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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-04-04

---Logopened Sat Apr 04 00:00:19 2015
00:01<kevin260>I did find out that I can in fact enable/disable extensions I see in the gnome tweak tool, but I can't download/install any new extensions - neither via the website nor manually
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00:03<lostson>normally you just click on the slider and it will install
00:03<lostson>at least that works for me
00:04<kevin260>yeah i do that and click install but nothing happens
00:04<lostson>hmm I have never had to click install
00:04<kevin260>do you see a download in your browser or anything when you install them? I'm pretty new to linux
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00:06<lostson>no there is a button it says off I click on it to turn it on and I get the extension simple as that for me
00:06<lostson>a window pops up and asks me to install I click accept and all good
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00:07<kevin260>wonder what the problem could be then
00:08<kevin260>trying to get https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/ in particular
00:08<lostson>not sure I just installed the media player indicator
00:09<lostson>does your browser ask to you to allow the site to identify your verison of Gnome
00:09<kevin260>not anymore, i have it set to always allow for the extensions site
00:10<lostson>I just installed that Dash to Dock with no issues
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00:11<kevin260>what gnome are you running?
00:12<lostson>3.14 on Debian Jessie
00:12<kevin260>hm
00:13<kevin260>the only thing i could think of is that im running jessie through crouton, or my gnome settings got messed up somehow?
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00:14<lostson>does it error out in any way ?
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00:14<kevin260>nope nothing at all happens
00:14<kevin260>i click install and it doesn't give any feedbacl
00:14<lostson>odd
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00:16<kevin260>im trying to look at .xsession-errors for anything
00:17<lostson>does the extension appear in gnome tweak tool
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00:18<kevin260>no - not even if i try to add it to /.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions
00:18<kevin260>manually
00:18<lostson>not sure then
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00:18<lostson>well I have to run good luck
00:18<kevin260>thanks!
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00:26<kevin260>can anyone help me out with my inability to install gnome extensions?
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00:37<kevin260>solved my problem!
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02:15<independent>hello? anyone alive?
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02:54<FlyingSquirl456>yo
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03:43<sami>I'm running debian testing and noticed that the boot gets stuck for about 3mins. kern.log says at that point like this
03:43<sami>Apr 3 19:44:37 htpc kernel: [ 9.020177] EXT3-fs (sda3): using internal journal
03:43<sami>Apr 3 19:44:37 htpc kernel: [ 194.788120] Adding 3145724k swap on /swapfile. Priority:-1 extents:795 across:3219320k SS
03:44<sami>and on the display:
03:44<sami>activating lvm and md swap
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03:44<sami>swap is a swapfile, defined in /etc/fstab
03:44<sami>I have no lvm, no md
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06:15<roberth1990>https://bpaste.net/raw/bf9c33af67be
06:15<roberth1990>hello anyone know what is wrong?
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06:15<roberth1990>I am on jessie
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06:37<Atomic_RTFM>Goddess
06:38<Atomic_RTFM>Good luck! Is there is anybody who speaking russian ?
06:39<valdyn>!ru
06:39<dpkg>Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
06:39<roberth1990>!no
06:39<dpkg>No Offense, or den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users.
06:40<roberth1990>cool
06:40<roberth1990>meh only one user there
06:40<Atomic_RTFM>Thank's.
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07:01<gaffa>robertf; try #debian-nordic
07:01<gaffa>sorry, I ment roberth1990
07:02<roberth1990>gaffa: thx
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07:04<Atomic_RTFM>Hi
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07:06<Atomic_RTFM>I was asking help in english#debian -russian . But, this people, that are now in this channel is really angry people. Why?!
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07:06<devil>Atomic_RTFM: în what way?
07:07<Atomic_RTFM>In aggressive way! I'm wrong
07:07<devil>how are they aggressive?
07:08<Atomic_RTFM>I'm wrong in my thinking
07:08<devil>well, maybe you are :)
07:08<Atomic_RTFM>They hate English
07:08<musca>roberth1990: also try #debian-no on freenode.net, the bot has the same factoids on both networks.
07:08<roberth1990>sorry to say it, but my experience is that the russian why of behaving is agressive...
