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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-03-27

---Logopened Fri Mar 27 00:00:09 2015
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00:13<jkay_0>Anyone suggest the best language to use for a server-side script to process mysql data and run programs?
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00:13<jkay_0>I've been using Node.js but it's just not working for what I need to do.
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00:38<goviedo>hi
00:38<goviedo>there is my first time here
00:39<somiaj>goviedo: this is a support channel for debian os. If you have a question please just ask.
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00:39<goviedo>rlz, my english really sucks... I was using Arch, i change to Debian is most stable but i have a big problem with Skype with Jessy
00:40<somiaj>goviedo: what is your problem? Are you running 32bit or 64bit debian?
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00:40<goviedo>64 bit debian
00:40<goviedo>Linux goviedo-toshiba 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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00:41<goviedo>there is a source for skype???
00:41<somiaj>goviedo: things you need to do. 1) enable multiarc support so you can install 32bit software. 2) download the offical skype .deb for debian, 3) dpkg -i skype.deb, then apt-get -f install to fix any dependecy issues
00:41<somiaj>goviedo: nope, you'll have to manually install it. And it really isn't supported since it is third party. But those instructions will install it
00:41<goviedo>cool, where i do find skype.deb?
00:42<somiaj>goviedo: from skypes offical download page
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00:43<goviedo>guys, its amazing how fast you respond... i will cooperate with you, im using linux as a user about 1 year
00:43<goviedo>i change windows suck OS about 1 year ago, i will never install windows again
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00:53<goviedo>where do i have a good and short manual for enabling multiarc support?
00:53<goviedo>please help
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00:57<somiaj>!multiarch
00:57<dpkg>Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>.
00:57<goviedo>damn so simple
00:57<somiaj>goviedo: just run that command dpkg --add-architecture i386 and then apt-get udpate
00:58<goviedo>thank you very much... im installing skype now...
00:58<somiaj>igore the errors it gives you, provided you have a clean install apt-get -f install should fix all the issues for you
00:58<goviedo>i noticed that now...
00:58<goviedo>somiaj, where are you from?
00:58<somiaj>goviedo: I live in Idaho.
00:58<somiaj>(united states)
00:59<goviedo>great, im from Santiago, Chile
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01:00<somiaj>goviedo: we try to keep chat on topic (which is debian support). Off-topic conversations like 'where are you from' are best taken to #debian-offtopic (though I'm more of a just stay on topic chatter)
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01:01<goviedo>i had a intel core i3 toshiba machine and is running insane fast with debian
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01:02<goviedo>price: $ 90 US dollar.
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01:06<goviedo>i can't believe it, skype is running, thank you.
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01:08<somiaj>goviedo: glad it worked, (:
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01:13<goviedo>do you know how to fix the Virtual Device Mic and Speaker configuration?
01:13<goviedo>on Skype?
01:14<somiaj>not really. The few times I used it, the settings tool listed all my devices and I just selected the correct one to use.
01:15<goviedo>yes, is something weird
01:15<somiaj>I know now it uses pulseaudio, pavucontrol is a good tool to configure pulse.
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01:22<goviedo>for the record... just run pulseaudio & and then skype and works
01:22<Guest175>hi, anyone use beagleboard with lcd-cape/
01:22<goviedo>with arch was a lot more complicated than this
01:22<goviedo>no dude, sorry
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02:03<goviedo>thanks very much somiaj, cyas soon...
02:03<goviedo>but the way... who knows ExtJS
02:03<goviedo>?
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02:03<goviedo>i have a little jobs for you
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03:11<FlowRiser>Hey guys, is the netinst image of Debian minimal? I do not want it to have anything regarding to a DE
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03:13<jm_>it asks you what other stuff you want to install at the end so you unmark DE etc.
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03:26<FlowRiser>jm_, thank you!
03:27<jm_>FlowRiser: no problem
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03:43<babilen_>FlowRiser: That can be done with all of the images. They simply differ in some preselections and the packages that are on them already (and don't have to be downloaded anymore)
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03:44<jm_>i was going to mention that but since I used those years ago wasn't sure on current status
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05:37<EmleyMoor>I'm on wheezy, Gnome, getting lots of windows popping up relating to Software Updates, stating "Could not get updates. Failed to process request." and under "More details", "Operation was cancelled" - not by my action. Why does this happen?
