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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-03-31

---Logopened Tue Mar 31 00:00:14 2015
00:00<MTecknology>I was looking at this (https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T440p/jessie#Graphics) and it gave me three packages to install. Once I install them, vainfo works
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00:05<MTecknology>glxgears seems perfectly fine and great
00:05<MTecknology>glxinfo semes to indicate the same thing
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00:10<centrx>but?
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00:18<MTecknology>centrx: but the java thing still crashes and everything indicates drivers. :(
00:19<roberth1990>MTecknology: try backporting xserver-xorg-video-intel from experimental
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00:21<MTecknology>I try to avoid experimental... that can get scary in a hurry
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00:22<MTecknology>I did get a different error, though! http://dpaste.com/22VHAP5
00:22<roberth1990>old drivers and games are even more scarier if you ask me
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00:23<MTecknology>I'm running jessie. Thing's aren't that old in jessie land
00:23<roberth1990>the intel driver is superold even in unstable
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00:24<roberth1990>only the kernel part is fairly up to date
00:24<roberth1990>the current driver version is 2 years old if you dont include bugfix releases
00:25<roberth1990>the newest intel driver which is beta or whatever is only in experimental, I have used it for years on arch linux without any major problems
00:31<twb>maybe minecraft just sucks
00:31<MTecknology>aside from being a fun game, ya, it does
00:32<roberth1990>yeah that might be the case, I saw someone on reddit who got better performance with crysis 2 on full graphics than minecraft
00:32<roberth1990>MTecknology: does other games that use opengl work?
00:32<twb>MTecknology: maybe that jvm is missing an runtime dependency on a GL library, or maybe the JVM is prevented from direct access to the video card? (Guessing)
00:33<MTecknology>roberth1990: If I install xserver-xorg-video-intel from experimental, then there's a whole lot of other stuff that needs to be updated including libc6 :(
00:33<MTecknology>twb: very possible...
00:33<roberth1990>MTecknology: no it doesnt if you run testing
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00:33<roberth1990>MTecknology: I just did that yesterday, just had to install a lot of stuff that was required to build it
00:34<MTecknology>I'll try
00:34<MTecknology>oh.. build it
00:34<MTecknology>https://packages.debian.org/experimental/xserver-xorg-video-intel
00:35<roberth1990>MTecknology: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
00:35<roberth1990>I followed that
00:35<roberth1990>wasnt hard
00:35<MTecknology>heh... neat, you're right. I was able to install that package with absolutely no issues. Nothing at all
00:36<MTecknology>I guess that means it's reboot time
00:36<roberth1990>yeah you can install it too, I just built it to be sure :P
00:36<roberth1990>you just need to restart X
00:37<MTecknology>restarting X and computer take about the same amount of time
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00:37<MTecknology>I ran into the exact same boom trying to launch it
00:37<roberth1990>but it is uneccesary, but whatever
00:38<roberth1990>MTecknology: try to backport mesa from unstable then...
00:38<MTecknology>It's actually easier to restart the comuter (a key combo) than to restart X and the effort of restarting X outweighs a simple reboot. :P
00:38<MTecknology>I love fast boot times
00:39<roberth1990>TBH I think the problem lies in mesa if it isnt minecraft
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00:40<MTecknology>It's very likely a minecraft issue, but I have no way to verify
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00:40<roberth1990>MTecknology: as I asked before but didnt get an answer, does other games that use opengl work?
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00:41<MTecknology>I don't know of other games to test with
00:41<roberth1990>well lets find one then...
00:42<roberth1990>MTecknology: try openarena it is free and is in the repos
00:44<MTecknology>thanks! .. downloading
00:46<MTecknology>I should either be long past asleep or enjoying a sleepless night of minecraft.... :(
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00:47<MTecknology>still downloading
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00:53<MTecknology>roberth1990: aside from being nearly impossible to play with a very sensitive touchpad, it was quite the sexy adventure
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00:53<roberth1990>MTecknology: okay looks like mincraft is the problem
00:53<roberth1990>MTecknology: you use the latest version?
