49 | <asklepian> | now, why would sdc be blank? |
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| 19:50 | <asklepian> | I JUST put the .deb files on the thing... |
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| 19:51 | <asklepian> | this should be so much simpler |
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| 19:52 | <asklepian> | ok, I checked and re-checked it |
| 19:52 | <asklepian> | it must be a formatting thing |
| 19:53 | <asklepian> | what format should my drive be in for this netinstall to pick it up? |
| 19:53 | <asklepian> | cause, right now, it's saying it's blank |
| 19:53 | <centrx> | ext4? |
| 19:53 | <asklepian> | and if my mac can't do that? |
| 19:53 | <centrx> | fat32 should work too |
| 19:53 | <asklepian> | fat32 it is |
| 19:54 | <centrx> | -t vfat |
| 19:54 | <asklepian> | ? |
| 19:54 | <centrx> | if you need to specify the filesystem type to mount, that's what FAT32 is called, vfat |
| 19:55 | <asklepian> | wait, so, 'mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1' ? |
| 19:55 | <centrx> | Yes, it may not be necessary |
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| 19:55 | <Arrowmaster> | asklepian: your trying to add drivers to a netinstall usb? |
| 19:56 | <asklepian> | I wouldn't phrase it that way |
| 19:56 | <asklepian> | basically the netinstall can't access the internet because it doesn't have the necessary drivers for my wifi card |
| 19:56 | <retrospectacus> | it's b43 |
| 19:57 | <asklepian> | which seems like the most elementary oversight for a netinstall |
| 19:57 | <Arrowmaster> | did you use the official or unofficial netinstall? |
| 19:57 | <asklepian> | if I were designing it, it would have every network driver imaginable on it |
| 19:57 | <asklepian> | Arrowmaster, I actually don't recall tbh |
| 19:57 | <Arrowmaster> | the official one does not include any non-free binary blobs |
| 19:57 | <blast007> | asklepian: it's not drivers, it's firmware. the official one doesn't have non-free firmware on it. |
| 19:57 | <Arrowmaster> | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 19:58 | <asklepian> | so, this includes b43? |
| 19:58 | <Arrowmaster> | make a new netinstall usb with the iso from that link |
| 19:58 | <Arrowmaster> | it should i think |
| 19:58 | <asklepian> | and this is a directory... where is the iso? |
| 19:58 | <Arrowmaster> | which netinstall do you want? jessie? |
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| 19:58 | <devrikx> | couldn't he just drop the firmware package (extracted) into the root? |
| 19:58 | <abrotman> | It does |
| 19:59 | <abrotman> | if he has the .deb file, he should be able to dpkg -i the .deb file |
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| 19:59 | <blast007> | as mentioned, the b43 stuff depends on wget - so that would imply it's going to try downloading the firmware, right? |
| 20:00 | <Arrowmaster> | everything will be included in the unofficial iso |
| 20:00 | <asklepian> | ...very counterintuitive that |
| 20:00 | <blast007> | asklepian: not if you have a wired connection as well |
| 20:00 | <abrotman> | blast007: I tohught the b43-fwcutter could use one in the package? |
| 20:00 | <asklepian> | lol |
| 20:00 | <Arrowmaster> | asklepian: which version of debian do you want to netinstall, ill give you the direct iso link if you want |
| 20:01 | <asklepian> | if I had a wired connection, this wouldn't be a problem |
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| 20:01 | <asklepian> | Arrowmaster, I guess stable |
| 20:01 | <blast007> | abrotman: dunno.. I only ever use linux on servers and VMs, so I don't have to deal with wifi firmware ;) |
| 20:01 | <asklepian> | I should be able to upgrade/downgrade from that just fine |
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| 20:02 | <abrotman> | blast007: No one should :( |
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| 20:03 | <Arrowmaster> | asklepian: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 20:03 | <gsimmons> | Arrowmaster: Your suggestion won't work. The firmware images do not contain firmware for the b43 drivers (these are unable to be distributed by Debian). |
| 20:03 | <Arrowmaster> | ah |
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| 20:04 | <asklepian> | sooo... don't download this iso? |
| 20:04 | * | abrotman would at least try it |
| 20:04 | <asklepian> | and, honestly, how am I supposed to install this without a wired ethernet connection? |
| 20:05 | <abrotman> | asklepian: It should have the firmware you need for wireless |
| 20:05 | <asklepian> | ok |
| 20:05 | <asklepian> | 9 minutes left on the DL |
| 20:05 | <asklepian> | we'll see |
| 20:06 | <asklepian> | I realize that debian prides itself in the free/non-free distinction |
| 20:06 | <asklepian> | but some things (like just *getting* debian in the first place) should "just work" |
| 20:06 | <devrikx> | Youl really could just drop the firmware package in your current usb. As they've stated intel and many other wifi drivers do not meet the DFSG and so they are part of non-free |
