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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-03-28

---Logopened Sat Mar 28 00:00:08 2015
---Daychanged Sat Mar 28 2015
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03:58<martin_>hello. i'm trying to install vlc on debian using and it kept asking for version 7.5 cd. now that my debian is on 7.8 and i mounted the 7.8 .iso but it won't take it. any suggestion?
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03:59<martin_>using synaptic
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04:38<knosys>Hello. Guys I am trying to install netbeans in debian with xorg and a window manager, without gnome or kde packages installed. I can run all graphical programs before, but not this one. I reeaded netbeans installation instructions and troubleshooting but no luck..
04:38<knosys>do someone know what are the package i need to run properly the netbeans .sh installer?
04:38<knosys>When i try to run it, i just see an empty window, cant see the content
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06:46<sigur>debian testing problem: if I shutdown X (via ctrl+alt+backspace or via i3 shortcut) the screen goes blank (well to be more precise it's all black), without the console (don't think it's the exact term). Anyway, the console is still there under "the darkness", since if I press arrow up and then enter X starts again, forthe last command I gave was startx
06:47<sigur>/var/log/Xorg doesn't say anything relevant (or at least nothing that I find relevant)
06:47<sigur>where should I look?
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10:22<marc-etienne>hello, I'm having trouble compiling my kernel with make-kpkg
10:23<marc-etienne>It compiles just fine but can't boot it, grub throws: "error: invalid magic number"
10:23<marc-etienne>I run debian-packaged kernel 3.16.7-ckt4-3~bpo70+1 just fine, I have latest grub2 from Debian 7
10:25<marc-etienne>I tried to compile 3.16.7 (same version that's running) from source and gives the same error
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10:27<marc-etienne>linux-image-3.19.0-trunk-amd64_3.19.1-1~exp1_amd64 from Experimantal also fails with the same error
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10:29<marc-etienne>my rootfs is a raid-1 btrfs, I wonder if that could be related
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11:14<valdyn>marc-etienne: its probably not related
11:14<valdyn>marc-etienne: jessie boots that setup just fine
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11:14<valdyn>marc-etienne: err, if you have grub from wheezy, then this probably cant work indeed
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11:25<skrondo>hi
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11:29<patrick1337>hello !
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11:29<patrick1337>debian is a great os !
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11:30<centrx>!debian rules
11:30<dpkg>centrx, werd up
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11:37<skrondo>hallo
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12:33<awal>How to restore apps (like audacious, vlc, hexchat...) closed to system tray using only keyboard under WM's like openbox and fluxbox?
12:34<awal>Under gnome thats possible pressing super+m for get the message area, select the desired app icon with right/left keys then press enter.
12:34<awal>gnome-shell ^
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13:09<blueVenom>is this the correct chat room for possibly filing a bug?
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13:11<somiaj>blueVenom: Is this about debian stable (wheezy) or #debian-next (testing/unstable).
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13:11<somiaj>blueVenom: also have you already searched the BTS to see if the bug you think you ahve has been reported?
13:11<blueVenom>which is the correct BTS for Jessie?
13:11<whitepcx>hello
13:11<somiaj>bugs.debian.org is the BTS for all of debian
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13:12<blueVenom>I will double check before filing, the issue is between gnome3, ati catalyst, and debian jessie
13:12<somiaj>and for jessie bugs it is better to discuss them in #debian-next if you want to see if it is a bug or not.
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13:12<blueVenom>thanks for pointing me in the right direction somiaj
13:12<somiaj>blueVenom: are you using the fglrx drivers provided by debian or grabbing the catalyst drivers from upstream and using thir install script to install them?
13:13<blueVenom>i have done both
13:13<blueVenom>i found a related bug in fedora via google search, and was curious if there is a similar bug filed for debian
13:14<somiaj>debian does not support and doesn't play nicely with the upstream drivers from ATI (partly due to they don't play nicely with debian and dpkg has no idea what files were installed/changed and my just overwrite them)
13:14<somiaj>That being said if you have used ati's install script it is possible you have messed up your debian system and thus dont' have a bug per say. I would suggest trying a clean enviorment with the fglrx-drivers from the debian repos.
