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00:06<neldogz>dondelelcaro, thank you!
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01:05<smokeysea>why is enlightenment not in core repo?
01:08<jm_>it is in jessie
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01:10<smokeysea>jm_: thanks; I am on 7.0
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01:11<smokeysea>I hope I can just build one with http://www.debe17.com/cvs_page/easy_e17.sh_script_page.html
01:12<jm_>note that if you do that you'll have to ask elsewhere for help
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01:52<user1000>is it better to use wheezy-backports for internet facing applications
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01:52<user1000>and why do i get ap-get issues but when i specifiy wheezy-backports all dependences and programs install fine
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02:33<rjsalts>user1000: better than what?
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02:34<rjsalts>user1000: and you mean apt-get -t wheezy-backports install foo vs. apt-get install foo?
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02:34<user1000>rjsalts: yes
02:34<user1000>rjsalts: better than the lower version in wheezy
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02:36<rjsalts>user1000: depends, if there is a feature in the backport that you need then that's what backports is there for
02:37<rjsalts>user1000: although I am not sure that the people doing backports are necessarily as on top of security as security maintainers for stable
02:38<rjsalts>user1000: that being said, there are probably security issues that go unnoticed in stable too
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02:39<user1000>ooh ok
02:39<user1000>rjsalts: i figured the higher version # is more secure, but wheezy makes sure the older versions stay adrresseed security wise?
02:40<rjsalts>user1000: yeah, they do security patches for the life of stable + 1 year and 1 day
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02:41<rjsalts>user1000: i.e. when jessie is released and wheezy becomes oldstable the security guys will still look after it for a year and a day so you can plan and manage your upgrades to jessie over that time
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02:41<rjsalts>and in fact there is a group looking after squeeze (who're calling their effort squeeze LTS)
02:43<user1000>is there a reason my "apt-get update foo" dosen't work but "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install foo" dosen't work?
02:44<user1000>*"apt-get -t wheezy-backports install foo" DOES work
02:44<rjsalts>user1000: and as to why -t wheezy-backports works but apt-get install foo=..., it's because it won't select packages from wheezy-backports to install for dependencies because they don't have enough priority
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02:45<rjsalts>user1000: https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences explains a little
02:45<user1000>rjsalts: is there a way to fix that?
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02:46<rjsalts>user1000: it's by design, you should use apt-get -t wheezy-backports when you're wanting to install a package from backports
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02:47<rjsalts>user1000: but apt-get dist-upgrade should keep installing the latest version from backports if you're already installing a package from backports
02:48<user1000>would dist-upgrade push me to testing?
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02:49<rjsalts>user1000: no, dist-upgrade just says upgrade everything, install new packages if you have to, uninstall packages if there is a conflict
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02:50<rjsalts>user1000: it's newer name is full-upgrade
02:51<KingOfDos>oh? that's a decent change :)
02:52<user1000>rjsalts: oh so it will fix the issue maybe?
02:52<rjsalts>or maybe I'm wrong
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02:52<rjsalts>full-upgrade is what aptitude calls dist-upgrade
02:52<KingOfDos>can now someone fix my console color issue? why the hack are ppl breaking stuff like that :P
02:53<rjsalts>user1000: sorry, not sure what you mean
02:53<KingOfDos>instaled a fresh box, is even worse than a month ago. now everything blinks which should not blink.
02:54<user1000>so doing "apt-get dist-upgrade" will fix the conflicts apt-get reports?
02:54<KingOfDos>(long standing story of some *$%^#$^ swapping two bits, bold/blink in the kernel/whatever lowlevel)
02:54<rjsalts>user1000: if you're wanting to upgrade a package you've already installed from backports?