| 20:07 | <devrikx> | you can just download the full firmware package from non-free...and drop the firmware into your current usb (if its a usb that uses an iso, open the iso and drop the firmware directory into root) |
| 20:08 | <Arrowmaster> | i dont do installs that often but never had much success trying that, the instructions were always shit |
| 20:08 | <devrikx> | Yea, I wont push it hard since they're already downloading |
| 20:08 | <asklepian> | I would really like to see debian upgrade to a wiki like archlinux has |
| 20:08 | <devrikx> | I'll write something up - and share it, I've done it and also found directions were not very good |
| 20:08 | <Arrowmaster> | we have a wiki |
| 20:08 | <Arrowmaster> | its just not as well edited as arch's |
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| 20:09 | <asklepian> | right |
| 20:09 | <asklepian> | also it blocks me all the time cause I'm on a VPN |
| 20:09 | <asklepian> | should be some way to authenticate |
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| 20:10 | <asklepian> | but with the age and development of debian, I just would've expected debian's wiki to look more like wikipedia than arch |
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| 20:10 | <devrikx> | Though - now I have a problem (asking in debian-next since it's jessie related) but I'll ask here too. Has anyone had the 'A start job is running...lsb raising network interfaces' problem...where it just sits there...45 mins now...and never boots into linux? |
| 20:10 | <abrotman> | asklepian: it's a sore spot .. some agree, some don't |
| 20:11 | <guilherme> | how can I mount an dvd image? |
| 20:11 | <abrotman> | guilherme: an ISO? |
| 20:12 | <asklepian> | abrotman I don't like pouring salt on open wounds but arch has exploded in popularity almost entirely due to its wiki |
| 20:12 | <asklepian> | there's obvious demand for a usable wiki |
| 20:12 | <guilherme> | yes |
| 20:13 | <asklepian> | and since debian has so much more to offer, a solid wiki would make debian much more approachable |
| 20:13 | <abrotman> | asklepian: wiki.debian.org ? |
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| 20:14 | <asklepian> | yup |
| 20:14 | <abrotman> | We have one, feel free to edit it |
| 20:14 | <asklepian> | compare it to https://wiki.archlinux.org/ for usability |
| 20:14 | <asklepian> | I don't know enough to edit it |
| 20:15 | <asklepian> | I guess that's my point |
| 20:15 | <guilherme> | I've tried mount -o loop image.iso /media/cdrom0/ and got an error |
| 20:15 | <asklepian> | people use the wiki to learn... arch's is easier to learn from |
| 20:15 | <abrotman> | guilherme: I asked you if it was an ISO |
| 20:16 | <abrotman> | guilherme: run the 'file' command on it |
| 20:16 | <abrotman> | asklepian: Pretty sure it's roughly the same wiki .. it's just the amount and organization |
| 20:17 | <asklepian> | well, it's enough of a difference for an entire distro to emerge almost entirely because of the difference |
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| 20:17 | <asklepian> | arch doesn't really offer much in the way of a distro other than the amazing wiki |
| 20:18 | <guilherme> | ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data |
| 20:18 | <abrotman> | guilherme: so what's the error? |
| 20:19 | <abrotman> | asklepian: I'm sure it's more than that. ISTR Gentoo also has a good wiki |
| 20:19 | <asklepian> | as I recall, Gentoo's is packed full of info but also difficult to use |
| 20:20 | <guilherme> | it is in portuguese, something like unknow error -1 |
| 20:20 | <asklepian> | kids these days grow up on Wikipedia |
| 20:20 | <asklepian> | they want something that looks and acts like Wikipedia |
| 20:21 | <blast007> | !localized errors |
| 20:21 | <dpkg> | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 20:21 | <asklepian> | and, frankly, Wikipedia is darn successful because it's easy to use |
| 20:21 | <asklepian> | well organized, etc. |
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| 20:23 | <asklepian> | the entire Library of Congress is about 15 TB last I heard, which I can fit on a couple of HDD's |
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| 20:25 | <asklepian> | I'm sure Debian's wiki is less info but the point is the amount of info isn't important... usability is... |
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| 20:28 | <asklepian> | ok, download's done |
| 20:28 | <asklepian> | time to see if the firmware is present... |
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| 20:29 | <asklepian> | yup |
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| 20:30 | <asklepian> | missing b43/ucode29_mimo.fw b43-open/ucode29_mimo.fw |
| 20:30 | <asklepian> | ...still |
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| 20:33 | <abrotman> | asklepian: Do oyu have a method to transport a file? |
| 20:33 | <abrotman> | or another computer? |
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| 20:39 | <asklepian> | abrotman |
| 20:39 | <asklepian> | yup |
| 20:39 | <asklepian> | I even have the files |
| 20:39 | <asklepian> | ... I think |
| 20:41 | <abrotman> | So can you put them in placde? |
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| 20:47 | <asklepian> | ok, I got the drive to mount |