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13:15<somiaj>If the bug persists (i.e. is reproducable) in a clean enviorment with the debian provided packages from non-free, then that is a bug you can report.
13:15<blueVenom>gnome-flashback works flawlessly. gnome and gdm3 are where the issues are
13:16<somiaj>blueVenom: yea to know more I would want to see things like /var/log/Xorg.0.log, the output of 'xvinfo' and 'glxinfo', but only on a system where you have a clean install of the drivers from debian provided packages.
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13:19<somiaj>blueVenom: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=fglrx-driver;dist=unstable
13:20<somiaj>blueVenom: I have to go, but if you need more help on figuring out what the issue is, I suggest using #debian-next on this same network
13:20<blueVenom>thanks
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13:44<ondrej_g>hi, is there something like dnsmasq that could be forced to use TCP only? I need this because sshuttle can intercep only TCP.
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14:56<how>hi everyone
14:57<Chanku>Hey
14:58<valdyn>ondrej_g: any dns server will probably support tcp, but you cant do dhcp over tcp. Which part of dnsmasq are you talking about?
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14:58<how>"aptitude -f install" shows me a lot of fixes I need to do, but "apt-get install -f" shows none, do anyone know what is going on with aptitude?
14:58<TotalEclipse>Hello
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15:00<Chanku>I could use help trying to figure out how to get my PS3 controller working....preferably wirelessly as well (on Debian Wheezy...)
15:00<valdyn>how: packages can be marked as installed as dependency or as explicitely installed. These marks are maintained seperately by apt-get and aptitude - dont mix those 2 tools
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15:02<how>valdyn: thanks, I will try to use one of them in the future.
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15:05<somiaj>Chanku: I'm unsure how to get it to work with wireless, but my experience was just plugging it via usb was enough to get it to work on my system. (then I had to just run some joystick configuration tool)
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15:05<Chanku>I mean I kinda need to get it working wirelessly, mainly because my cord is rather short....
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15:07<somiaj>Chanku: I'm unsure how it works with wirless, I don't think it is bluetooth and I'm unsure what you would need to pair the device with your system.
15:07<somiaj>Chanku: it might be bluetooth, it might be its own wireless protocol.
15:07<Chanku>IIRC it does use bluetooth
15:08<Chanku>but it uses it differently than standard
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15:15<somiaj>Chanku: maybe try google, but you may be out of luck. Get a longer usb cable. (:
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15:29<raquel>hi
15:29<raquel>anyone there?
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15:30<abrotman>lots of people
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15:33<hugomg>hello, can someone help me with a permission issue for a game package? I am trying to fix a bug in the xjump package. I downloaded the source with apt-get source and built the package with "debuild -us -uc". But when I try to run ./debian/xjump/usr/games/xjump, it gives an error message "Permission denied; cannot record highscores". I think this has to do with the highscores file being owned by the "games" group. Is there a post-build s
15:33<hugomg>cript that I need to run or some special way to call the xjump executable that will get the highscores to work? The bug I want to fix is precisely related to highscores...
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15:33<centrx>!ask
15:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
15:34<centrx>hugomg, #debian-mentors might be a better channel for this question
15:34<hugomg>ooh, sorry then :)
15:36<somiaj>hugomg: There are various options I see. One is just let the highschores file be writeable by everyone. Another is put a setuid bit on the game binary so it runs as a user that can access the highscores file, third would be test if the user is in the 'games' group, if they are procede normally. If they are not put the highscores file in $HOME but this will keep the highscores from being system wide.
