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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-04-10

---Logopened Fri Apr 10 00:00:27 2015
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00:12<openvc1>Is there something that can be done to neutralize the tearing/flickering when a Xfce/Lxde window is dragged around?
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00:45-!-Yst is "Yst" on #nottor #tor #oftc #moocows #android-os #notnotnotnotnottor #guardianproject @#Libreboot @# @#Replicant #freedombox
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02:39<mexson>connecting iball dongle
02:39<mexson>help
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02:41<mexson>please help me
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02:53<DrX3Z>hallo
02:53<DrX3Z>was ist denn mit Tor passiert ?
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02:54<DrX3Z>kann mir einer helfen ß
02:54<DrX3Z>?
02:54<DrX3Z>germnay?
02:54<DrX3Z>germany?
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02:58<mongrol>#debian-de ?
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02:59<DrX3Z>danke
02:59<DrX3Z>thank you
02:59<DrX3Z>man
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04:22<Fils>ok so i have fucking tablet (hate tables) and i wanted to download photos that are on it. Dolphin does not see his hard drive. I connected it via usb so what i have to do?
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04:22<Fils>it's media droid mt7012 imperius tab 10 3g
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04:24<Fils>ok it worked
04:24<jm_>try with tools like gmtp
04:24<Fils>i had to tell it "IM GOING TO CONNECT"
04:24<Fils>no it was ofc retardid tablet
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05:29<foobar>Hello :)
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05:32<Vinvin>Somone can help to solve : php5-cgi : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.36-0+deb7u1) but 5.4.39-0+deb7u1 is to be installed
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05:40<jm_>install php5-cgi version 5.4.36-0+deb7u1 along with it
05:41<Vinvin>thanks jm_ :)
05:41<jm_>or rather the latest security fix 5.4.39-0+deb7u2
05:41<Vinvin>so I have to apt-get install php5-cgi5.4.39-0+deb7u
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05:41<Vinvin>?
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05:42<jm_>no, apt-get install php5-cgi php5-common
05:42<jm_>if it doesn't work provide this info:
05:42<jm_>!bat
05:42<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
05:43<Vinvin>Ok, so when I try your command I got this error
05:43<Vinvin>php5-cgi : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.36-0+deb7u1) but 5.4.39-0+deb7u1 is to be installed
05:43<Vinvin>I provide you those informations
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05:44<jm_>run apt-get update too
05:44<Vinvin>http://paste.debian.net/166063/
05:44<jm_>that one asks for a lot more information
05:45<Vinvin>policy : http://paste.debian.net/166065/
05:45<jm_>add security to sources.list
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05:45<Vinvin>apt-get update
05:45<Vinvin>http://paste.debian.net/166066/
05:45<jm_>!tell Vinvin -about security
05:47<Vinvin>sources.list : http://paste.debian.net/166067/
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05:47<Vinvin>seem's work after added security :)
05:48<jm_>yeah
05:48<Vinvin>Thaaaaanks you very much sir jm_
05:48<Vinvin>:)
05:48<Vinvin>Efficient ! :)
05:48<jm_>no problem
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05:51<Carlito>hola
05:52<Carlito>quien me arregla la compu se rompio??
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05:52<jm_>!es
05:52<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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05:56<anonymous>hi
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06:22<DarkUranium>okay guys, I don't know WTH is going on O_o
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06:22<DarkUranium>I'm trying to setup Debian w/ KDE, and I have a weird problem with wireless networking
06:23<DarkUranium>when trying to connect to a network, the system notifier says the connection has failed, while networkmanager-kde thinks it's successful (and displays a connected network after that)
06:23<DarkUranium>the system notifier is right in this case --- I don't have a connection.
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09:46<opeik>I have a headless server, I setup SSH on it, and I login via SSH keys. I then ran "ecryptfs-setup-private", that made the usual stuff. I quit the SSH session, connected again, but the private directory does NOT mount. It will only mount if I do it manually, which defaults the purpose of the setup. Any ideas how to fix this?
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10:51<F4RR3L>hello
10:51<F4RR3L>anyone here uses Xen?