07:09<roberth1990>musca: yeah I have tried it
07:09<devil>Atomic_RTFM: on the russian channel you should speak russian
07:09<Atomic_RTFM>Russians is very agressive people
07:10<devil>Atomic_RTFM: please make some sense
07:10<roberth1990>devil: but he has a point
07:11<valdyn>if you want to stereotype people, do it elsewhere, please
07:11<Atomic_RTFM>Yea . I I'm understand that
07:11<devil>roberth1990: with what?
07:12<devil>Atomic_RTFM: do you have a debian related question?
07:12<roberth1990>devil: how he describes russians, I have the exact same experience
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07:12<devil>roberth1990: some are, like with any other nation
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07:12<Atomic_RTFM>roberth1990: I'm understand thinking the same
07:13<roberth1990>devil: then why do only agressive ones travel outside or move outside of russia?
07:13<devil>Atomic_RTFM: off topic
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07:13<roberth1990>Atomic_RTFM: did you have a question about debian?
07:13<devil>roberth1990: off topic
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07:13<valdyn>roberth1990: you cant hear the silent, so what do you know about them?
07:13<Atomic_RTFM>devil: sorry for offtopic.
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07:14<roberth1990>valdyn: not a place to discuss it
07:14<Atomic_RTFM>Yes. I have some question abt debian
07:15<roberth1990>Atomic_RTFM: just ask then
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07:16<Atomic_RTFM>Pls, told me, what means a system message of:"recompile you stuff" ?
07:16<valdyn>Atomic_RTFM: thats not a system message
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07:17<Atomic_RTFM>But what means it means ?
07:17<valdyn>Atomic_RTFM: nothing useful
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07:17<Atomic_RTFM>*means
07:17<valdyn>Atomic_RTFM: its out of context
07:17<roberth1990>Atomic_RTFM: explain what you are trying to do
07:18<Atomic_RTFM>I'm was asking install a wheeze as new clean system message
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07:18<Atomic_RTFM>sorry for
07:19<roberth1990>Atomic_RTFM: well you are trying to installed debian 7.0 wheezy?
07:19<roberth1990>*install
07:19<Atomic_RTFM>Yes.
07:19<roberth1990>Atomic_RTFM: and where are you stuck?
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07:22<Atomic_RTFM2>Ok. Thank you!!
07:22<roberth1990>what?
07:22<Atomic_RTFM2>At rest I'm understand!!!
07:22<Atomic_RTFM2>Wow!
07:23<roberth1990>okay....
07:23<mohit7>hello all, I am trying to create a patch for a Debian package using quilt. I need some help with it, is it right place to query?
07:23<Atomic_RTFM2>I'm was stuppy!
07:24<Atomic_RTFM2>Yes! Its right place for asking!)
07:25<Atomic_RTFM2>Try to ask. In this channel a good people. Not russians!:-)
07:25<devil>Atomic_RTFM2: you are asking to be kicked
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07:26<Atomic_RTFM2>devil: Sorryme, pls.
07:26<devil>Atomic_RTFM2: just stop it
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07:26<Atomic_RTFM2>devil: I promise. :-)
07:27<Atomic_RTFM2>devil: Thank you.
07:28<mohit7>so I have created a diff using "quilt new diffname.diff" , added files to be edited and edited those files.
07:28<Atomic_RTFM2>Bye!
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07:29<mohit7>no how do I create a patch out of it?
07:29<mohit7>*now
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10:30<Newbie>Hi guys, I've read that the security team doesn't release security updates for Jessie/Testing, but then there is this jessie/updates in the security repo, just wondering, do they work with security in jessie or not...in some places it says they do
10:30<roberth1990>hmm baloo indexed 9 files of a several thousands of files and then stopped completely
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10:34<centrx>Newbie, There used to be testing security, but it was discontinued a long time ago.
10:34<centrx>Newbie, jessie/updates is there in anticipation of jessie being released
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10:35<centrx>Newbie, though it's there the whole time so every suite works the same
10:35<roberth1990>why must debian make it so hard to report bugs?
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10:35<Newbie>I see, and in some point of the cycle, testing/jessie recieve the same security updates as jessie?
10:35<centrx>roberth1990, Have you tried the 'reportbug' tool?
10:35<Newbie>or it will never fix those security holes like wheezy does
10:36<centrx>not sure what you mean
10:36<roberth1990>centrx: yeah but I dont want to set up a mail server just to report a bug, why cant just debian use a normal bug tracker?