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15:37<somiaj>hugomg: seems you probabaly want to set the uid bit of the game executable. This is a standard permisions thing (though unsure how to make sure it carries over to the package and sets the uid correctly on various systems)
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15:38<somiaj>oh looks like there is a set gid bit too, maybe use that. Force the binary to run in the games group. This way you can use the default 'games' group and not have to create a special user.
15:39<hugomg>im wondering if there is an easier way to go around this problem or if I need to set the permissions by hand
15:39<hugomg>when you install the package "for real" on your root tree, it has scripts that set all those permissions correctly
15:39<somiaj>well ideally the package would set them all, but yes you will have to configure this by hand to get it to work. Most likely adding the sgid bit to the binary and making sure the binary is in the games group should be sufficent.
15:40<somiaj>hugomg: so this is already done by the package and the bug is, it doesn't work if you just extract the package into a local install (like a users $HOME dir)?
15:40<hugomg>I was wondering if there was a way to take advantage of those... is there a way to "test" a package without actually installing it for real?
15:41<somiaj>hugomg: not really espically if the postinst scripts do things that are important to make it run.
15:41<somiaj>hugomg: tests are usually done in some sandbox enviorment like a chroot or a vm.
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15:41<hugomg>is installing on a sandbox easy?
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15:42<somiaj>hugomg: chroots are easy, but they require extra work if you are testing a graphical app (console apps are easy to test inside a chroot)
15:42<somiaj>hugomg: vm's aren't to difficult but there is a learning curve to setting them up.
15:43<somiaj>but once you have a chroot or vm to play with, installs are just like any where else. The issue is you have a clean system to test on without messing with your current system
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15:46<hugomg>hmm, ok then. I guess I'll do the testing on a VM. Transferring the files back and forth is a bit annoying but at least I know how that its gonna work... btw, whats the command that I should run to install the package after I build it with debuild?
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15:47<somiaj>hugomg: dpkg is the tool for manging packages (apt is just a front end that deals with internet sources and depdencies)
15:47<somiaj>hugomg: so dpkg -i package.deb works, but you sometimes have to 'fix' it to get all the depends installed if you didn't have them installed at start
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15:48<somiaj>hugomg: if everything is nice, apt-get -f install will usually find the missing depends for you after your dpkg -i foo.deb command fails.
15:49<hugomg>ok, thanks a lot somiaj
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15:51<corey>hey guys need help with virtualbox- taking linux at college but need to virtualize ubuntu for it- cant bump the gigs to 4 gigs and i got an 750 hdd
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15:52<hugomg>are you talking about gigs of hard drive of gigs of RAM?
15:52<corey>both
15:52<musca>corey: which host os do you use?
15:52<hugomg>how much RAM does your physical computer have?
15:52<corey>i cant move from 512 - neptune- 750
15:53<hugomg>I would only recommend giving 4 gigs of ram to the VM if your full machine has 8+ gigs of ram total
15:54<jhutchins>corey: There's a #vbox channel on freenode
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15:55<corey>ok - this first time i seen this chat active glad i came here first- almost went to the mint
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16:03<whitepcx>한국분은 없으세요?
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16:05<musca>hello whitepcx, this channel uses english language, please.
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16:09<babilen>!kr
16:09<dpkg>somebody said kr was Korea (South)
16:09<babilen>No shit sherlock :)
16:10<centrx>don't blame dpkg, he's a volunteer
16:10<Anonas>Can dos 78.56.74.108 ???
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16:12<jpleau>Anyone know how I could test a .desktop file? Running "xdg-open file.desktop" opens it with gvim
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16:19<Mendex>Hello
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16:20<hugomg>jpleau: using xdg-open works fine for me...
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16:20<Mendex>Debian 8 use GNOME software or software center?
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16:21<devil_>Mendex: Software
16:22<Mendex>devil_: thanks
16:22<centrx>uh what?
16:22<devil_>Gnome Software, isn't it?
16:23<Mendex>is alternative software-center
16:24<devil_>I would see it the other way around
16:25<centrx>Are you saying there's a Gnome app just called "Software"?