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02:55<user1000>i want to do that and fix the issue that happens when i try to "apt-get instal" something
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02:56<rjsalts>user1000: if you're trying to get the updates for things installed on your system, whether from wheezy-backports or just from wheezy then apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade will do what you want
02:57<rjsalts>user1000: if you've decided you need a newer version of foo and it's in backports then apt-get -t wheezy-backports install foo is the way to go
02:57<rjsalts>user1000: rather than apt-get install foo/wheezy-backports which will only work if foo has no dependencies that are only in wheezy-backports
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02:58<user1000>rjsalts: thanks dist-upgrade fixed the issue
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02:59<user1000>rjsalts: so if i do -t wheezy-backports then i have two copies of a libary sometimes
02:59<user1000>two versions
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03:02<rjsalts>user1000: no, it'll upgrade a package and all its dependencies from ones in wheezy-backports
03:02<rjsalts>user1000: e.g. mongodb in wheezy-backports is version 2.4.8, but it's version 2.0.6 in wheezy itself
03:03<rjsalts>user1000: so you'll no longer have the older version installed once doing apt-get -t wheezy-backports mongodb
03:03<rjsalts>user1000: apt-get -t wheezy-backports install mongodb even
03:03<user1000>and what about its libraires and dependicens
03:04<rjsalts>user1000: it'll drag those in because mongodb depends mongodb-server >= 2.4.1 which will only be satisfied from packages in wheezy-backports
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03:05<rjsalts>user1000: so apt-get install mongodb/wheezy-backports will fail as it can't satisfy mongodb-server >= 2.4.1 from wheezy sources
03:05<user1000>so they exist alongside the older version of that libary
03:05<user1000>ooh
03:05<rjsalts>they're in a separate repository
03:06<rjsalts>you can only have one or the other installed at one time
03:06<user1000>do i need to add a swperate security line in sources.list?
03:06<rjsalts>there should be a separate security line for wheezy
03:06<rjsalts>but there is no security support for backports
03:06<user1000>that covers backports?
03:07<rjsalts>no, it doesn't
03:07<rjsalts>the backports are often done by the person uploading packages to unstable
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03:08<user1000>so is there a team os security auditors for packages in stable?
03:08<rjsalts>so if that maintainer is on top of things and notices a security bug upstream or in his package then they would upload a package to unstable and also prepare a new package for backports
03:10<rjsalts>user1000: yes, there are people who're tasked with fixing security issues for stable
03:12<user1000>what type of testing do they do?
03:12<user1000>or do they just stay on top of patches
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03:16<rjsalts>user1000: https://www.debian.org/security/
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03:53<Fuzzlix>hi. are there any 3D graphics driver for intels internal graphic cards?
03:55<towo^work>they come with linux
03:55<towo^work>nothing special to do
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03:56<Fuzzlix>the standard driver works but 2D only. No 3D acceleration so far.
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03:56<jm_>it works for 3D too
03:56<towo^work>Fuzzlix, this does not help us
03:57<towo^work>if the related mesa and drm packages are installed, 3d works
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04:01<Fuzzlix>i try to use 3d acceleration in virtualbox. win-xp in virtualbox runs well but i cant activate 3D support. (some old games need 3d support)
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04:15<petn-randall>Fuzzlix: You need to install special drivers on the /guest/ so that 3D acceleration works. Nothing to do on the host.
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04:19<jm_>it's called guest additions
04:19<jm_>virtualbox-guest-additions-iso from bpo if host is debian
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04:19<Fuzzlix>petn-randall: i installed the guest additions. i also installed the experimental 3d additions. ....
04:20<Fuzzlix>i installed directx9 afterwards. My old night and magic 7 starts with a error: "there arent any 3d devices to create"
04:21<petn-randall>Fuzzlix: The "3D acceleration" tickbox is checked in the config of the guest?
04:21<Fuzzlix>petn-randall: yes
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04:22<petn-randall>Fuzzlix: If you can check it, everything's fine on the host side.
04:22<Fuzzlix>may be it is only this game what fails. i will check this later. thanks :)
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04:23<petn-randall>Fuzzlix: Just to be sure, what does 'glxinfo | grep rendering' output on your host machine?
04:24<Fuzzlix>petn-randall: i have no command glxinfo. may be i am missing some packages?
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04:27<towo^work>forget 3d acceleration in vbox
04:27<towo^work>especialy on a xp guest
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04:27<towo^work>vbox is not for games
04:27<Fuzzlix>ok i got it :)
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04:38<petn-randall>Fuzzlix: apt-get install mesa-utils
04:39<petn-randall>Fuzzlix: Btw, the package 'command-not-found' will directly tell you which package you need to install if you type a command that doesn't exist on your system yet.
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04:39<Fuzzlix>petn-randall: gteat tip. thank you :)
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04:46<fattaneh> hi all, how to set a static same ip address for my vm in virtualbox?
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05:34<roberth1990>hmmm spotify seem to require an older version of libgcrypt than jessie has, anyone who has a sollution for this?
