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00:06<geodude>Is that why debian.org only shows the latest news if I refresh?
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00:32<MooFz> http://i.imgur.com/2x6xmPF.jpg <--- that's what I get. When I use apt-get install ssh-server, it wants to install from cd. How can I change that?
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00:45<somiaj>MooFz: modify you /etc/apt/sources.list, remove the deb-cdrom lines and make sure you have valid internet lines
00:45<somiaj>then run apt-get update
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00:49<geodude>Also, post text to pastebin.com instead of literally photographing a monitor.
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00:50<MooFz>somiaj, I can just add "##" infront of those lines right?
00:50<somiaj>MooFz: corect
00:51<MooFz>K thanks!
00:51<somiaj>MooFz: looks like a reinstall fixed your bootloader problems.
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00:53<MooFz>somiaj. yeah indeed. Like I mentioned before
00:54<MooFz>While reinstalling I got the warning
00:54<MooFz>that there was a OS installed already in legacy mode
00:55<MooFz>followed by the question if I wanted to force the new install in uefi mode
00:55<MooFz>The default answer to that question was "no" . So I selected yes and everything went fine
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02:41<n>when I try to install php5-redis it says network-manager is too old and when I try to install network-manager, it try to upgrade my whole system including xserver -300mb
02:41<n>wierd, something messed up
02:42<jm_>!bat
02:42<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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02:45<n>http://paste.debian.net/176783/
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02:46<n>my battery is going to run out, but I will go home charge for 40mins and come back hopefully, o rmaybe tomorrow morning then
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02:46<jm_>and 'apt-cache policy' output
02:46<jm_>ahh yeah I see, you haven't upgraded to jessie yet, have you?
02:47<n>no, jessie is stable now/
02:47<n>?
02:47<jm_>yes
02:47<n>oh so that is the issue, ok so I will just do a full upgrade tomorrow, thx jm_
02:47<jm_>so either upgrade to jessie or use "wheezy" in sources.list instead of "stable" until you upgrade
02:47<jm_>no problem
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03:19<anthen94>anyone using parrot linux?
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03:23<Apollo_>!based on
03:23<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
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03:26<geodude>What is a pure blend?
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03:29<Apollo_>geodude: http://blends.debian.org/
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03:39<decentdog>Hi, I'm confused about how /etc/apt/preferences work. I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade ant I think it installed all sid packages, which I didn't want at all. Here are my configs: https://gist.github.com/yfyf/5b4b05c2faa430b6377b
03:39<decentdog>What am I doing wrong?
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03:47<peter1138>You did a dist-upgrade without checking what was going to be installed.
03:47<decentdog>Indeed, but I thought my preferences file would prevent any sid packages to be installed?
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03:54<decentdog>/etc/os-release also says my release is now strecht/sid : /
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03:55<knoppix_>x
03:55<knoppix_>Hallo
03:55<knoppix_>ist
03:55<knoppix_>jemand
03:55<knoppix_>da?
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03:55<Guest5180>hi
03:55<Guest5180>penis
03:56<Guest5180>mojmrf
03:56<Guest5180>rf
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03:57<Guest5180>hallo
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03:57<@jm_>do you have anything debian related we can help you with?
03:57<Guest5180>bekomme ich op?
03:57<Guest5180>g
03:57<Guest5180>gg
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03:57<Guest5180>gg
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03:58<peter1138>decentdog, never done it, but when I look up pinning, it says to use a=unstable, not a=sid.
03:59<peter1138>But that might just be old.
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03:59<IpudipuLALALA>hi
04:00<babilen>decentdog: And it is *much* easier to ensure that you can't install packages from unstable simply by not having it in your sources.
04:00<babilen>;)
04:00<IpudipuLALALA>ok
04:00<IpudipuLALALA>i am coming from germany
04:00<peter1138>That would be my method :)
04:00<IpudipuLALALA>okay
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04:00<@jm_>I was ready to pounce :(
04:00<decentdog>I know, but occasionally I need some unstable pacakages
04:01-!-mode/#debian [-b *!*knoppix@p5B251BC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] by jm_
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04:01<decentdog>and I assumed the 'a=' refers simply to the deb-source name
04:01<peter1138>I have no idea on that matter.
