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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-04-09

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01:25<jack_>hello, everyone!
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03:07<tuor>hi, is there a programm which can manage passwords but: secure ;), versioning (history), sync with multiple user (need an offline copy), usable on linux and windows (windows need graphics, GUI or WebUI), no need of mono, opensource
03:07<tuor>I hope I didn't forget something. We are using Keepass2 at the moment, but it's not working so well with mono, and scripting is not so nice to.
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03:15<twb>Hey, I was asking about /var/spool/cups/tmp/.fontconfig yesterday. FYI this is already fixed in jessie's cupsd.
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03:38<Zeldafan80>hi has anyone tried sparky linux?
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03:41<twb>!derivative
03:41<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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03:42<Zeldafan80>will do joined off topic
03:42<Tessa>dpkg is a bot, right?
03:42<dpkg>i haven't a clue, Tessa
03:44<Tessa>sorry, it just sounded like the bot in linux mint help
03:44<Zeldafan80>mint has a built in bot?
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03:45<Tessa>to provide forum registration codes
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03:45<jm_>dpkg are you a bot?
03:45<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
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03:49<AberHatschi>hehe
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03:52<twb>jm_: it's even worse in #emacs where the bot autoresponds to questions like "what is a dog?" and people interact with it like a normal person (where it responds with a related quote from the channel logs.)
03:52<jm_>twb: heh we had a bot like that at work
03:53<twb>I wish we did, but I'm not prepared to deploy emacs just for erbot.
03:53<twb>We have supybot instead which is dumb as bricks.
03:54<jm_>ours was infobot so similar to what's used here
03:57<Tessa>lol
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04:47<twb>Is there a way to tell stunnel to use a less daft log format?
04:48<twb>"stunnel: LOG3[2741:139840143697664]: [...]" -- that appears to be severity, pid and then epoch time
04:49<twb>I want stunnel[<pid>]; syslog is already doing the timestamp properly. syslog-summary can't understand the craziness.
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04:53<twb>Getting nowhere with the manpage, twb valiantly reaches for the source.
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04:54<twb>Crit fumble! The tarball explodes, reducing twb's hand to wet chunks.
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05:15<twb>Argh. It's src/log.c:s_log and the stupid format is hard-coded in.
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06:10<Xylon>Hi, my icewesel won't let me clear cache
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06:11<musca>Xylon: hmm? How so?
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06:11<Xylon>I clicked Preferences→Advanced→Network→"Clear Now"
06:11<Xylon>nothing happens
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06:11<Xylon>completely nothing
06:11<Xylon>oh, yes it does
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06:12<Xylon>OK I expected a popup or something
06:12<Xylon>The button gives like no actual feedback when you click it but I now see that my cache is using 0 bytes of space
06:12<musca>Ctrl-Shift-Del brings a popup
06:13<Xylon>ah, that's much better
06:13<Xylon>and it lets me choose what to clear
06:13<Xylon>there was a day when I knew how to use firefox/iceweasel
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06:15<Xylon>OK now iceweasel has crashed XD
06:16<Xylon>it' using 100% CPU but is completely non-responive
06:16<Xylon>I wonder what ... oh it woke up
06:17<musca>"has crashed" was wrong wording in this case.
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06:18<Xylon>yeah
06:18<ThomasKeller>Hello, I need to compile libvte9 without gnome-pty-helper
06:18<ThomasKeller>I have the package source (apt-get source libvte9)
06:18<ThomasKeller>I see, there exists the option --disable-gnome-pty-helper
06:19<ThomasKeller>and I see this option used in debian/rules
06:19<ThomasKeller>DEB_CONFIGURE_FLAGS_udeb += \
06:19<ThomasKeller> --disable-python \
06:19<ThomasKeller> --disable-gnome-pty-helper
06:19<ThomasKeller>but this does not disable gnome-pty-helper
06:20<ThomasKeller>where do I have to put the option "--disable-gnome-pty-helper" to build the package without ?