10:36<centrx>Newbie, When jessie is released, it will have security updates, possibly a little before the release as well
10:37<Newbie>that's what I meant, thanks
10:37<Newbie>so I don't have to feel that insecure with jessie, just a bit late with security
10:37<centrx>roberth1990, reportbug will send the mail through a Debian mail server if you don't have one
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10:37<centrx>roberth1990, but you're right
10:37<centrx>bug system should be improved
10:37<roberth1990>centrx: well it starts asking me for smtp adress etc
10:37<centrx>roberth1990, enter none
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10:39<roberth1990>centrx: okay
10:39<Newbie>now that I see, it's just when jessie is released? so if I use testing instead of jessie I won't have those updates?
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10:39<centrx>Newbie, jessie has security updates, but they are delayed, generally 2-5 days
10:39<centrx>jessie/testing
10:40<centrx>Newbie, jessie will be released probably Apr 25, then it will have prompt security updates, possibly before that date
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10:40<Newbie>allright, that was my fear, I've read a lot of forums whining about that
10:40<centrx>Newbie, It's not good for public servers, but it's not really a problem for desktop machines
10:41<Newbie>well, thank you very much
10:41<Newbie>have a nice day
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10:51<roberth1990>anyone else had problems with baloo stopping to index after just a few files?
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12:52<roberth1990>has anyone managed to install skype on jessie
12:53<gbit>I don't but you probaly will need i386 arch
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12:55<roberth1990>gbit: that is fixed, but skype wants older versions of qt4 related libraries etc
12:55<roberth1990>https://bpaste.net/raw/5322957dd5c6
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12:59<gbit>roberth1990: try apt-get update;apt-get -f install
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13:01<roberth1990>gbit: afaik I cant use apt for local packages
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13:02<ompaul>has it a problem with newer packages ... http://linuxg.net/how-to-properly-install-skype-4-3-on-debian-and-derivatives-and-fix-the-crashes/
13:02<ompaul>you could run a vm of the older until the newer is available
13:02<alex>alguien habla español?
13:03<ompaul>why skype with friends like that you should tell them of freedom and get rid of microsoft from your computer
13:03<ompaul>!es
13:03<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
13:04<roberth1990>ompaul: that howto is obviously outdated, anyway skype is just nice to have, if I really need it I just use it on my android phone anyway
13:04<ompaul>roberth1990: it has the version number you are pointing at
13:04<ompaul>iirc
13:04<ompaul>or maybe not
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13:04<ompaul>,v libc6
13:04<judd>Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-security-lts: 2.11.3-4+deb6u5; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u8; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.13-38+deb7u8; jessie: 2.19-17; sid: 2.19-17; experimental: 2.21-0experimental0
13:05<roberth1990>ompaul: of skype yeah. but its obvioulsy for wheezy or older testing
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13:06<ompaul>roberth1990: eh please pastebin the following file and the output of the following command, /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-cache policy
13:09<roberth1990>ompaul: https://bpaste.net/raw/0485f1cefaf5 and https://bpaste.net/raw/be992f160f40
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13:12<ompaul>roberth1990: you have also dropbox repos enabled they might not be too friendly to your new install but that's a different story
13:13<roberth1990>ompaul: what?
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13:13<ompaul>roberth1990: upon further reading of your first paste - I note that the skype client wants a different generation of KDE libraries
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13:13<ompaul> skype depends on libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3).
13:14<ompaul>,v libqt4-dbus
13:14<judd>Package: libqt4-dbus on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.6.3-4+squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:4.6.3-4+squeeze2; wheezy: 4:4.8.2+dfsg-11; wheezy-backports: 4:4.8.6+dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3; sid: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3
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13:14<ompaul>so that binary is from pre history
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13:15<roberth1990>ompaul: yeah? that was my conclusion in the first place, the skype package is built for wheezy afaik
13:15<ompaul>na pre squeeze look at the lib - in fact I'd almost guess it is punched through with security holes
13:16<roberth1990>oh
13:16<roberth1990>skype websites says it requires squeeze or later
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13:26<HappyClam>Hi! I just install debian on a home server and I saw that I have access to all the file via sftp without login when I type "sftp://my-host.com" in iceweasel. Does anybody know why?