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00:54<MTecknology>yup, but I guess I haven't updated the launcher itself in a long time
00:54<MTecknology>I'll blow away the entire directory and launcher and start over
00:55<roberth1990>meh, you should have updated it before even asking for help...
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00:56<MTecknology>the launcher downloads the latest version of the game and I assumed that since the launcher launched it was fine...
00:57<roberth1990>oh hm
00:57<MTecknology>blowing it away is fine for me
00:57<roberth1990>well just update everything related to the game just to be sure
00:58<MTecknology>it went crashy again with the exact same error
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00:58<roberth1990>hm
00:59<roberth1990>well either there is a mesa bug that is specific to the game or minecraft sucks
00:59<MTecknology>I WANNA WASTE TIME DAMMIT! ...
00:59<MTecknology>minecraft is indeed very poorly written from what I can tell. Doesn't mean I don't want to waste time with it.
01:00<MTecknology>This must just be god's way of telling me to get the eff to sleep, no?
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01:00<roberth1990>not only poorly written but java is a horrible language to write a game in anyway
01:01<MTecknology>"java is a horrible language" ... :)
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01:04<roberth1990>sure yeah
01:06<MTecknology>thanks for your effort trying to help me :)
01:06<MTecknology>I'm gonna give up and call it nappy time
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01:20<twb>MTecknology: try crawl if you wanna waste time
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03:57<AndrewMock>How do I find what disk my drivers are on?
03:58<AndrewMock>I need 'alx' to access my NIC
03:59<AndrewMock>I am using debian-7.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and have a QCA8171
04:00<jm_>do you have PCI ID for it?
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04:02<AndrewMock>1969:10a1
04:02<jm_>judd pciid 1969:10a1
04:02<judd>[1969:10a1] is 'QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1969:10a1
04:03<AndrewMock>0.0 SO COOL
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04:03*AndrewMock hugs judd
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04:03<AndrewMock>https://wiki.debian.org/alx
04:03<AndrewMock>pehaps a bug?
04:05<AndrewMock>I'm reporting this to kmuto.jp
04:05<jm_>that's interesting, so have you tried the bpo kernel?
04:06<jm_>I can confirm alx module being present in the bpo kernel
04:07<jm_>sid and jessie should have the same kernel so maybe judd's modinfo db is out of date
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04:07<AndrewMock>hmm so i will have to create an installation ISO using the build tools? I don't have wifi or ethernet with this atm lol
04:09<jm_>why not install using that, then install kernel package from the usb?
04:09<jm_>or if it's installed already, obviously skip the first step
04:09<AndrewMock>confused.
04:09<AndrewMock>Don't I need network connectivity to install?
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04:10<jm_>not for installing the base
04:10<AndrewMock>Okay.
04:10<AndrewMock>how do i bypass the network-needed components
04:11<jm_>it happens automatically when networking can't be configured
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04:11<AndrewMock>kthx
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05:10<digitaldefector>anyone awake?
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05:13<SynrGy>!ask
05:13<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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05:13<digitaldefector>what packages are available on kbsd?
05:14<SynrGy>ah. damned if i know, but ...
05:14<SynrGy>!kbsd
05:14<dpkg>Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set. kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 parallel with stable since Debian 7 "Wheezy". Ask me about <install guide>. http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_FAQ #debian-kbsd on irc.oftc.net.
05:14<SynrGy>they might
05:14<SynrGy>(read the urls first? maybe some hints in there)
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05:16<digitaldefector>that's why I'm here because I've been to most of the URL's I've found on google. I'm not sure what the "regular Debian package set " is?
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05:18<benallard>digitaldefector: IMO, those are most of the packages except the ones who don't work.
05:18<benallard>You can check per package the availability on packages.debian.org
05:19<petn-randall>digitaldefector: > 99% of the packages in Debian Linux run on Debian kFreeBSD. It's only those that are kernel-specific (kernel-images, systemd, etc.) that won't run on kFreeBSD.
