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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-03-29

---Logopened Sun Mar 29 00:00:11 2015
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00:45<valdez>Errors were encountered while processing:
00:45<valdez> /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae_3.2.65-1+deb7u2_i386.deb
00:45<valdez>E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
00:45<valdez>I tried updating and got this message any idea why?
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00:49<awal>valdez: probably a dep problem/bug
00:50<awal>valdez: try apt-get -f install
00:52<awal>i should enable users leaving and entering to channels :P
00:56<gnumech>XD Ah well, you tried
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03:38<skrondo_>buongiorno a tutti
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09:51<Julz->Does anyone know what is wrong: I select debian from grub and then it starts booting up, but suddenly a white box appears in the left upper corner. It still boots and works fine but what is up with the white box?
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10:43<Vikinger>how to upgrade my 32 bits OS to 64 bits
10:43<Vikinger>?
10:43<antonio>xD
10:43<antonio>you need a new computer
10:44<Vikinger>:P
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10:45<AberHatschi>Vikinger, maby it helps https://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit
10:45<Vikinger>ive seen that
10:46<Vikinger>what i want is to just install the 64bits OS again, since i have my home partition separated
10:47<Vikinger>i just remembered the new OS is not going to recognise the users
10:47<dvs>Vikinger: If your home directory is on a separate partition, then you can just reinstall the system
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11:50<greenit>hi, i want to have experimental in the sources-list as i want to pull in 1-2 packages from it, so i added the line in /etc/apt/sources.list . However, when i check policies with "apt-cache policy" it shows the following: http://paste.debian.net/163804/ is this now correct, so that no packages are pulled from experimental unless i say so, or will it use experimental everytime?
11:50<greenit>wait, where is the rest of my post? :(
11:51<greenit>hi, i want to have experimental in the sources-list as i want to pull in 1-2 packages from it, so i added the line in /etc/apt/sources.list . However, when i check policies with "apt-cache policy" it shows the following: http://paste.debian.net/163804/ is this now correct, so that no packages are pulled from experimental unless i say so, or will it use experimental everytime?
11:51<greenit>oh, sorry for the double-post
11:51<greenit>wrong key :S
11:52<valdyn>greenit: it should be ok, but try "apt-cache policy <packagename>" where one package is available in testing *and* in experimental
11:54<greenit>valdyn, ok, iceweasel shows 36.0.4 in experimental with "1" as weight... so it won't install automatically, right? my second question is, when i install iceweasel from experimental, will it be automatically updated when there is a new version in experimental and i use "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"?
11:55<valdyn>greenit: it wont
11:55<valdyn>!pin
11:55<dpkg>Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
11:55<greenit>valdyn, ok, thanks
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11:56<valdyn>greenit: or better, just upgrade manually
11:56<valdyn>greenit: having experimental auto-upgrade can be quite dangerous
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11:59<greenit>valdyn, ok, what do i have to "upgrade manually" from experimental? just "apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel" when a newer version is in experimental?
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11:59<valdyn>greenit: yes
11:59<greenit>valdyn, ok, thanks again :)
12:00<valdyn>judd: versions iceweasel
12:00<judd>Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 31.3.0esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 31.5.0esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 31.5.3esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 31.5.3esr-1; jessie: 31.5.3esr-1; experimental: 36.0.4-1
12:01<greenit>interesting.... i have iceweasel 35.x on my other notebook... seems like i have to look into the pinning of it :)
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12:01<kfheleni>my system enters emergency mode at boot (debugging is really hard, since for some reason I can't enable openssh). And my journalctl -> https://bpaste.net/show/45e95c51ca1f
12:01<kfheleni>any help?
12:03<valdyn>kfheleni: does your system need dev-mapper-katiska to boot?
12:03<valdyn>!nofail
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12:04<kfheleni>valdyn: it needs dev-mapper-katiska00, which is my os partition
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12:05<valdyn>dpkg: nofail is<reply>Systemd by default does not let your system boot if any filesystem fails to mount. You can prevent that by adding the mount option "nofail" in /etc/fstab to non-essential filesystems.
12:05<dpkg>valdyn: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
12:05<valdyn>fuck
12:05<sney>do it in a query
12:06<valdyn>sney: really? Cant do it here?
