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00:03<dedi>how to install all dependencies? even I already have it...
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00:04<dedi>*even if
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00:21<Ir0nsh007er>sudo apt install -f
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00:43<m>when i apt-get install enigmail, icedove disables it. this is in wheezy 7.8
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00:55<m>this is with iceweasel 31.7.0 and enigmail 1.7.2 installud through apt-get, in debian wheezy powerpc, 7.8
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00:57<m>in icedove > extensions i see enigmail greyed out and disabled with no option te enable it. why would the enigmail package from 7.8's repo be incompatible with 7.8,s version of icedove?
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01:47<Anto>Hola v:
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02:46<LadyAlissa>Need something?
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03:39<himanshu>Can we not install mongodb latest on debian?
03:39<himanshu>debian jessie?
03:40<allorder>did u try minimal install
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03:40<himanshu>no how is that?
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03:41<himanshu>Debian repo's have this only
03:41<musca>v mongodb --release jessie
03:41<musca>,v mongodb --release jessie
03:41<judd>Package: mongodb on amd64 -- jessie: 1:2.4.10-5
03:42<himanshu>it gives me 2.4.10
03:43<himanshu>judd: I installed this and it gave me 2.4.10 instead of 3.0 i.e the latest version.
03:43<judd>No package named 'installed' was found in jessie/amd64.
03:43<musca>well, there is no newer package neither in stretch/sid nor experimental
03:45<himanshu>musca: v mongodb --release jessie.. what is this? .. Im new to Debian
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03:55<musca>himanshu: that was a command for the judd bot ... for some version information.
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04:06<himanshu>oh I thought it was for me.. :D
04:07<himanshu>means latest version is not available for Debian Jessie and there is no way to install on my own?
04:07<himanshu>latest is 3.0
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04:09<himanshu>I did not knew judd was a bot.. hehe
04:11<premoboss>from where i can download the amd64 cd of debian 7? if i search "oldstable" o find debina 6, if i search "debian stable" i find debian 8.
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04:26<premoboss>valdyn, thanks
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05:25<naveko>hi all
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05:26<naveko>If a Debian partition is resized or the disk space is increased on a virtual machine, do I have to reinstall stuff like PHP and vhosts again?
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05:29<petn-randall>naveko: If you do it right, you don't. If you do it wrong, you loose the data. :)
05:29<dpkg>resize2fs is a filesystem resize utility for <ext2>/<ext3>/<ext4>, provided by the e2fsprogs package: man 8 resize2fs. Growing ext3/ext4 while online requires the resize_inode filesystem feature to be set (only possible during filesystem creation).
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05:29<Snni>Hello? I'm looking for some help? I am connected to wifi, but I can't access anything
05:29<Snni>Some help please?
05:30<Snni>I tried Google
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05:30<Snni>It didn't get me very far
05:30<naveko>petn-randall: the VMs are clean, so only Debian 8 is on them
05:31<naveko>petn-randall: it's just that the server provider delivered them with little disk space, one partition of 24 GB and 24 GB free space
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05:31<musca>naveko: lvm2 can add capacity to volumes.
05:32<naveko>musca: I would like to start installing packages and vhosts and stuff.. but the server provider won't be available to upsize the VM until next week.. just want to make sure I'm not doing double work
05:33<naveko>but judging from what you say it's no problem..
05:33<musca>naveko: clearly a support question for your provider
05:34<naveko>musca: I know…
05:35<naveko>musca: but if I can start installing packages and setting vhosts and stuff I would like to start now…
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05:37<petn-randall>naveko: 24 GB is a lot for installing packages. Technically it's possible, but we don't know how your provider plans to do the expansion of storage. You should ask.
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05:37<naveko>petn-randall: okay
05:38<naveko>petn-randall: musca: thanks
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05:43<Snni>Am I in the wrong place?
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05:43<SynrGy>Snni: if it's debian, you're in the right place.
