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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-04-02

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00:42<yvan_>salut
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00:45<disleksic>morning
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01:55<erick>Hi
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02:29<roberth1990>why is the changelog for the kernel in jessie hosted by ubuntu?
02:32<jm_>how is it hosted by ubuntu?
02:33<roberth1990>jm_: okay poorly formulated, it seems when looking in the changelog that the changelog has been retrieved from ubuntu
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02:34<jm_>roberth1990: the ubuntu kernel team is continuing to maintain the 3.16 kernel from what I know (it's no longer maintained upstream)
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02:35<roberth1990>jm_: I thought debian maintained their kernels
02:37<jm_>roberth1990: they do but it doesn't make sense to duplicate the efforts when the same version is used
02:37<roberth1990>jm_: yeah but the issue is that canonical isnt going to maintain for very long, the release it is a part of is not lts
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02:37<roberth1990>debian should have choosed 3.14 which is LTS upstream
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02:40<jm_>roberth1990: I don't know where you get your information from but ubuntu 14.04 is a LTS release and it has the 3.16 kernel
02:41<roberth1990>jm_: I dont know where you are getting your information but 14.04 is on 3.13
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02:42<roberth1990>oh nm
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02:42<roberth1990>stupid distrowatch
02:43<jm_>ahh now it's someone else's fault
02:43<roberth1990>I was looking at distrowatch
02:44<roberth1990>and upgrading kernel in a lts release, is odd if you ask me
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04:01<DNS>y0 i have a full encrypted system with luks with quiet many partions and after upgradin to the latest 3.16 kernel in wheezy i am not able anymore to boot system because dracut hangs after enterin passphrase
04:01<DNS>any hints, tips? <_<
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04:03<DNS>i am not 100% sure that the issue is dracut but it seems so for me
04:03<DNS>with 3.16 this package was installed
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04:29<DNS>seems i asked at wrong time :D
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05:29<TheKingHasReturned>what /msg is used for ?
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05:32<TheKingHasReturned>what is /msg used for ?
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05:33<devilz>TheKingHasReturned: to talk to the underlying services
05:33<devilz>like chanserv or nickserv
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05:34<TheKingHasReturned>ok and how to do that?
05:35<devilz>TheKingHasReturned: /msg/nickserv help
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05:36<devilz>TheKingHasReturned: you might also want to read http://www.oftc.net/
05:36<TheKingHasReturned>devilz: and who is cahnserv , nickserv ?
05:36<devilz>read my link, this is #debian, not #irc
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05:41<TheKingHasReturned>how to open /topic ?
05:43<musca>"Topic" is a line of text displayed when you enter a channel. You can use the /topic command to display it again.
05:43<devilz>TheKingHasReturned: klick to the right of it
05:43<devilz>depending on your client
05:44<jm_>maybe read some irc howto/tutorial instead of asking all that here
05:45<devilz>jm_: I linked him already
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06:17<anonymous_>hello
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06:18<anonymous_>do you speqk french
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06:45<clmclm>Hello! Can someone tell me something about these warnings (http://paste.debian.net/164447/) flooding my syslog? (Debian Jessie, gnome) Thanks
06:47<ixi>buggy window manager probably
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06:50<clmclm>ixi, okay, thank you
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09:45<wargreen>hi all
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09:57<wargreen>Someone know if install fglrx-legacy-driver is possible on debian SID ?
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09:58<wargreen>I got problem with xserver-xorg-abi-* dependancises
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09:59<towo^work>then you have the answer
10:00<towo^work>fglrx-legacy was not updated long time, so new xservers aren't supported
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10:31<Funambuli>hiii!!!! Anyone knows about acpi and its protocols for comunication with the laptop battery chipset?
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10:33<mtn>!ask
10:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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10:37<Funambuli>ok
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10:37<Funambuli>i'd like to reprogram my laptop battery chipset
10:38<Funambuli>in order of fuck its programmed obsolescence
10:38<Funambuli>the same history that we have with laser printers
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10:38<Funambuli>i'd like to use the comunication protocol that uses acpi
10:39<Funambuli>in order to try a reading and writting the chipset
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10:41<blast007>Funambuli: what are you trying to accomplish?
10:41<Funambuli>my acpi says:
10:41<Funambuli>Battery 0: Charging, 39%, 01:43:41 until charged
10:41<Funambuli>Battery 0: design capacity 5200 mAh, last full capacity 2240 mAh = 43%
10:41<Funambuli>Adapter 0: on-line
10:41<Funambuli>Thermal 0: ok, 52.0 degrees C
10:41<Funambuli>Thermal 0: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 95.0 degrees C
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10:41<wargreen>outch :)
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10:42<Funambuli>they banned me
10:42<Funambuli>sorry
10:42<Funambuli>as i was saying
10:42<Funambuli>full charge 5200
10:42<Funambuli>last charge 2240
10:43<Funambuli>if u get the battery modules out
10:43<Funambuli>and charge them
10:43<Funambuli>less than 1'% are broken
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10:43<Funambuli>and the rest charge at least at 80%
10:43<Funambuli>so
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10:44<Funambuli>i'd like to try a reading writting of the chipset through the acpi comunication protocols
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11:33<geekosupremo>Anyone used the drobo-utils lately? Are they compatible with the new Drobo 3 series?