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06:23<ThomasKeller>should I perhaps add it to DEB_CONFIGURE_FLAGS_main
06:23<ThomasKeller>or DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS ?
06:23<jm_>does --disable-gnome-pty-helper work with upstream source?
06:24<ThomasKeller>I have not tried with upstream source
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07:25<geek-mg>Hello everybody
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07:27<musca>hi geek-mg
07:27<geek-mg>could anyone help me setting up my coovachilli (captive portal server)? I successed installation but when I arrived in the login page, when I press the login button the broswer
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07:28<geek-mg>'the browser's fetching up data whereas it doesn't return anything. after a certain time, it returns into the login page
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07:28<geek-mg>Hi MUSCA. Glad to meet you! I comes from Madagascar
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07:30<jm_>geek-mg: you should look for help elsewhere if it's not a debian package provided by debian, which this thing doesn't seem to be
07:30<veltasV>Wow madagascar
07:31<musca>welcome geek-mg, you seem to be a friendly guy, but we strictly try to stay on the technical level here in this debian linux support channel.
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07:34<geek-mg>it's very kind of you. thanks everybody. in fact, i think this channel doesn't correspond into my problem. I will find elsewhere. I find your channel very interesting in the field of Debian community. Thanks!
07:34<geek-mg>veltasV: Have you ever come in Madagascar?
07:35<veltasV>Nope
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07:35<geek-mg>I wish you'll visit our good country soonly!
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07:36<veltasV>Nah, last time someone asked me if I wanted to go to Madagascar the Earth was destroyed and I ended up hitchhiking in space
07:37<geek-mg>oh! you're so funny
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07:40<abrotman>!ot
07:40<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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10:00<crane>I'm trying to build vagrant images with packer. Therefore I created a preseed file but I'm stuck at the beginning of the installation where i have to choose a language. This is the start of my preseed file. Anything messed up there? http://paste.debian.net/165921/
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10:41<myname>hi
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10:45<ghostkid>hu
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10:45<ghostkid>hi
10:45<ary>Hi. Some one know how can I speed up my debian wheezy?
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10:46<ghostkid>i use linux mint
10:46<Xylon>lol wat
10:47<Xylon>this is for debian discussion
10:47<Xylon>ary: what ware you using debian for? server desktop?
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10:48<ghostkid>yes
10:50<ary>Xylon, Desktop
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10:51<somiaj>ary: light weight wms or lxde are ways to get things to run faster on some older hardware.
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10:54<ary>somiaj, My config is not so bad.Here it is: Amd Phenom X3 720 2800mhz, 4Gb Ram, 4 HD 500 gb, Fonte 500w, MB Asrock 960 GC-GS
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10:54<somiaj>ary: I have a similar system and I still run on a light weight wm because things just respond faster.
10:54<somiaj>I also use an SSD, but over all what is going slow that you want to speed up?
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10:57<ary>somiaj, All the programs (iceweasel, icedove, teamviewer, banshee, etc...) start up.
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11:01<somiaj>oh startup speed is mostly a function of hd.
11:01<somiaj>with out an ssd you cna't speed startup speed that much (lightweight wm does some but not much for that)
11:02<somiaj>I think you can do the window's trick with popular programs and partily load them into memory during boot, that way they seem to start faster because they are partly loaded. I'm unsure on the details here.
11:03<somiaj>ary: another thing is use sesson management. So when you log into your session all of those applications are loaded. This way once in memeory they run fast (this of course increase the initial amount of time to load your session, but results in faster speed after)
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11:08<tertu>I'm trying to get hardware 3D to work on my laptop, it's based on a core i5-4210U which has an Intel HD Graphics 4400 core in it
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11:08<tertu>i'm running wheezy with the 3.16 kernel from backports
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11:09<somiaj>tertu: did you install the xserver-xorg-video-intel from backports as well?
11:09<tertu>nope
11:09<tertu>i'll try that again
11:10<tertu>i remember getting errors every time something tried to use 3D though
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11:10<somiaj>tertu: you can check 'glxinfo' and 'xvinfo' from your running xorg session to see what is enabled
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11:11<musca>2.99 still missing even in jessie.