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05:43<benallard>Hi, I've got a quick question: Is it an issue that libdebconf0 is 'Priority:optional', and a dependency of base-passwd which is 'Priority:required' ?
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05:44<benallard>Shouldn't dependencies of 'required' packages also automatically be 'required' as well ?
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05:45<EmleyMoor>benallard: I don't see that as a huge probrem. If base-passwd ever ceased to be required, libdebconf0 might not be
05:45<EmleyMoor>problem*
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05:48<benallard>EmleyMoor: So you think libraries shouldn't be required ?
05:48<EmleyMoor>benallard: That's quite a big "read in" from what I actually said.p
05:49<benallard>At least, we agree it's not consistent with the other 'required' libraries ?
05:49<EmleyMoor>If there will always be something that requires it, it should be required. If it is possible that there may in the future be nothing that requires it, why should it be "required"?
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05:50<jm_>where do you see that libdebconf0 is a dependency for base-passwd?
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05:51<benallard>EmleyMoor: My trouble comes from the fact that I'm trying to setup a minimal repository in order to setup (very) small images, and trying to figure out the best way to get my package list.
05:51<benallard>jm_: in jessie.
05:52<benallard>jm_: I can see what you mean, in wheezy it's not ...
05:52<jm_>benallard: right, it depends on libdebconfclient0
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05:55<benallard>jm_: And that lib is 'Optional' although it will always be on every jessie install ...
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05:57<benallard>Hence my question, is it an issue ?
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05:58<jm_>the policy manual says: Packages must not depend on packages with lower priority values (excluding build-time dependencies). In order to ensure this, the priorities of one or more packages may need to be adjusted.
05:59<jm_>so for strict reading of that it's not OK
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06:30<benallard>jm_: Ok, thanks, I'll fill a bug on the BTS then.
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07:15<ninkotech>hi, i would like to make feature request, but i do not have email address with good spam filtering capabilities... (as reportbug requires). the request is with debian-installer and installing into BTRFS filesystem... it would be really much better if root would be installed into *subvolume* by default (like @). Or user should be asked if subvolume should be used. more info here: http://blog.kourim.net/installing-debian-
07:15<ninkotech>on-btrfs-subvolume If by any chance you do agree with me, please post this as debian-installer 'bug'...
07:15<ninkotech>oh that link got broken into 2 parts... here it is again: http://blog.kourim.net/installing-debian-on-btrfs-subvolume
07:16<knosys>Hello. guys is this normal? cant verify packages , trying to install pavucontrol
07:16<knosys>http://paste.debian.net/163484/
07:18<knosys>my sources.list may be unmodified.. I havent changed lately, just added few things to install java 8, but nothing else
07:18<knosys>is just that I dont know if I should get that warning if everything were just fine
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07:21<jm_>knosys: no, you shouldn't for debian packages
07:21<ninkotech>knosys: try apt-key update
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07:42<petn-randall>ninkotech: We won't file a bug for you. What if the maintainer has a question regarding your request? He'd be unable to contact you.
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07:54<knosys>jm_, ninkotech , is weird... why could this happen?
07:54<knosys>I tried apt-key update, but 7 was unchanged
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07:54<knosys>anyway, i tried to install the package again, and now I dont have that warning...
07:54<jm_>knosys: no Release.gpg file in the repository or whatever
07:55<knosys>Aahh , maybe someone is working on the repositories in that exactly moment?
07:55<jm_>in the past the 'apt-get update' trick was known to help in such situations but it doesn't appear as being needed these days
07:55<knosys>yeah, i did that, and also apt-key update
07:56<pujan14>hey this has happened with me as well, if there is no apt-get update recently I keep getting warning about verifying but once I do update it get's away why?