10:51<Apollo>!ask
10:51<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:51<F4RR3L>I was wondering why --vifname param fails to load
10:52<F4RR3L>I've configured a PV with custom vif name
10:52<F4RR3L>but xm create name.domain.com.cfg doesn't work
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10:53<F4RR3L> Error: Device 0 (vif) could not be connected. ip link set vif13.0 name vif32.2 failed
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12:22<shiftplusone>Hello... when packaging and making changes to .ac files. Should the files generated from those files also be modified or should that happen when the package is built?
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12:23<roberth1990>is there any place where I can easily see what changes are happening to packages in debian?
12:23<SynrGyy>yes
12:24<Brigo>https://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html, roberth1990
12:24<SynrGyy>https://lists.debian.org/debian-changes/ (stable) and corresponding lists for testing, unstable
12:24<Brigo>shiftplusone, are you talking about debian package building?
12:24<SynrGyy>did i misunderstand the question?
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12:25<SynrGyy>i thought you meant in general, across debian as a whole
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12:25<roberth1990>well I mean a list that updates and shows the latest changes
12:25<roberth1990>for all the packages
12:25<shiftplusone>Brigo: yes. Say I modify a package and need to make changes to autotools files. Should I run autogen.sh/autoreconf and add those changes to the patch as well, or should autogen.sh be run only when the package is actually built?
12:25<SynrGyy>ah. i didn't misunderstand.
12:25<Brigo>i misunderstand :D
12:26<SynrGyy>roberth1990: for stable, testing or unstable?
12:26<Brigo>shiftplusone, sorry, i cannot help you, but i can point you to #debian-mentors. They will help you.
12:26<shiftplusone>Brigo: thank you. Will try there.
12:26<roberth1990>SynrGyy: stable, mainly
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12:26<SynrG>roberth1990: the list i indicated, then
12:27<roberth1990>but the debian-changes mailing list is nice though, just browsing through a mailing list is not my favourite
12:27<roberth1990>is there such mailing list for testing?
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12:28<SynrG>yes, but it's different
12:28<SynrG>it contains migration reports
12:28<SynrG>debian-testing-changes
12:29<roberth1990>so now as testing is frozen and only receives bugfixes etc, it is useless?
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12:32<SynrG>no. 'frozen' does not mean 'nothing changes'
12:32<roberth1990>SynrG: thats not what I said
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12:33<roberth1990>SynrG: migration reposts mean reports of packages being moved from unstable to testing right?
12:33<SynrG>well, 'useless'?
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12:34<roberth1990>SynrG: if the mailinglist is useless to track package updates in testing
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12:35<SynrG>i don't understand, then. it does track updates
12:35<SynrG>those updates do actually happen
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12:35<roberth1990>by updates I mean both new upstream version upgrade and versions made by debian which just includes fixes etc done by debian
12:35<SynrG>a special case of 'updates'
12:36<roberth1990>uh no, lets say the application "yourmom" is at version 1.0 in testing
12:36<roberth1990>and there is discovered a bug in it which needs to be fixed
12:36<roberth1990>and a patch is created and when the package is created the version is bumped to 1.0-2
12:38<SynrG>all i mean is, testing still accepts new versions. "new upstream version" is a special case. and of course, that's not the RT's preference during a freeze (Though it is not without precedents for them to be accepted)
12:38<roberth1990>yes ofc
12:38<roberth1990>but most packages just receives the treatment I just described
12:38<SynrG>so my quibble was with 'useless'. it's every bit as useful as not during freeze
12:39<SynrG>it's just that updates are slowed
12:39<roberth1990>and I wonder if there is a list where both of these changes are coverede for testing
12:39<SynrG>why would this list miss any changes that go into testing?
12:39<roberth1990>SynrG: useless was meant for the mailinglist
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12:40<roberth1990>[18:28] <SynrG> it contains migration reports
12:40<SynrG>still not getting it. the list covers changes that migrate into testing.
12:40<roberth1990>migrated from where?
12:40<SynrG>unstable, of course
12:40<roberth1990>yes but most doesnt when testing is frozen
12:40<SynrG>if it doesn't migrate into testing, there's nothing to report!