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12:07<kfheleni>also during boot it mentions lvmetad.socket connect failing or something
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12:08<valdyn>kfheleni: is it just stuck or do you get the busybox shell?
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12:10<kfheleni>valdyn: busybox shell?
12:10<valdyn>kfheleni: doesnt mattter, do you get a shell? is it completely stuck and you cant enter commands?
12:10<kfheleni>I can enter commands
12:10<valdyn>kfheleni: run "vgchange -ay"
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12:12<kfheleni>I tried vgchange -ay and systemctl default earlier
12:12<valdyn>kfheleni: and?
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12:15<kfheleni>well after vgchange -ay volumegroups come active, but after systemctl default server stops responding
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12:16<kfheleni>valdyn: ^
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12:19<kfheleni>at boot I get "failed to connect to lvmetad"
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12:19<valdyn>kfheleni: you can purge lvmetad actually
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12:19<kfheleni>I'm open to anything that helps
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12:20<valdyn>kfheleni: is this correct? the ip you are handed in dhcp is fine, just later something you cant show is causing the network (or the ssh service) to be broken?
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12:21<kfheleni>it responds to ping and everything but I can't start ssh service
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12:22<kfheleni>which makes debugging quite infuriating since I need to physically get to that damn thing
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12:23<valdyn>kfheleni: firewall settings?
12:23<kfheleni>I haven't touched anything firewall related in 2 years
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12:24<kfheleni>during last week I added 1 disk to my raid-array, last night the whole house had some internet (router?) problems and during that my server stopped responding
12:25<valdyn>kfheleni: lvmetad is not used by default i think
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12:26<valdyn>kfheleni: you can check : /etc/lvm/lvm.conf contains "use_lvmetad=..."
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12:26<kfheleni>I'm quite sure that I set that to 1
12:26<valdyn>kfheleni: set it to 0 now
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12:26<valdyn>kfheleni: after that, regenerate your initrd
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12:27<valdyn>kfheleni: and about your firewall - you might not have touched it for 2 years, but if your system is that old then systemd is a major change that might have broken it
12:28<valdyn>kfheleni: so if its in any way possible that firewall settings are locking you out, you need to disable it for now...
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12:29<kfheleni>valdyn: I can't even locally 'ssh localhost'...
12:30<valdyn>kfheleni: oh, ok, not the fw then
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12:31<valdyn>kfheleni: lvmetad does nothing for me, and that system has 12 disks. I dont really know at what size it becomes useful.
12:32<valdyn>kfheleni: anyway, see if your system boots ok after the initrd is regenerated
12:32<kfheleni>for now I set use_lvmetad to 0, then what?
12:33<valdyn>kfheleni: "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)"
12:33<valdyn>kfheleni: regenerate the initrd ^^
12:33<kfheleni>ah, yes
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12:39<kfheleni>valdyn: ok, disabling use_lvmetad and rebuilding initrd did the trick
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12:40<kfheleni>any idea what might have happened during last night? usually things break right after, or atleast soon after doing something
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12:40<kfheleni>on their own, not so often :)
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12:48<kfheleni>anyway, valdyn thanks :)
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13:12<kfheleni>haha, managed to nuke my irc configs
13:13<kfheleni>only damn file of which I apparently had no back ups
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14:03<lantizia>Hey... I have a PC that has no vga so I watch debian boot up over serial - i see everything boot up just normal until the point the text login screen is supposed to appear - but it doesn't - any guesses why?
14:03<lantizia>and no I don't have X installed - it's not attempting a graphical login screen
14:03<lantizia>do i need to alter pam.d/login or something?
14:05<Kjetil>I guess you don't have a tty line in /etc/inittab for your serial port
14:05<Kjetil>Look for a line containing ttys0 and uncomment it
14:06<Kjetil>ttyS0*
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14:07<lantizia>perfect! thanks
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14:26<krabador>di
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14:39<raven042>hi
14:40<raven042>first time on irc
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15:12<alpha224683>hfdfg
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15:19<bellicot>salve
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15:20<Enigm-x>salve
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15:23<Julz->Does anyone know what is wrong: I select debian from grub and then it starts booting up, but suddenly a white box appears in the left upper corner. It still boots and works fine but what is up with the white box?