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05:41<aborrero>roberth1990: i'm using the official spotify package in jessie without problems
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05:43<aborrero>roberth1990: see http://paste.debian.net/164252/
05:43<roberth1990>aborrero: sure, I got mine to run, but logging in with facebook isnt possible....
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05:45<aborrero>libgcrypt is not in package's depends, recommends or suggests :-(
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05:45<roberth1990>aborrero: the one I downloaded from spotify's own repo do, but I found a package for that version which I just installed
05:45<roberth1990>which is also a newer version than yours
05:46<TobiTobsn>How can I lookup the via racoon-dhcp assigned ip-addresses?
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05:47<jm_>TobiTobsn: is this something that debian provides?
05:47<TobiTobsn>yes
05:47<jm_>which package?
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05:48<TobiTobsn>racoon
05:48<TobiTobsn>roadwarrior vpn configuration
05:48<jm_>description for that says it's a ipsec daemon, not a dhcp daemon
05:49<TobiTobsn>yes that's true, but the ipsec daemon is able to assign adresses to the connected clients and I want to look them up
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07:38<Viztro>hi everyone
07:38<Viztro>apache2 init scripts are gone
07:39<Viztro>upgrading the package did't make init scripts get back. So what can I do ?
07:40<themill>!confmiss
07:40<dpkg>You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>.
07:40<Viztro>thanks
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09:07<suneer>HELOO
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09:27<danielsh`>How can I test the built-in microphone? I see arecord(1) but I don't know whether it uses the built-in microphone or the microphone jack (to which nothing is connected right now).
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09:43<danielsh_>[sorry, wifi dropped]
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09:45<petn-randall>danielsh`: You can run alsamixer and check which input source is configured there.
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09:49<danielsh`>petn-randall, I don't see where that is in alsamixer; currently looking into 'pactl list sources'
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09:51<ixi>danielsh` try pavucontrol
09:52<danielsh`>ixi, thanks. That lists two microphones. Is the "progress bar" thing at the bottom supposed to move when I speak into the mic?
09:53<Jobbe>debian didn't pull an april fools joke today :o
09:53<danielsh`>I haven't used the mic on this box before so I'm trying to rule out a hardware problem.
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09:58<ixi>yes danielsh`
09:58<ixi>it's supposed to visualize sound level
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09:58<ixi>if it's not working try muting/unmuting the device
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09:59<ixi>(buttons on right)
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10:00<danielsh`>ixi, I see three buttons, in this order: mute [not enabled] lock channels [enabled] set as fallback [enabled]
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10:00<danielsh`>ixi, would it be correct to conclude my built-in mic is dead?
10:00<ixi>check alsamixer too
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10:03<ibuidan>hi can someone please tell me , is it safe to install , use ALSA sound system and PULSEAUDIO together ...!?
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10:04<danielsh`>ixi, playing with the "Input source" and "Capture" settings has no effect; both "Mic" and "Internal Mic" are 100%
10:05<mtn>ibuidan: that is the normal condition with most desktops
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10:05<ixi>danielsh` can you provide a screenshot of alsamixer screen
10:05<danielsh`>ixi, sure, moment
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10:06<danielsh`>ixi, http://sprunge.us/SLDj - make sure to use fixed-width font
10:07<ixi>danielsh` you see that MM under the column
10:07<ixi>that means its muted
10:07<ixi>on left
10:07<ibuidan>i'm on ANTIX 14.4 MX , sound is working good using ALSA , but i'm looking for ways to get the most out of my sound card, intel hd audio with realtek hd codec
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10:07<mtn>!antix
10:07<dpkg>antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>.
10:07<danielsh`>ixi, ok, I typed 'm' and now it says 'OO'
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10:08<ibuidan>would PULSEAUDIO give me more control over the sound card
10:08<ixi>ibuidan define 'getting the most
10:09<danielsh`>ixi, do the values of Capture{, 1, 2} matter ?
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10:09<ibuidan>i like to record sound clips from radio using my android phone, xperia, connected to PC via LINE IN, and using gnome sound recorder
10:10<ixi>danielsh` well things should not be 0
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10:10<ixi>and it should not say "MM" under the columns, if you expect them to work
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10:10<danielsh`>ixi, I saw some random fluctuations around 3% of the progress bar in pavucontrol, but can't reproduce
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10:10<danielsh`>ixi, roger that, let me maximize Capture* too then
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10:10<mtn>ibuidan: you should ask on the correct channel
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10:11<ixi>ibuidan gnome software is normally very pulseaudio-friendly
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10:11<ixi>so you probably want to keep that
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10:11<ixi>danielsh` put at least 33% into mic boost
10:11<danielsh`>dead as a rock. I get nothing whatsoever on the progress bar now.