12:41<SynrG>so i don't understand:
12:41<SynrG><roberth1990> and I wonder if there is a list where both of these changes are coverede for testing
12:41<roberth1990>yes, that was my question
12:41<roberth1990>is there a list which covers both
12:41<SynrG>it doesn't make sense
12:41<SynrG>this *is* the list that covers both
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12:42<roberth1990>well that was my question in the first place, if it covered both kinds of changes yes
12:42<roberth1990>what list is it exactly?
12:43<SynrG>you mean you didn't look when i told you?
12:43<SynrG>ah. that could explain why you're confused
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12:43<SynrG><SynrG> debian-testing-changes
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12:43<SynrG>i gave you the previous link for debian-changes. thought you might've browsed to the other list from there. if not, here's the direct link:
12:44<SynrG>https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing-changes/
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12:44<roberth1990>SynrG: I am confused since you said "[18:28] <SynrG> it contains migration reports" to me that meant that it is the only thing the mailinglist tracks
12:44<SynrG>maybe you don't understand what a migration is then?
12:44<roberth1990>SynrG: wasnt quite sure
12:45<SynrG>so look at them. i think it makes it all clear :)
12:46<roberth1990>yeah I see that
12:46<SynrG>debian-changes lists proposed stable changes, package-by-package. debian-testing-changes lists migration reports instead.
12:46<roberth1990>now
12:46<SynrG>k
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13:30<sistemas>hi everyone, i wake up this morning restart samba service and its broken, params.c:Parameter() - Invalid parameter name in config. file.
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13:30<sistemas>i already comment the whole config file and nothing, any ideas?
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13:31<blast007>sistemas: what on your system changed?
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13:37<sistemas>i just add a permission to an user
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13:38<sistemas>i remove the permission and the problem is the same
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13:41<blast007>sistemas: I may not be reading the code right, but that error may be triggered when a line begins with an equals sign (as in, missing the parameter name)
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14:05<mjohnste>can anyone point me in the right direction on how to setup multiple monitors?
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14:06<jstewart>mjohnste: how many are you looking to set up, and what issues are you running into?
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14:07<mjohnste>jstewart: I've got two. I've got the latest version of the intel HD 4x driver
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14:09<jstewart>What problems do you run into when you hook up both monitors?
14:09<mjohnste>jstewart: I just get mirroring right now.
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14:11<jstewart>You should be able to modify that with your DE's display manager, if you're running something like Gnome.
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14:13<jstewart>You can also use xrandr to configure them if you don't have that option.
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14:13<mjohnste>jstewart: xrandr -q only gives screen 0
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14:14<mjohnste>jstewart: and an error of "failed to get size of gamma for output default"
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14:17<jstewart>Hmm. Have you confirmed that you get the same output if you have a single display connected, in each one.
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14:18<mjohnste>jstewart: yea, did multiple reboots, with each connected. Its...odd
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14:18<mjohnste>jstewart: one via VGA other with displayport->hdmi
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14:21<jstewart>Mind if I ask what you're hooking this up to? Is it a laptop with multiple ports, or a desktop board with two outputs?
14:22<mjohnste>jstewart: desktop, multiple outputs
14:22<jstewart>Do you know what board it's using?
14:22<mjohnste>jstewart: in fact, it's an HP ProDesk 600 G1, on board
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14:24<ThomasKeller>hello, I am using Gajim in Wheezy
14:24<ThomasKeller>Gajim is written in Python, and the .py and .pyc files are in /usr/share/gajim/src/
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14:25<ThomasKeller>when I run gajim as user, I see following debug messages
14:25<ThomasKeller>denied create of /usr/share/gajim/src/foo.pyo
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14:26<jstewart>mjohnste: it looks like that board will only support multiple monitors via a display port splitter. That might explain why you're only getting one output device, those outputs are only mirrored.
14:26<ThomasKeller>looks like gajim is trying to create the .pyo files in /usr
14:26<jstewart>http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/pdfs/HP_ProDesk_600_G1_Desktop_Mini_Business_PC.pdf - footnotes on that document seem to indicate such, buried in the third footnote on page 3.
14:26<ThomasKeller>can somebody please comment on this ?
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14:27<ThomasKeller>is this correct behaviour ?
14:27<mjohnste>jstewart: hmm, wrong version. It's not the mini.