16:26<Mendex>wiki.gnome.org/apps/software
16:26<centrx>confirmed, gosh
16:26<devil_>sure. gnome has a lot of generic names these days. the filemanager is Files
16:26<devil_>sucks big time
16:26<centrx>even Apple calls it Update Center or whatever
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16:26*Chanku sighs
16:26*centrx switches to CDE
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16:27<devil_>specialy for authors when you have to write; the file manager files...
16:27*devil_ stays with KDE
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16:36<birch>Hey all, having some networking problems. My laptop isn't working with the ethernet port, just the wifi. Here's some output from dmesg http://paste.debian.net/163711/ and ifconfig http://paste.debian.net/163710/ . Thoughts? Thanks!
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16:37<birch>^^Notice lines 16-40 in http://paste.debian.net/163711/
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16:40<jpleau>hugomg: :/ not sure then hehe
16:40<devil_>birch: are you using ipv6 on purpose?
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16:41<birch>devil_, I'm using whatever I need to get it to work. Should I not be? I don't know or care, tbh. What do you recommend?
16:41<birch>I'm just tired of high latency over wifi on this machine so I want ethernet to work.
16:42<Chanku>Welp I got my PS3 controller working
16:42<devil_>birch: did it ever work?
16:42<devil_>birch: I do not know much about ipv6, just saw you were using it
16:43<birch>devil_, I'm not sure. I set this machine up a few years ago and it's not mine, so I don't use it that often. It's possible it did or didn't.
16:43<birch>I just want it to work today lol
16:43<devil_>according to ifconfig it sahould even be working
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16:43<birch>should or shouldn't?
16:43<devil_>should
16:44<devil_>need to go for now, dinner
16:44<birch>well when I disconnect wifi and plug in the ethernet, I just get no connection pages from iceweasel
16:44<devil_>birch: ifup eth0?
16:44<birch>cya, enjoy
16:44<birch>ifup: interface eth0 already configured
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16:46<devil_>yeah, shouldwork ™
16:46<birch>ifup eth0:avahi
16:46<birch>Ignoring unknown interface eth0:avahi=eth0:avahi.
16:46<birch>because look at those lines 16-40
16:46<birch>that's the device that is active, right?
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16:47<devil_>no idea where you got eth0:avahi from
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16:47<devil_>later
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16:49<birch>ifconfig
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17:06<Dublew>I'm having some trouble with the synaptics driver i think
17:06<Dublew>every time I even touch the touchpad, I am logged out of my account
17:07<birch>that is a problem
17:07<birch>never heard of that before
17:07<birch>i can't help you, but i hope you get helped
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17:08<Dublew>no worries, cheers :)
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17:51<jrabbit>is there a best practices to get apt-get update automatically running say daily?
17:52<dvs>nope
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17:52<canaima>j
17:52<canaima>hola
17:52<canaima>hello
17:53<devil_>!ask
17:53<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
17:53<canaima>nop
17:54<canaima>your talk Spanish
17:54<devil_>no
17:54<devil_>!es
17:54<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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17:55<canaima>hola
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18:21<jrabbit>centrx: cool thx
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19:01<iostab>Hello. I currently have an encrypted drive using LUKS, and it runs a debian system. In order to boot it, I have the boot partition on another disk to boot up. How can I change which disk has the boot partition?
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19:02<iostab>I should add that I want to also be able to boot via flash drive boot partition.
19:03<valdyn>iostab: while being live (booted) or before that?
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19:03<iostab>valdyn: please elaborate.
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19:04<valdyn>iostab: this is done differently depending if you want to change /boot after being booted up in debian or if you need to do this before debian boots up ( in the boot manager )
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19:05<iostab>I would like to know how to do it when debian is up, but it would be handy to know how to do it in GRUB, too
19:06<valdyn>iostab: edit /etc/fstab, run "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)"; run "update-grub"
19:06<valdyn>iostab: if you need to start this from grub, then you need to edit entry in grub, hit the "E" key and edit
19:07<valdyn>iostab: and *then* you do the same as I said first
19:08<iostab>would it still be possible to do, even though the debian install is fully encrypted while within GRUB?