07:56<pujan14>and this happens to machines that get's apt-get update everynight duing cron run but some times still in afternoon I get such warning
07:58<knosys>yes , my last apt-get update was last night
07:58<knosys>also
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07:58<knosys>and I am pretty sure that upgrade was yesterday too
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08:12<Xylon>does debian consider Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License free for documentations?
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08:16<themill>Xylon: yes https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#Creative_Commons_Attribution_Share-Alike_.28CC-BY-SA.29_v4.0
08:17<Xylon>themill, ah! thankyou!
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08:49<peanut>lol
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09:09<benallard>jm_, someone else: Could you please proof-read #781309, I'd like to report more of that kind if it is ok (it's my first debian bug report ...)
09:10<jm_>benallard: I am not really involved with debian so makes little sense to ask me to do that
09:11<benallard>Ok, sorry, is there a better place where I should ask for that ?
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09:12<jm_>I wouldn't worry too much, you'll hear from whoever picks it up
09:17<benallard>jm_: The point is, if there's something silly in it. I'd rather not duplicate that sily thing in the other report I intend to do ...
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09:18<jm_>benallard: yeah just wait until you hear back on this one?
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09:19<benallard>sure.
09:19<benallard>thanks !
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09:20<jm_>no worries
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09:22<ninkotech>petn-randall: thats why i said "if you agree with me"
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09:26<ninkotech>petn-randall: and thats also why i linked an article, explaining everything.
09:26<ninkotech>btw email sucks, i do not use it anymore, with just few exceptions..
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09:29<petn-randall>ninkotech: AFAIK reportbug also works fine without adding an email address. But of course then the maintainer can't contact you.
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09:33<ninkotech>petn-randall: it refused to continue without email for me..
09:34<petn-randall>ninkotech: Ah, guess that's new.
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09:56<birch>Hi all. I have a new Kyocera Brigadier but I can't get it to transfer files using Debian. It's running 4.4.2 and I'm using Debian Wheezy 64bit current. I set the android to Media Sync Mode but I can't find it as a device. If I don't set it to Media Sync Mode, then it registers as a CDRom but I can only see a few system folders, not anywhere to put my music files. Thoughts? Here is a dmesg http://paste.debian.net/163512/
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10:02<petn-randall>birch: You want to get it to do MTP, check if you can configure that somewhere in the settings.
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10:02<birch>what is mtp?
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10:06<petn-randall>!mtp
10:06<dpkg>Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) is a Microsoft protocol for transferring images, music (etc.) between a computer and a portable device. Standardized as a USB device class in 2008. The libmtp shared library provides MTP interoperability for applications including <Amarok>, <Audacious>, <Banshee> and <Rhythmbox>; <jmtpfs> provides conventional filesystem access. See also <PTP>.
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10:19<debijit>whats the difference b/w systemd and init
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10:20<abrotman>debijit: There's a lot of documentation on the internet, start with wikipedia
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10:28<jack123asd>anyone ?
10:28<Apollo_>!ask
10:28<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:31<e280511>hola
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10:38<birch>Hi all. I have a new Kyocera Brigadier but I can't get it to transfer files using Debian. It's running 4.4.2 and I'm using Debian Wheezy 64bit current. I set the android to Media Sync Mode but I can't find it as a device. If I don't set it to Media Sync Mode, then it registers as a CDRom but I can only see a few system folders, not anywhere to put my music files. Thoughts? Here is a dmesg http://paste.debian.net/163512/ https://www.verizonwi
10:38<birch>reless.com/support/knowledge-base-106426/ My phone, but I don't have the Mass Storage option.
10:39<birch>https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-106426/ My phone, but I don't have the Mass Storage option.
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10:43<blast007>birch: have you tried various MTP software? gMTP perhaps?
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11:01<fixi>hey does anyone have an idea on how to run codeblocks on jessie?