05:20<petn-randall>digitaldefector: It's probably easier to list the few that /don't/ work than to list the 36.000 packages that /do/ work.
05:20<SynrGy>:)
05:21<SynrGy>digitaldefector: what's the purpose of your inquiry? preparing for an install?
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05:26<digitaldefector>SynrGy, yes
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05:27<digitaldefector>but I'm not sure if I should just use FreeBSD with their packages or Kbsd with it's.
05:28<digitaldefector>I'm comfortable with dpkg, but doesn't that mean that I won't have the stability, and bleeding edge support of ports?
05:28<SynrGy>i see. well, #debian-kbsd might be able to give you better guidance.
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05:29<SynrGy>in general, debian stable is stable. as for "bleeding edge support", you need to rely on backports.
05:29<SynrGy>or else backport things yourself
05:29<SynrGy>for a production deployment? "bleeding edge" seems a contradictory goal.
05:30<SynrGy>stable and bleeding edge are opposites.
05:31<SynrGy>in debian parlance, "stable" means not changing.
05:31<digitaldefector>i could be wrong, but freebsd lets you run a stable system with newer software like clementine. Like ppa's on ubuntu, yet you can upgrade the system without breaking the ppas.
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05:32<digitaldefector>maybe I should try out kbsd before I start analyzing why I shouldn't
05:33<SynrGy>i can't speak for freebsd ...
05:33<SynrGy>yes.
05:33<SynrGy>just try it and see :)
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05:56<roberth1990>hello what is the package which contains the debian themes etc for kde?
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06:07<jm_>roberth1990: maybe try asking in #debian-kde too
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06:12<roberth1990>jm_: allready did
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06:14<devil>roberth1990: apt-cache search kde | grep themes
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06:20<roberth1990>none of those that comes have the plasma workspace theme that comes with kde when I choosing kde during install
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06:22<jm_>that should install task-kde-desktop
06:22<jm_>and with it plasma-desktopthemes-artwork apparently
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06:24<roberth1990>allready tried it, doesnt have it
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06:50<miker>ELO
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06:51<YOLACZ>elo
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06:52<YOLACZ>elo panek
06:52<miker>ELO
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06:52<Panek>hej
06:53<Panek>hejasd
06:53<Panek>df
06:53<Panek>d
06:53<Panek>g
06:53<Panek>df
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06:54<Panek>Hi
06:55<Rybson>elo
06:55<Rybson>pi
06:55<Rybson>sd
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06:56<Panek>xd
06:56<miker>YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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07:03<Emperor>afternoon
07:03<Emperor>any backports people about?
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07:06<SynrGy>what's a "backports person"?
07:06<musca>Emperor: backports has become an official repo of debian.org
07:06<SynrGy>off the top of my head there are "users of backports", "maintainers who have done backports", "people who manage the archive" ...
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07:06<SynrGy>Emperor: just ask your actual question?
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07:08<Emperor>I wouldl like to make an upload to wheezy-backports to fix the issue in DSA-3207. To do this, my debian ID needs adding to an ACL, and I need a BSA number.
07:08<Emperor>I requested the former yesterday morning (and my sponsee the latter), and I'm wondering how long it's likely to take...
07:09<SynrGy>as long as it takes? we're all volunteers ... sometimes it can be very quick. sometimes not so quick. and i'm bad at predicting such things :p
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07:10<Emperor>SynrGy: hah, yes, I know. But it was suggested to me that asking on IRC might be a useful way to expedite getting this security fix into wheezy-backports :)
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07:11<SynrGy>ok. probably not on this channel though
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07:12<Emperor>SynrGy: I'm not aware of a backports-specific channel...?
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07:13<SynrGy>really? https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/
07:13<SynrGy>seems to be alive and populated :)
07:14<SynrGy>(and obviously-named ;)
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07:26<Emperor>hm, teach me to look on the backports pages
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07:39<nardev>is there any simple way to save "current network configuration" except my manually editing /etc/network/interfaces ?