19:08<valdyn>iostab: the dpkg-reconfigure step might actually be redundant because update-grub does that anyway
19:08<valdyn>iostab: of course the place where /boot is cannot be encrypted
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19:09<iostab>valdyn: so that would mean that the fstab I edit is going to be in the /boot partition?
19:09<valdyn>iostab: no, its in /etc/
19:09<valdyn>iostab: why would you think it needed to be in /boot ?
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19:10<iostab>this is confusing. So /etc/fstab is indeed in the boot partition
19:10<valdyn>iostab: that might be of course, depends on your layout
19:11<valdyn>iostab: /boot partition kind of implies that /boot is on a seperate partition, but you dont seem to have that
19:12<iostab>But I do
19:12<iostab>valdyn: /boot is on another disk
19:12<blast007>so then /etc isn't on your boot partition ;)
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19:13<iostab>okay, so when in GRUB, if I try to go to edit /etc/fstab, I would be ending up with an encrypted drive that is locked. Would that be the case?
19:13<valdyn>iostab: you cant edit fstab from GRUB
19:14<blast007>you're not editing /etc/fstab from the GRUB menu. You're just editing the GRUB command line for a single boot.
19:14<valdyn>iostab: when in grub you only edit for this one boot, its not saved
19:14<iostab>oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
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19:14<iostab>valdyn: bingo. Now I need some help editing fstab.
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19:18<blast007>!uuid
19:18<dpkg>A Universally Unique IDentifier (UUID) is used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with 'blkid'. In /etc/fstab, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. UUIDs help to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire.
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19:24<iostab>blast007: thanks. Now if I create a new /boot, do I have to run any commands to make it usable as a boot drive other than dpkg-reconfigure...blah blah
19:26<blast007>might have to do a grub-install for the new boot device (pointing it towards the base device, not the partition on the device), but I've never moved to a different boot drive before
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19:34<iostab>what is kworker
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22:14<aidalgol>How can I force my video card to output on a port other than the one it auto-selected at boot time?
22:15<aidalgol>Not to use multiple displays, but to either switch to a different output port or duplicate the display output on another port.
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22:56<awal>Is there any utility for check if the LCD of my old laptop is damaged, going to be damaged or somethining is is going wrong with it?
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23:01<closingin>hi all, could someone help me with vsftpd ? I added a chroot jail to prevent users exploring my filesystem, but when i enable ssl, the jail gets disabled
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23:03<awal>Kernel messages are always displayed during boot but, no mater which DM I use I get black screen 80 % of the time, except when I use WDM. With wdm I get black screen very rarely. Also when I switch to ttyX I get a black screen when I came back to X (tty7). I suspect that my issue is LCD related. But if it were LCD, I should have the same symptoms during boot, I believe. Any suggestion where to look for know what happen exactly?
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23:05<awal>tried xdm, lightdm, gdm3, lxdm and kdm and black screen is persistent. except with wdm. with wdm I got black screen after boot only 1 time
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23:08<awal>I never get black screen when in graphical interface (I run fluxbox/openbox). black screen only when DM is reached or when I switch between tty7 and other tty's. Any suggestion?
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23:18<pi_user_84>greetings everyone
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23:34<grantwu>Hi, I'm having trouble building a kernel module to fix compatibility issues with my Yoga 2 Pro as detailed https://github.com/pfps/yoga-laptop
23:35<grantwu>Specifically, I don't know what the kernel-devel package refers to
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23:39<awal>grantwu: check if there is #debian-kernel you may find that channel more helpful
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23:51<corey>hi guys
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23:52<corey>no go on the virtualbox
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