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11:12<tertu>yeah it's happening again
11:12<tertu>glxgears crashes with BadAlloc upon launch
11:12<tertu>as does glxinfo
11:13<somiaj>tertu: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, 'glxinfo', see what is actually being detected/loaded.
11:13<somiaj>hmm, something seems strange if youa re getting that error. glxinfo should just say no extensions found if things weren't loaded correctly
11:13<somiaj>tertu: you are running debian wheezy and haven't mixed in any third party sources? (besides wheezy-backports)
11:14<tertu>i'll take a look at my sources but i'm pretty sure i have nothing third-party
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11:15<somiaj>,v libmesa
11:15<judd>No package named 'libmesa' was found in i386.
11:15<tertu>okay so it does seem to be loading the intel driver
11:16<somiaj>,v libgl1-mesa-glx
11:16<judd>Package: libgl1-mesa-glx on i386 -- squeeze: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-security: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-backports: 7.10.3-4~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1; sid: 10.4.2-2
11:16<tertu>huh
11:17<tertu>backports doesn't have the updated mesa
11:17<tertu>if it would matter
11:17<somiaj>well google is suggesting the bug is in mesa
11:17<tertu>i'd do a jessie upgrade except last time i tried that i destroyed my machine
11:17<tertu>more or less
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11:18<awal>Guys, sorry but I' a bit lost in man xfce4-power-manager. I run "xfce4-power-manager --quit" in terminal for stop it when I don't need it , but I dont understand exactly how to start it again in the background when needed. I use it under fluxbox, loaded via fbautostart.
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11:19<somiaj>tertu: Is your hardawre fully supported on the 3.2 and drivers from wheezy (not wheezy-backports)
11:19<tertu>no
11:20<somiaj>tertu: wonder if you are hitting a bug due to the newer kernel with the older libmesa.
11:20<tertu>could be, probably is
11:20<tertu>but if i use the older kernel i don't get 3D at all
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11:23<somiaj>tertu: well I'm unsure the best course of action here. Not sure where the bug exactally lives, but I seem to get libmesa causing that issue in other distros. Didn't find any relvent debian bugs.
11:23<somiaj>tertu: jessie is very close to being released, so besides security support it is fairly solid. Not sure if that would help your problem. Just a thought.
11:23<tertu>i'd like to do it
11:23<tertu>what's the proper procedure to do so?
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11:26<somiaj>!tell tertu about wheezy->jessie
11:26<somiaj>note since the release is not yet finalized the release notes may not contain all known issues, but they are still suggested to be read
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11:31<tertu>okay i did something stupid
11:32<tertu>i tried to install the jessie gl1 packages directly and now i just want to uninstall them and revert to the wheezy packages
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11:32<tertu>but it doesn't seem to let me do that
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11:33<mtn>tertu: chances are you need to fully upgrade to jessie or reinstall wheezy
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11:33<somiaj>tertu: yea mixing things like that can cause problems, may have to manually get ahold of the debs in /var/cache/apt/archvies, or packages.debian.org and fix the issue or listen to mtn
11:33<somiaj>!partial downgrade
11:33<dpkg>This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>.
11:34<tertu>nope, fixed it
11:34<tertu>dpkg seems to not really care about dependencies
11:34<dpkg>no idea, tertu
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11:34<tertu>so i just used it to install the wheezy packages and it was fine
11:35<tertu>okay, well i'll start the jessie upgrade later
11:35<tertu>thanks for dealing with me
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11:50<luckyuser>орпорпор
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11:53<tertu>!tell tertu about wheezy->jessie
11:55<somiaj>tertu: /msg dpkg factoid (don't need to tell yourself)
11:55<tertu>yeah, i did that for the next question i sent
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12:18<fcfdssdf>hi. i have debian jessie with gnome. when i do the rightklick in nautilus there is no 'create file' button. how can i create an file?