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10:12<danielsh`>ixi, mic boost and internal mic boost are both 100%
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10:12<danielsh`>I tried setting input source to both Mic and Internal Mic
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10:17<ibuidan>i've found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1794581 , and i'll install PULSEAUDIO , i hope it won't disable ALSA ...
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10:18<danielsh`>ibuidan, I have both pulseaudio and alsa packages installed, and I can play music just fine.
10:19<danielsh`>ibuidan, I'm not really a power user music-wise though
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10:20<ibuidan>that's better, cause i tried once to install driver for my realtek sound card using linux driver from manufacturer website , after the install of the driver the sound hasn't been funtioning at all
10:22*danielsh` just uses the OS drivers
10:27<danielsh`>ixi, okay, I borrowed a headset from someone and now I can confirm it's a hardware failure of the internal mic.
10:27<danielsh`>ixi, many thanks!
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10:27<danielsh`>petn-randall, thank you too - I hadn't realized the input source columns were in fact radios.
10:28<ixi>danielsh` I would still not be convinced
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10:29<ixi>but just because I've seen my share of wonky shit with audio on linux
10:29<danielsh`>ixi, with the external mic, I see the pavucontrol bar move if input source is "Mic" and not move if it's "Internal Mic".
10:29<danielsh`>ixi, what else might be the problem? [besides internal mic being busted]
10:30<ixi>what I would try is to boot the system into a known good livecd where audio tends to 'just work (tm)'
10:30<ixi>and see if the hardware works with that
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10:30<ixi>or even try and boot into one of those other operating systems
10:30<ixi>and use their drivers
10:31<petn-randall>ibuidan: Pulseaudio builds on ALSA, so you can't have the former without the latter. It's also not a good idea to install vendor drivers in 99.9% of the cases.
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10:31<ixi>danielsh` audio stack on linux *is* the problem.
10:31<danielsh`>ixi, any particular recommendation? I have a freebsd disc lying around, and an arch VM
10:32<danielsh`>and mint, but not sure if that's counts (as it's a debian derivative)
10:32<ixi>mint livecd
10:32<danielsh`>excellent, I'll give that a shot ixi
10:33<danielsh`>if it works, would jessie work too?
10:33<ixi>danielsh` if the sky is green, would protons still decay
10:33<danielsh`>ixi, if the sky is green, the earth would probably be inhabitable, so who cares :)
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10:33<danielsh`>I'm just trying to get a sense of "if it works in mint, what does that imply for making it work in debian".
10:34<danielsh`>sorry for not being clear
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10:34<ixi>if it works in mint, it implies that there is no hardware failulre.
10:34*danielsh` nods
10:34<ixi>if it doesn't you most probably have a hardware failulre, confirmed by 2 sources of info
10:34<danielsh`>gotcha.
10:35<danielsh`>so _if_ it works in mint, then I'll circle back and try to figure out the difference. and if it doesn't, I'll be confident of a hw issue.
10:35<danielsh`>thanks!
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11:32<ivanc>hi all
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11:33<ivanc>problem with Xephyr in testing anyone can help me plese :)
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11:39<iobound>anyone interested in a few notes from upgrading to jessie on armel? can't be bothered with reportbug
11:40<OdyX>iobound: please be bothered to reportbug installation-reports
11:40<iobound>i was hoping to just dump a few lines in an irc channel
11:41<iobound>putting stuff in the bug tracker = one million spam mails incoming on that email address within 30 minutes
11:42<OdyX>iobound: well, so you rely on others to report for you, essentially.
11:42<iobound>correct :P
11:42<ibuidan>https://img.bi/#/8BkfZ6Y!e-wfBwPKbFXgYRzUOAAI0e8wqNOMPAsxOw0QT96Y
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11:42<ibuidan>my pc sound card. i installed pulseaudio but gnome is using alsa :(
11:43<OdyX>ibuidan: did you restart gnome ?
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11:45<ibuidan>i have gnome, lxde, xfce and openbox installed still mostly i like xfce
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11:48<ibuidan>https://img.bi/#/rwagMkk!C32cOAM9ri1AWjIuSA8FvMWg5bY2jwMRKU0g9bqm
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12:04<ibuidan>http://fisierulmeu.ro/25EENGB10MDH/Bonkheads-rar.html it is not not spam xD it is just a game
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12:07<FlowRiser>What ways do we have to power-manage laptops on Debian?