| 20:47 | <asklepian> | the .deb files are accessible |
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| 20:47 | <asklepian> | what do? |
| 20:47 | <abrotman> | asklepian: dpkg -i foo.deb |
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| 20:48 | <asklepian> | dpkg: not found |
| 20:48 | <dpkg> | asklepian: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 20:51 | <abrotman> | asklepian: are you still in the installer? |
| 20:51 | <asklepian> | yup |
| 20:51 | <abrotman> | ah, I thought you'd finished alread |
| 20:51 | <abrotman> | already |
| 20:51 | <asklepian> | no |
| 20:52 | <asklepian> | it's a netinstall |
| 20:52 | <asklepian> | ...and I only have wifi |
| 20:52 | <asklepian> | so, I can't net...install... |
| 20:52 | <abrotman> | you can finish the installer without wifi, and do the firmware after |
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| 20:52 | <asklepian> | but |
| 20:53 | <asklepian> | how? |
| 20:53 | <asklepian> | if I have no internet |
| 20:53 | <asklepian> | ... ? |
| 20:54 | <abrotman> | you don't need it |
| 20:54 | <abrotman> | Netinst is a misnomer .. it'll instlal just fine |
| 20:54 | <abrotman> | you'll have a bare system |
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| 20:54 | <asklepian> | so just skip configuring the network? |
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| 20:55 | <abrotman> | sure |
| 20:55 | <abrotman> | we can do it later |
| 20:56 | <asklepian> | it keeps trying to configure the internet |
| 20:56 | <asklepian> | can I tell it to skip? |
| 20:56 | <abrotman> | yes |
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| 21:06 | <asklepian> | ok |
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| 21:06 | <asklepian> | wow |
| 21:07 | <asklepian> | I have a bare system |
| 21:07 | <asklepian> | I think I like this |
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| 21:10 | <devrikx> | lol, I never tried that. Interesting. I just forced myself to learn how to setup firmware in any image I wanted because I figured myself hopeless |
| 21:10 | <devrikx> | I learn something knew every day |
| 21:11 | <devrikx> | I'm referring to just skipping the wifi config and finishing the installer without net connection...I would have figured the netinstall would complain...but now that I think about it, it allows hd-media configuration and all...so it makes sense |
| 21:11 | <Jobbe> | brian: sad :/ |
| 21:11 | <Jobbe> | Brigo * |
| 21:12 | <devrikx> | abrotman: thanks for sharing that |
| 21:12 | <asklepian> | ok |
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| 21:12 | <asklepian> | how do I just format my drive from the cli |
| 21:12 | <asklepian> | ? |
| 21:12 | <asklepian> | I keep having issues with it recognizing the drive |
| 21:12 | <asklepian> | so I just want to format it in debian and let Mac worry about recognizing it |
| 21:12 | <devrikx> | that might be an fstab issue |
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| 21:13 | <asklepian> | it can see it just fine |
| 21:13 | <devrikx> | oh i see |
| 21:13 | <asklepian> | but the filesystem stuff is being pissy |
| 21:13 | <devrikx> | yes, so you want fat format (works in mac and linux) |
| 21:13 | <devrikx> | I can give you a link or just the command to use |
| 21:13 | <asklepian> | I did that already |
| 21:13 | <asklepian> | but it isn't working |
| 21:13 | <devrikx> | dd is the command |
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| 21:14 | <asklepian> | how do I I just reformat the drive from the debian cli |
| 21:14 | <asklepian> | ? |
| 21:14 | <devrikx> | using dd |
| 21:14 | <asklepian> | exact syntax? |
| 21:14 | <devrikx> | sec |
| 21:15 | <blast007> | asklepian: do you mean how to write a new filesystem onto the drive, or how to completely zero the drive? |
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| 21:15 | <asklepian> | blast007 I guess just reformat it |
| 21:15 | <devrikx> | dd if=/dev/urandom of=[your disk... make sure you get it right] bs=512 |
| 21:16 | <asklepian> | mkfs.ext4 ? |
| 21:16 | <devrikx> | dd will 0 the drive |
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| 21:17 | <devrikx> | If you're interested in trying out GPT, I typically use parted to change the disk label (to gpt), use it to create a partition, and use mkfs.ext4 to create a linux file system |
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| 21:17 | <devrikx> | but will mac read ext4? |
| 21:17 | <asklepian> | maybe? |
| 21:17 | <asklepian> | let's find out |
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| 21:17 | <devrikx> | fat format is the only format garunteed to work with all systems (typically) |
| 21:17 | <devrikx> | I like that approach too though :) (let's find out) |
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| 21:19 | <devrikx> | and I apologize, I gave an incorrect statement - this is the way to zero a drive... |
| 21:19 | <devrikx> | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX iflag=nocache oflag=direct bs=4096 |
| 21:20 | <asklepian> | so, the answer is "no, mac will not read/write ext4" |
| 21:20 | <asklepian> | ...assholes |