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12:21<somiaj>fcfdssdf: why do you want to create a file. Usually you don't create files with a file manager (only directoires).
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12:23<fcfdssdf>what why? beacause i just want to.
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12:25<lostatwork>use touch in a gnome terminal
12:25<somiaj>fcfdssdf: then use touch, file managers don't create files, they manage files. Usually files are created by the software you want. i.e. if you want a text file, y ou use your editor to create it. But the cli tool 'touch' does just that, creates blank files.
12:26<fcfdssdf>my question is. is the function just disabled or is there no easy way to get create file back in the rightclick menu
12:26<fcfdssdf>so is it possible or not. because i did it in wheezy, windows, nearly every os i used.
12:26<lostatwork>no it is not coming back and there is no extension for it
12:26<somiaj>fcfdssdf: I don't use file managers enough to know if this is a common feature or not. But I see little reason why you need to create a file in a file manager (directories is a different)
12:27<somiaj>fcfdssdf: but seems it was a feature that was removed. But really I see an X-Y problem. Why do you want to create a file and what do you want to do with it?
12:27<lostatwork>other file managers still do this you could use one of those instead if you want
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12:30<fcfdssdf>i create it and the i double klickon it to openit with the attached programm its not the most efficient way to do but over the years it established in miy workflow. and now its gone and i dont really see why its gone because creating a file could also be understood as managing files. but i think i just have to deal with it
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12:31<awal>fcfdssdf: sadly, the only solution with recent nautilus versions is create the file using gedit or what ever you want and save it then in your home.
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12:32<lostatwork>yeah the Gnome devs are simplifying things so no way around it at this time
12:32<awal>alternatively, you may want to install pcmanfm as alternative
12:32<somiaj>fcfdssdf: yea sorry I didn't realize it was a common feature. What I get for using the cli to much 'gedit filename' -- done (:
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12:34<awal>yeah, gnome simplifying things but simplifying = less feature every day more and one have to install extensions and more extensions making gnome-shell more heavy and unstable
12:34<Gabriel_7>fcfdssdf: Don't worry, nautilus is extensible. You just need to find someone willing to write plugin for this…
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12:34<lostatwork>or simply switch file managers
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12:35<canaima>hola como estas
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12:36<fcfdssdf>so i hope someone capable to write such a plugin also creates files like i do
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12:37<somiaj>fcfdssdf: sounds like it may come back, it won't make it into jessie though.
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14:32<MozillaFirefox>Hello! I wanted to ask if installing kcachegrind / kdbg from the Wheezy repos (without kde), could risk messing up other DE/WM setups (Gnome, Openbox etc.) Thanks.
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14:52<awal>25 april release date for Jessie? sound's not real with 99 bugs...
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14:53<lostatwork>you never know April 25th is quite a ways away yet
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15:00<MozillaFirefox>Um, sorry for pinging, but could somebody help me? Thanks
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15:04<Apollo>!ask
15:04<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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15:06<MozillaFirefox>Thanks for your answer! I asked the question a while ago, here it is pasted "Hello! I wanted to ask if installing kcachegrind / kdbg from the Wheezy repos (without kde), could risk messing up other DE/WM setups (Gnome, Openbox etc.) Thanks."
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15:09<tertu>the packages are set up such that kcachegrind only pulls in as much of KDE as it needs, which in its case is a bunch of support libraries
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15:09<tertu>so no, it shouldn't be a problem
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15:10<tertu>especially with gnome
15:10<jhutchins_wk>MozillaFirefox: All of the DEs available within Debian should be compatible, you can install 'em all if you want!
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15:11<MozillaFirefox>Oh, okay then! Thanks a lot :)
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15:13<MozillaFirefox>Have a nice day/night.
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16:12<matvon>Hello
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16:13<lostatwork>good afternoon
16:13<matvon>I've submitted a patch for bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=779217 can someone review it?
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16:44<jhutchins_wk>matvon: Not many devs here, mostly just fellow users.