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12:11<ibuidan>TRĂIASCĂ POLIȚIA FEDERALĂ ROMÂNĂ!
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12:13<FlowRiser>!help
12:13<lostatwork>FlowRiser: well Gnome, KDE and XFCE all have power management settings
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12:14<FlowRiser>lostatwork, indeed but how do I do that from the terminal in case I am using a DE that does not have this
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12:15<FlowRiser>I am using i3-wm
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12:16<ibuidan>ce înseamnă i3-wm ?
12:17<lostatwork>FlowRiser: if you are using wheezy you can install the xfce-powermanger and use the applet in i3
12:17<lostatwork>it will appear in the system tray
12:17<FlowRiser>lostatwork, thank you
12:18<FlowRiser>ibuidan, please use english here; It means i3 window manager
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13:15<RalfJ>Hey all - thanks a lot for making April 25th the Debian release date. That's my birthday. I'm getting a Debian release for my birthday :-))
13:16<RalfJ>now, I just hope it'll actually happen :D
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13:18<petn-randall>RalfJ: You're welcome. Be thankful I remembered.
13:19<RalfJ>I am ;-)
13:21<petn-randall>We actually wanted to release for the Queen's birthday, but since Debian has a habit of releasing early, we didn't want to accidentally release on Hitler's birthday. So we rescheduled it a few days later.
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13:22<SynrG>hmm
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13:22<SynrG>!jessie pool 1
13:22<dpkg>! jellÿ=2016-01-01 gsimmons=2015-08-27 peterrooney=2014-11-11 babīlen=2015-05-23 themíll=2015-06-23 abrötman=2015-07-23
13:22<petn-randall>(those being April 20 and 21 respectively)
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13:25<SynrG>so babilen wins (but it never was much of a contest :p)
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13:25<petn-randall>!jessie pool 1
13:25<dpkg>! petn-randall=2015-04-25 jellÿ=2016-01-01 gsimmons=2015-08-27 peterrooney=2014-11-11 babīlen=2015-05-23 themíll=2015-06-23 abrötman=2015-07-23
13:25<SynrG>well, there's always a chance things go horribly wrong
13:25<petn-randall>Woooooooo
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13:28<RalfJ>I hope it wont be early. or late. but just in time. ;-)
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13:40<subz>sup
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13:40<jmlongo>hey .. a little question about this ... I have a system I want to be the stable branch so now it has wheezy...
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13:41<jmlongo>but I don't know if I'll be around to make the proper changes whenever is needed
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13:41<jmlongo>so I changed all the wheezy lines in sources.list to stable
13:42<jmlongo>but I get error when updating for updates and security updates
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13:43<Human_G33k>jmlongo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
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13:43<jmlongo>as if there were no "stable/updates" just "wheezy/updates" or "jessie/updates"
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13:45<jmlongo>oh ... nevermind ... it was another error ...
13:47<tiagosab>Hi! I want to mount/unmount usb sticks with udisksctl (from udisks2)
13:47<tiagosab>but it want auth, even if pmount mounts and umounts without a glitch
13:47<tiagosab>It says it is from another seat.
13:48<tiagosab>org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-other-seat
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13:48<tiagosab>Do I need a special polkit rule for that?
13:48<tiagosab>(it's jessie, with systemd)
13:50<jmlongo>I think Jessie's support is at #debian-next
13:51<jmlongo>you may try there too
13:51<tiagosab>jmlongo: thanks
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13:51<jmlongo>no prob! :)
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14:31<smaxey843>show
14:31<smaxey843>Welp
14:31<smaxey843>Hello then.
14:31<Mitt>Hi. I have sound at all but in mate applet tells me I don't have gstreamer installed but I do. daemon also doesn't work
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14:33<Mitt>I have gstreamer0.10 base good and ugly
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14:39<Mitt>solved by installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-alsa
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15:58<TheKingHasReturned>why is it when i try to snap the window of this xchat program it goes to another desktop instead of auto-adjust itself like other program's window do?
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15:59<ixi>which software is typically used to manage a remote dedicated server via ipkvm ?
15:59<ixi>is there even such standard software or is this purely a vendor specific thing?