| 21:20 | <devrikx> | that use core utilities - the other uses urandom, and should work -> but I've never used it (borrowed it from a site) |
| 21:20 | <blast007> | that's wasting write cycles on the flash cells though |
| 21:21 | <devrikx> | lol good to know |
| 21:21 | <devrikx> | blast007 I'm not a pro with regards to that, please by all means correct me |
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| 21:21 | <asklepian> | blast007 I've got 256 GB of cells to waste |
| 21:21 | <asklepian> | so, other than time, that's fine |
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| 21:22 | <asklepian> | not that wear-leveling necessarily writes to ALL cells |
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| 21:22 | <devrikx> | oh I see, long way about saying that its using up read/write limits (eventual death of sectors?) |
| 21:23 | <devrikx> | or are you using an SSD? |
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| 21:24 | <asklepian> | nope usb |
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| 21:24 | <devrikx> | oh, I see what you're saying now - you are reformatting the usb drive |
| 21:24 | <asklepian> | yup |
| 21:24 | <devrikx> | sorry, I was thinking a HDD |
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| 21:26 | <asklepian> | i think i'm only going to use hdd's for cold storage from now on |
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| 21:28 | <asklepian> | actually, I wonder if, in the near future, computer will only have a single read/write event to and from the HDD per poweron |
| 21:29 | <asklepian> | once RAM becomes cheap enough, you can load the entire contents of storage to RAM at boot |
| 21:29 | <asklepian> | and write at poweroff |
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| 21:30 | <devrikx> | I wouldn't personally make use of that until usb drives and sd chips could perform like a solid state |
| 21:30 | <devrikx> | and ofc that requires the normal everyday pc to have usb3+ or SATAe connectors |
| 21:30 | <asklepian> | I think bus improvments will get there easily |
| 21:30 | <devrikx> | but I'm sure the time will come :) |
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| 21:31 | <devrikx> | I've always thought so too, ever since the microSD chip came out |
| 21:31 | <devrikx> | I'm looking forward to it, to when I can take my chip on my keychain to any terminal and have it run at full speed |
| 21:31 | <asklepian> | right now, I think I've got 300GB of data that I want to be persistent |
| 21:32 | <asklepian> | that would be amazing |
| 21:32 | <devrikx> | :) |
| 21:32 | <asklepian> | terminal rental would become a major market |
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| 21:33 | <devrikx> | yea, especially considering you wouldn't need to deal with maintainence of hardware yourself etc...be great for some users |
| 21:33 | <asklepian> | where you wear your 'pc' around your neck but can rent time on badass gaming workstations |
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| 21:33 | <asklepian> | especially, if all it has to do is 'run' |
| 21:34 | <devrikx> | lol yea that'd be nice. You get home, plug your chip in (no pun intended there), need to go somewhere on t he road you can plug it into your car, at the hotel, anywhere |
| 21:34 | <devrikx> | ofc, it'd be running debian :P |
| 21:34 | <asklepian> | I didn't think of that... |
| 21:34 | <asklepian> | naturally |
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| 21:34 | <asklepian> | using it in the car, etc. |
| 21:35 | <devrikx> | yea - that one i've been dying for |
| 21:35 | <devrikx> | I mean we already have the live OS |
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| 21:35 | <devrikx> | just really need the solid state tech's and interfacing to improve |
| 21:35 | <devrikx> | these drives are big enough, that could work without cloud storage |
| 21:35 | <devrikx> | which would ease many many ppl's minds |
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| 21:36 | <asklepian> | I don't really like the cloud |
| 21:36 | <asklepian> | it's nice from the perspective of long term storage and redundancy |
| 21:36 | <devrikx> | same, for some things yes - but all my dirty little secrets I like being able to keep 'secret' |
| 21:36 | <asklepian> | but I don't like someone else "possessing" my data |
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| 21:37 | <devrikx> | not that they have to be dirty lol, just rather - as you said - keep them soley in my possession |
| 21:37 | <asklepian> | oh, they're dirty |
| 21:37 | <asklepian> | everyone knows about you devrikx |
| 21:37 | <devrikx> | :P |
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| 21:38 | <asklepian> | no, seriously, everybody knows... |
| 21:38 | <asklepian> | ...everybody |
| 21:39 | <asklepian> | I'm kidding, of course |
| 21:39 | <asklepian> | ...but seriously everybody knows |
| 21:40 | <asklepian> | ok, so, FAT32 is unrecognizable by debian |
| 21:40 | <asklepian> | what format should I use to xfer my tiny .deb fw files? |
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| 21:42 | <abrotman> | asklepian: sorry, got caught up in SPF records .. |
| 21:42 | <abrotman> | and fat32 does work in Debian |