14:28<ThomasKeller>I suspect this is more a python issue than gajim
14:28<mjohnste>jstewart: it's the small form factor one
14:28<mjohnste>jstewart: with intel HD Graphics 4600
14:29<mjohnste>http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=4AA4-7311ENUC
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14:30<jstewart>mjohnste: I'm not finding any doocuments on that model specifically mentioning the requirement for the adaptor cables, but it seems like they've done that with all of the discreet graphics options.
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14:32<jstewart>I suspect that your system might have a similar configuration, but finding direct evidence of that on HP's site might be quite a chore.
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15:24<jonas>heyhey<.
15:25<jonas>trying to get opengl running on PPC (ibook g4)
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15:25<Guest1693>jessie and lxde running
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15:25<Guest1693>Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
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15:26<Guest1693>i re-installed mesa-gl1 stuff and reconfigured xorg
15:26<Guest1693>(radeon is in xorg.conf)
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15:27<Guest1693>i had wheezy and did a dist upgrade then :)
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15:40<Guest1693>reboot :)
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17:13<averythomas>I need to upload files to my backup directory but when I make a .zip in my home directory it's too big, any ideas?
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17:13<unknownsquad>google drive
17:14<averythomas>for 500gbs?
17:14<averythomas>lol
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17:14<unknownsquad>try making a regular file and then uploading it
17:14<unknownsquad>instead of a zip
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17:15*squid-oftc brb
17:16<averythomas>I was also wondering how to give each user on my system a differernt user quota
17:16<averythomas>*disk
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17:17<unknownsquad>u have to partion some of ur hdd drive to other one
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17:17<unknownsquad>that way u seprate Gb for each user to use
17:17<unknownsquad>please follow on twiiter for tech issue
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17:18<Apollo>that's the most stupid idea Ive ever heard
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17:20<unknownsquad>shut up for u get hack
17:21<unknownsquad>#payload @ Apollo
17:21<unknownsquad>u could of step in and help him
17:21<unknownsquad>please visit http://ddosking42.wix.com/unknowntech
17:22<unknownsquad>for service like botnet,facebook brute force, $3 DDoS Attack
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17:22<unknownsquad>website not finishe yet enjoyed
17:23<averythomas>find a real way to make money?
17:23<unknownsquad>10min DDoS for $3 via paypal @ legendaryddos@gmail.com
17:23<Apollo>!ops unknownsquad troll/spam
17:23<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: apollo complains about: unknownsquad troll/spam
17:23<unknownsquad>i can i take down this whole server and demand some money lol
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17:24<Apollo>averythomas: http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Debian_7.0&p=quota
17:24<averythomas>ty
17:24<averythomas>unknownsquad told me to use google drive I was like WUT
17:24<musca>averythomas: what is the destination of your zip file?
17:24<averythomas>FTP server
17:24<averythomas>Well the zip ends up in the home directory
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17:26<musca>averythomas: do you have more space in your /tmp?
17:27<averythomas>only 20gbs
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17:31<musca>perhaps you shouldn't upload the same stuff again and again. A differential or incremental strategy might help.
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20:36<awal>Sorry for my very newbie question. My question is not related with disk space, I have 450 gb but a bit "technical". I know what apt-get clean & autoclean does but I wonder if running clean and autoclean frequently is a good idea. I mean the pros & cons
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20:38<ryouma>awal: i run clean before every upgrade
20:38<ryouma>(and keep cache out of backups)
20:40<awal>ryouma: me I run it after every upgrade:) What I know is if the cache is cleaned there is no backups and itsn't helpful for downgrade packs easly
20:41<ryouma>yeah i don't know what it is good for, but i keep it around for one cycle just in case. you can always download again, right? afaik it is hte recent version, not hte older version. so not much point?
20:44<awal>yeah, i can download again always. I just noticied that if the cache is cleaned apt/aptitude need more time, a few seconds more, for connect to debian servers
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20:53<Vikinger>I just changed CPU from intel to AMD, but i kept the HDD with Debian, to i need to reinstall or will it work ?
20:56<awal>Vikinger: try running grep ^core /proc/cpuinfo
20:56<Vikinger>i did
20:56<awal>the output?