04:01<decentdog>so, in the wiki it's testing/unstable, because that's what it's called in the sources.list
04:02<babilen>You should check "apt-cache policy" it typically gives a good idea to what you should use.
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04:03<babilen>So, it would ne "a=unstable" or "n=sid", but I'd probably just use unstable in the sources.list. That being said: You really shouldn't mix stable and unstable.
04:04<decentdog>yeah, I changed both sources.list and preferences to refer to testing/unstable instead and now my `apt-cache policy` displays reasonable things
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04:04<decentdog>so I guess now it's time to go down the downgrade rollercoaster : )
04:04<decentdog>anyway, it's a personal machine, so I don't mind messing up things once in a while, that's why I opt-in for the messy "a few sid packages here and there"
04:05<decentdog>thanks for the help!
04:06<babilen>decentdog: I would personally recommend to just track testing with unstable in your sources.list over that *or* to explicitly backport the packages you need from unstable. See <tum> and <ssb> for details -- /msg dpkg tum
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04:50<KilatBiru>there s no topic here?
04:51<jm_>there is
04:52<Jane-PC>/topic
04:54<KilatBiru>sorry
04:54<lds>Good morning debians users
04:55<KilatBiru>good day
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05:08<yaclm>Hello! How can I create starters on the desktop in gnome 3.6?
05:09<EmleyMoor>I have a printer that generates test pages OK, and can be printed to on the machine it's on, and is set up on my other machines with the same driver, but if I try to print anything to it, the job fails, the message "Filter failed" being seen in cups. Why would that happen?
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05:39<KilatBiru>i have an issue with my hashcat
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05:41<jm_>KilatBiru: this is a debian support channel
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06:52<viccuad>Hi guys. Is there any way of deactivating gnome-keyring-daemon, better than renaming its file in /usr/bin? it hijacks the gpg-agent, but does not have smartcard support, so smartcards don't work. thanks in advance
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07:05<newbie200>hi people I would like to get WIFI working on my laptop, and do not know at all how to do this. The internet works fine (through eth cable). Any help?
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07:06<towo_nb>newbie200, without telling us your hardware, no
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07:07<newbie200>sony vaio controller intel centrino wimax 6250 (whatever it means:)
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07:08<towo_nb>lspci | grep -i net
07:08<towo_nb>but i would oracle, you need to install firmware-iwlwifi
07:09<newbie200>the first half of the answer see above, the second realtek semiconductor rto8111/8168b pci express gigabit
07:10<newbie200>firmware-iwlwifi
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07:11<newbie200>(sorry for the last phrase)
07:11<musca>np newbie200
07:12<newbie200>just retyped the suggested firmware
07:12<musca>newbie200: firmware packages are available in the debian non-free repos
07:12<musca>!non-free sources
07:12<dpkg>Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
07:12<towo_nb>you should install it, instead of writing it down here
07:13<newbie200>towo_nb - do you confirm it is this package to install?
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07:13<towo_nb>newbie200, sure
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07:15<newbie200>ok - trying
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07:20<newbie200>sorry - i forgot that I am using ubutnu and not debian for the moment. so the dpkg advice would not work, the sources.list is not of the same type
07:24<jm_>!ubuntuirc newbie200
07:24<dpkg>newbie200: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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08:30<Xylon>Hi
08:30<Xylon>setting up a jessie server
08:31<Xylon>normally I create a custom /etc/init.d script for my server soft, are there any differences now that is uses systemd?
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08:32<towo_nb>since systemd-sysv, systemd can use oldstyle initscripts too
08:33<towo_nb>the better solution would be a systemd service-file
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08:34<Xylon>hm OK
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08:41<awal>Any elegant way for reduce the thickness of title bars in Gnome?