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15:29<duffy>help im new!!! i have lxle and i love it!! but i need to install nvidia 420go can anyone help?
15:30<mtn>duffy: did you check the debian wiki?
15:30<duffy>debian wiki? ie on firefox browser?
15:30<mtn>duffy: yes, it is a website
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15:31<duffy>will do Mtn and thank you. as i said im very new to linux and i love it.
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15:31<srbaker>heya folks
15:31<srbaker>having a problem with some module options
15:31<srbaker>in /etc/modprobe.d/hid_apple.conf i have
15:31<mtn>duffy: always keep the wiki in mind for answers to using debian :)
15:31<srbaker>options hid_apple swap_opt_cmd=1
15:31<srbaker>but it's not taking :(
15:32<duffy>ill put it on my bookmarks. Mtn :-) and thank you again.
15:32<mtn>duffy: welcome
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15:33<srbaker>hrm
15:33<srbaker>let me try something
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15:35<kurwa>https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nr4ndg2h6sfzcc/zxc?dl=0
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15:38<Flint>hello everyone. Could anyone tell me, what I must do to update my debian to from wheezy to jessie?
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15:43<DrZaius>Flint: change stable for testing in your sources.list... apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
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15:44<mtn>Flint: you should use "jessie" instead of "testing", if you want to keep running jessie after it is stable
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15:46<DrZaius>right... i just wanted to enphasize the fact that hes upgrading to testing from stable :)
15:46<DrZaius>since jessie isnt released yet
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15:48<Flint>under etc/apt right?
15:49<mtn>!testing
15:49<dpkg>Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <jessie>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <wheezy->jessie> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers.
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15:49<DrZaius>Flint: right
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15:52<Flint>and what do I need to change? I'm sorry that i'm asking this much, I'm new to this all ^^
15:52<mtn>Flint: read the link that is on the screen. it will be very useful ;)
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15:56<bhuvankrishna>I am trying to install xulrunner and when I try to search for xulrunner I don't have any package other than iceweasel-dev
15:56<bhuvankrishna>is there a way to install it?
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16:04<Flint>so i simply have to exchange all 'wheezy' with 'jessie'? is it that simple? because it's not really clearly written in the link.
16:05<SynrGy>generally the debian installation guide has release notes
16:05<centrx>Flint, Then you run apt-get update && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
16:05<SynrGy>and those release notes tell you anything else you need to know
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16:06<SynrGy>dpkg: wheezy->jessie
16:06<dpkg>Remember that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support to be cautious; ask me about <jessie security>. (1) READ THE RELEASE NOTES: http://deb.li/ldcj (2) From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like wheezy-updates and backports, and change wheezy to jessie. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade.
16:06<SynrGy>(and the previous factoid pointed at this one)
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16:11<Flint>I also have these #deb cdrom:... lines. Are these of any use or can I just delete them?
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16:13<SynrG>Flint: they are of no use
16:13<SynrG>they have limited use in the time between doing an initial install and first bringing it online
16:13<SynrG>after that, they're not really useful.
16:14<SynrG>the networked apt repositories are more up-to-date, rendering the CD images obsolete
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16:14<Flint>oh okqay :) thanks
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16:26<william1>using the nzb application. I cannot find where it downloads to. It completes and doesn't tell me where it is.
16:28<william1>I have the save path set, which is blank by default, as well.
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18:05<lollix01>Howdy!
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18:05<lollix01>I stopped to use GNU/Linux 8and generally PCs) for some months for hospital problems
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18:08<centrx>What does it mean
18:08<lollix01>Now I've a question: How I can compile Python3 (the last release) by the tarball? (I instaled it by the source code on my old Debian and Slackware systems)
18:09<centrx>Download the tarball and build it
18:09<centrx>Install build tools and dev/header libraries
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18:10<lollix01>I don't remember nothing (I said NOTHING)
18:10<lollix01>"dev-tools" is the name?
18:10<babilen>Why do you want to compile Python?