05:44<Snni>I am using Debian
05:44<SynrGy>Snni: lspci -nn | grep -i network
05:44<SynrGy>give us the output of that
05:44<Snni>Just a sec
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05:46<Snni>02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002b] (rev 01)
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05:47<SynrGy>,pciid [168c:002b]
05:47<judd>[168c:002b] is 'AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with kernel module 'ath9k' in jessie. See also
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05:48<SynrGy>Snni: can you get pings back from anywhere by ip#?
05:48<SynrGy>Snni: e.g. ping
05:49<Snni>If I ping google it gives me icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unavailable
05:50<SynrGy>ip addr
05:50<SynrGy>no ip#?
05:51<Snni>I tried pinging that IP and it works btw
05:51<Snni>From icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unavailable is the whole line
05:52<SynrGy>that's an ipv4 link local address
05:52<SynrGy>it's not routable
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05:53<SynrGy>so DHCP failed
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05:53<SynrGy>my first guess would've been firmware, but your card doesn't require it
05:54<SynrGy>which release are you on?
05:54<Snni>It was working earlier
05:54<Snni>Um, just a sec
05:54<SynrGy>what if you drop the connection and connect again?
05:54<SynrGy>did you verify you're connected to the correct AP?
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05:55<Snni>Tried that
05:55<SynrGy>are other devices able to connect via wifi through the same AP?
05:55<Snni>Yeah, that is how I am using IRC
05:55<SynrGy>and that's wifi, not ethernet
05:56<SynrGy>you said "It was working earlier". what changed since then? any upgrades?
05:56<Snni>That's right.
05:56<Snni>Erm... Not that I can recall.
05:56<Snni>I just rebooted
05:57<Snni>It took a long time to start
05:57<Snni>There was a job delaying it
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05:57<Snni>it was network related I think
05:57<SynrGy>how long since your last reboot?
05:57<Snni>30 minutes
05:57<SynrGy>prior to that i mean, before you started having issues
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05:58<Snni>A few reboots back. It just appeared
05:58<SynrGy>did you perform any upgrades during the period between your last successful reboot and the reboot after which it failed, is what i'm driving at
05:59<Snni>Not as far as I know
05:59<SynrGy>generally things don't spontaneously break, except in the case of hardware failure. trying to isolate what changed.
05:59<SynrGy>you could try rebooting your AP
05:59<SynrGy>it's conceivable the DHCP server blew up
05:59<SynrGy>and you're only IRCing by virtue of a lease that hasn't expired yet
06:00<Snni>A start job is running for LSB: Raise Network interfaces
06:00<Snni>That didn't hapen before
06:00<Snni>It shows during boot
06:01<SynrGy>that doesn't tell us much.
06:01<Snni>I went into BIOS settings recently
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06:01<Snni>I reset it to default
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06:01<Snni>Could that have any relation?
06:02<Snni>It happened soon after
06:02<SynrGy>you could recheck your bios settings. what was the purpose of resetting them?
06:03<SynrGy>it seems unlikely to me, but i don't know your BIOS
06:03<Snni>I wanted to try installing another OS on another hardrive I have sitting around
06:03<Snni>It wasn't going very well
06:03<Snni>I wondered whether I had messed it up a few years back
06:03<Snni>BIOS that is
06:04<Snni>So I decided to try a reset
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06:06<SynrGy>you could have a look through 'journalctl' and get whatever messages relate to starting network
06:06<SynrGy>do you have any iptables rules installed? a firewall such as shorewall, etc.?
06:07<Snni>I entered that into terminal and it gave me "No journal files found"
06:07<Snni>Not that I know of
06:07<SynrGy>as root
06:07<Snni>Oh wait
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06:08<SynrGy>so iptables -vL should show three chains, INPUT, FORWARD, OUTPUT, all with policy ACCEPT and no rules in them
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06:09<Snni>That is what it says here
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06:11<SynrGy>journalctl -u NetworkManager
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06:12<SynrGy>i understand without network this will be difficult. can you copy the output to USB, take it to the system that has network, and paste at
06:12<Snni>I'll try that
06:12<SynrGy>assuming it produces anything at all
06:12<Snni>It does
06:12<SynrGy>using gnome?