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13:28<roberth1990>HappyClam: its probably debians default setup
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13:28<valdyn>of course not
13:28<HappyClam>It seems strange to me this is default...
13:28<valdyn>HappyClam: it is not
13:28<roberth1990>HappyClam: did you do anything with debian after install?
13:28<valdyn>HappyClam: its not even true
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13:29<HappyClam>Forgot it! I configure a ssh key ><
13:29<HappyClam>Didn't know iceweasel handle it though
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13:35<HappyClam>Is it normal that allmost all files have permission set to 744 ?
13:35<HappyClam>Is there a way to jailed user in there home?
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13:44<ompaul>you can lock each user into their own space but they call to binaries in the main system
13:44<ompaul>if you are that new - you don't have multiple users one assumes
13:45<ompaul>in which case I strongly suggest you learn a bit about what you have before you go and lock yourself out of the machine
13:45<ompaul>given you did ssh-keyring and more you know more than you are saying or you are reading howtos on the internet
13:45<ompaul>in either case please
13:46<ompaul>!don't break debian
13:46<dpkg>it has been said that dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
13:46<ompaul>HappyClam: read that^^^^^^^^^^^^
13:46<HappyClam>thanks you, Found lots of info. I just didn't have the "lock" keyword
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13:46<HappyClam>I'll read this. Thanks
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15:50<roberth1990>on arch there is a package called "kdebase-kdialog" but I can't find it on debian, anyone know what its name is?
15:51<somiaj>!tell roberth1990 about search
15:51<somiaj>I don'
15:51<somiaj>I don't get any hits with kdialog
15:51<somiaj>roberth1990: what is in that package you need?
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15:53<roberth1990>somiaj: I have search with all the possible keywords I know of
15:54<roberth1990>somiaj: it provides a qt based file dialog for chromium
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16:02<somiaj>roberth1990: is that the name of the binary?
16:02<somiaj>looks like it is included in kde-baseapps-bin (did a file search over a package name search)
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16:06<roberth1990>somiaj: ah yeah that package has it, thanks!
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16:06<roberth1990>somiaj: didn't think of that method to be honest...
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16:44<SunRaycer>so, I rebooted my wheezy server after about 450 days and a number of apt-get upgrades and it failed to find my root partition due to failing to find my encrypted lvm volumes. the tools were all there in the maintenance shell to decrypt and activate the volumes after which it continued to boot fine. (cryptsetup, lvm pvscan, lvm vgchange)
16:44<SunRaycer>what likely broke (in I'm guessing an upgrade)?
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17:04<oscarr>hello, had someone did install of mesa with nino support and wine patched for that ?
17:06<towo`>since it is not in debian, i don't think so
17:07<towo`>and btw, gallium-nine is all other than ready and wine-staging is even not that stable
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17:10<PanoptiK>hi guys
17:10<PanoptiK>i ve got some problem with my modem
17:11<veltasV>Okay, I need qt5 for something, using Debian wheezy on a personal system, what does anyone reckon if it will be easier to track Debian sid instead, or to build and install Qt5?
17:11<PanoptiK>someone can help me??
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17:11<towo`>PanoptiK, no one knows
17:11<PanoptiK>haha
17:11<towo`>PanoptiK, no one has read about our problem
17:12<PanoptiK>im new here
17:12<veltasV>We're all new in the cosmos
17:12<PanoptiK>why is anyone talking in here
17:12<PanoptiK>??
17:12<veltasV>It's a channel
17:12<veltasV>Anyone can talk
17:12<awal>Trying to create some keyboard shortcuts here (fluxbox). ctrl left should be Control_L and ctrl right is Control_R right?
17:13<PanoptiK>you are developpers??
17:13<towo`>PanoptiK, as long you don't write your problem here, no one will help you
17:13<PanoptiK>right
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17:14<veltasV>awal: Not the right channel
17:14<veltasV>PanoptiK: Ask the question, don't ask to ask
17:14<PanoptiK>we are in cuba
17:14<PanoptiK>we re using modem conection
17:14<veltasV>towo`: You have a smart-ass answer for everyone else, please give me one. I'm basically flipping a coin here
17:14<PanoptiK>just 54kb
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17:15<veltasV>That is fantastic, what's Cuba like these days?
