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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-05-04

---Logopened Mon May 04 00:00:00 2015
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03:30<zer0rest>how can I see all the users that are in a group?
03:30-!-Fin [~chatzilla@108-250-226-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:31<jm_>getent group foo
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03:35<zer0rest>jm_, I keep geting told Unknown database, tried with various groups
03:36<jm_>zer0rest: what exactly did you type?
03:36<zer0rest>jm_, nvm works now lol
03:36<zer0rest>jm_, was trying getent <foo> instead of getent group <foo>
03:37<zer0rest>missread what you said
03:37<jm_>yeah group is needed (other databases are passwd hosts etc.)
03:37<zer0rest>yea, I read the /etc/nsswitch.conf and it made sense, thank you
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03:46<knugen>It seems like the "tzdata" package never gets updated with unattended-upgrades? This one package i always have to update manually. Why?
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05:51<z3r0>hi all
05:52<svetlana>hi
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05:53<z3r0>booooooooooom
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05:59<z3r0>new 0day
06:01<z3r0>hey how are you all
06:01<z3r0>??
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06:02<petn-randall>!ot
06:02<dpkg>#debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day.
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06:16<cmandog>Hey all, having an issue during install. "No disk drive was detected..." Running lspci -knn shows the Dell PERC5 is using kernel driver megaraid_sas. Running cat /proc/partitions shows the vd is detected on /dev/sdb. Any ideas?
06:17<jm_>what is "vd"?
06:17<cmandog>Sorry, Virtual Disk
06:18<jm_>where have you checked /proc/partitions?
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06:19<cmandog>In the debug shell.
06:19<ib>hi how can i manage user accounts in debian 8 jessie xfce ?
06:19<jm_>what is the exact PCI ID?
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06:20<cmandog>1025:1f03
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06:20<cmandog>*1028:1f03
06:21<jm_>I don't see that ID being claimed by the megaraid_sas module
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06:22<ib>i find no user accounts management icon inside xfce setting manager window
06:22<jm_>cmandog: debian hcl page does not find a driver either
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06:23<jm_>but if you say sdb is the device ...
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06:29<cmandog>That's what it looks like.
06:30<jm_>would be odd that installer can't use it then
06:30<cmandog>cat /proc/partitions gives: http://pastebin.com/nQvrDQtE
06:31<jm_>is that from tty2 when running the installer?
06:32<cmandog>Correct.
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06:35<jm_>I only used old megaraid driver with some very old dell servers (P2/P3 time) so not really familiar, back then I simply managed it all in its BIOS and Linux saw the drive just fine
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06:39<jm_>having said that, check if installer says anything on tty3/4 or try using its expert mode
06:40<jm_>also not sure if firmware is required for this - is it?
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07:52<cmandog>It's crazy, I can partition the drive and everything, but install still fails. Also, that previous pci was a subsystem - sorry - the correct one is 1028:0015
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07:52<jm_>ahh makes sense, if nothing else works you can use debootstrap to install it
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07:53<Brigo>pciid 1028:0015
07:54<Brigo>,pciid 1028:0015
07:54<judd>[1028:0015] is 'PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 5' from 'Dell' with kernel module 'megaraid_sas' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1028:0015 http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins
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07:54<jm_>and you are using jessie installer?
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07:54<cmandog>Yep, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso
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07:55<cmandog>debootstrap is chugging along though.
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08:04<alex>Hello! What are better lightDM or SLiM?
08:05<Brigo>alex, i would say lightdm, but i have never used slim.
08:06<jm_>both seem to work ok (I use lightdm, my brother uses slim)
08:07<alex>Sanks
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08:27<azzenovic>hi I installed debian 8 on my laptop and everything works like a charm . my only problem is that upon booting before starting services i get failed to load / save switch etc try systemctl etc I've read it's related to wifi however the wifi is ok . it's just that failed msg kinda scares me
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08:44<volter>As far as I understand, Suite is an optional key in the distributions file of an apt repo? https://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat#Suite
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08:50<Brigo>azzenovic, failed to load what? can you be more specific?
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09:43<finetundra>hey folks, how would you open a 7zip archive? Xarchiver isn't liking it
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09:44<themill>!7zip
09:44<dpkg>p7zip is a Unix port of the 7-Zip file archiver, supporting the <7z> compressed archive file format. It does not store the owner/group of the file (ref. p7zip-full README). Use 7za (p7zip-full package) to extract password-protected archives. http://p7zip.sf.net/
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10:08<franko__>Hey guys and girls; After upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie I have a problem with booting. When choosing Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 my system hangs on “piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.3: Host SMBus controller not enabled!”. Blacklisting piix4-smbus haven’t helped. Have you got any idea what to do next? Everything works great on 3.2.0-4-amd64. I don’t know if it matters but under the hood I use esxi 5.5.
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10:09<AnAnt>Hello, I have been running testing for a few months, now I want my laptop to track jessie (& its updates/backports), what should I do ? is there something to change other than /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/90default-release?
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10:10<Brigo>franko__, did you still have that message?
10:10<AnAnt>and should I disable the testing,unstable,experimental lines in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
10:11<Brigo>AnAnt, did you updagrade package recently?
10:11<AnAnt>Brigo: last upgrade was on 1st of May maybe
10:11<Brigo>then you have already installed package from stretch.
10:12<franko__>@Brigo: after blacklisting piix4-smbus my system still hangs during boot
10:12<AnAnt>Brigo: ok, how do I stop further updates from stretch ?
10:12<Brigo>franko__, i am asking about the message.
10:12<Brigo>AnAnt, chaging testing to stable or jessie. and comment sid, unstable and experimetal deb lines.
10:13<franko__>now it hangs after /dev/sda1: clean ….
10:14<Brigo>franko__, how many time have you waited?