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08:42<awal>They are so too big. top panel + title bar+menu bar = 20% of the screen lost :(
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08:45<abrotman>awal: In which version of Gnome?
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08:47<awal>abrotman: gnome3 (jessie) 1:3.14+3
08:47<abrotman>you sohuld probably show people with a screenshot .. my bar on top is very small
08:48<awal>abrotman: It's a fresh install, I have to configure network first (securise it) then be able to paste from that machine
08:48<awal>abrotman: can I see yours please for compare?
08:49<abrotman>I'm not on that box at the moment
08:50<awal>ahm, ok. thats fine
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08:56<awal>no doubt I have the standard gnome thickness,like 5 mm/1 cm, but I find it too large. Probably, for now, I'll have just to change the gtk3 theme, move to 'clearlooks-phenix-theme'
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09:18<b4tima>alguem
09:18<b4tima>?
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09:24<dengxinjun>hello
09:24<dengxinjun>??
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09:33<leonardo>Asleep. was. I.
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09:37<b4tima>ola
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10:45<lupine>anyone know of a tool like cutter that works on ipv6 ?
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10:49<atte>hi! I can't start my desktop for the life of me on a fresh install
10:50<n8ykh>I'm sorry to hear that/
10:50<atte>i should have the desktopenviroment and gnome both installed
10:50<atte>but no idea how to properly start
10:50<n8ykh>have you tried "startx" at the prompt
10:50<atte>ya. it terminates after a few seconds
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10:51<n8ykh>how many times have you installed the os?
10:52<atte>screen goes black for a moment and then gives the message of termination
10:52<atte>hmm maybe 3 times today?
10:52<blast007>atte: what graphics card does that system have?
10:52<n8ykh>is this a laptop or desktop?
10:53<atte>desktop, i-m currently using MB vga out since the graphics card dvi gives a black screen only
10:54<blast007>need specifics. 'lspci | grep VGA' would give a general idea.
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10:56<atte>amd/ati Tahiti XT, R9 280X
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10:58<atte>I tried to install firmware-linux-nonfree libgll-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati
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10:58<atte>per instructions on debian wiki
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10:58<atte>libgll-mesa-dri was not found
10:59<atte>@ wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
10:59<blast007>which version of Debian are you running?
10:59<atte>8
10:59<atte>downloaded ISO today
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11:00<blast007>that package does exist
11:00<blast007>!bat
11:00<dpkg>In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
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11:00<Marillion>atte: i believe your hardware is to new for the 3.16.X Kernel (guessed)
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11:01<atte>so, if I unplucked the card it might work?
11:01<blast007>Marillion: the wiki says "The radeon driver in Debian 8 "Jessie" supports R100 to Hawaii (Radeon 7000 - Radeon R9 290) GPUs." so one would assume the kernel included would support it as well.
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11:02<blast007>but let's focus on getting the required packages to install first, okay? :)
11:02<Marillion>blast007: sometimes is possible the Kernel has a bug
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11:03<atte>I tried finding the package again but to no avail
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11:03<blast007>atte: does your /etc/apt/sources.list have network mirrors?
11:04<atte>it has a local finnish mirror
11:04<atte>I tried adding the contrib non-free components after it
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11:05<atte>do I need to add them to all of the rows for that address?
11:05<blast007>on all except the security updates line(s)
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11:06<atte>ok
11:08<atte>done
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11:08<atte>a bit slow with this command line only
11:09<blast007>so you have 'jessie main contrib non-free' at the end of your deb lines (except for on security)?
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11:10<atte>yes I do
11:12<atte>oh oh I got into a driver installation menu, brb
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11:12<Guest5215>hi
11:13<blast007>atte: so does 'apt-get update ; apt-cache show libgl1-mesa-dri' show you information about libgl1-mesa-dri?
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11:14<Guest5215>Q. about FTP! How open the port 21 with local ip address
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11:15<Marillion>Guest5215: is open by default, no iptable rules are written
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11:16<atte>blast007: it seems to be already installed. I might have typoed it at some point
11:16<blast007>Guest5215: also, this channel is for Debian support, not for Knoppix.