06:13<SynrGy>but XFCE uses NM, i guess
06:13<Snni>I think so, yes
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06:14<SynrGy>and you didn't also install a second network manager like wicd
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06:14<naveko>is PHP 5.4 not available on Jessie?
06:14<SynrGy>Snni: dpkg -l network-manager wicd
06:14<SynrGy>,v php5
06:14<judd>Package: php5 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts:; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; stretch: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.9+dfsg-1
06:15<SynrGy>naveko: jessie has 5.6
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06:15<naveko>SynrGy: is there no way to use 5.4?
06:15<SynrGy>naveko: nothing supported, no
06:16<SynrGy>naveko: what would you like to accomplish?
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06:17<naveko>SynrGy: We're running Drupal sites and I am trying to configure a new VM on Debian 8
06:17<naveko>I am not sure it's going to work with PHP 5.6
06:17<SynrGy>naveko: so you need to defer an upgrade to latest drupal?
06:19<SynrGy>interesting. drupal has no dependency on any specific version of PHP5 ...
06:19<SynrGy>so i don't understand what the issue is
06:19<naveko>SynrGy: If I want to be sure the Drupal sites remain fully operational, I think I can't use Debian 8 yet…
06:19<SynrGy>naveko: are you using Debian packages of drupal?
06:19<SynrGy>are you using any third-party php5 libraries?
06:20<Snni> not to interupt, sorry please continue, but here is the log
06:20<naveko>SynrGy: No, I am trying to configure new instances of the presently running server
06:20<jalalsfs>Can I let aptitude choose fast a mirror automatically?
06:20<SynrGy>naveko: ok. and you have problems? if so, please share.
06:20<naveko>SynrGy: So we can switch the IP address when the new environment is working fully
06:20<dpkg>To have <APT> automatically select a mirror close to you, use the Geo-IP redirector in your sources.list "deb jessie main". See for more information. The redirector uses HTTP 302 redirects not DNS to serve content so is safe to use with Google DNS. See also <which>. This service is identical to
06:21<SynrGy>Snni: i'll have a look
06:21<Snni>Cool, thanks
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06:21<naveko>SynrGy: I guess I'll just try it..
06:22<naveko>It says 5.4 or higher… we'll see what happens :)
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06:26<SynrGy>Snni: curiously, it sees two APs, 'StrangeLiquid' (open) and 'Garrett' (wpa). you are connected to the first one at line 99, then the second one at line 164. both have a DHCP server, and both give you the same IP#, ...
06:26<Snni>Theyt are the same AP
06:26<SynrGy>naveko: yes. as i said, the debian package has no specific requirement for php5 version
06:27<Snni>I created StrangeLiquid about a year ago as a hidden network for some reason
06:27<Snni>I tried to connect to it out of desperation
06:27<Snni>Same access point.
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06:27<SynrGy>Snni: i see. so it's not an authorization problem. however, you said you had a link local IP#. that doesn't jive with the output here.
06:28<SynrGy>Snni: so far as networkmanager is concerned, you are connected correctly and wlan0 set as default
06:28<SynrGy>Snni: do you have anything in /etc/network/interfaces?
06:28<SynrGy>Snni: please show the complete output of 'ip addr' and also of 'ip route'
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06:31<Snni1>I got disconnected
06:31<Snni1>No idea why
06:33<Snni1>SynrGy: I'm still here
06:33<Snni1>Sorry about the connection issue
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06:39<SynrGy>Snni1: i suspect you actually do get connected properly, but subsequently something is bumping you over to a link local address, which is why you can't connect to the internet
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06:39<SynrGy>Snni1: 'journalctl -u avahi-autoipd' may help
06:40<SynrGy>(in addition to the other stuff i asked for)
06:40<Snni1>I'm on it
06:40<SynrGy>i haven't much longer here. i am making breakfast, then going out for a walk
06:40<SynrGy>about 10 or 15m
06:40<Snni1>I'll be quick, sorry
06:40<SynrGy>with luck, we solve it in that timeframe, or else someone else helps
06:40<SynrGy>Snni1: no rush. there are plenty of capable helpers here
06:43<SynrG>On my cell whilst making eggs :)
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06:46<SynrG>What's the bridge for? A vm?