07:40<nardev>something like in cisco "save running conf"
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07:48<planetmaker>nardev, do you use something like etckeeper? That would track any changes to configurations, thus also give you the power to restore any previous state
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07:48<nardev>planetmaker, hm.. oki
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08:14<tiagosab>Hi! I want to use udisksctl, from udisks2, to mount my usb sticks, but it keeps asking for my password.
08:14<tiagosab>pmount and udisk mount it without problem,
08:15<tiagosab>but udisksctl asks for auth sying it is another seat
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08:18<tiagosab>Sorry, only pmount mounts it, udisks also fails
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10:21<awal>Any pack with similar 'testdisk' features ?
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10:23<awal>almost for recover damaged files such as audio/video and word documents
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10:26<alexd>good morning linux world
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10:27<alexd>I used chkrootkit and found an infected file /usr/lib/init but I don't know how to eliminate the infection. Is this a file i need or can I delete it?
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10:29<awal>alexd: paste.debian.net
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10:32<alexd>awal code to large for paste.derbian.net
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10:34<awal>!paste
10:34<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
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10:35<alexd>thanks dpkg
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10:38<alexd>had to use wikisend... here is URL http://wikisend.com/download/365522/init
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10:49<awal>alexd: checked my /usr/lib and I have no dir/file called 'init'
10:50<awal>alexd: can you cat that file and paste.debian.net
10:50<awal>debian not derbian :)
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10:51<alexd>awal gedit won't let me open the file
10:52<alexd>do I need to use terminal?
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10:56<awal>alexd: as normal user in terminal do " cat /usr/lib/init " then copy and paste.debian.net (select hidden if you want)
10:57<awal>if it's a file as you said.
10:57<alexd>ok, awal
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11:00<alexd>it says, No such file or directory
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11:00<alexd>sounds like I can just delete it, then
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11:02<alexd>thanks awal for your help
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12:03<judd>Package: scalpel on i386 -- sid: 1.60-1; wheezy: 1.60-1; squeeze: 1.60-1; jessie: 1.60-1; experimental: 1.60-2
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12:36<petn-randall>Can someone remind what the other tool was called to list which process have a file open, besides lsof? I think it was called with -i.
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14:04<dt>Hello? Can I get some help in this channel?
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14:05<lostatwork>if it is related to debian, yes
14:05<dt>It is
14:06<lostatwork>!ask
14:06<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:08<dt>I have a Dell Inspiron 7520 which has a Radeon HD 7700M GPU. I am running Debian Wheezy (using testing repositories). I have just installed fgrlx package for my card drivers and tried to reboot, but after seeing systemd init I see nothign but a black screen. Right now I am using a Debian Wheezy live image.
14:09<towo`>how you have installed fglrx?
14:09<dt>Yes
14:09<towo`>how? again
14:10<dt>Sorry, misread. Using Synaptic.
14:10<towo`>and it seems, this notebook has hybrid graphics
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14:10<dt>It has
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14:10<towo`>then you can't install fglrx in this way
14:10<dt>Alright
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14:11<dt>What should I do to correct my mistake?
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14:11<towo`>you should use a search-engine of your choice about debian and hybrid graphics
14:11<pangolinrollin>distrowatch
14:12<pangolinrollin>:P
14:12<pangolinrollin>jk
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14:12<dt>Okay, but how do I get back to conditions before installing? Just removing fglrx in recovery mode?
14:13<towo`>dt, for example, or chroot to your install and do it there
14:14<towo`>dt, btw, can you disable the intel igp in bios/efi?
14:14<dt>I'll try
14:14<dt>See you after reboot
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14:30<dt>Thank you for your advice, but it did not help.
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14:31<dt>I booted into my Debian Wheezy using recovery mode, removed fglrx package, then rebooted normally, but I still see only a black screen. And no, I can't switch my GPUs in BIOS.
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14:36<jathan>Hello to all in debian channel. Does someone know how can I redirect one domain to another domain with ssl certificate using Apache 2.4 in Ubuntu 14.04 please?
14:37<jathan>I am tring with virtual host conf and .htaccess
14:37<petn-randall>jathan: Ask in #ubuntu. This channel is for Debian support only.