11:17<atte>configuring the fglrx driver->
11:17<blast007>atte: no, don't do that.. unless you don't want to use Gnome...
11:17<atte>oh
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11:17<blast007>Gnome will not work with fglrx, as specifically mentioned in the Jessie release notes
11:18<atte>aw man, how do I get rid of it then?
11:18<blast007>how did you install them?
11:19<atte>with aptitude
11:19<atte>oh, there it says dont use these. I-m using my phone to read the wiki
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11:20<blast007>apt-get purge fglrx-driver
11:21<atte>thanks
11:21<towo_nb>that's not enaughth siunce it is only a meta-package
11:22<blast007>fun
11:22<towo_nb>apt-get purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/fglrx/{ print $2 }') should do
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11:22<blast007>or just look at what it installed and remove those things
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11:24<atte>should I reinstall and do only the wiki's AtiHowTo part and go from there?
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11:25<atte>rather- do I really need the graphics card driver before I can launch desktop?
11:26<atte>sorry for the negativity, has been a long day :)
11:26<lostatwork>are you seeing a firmware issue right at the beginning of the boot process
11:27<atte>after grub?
11:27<lostatwork>with this pc it has a ATI card and it would not pull right until I install firmware-linux-nonfree package then the ati worked just fine without having to install the proprietary drivers
11:30<atte>I think I already have it. x launches but aborts
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11:31<towo_nb>with "i think" no one can work with it
11:31<towo_nb>give facts
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11:34<atte>I rebooted and at least the resolution is more like it
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11:34<atte>but x still terminates
11:35<atte>it did give a firmware error before login
11:35<towo_nb>radeon need firmware-linux-nonfree
11:35<towo_nb>as stated by lostatwork before
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11:40<atte>it should be already installed
11:41<atte>it is
11:42<tuv0k>https://wiki.debian.org/UTF8BrokenApps
11:42<tuv0k>(easytag:14236): CRITICAL **: Try_To_Validate_Utf8_String: assertion 'string != NULL' faile
11:42<blast007>atte: did you uninstall all the packages that fglrx installed?
11:42<tuv0k>sqlite3.OperationalError: Could not decode to UTF-8 column 'lyrics' with text
11:43<tuv0k>anyone having issues with utf-8?
11:43<atte>I used the purge per your instructions
11:43<atte>the longer method I didn't try
11:43<blast007>right, and right after, someone said that isn't enough because it's just a meta-package
11:43<atte>sure
11:44<atte>i rebooted so I lost it
11:44<blast007>see what it installed by reading through /var/log/aptitude
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11:45<n8ykh>When I installed nvidia graphics drivers, I had to disable the default video driver...starts with an l. lenoue or something.
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11:46<blast007>n8ykh: nouveau
11:47<n8ykh>ah yes, nouveau
11:47<atte>blast007: it says the list tells the intended actions, not the history
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11:48<atte>what to make of that?
11:49<blast007>did you have any errors during the install? ;)
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11:49<atte>haha, can't say. it started a graphic info window
11:50<atte>and ran some lines like no other
11:50<atte>maybe I'll just start over ;) do this nice and neat
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11:50<atte>something has gone right since the resolution is high
11:51<atte>from VGA. dvi from radeon still shows only black signal
11:52<blast007>was the DVI on the card plugged in during boot?
11:53<atte>I think so, yes. but then i switched to vga
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11:53<atte>should i reboot with only one of them plugged in?
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11:55<blast007>*shrugs* was just a thought
11:55<blast007>may also be options in your BIOS to change the primary graphics card or completely disable the onboard
11:56<atte>hmm I'll try that, disabling the onboard.
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12:09<atte>I don't know what happened with bios but here I am in the gnome desktop
12:10<atte>o/
12:10<n8ykh>nice
12:11<atte>I was planning to use kde but this will do for now
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12:11<atte>this is progress :D
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12:50<wargreen>hi !