16:44<jhutchins_wk>matvon: You might check in #debian-mentors @ oftc.net
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16:47<matvon>jhutchins_wk: Ok, thanks.
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16:49<roberth1990>why is debhelper adjusting channel limit from time to time?
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16:50<jhutchins_wk>roberth1990: It's to throttle join floods but still allow as man new users as want to connect.
16:51<roberth1990>join floods?
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16:54<jhutchins_wk>roberth1990: Large number of people joining at one time.
16:54<jhutchins_wk>roberth1990: You can hide those messages
16:54<roberth1990>jhutchins_wk: yeah but why would that be a problem?
16:54<jhutchins_wk>roberth1990: Same as other floods.
16:54<roberth1990>okay
16:55<jhutchins_wk>roberth1990: A lot of the precautions date back to when this was relayed over serial modems.
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16:59<roberth1990>jhutchins_wk: so basically debians irc mamagement hasnt been adapted to the modern internet?
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16:59<mrfrog>hello people
16:59<mrfrog>hola seniores
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17:01<musca>hello mrfrog
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17:05<GyrosGeier>I've just installed a system the hard way (debootstrap + apt-get install gnome) because the BIOS is locked
17:05<GyrosGeier>what do I have to do in order to get a working splash screen?
17:05<Brigo>install playmouth
17:05<mrfrog>install kde
17:06<GyrosGeier>plymouth I have installed, but I still get "Loading" and fsck messages in text mode, then a switch to another text mode, and lots of service status reports
17:06<GyrosGeier>I use gummiboot and systemd
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17:07<Brigo>i think you have to configure grub -or gummiboot? to use plymouth
17:08<Brigo>GyrosGeier, if you are using grub you can do it in /etc/default/grub.
17:08<GyrosGeier>no, using gummiboot
17:08<GyrosGeier>because EFI
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17:08<GyrosGeier>and because the system is for someone who should not be presented a boot menu
17:09<GyrosGeier>hm
17:09<Brigo>i know nothing about gummiboot, sorry.
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17:09<Brigo>GyrosGeier, may be in the gummmiboot documentantion. I think you have to add splash in the kernel line
17:10<GyrosGeier>ah okay
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17:11<GyrosGeier>better, but not good yet
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17:28<mrfrog>is there anyone who likes to share knowledge
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17:30<Xylon>mrfrog, nah, I just like to annoy people
17:30<mrfrog>oh really
17:30<mrfrog>so I guess irc's is a waste of time
17:31<mrfrog>hola donvito?
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17:45<ary>Hi. How can I compile the kernel for my specific hardware?
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17:50<rudi_s>ary: Install the kernel source package and run make deb-pkg (after copying the config from /boot and running make menuconfig and adapting the config if nececessary).
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17:50<rudi_s>But most of the time it's not necessary and won't give you any benefits.
17:50<rudi_s>(The kernel is just a little smaller.)
17:51<rudi_s>There's also a target to disable all modules which are not currently needed, but I forgot the name.
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18:32<Guest1598>hi
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18:34<Guest1598>ı just installed the debian on my vm, but the apperances of it is so terrible. when i open the firefox, the toolbar is lower level, hence i could not do anything
18:35<Guest1598>ı could not see anything on web browser
18:35<Guest1598>any help??
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18:37<pythia>anybody?
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18:42<pythia>heeeeeey
18:42<pythia>say something
18:43<pythia>pls dont feel me alone
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18:44<Brigo>!ask
18:44<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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18:46<pythia>ı asked
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19:49<tpatt>Hi all, could someone help me with an audio issue in Jessie?
19:50<Brigo>tpatt, may be if yo explain it.
19:50<tpatt>ok, just wanted to make sure there was a breath of life here...
19:51<ary>Hi. Using the comand lsmod I got this: http://paste.debian.net/166017/ All modulos where "Used by" is 0, means that they are not in use?
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19:51<Brigo>ary, i think so.