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10:14<Brigo>franko__, it could be a different problem.
10:14<franko__>maybe 30 - 40 seconds
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10:15<Brigo>sometimes if there are problem it could hand for 2 minutes or more.
10:15<AnAnt>Brigo: ok, I need to understand why I have to disable unstable & experimental lines ? I had them when I was running testing, and all the updates I got were from testing (unless I manually select a version from unstable/experimental) ?
10:15<blast007>AnAnt: also, downgrading is not supported, so ideally you'd reinstall jessie from scratch
10:16<Brigo>AnAnt, you can let them stay, but it could be risky. I think stable is the prefered branch by default.
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10:25<civil>john /#debian-next
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10:29<AnAnt>thanks
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10:32<franko__>@Brigo my booting process hangs permanently
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10:32<Brigo>franko__, then try to boot in rescue mode, from the boot menu.
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10:51<mejo>is it possible to load the debian installer directly from a running debian system (e.g. through grub) without the need of a physical installation media?
10:51<abrotman>dpkg: tell mejo about deboostrap
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10:51<abrotman>dpkg: tell mejo about debootstrap
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10:51<mejo>I'd like to install a fresh Jessie amd64 installation on a remote server that runs Wheezy i386 at the moment.
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10:52<mejo>abrotman: ok, I thought about booting into the installation media. I know about debootstrap. But that involves fiddling around with partitions. In the end I'd like to have everything on one big partition as rootfs.
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10:55<mejo>there's no need for me to keep the old system. I want to start over. Only reason I ask is that I don't have physical access to the system (I do have remote console), and connecting an installation media costs money :(
10:56<abrotman>you can use LVM and resize later
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11:01<mejo>abrotman: that would be an option. but it makes the whole setup more complex.
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11:02<mejo>abrotman: thanks anyway. I'll look into the KVM virtual media feature. Maybe I can make something up with that.
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11:05<nihad_dk>hello everyone. I’ve got problem with my newly upgraded jessie VPS server. :( I did upgrade from 7 to 8 on my server, and now no services are working properly… hopefully there is a way to recover from this… is there anyone that can help me in recovering? 😊
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11:08<Maulkin>nihad_dk: We can try and help, but do you have any more details?
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11:09<murix>hi, debian 8 is not working in geoge lx800. Is geode support dropped?
11:09<nihad_dk>Maulkin: yes. I didn’t want to spam on my inital post. 😊 that’s why I asked for help first. Looking at the processes it seems to work as intented, but no connections are accepted. not even SSH.
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11:10<Maulkin>nihad_dk: do you have console access to the box in question?
11:10<murix>anyone has problems with geode lx800 and debian 8?
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11:11<nihad_dk>Maulkin: My VPS is running in OpenVZ container and I have access to PowerPanel, but seems to have problems extracting any logs. I do have access to file manager will try to access logs from there and see if I can get some output from there.
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11:11<murix>debian 8 has dropped i486 kernel?
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11:14<themill>murix: there's linux-image-586 instead (debian hasn't actually worked on an i486 for a long time)
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11:14<nihad_dk>Maulkin: sorry, I am doing back-up at the moment, and it has paused access to file system. will get back to you once access to FS is restored.
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11:17<murix>themill: i try linux-586 from current debian-8.0.0-live, but result is blank screen
11:17<themill>blank screen doesn't sound like it has much to do with 486 vs 586
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11:19<murix>tremill: debian 7.8 with 486 kernel lstill working perfect in geode lx800
11:19<murix>tremill: my machine is a urmet daruma mt1000lx with geode lx800
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11:21<adm001mi>Hey all, got issue with java... yesterday I was able to run a jar file but today it's lost... I can locate java and it displays the correct version... but it won't run the jar-files anymore...
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11:26<adm001mi>reinstalling doesn't change a thing
11:27<petn-randall>adm001mi: What is the error message you get?
11:27<adm001mi>none... that's the problem...
11:28<nihad_dk>Maulkin: ok so backup is done. have access to log files. what file(s) should i look at? 😊
11:28<adm001mi>the default program has been replaced by xarchiver and I can't find the jdk in the applications list...
11:28<petn-randall>adm001mi: How are you running java?
11:28<adm001mi>I installed openjdk-7-jdk
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11:28<petn-randall>adm001mi: Oh, select the option where you can add it by hand, then just navigate to /usr/bin/java/
11:28<adm001mi>running it by clicking on the jar-file
11:28<petn-randall>adm001mi: Oh, select the option where you can add it by hand, then just navigate to /usr/bin/java.
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11:31<adm001mi>no avail...
11:31<Maulkin>nihad_dk: Well, ideally you need console access.
11:32<nihad_dk>Maulkin: i wish i had access to that… it says that VNC server is not running. “ Container Console is unavailable.”
11:32<blast007>nihad_dk: you may want to see if your host supports Debian Jessie. OpenVZ VMs share the host's kernel, so it might not be new enough for Jessie.
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11:33<Maulkin>nihad_dk: See what blast007 said :)
11:33<Maulkin>(Obviously knows more about openvz than me...)
11:33<blast007>I only know enough to know to avoid it ;)
11:33<Maulkin>heh
11:34<blast007>(also lets hosts oversell resources)
11:34<nihad_dk>blast007: how do I do that? ..i mean check if it supports kernel...
11:34<blast007>by asking your hosting provier
11:34<blast007>provider*
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11:37<nihad_dk>blast007: i guess i will have to do that. or restore my container, to what ever version it is set up to do… hopefully not debian 5.0 :D
11:37<blast007>nihad_dk: Personally, I'd recommend switching to a host that uses Linux KVM for virtualization instead of OpenVZ. Then you have control over your kernel and the listed amount of RAM is actually dedicated to your instance.
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11:38<aaguillon>Hi, everyone out there... Does anybody here can help me with a channel to request info abou Gnome+Debian?