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13:01<wargreen>I try to build a live-pxe, and after some updates, it don't boot anymore : after ip-config, i got a loop with "chroot: can't execute 'test': No such file or directory Begin: Retrying nfs mount ... mount: Device or resource busy"
13:01<wargreen>and i haven't more any nfs mount log on the server
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13:12*muscy testing
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13:34<n8ykh>hmmm
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13:39<n8ykh>so it's trying to mount a point located on the server that you have the image on, but it can't because it's already mounted?
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13:47<beerbelott>Would someone be willing to help me double-check my calculations/doing, reducing the size of a partition?
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13:47<beerbelott>This would be done in PV
13:48<beerbelott>PM*
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14:04<raheel>need help in configuring squid in transparent mode. been banging my head since the last 2-3 days help me out pl.
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14:06<jmlongo>well... maybe you will have a lot more success if you try to find a Squid related IRC channel....
14:06<towo_nb>https://www.debian-administration.org/article/71/Transparent_proxies_via_Squid.
14:07<jmlongo>but maybe folks around here can give you a hand too ;)
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14:15<raheel>i have tried every thing. googling since two days, tried different parameters and iptable rules but there seems to be something very small i am missing. i would love if someone is able to help me find that missing link.
14:16<raheel>basically i added http_port 3128 intercept then enabled ip forwarding and finally added iptable rules iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -j wlan0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
14:16<raheel>still squid does not intercept! unless i tell the client to use port 3128
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14:18<raheel>there is some problem with the damn rules
14:19<brian>raheel: stick a log on your iptables rules
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14:25<beerbelott>raheel: your rule seems to have a typo
14:26<beerbelott>I wonder if it works, does not ip(6)tables shout at you?
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14:26<beerbelott>it should be -i wlan0
14:26<beerbelott>not -j
14:27<beerbelott>you could use ip(6)tables-save
14:27<beerbelott>to see what rules are exported
14:27<beerbelott>(more detailed and precise than -L
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14:34<wargreen>if is some netboot-guru here : my netboot try to mount two time the nfs, so the second loop on "device or resource busy"
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14:35<wargreen>this netboot is build with live-build, and manually update
14:35<raheel>what would that be
14:35<raheel>beerbelott what would that be
14:36<beerbelott>the iptable you provided
14:36<beerbelott>u wrote -j wlan0 I suppose you wanted to restrict the rule to the wlan0 interface
14:36<beerbelott>in that case it is '-i wlan0'
14:37<beerbelott>(20:16:11) raheel: basically i added http_port 3128 intercept then enabled ip forwarding and finally added iptable rules iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -j wlan0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
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14:39<raheel>beerbelott that is what i also did but client can only use squid by directing to port 3128 other than that squid is bypassed
14:39<raheel>that is the problem
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14:40<son>how can I add a firewall to the startup?
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14:51<valdyn>!ufw
14:51<dpkg>Uncomplicated firewall (ufw) is an <iptables> front-end with syntax similar to OpenBSD's Packet Filter (PF). https://launchpad.net/ufw
14:51<valdyn>son: install ufw
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15:13<n>whats backports for jesse, or I can just remove that backports for now, since it was from jesse anyway
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15:13<n>what's this gnome keyring and how can I uninstall it
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15:28<AnaMaria>I love debian
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15:31<n8ykh>learn the keyring, use the keyring, love the keyring. it's for storing pgp keys and usernames and passwords if you want to.
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15:34<yeferson>hola
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15:34<lostatwork>good afternoon
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15:35<viccuad_>mozilla.debian.net suggests to add unstable without any pinning, and then install -t unstable iceweasel: http://mozilla.debian.net/
15:35<viccuad_>that will break a lot of installs!
15:35<viccuad_>do anyone know how to contact them?
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15:38<blast007>viccuad_: that site has contact information
15:38<blast007>"Please report any problem to..."
15:39<viccuad_>blast007: true, I just saw it, writting them an email
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16:11<n>n8ykh, is it removable?
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16:16<n8ykh>I would just use a search engine to answer that.