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19:53<tpatt>The original issue was major freezing during mp3 playback when using pulse. I then went to alsa but couldn't stand not being able to mix. I went from using alsa to trying oss, so i built the kernel module and installed. I then realized I had an HDD issue, so I moved my music to another drive and reinstalled pulseaudio. I reinstalled the kernel image and everything was working, but it seems every time I reboot I have to do a
19:53<tpatt> modprobe to get my audio recognized again. Then today, after a modprobe snd_hda_intel, it's only recognizing my analog output, not my digital
19:53<ary>Brigo, you think or you have shure? Because I am a newbe.
19:54<Brigo>ary, i think, as i said. :)
19:56<ary>Brigo, i want to take of unecessary modules from the start up.
19:57<Brigo>tpatt, for automatic module load, you have to create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ (sound.conf for exaple) and just list the modules you want to load there.
19:57<Brigo>ary, why?
19:57<Brigo>ary, they are just some kbytes.
19:58<mtn>ary: how do you know you will never need them?
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19:59<tpatt>Brigo, thank you. Am I safe to remove all of the OSS files from modprobe.d?
19:59<Brigo>tpatt, if you do not need them, yes.
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20:00<ary>mtn, if is not in use???
20:00<tpatt>is a reboot necessary to test/activate?
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20:00<tpatt>ary, what are you trying to gain?
20:00<mtn>ary: you will never add or use other hardware or services?
20:00<Brigo>tpatt, if you want to test if the module is load at boot time, then yes, you will need a boot :D
20:01<ary>Brigo, if i unload them my system will not speedup?
20:01<Brigo>ary, not at all.
20:01<mtn>ary: they aren't loaded in the first place
20:01<ary>I am trying to gain speed
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20:02<retrospectacus>you've already lost way more time than you would possibly gain
20:02<ary>mtn, for exemple, i have alsa modules and pulseaudio loaded
20:02<mtn>ary: sure, you are using both and should be
20:03<retrospectacus>it is a common misconception that you don't need alsa if you have pulse
20:03<ary>mtn, lol. My mystake. alsa-utils
20:03<ary>how do i speed up my system so?
20:03<mtn>ary: bottom line, if you don't know what you are doing, leave things like this alone. life will be much better that way
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20:04<mtn>ary: alsa-utils is very useful, too
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20:05<ary>mtn, I am not soooooo newbe mate. I understand a litle. I f i doesnt scratch i will not learn.
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20:05<mtn>ary: ok, good luck. have fun
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20:06<mtn>ary: if it isn't broke, you aren't trying hard enough :P
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20:06<ary>mtn, cmon pall. Share a litle of your knowledge!!
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20:07<mtn>ary: already did and you don't want to hear it. see ya.
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20:08<ary>mtn, keep all for your self mate. I hope you die without teach enybody!
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20:09<ary>thare is some one who wants to help?
20:09<ary>I am trying to speed up my system to get a better performance!
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20:21<tpatt>Brigo, OK, what do I put in the sound.conf file? just one line with the name of the module?
20:22<Brigo>yes, just it.
20:22<Brigo>snd_hda_intel
20:22<tpatt>i think it's snd-hda-intel, right?
20:23<tpatt>I had it wrong
20:23<tpatt>either way, it loads, but does not detect my digital output, only analog
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20:24<Brigo>tpatt, you may need some configuration
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20:25<Brigo>tpatt, it could help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
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20:31<tpatt>Brigo, after looking at that, I'm missing the two alsa files
20:31<tpatt>I also have no alsa modules in modprobe.d
20:32<tpatt>could that be the issue?
20:32<Brigo>it could be, i am not an expert about alsa at all :)
20:32<Brigo>tpatt, what 2 files?
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20:33<tpatt>/usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz
20:33<tpatt>and
20:33<tpatt>/usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz
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20:35<Brigo>well, they are just documentation. They are with the kernel documentation.
20:35<Brigo>you can install it with apt-get install linux-doc
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20:37<Greyull>So, I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I've been having an issue with massive volumes of traffic coming from a new system of mine taking down my entire network.