11:38<aaguillon>Thanks...
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11:39<SamB_laptop>!gnome
11:39<dpkg>GNOME is a Desktop Environment ("DE", so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) based on GTK+. To get or delete GNOME, ask me about <install gnome> or <remove gnome> respectively. See also <gnome status>. https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome http://www.gnome.org/ #debian-gnome on irc.debian.org. GNOME-related IRC channels: https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/IRC
11:39<blast007>aaguillon: here would be fine to start off with
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11:39<SamB_laptop>not sure if #debian-gnome is meant mostly for developers or not
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11:40<abrotman>aaguillon: what kind of info?
11:40<abrotman>SamB_laptop: might make more sense to know what he's trying to ask first?
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11:41<aaguillon>Well... Is the Óh no!...'etc message. Sometimes called Failing whale or whatever...
11:41<SamB_laptop>abrotman: yeah, yeah, I was gonna ask him that but then I was wondering what the bot had on "gnome" anyway
11:41<aaguillon>Iǘe been working on it for couples of day and ZERO... I almost give up...
11:41<petn-randall>Err, can you elaborate, aaguillon?
11:41<abrotman>SamB_laptop: feel free to msg the bot ...
11:42<aaguillon>Sorry
11:42<abrotman>keeps from flooding the channel and you can learn in private
11:42<SamB_laptop>abrotman: yeah, I was just thinking how what I was saying seemed to imply I should have messaged the bot ...
11:42<abrotman>aaguillon: Can you give us some clearer details?
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11:43<aaguillon>Gdm3 is not working...
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11:43<aaguillon>So i change to lightdm
11:44<aaguillon>but when Gnome is choosen, this message is displayed: "Oh no! Something has gone wrong." and "A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again."
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11:44<nihad_dk>blast007: it’s that i need all those resources but i can see your point. my site running mostly wordpress installation on 4 domains and doing some spam sorting. do you have any recommendations of VPS hosts with KVM? in europe that is.. :D
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11:45<aaguillon>I have been googling a lot but none...
11:45<blast007>nihad_dk: digitalocean uses KVM
11:45<petn-randall>aaguillon: If one login manager is not working, there's a good chance that another one won't work either. It's better to look into the problem than to randomly change things on the system in hopes that either of them might fix it. :)
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11:48<aaguillon>Good point petn-randall. Actually, i'm using lightdm+xfce and everything works fine.
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11:48<aaguillon>But I believe I can use gnome with Debian 8...
11:48<nihad_dk>blast007: will give it a look, and see how it compares pricewise with my current. and if it worth the hassle… thanks. Maulkin thank you for your time too.
11:49<blast007>aaguillon: do you know what kind of graphics card/chip you have?
11:50<aaguillon>Yes: Nvidia 650 is my card
11:50<petn-randall>aaguillon: Look into /var/log/Xorg.log and ~/.xsession-errors, there might be some hints.
11:51<blast007>okay, then nevermind. I knew that AMD's proprietary drivers didn't work with Gnome, so I was curious if it was that.
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11:59<aaguillon>Nvidia is not the problem. Is running fine with Lightdm-Xfce
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11:59<aaguillon>In fact I wrote this with my pc on Xfce...
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12:03<StephenLynx>hey ,I have a doubt. does debian as a whole has a fund? does any of its funding goes to debian women?
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12:04<Brigo>StephenLynx, i think nobody in debian gets money from debian proyect.
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12:04<StephenLynx>so it isn't like gnome?
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12:05<StephenLynx>that had their monthly expenses and stuff?
12:05<Brigo>i don't know how gnome works
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12:05<Maulkin>More precicely, no one in Debian is paid by the project. We do arrange work meetings and sprints etc, and we sponsor travel for people to attend those.
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12:06<Maulkin>Generally, with conferences, each conference organiser tries to get external sponsorship for that conference. Debian women is just like any other group in that regard.
12:07<StephenLynx>so it doesn't have expenses just for exist, like gnome outreach was?
12:07<StephenLynx>for existing*
12:08<petn-randall>StephenLynx: I'm not sure if I'm understanding your question right. Is your question "Is there a defined budget for Debian Women?"
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12:08<StephenLynx>yes.
12:08<Maulkin>In that case, no.
12:08<StephenLynx>kthnxbai
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12:08<Maulkin>Why?
12:09<Maulkin>hrm...
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12:11<boodie>Hi, I have just completed the upgrade ... everything seems to have worked fine, except for X (not there)
12:12<boodie>In fact it was expected, as the nvidia drivers were amongs the packages purged
12:12<boodie>any hints, are the noveau packages any good?
12:13<petn-randall>boodie: yes
12:14<boodie>So I shouldn't bother with the proprietary stuff ...
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12:16<petn-randall>boodie: Depends. New GPUs aren't supported by nouveau yet.
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12:17<boodie>Nah, I have an old crappy GPU
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12:18<petn-randall>boodie: Then probably nouveau is your only option, as the nvidia drivers always drop older cards in the release.
12:19<boodie>Hmmm - ok. Just install it via aptitude, I suppose
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12:20<ajmartos>ola
12:20<boodie>Can anybody suggest me how to install the nouveau drivers?
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12:21<petn-randall>boodie: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
12:21<towo_nb>they normaly come preinstalled
12:22<boodie>ok, but startx doesn't work
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12:22<towo_nb>then provide /var/log/Xorg.0.log
12:22<petn-randall>boodie: Use a login manager instead.
12:23<towo_nb>that would not help, if x can not start
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12:23<petn-randall>towo_nb: It would at least pull in the dependencies needed to start X. :)
12:23<adm001mi>hey all still having issues with my java...
12:23<simeon>Is it possible to install new Fontforge (http://fontforge.github.io/en-US/) on Debian 8, and how??