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17:15<PanoptiK>my friend has a modem but ubuntu dont recongnize it
17:15<awal>I just want to know if ctrl right when used for keyboard shortcut in an X config file should be refered as Control_R, no matters if is fluxbox or any other DE/WM, veltasV
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17:16<towo`>veltasV, since its near impossible to build qt5 under debian stable, i think going sid is the right way
17:16<PanoptiK>we are using gnome-ppp package
17:16<towo`>PanoptiK, this is #debian not #ubuntu
17:16<veltasV>towo`: Thanks!
17:16<veltasV>You may well have saved me a lot of time there
17:18<PanoptiK>but the problem is not so different
17:18<PanoptiK>its just for find generic drivers fo r a modem
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17:19<towo`>a serial modem does not need special driver
17:20<towo`>a usb modem should also not need special drivers
17:20<PanoptiK>its a usb modem
17:20<towo`>but again, here is #debian not #ubuntu
17:20<towo`>ask in an ubuntu channel
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17:20<PanoptiK>its not a question of operating system
17:21<Apollo>yes it is
17:21<Apollo>Wr cant help you here PanoptiK
17:21<towo`>http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-936658.html
17:21<towo`>eos
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17:24<PanoptiK>so what do you think about the new version of debian 8, its kinda girly
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17:25<towo`>what should we think about it?
17:26<PanoptiK>?
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17:44<oskie>hello, what's the debian channel for jessie user support?
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17:48<roberth1990>oskie: #debian-next
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17:50<oskie>roberth1990: thanks
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17:55<awal>,v sddm
17:55<judd>No package named 'sddm' was found in i386.
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18:38<roberth1990>I see that wheezy was released with chromium version 26, but when searching for chromium in the package database, I get version 37, is this update released through the backports repo for wheezy?
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18:39<somiaj>roberth1990: security stoped backporting security fixes to webbrowsers and provides newer version for secuirty fixes.
18:39<somiaj>They are first introduced via security.debian.org, but then put into wheezy proper at a point release.
18:40<roberth1990>somiaj: ah okay, so the newer versions are available as security updates?
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18:40<somiaj>correct. They still lag a bit from the newest. Im unsure if there is an esr version that gets tracked. And updates only happen when security holes are found, not regurally.
18:42<roberth1990>somiaj: as far as I have observed, almost every single chromium update jas security fixes, for firefox im not sure
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18:43<roberth1990>at least they state "security fixes" in almost any released
18:43<roberth1990>*release
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18:43<somiaj>firefox just has an ers version. When security holes are found the esr version is upgraded. Chromium is a bit different. And the fix is usually a version a few issues behind upstream, but not sure how they choose the one they use.
18:43<somiaj>ers=esr
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18:45<roberth1990>yeah chromium/chrome doesnt have any kind esr release, to get the latest security fixes you need the latest version
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18:57<roberth1990>somiaj: do you know what changes debian does to firefox which makes debian required to rebrand it?
18:59<zlatan>roberth1990, supporting longer their old releases AFAIK
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19:00<roberth1990>zlatan: in 2005 they had then changed more than that, "an extension manager which understands multi-user systems, for example."
19:02<zlatan>roberth1990, I think from recent maintainer blogs, there was a text that says that iceweasel and firefox are now almost identical (something in that sense)
19:03<zlatan>roberth1990, and if you just try to browse the net you would find something like this https://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel
19:03<centrx>roberth1990, They aren't required to make any changes
19:03<zlatan>but I guess these days browsing is hard
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19:11<somiaj>roberth1990: iceweasel just has any logos, graphics and name removed.
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19:17<jhutchins>roberth1990: Otherwise it's the same code as firefox.
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19:20<awal>there other changes too, like telemetry, stuffs related with data usage...
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19:21<jhutchins>awal: No.
19:21<jhutchins>!why iceweasel
19:21<dpkg>Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. Mozilla Corp revoked the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg> <iceweasel vs firefox>.
19:22<jhutchins>awal: The iceweasel packages are sometimes behind the latest firefox release, but they're the same code.
19:24<awal>jhutchins: probably yeah, bcuz i run esr and it's not as the standard release
19:25<somiaj>esr 'was' a standard release. It is just not updated every few months.