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11:03<fixi>so far ive fetched the old debs from here
11:03<fixi>http://sourceforge.net/projects/codeblocks/files/Binaries/13.12/Linux%20%2864bit%29/codeblocks-13.12-1_amd64.debian.testing.tar.xz
11:03<fixi>but that doesnt seem too good to run 2013 dec ide
11:03<babilen_>judd: v codeblocks
11:04<judd>Package: codeblocks on i386 -- wheezy: 10.05-2.1; wheezy-backports: 13.12-1~bpo70+1; sid: 13.12-3
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11:04<babilen>fixi: Just pull it in from sid (cf. "/msg dpkg jsm")
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11:05<fixi>hm
11:08<fixi>babilen: nooo
11:08<fixi>:D
11:08<babilen>fixi: Please elaborate
11:08<fixi>somehow i must have messed up my sources.list as apt-cache policy didnt show any codeblocks results just from the unofficial repo
11:08<fixi>I'm sorry i was an idiot
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11:09<babilen>There are no officially supported unofficial repositories ;)
11:10<babilen>fixi: de-idiotification (or the "face-into-cake"-process) is one of the main goals of this channel
11:10<fixi>yea i know
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11:10<fixi>hm
11:10<fixi>something feels wrong
11:11<babilen>fixi: If you decide to go the "jessie/sid mix" route (which you should if you track a testing release) you have to ensure that you rectify the situation once jessie has been released
11:11<babilen>btw, testing and unstable are supported in #debian-next and not here (cf. /topic )
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11:11<fixi>codeblocks: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table:
11:12<fixi>oh my bad sorry
11:12<blob>Hello. It looks like the #debian-ipv6 channel is dead. Could someone explain me something about IPv6 neighbors? I think I am experiencing trouble with my gateway .
11:12<fixi>so i should also add the sid repo(unstable)
11:12<fixi>?
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11:13<fixi>thanks babilen moving there..
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11:14<ixi>blob what exactly ?
11:15<ixi>he default ipv6 config on wheezy is vulnerable
11:15<ixi>see http://madduck.net/docs/ipv6/ for reasons and solutions
11:15<blob>ixi: My gateway is listed as FAILED most of the time. It does not disrupt my IPv6 connectivity between my main interface and the outside world but might be the cause of the problems with my bridge. Is FAILED a normal state? For me it should stay in STALE mode when there is no traffic .
11:16<blob>the failed state is present at a fresh install
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11:17<ixi>blob which commands gives you this state
11:17<blob>ip -6 n
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11:17<ixi>mine is REACHABLE
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11:18<blob>Hum strange.
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11:19<ixi>blob any abnormal dmesg logs?
11:19<blob>ixi: In fact when it is REACHABLE because of some IPv6 pinging, it goes to STALE after the ping stops, and 30 sec later goes into PROBE and FAILED (INCOMPLETE before)
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11:20<blob>Nothing in the logs
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11:21<blob>ixi: I have can use my /64 IPv6 addresses from the /48 of my server's provider thus this gateway is in the /48. They toldme to configure my addresses usingthe /48 which I did, but still the same
11:22<blob>I also tried to look at the neighbor solicitation and advertisement packets, but I am no expert
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12:33<liske1>hi
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12:34<liske1>I have a problem with remmina...
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12:34<liske1>I can`t connect to Windows 7 ...
12:34<liske1>RDP
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12:51<DrZaius>can somebody explain me what is going on here? http://paste.debian.net/163542/
12:52<DrZaius>apt-get update does not fail, but it cant find a package that is supposed to be there
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12:52<DrZaius>oh, only source
12:52<DrZaius>okay... my bad
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13:19<managan>What process takes care of DNS resolving?
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13:20<managan>I've restarted my VPS multiple times, and I can't `ping google.com`
13:21<pangolinrollin>are you using custom settings in network manager? if so make sure dns spots aren't blank i've done that before -_-
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13:22<managan>There shouldn't be any custom settings, unless some program has changed it, which file are you talking about?
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13:23<managan>nvm, checking it on debian.org
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13:26<managan>well, /etc/network/interfaces can't be wrong, as I'm connected to it over ssh from 6+ countries away, unless it also handles dns server stuff
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13:31<Arrowmaster>managan: whats in /etc/resolv.conf ?