12:24<adm001mi>I can no longer run jar-files
12:24<adm001mi>can't even make executable...
12:24<towo_nb>petn-randall, sure, but boodie has not shown any error-message he get
12:24<boodie>Before upgrading I had gdm3, but I guess this has gone, too
12:24<adm001mi>gdm3 runs fine here with Jessie...
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12:25<simeon>Is it possible to install new Fontforge (http://fontforge.github.io/en-US/) on Debian 8, and how??
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12:25<adm001mi>simeon please refrain from reposting... people will answer when they want to...
12:26<simeon>sorry
12:26<adm001mi>simeon fontforge is jessie packages...
12:26<boodie>OK, since I have no mouse working and I am switching between terminals, how can I post the output of 'startx'?
12:27<simeon>yes, but old version
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12:27<simeon>from 2012, i need the latest one
12:27<petn-randall>!tell boodie -about pastebinit
12:27<blast007>simeon: then you'd have to compile it yourself
12:28<towo_nb>boodie, you could install pastebinit and then do cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
12:28<blast007>simeon: they provide instructions for building a Debian package. See "Building a Debian package" at http://fontforge.github.io/en-US/downloads/source/
12:29<adm001mi>blast007 thx for beating me to it ;-) no hard feelings
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12:30<simeon>ok great, thank you people!
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12:32<boodie>http://paste.debian.net/171332
12:33<boodie>In fact, the same happened the last time, when upgrading to wheezy ... but I completely forgot how to remediate
12:34<towo_nb>boodie, remoove all contengt in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
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12:36<towo_nb>boodie, to be sure, do apt-get purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/nvidia/{ print $2 }')
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12:41<boodie>towo_nb: Ok, done, it still desn't work
12:42<boodie>ops. "doesn't"
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12:42<towo_nb>paste the x-log
12:43<boodie>http://paste.debian.net/171338
12:44<towo_nb>boodie, have you rebootet?
12:44<boodie>nope
12:44<towo_nb>do it
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12:44<boodie>ok
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12:49<boodie>towo_nb: Hi, rebooted - no X yet
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12:51<viccuad__>guys, do you get "you should update flash player" on icedove?
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12:53<towo`>boodie, lsmod | grep nouveau
12:53<towo`>boodie, and again, paste you x-log
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12:56<viccuad__>oh, I meant iceweasel. Has someone encountered "this plugin is outdated and should be updated(flashplayer plugin)" on iceweasel? thanks in advance
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12:57<boodie>Hi: I'm in trouble with X, after upgrading to Ok, thanks. "lsmod | grep nouveau" = nothing. http://paste.debian.net/171340
12:57<towo`>viccuad__, update-flashplugin-nonfree -iv
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12:58<towo`>boodie, have you purged all nvidia-packages?
12:58<boodie>All
12:58<boodie>As far as I know
12:58<towo`>boodie, check, if there exit any blacklist nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf
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12:58<towo`>boodie, [18:36:24] <towo_nb> boodie, to be sure, do apt-get purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/nvidia/{ print $2 }')
12:58<adm001mi>sometimes it's better to do a clean install in such cases
12:59<towo`>boodie, you have done that?
12:59<boodie>yes
12:59<towo`>boodie, look for a blacklist nouveau
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12:59<viccuad__>towo`: thanks! did you know that from memory? I'm curious if it's documented or if it should be
12:59<towo`>that's a standard command
13:00<towo`>for people who want to use flash
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13:01<boodie>hi, the file /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf does not exist
13:01<towo`>use youur brain
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13:02<towo`>as long as the nouveau kernel-module is not loaded, x will never start
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13:05<boodie>indeed. There is a file called /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-common.conf
13:05<towo`>remove it
13:06<valdyn>better to purge the package
13:07<towo`>normaly that should done by apt-get purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/nvidia/{ print $2 }')
13:07<towo`>no clue, why it is still there
13:08<valdyn>towo`: your script does not work in general
13:08<towo`>i have used it many times
13:08<gbit>I'm having a problem when trying to set a domain as permissive on selinux. When I run 'semanage permissive -a httpd_t' it answear '/usr/sbin/semanage: No such file or directory'. I check and the file is there, anyone has a clue of how to solve this?
13:08<valdyn>towo`: yea, it works in many cases, but not in general
13:09<towo`>why should it not work?
13:10<valdyn>towo`: my systems dont have an example, so uh, cant show you, but the package state can be *another* token for awk, that makes the package name token number 3 ( $3 )
13:11<towo`>what?
13:11<towo`>http://paste.debian.net/171353/ thats the result from dpkg -l | awk '/nvidia/{ print $2 }'
13:12<valdyn>towo`: yes? so?
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13:14<boodie>Ok 3 packages have been removed + I have eliminated the /etc/nvidia-kernel-common.conf ... X is not working yet, I suppose it's time to reboot
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13:15<adm001mi>I finally got an error on java... on either version it states that it can't find or load main class... eventhough it worked perfectly yesterday
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13:27<awal>Just a clarification: when using the whole disk for debian the installer format the disk as msdos by default ?
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13:29<awal>usually I use gparted live for format the whole disk as msdos then I do the debian installation. so I don't know if I should do that all the time or the debian installer does the job automatically when the entire disk is used for debian
13:29<awal>of course having bios not uefi
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13:35<Vier>Hi, i'm noob on debian. Someone know some greeat guide to set up an iptable service on systemd ?
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13:43<retrospectacus>Vier: why?
13:45<Vier>cause I have a script which works well but I just got a new server and I want to do the same with systemd
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13:45<Vier>I installed debian 8 on it
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13:48<retrospectacus>Vier: by "script" do you mean a set of iptables rules, or a real service?
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13:57<awal>Vier: I wonder if you can manage that via ufw/gufw....