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11:44<clmclm>Hello! On Jessie my laptop seems to shut down the ethernet adapter when on battery. Any ideas or keywords where to configure this?
11:44<clmclm>laptop-mode-tools is installed
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11:44<wargreen>re all
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11:50<wargreen>I got two ATI HD4850 with crossfire, but the fglrx-legacy isn't more instalable cause xserver-abi dependancies problem... so, i'm just f*ked, or is a solution for get crossfire working ?
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11:51<clmclm>fixed with sudo gedit /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/ethernet.conf
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11:51<wargreen>I run Debian SID with custom RT kernel
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11:56<MrFrood>wargreen: try #debian-next
11:57<wargreen>MrFrood, okay, i try, thx
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14:23<Guest866>Hello! I've installed the Bumblebee packages (with the proprietary Nvidia driver) on Debian 7.8. I don't know how to enable HDMI out in order to use my TV as a second screen. Can someone help me, please?
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15:31<vuder>what are the differences between channel modes private and secret?? thanks
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15:32<awal>Is there an app similar to 'popcorn-time' under gnu-linux?
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15:35<mgv>wasn't popcorn time nodejs-based?
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15:38<mgv>awal: there are linux downloads on their website: https://popcorntime.io/#get-app
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15:38<jizzy>vulder secret wont show up on /list
15:38<jizzy>vuder *
15:38<mgv>vuder: http://www.oftc.net/ChannelModes/
15:39<jizzy>anyone seen BaNooZ on here?
15:39<mgv>there is no private on OFTC, +p is protected
15:43<awal>mgv: yeah I know there is a download version for linux, but was looking for a native linux one. i won't have a frankendebian machine
15:43<mgv>it's foss, you can compile it yourself
15:43<mgv>you can probably even package it for Debian
15:44<awal>ok, i look at the linux version and check what is exactly
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15:56<Xylon>is there a way to list packages from non-free repo?
15:57<Xylon>by command line (it's a server)
15:57<mgv>Xylon: the vrms package does that
15:57<mgv>alternatively, dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Package}\t${Section}\n' |grep -e non-free/
15:57<Xylon>awesome :)
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15:58<Xylon>:)
15:58<Xylon>no non-free
15:58<retrospectacus>!non-free list
15:58<dpkg>To see a list of <non-free> and <contrib> packages installed on your system, run «aptitude search '~i?or(~scontrib,~snon-free)'». See also <aptitude search>.
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16:21<Xylon>is there no command line cpu-benchmark program in the debian repos? I really can't find one.
16:21<Xylon>sysbench is for testing databases
16:22<Xylon>I can download and compile unixbench
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16:22<iamgay>so i am
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16:26<Xylon>is there a Debian package that pulls in all the standard build stuff like make and gcc?
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16:30<LtL>Xylon: build-essential
16:30<musca>,info build-essential
16:30<judd>Package build-essential (devel, optional) in wheezy/i386: Informational list of build-essential packages. Version: 11.5; Size: 7.0k; Installed: 48k
16:31<Xylon>ah, I knew there must be one
16:31<Xylon>thankyou!
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16:40<critical1>I am having a really hard time tracing why my postinst script is not being invoked when using debconf and dbconfig-common. Can anyone help me trace this?
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16:41<critical1>Realized wrong room, forget it
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16:41<leonic>anime.net
16:41<leonic>rayos hello
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16:52<BradyForM>Hello there I am writing a application that makes armhf img's but when I run debootstrap(1st stage) I get the error. E: Invalid Release signature (key id 8B48AD6246925553)
16:52<BradyForM>debian-keyring and also ubuntu-keyring is installed
16:53<BradyForM>debootstrap --variant=buildd --foreign --arch $architecture $codeName mangoes-$architecture $mirror >> $debootstrapLogFile 2>&1
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16:59<BradyForM>I had set codeName two times going to try again/
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17:02<BradyForM>er now it is bringing back different keys Oo I: Valid Release signature (key id A1BD8E9D78F7FE5C3E65D8AF8B48AD6246925553)
17:03<BradyForM>I am so confused !
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17:08<SynrGy>different?
17:08<SynrGy>8B48AD6246925553 is A1BD8E9D78F7FE5C3E65D8AF8B4 8AD6246925553
17:09<SynrGy>just fewer bits
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17:09<SynrGy>oops, i clipped it in the wrong place :)
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17:09<SynrGy>8B48AD6246925553 is A1BD8E9D78F7FE5C3E65D8AF 8B48AD6246925553
17:10<BradyForM>SynrGy, why do you think that it was erroring out ?
17:10<SynrGy>doesn't have the keyring?
17:11<BradyForM>SynrGy, is there anyway to cache the 1st stage ?
17:11<BradyForM>like with a different variant ?
17:11<SynrGy>debootstrap does have an option to override the kerying
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17:11<SynrGy>nothing i know of
17:12<matt_>yoga flame
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17:12<BradyForM>what is yoga flame ?