| 21:43 | <asklepian> | hmmm |
| 21:43 | <asklepian> | let's try formatting it from debian |
| 21:43 | <asklepian> | mkfs.vfat -F32 ? |
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| 21:44 | <abrotman> | just mkfs.vfat |
| 21:44 | <asklepian> | mkfs.vfat: not found |
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| 21:45 | <asklepian> | ? |
| 21:45 | <abrotman> | do you have any mkfs cvommands? |
| 21:46 | <asklepian> | I assume so |
| 21:46 | <asklepian> | it's just a bare install |
| 21:46 | <asklepian> | so maybe not? |
| 21:46 | <abrotman> | you sohuld |
| 21:47 | <asklepian> | any way to check |
| 21:47 | <asklepian> | because that command isn't working |
| 21:47 | <abrotman> | mkfs<tab><tab> |
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| 21:48 | <asklepian> | ahh |
| 21:49 | <asklepian> | so, mkfs, mkfs.bfs, mkfs.bcramfs, mkfs.ext2, mkfs.ext3, mkfs.ext4, mkfs.ext4dev, mkfs.minix |
| 21:49 | <abrotman> | oh fun |
| 21:49 | <asklepian> | lol |
| 21:49 | <abrotman> | but it should still be able to mount vfat |
| 21:49 | <devrikx> | lols |
| 21:49 | <abrotman> | did otu format on Windows? |
| 21:49 | <abrotman> | you |
| 21:49 | <asklepian> | formatted on mac |
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| 21:49 | <asklepian> | that's my other machine |
| 21:49 | <asklepian> | ...with internet |
| 21:49 | * | abrotman notes osx can probably format ext2 |
| 21:50 | <asklepian> | according to diskutil, it can't |
| 21:50 | <abrotman> | grr |
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| 21:50 | <devrikx> | if you're mac has internet, you could download support for fat and install it :P |
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| 21:50 | <abrotman> | can you format it as fat16? |
| 21:50 | <asklepian> | that's why I was hoping to mkfs from debian and just let mac worry about reading |
| 21:51 | <asklepian> | I have all the Mac OS extended's, MSDOS FAT, and ExFAT |
| 21:51 | <devrikx> | no i mean download mkfs.vfat from deb repository |
| 21:52 | <devrikx> | then ssh or transfer via another usb - the package - and install it |
| 21:52 | <abrotman> | devrikx: how would he transfer it? |
| 21:52 | <abrotman> | no netowrk, no vfat support |
| 21:52 | <asklepian> | ahhh |
| 21:52 | <asklepian> | internet > mac > usb > debian |
| 21:52 | <abrotman> | how would you put it on the USb that the os doesn't understand? |
| 21:52 | <asklepian> | I am not a smart man |
| 21:52 | <devrikx> | mac has to be able to format fat |
| 21:53 | <devrikx> | fat16 or fat |
| 21:53 | <asklepian> | it says it can |
| 21:53 | <devrikx> | https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2355168?tstart=0 |
| 21:53 | <asklepian> | but when I pop it into debian and mount nothing comes up |
| 21:53 | <asklepian> | I'll try one more time |
| 21:54 | <devrikx> | specifically this part is interesting in th at link: |
| 21:54 | <abrotman> | pops up? |
| 21:54 | <devrikx> | Another easy solution. In Disk Utility, go to the partition tab and click "options." Choose the "Master Boot Record" instead of the default Apple-based choices. Once I found this, I can, so far, easily format my flash drives with FAT32 on the Mac and have them readable on a PC. |
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| 21:54 | <devrikx> | I have to jet though - I hope I was able to help in some way |
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| 21:54 | <devrikx> | gl! :) |
| 21:55 | <devrikx> | (ill be back around, but I think you'll get it :) ) |
| 21:57 | <devrikx> | another option, thinking on that (lol still havent left) - idk if it'd work...but if your pc see's the disk in fdisk -l, but will not mount it...you could try installing grub to it |
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| 21:57 | <devrikx> | that might make it 'usable'....and I have an EFI usb drive that takes upwards of 2 mins to get recognized by deiban and mounted |
| 21:58 | <asklepian> | mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt tells me bogus numerb of reserved sectors |
| 21:58 | <asklepian> | is it because it's a 256GB drive? |
| 21:59 | <devrikx> | so you installed the package? |
| 21:59 | <devrikx> | yes I believe mac doesn't use a typical mbr partition table |
| 21:59 | <devrikx> | you'll want to follow the exerpt from above, from that link |
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| 22:00 | <devrikx> | Ah, lady finally giving me the 'lets go' look -> I must attend o.o |
| 22:01 | <asklepian> | attend |
| 22:01 | <asklepian> | ATTEND |
| 22:01 | <asklepian> | for those of us who cannot |
| 22:01 | <asklepian> | ATTENNNDDDD |
| 22:01 | <asklepian> | good morrow |
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| 22:02 | <asklepian> | ok |
| 22:02 | <asklepian> | dpkg -i firmware-b43-installer is telling me unsupported devices found |
| 22:02 | * | dpkg removes a lung from asklepian and replaces it with firmware-b43-installer is telling me unsupported devices found |
| 22:03 | <asklepian> | thanks dpkg |
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| 22:04 | <asklepian> | 14e4:4331 |
| 22:04 | <asklepian> | what package should I be using? |