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14:00<Vier>hum it's a set of iptables rules but I did an update-rc.d with start stop status and restart options
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14:01<Vier>never use ufw, i'll take a look at it
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14:29<AndroUser>Hello
14:30<adm001mi>hello
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15:01<musca>hi diasydios
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15:01<diasydios>hi i need help about turing machine
15:01<SleepyHead>fuck why'd you ruin it
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15:02<SleepyHead>diasydios: what help do you need specifically
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15:02<diasydios>similator of turing machine in langage C
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15:03<SleepyHead>I can't help you, but I'll read your source if you post it
15:04<diasydios>okay i'm gonna search
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15:05<diasydios>SleepyHead you know langage C i think ...
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15:07<valdyn>!homework
15:07<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, homework is something you should do yourself.
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15:09<SleepyHead>HA
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15:10<phillipsjk>A homework turing machine will probably have made-up instructions so you can't just copy&paste.
15:10<SleepyHead>I was always the guy in high school who helped other kids with their homework. I never minded much. :P Of course, this situation is different. This is IRC and English is not his native language.
15:10<diasydios>okay me i have a problem about it
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15:10<musca>diasydios: you know how to search the debian repo? apt-cache search "yourbuzzword"
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15:11<SleepyHead>I'm like 99% sure his problem has nothing to do with debian at this point.
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15:11<diasydios>musca i don't know sorry
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15:20<leta>Hi all! I have just installed Debian 8 using USB with dvd1 iso. I did not have the Internet connection while installing, so I could not choose what mirror to use. How can I do this now? Also, Debian requested some additional firmware that I didn't have... And now the WiFi isn't working, I guess that was the needed firmware...
15:20<musca>!sources.list
15:20<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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15:21<zenith>Hi. Is this there right channel to ask about add-ons to iceweasel? My question is if the add-on Ghostery is "safe" to use.
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15:23<musca>leta: you need to append "contrib non-free" for additional firmware
15:23<musca>!non-free sources
15:23<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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15:28<chris3100>Hello
15:28<leta>My sources.list looks like this
15:28<leta>---
15:28<leta>#
15:28<leta># deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20150425-12:54]/ jessie contrib main
15:28<leta>deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20150425-12:54]/ jessie contrib main
15:28-!-leta was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
15:28<retrospectacus>hi
15:29<chris3100>Strangest thing that my network-manager doesn't show my wlan0 card lol
15:29<retrospectacus>chris3100: does "ifconfig -a" show it?
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15:29<leta>Sorry about that...
15:29<leta>http://paste.debian.net/171386/
15:29<chris3100>yea
15:29<leta>here is it again
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15:30<babilen>dpkg: tell leta about jessie sources.list
15:30<babilen>leta: And where that has "main" you want it to be "main contrib non-free"
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15:31<babilen>The line with cdrom: can be safely removed along with all commented ones
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15:34<chris3100>retrospectacus, weird now it is not showing up lol
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15:35<leta>Ok. I have added the three lines ending with main contrib non-free and removed the other ones...
15:36<retrospectacus>leta: "apt-get update"
15:36<leta>I have also executed aptitude update. Is there anything else I should do?
15:36<retrospectacus>leta: then "lspci -nn" to see what your wifi card is
15:38<chris3100>Intel Corporation Wireless 7260
15:38<chris3100>oo
15:38<leta>http://paste.debian.net/171392/
15:38<chris3100>Brb :o
15:39<leta>It does not say anywhere Wifi or something like that... What am I looking for?
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15:39<retrospectacus>leta: apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi
15:39<retrospectacus>leta: it was on line 18
15:40<leta>Ok. Done.
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15:41<retrospectacus>leta: if it's not already working, try modprobe iwlwifi
15:42<leta>modprobe iwlwifi returned a new line, no other output...
15:42<hendrikL>modprobe -r iwlwifi
15:42<hendrikL>modprobe iwlwifi
15:43<retrospectacus>leta: well, it should be working
15:43<retrospectacus>leta: if you can see a wlan section in "ifconfig -a" then it is working
15:43<leta>I do see it. Maybe a logout would help?
15:43<retrospectacus>leta: proceed to https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
15:44<retrospectacus>what makes you think it isn't working?
15:44<leta>Ok. Thanks for help! :)
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15:46<leta>Well, I can not choose a wireless network. In the panel there is only wired network and mobile broadband...
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15:46<devil>leta: in network manager?
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15:47<leta>yes
15:47<devil>go to new and create one
15:47<devil>or add, whatever it is
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15:52<chris3100>All is well, found the right driver on the forums, Cheers! Take care
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15:53<leta>I have restarted the system. Now the Wireless is shown in the menu but always turned off. If I turn it on, it just flips back to off. Further more, Airplane mode is always on...
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15:54<devil>leta: you need to configure it, add you ESSID and password
15:54<devil>just x out airplane mode
15:54<devil>see the wrench on the top right?
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15:55<leta>Actually, I use Cinnamon...
15:55<devil>that should not matter
15:55<devil>network manager should be the same
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15:56<leta>Hmmm... This one is called Networking and I see no wrench...
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15:57<devil>well, you need to configure it, use common sense
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15:57<devil>maybe musca knows more, he uses cinnamon
15:59<musca>hmm?
16:00<musca>ah, i will reboot into cinnamon and take a look
16:00<devil>musca: network manager applet with cinnamoin
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16:01<leta>Damn!
16:01<leta>I have a hardware switch which was ON. Tried turning it OFF and then ON again and it worked...