16:02<TheKingHasReturned>how can i add MS Windows screen-edge-window-snap function to LXDE desktop?
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16:02<TheKingHasReturned>i use this feature in XFCE but i can't get it work under LXDE
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16:14<MTecknology>I'm trying to write an init script for a process that doesn't create a pid file. This is proving to be a pain in the bum. :(
16:17<tinker>MTecknology: have you think about using pkill command ?
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16:18<tinker>MTecknology: pgrep and pkill may do what you want
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16:19<MTecknology>tinker: I'm trying to use start-stop-daemon. This thing doesn't fork and doesn't create a pid file. I was trying to use --background, but that doesn't work when there's no pid file.
16:19<MTecknology>I guess I could use pgrep to create the pid file after launching it?..
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16:21<tinker>MTecknology: yes i guess so... and check if there are any process running already!
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16:22<petn-randall>Don't want to spoil the systemd haters, but it actually makes it easier in cases like this due to the cgroups. :)
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16:25<tinker>petn-randall: you're saying like launching the service inside a container and remove it when necessary?
16:25<Maulkin>Try --name <process-name> ?
16:26<Maulkin>MTecknology: ^^
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16:30<MTecknology>Maulkin: This is most of the init script I have now - http://dpaste.com/0ETHTZC -- What ends up being launched is this: /opt/gitlab-runner/embedded/bin/ruby /opt/gitlab-runner/bin/runner -C /home/gitrunner
16:31<MTecknology>I'm starting to wonder if I should just kick this off with inittab instead
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16:49<badtrip>hello people! I'm new in Debian (just switched from ubuntu). I messed up with file /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and deleted it, and now I have very ugly fonts. What do I do? (debian 7.8 xfce. recreating the file with values from GLOBAL http://www.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html does not help)
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16:53<olinuxx-2>badtrip, didn't you make a copy before ?
16:53<tinker>badtrip: try to do aptitude reinstall fontconfig
16:53<olinuxx-2>you can reinstall the package on which the file is belonging to
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16:55<badtrip>I did reinstall, how do I restart X server in xfce version of debian?
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17:03<geekosupremo>badtrip: perhaps logout and in again. Might help it reestablish connection to X
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17:04<geekosupremo>badtrip: also a restart of the system seems a likly candidate too.
17:04<tinker>or could try xfdesktop -reload
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17:22<iobound>the arpwatch package in jessie doesn't start properly on reboot, i wonder if it started too early by systemd. anyone else having that problem?
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17:23<iobound>the apcupsd package's apcaccess binary doesn't work either, and it's already filed in nov2014 in bug 770984 with a patch to fix it .. is there a way to push that forward?
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19:14<wargin>hi all
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19:17<wargin>I got an extraction error with the libfglrx (1:14.9+ga14.201-2) package... someone can comfirm this ?
19:18<wargin>I think the data.tar.xz is bad...
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19:19<retrospectacus>wargin: http://paste.debian.net
19:19<retrospectacus>show us
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19:20<wargin>now i can't copy / paste, i'm on another computer
19:20<themill>wargin: which arch?
19:20<wargin>i can't start X without graphic driver :)
19:20<wargin>themill: amd64
19:20<themill>extracts fine here
19:22<wargin>hum... i will retry
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19:36<wargin>themill: dpkg -i say always somethink than : "the pre-install script return 128"
19:36<wargin>amd64, SID
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19:54<edoardo>Debian Users
19:54<retrospectacus>edoardo
19:54<edoardo>whats??
19:55<retrospectacus>ok!
19:55<edoardo>yes!
19:57<themill>wargin: ahh... preinstall script is not unpacking -- that's prior to unpacking
19:57<edoardo>i'm in trouble
19:58<edoardo>my gbrowsermusic can't play
19:58<wargin>themill , retrospectacus : here is the log http://phuck.ovh/wargreen/pub/fglrx-debug
19:58<edoardo>because missing plugin, can you all help me please??
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20:01<themill>wargin: hmm I can't see anywhere in the preinst script that would exit with 128: http://sources.debian.net/src/fglrx-driver/1:14.9%2Bga14.201-2/debian/libfglrx.preinst
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20:05<wargin>themill: strange thing...
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20:11<wargin>themill: have you any idea ?
20:11<themill>Are you sure this card is supported by this version of the driver?
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20:16<wargin>themill: arrrrrrrrrrrh
20:16<wargin>it's just this
20:16<wargin>-_- thanks
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