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20:38<Greyull>Is this the right place to ask, or is there somewhere else I should go?
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20:38<Brigo>Greyull, if you think that is a network issue you could try #networking in freenode.
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20:39<Brigo>of course we can try to help you if you tell us what's the problem and if you are using debian.
20:40<Greyull>Well, that's part of the thing and part of why I don't think it's entirely related here - that system started out on CentOS, exhibited the same behavior. I swapped it to Debian and it was fine for about a day, then repeated the same behavior.
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20:40<Greyull>I've replaced just about every piece of hardware on the system, too.
20:40<tpatt>Greull, I would suspect a physical NIC problem
20:40<tpatt>the nic?
20:40<tpatt>it's a wired nic, correct?
20:40<Greyull>I tried a USB NIC, still repeated the same issue even with the onboard NIC disabled.
20:41<Greyull>Wired NIC, yeah.
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20:41<tpatt>how do you it's the device that's transmitting the traffic?
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20:41<tpatt>i mean, how do you know it's that specific box?
20:42<Greyull>Two things - one, disconnecting it from the network stops the entire network from crashing. Two, I grabbed a software called "nethogs" which shows any connections currently made.
20:42<Greyull>It tries to tie them to the process creating them as well (I first suspected a broken script), but it doesn't work too well with that.
20:42<tpatt>have you changed out the cabling between nic and switch?
20:42<Greyull>Yeah.
20:42<tpatt>and changed switch port?
20:42<Greyull>Yep.
20:43<Brigo>Greyull, are you using a switch without stp?
20:43<tpatt>does it go into wall cabling or just a single cable?
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20:43<Greyull>Brigo: Not sure.
20:43<tpatt>stp = spanning tree
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20:43<Greyull>Tpatt: It goes from this switch to a wireless access point that's acting as a switch, into a cable that goes down the wall to the primary router.
20:43<tpatt>you did a base debian install, and it does the same thing?
20:43<Brigo>spanning tree protocol to avoid loops, a loop could explain the problem.
20:44<Greyull>Yeah, tpatt
20:44<Greyull>Brigo: I don't know if it supports that. It's just a basic... D-Link switch, if I recall.
20:44<Greyull>I have a spare 8-port trendnet switch, my next plan was to try using that.
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20:44<tpatt>and if you plug directly into the cable that goes from switch to switch?
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20:45<Greyull>Haven't tried that.
20:45<tpatt>is it the only thing plugged into that access point?
20:45<Brigo>loops could happen when there are more than one path from one computer -or switch to another.
20:46<Greyull>The access point has three cables in it - one going to my desktop (what I am talking from currently), one going to the primary router (plus external gateway), and one going to the switch connecting my fileserver, this new server, and the NAS within the house.
20:46<tpatt>right... is it also in bridge mode? acting as a client to the main router?
20:46<Greyull>Yeah.
20:46<Greyull>At least, it should be.
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20:46<Greyull>Let me verify.
20:46<tpatt>i mean wireless bridge
20:46<tpatt>so you can have wireless signal in the far room
20:47<Greyull>Ah. The primary router (the ISP-supplied one) is also a wireless router, and since they once caused conflicts they broadcast on separate SSIDs.
20:47<tpatt>ok, so not bridged
20:48<Greyull>I'd also like to mention that none of these issues existed until I set up this new server.
20:48<Greyull>It is also good to note however that to avoid having cabling all over the house, there are a couple PoE adapters. I don't think any are currently plugged in though. Let me verify.
20:48<tpatt>can you see if it connects at half duplex?
20:48<Brigo>Greyull, is there any service running it that server?
20:49<Greyull>Two PoE adapters are plugged in.
20:49<Greyull>Brigo: sshd on port 22 is the only service I have running on it.
20:49<Greyull>tpatt: I believe it's connecting full-duplex.
20:50<Greyull>Let me murder my network for half a second to verify.
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20:52<tpatt>how old is the hardware?
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20:53<Greyull>Hardware is pretty new.