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| 22:07 | <asklepian> | which debian package corresponds to the 14e4:4331 support listed here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/ ? |
| 22:10 | <LtL> | judd: pciid 14e4:4331 |
| 22:10 | <judd> | [14e4:4331] is 'BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'bcma' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4331 |
| 22:10 | <asklepian> | ok, why is firmware-b43-installer telling me that 14e4:4331 is unsupported if it's listed here: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices ? |
| 22:10 | <asklepian> | so, I need bcma? |
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| 22:11 | <LtL> | asklepian: try modprobe bcma |
| 22:11 | <LtL> | asklepian: yes you do |
| 22:12 | <asklepian> | ok, so I need bcma |
| 22:12 | <asklepian> | also, how to I edit the default lines at boot in grub? |
| 22:12 | <LtL> | asklepian: yes, looks like it |
| 22:13 | <abrotman> | asklepian: /etc/default/grub IIRC |
| 22:13 | <LtL> | asklepian: press 'e' at the grub screen, then edit accordingly |
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| 22:14 | <LtL> | err, what abrotman said |
| 22:14 | <asklepian> | nah, I editted the file |
| 22:14 | <asklepian> | I didn't want to keep typing e at boot |
| 22:14 | <LtL> | nod |
| 22:14 | <asklepian> | ok |
| 22:14 | <asklepian> | so, bcma |
| 22:14 | <asklepian> | how do I get that? |
| 22:15 | <LtL> | asklepian: you can edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg but its` not recommended |
| 22:15 | <asklepian> | nah, I nano'd /etc/default/grub and ran update-grub |
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| 22:15 | <asklepian> | we're goo there |
| 22:15 | <asklepian> | good* |
| 22:16 | <asklepian> | how do I get bcma without internet |
| 22:16 | <asklepian> | right now I'm just trying to get my wifi working using a usb drive between a bare debian install and a mac with internet |
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| 22:17 | <asklepian> | and, also, I've never needed to do anything other than firmware-b43-installer before |
| 22:17 | * | abrotman didn't know about bmca either |
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| 22:19 | <asklepian> | and on top of that, it's listed by https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices as supported |
| 22:19 | <asklepian> | which is inconsistent with what firmware-b43-installer is telling me |
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| 22:21 | <LtL> | asklepian: you might want the b43-cutter package |
| 22:22 | <asklepian> | LtL I installed that already |
| 22:22 | <asklepian> | worked fine |
| 22:22 | <asklepian> | when I went forware with firmware-b43-installer, it told me that 14e4:4331 is unsupported |
| 22:22 | <asklepian> | which is clearly not the case |
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| 22:22 | <LtL> | asklepian: any broadcom modules listed by lsmod |
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| 22:23 | <asklepian> | lsmod | grep broadcom returns nothing |
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| 22:25 | <LtL> | asklepian: i have bcma loaded, grepping broadcom won't get you anything iirc |
| 22:25 | <abrotman> | (he's using Jessie, right?) |
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| 22:26 | <LtL> | asklepian: i also have the b43 module loaded on this ols laptop |
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| 22:27 | <asklepian> | ok |
| 22:27 | <asklepian> | now it's working |
| 22:27 | <asklepian> | it's trying to wget |
| 22:27 | <asklepian> | which obviously isn't going to work |
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| 22:28 | <LtL> | asklepian: thats what it needs to do, what exactly its gets i can't say |
| 22:28 | <asklepian> | I've downloaded the correct file, which is .bz2 |
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| 22:28 | <asklepian> | how do I point the firmware-b43-installer to that instead of the wget? |
| 22:29 | <LtL> | asklepian: a wired connection would be helpful here |
| 22:30 | <asklepian> | not possible |
| 22:30 | <asklepian> | I know you're showing up late to the party but I've been over that a million times |
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| 22:30 | <asklepian> | software should be flexible where hardware is not |
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| 22:30 | <asklepian> | how do I expand the bz2 file? |
| 22:31 | <sney> | is it .tar.bz2? tar xf filename.tar.bz2 |
| 22:32 | <asklepian> | ok |
| 22:32 | <asklepian> | so here's what we've got |
| 22:32 | <asklepian> | I've installed b43-fwcutter |
| 22:32 | <asklepian> | I've attempted to run firmware-b43-installer |
| 22:33 | <asklepian> | b43-installer attempts a wget, which is not possible because we're trying to install wifi firmware |
| 22:33 | <sney> | the firmeware files in the tar.bz2 file get installed to /lib/firmware. if you get the tar archive you can just put the files in /lib/firmware and reboot |
| 22:33 | <asklepian> | the file it requests is broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2 |