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13:31<managan>http://hastebin.com/lirixiyeji.pas :I
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13:33<Arrowmaster>thats why
13:33<Arrowmaster>no dns is set
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13:33<managan>I assumed it was set by the host (iniz.com), but for some reason I can't find the place where it's listed
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13:34<managan>Can I add `nameserver 8.8.8.8` and be good to go, or is there something else I need to run to confirm changes?
13:34<Arrowmaster>that would work for now
13:34<Arrowmaster>but it will get overwritten
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13:35<managan>at boot, I assume?
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13:35<Arrowmaster>yeah, what are you using to manage your network interfaces?
13:36<managan>I'm not using anything, the hoster is, unfortunately it's not listed in the server info
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13:36<Arrowmaster>i mean is /etc/network/interfaces being used or networkmanager
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13:37<managan>I am unaware of that, is there an easy way to check that?
13:38<Arrowmaster>does /etc/network/interfaces have stuff in it for your interfaces or is it all commented out
13:38<Dr-Shadow>tmpfs 3,9G 3,8G 78M 99% /tmp
13:38<Dr-Shadow>Is there any values for tmpfs ?
13:38<managan>It has got some stuff yeah
13:39<Arrowmaster>ok go ahead and add the nameserver line to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
13:39<Arrowmaster>that should make sure its always in your /etc/resolv.conf
13:39<Dr-Shadow>I trying to build a package which extracts data to repackage it, that's why I got a tmpfs full and I want to extend it.
13:40<managan>Arrowmaster, just "8.8.8.8" or "nameserver" too?
13:41<Arrowmaster>entire line
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13:41<Arrowmaster>so nameserver 8.8.8.8
13:41<managan>there
13:41<managan>Thanks man
13:41<Arrowmaster>when you reboot it should be in resolv.conf, just stick it in there for now if you havent already
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13:42<Arrowmaster>or run resolvconf as root
13:42<Dr-Shadow>Oh yes that was easy, I didn't think we can simply remount it
13:42<Dr-Shadow>tmpfs 10G 3,8G 6,3G 38% /tmp
13:42<Dr-Shadow>sudo mount -o remount,size=10G tmpfs /tmp/
13:42<Arrowmaster>not sure if it needs other arguments if you run resolvconf manually
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14:22<Ionic>does anyone here use qemubuilder for cleanly building packages, sees random kernel panics and has any idea how to fix them? it seems to be a race condition between unmounting the data disk image and re-creating it, but I haven't found out what's wrong exactly
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15:36<Rogue_Spider>is anyone on who could possibly talk me through a dev mapper problem im having?
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16:07<azuth>hello.. I'd like to look into compiling a custom kernel. are there any websites or applications that would allow me to specify my hardware and then provide reccomendations/requirements for my kernel?
16:07<valdyn>azuth: thats silly
16:07<azuth>how so?
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16:08<valdyn>azuth: a custom kernel does not make it better. Only by having very specific demands and in depth expertise one *might* be able to create a custom kernel that is better than what is provided by debian.
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16:09<valdyn>azuth: AI is not that far, but even if it was the benefits may be insignificant for you.
16:09<azuth>valdyn: maybe i'm not using the right words.. I don't mean to create my own kernel.. I mean to compile a kernel from source using the modules and such that are specific to my hardware
16:09<valdyn>azuth: to what end?
16:09<azuth>well right now I have a freshly installed system that just won't boot
16:10<azuth>so i'm guessing that there's an issue with something in the already compiled kernel that doesn't work with my hardware
16:10<valdyn>azuth: guessing?
16:10<valdyn>azuth: have you googled the error?
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16:11<azuth>extensively.. it doesn't seem to be common enough to have a simle fix
16:11<valdyn>azuth: hardware support is not compiled into the kernel
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16:11<azuth>the kernel includes drivers, yes?
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16:11<valdyn>azuth: if you cant google it, ask people who might know, like this channel.
16:12<azuth>maybe the drivers included in the public pre-packaged kernels don't have the drivers that I need
16:12<azuth>or aren't the ones that work correctly with my computer parts i mean to say
16:12<valdyn>azuth: computers are not about guessing
16:12<azuth>yes.. i know that computers are very specific...