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17:13<BradyForM>Dhalsim ?
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17:14<BradyForM>Why can I not touch a file that is not there ?
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17:15<BradyForM>touch: cannot touch '/foo/bar/odroidBuilder/odroid-U-jessie-0.2/bootp/boot/boot.txt': No such file or directory foo/bar is a example.
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17:16<retrospectacus>the dirname not exists
17:16<BradyForM>retrospectacus, so I need to to a mkdir -p or is there a way with touch ?
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17:16<BradyForM>thanks also
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17:17<retrospectacus>I believe you will need mkdir
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17:17<BradyForM>thanks
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17:28<BradyForM>Err it is doing it again !!!
17:30<BradyForM>http://i.imgur.com/Rzj2dkk.png
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17:40<SynrGy>BradyForM: as i said, you could force it to use a specific keyring. what's your build host?
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17:41<BradyForM>build host is amd64 target is armhf
17:41<SynrGy>not what i meant
17:41<SynrGy>debian? which release?
17:41<BradyForM>SynrGy, jessie
17:42<BradyForM>and build is also for jessie
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17:44<BradyForM>SynrGy, how to set the key ?
17:44<SynrGy>do you have the debian-archive-keyring package?
17:44<BradyForM>--keyring=
17:44<SynrGy>,v debian-archive-keyring
17:44<judd>Package: debian-archive-keyring on i386 -- squeeze: 2010.08.28+squeeze1; wheezy: 2014.3~deb7u1; sid: 2014.3; jessie: 2014.3
17:44<BradyForM>yeah I have the archive package
17:44<SynrGy>it should use that by default. and that key should be in it
17:45<BradyForM>http://paste.debian.net/164580/
17:45<BradyForM>http://paste.debian.net/164582/ << better sorry
17:46<BradyForM>I also have added the arch for i386 to my amd64 machine
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17:46<SynrGy>oops? why would you have ubuntu-archive-keyring?
17:47<SynrGy>,v debootstrap
17:47<judd>Package: debootstrap on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0.26+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.0.42~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.0.48+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1.0.64~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.0.67; sid: 1.0.67
17:47<SynrGy>what version of that do you have?
17:48<BradyForM>SynrGy, http://paste.debian.net/164584/ line 167
17:48<BradyForM>debootstrap --version
17:48<BradyForM>debootstrap 1.0.67
17:48<BradyForM>root@josephworkstat
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17:49<BradyForM>debootstrap:
17:49<BradyForM> Installed: 1.0.67
17:49<BradyForM> Candidate: 1.0.67
17:49<BradyForM> Version table:
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17:49<BradyForM>one line to many
17:50<SynrGy>so you're running a script that mixes debian and ubuntu?
17:50<BradyForM>SynrGy, the ubuntu keyring is installed so I can also make ubuntu images that I want
17:50<BradyForM>No
17:50<BradyForM>they are not mixed at all
17:50<BradyForM>there is a couple of if statements that is about it
17:51<BradyForM>but my main focus as it has been for about 10 years now is debian
17:51<ompaul>so you have sid
17:51<ompaul>or you don't have sid
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17:51<BradyForM>no sid My host is jessie
17:52<ompaul>jessie does not exist yet, it is either testing or sid
17:52<ompaul>can we have your sources.list please
17:52<BradyForM>okiedokie then I am on testing err
17:52<ompaul>can we have your sources.list please
17:53<BradyForM>http://paste.debian.net/164586/'
17:53<BradyForM>http://paste.debian.net/164586/
17:53<ompaul>so you have a ubuntu vm or what is going on?
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17:54<BradyForM>what ? Ubuntu is only used at all in a chroot env
17:54<BradyForM>ompaul, this is a builder for arm boards
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17:55<BradyForM>cross compiles uboot and the kernel uses debootstrap then some custom code the makes a img file partitions it out and then rync's the rootfs
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17:55<BradyForM>SynrGy, crazy it worked this time
17:56<ompaul>I'm just curious why chroot in this time of kvm and the better experience.
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17:56<ompaul>but I'll leave that question unanswered ;-)
17:57<BradyForM>http://i.imgur.com/bejIobp.png
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17:57<BradyForM>ompaul, this is arm
17:57<BradyForM>I use qemu-arm-static
17:57<BradyForM>SynrGy, see image above ^^
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17:59<SynrGy>finger problems? no idea.
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18:01<BradyForM>SynrGy, I have been know to have fat fingers
18:02<BradyForM>anyways I have to go thanks for your time. and have a good one
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21:47<S-ed>Greetings
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21:52<S-ed>I have problem with dhcp, just installed Debian (jessie) through netinst, but after boot "No DHCPOFFERS received."
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21:56<S-ed>is it possible to set up dhclient to work with particular dhcp server? not via broadcast address?
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22:28<thor>Am I being heard (aka Testing, 1,2,3)
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22:30<somiaj>!test
22:30<dpkg>Test failed.
22:30<somiaj>thor: no
22:30<thor>Cool, my first time in IRC for many years, and only second time ever.
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