16:16<n8ykh>I don't understand why you want to remove it.
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16:30<n>n8ykh, it keeps popping up, sometimes ten at a time and I gotta click cancel,cancel....
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16:33<n>Cause I have xfce, I see in my autostart applications -PolicyKit Authentication Agent, is that it, is that safe to uncheck?
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16:34<n>grub-install: warning: Sector 51 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it. This software may cause boot or other problems in future. Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.
16:34<n>Installation finished. No error reported.
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16:36<n8ykh>if you open up the keyring, you can select the different uses of it and delete them
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16:37<n>n8ykh, thx
16:37<n>I've never openned up the keyring
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16:40<n>when I try to install network-manager, it goes about to install 300mb of me whole system. But I just did an apt-get upgrade
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16:43<n>how long is the dist upgrade, 1hr?
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16:45<tethra>dist-upgrade will vary wildly, mostly it depends on your installed software, connection speed, disc speed, etc.
16:46<n>ok, thx guys, ttyl
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16:51<jthomas>Can anyone help configure Samba on Deb8 to auth against an LDAP backend? I can't even keep Samba running with the LDAP settings I have from older setups
16:51<valdyn>jthomas: it works the same
16:51<jthomas>yep.
16:52<valdyn>jthomas: there should be no difference except for the services names
16:52<jthomas>for startup scripts / systemd you mean?
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16:52<valdyn>jthomas: due to samba4 and also due to systemd, yes
16:53<valdyn>jthomas: its now "systemctl restart smbd" for anything that is not an ad dc
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16:54<jthomas>well, it doesn't work for me; restarting with "passdb backend = ldapsam:"ldaps://________" " now basically isn't allowing Samba to restart; the /etc/init.d/samba status output is "exited"
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16:54<jthomas>any online configs to review?
16:55<valdyn>jthomas: the syntax did not change...
16:55<valdyn>jthomas: or so i thought, let me see
16:56<jthomas>I'm also getting auth.log that the session is logging out but I think I have pam.d/common-session set correctly, it's the same as a working Deb6 server
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16:57<jthomas>yeah with passdb backend = tdbsam samba is running (and I can see it with nmap from another machine), when I change that to LDAP it does not open ports that nmap can see
16:58<valdyn>jthomas: do you have a "samba" process running?
16:59<jthomas>only when passdb backend = tdbsam
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17:00<jthomas>oh i may have two seperate lines needed, one for passdb backend = ldapsam and one to define it
17:00<jthomas>currently it's on one line
17:00<valdyn>jthomas: even the samba wiki refers to the samba3 howto
17:00<jthomas>not sure why testparm does't test tihgs
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17:03<jthomas>wiki differs from the man page in that aspect, man page shows multiple lines for the backend and then defining it, vs wiki showing one line. neither are allowing it to start tho.
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17:07<valdyn>jthomas: uh, I assumed the whole time you were upgrading
17:08<valdyn>jthomas: but this is appearantly a new setup
17:09<valdyn>jthomas: so for all we know this could be some problem with the ssl cert
17:09<jthomas>sorry, yes, new Deb8
17:09<jthomas>could be, but the LDAP servers have'nt changed
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17:10<valdyn>jthomas: you need winbind too...
17:10<valdyn>jthomas: and probably restart it
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17:12<jthomas>man i really dislike this, is there some document that has an overview of all of this? how winbind comes into play, the difference between libnss-ldap and libnss-ldapd, what to set for /etc/pam.d/ files, etc?
17:13<valdyn>jthomas: what is it you want? That users log in and authenticate via pam? *OR* that users authenticate to use a share?
17:14<valdyn>jthomas: or maybe you want both, but those 2 things are quite independent
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17:14<jthomas>Ideally, I want to understand this headache. Secondarily, I guess I want to understand the difference between the two you just mentioned, I want them both.