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16:03<blast007>heh, the old "have you tried turning it off and on again?" ;)
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16:22<lizard>IDENTIFUY
16:22<lizard>IDENTIFY
16:22<SleepyHead>IDeNTIFY
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16:38<Kureyslii>EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
16:38<Kureyslii>ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ÝLAHE ÝLLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
16:38<Kureyslii>I did the obligatory prayers five times a day to the nation. And I promised myself that, who (beside me) taking care not to make the five daily prayers comes ahead of time, I'll put it to heaven. Who says prayer does not show attention to me I do not have a word for it.! Prophet Muhammad (s.a.v.)
16:38<Kureyslii>hell if you did until the needle tip could not remove your head from prostration Prophet Muhammad pbuh
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17:25<chris3100>Hello, does anyone have any ideas on how to get a touch screen recognized ?
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17:27<chris3100>I typed xinput --list, and doesnt show my touch screen :(
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17:31<Darby_Crash><chris3100>
17:32<Darby_Crash>@chris3100: try to run apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
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17:35<Darby_Crash>what is command output?
17:37<chris3100>Ok, just give me a minute, I was missing something else as well, when that is finished. I will let you know
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17:39<Darby_Crash>ok
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17:43<chris3100>Darby_Crash, http://paste.debian.net/171424/
17:44<Darby_Crash># apt-cache policy gpointing-device-settings
17:44<Darby_Crash>now run this
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17:45<Darby_Crash>chris3100
17:46<chris3100>Ok, http://paste.debian.net/171425/
17:46<Darby_Crash>ok
17:46<Darby_Crash>install it
17:46<chris3100>ok
17:46<Darby_Crash>apt-get update
17:47<Darby_Crash>apt-get install gpointing-device-settings
17:47<chris3100>yea installed
17:47<Darby_Crash>ok
17:48<Darby_Crash>scrolling work?
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17:48<retrospectacus>!ubuntuirc chris3100
17:48<dpkg>chris3100: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
17:48<retrospectacus>only Debian is supported here
17:49<chris3100>No, still the same as before
17:49<chris3100>I guess I have to leave :P
17:49<chris3100>Thanks for helping out Darby_Crash
17:49<chris3100>Cya later
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17:49<Darby_Crash>ok chris3100
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18:06<gnufan>systemd "a start job is running on disk....".... curious why systemd thinks waiting 90s is sensible (seems insane amount of time, and I use to work with big disk storage), and why when I plugged-in and powered up the device that the auto-setup has clearly marked as a dependency for everything, and resumed the boot process it didn't bring up eth0?!
18:07<gnufan>Oh and what is this x2d naming convention?
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18:08<cynicallemon>i find the waiting on disk is probably fdisk running in background maybe
18:08<cynicallemon>i get it too
18:10<gnufan>No I don't believe it is doing anything during the "a start job is running" since the disk it was complaining about was switched off.
18:10<cynicallemon>it sometimes fscks up during boot and fails to mount my raid array and drops me to a shell, on reboot it tends to start okay as a rule
18:11<cynicallemon>debian was just too quick to adopt systemd in the first place
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18:12<cynicallemon>i think jessie will possibly lose them some valuable users
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18:14<gnufan>Oh it fsck on reboot, but that is all separate stuff. The power failed, all three issues on rebooting were systemd related. The first I assume is just it has assumed that disks mounted at upgrade/install time are required - which is a plausible default (although it might have asked). The other two look like bugs. The waiting 90s just fails my "they plucked a random number from the air" test, nothing in modern computing takes 90s but waiting for ot
18:15<cynicallemon>yeah 90 seconds seems the standard wait time
18:16<gnufan>And to be sure those are arbitrary numbers for DNS and TCP which work well if you are on the moon, but 25s is eternity even if you have to bounce your TCP packets of a few geostationary satellites to make a connection.
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18:17<cynicallemon>yep sadly we are stuck with krauts krap
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18:17<cynicallemon>guess we can remove systemd (and i have) but this might open a can of worms further down the track
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18:19<SamB_laptop>cynicallemon: how do you remove it?
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18:20<cynicallemon>SamB_laptop: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
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18:21<cynicallemon>SamB_laptop: be warned, if you use Gnome then forget it as Gnome relies on systemd
18:22<cynicallemon>SamB_laptop: I would only remove systemd on a server based install or a simple gui install with a window manager maybe
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18:24<gnufan>I'm kind of resigned to having to learn it, but it seems rather sparsely documented. I can't find a reference to the naming convention being used, it looks like they are trying to derive disk names from UUID, but disks and filesystems are different types of thing. I maybe confused on the specifics, but without any obvious documentation this is hardly surprising.
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18:24<cynicallemon>SamB_laptop: sadly even gimp has a systemd depency now it seems so it appears to be getting harder to avoid it on the desktop
18:25<SamB_laptop>cynicallemon: that's kind of ridiculous
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18:25<gnufan>RHEL 7 has gone there too, as I said resigned to learning it.
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18:26<SamB_laptop>well, depending on whether you mean "some other thing that happens to be in the systemd package" or not
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18:26<cynicallemon>gnufan: what really irks me is if you uninstall a service (say samba), systemd still trys to launch it at reboot. it has no idea it's no longer there
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18:28<rm-f>привет
18:29<cynicallemon>SamB_laptop: yep ridiculous but I even saw someone create a systemd entry for irssi - now thats ridiculous
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18:29<rm-f>1
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18:30<rm-f>можно пор-руссски?
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18:30<agney>rm-f, how about you try in english ?
18:31<SamB_laptop>anyway I'm still running sysvinit, but I gave up on running jessie without systemd *installed* many months ago
18:31<rm-f>тще
18:31<cynicallemon>agney: perhaps he's using systemd lol
18:31<rm-f>ккrrrr
18:31<rm-f>not
18:32<rm-f>very not
18:32<agney>but he learned english in just one systemd call
18:32<cynicallemon>lol
18:32<gnufan>Oh I see the error messages escapes the "-" in the UID for no obvious reason, looks like over cautious escaping. Hence the weird looking UUIDs.