20:57<Vikinger>is what it should be
20:57<Vikinger>with the new CPU
20:58<Vikinger>awal the system is running good, but when i tried to use Virtualbox, the computer simply rebooted
20:59<roberth1990>is cpufreq the only tool that can show what frequency my cpu is using?
21:01<awal>Vikinger: you machine rebooted to your debian system after trying to run virtualbox?
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21:03<Vikinger>awal i open virtualbox and then runned one of machines i have there, then after 2 seconds, complete black screen, and the PC reboots normally into debian yes.
21:03<Chanku>So the computer restarts?
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21:04<awal>if it rebooted finely and all work fine, your debian recognized your new hardware so. so maybe your issue is vbox related
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21:04<awal>it's just an opinion. i never experienced what you did
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21:05<Vikinger>ok
21:05<Vikinger>but awal, does that mean vbox doesnt like AMD CPUs ?
21:06<awal>I dont really know if virtualbox install different module or something else depending if your machine have intel or amd. probably yes
21:07<Vikinger>ic
21:07<Vikinger>so if i do aptitude reinstall virtualbox, should that take care of that ?
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21:11<Vikinger>awal
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21:16<awal>Vikinger: sorry, no idea. As I said I don't know if virtualbox install's differently depending if the hardware is intel or amd.
21:16<Vikinger>ok thank you
21:17<Texou>hi
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21:18<Texou>for some reasons, in /proc/asound/cards, the default sound card is HDMI. How can I set manually the default card?
21:18<awal>I can't tell you if aptitude reinstall / apt-get --reinstall install will "take care of that" if I don't know what I said before, Vikinger
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21:19<awal>Vikinger: maybe there is a virtualboc channel in oftc or freenode
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21:22<awal>Is there a way for find a special "thing" when checking big man pages like xterm one without having to scroll down /up ?
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21:29<awal>I mean search X word , number... inside man pages
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21:36<somiaj>awal: hit '/' then type what you want to search for.
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21:36<somiaj>awal: less and other programs have this same key binding
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21:39<lukem>Can anyone help me with some permissions issues I am having?
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21:41<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
21:43<lukem>I'm running Deluge bittorrent client via my raspberry pi which is running raspbian. No matter what I do I keep having an issue with my permissions. I tried changing them all to 7777 but that seems to have only made matters worse.
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21:46<svid>I changed my apt/sources.list file "wheezy" entries to "testing" it upgraded some packages but when I rebooted I'm still on the same old kernel(3.2.0-4-amd64) is something funny going on?
21:46<somiaj>lukem: we don't support rasbian here. They have a support channel on irc.freenode.net and there is ##linux on that network for general linux help.
21:46<somiaj>!raspbian
21:46<dpkg>Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/
21:46<roberth1990>lukem: probably not very helpful but dont use deluge
21:47<somiaj>svid: two things. 1) use "jessie" over testing, when jessie is released, testing poitns to the new testing which is very unstable durning the first few weeks.
21:47<lukem>roberth1990: what would you suggest? I need a bittorrent client that filters / blocks ip addresses
21:47<roberth1990>lukem: hmmm
21:47<somiaj>svid: second, you most likely didn't have the meta kernel package installed, so it didn't pull in a newerkiernel. 'apt-get install linux-image-amd64' should give you the current linux kernel.
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21:48<svid>ah, yeah I never understood that option during the install
21:48<svid>thanks somiaj
21:48<roberth1990>lukem: transmission has a blocklist which I think you can edit yourself
21:48<somiaj>svid: the meta package just points at the current kernel image, so it will pull it in when it upgrades. Normal kernel packages dont upgrade except for security upgrades.
21:48<roberth1990>lukem: you can run it as daemon and control it remotely from another computer if you want
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21:49<somiaj>svid: yea, installers are better about it now. But it is always better to use codenames in your sources.list and not links (oldstable, stable, testing, unstable are links, though unstable will always point at sid)
21:49<lukem>roberth1990: Okay thank you. I will look into setting up Transmission but I think I messed up my permissions. Will keep looking to get those fixed.
21:50<lukem>somiaj: While I run raspbian my issue is a general linux issue. Permissions issue.
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21:51<somiaj>lukem: and we don't support general permissions issues, hence why I pointed you at ##linux on freenode.