16:13<valdyn>azuth: help people help you by giving specific information
16:13<azuth>so basically there are no websites or tools that can help me
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16:13<valdyn>azuth: im telling you that what you want is not the solution even if it existed. But it does not even exist.
16:14<valdyn>!xy problem
16:14<dpkg>Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to do proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
16:14<valdyn>azuth: thats the factoid for your case :)
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16:14<azuth>so then who would compile their own kernel? only 40 year linux veterans who know every package and every piece?
16:14<valdyn>azuth: hobbyists and people with very specific demands
16:15<azuth>i have a very specific demand.. my system won't boot and nobody on the internet knows why
16:15<azuth>or at least multiple google searches would lead me to believe that
16:15<valdyn>azuth: specific demand kind of implies understanding it.
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16:16<azuth>i do understand it.. what i don't want to do is have to track down every single package that would work for my hardware
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16:16<valdyn>azuth: why dont you tell us your issue in detail - im sure someone here knows how you can solve it.
16:16<azuth>so i was hoping there might be a resource out there that lets you put in your specs and gives recommendations on patches and modules and such
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16:17<azuth>ok my system won't boot.. it just keeps scrolling "ata1.00: status: { DRDY
16:17<azuth>ata1.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
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16:18<valdyn>azuth: harddisk broken
16:18<azuth>negative
16:18<azuth>works fine in windows
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16:18<valdyn>azuth: what can it not boot? debian wheezy?
16:19<azuth>yes
16:19<valdyn>azuth: try the jessie installer
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16:20<azuth>that seems like a lazy solution to me
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16:20<azuth>just try a different pre-compiled kernel
16:20<valdyn>azuth: why does that matter?
16:21<azuth>because i don't want to just throw laziness at the problem.. i want to know which module specificially doesn't work with my system
16:21<azuth>and why it doesn't for that matter.. i'm using bleeding edge hardware
16:21<azuth>well.. bleeding edge may not be accurate
16:21<azuth>it's about a year or so old
16:21<valdyn>azuth: bleeding edge hardware cannot be supported by wheezy, because wheezy is not bleeding edge
16:22<valdyn>azuth: wheezy is older
16:22<azuth>i guess that makes sense
16:23<valdyn>azuth: its still not unlikely that your hardware is broken, but you can see that soon enough - and trying jessie is easy enough
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16:24<MozillaFirefox>Hello everybody! (sorry for interrupting) It's my first time here so please excuse me if I'm missing something... I have a Debian Wheezy machine, have been facing a mysterious problem, and wondering if you could help me... So, at random times, the system -totally- hangs. Just like that. No tty access, no sysrq, nothing. The logs ar clear. It's as if everything freezes at this point. Any music
16:24<MozillaFirefox>playing loops for a while and then halts. I can't do anything other than hard reboot the thing. Any ideas? Thanks.
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16:25<valdyn>azuth: the first thing *I* would do if i could still boot windows is run a smart check from there
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16:25<awal>I use 'unzip' for extract .zip files via terminal but I would like make 'pcmanfm' do that for me. I mean, when clicking with right mouse button in the .zip file pcmanfm suggest extraction but nothing happens clicking in 'extrat to' or 'extract here' because I only have 'unzip' and it a command line utility. How to integrate 'unzip' to 'pcmanfm'?
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16:26<valdyn>MozillaFirefox: change the kernel, if the problem persists *exactly* like that, log to a serial console, see if you get something useful there.
16:27<valdyn>MozillaFirefox: the most likely cause is broken hardware. Of course the kernel might have a bug to. The serial console is the most realiable way to get the last error messages, if there's any.
16:27<valdyn>MozillaFirefox: you can get a different kernel from bpo
16:27<valdyn>!bpo
16:27<dpkg>backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>.
16:27<valdyn>MozillaFirefox: ^^
16:29<MozillaFirefox>valdyn: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll swap the kernel. One more thing, I do happen to suspect the nvidia drivers, because as one time it happened, there were artifacts on the display. The drivers are not the stable from the repos, but the ones from nvidia's site.