18:32<SamB_laptop>maybe he was stuck in the wrong keyboard layout
18:32<cynicallemon>it's probably lennart
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18:33<rm-f>deutsch?
18:34<cynicallemon>maybe he just got stuck in the keyboard...
18:34<rm-f>WOT wne 1.4.7 - very slow
18:34<diego>having a trouble: systemctl status rc.local is giving me an error I don't see http://paste.debian.net/171440/
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18:34<SamB_laptop>huh, ккrrrr is a mix of cyrillic and latin script
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18:34<cynicallemon>diego: welcome to systemd
18:34<gnufan>rm-f:#debian-de ?
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18:36<rm-f>nastnd
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18:36<diego>cynicallemon, XD it is just a simple line i used for activating nat
18:36<diego>but it is not working anymore
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18:37<rm-f>rm-f@rmf-Server:~$ cat /proc/version
18:37<rm-f>Linux version 3.16.0-34-lowlatency (buildd@tipua) (gcc version 4.9.1 (Ubuntu 4.9.1-16ubuntu6) ) #47-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 10 18:32:31 UTC 2015
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18:38<gnufan>diego: consider activating NAT when you bring the interface up, it has before and after hooks for that.
18:39<gnufan>diego: it being /etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces).
18:39<rm-f>gnufan Ubuntu-Studio
18:40<diego> !ubuntuirc rm-f
18:40<dpkg>rm-f: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
18:41<rm-f>LOL
18:41<SamB_laptop>diego: how are you handling the interface in question?
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18:41<SamB_laptop>!ubuntu-studio
18:41<SamB_laptop>darn
18:42<diego>SamB_laptop, hardly remember
18:43<rm-f>my first unix = AIX . after - Novell, Slackware. RH
18:43<diego>how do I proceed with systemd to check it?
18:43<SamB_laptop>diego: I mean is it in /etc/network/interfaces or are you using NetworkManager or what
18:43<retrospectacus>rm-f: install debian and you can get support here
18:43<diego>rm-f, my apologies
18:44<SamB_laptop>so, um, is Ubuntu studio actually Ubuntu in the first place? (though clearly it is not Debian.)
18:45<cynicallemon>diego: when you say " it is just a simple line i used for activating nat" do you mean activating iptables in general?
18:45<diego>/etc/network/interfaces has only my loopback
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18:45<rm-f>Debian = is my server at home, Now = I-m at .....
18:46<rm-f>DASHGA
18:46<diego>I once installed noip2 and I remember setting some configuration to let me in from outside
18:47<diego>so I had to activate something from the kernel and then that line in rc.local
18:47<diego>but during jessi upgrade I mess up a bit
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18:47<SamB_laptop>diego: so probably the other interface(s) use NetworkManager, unless you installed something else
18:48<SamB_laptop>unfortunately I have no idea how to configure extra steps with NetworkManager
18:49<diego>how do I know if I use networkmanager?
18:50<rm-f>test
18:50<rm-f>use it
18:50<diego>i typed services... and network.manages seems to be listes with a + i gues i use it :)
18:51<cynicallemon>diego: if you only have loopback in /etc/network/interfaces then you are probably running network manager or some other manager
18:51<rm-f>but console is best
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18:52<rm-f>lol ... how Windows
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18:55<rm-f>Who playng WOT over wne 1.7 &
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18:57<rm-f>all dead???
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18:59<rm-f>test
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19:03<rm-f>Who known about WOT at wine 1.7 (PlauOnLinux) ...network closed?
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19:06<rm-f>скучно тут у вас
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19:32<EdZ>Hello, I have messed up repositories. I have a list of depositories now, but which bits do I put in: URI, Distribution, and Section?
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19:33<musca>!sources.list
19:33<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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19:39<diego>virtualbox service is failing
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19:40<diego>I get virtualbox.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1
19:40<diego>how do I fix it?
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19:49<Minimon>some
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19:49<Minimon>how this works
19:49<Minimon>?
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20:02<adjmogollon>hola
20:02<adjmogollon>alguien que me pueda ayudar con el bluetooth
20:03<adjmogollon>aloo
20:03<adjmogollon>si buenas
20:03<adjmogollon>nadie?
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20:07<ed>Hello Again, Can someone please explain *precisely* what should be in my /etc/apt/sources.list, or how to sort it from Synaptic?
20:07<themill>ed: for which release?
20:08<ed>Jessie 8
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20:08<themill>dpkg: tell ed about jessie sources.list
20:09<themill>If you need to, you can append " contrib non-free" to each of the three lines dpkg gave you. (no quotes in any of that of course)
20:11<diego>I cannot see the user selecting initial screen neither gnome works
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20:12<ed>My current /etc/apt/sources.list is: # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
20:12<ed># jessie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
20:13<sney>ed: nothing else? sounds like you're missing a primary mirror
20:13<themill>ed: you can replace that with what dpkg told you
20:14<ed>Do the lines you guys gave me above need #'s? Or is that just commenting stuff out?
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20:14<awal_>ed: put this in your sources.list file and you are done http://paste.debian.net/171459
20:15<themill>ed: they are comments
20:15<awal_>add contrib non-free after main in each line if you need them, ed
20:17<diego>how do I fix gnome?
20:17<dvs>diego: apt-get purge gnome
20:17<dvs>;-)
20:17<diego>LOL
20:18<awal_>ed: so if you want contrib and non-free should be ---> http://paste.debian.net/171460
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20:19<sney>awal_: you know the dpkg bot sends people information, right?
20:21<diego>dvs, actually I cnnot even log into gnome because the previous screen where users are selected to get logged into the system is not There
20:22<awal_>sney: of course. but i understand the problem that people not familiar with debian have with sources.list. I had same issue when I started using debian and needed some days for understand how i works.... so...