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20:55<Greyull>Not sure if I'm still alive
20:55<Greyull>But, it was giving no information about duplexing
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20:59<Greyull>Rejoining just in case it wasn't recognizing the IRC connection had died.
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21:14<awal>,v nicotine murmur
21:14<judd>Package: nicotine on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.14+dfsg-1; sid: 1.2.16+dfsg-1; jessie: 1.2.16+dfsg-1; wheezy: 1.2.16+dfsg-1
21:14<awal>,v murmur
21:15<judd>Package: murmur on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.2+svn20100315.r1208-1; wheezy: 1:0.2+svn20100315.r1208-2; sid: 1:0.2+svn20100315.r1208-3; jessie: 1:0.2+svn20100315.r1208-3
21:15<somiaj>awal: you can /msg judd v packagename
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21:15<somiaj>(not sure if you were just looking at that for your info or not)
21:17<awal>somiaj: ah, ok, sorry flooding. i don't knew that judd can be messaged privately like dpkg
21:17<somiaj>awal: yea I know with dpkg you need to be in a channel he is in, else he doens't repsond, not sure if the same is true for judd or not.
21:20<awal>somiaj: I just tried and judd answer questions, even if it is not in a channel. thanks
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21:23<awal>same for dpkg , but not always :)
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21:24<awal>what difference between judd and dpkg?
21:25<tpatt>Greyull, sorry I had to disconnect, what's the latest?
21:25<Greyull>Lots of screaming.
21:25<Greyull>Not in here, but lots of screaming.
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21:26<Greyull>I swapped the switch out as well just in case
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21:27<tpatt>so the only thing left is the systemboard in the box, right?
21:27<tpatt>lol
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21:30<ary>Found it. My CPU was configured for conservative. Now i set it to performance using cpufrequtils. Got a better performance now. mtn, if you don't try, you never gonna make it! I wanted more speed. I tryed, i searched, i read, i got it. Suck it up pall.
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21:42<Greyull>tpatt: Basically. I'm going to order a new one and pray that somehow that fixes things.
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21:42<Greyull>Personally, I blame Realtek.
21:42<tpatt>that's very strange
21:42<tpatt>I wouldn't think it would be the systemboard though
21:42<tpatt>not with a usb nic
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21:44<Greyull>I wouldn't either, but maybe it could still be using the controller in the south bridge is what I figure.
21:44<Greyull>Or maybe it's the south bridge itself.
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21:51<Greyull>Anyway, thanks for all your help. I'm going to eat an entire cow in sacrifice now.
21:51<tpatt>haha no prob
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22:15<tpatt>i fixed my issue, and I'm not really sure how
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22:15<tpatt>either by putting options snd-hda-intel model=auto in alsa-base.conf (the file didn't exist
22:15<tpatt>or
22:16<tpatt>renaming /etc/asound.conf so that it wasn't used... it was used to pick my audio card/device when using alsa
22:16<tpatt>or both
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23:45<openvc1>What driver do I need to get hardware video acceleration on AMD HD 4350?
23:46<somiaj>openvc1: the radeon driver should give you 3d acceleration and all you need to do is install the firmware-linux-nonfree package
23:46<somiaj>if you want the fglrx driver you'll need to use a legacy driver as the newer one doens't support the 4000 series. Though I'd just suggest the radeon driver
23:46<openvc1>Does 3d acceleration include H.264 & VC-1?
23:47<somiaj>I'm unsure on the specs, but I would think so.
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23:48<openvc1>What I experienced is that HD playback sucks up 60% CPU (Intel Core 2 Quad). If I boot into OpenELEC, it's <5% CPU (fully hw accelerated).
23:49<openvc1>So clearly the linux driver exists. I'm using 7.8 KDE 64-bit.
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23:53<somiaj>well you can look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, but as I said you won't get much acceleration unless you install the non-free firmware, have you done that yet (it isn't abled to install from non-free by default)
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23:54<openvc1>I just remembered that you have to apt-get update after changing sources.list
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