14:37<jathan>trying sorry
14:37<petn-randall>!ubuntu
14:37<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
14:37<jathan>Ah ok. Thanks petn-randall.
14:38<petn-randall>jathan: Try that one. ^^^^
14:38<jathan>Thanks I will ask there.
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14:43<dt>I still have my problem with my Dell Inspiron 7520 laptop which is black screen after boot messages
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14:50<awal>dt: you purged fglrx or just removed it?
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14:50<dt>just removed
14:50<dt>Should have purged, right?
14:51<awal>maybe
14:51<MTecknology>Is it possible to get the "mysql2" ruby gem without having to install rubygems? I know with python, some things you can install through it are in the repos. I'd prefer do that
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14:51<awal>dt: purge it and see
14:51<dt>okay
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14:53<awal>run apt-get -f install && apt-get autoremove too (but check closely the outputs) before heating Y
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14:55<pangolinrollin>!tails
14:55<dpkg>Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net.
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15:02<dt>purging didn't do anything
15:02<mtn>dt: do you have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11?
15:03<dt>Yes
15:03<mtn>dt: remove
15:03<dt>I am reading it right now
15:03<dt>Okay
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15:07<dt>Thank you very much, now it worked.
15:07<mtn>dt: welcome
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15:07<dt>Take care of yourselves, guys.
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15:35<clmclm>Hello! I use Debian with GNOME and today all my font colors changed. Black is white and white is black -> http://imgur.com/rM55pHc (This is after a fresh install of gnome*) Any ideas how to fix this?
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16:13<awal>https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html
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16:13<gutyex>Am I correct in my interpretation of https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Bridging_with_a_wireless_NIC that I cannot create a wireless brige that will automatically allow any wired client behind it acess to the main network via DHCP without making chnages on the bridging device? Or is there a way to make ebtables automatically detect new client MACs and add rules for them that I have missed?
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16:24<fiberterminal>if I have a static ip and fqdn, should I put them in /etc/hosts?
16:24<fiberterminal>and does the same rule apply if I also have ipv6?
16:25<fiberterminal>general consensus seems to be "maybe"
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16:33<valdyn>fiberterminal: why "should" ?
16:33<valdyn>fiberterminal: do *you* need it there?
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16:34<fiberterminal>I mean, having it vs not having it, am I gaining or missing anything?
16:34<fiberterminal>I kinda assumed I did, I'm starting to realize I probably don't
16:34<valdyn>fiberterminal: some programs are easier to get working when its there
16:34<fiberterminal>this is a generic lamp box
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16:34<valdyn>fiberterminal: thats typically stuff that does authentication: kerberos, samba4 etc.
16:34<fiberterminal>about as vanilla as it gets
16:35<valdyn>fiberterminal: so you dont need it.
16:35<fiberterminal>roger, much appreciated
16:35<valdyn>fiberterminal: except: apache error messages depend on a host name, depending on how you set it up
16:35<fiberterminal>saves me a few config lines as I spool up more VMs
16:35<valdyn>fiberterminal: see what you get when you load a page that does not exist.
16:35<valdyn>fiberterminal: "no permission on localhost blah" is not a nice error for remote users....
16:36<fiberterminal>I mean to be fair, I kinda lied, we run debian/nginx/mariadb/php5-fpm
16:36<valdyn>The requested URL /teswt was not found on this server. \ Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) Server at localhost Port 443 <-- thast ugly
16:37<fiberterminal>I've got two dedicated IPs on this box, both on the same "physical" interface, it's a VPS... and two FQDNs
16:37<fiberterminal>plus an entire /64 of IPV6 IP's
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16:38<fiberterminal>does anything consult /etc/hostname in this wonderful process?