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18:12<lollix01>Because, Because... why I want it? Because my old programs were wrote in that version, and that's the Python3 documented Programming Language
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18:13<babilen>judd: v python3
18:13<judd>Package: python3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.4.2-2; sid: 3.4.2-2; experimental: 3.4.3-1
18:13<babilen>lollix01: Just "apt-get install python3" and you are done
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18:14<lollix01>Ok, ok
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18:19<frlttrwrd>is shutdown -P/-H/-r equivalent to the poweroff, halt and reboot commands? are the command line tools equivalent to clicking shutdown/reboot buttons in desktop environments? what is the correct way to shut down / reboot a system that is running a desktop environment (KDE in my case) and desktop programs from command line?
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18:20<themill>frlttrwrd: if you're logged into KDE and you care about the graphical applications you are running and your current desktop configuration, you should ask KDE to do the log out and shutdown.
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18:21<lollix01>I have another question, how I can "manipulate" the output on the bash shell? I mean, when I insert (for example ) "cat file.txt" how i can receive as output ONLY a string of the file?
18:23<centrx>lollix01, what do you want to do with this string
18:25<lollix01>I want to have just a string as output
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18:26<centrx>lollix01, isn't that what "cat file.txt" itself does?
18:26<lollix01>No
18:27<centrx>What does it output?
18:29<lollix01>For example; I've the "file.txt" file, in that file there are a lot of strings, (for example) qwerty, qwwerty qwertyty, qwerty uioppoiu, test; How I can obtain as output only "test"?
18:30<lollix01>I remember that a way exists
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18:30<centrx>If you want to output the last line of a file, you can use: cat file.txt |tail -1
18:31<lollix01>Thanks, but if I want to obtain as output ANYTHING type of string?
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18:32<centrx>lollix01, right, but you want to select something specific within the file. There are several techniques of selecting information out of files
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18:33<lollix01>I want something like search
18:33<centrx>lollix01, try grep
18:33<centrx>lollix01, grep test file.txt
18:33<jeremydavis>Hey... does anyone know where I might info about whether or not Wheezy might go LTS?
18:34<centrx>jeremydavis, I think this is still the status: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/FAQ#Will_there_be_wheezy-lts.3F
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18:35<lollix01>Exactly centrx
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18:36<jeremydavis>centrix thanks! I had read that already but thought that there may have been some update/comment regarding success (or not) of Sqeeze-LTS
18:36<lollix01>Thanks for all, it works! Unfortunately I dont't talk english very well, but I want to learn!
18:37<centrx>jeremydavis, Yeah it would be a while anyway
18:37<centrx>jeremydavis, Even after the jessie release, there will probably be another wheezy point release, so continued support
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18:38<jeremydavis>centrix; yeah as a Debian derivative distro just trying to work out whether to do a final wheezy maintenance release or go striaght to jessie
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18:39<jeremydavis>it's a lot of work to do maintenence release and if wheezy were to get LTS that would add weight...
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18:41<centrx>Might depend on your user base. Jessie has newer software that desktop users prefer. Servers/companies move slower.
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19:02<awal>How to make chromium delete the whole browsing history when exiting it (viseted sites, cache...). In preferences there is only option for delete cookies when exiting the application. For delete the whole history one have to do it manually. I would like delete all history when I exit chromium as iceweasel do. Any suggestion?
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19:08<jpleau>awal: quick solution: incognito mode (ctrl-shift-n in chrom{e,ium} , think it's -p in firefox/iceweasel)
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19:10<awal>jpleau: yeah, I know that , but thanks :)
19:12<awal>another inconvenient (upstream wont change it it seems) is choose default search engine. defaulted to google and one can't change that in recent versions :(
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20:57<user__>hi
20:57<user__>anyone here
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20:58<centrx>* anyone :No such nick/channel
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21:15<Guest451>hi
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21:41<Chanku>I need some help with compiling something...
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21:43<centrx>!ask
21:43<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
21:44<Chanku>hm?
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22:19<heisenberg>kh
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23:10<usnaeni>newbir
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23:11<Noturno99>does someone know how to configure nexus 5 on debian wheezy? I already have tried putting idvendor and idproduct on 51-android.rules inside udev but it still does not work...
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23:49<usnaeni>opo iki
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