20:22<dvs>awal_: What the heck is httpredir?
20:23<awal_>dvs: something like this http://http.debian.net/
20:24<sney>awal_: it can just get noisy if a bunch of people keep telling someone the same information over and over.
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20:25<awal_>dvs: that repos (httpredir) can be choosen as default when configuring apt during installation, nothing new
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20:26<themill>httpredir.d.o is not "something like" http.d.n, it is exactly http.d.n
20:27<dvs>oh
20:27<themill>http.debian.net. 3596 IN CNAME httpredir.debian.org.
20:27<ed>Me again, have put the three suggested lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list, how exactly do I add contrib/non-free? You guys are giving conflicting advice...
20:27<themill>awal_: ^^
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20:27*sney isn't sure how http.d.n wound up with 2 separate fqdns, but anyway
20:27<themill>sney: prototype became official
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20:28<sney>but the "prototype" url was shorter and easier to remember. zuh
20:28<themill>lots of things start off as a d.n prototype and then migrate to d.o
20:28<themill>indeed
20:28<themill>I've just been swearing at IRC line length limitations for adding in those extra 4 characters
20:28<diego>how can I send a file with w3m to https://paste.debian.net?
20:28<themill>5
20:28<ed>what, just put http://paste.debian.net/171460 under the other three lines?
20:29<sney>diego: why not use pastebinit
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20:29<diego>what is it?
20:29<dvs>ed: you already have contrib and nonfree
20:29<sney>ed: no, add 'contrib non-free' on to any line ending in 'main' where you want to add non-free
20:29<ed>does it have to start with deb, and does it have that other stuff under it?
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20:30<themill>ed: it needs precisely 3 lines. The 3 lines that dpkg gave you
20:30<dvs>ed: according to your paste, you already have it
20:30<themill>dvs: that's awal's paste
20:31<dvs>oh nvm
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20:31<sney>I like editing sources.list in nano, it gives nice syntax highlighting and helps visualize all the parts
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20:31<dvs>ed: then that paste would be your entiore sources.list file
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20:45<ed>Hello, have updated my /etc/apt/sources.list, what was that bit about running 'aptitude'? What's that?
20:45<dvs>ed: a graphical apt-get
20:45<dvs>oops
20:45<dvs>sorry.
20:45<dvs>ed: an alternative to aptitude
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20:48<awal_>ed: https://wiki.debian.org/
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21:11<ed>Hello,
21:11<ed>I am trying to network my Asus X200CA running Jessie 8 via my iPhone 5's mobile hotspot. It only works very occasionally. I have tried two different network SIMs, the Asus has no trouble finding other WiFi's. I am currently networking via my friend's Nokia Windoze phone.
21:11<ed>Suspiciously, other peoples' iPhones do seem to find it.
21:11<ed>Tomorrow, I am going to see if my friend's iPhone will network my laptop.
21:11<ed>Has anyone come across any difficulty with iPhones??
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21:15<ed>Hello, I am trying to network my Asus X200CA running Jessie 8 via the mobile WiFi hotspot on my new iPhone 5. Almost never works. Laptop finds other WiFi easily. Has anyone had trouble with networking via iPhones?
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21:28<EdZ>As I was asking, does anyone network via the mobile WiFi hotspot on an iPhone?
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21:43<EdZ>Also, on boot-up, I get 'Uncleared PCH FIFO on PCH Transcoder A', on my Asus X200CA running Jessie 8... any clues?
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21:44-!-Yst is "Yst" on #freedombox #debian-offtopic @#Replicant # #debian @#Libreboot #guardianproject #notnotnotnotnottor #android-os #moocows #oftc #tor #nottor
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22:06<SamB_laptop>edog: are you using VGA?
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22:07<SamB_laptop>er.
22:07<SamB_laptop>I meant EdZ, but he's gone
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22:12<ary>Hi, How do I add conky at jessie start up? I cant find Startup Aplications sessions.
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22:25<awal_>ary: jessie start up?
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22:36<somiaj>ary: conky is something you will want to load with xorg. How you do this depends a lot on the desktop you are using. Look up startup applications for the desktop you are using.
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22:44<soundconjurer>Is there an update manager for Debian Jessie Mate?
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23:03<SamB_laptop>I wonder what an update manager is
23:03<themill>,i update-manager
23:03<judd>No package named 'update-manager' was found in jessie/amd64.
23:03<themill>, update-notifier
23:03<themill>,i update-notifier
23:03<judd>Package update-notifier (oldlibs, extra) in jessie/amd64: Transitional package (update-notifier -> gnome-packagekit). Version: 3.14.0-1; Size: 256.2k; Installed: 280k; Homepage: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-packagekit/stable/; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/update-notifier
23:03<themill>gah
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23:12<EdZ>As I was asking, does anyone network via the mobile WiFi hotspot on an iPhone?
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23:13<EdZ>Also, on boot-up, I get 'Uncleared PCH FIFO on PCH Transcoder A', on my Asus X200CA running Jessie 8... any clues?
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23:17<SamB_laptop>EdZ: what kind of monitor connection?
23:18<SamB_laptop>does it happen when you don't have a monitor connected?
23:18<SamB_laptop>that's about the error message, I have no idea about the iPhone thing
23:18<EdZ>Just my laptop screen...
23:19<SamB_laptop>oh, well I guess you're not going to be disconnecting that
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23:20<SamB_laptop>EdZ: anyway, does anything actually go noticably wrong with the display, or is that error message all you see?
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23:20<EdZ>A friend said it was something to do with the graphics chipset,
23:21<EdZ>The screen menus and windows sometimes start flickering on and off, 'til I reboot...
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23:30<SamB_laptop>EdZ: do you get a lot more of those messages on the console when that's happening?
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23:42<EdZ>Haven't noticed. must open my console.
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