19:25<awal>but 'telemetry' in prefeferences -> advances was introduced in firefox 20+ and it still not present in iceweasel 30+
19:25<somiaj>i.e. at some point the standard release will become the next esr, and just be left at that state for security fixes only.
19:25<awal>advanced ^
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19:37<awal>jhutchins: in standard firefox windows version if you check 'preferences ---> advanced ' somewhere there there are 'telemetry' and 'health report' since v 20+ and compare to iceweasel, these features aren't present
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19:40<awal>same thing with many mozilla addons, there are changes, a good example is 'xul-ext-wot'.
19:40<awal>some changes are made regarding privacy/data usage
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19:42<awal>anyway, it's a good choice/idea (making these changes)
19:42<somiaj>so you are comparing a windows version to a linux version?
19:42<zlatan>awal, firefox windows version?
19:43<zlatan>awal, changes aren't made because mozilla said so, it's choice from debian
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19:43<zlatan>awal, only the trademark was the stepping stone in debian-mozilla relation
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19:44<zlatan>and the trademark was an issue because debian was supporting version that mozilla stopped
19:44<Texou>zlatan: only but esseNtial
19:45<Texou>at least in Debian policy
19:45<awal>somiaj: oh, yeah. i wasn't comparing with windows only . but ubuntu, mint, suse firefox package have these features (telemetry/health report)
19:46<awal>zlatan: of course , the changes are debian choice, not mozilla
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19:47<Texou>but a choice for reasons
19:47<awal>sure
19:48<awal>I'm glad debian make that changes, it's not a critic , just info
19:48<somiaj>awal: at build time you can lots of time choose what config features are included, this dosen't change that it is still the same code. I'm unsure on difference in build time configs between iceweasel and firefox's binaries.
19:48<somiaj>awal: and what we said still holds. code wise it is the same minus the branding (copyrighted trademarks)
19:48<awal>somiaj: right
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19:49<awal>yes same code, just config features are changed I believe so
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19:49<Texou>and security updates too
19:49<Texou>with the release numbers issue
19:50<Texou>anyway the kernel has the same situation
19:50<awal>yes. personally i'm glad to see that telemetry and health report aren't present in iceweasel, and many other privacy stuffs in extenssions
19:51<Texou>so am I
19:51<somiaj>Texou: for browsers security updates are newer versions. Security doesn't backport fixes into old browsers anymore (so the original reason mozilla said we can't use their trade marks is no longer the case)
19:51<Texou>oh ok
19:53<somiaj>yea iceweasel tracks the esr version and fixes go though moizzlas esr version then the debian team rebrands it.
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20:20<General>hi there
20:20<Texou>hi
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20:21<General>This server is so quit!
20:23<General>I mean quiet
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20:24<zlatan>what you expect - a spring festival....
20:24<zlatan>do you*
20:25<General>nope but an interesting discussion will work for me
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20:26<zlatan>it's debian stable support channel...people ask, people answer
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20:26<zlatan>and it's already Sunday in Europe
20:26<zlatan>people sleep or rest
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20:28<General>sorry I forgot that in Europe people sleep earlier that chicken do
20:28<General>*than
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20:31<zlatan>okay, you are troll and stupid (or you tried to be funny but it failed for me) - btw, it's half past 2 CET currently
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20:33<dondelelcaro>zlatan: please don't escalate; if you want, /ignore people.
20:33<zlatan>dondelelcaro, yep, sorry...goign to sleep
20:33<General>it's a general fact just to remind you, but it's ok.. anyway gn
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20:48<gmbs>My apt-get updates and apt-get dugrades have involved very show download phases over the past 48 hours. Not a problem with my bandwidth. Ideas?
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20:48<gmbs>*upgrades
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20:50<medicalwei>gmbs, did you try changing apt mirrors?
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20:52<gmbs>medicalwei, Yes I did, with netselect-apt
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20:53<medicalwei>gmbs, try not following its advice?
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20:54<gmbs>medicalwei, OK. I will try yet another mirror.
20:55<musca>!hdn
20:55<dpkg>To have <APT> automatically select a mirror geographically close to you, you can use a Geo-IP service from http.debian.net. An example line for your sources.list is "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main". See http://http.debian.net/ for more information. Unlike <cdn.debian.net>, it is safe to use with Google DNS etc because it uses HTTP 302 redirects. See also <which http.debian.net>.