21:51<lukem>somiaj: okay thanks
21:51<somiaj>i.e. due to both social and techencial reasons we choose to only support debian, and derivatives are considered off topic (even if the topics are related)
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21:59<awal>How to make a specific keyboard layout persistent in xvkbd? Default is english but I use spanish. changing to spanish works but keyboard layout is set to english every time I start xvkbd
21:59<somiaj>don't know the software, but most things should ahve a config or rc file, I would start to look there.
21:59<awal>I don't know how to make xvkbd use the default keyboard layout (spanish) that my debian uses
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22:04<somiaj>seems you can customize xvkbd with .Xdefaults, I can't find teh exact one, but seems you can set defaults with this
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22:05<somiaj>but looks like xvkbd.customization: -german is the example I found in the man page, shoudl be able to use it for any key file you have.
22:08<awal>somiaj: I'm a bit lost, sorry. in the .Xdefaults file in /home I just add a line ---> xvkbd.customization: -spanish ?
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22:09<somiaj>I think so, then run 'xrdb -m ~/.Xdefaults' (this will merge the new defaults into the database)
22:09<somiaj>again I got this from reading though the man page.
22:10<somiaj>it talks about make sure you have the correct key file when you use the -spanish, but it sounds like it is provided.
22:10<awal>somiaj: ok, let me try
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22:12<awal>somiaj: ?
22:13<somiaj>it didn't work?
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22:14<awal>somiaj: you are genius. It worked just like a charm. Thank you very much!
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22:14<awal>now my xvkbd keyboard layout is alwas in spanish :) Thanks!
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22:19<somiaj>awal: I just found and read the man page, though I have used .Xdefaults for various applications. I configure my xterm there too.
22:19<somiaj>and xosview
22:21<awal>somiaj: my problem with man pages sometimes is that almost all of them are in english, and my english is bad
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22:21<awal>I always seen .Xdefaults in /home but never knew why is there. today I understand what is does :) thanks
22:23<awal>xosview is an "unknown" utility but it's very interesting. I use it too
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22:25<somiaj>I run multiple instances of it and get fairly good monintors in my panel.
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22:54<Lux>hi guys i have a intel i7 4770k processor and nvidia gtx 660 zotak video, which debian version should I use?
22:55<Lux>desktop pc course
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22:56<somiaj>Lux: via backports you can get everyting to work in wheezy, but it may require more work.
22:56<somiaj>jessie is 'almost stable', down to less than 100 rc bugs before the release. If you don't mind the no security support (which will start once it becomes stable) I would suggest just installing jessie
22:57<somiaj>though for jessie support you should use #debian-next (though as I said it is getting close to being stable, some are hoping within the month)
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22:57<roberth1990>Lux: testing
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23:00<Lux>thanks
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23:02<Lux>It is recommended amd64 for intel i7 processor?
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23:03<Lux>@somiaj
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23:12<somiaj>Lux: correct, amd64 is the code name for x86_64 which is both intel and amd processors
23:12<somiaj>!why amd64
23:12<dpkg>The Debian architecture that runs on 64-bit processors from AMD and Intel is called "amd64" because the architecture was first developed by AMD. AMD64 is variously known as x86-64, x64, IA-32e, EM64T and Intel 64 (most of which are the Intel marketing people changing their mind). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/x86-64
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23:15<Lux>:D
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23:16<awal>Lux: your laptop should support both amd64 and i386. Probably you wont amd64. i386 with pae kernel is a good choice too. also with debian you can have multiarch . The rendering of your system will be a bit faster with amd64, PROBABLY
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23:19<sferriol>hi
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23:20<Lux>hi @sferriol make your ask
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23:40<jaggz>samba appears to default to using the local user password instead of an smbpasswd file...
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23:40<jaggz>and it doesn't come with some convenient commented-out options in smb.conf to readily change that
23:40<somiaj>jaggz: correct, but that can of course be changed. Default is also to allow users access to their $HOME
23:41<somiaj>jaggz: would it be easy to add such an option?
23:41<jaggz>I'm not sure yet. It appears it would be...
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23:42<somiaj>jaggz: well you can file a wishlist bug. Having a patch would help, but if it is something you can easily describe.
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23:46<jaggz>somiaj, thanks :)
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