16:39<fiberterminal>ideally, I would like this server to appear to the unsuspecting vistor as two separate servers
16:39<valdyn>fiberterminal: /etc/hosts, yes, apache does by default
16:39<fiberterminal>hmm, I will have to test nginx's behavior
16:40<valdyn>fiberterminal: im sure this can be override in apache itself, maybe you are doing that already, just produce some error anyway
16:40<valdyn>fiberterminal: or nginx, whatever
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16:52<canaima>isa
16:53<scientes>I'm installing on a iMac G5 and I think the HFS+ resize is stuck
16:53<scientes>what do i do?
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16:54<pangolinrollin>why are you asking in #debian scientes
16:54<pangolinrollin>lol you shrinking to duelboot?!
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16:56<scientes>well OSX on ppc isn
16:56<scientes>isn't very well supported
16:56<scientes>Apple like to abandon their users
16:57<scientes>are there any current mp3 buffer expoits? I just got a suspicious email
16:58<scientes>pangolinrollin, whats wrong with that?
16:59<pangolinrollin>nothing glad to see you ditching osx for debian
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16:59<pangolinrollin>sorry thought you were doing osx stuff hah
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16:59<pangolinrollin>as far as being stuck i dunno :( thats a no good situation
16:59<scientes>this is ppc64
17:00<scientes>never used a big endian machine with linux before
17:00<jhutchins>scientes: Are you working in the mac disk manager?
17:00<scientes>no, the debian installer
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17:00<scientes>http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_node/resize.html
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17:21<scientes>it still booted, but it didn't resize
17:21<scientes>hmmm
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17:21<scientes>looks like ubuntu 14.04 has a live usb for powerpc i will try that
17:21<scientes>(even though i prefer systemd...)
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17:25<scientes>probably just use it for resizing, ubuntu doesn't care about wacky arches like debian does :)
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17:56<lu32>hello
17:56<lu32>i need help to configure evolution
17:56<lu32>my address gmail.com does not work
17:57<lu32>evolution say my passsord is not good
17:58<lu32>but it is ok online
17:58<lu32>I try to configure imap
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18:01<AberHatschi>lu32, you have install evolution-imap ?
18:01<AberHatschi>sorry evolution-mapi
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18:03<lu32>i don t know
18:03<lu32>it is new install
18:03<lu32>i looking for and i come back
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18:06<AberHatschi>lu32, take a look to gmail online maybe google have blocked the touch from evolution
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18:06<lu32>no evolution-mapi is not installed
18:07<lu32>do i install it
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18:07<lu32>my install is new
18:07<AberHatschi>i have gmail over evolution and i have evolution-mapi installed
18:07<AberHatschi>it works
18:08<lu32>ok i try thanks
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18:10<lu32>no it is the same
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18:11<AberHatschi>look to google online
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18:11<AberHatschi>maybe google blocked you access from evolution
18:11<lu32>how can i see that
18:12<AberHatschi>you have a mail from google that the access was blocked
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18:14<lu32>it is right I have mail from google
18:15<AberHatschi>ok
18:16<lu32>So now i can read what google do that
18:16<lu32>it seems to the security !!!
18:16<AberHatschi>yes
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18:17<lu32>i don t know why exactly
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18:18<AberHatschi>i think its the first touch from you with evolution
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18:18<lu32>AberHatschi: yes
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18:19<AberHatschi>and google means oh that is not you
18:19<lu32>yes
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18:19<lu32>thanks you
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18:20<lu32>now i know where is the problem
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18:21<AberHatschi>but after you logged in over your browser and than you conect with evolution it must be run
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18:22<AberHatschi>and you dont need this in the next time
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18:24<bluenemo>how can I get the partition table type (msdos, gpt) in one line of bash script? i need to grep the output of sth, like the last line of this: http://paste.debian.net/164196/ only that I cant get this to work without human interaction with parted
18:25<bluenemo>parted -s M)
18:26<lu32>ok thanks and the package that i have installed is it good or not ... evolution-mapi
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18:27<AberHatschi>it is not a problem
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18:27<lu32>ok thanks i try tomorrow
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18:39<vrishab>Repeating question from #debian-apt
18:40<vrishab>Hi .. I have a small issue with apt pinning ..