| 22:34 | <LtL> | asklepian: package linux-firmware-nonfree may be needed too |
| 22:34 | <asklepian> | I've downloaded that and copied it to the working directory but have to point firmware-b43-installer to that file instead of to the wget |
| 22:34 | <sney> | asklepian: no you don't. just untar it and put the firmware files where they need to go. the b43-installer package is just for convenience when you _do_ have a network connection. |
| 22:35 | <asklepian> | sney good to know |
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| 22:35 | <asklepian> | 1 point to bring up here: I'm getting a permission error when attempting to tar xf the bz2 file with root |
| 22:36 | <sney> | what permission error, where are you trying to untar it, etc |
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| 22:36 | <asklepian> | cannot change ownership uid to 1000 gid to 100 |
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| 22:38 | <Tyler> | Need to install Debian as UEFI since Ill be using OVMF with KVM. Is a UEFI install going to be part of the Installer with Jessie? |
| 22:38 | <sney> | asklepian: do it as a normal user or with --no-same-owner |
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| 22:38 | <sney> | Tyler: uefi has been in the installer since wheezy at least, though support is always improving |
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| 22:40 | <asklepian> | ok, it seems it extracted fine |
| 22:41 | <asklepian> | but tar just wanted to change permissions (for some reason) |
| 22:41 | <asklepian> | now I just copy and reinstall? |
| 22:41 | <asklepian> | ...to which directory? |
| 22:41 | <sney> | when you use tar as root, it wants to keep the same permissions the file was created with |
| 22:41 | <Tyler> | sney now that is good news. Been using gpart etc. For w/e reason I have not seen the UEFI stuff in the installer. Where in the menus would I find that ? |
| 22:41 | <sney> | firmware files go in /lib/firmware |
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| 22:42 | <asklepian> | so, copy the entire directory recursively? |
| 22:42 | <sney> | Tyler: it's transparent, chosen by how the hardware boots the installer |
| 22:43 | <sney> | asklepian: yep, unless you know exactly which files you need |
| 22:43 | <asklepian> | rebooting |
| 22:43 | <Tyler> | just use a EFI USB and turn off secureboot and legacy mode? |
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| 22:43 | <sney> | Tyler: yep. shouldn't even need to turn off legacy most of the time, just make sure you choose the right one in the boot menu. (mine offers both) |
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| 22:44 | <asklepian> | ok, done |
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| 22:44 | <asklepian> | now how do I get internet |
| 22:44 | <asklepian> | ? |
| 22:45 | <abrotman> | reboot, ensure the module loads, verify there's a network interface listed |
| 22:45 | <sney> | make sure your wifi driver is loaded (check dmesg for lines about bmca/b43 and the firmware), then follow this https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 22:45 | <abrotman> | oh |
| 22:45 | <abrotman> | already di the rebooty |
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| 22:46 | <Tyler> | asklepian, well paying our bill is a good idea and maybe a like wicd while your at it =) |
| 22:47 | <asklepian> | I know I just forgot the utilities for checking kernel modules and network interfaces |
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| 22:49 | <asklepian> | so, dmesg | grep b43 indicates Broadcom 4331 found |
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| 22:50 | <asklepian> | ok, it didn't work |
| 22:51 | <Tyler> | asklepian, what are you trying to do? |
| 22:51 | <asklepian> | going back to the tar xf of the bz2 that firmware-b43-installer was looking for, I think it builds the firmware from the files it downloads |
| 22:51 | <asklepian> | Tyler install wifi drivers so I can get access to the internet |
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| 22:52 | <asklepian> | firmware-b43-installer aborts at a wget |
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| 22:52 | <Tyler> | hmm that is not a free driver iirc? |
| 22:52 | <abrotman> | if it's found, what makes you think it didn't work? |
| 22:52 | <asklepian> | because it (ironically) has to download files to complete the installation of the wifi firmware |
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| 22:53 | <abrotman> | is the device listed in /sbin/ifconfig -a ? |
| 22:53 | <abrotman> | eh .. wait, that won't be there |
| 22:53 | <asklepian> | abrotman b43-phy- ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all the instructions on this website. |
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| 22:54 | <abrotman> | asklepian: neat .. so we're back to the FAT problem? |
| 22:54 | <asklepian> | my device is a broadcom 14e4:4331 device |
| 22:54 | <asklepian> | not a FAT problem |
| 22:54 | <asklepian> | the file transferred nicely |
| 22:54 | <abrotman> | oh, so you just need the actual firmware files ? |
| 22:54 | <asklepian> | so, we have the approriate files |