20:56<musca>well, "near" is not neccessarily fast, but maybe worth a try.
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20:58<General>ping
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20:59<gmbs>Thanks. Seems to work better.
21:00<General>ctcp %2 VERSION
21:00<General>VERSION
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21:22<Autofire>I was about to ask for help on something but then I realized that there might be an faq that answered my question. I might be able to solve my problem...maybe...
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21:30<Autofire>I believe I have a problem with a bad perl script
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21:31<Autofire>I've tried googling the error I get but I only got things that seemed unrelated to my issue
21:32<Autofire>This is the error (and my command): http://pastebin.com/UuPdfbpt
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21:37<ir0nsh007er>Autofire:uname -a
21:37<Autofire>Linux gasgas 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux
21:38<ir0nsh007er>Autofire: nano ../sourcelist
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21:39<Autofire>no such file. Am I supposed to make one?
21:39<ir0nsh007er>no .. w8
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21:39<ir0nsh007er>sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
21:41<somiaj>Autofire: looks like something core is corrupt. Can you start by giving us the output of apt-cache policy at paste.debian.net (prefer it over pastebin.com)
21:41<Autofire>http://pastebin.com/PF8biykn
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21:41<Alphawave>hi
21:41<Autofire>Somiaj: Oh, okay. I'll start using your paste service. Just a second
21:42<Alphawave>can someone help me to get an email pw _
21:43<Autofire>http://paste.debian.net/165001/
21:43<ir0nsh007er>sorry somiah
21:43<ir0nsh007er>somiaj*
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21:44<somiaj>Autofire: do this, 'ls -l /var/cache/debconf'
21:45<somiaj>Autofire: I belive the debconf cache directory got deleted on your system, just checking to see if it is there.
21:45<ir0nsh007er>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Jessie/Upgrades
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21:48<ir0nsh007er>http://paste.debian.net/165002
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21:49<somiaj>ir0nsh007er: do you have an issue? You have some unffoical sources, there is no guarntee they also have jessie sources if that is your issue.
21:49<somiaj>also if you are doing a dist-upgrade, I do suggest disabling third party repos at least for the upgrade, you can enable them later.
21:49<ir0nsh007er>yep beter option
21:50<Autofire>somiaj: You're right. The directory *is* missing. :o
21:50<ir0nsh007er>no issue here
21:50<ir0nsh007er>all go fine
21:50<somiaj>Autofire: you might be able to get away with just creating that directory. You might also be missing some debconf data, but not sure how critical it is. I saw suggestions to just create that directory to reinstall the debconf package.
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21:53<Autofire>somiaj: I created the directory, and tried apt-get -f install again. Got lot's of messages like. But let me check if the packages were actually installed. "ldconfig: /usr/local/lib/libisl.so.10.1.1-gdb.py is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start."
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21:53<Autofire>That came out wrong... :S But libc6 is now updated. Thanks!
21:56<ir0nsh007er>good to ear
21:56<somiaj>Autofire: well that file that ldconfig is compaling about is some local python script that was not installed by debian.
21:56<somiaj>you can tell that by it lives in /usr/local, that is something you installed.
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21:58<Autofire>somiaj: Ah, I see. Things are a little bit of a mess ever since this computer was switched from Slackware to Debian. /usr/local is in its own partition, so some of the programs are a tad old...it's a bit of a relic from when Slackware and Debian were being co-used. (Before Debian was fully setup)
22:00<Autofire>I'm wondering, though...how'd you figure out that /var/cache/debconf was missing? This is partially out of curiosity but also so that I can solve a similar problem if it comes up.
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22:01<somiaj>Autofire: I found the only error in the paste you linked, and fed it to google.
22:02<Autofire>Oh...huh. Maybe I fed the wrong part of the output to google. :S
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22:04<somiaj>Autofire: debconf: dbdriver "config": mkdir :no such file or directory
22:04<somiaj>That is what I searched for.
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22:05<Autofire>Ah, ok. I used lines 21-25. (Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/File.pm line 44, etc... )
22:06<Autofire>Thanks a lot. ^.^
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22:29<dcotet>are you even considering motherfucker ?
22:30<dcotet>sorry this was a test
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23:13<prototypejesus>any sexy hoes up in her?
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