18:40<vrishab>Please refer http://paste.debian.net/164197/
18:41<vrishab>I'm running Wheezy and I have the first 3 DVD iso images of debian wheezy .. and I want apt to install packages from local ISO images ... before hitting the internet repos for packages .( I have limited internet bandwidth )
18:41<vrishab>So, I've pinned down my iso images with Pin-Priority: 900 while others have the default 500
18:41<vrishab>But still "apt-get install" goes to the internet repository ... any clues ?
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18:59<somiaj>vrishab: have you looked at teh output of 'apt-cache policy' and 'apt-cache policy package_name', this will just agree with what you are saying what it chooses for default.
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19:01<nevyn>´/win 28
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19:04<vrishab>somiaj, please refer the paste link .
19:04<vrishab>http://paste.debian.net/164197/
19:07<somiaj>vrishab: yea I'm unsure what the issue is. Not sure how apt determines which repo to get a package from when multiple repos have the same version.
19:07<vrishab>apt-cache policy xchat says that local dvd is high priority .. but picks from internet
19:07<somiaj>I think priority is mostly used for different versions, since they are the same version, maybe the pinning isn't used. But my knowledge on these details is limited. So far not finding any relvent hits in google.
19:09<vrishab>ok ..
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19:12<somiaj>vrishab: try pinning the internet repo with a negative number (such as -1 or -10)
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19:15<somiaj>yea everythign I'm finding talks about pinning in determing which version to install by default. It doesn't say much about which repo to use if multipel repos have the same version.
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19:22<vrishab>somiaj, -ve value will not be a correct solution .. I want the internet repo to be active also .. Since I only have the first 3 DVD iso images, the rest has to come from internet repo . ( This is something of a heirarchical cache structrure ) .
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19:23<vrishab>Currenty I'm commenting the internet repo from sources.list and getting packages installed locally .. Following which I do a apt-get upgrade enabling the internet repo . This keeps internet traffic to minumum ..
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19:24<vrishab>This has worked for small deps .. ( and I guess Debian has packaged dependent packages within the same iso as much as possible ) .. so .. that's how it goes now ..
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20:19<oem>COMO FUNCIONA ??
20:21<oem>OI
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20:22<oem>WWW.DETETIVEIVES.COM.BR
20:22<oem>OI
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20:24<oem>WWW.DETETIVEIVES.COM.BR
20:24<retrospectacus>oem: wrong channel
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20:40<eduardo_>Buenas, pessoal!
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22:32<procmand>I'm trying to start a bash script with an empty environment, but it keeps getting prepopulated even if I use bash --noprofile --norc
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22:34<ir0n>edit whit notepad !
22:35<dvs>!lart ir0n
22:35*dpkg whacks ir0n with the cluebat
22:36<ir0n>sorry
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23:00<mnuhmnuh>hi please somebody sort out jessie, wheezy, squeeze. what's jessie? sid? tx
23:01<musca>oldstable -> squeeze
23:01<musca>stable -> wheezy
23:01<musca>testing -> jessie
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23:01<musca>unstable -> sid
23:02<musca>experimental -> rc-buggy
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23:03<musca>the last two links never change
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23:07<mnuhmnuh>musca: testing == jessie! ty! that's what I thought. phew. I've been boucing around a bit between debian and its downstreams, and they confuse the issue. tx.
23:08<musca>mnuhmnuh: the release cycle has made good progress, jessie seems to be on its way aproaching the release soon.
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23:13<mnuhmnuh>musca: glad to hear it. It proves yet again, I'm a genius. :-) It's a long story.
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23:27<neldogz>does Debian support installation onto software raid? I understand that with Ubuntu you must use the server version to achieve this.
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23:32<thtguy265>hi
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23:39<neldogz>does Debian support installation onto software raid? I understand that with Ubuntu you must use the server version to achieve this.
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23:52<dondelelcaro>neldogz: onto linux software raid, yes.
23:52<dondelelcaro>neldogz: onto proprietary softraid, maybe.
23:53<dondelelcaro>in the latter case, frankly, you should really just use linux software raid unless you must multi-boot
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