| 22:54 | <asklepian> | yes |
| 22:55 | <asklepian> | I believe that firmware-b43-installer builds the fw files from the files it wget's |
| 22:55 | <abrotman> | oh, that's right .. we found the secret osx fat instructions |
| 22:55 | <asklepian> | firmware-b43-installer can't wget the files it needs but I transferred them manually |
| 22:55 | <asklepian> | I just need a way to point firmware-b43-installer to the local file instead of the one it wants to wget |
| 22:56 | <Tyler> | did you try sudo modprobe -rf b43 && sudo modprobe b43 ? |
| 22:56 | <Tyler> | what do you see with lsmod |
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| 22:56 | <abrotman> | the wireless wiki has the instructoins if you dig around a bit |
| 22:57 | <asklepian> | lsmod | grep b43 returns several items |
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| 22:58 | <asklepian> | b43, mac80211, cfg80211, ssb, rng_core, pcmia, bcma, mmc_core |
| 22:58 | <Tyler> | and modinfo b43 ? |
| 22:58 | <asklepian> | nope |
| 22:58 | <asklepian> | ohhh |
| 22:58 | <asklepian> | 1 sec |
| 22:59 | <asklepian> | several item |
| 22:59 | <asklepian> | I can't list them all |
| 22:59 | <asklepian> | ucodexx.fw |
| 22:59 | <asklepian> | where xx = some number |
| 23:00 | <asklepian> | the one request at install earlier was ucode29.fw |
| 23:00 | <asklepian> | which is not listed |
| 23:01 | <asklepian> | so, how should I be able to turn on the wifi card, assuming the firmware was installed properly |
| 23:01 | <asklepian> | ? |
| 23:02 | <asklepian> | ip link set wlan0 up ? |
| 23:05 | <asklepian> | it's telling me wlan0 doesn't support scanning: network is down |
| 23:05 | <asklepian> | how to I change to up? |
| 23:05 | <asklepian> | ip link set wlan0 up ? |
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| 23:06 | <Tyler> | It really could be anything. Try to keep it KISS and know in detail what you are doing. There are a zillion ppl on the net that have issues with that card it looks like though. |
| 23:06 | <Tyler> | sudo ifconfig wlan0 up |
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| 23:08 | <asklepian> | that command causes bcma to look for b43/ucode29_mimo.fw |
| 23:08 | <asklepian> | which was not in the broadcom file from earlier |
| 23:08 | <asklepian> | I'm really quite certain that I was right to begin with |
| 23:09 | <asklepian> | firmware-b43-installer needs to build the firmware from the downloaded file |
| 23:09 | <Tyler> | I dont have non-free in my repos but just maybe maybe if your lucky you might fight the drivers you need there? |
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| 23:09 | <asklepian> | so, to ask the question I asked an hour ago, "How do I point firmware-b43-installer to the local file instead of wget"?!? |
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| 23:10 | <asklepian> | I've downloaded that and copied it to the working directory but have to point firmware-b43-installer to that file instead of to the wget |
| 23:10 | <asklepian> | [22:34:50] <sney> asklepian: no you don't. just untar it and put the firmware files where they need to go. the b43-installer package is just for convenience when you _do_ have a network connection. |
| 23:10 | <Tyler> | ah wait your installer is pulling stuff off the net? You prolly need to install curl |
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| 23:11 | <asklepian> | no |
| 23:11 | <asklepian> | I don't need curl |
| 23:11 | <asklepian> | it's a script that invokes wget |
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| 23:11 | <asklepian> | all it wants is a file |
| 23:11 | <asklepian> | I have the file |
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| 23:11 | <asklepian> | how do I tell it to use the file I have instead of trying to curl/wget/download anything? |
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| 23:12 | <Tyler> | just change the script and make a ln -s if you have the file I would think |
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| 23:12 | <asklepian> | the script is run from within a .deb file |
| 23:13 | <asklepian> | does that change in the instructions you just gave me |
| 23:13 | <asklepian> | ? |
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| 23:14 | <Tyler> | the magic of blobs ... dont know what to tell ya if you dont have the source. 99.9% of the time though if you read you will find what you are looking for. |
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| 23:15 | <asklepian> | this is like taking a powerdrill to my skull |
| 23:15 | <asklepian> | the installer wgets something that's sitting right next to it in the same directory |
| 23:15 | <Tyler> | lol, that makes like a lot more easy. You seen the movie Pi right+ |
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| 23:15 | <Tyler> | gn and good luck. |
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| 23:16 | <asklepian> | Tyler I saw that movie years ago |
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| 23:16 | <asklepian> | how do I change a .deb file to act on a local file instead of trying to wget the same file from the internet? |
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