17:15<valdyn>jthomas: right, but you can set them up one by one
17:15<jthomas>I want to auth against Pam/LDAP, and then authorize in smb.conf to use those shares
17:15<valdyn>jthomas: so, setting up your pam does involve setting up ldap, but does not involve samba
17:15<jthomas>I have PAM+LDAP working
17:15<jthomas>I cannot get Samba to run
17:15<valdyn>jthomas: in turn, samba can have an ldap auth backend just fine without pam being involved
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17:16<valdyn>jthomas: so you dont need to worry about pam anyway, because its already working
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17:16<jthomas>seriously, that's a big revelation, why is that not more discussed in online documentation?
17:16<valdyn>jthomas: dont ask me why...
17:18<valdyn>jthomas: passdb backend = ldapsam:ldap://127.0.0.1/ is what i had for 5 years, and i could give you that smb.conf, but i doubt it would help you
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17:18<valdyn>https://wiki.debian.org/SambaDcWithLdapBackend
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17:18<jthomas>but that's for using local ldap in samba, not using pam?
17:19<jthomas>what'
17:19<valdyn>jthomas: its just local because it was convenient, its still network
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17:19<jthomas>ooh... can you help me to understand, what's a DC used for? I just want file sharing and the Windows concept of a CD is very annoying
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17:20<anonymous>...
17:20<valdyn>jthomas: if you create a dc you can access shares on that dc using workgroup\username and password to log into that share
17:20<jthomas>versus what?
17:20<valdyn>jthomas: thats probably what you want
17:21<jthomas>isn't that what this does anyways?
17:21<jthomas>what's the alternative to a DC for samba, if not to log in and access shares?
17:21<valdyn>jthomas: but on top of that you can create a machine accounts for computers, and users on those computers can log into that computer using the same account they used to just access the share
17:22<jthomas>yes i don't want that
17:22<jthomas>i want file shares
17:22<valdyn>jthomas: its about the same setup
17:23<valdyn>jthomas: you just dont want to create machine accounts
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17:23<valdyn>jthomas: so you dont need like : "domain logons = yes"
17:24<jthomas>i guess not
17:24<jthomas>again, any overview of these options and how they fit?
17:24<jthomas>can you tell me the difference between libnss-ldap and libnss-ldapd ?
17:25<valdyn>jthomas: different implementations for the same thing
17:25<valdyn>jthomas: i think you should just use the debian wiki
17:25<jthomas>man I've tried that
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17:30<jthomas>I have zero references to printers in my smb.conf and the log.smbd says it has CUPS connection problems :-/
17:31<jthomas>removed /etc/samba/ and reinstall of samba didn't recreate the configs. sigh.
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17:33<jthomas>wtf, even a purge and reinstall doesn't bring it in?
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17:35<asdx>great news from debian 8, i just upgraded my VM that already had debian 8, and no more X; gnome3. mate and xfce4 is not working too :)
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17:41<jthomas>How can I reinstall Samba so that it recreates the necessay files, valdyn or anyone? dpkg-reconfigure samba-common only made the smb.conf file, but no log folder exists for example.
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17:48<jthomas>apt-get --reinstall install samba did the trick, aparently aptitude can't do that?
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17:52<n8ykh>aptitude uses apt
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17:54<jthomas>strange, aptitude didn't create the files that apt did.
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17:55<n8ykh>i personally have trouble with the higher level package managers, so i just use apt in the terminal.
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17:55<jthomas>i'm having no end to trouble today.
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18:01<nsd>Hi, I'm running debian 7.8 wheezy, and having issues with ifup. I have my network device listed in /etc/network/interfaces, and I can bring it up with 'ifup eth0', but despite being listed as 'auto', it doesn't get brought up by ifup -a. Anyone have any idea why?
18:01<nsd>For reference, my interfaces file looks like so: http://pastebin.com/5AmE39kh
18:02<nsd>I feel like an idiot. Typo in the file.
18:02<nsd>nvm then
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18:02<n8ykh>don't you need 'auto' on the same line as 'eth0'?
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18:03<n8ykh>i see it says auth, not auto
18:03<nsd>n8ykh, yes, I realized there's a typo in the file. (I will attribute that to hard drive failure :o lots of power outages and the hd's are getting all messed up )
18:03<nsd>Thanks anyway, though!