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16:29<MozillaFirefox>should i try swapping these too?
16:29<valdyn>MozillaFirefox: yes
16:30<valdyn>MozillaFirefox: or try to reproduce the error while using nouveau drivers instead or no X at all.
16:30<valdyn>MozillaFirefox: of course you can only guess like that till you get some kind of error message...
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16:33<MozillaFirefox>valdyn: yes, I'll try the stable nvidia drivers first, and if the problem persists, the nouveau ones, and swapping the kernel. The only issue is that the system hangs only at random times, and in a rare fashion. I'll be closely monitoring it however.
16:33<MozillaFirefox>Thank you
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19:13<kiu>hello people...
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19:17<kiu>I got some question?...how can recover my /opt file, I dont know where it goes...there is a chance to get back...
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19:20<kiu>I'm using Foremost to recover the all thing but I wonder if there's another option...thankx
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19:49<awal>,v xarchiver
19:49<judd>Package: xarchiver on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.5.2+20090319+dfsg-4; wheezy: 1:0.5.2+20090319+dfsg-4.1; jessie: 1:0.5.4-1; sid: 1:0.5.4-1
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19:52<ramich>hallo
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20:20<Thinthread>cheers all
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20:32<ramich>hallo
20:32<Thinthread>evening ramich
20:33<ramich>ja, guten abend
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20:33<DougSlug>!list
20:33<dpkg>dougslug: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso !
20:33<Thinthread>finally friday :)
20:33<DougSlug>yay friday!
20:33<ramich>friday?
20:34<ramich>sonnabend is
20:34<Thinthread>or well saturday if i shall use my own timezone but. Let's be international for a while
20:35<themill>(It's Saturday for most of the world)
20:35<DougSlug>friday is a state of mind
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20:40<Thinthread>Have to agree with DougSlug, just to not be embarressed :$
20:40<DougSlug>haha
20:40<DougSlug>thanks
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21:46<baniel>xubuntu~~~~
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21:47<baniel>Is there anyone???
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21:55<awal>apt-cache show packagename is confusing. One don't know if the pack is installed or not
21:56<awal>aptitude indicates 'installed/not installed'. how to know that with apt? apt-cache policy? no way with apt-cache show?
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22:01<ramich>hallo
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23:10<Guest262>Hi guys, this is going to be a newb question I'm sure. I'm following https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/Trackpoint and te instructions say to "...put the following in ~/.xsessionrc" I can't seem to find .xsessionrc in the home folder. Does .bashrc do the same thing?
23:12<sney>make a new .xsessionrc
23:12<dvs>Guest262: Create the .xsessionrc file
23:12<somiaj>sney: it really says .xsessionrc and not .xsession? Debian uses .xsession
23:12<somiaj>Guest262: ^^^, also you can juust create that file if it is not there as others say
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23:14<somiaj>Guest262: all putting them in .xsession will do is run those commands at the start of xorg. But What I would suggest is run those commands in a terminal and make sure they work as expected. Then add them to the startup scripts of whatever desktop you use.
23:17<Guest262>Thanks guys. I don't see a .xsession in the home folder either. I'm using Gnome, the default. Should I just put those scripts in the "Startup Applications" should do the same thing
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23:18<Guest262>or I can just make .xsession and put them there. Many thanks.
23:19<somiaj>Guest262: I am unsure if the gnome xsession will also run things in .xsession by default. I would suggest writing a small script and then adding it to your gnome startup applications
23:19<somiaj>or make an xorg.conf.d snippit and have it laoded there
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23:27<Guest262>Okay. I can just put the 3 commands (one per line) in a .sh file and execute that with the other startup applications. I am unfamiliar with what or where a conf.d script goes
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23:28<somiaj>Guest262: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10_mouse.conf (something like that). But the syntax is different when using xorg.conf file (configuring xorg at start) vs running those xinput commands to change settings on a running server. Either works, use what you like or understand.
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23:40<lean>Putting the commands in an SH file and adding them to startup did the trick. Thanks for the idea
23:40<somiaj>lean: (:
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