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18:04<n8ykh>so what you are saying is that having auto instead of auth, it still does not work
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18:05<n8ykh>if i remember correct, while i was doing this, we are not supposed to have the device listed in interfaces if we want the device to be managed
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18:08<n8ykh>maybe that was a different file though, and it was a while ago so i am not sure anymore, sorry.
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18:36<cabeza>holzs
18:36<cabeza>hola
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18:44<bokikokiko>Hi :)
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18:45<bokikokiko>I've got a quick question: In which repository can I find the latest calmav version?
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18:46<centrx>repository? calmav?
18:46<bokikokiko>*clamav sorry :D
18:46<devil>bokikokiko: clamav?
18:46<devil>unstable or experimental
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18:47<n8ykh>did you use a search engine?
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18:47<devil>bokikokiko: sid has 0.98.7+dfsg-1
18:47<centrx>no you want to use jessie-updates
18:47<centrx>not upgrade your system to unstable
18:48<devil>centrx: that was not the question :)
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18:49<bokikokiko>n8ykh: yes, some ppl wrote that the main repository contains the latest version
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18:49<devil>bokikokiko: stable has 0.98.6+dfsg-1 0
18:50<centrx>use the updates suite
18:50<centrx>or whatever it's called
18:50<bokikokiko>devil: I've got wheezy. The latest version is 0.98.5 there. It's a bit old I think...
18:50<paxmark9>clamav pulling back a step latest program or virus definitions? http://www.clamav.net/doc/cvd.html
18:50<centrx>is none of this getting through
18:51<centrx>https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=clamav
18:51<centrx>,v clamav
18:51<judd>Package: clamav on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb6u3; squeeze-security-lts: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb6u4; wheezy: 0.98.5+dfsg-0+deb7u2; jessie: 0.98.6+dfsg-1; wheezy-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb7u1; jessie-updates: 0.98.7+dfsg-0+deb8u1; sid: 0.98.7+dfsg-1; stretch: 0.98.7+dfsg-1
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18:53<bokikokiko>paxmark9: the latest program
18:54<bokikokiko>centrx: thx! I'll use wheezy-updates then. Currently I only use wheezy/updates
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18:54<centrx>yeah that naming of the updates can be a little confusing, wheezy/updates with security.debian.org for security updates
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18:55<centrx>wheezy-updates with the regular URL for 'volatile' updates like clamav, programs that need updates, but which are not strictly fixes for security exploits
18:56<bokikokiko>centrx: Is there a possibility to use the repository only for clamav?
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18:57<centrx>What do you mean?
18:57<centrx>There are very few packages that use wheezy-updates or jessie-updates
18:57<somiaj>bokikokiko: the issue is you also have to deal with clamav's dependencies, and then if you pull in some core stuff from another repo, all sorts of trouble can happen.
18:57<somiaj>and things only live there until a point release, once a point release hits all the package drop down into jessie or wheezy.
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19:00<bokikokiko>somiaj: hm; ok, you're right. That would become complicated. So I'll wait until I'll update to jessie
19:00<bokikokiko>The antivirus is not that important in my case
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20:07<n>i can't remember my mysql root pass or my phpmyadmin pass and now I cant finish the install, it keeps bouncing around, abort, retry, retry(skip questions)
20:08<abrotman>dpkg: tell n about forgot mysql root password
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20:11<n>abrotman, thx
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20:14<n>bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
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20:15<themill>you're not supposed to feed all that to bash
20:15<n>themill, one at a time?
20:15<n>I keep getting locked up
20:15<themill>the sql is supposed to be given to mysql
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20:17<n>http://paste.debian.net/177257/
20:17<n>the second command locks my shell, nothing happens
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20:18<n>maybe cause I got the install waiting in the other shell?
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20:18<themill>no, you need to now connect to that mysqld
20:18<n>oh there we go, I did abort and couple times and now it works
20:19<n>themill, thx
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