06:46<Snni>I was messing around with openvpn
06:47<Snni>Not much success there either
06:47<SynrG>I think that's what broke it
06:47<Snni>It was working even after I messed around, and a rebbot too I think
06:47<Snni>But you are brobably right
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06:47<Snni>It can't be anything else
06:47<SynrG>Undo that
06:48<Snni>Not sure how though
06:49<Snni>How to undo it that is
06:49<SynrG>Make a guess based on what steps you took to set it up
06:49<Snni>Installed openvpn, and told it to open a .ovpn file
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06:50<Snni>I messed around with a K something interface for vpn too
06:50<Snni>It iinstalled a huge nu,mber of dependencies
06:50<Snni>I'm assuming that that was
06:50<Snni>another DE
06:50<Snni>I removed it
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06:51<SynrGy>i see. that's why i asked earlier what changed recently
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06:52<SynrGy>this is a whole lot of 'somethings' :)
06:52<Snni>It was working afterwards
06:52<Snni>Even after a reboot
06:52<Snni>I assumed it was a seperate issu
06:53<SynrGy>could be boot sequencing
06:53<SynrGy>that can produce a race case
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06:53<Snni>I removed "openvpn"
06:53<Snni>No effect
06:53<naveko>is PHP APC not shipping with Jessie?
06:54<SynrGy>,v php5-apc
06:54<judd>No package named 'php5-apc' was found in amd64.
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06:54<Snni>Unfortunatley I'm not sure what boot-sequencing is
06:54<SynrGy>,v php-apc
06:54<judd>Package: php-apc on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.1.3p1-2; squeeze-backports: 3.1.9-0.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.1.13-1; stretch: 4.0.7-1; jessie: 4.0.7-1; sid: 4.0.7-1
06:54<SynrGy>naveko: seems it is
06:55<SynrGy>but, version 4? don't know if that relates to php 4 ...
06:55<SynrGy>ah, transitional package.
06:55<SynrGy>depends on php5-apcu
06:55<SynrGy>,v php5-apcu
06:55<judd>Package: php5-apcu on amd64 -- jessie: 4.0.7-1; sid: 4.0.7-1; stretch: 4.0.7-1
06:56<naveko>SynrGy: I'm not sure.. I guess 4.07 should be okay…
06:56<naveko>I typed 'apt-get install php5-apc'
06:56<naveko>but it should be 'apt-get install php-apc'
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06:58<SynrGy>Snni: if you manually created a boot script in order to set up openvpn, if the boot script does not specify correctly when, in the order of things coming up at boot time, it should execute, it could cause problems
06:59<SynrGy>Snni: removing (and even purging) openvpn would not remove anything you manually installed afterwards.
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06:59<SynrGy>Snni: so review the steps you did, the files you created, and make sure everything is properly cleaned up from your openvpn experiment
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06:59<Snni>I don't think I set up any boot scripts
07:00<SynrGy>knowing the contents of /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/network/interfaces.d/ would be useful to other helpers here
07:00<SynrGy>i'm heading out now
07:00<Snni>OK then
07:00<Snni>Thanks for all your help!
07:01<SynrGy>something you could try:
07:01<SynrGy>ifdown br0
07:01<SynrGy>but for a more permanent solution (if that indeed works) then you need to clean up whatever is still setting it up
07:02<Snni>Dear god
07:02<Snni>It works!!
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07:02<Snni>Thank you!
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07:03<SynrGy>Snni: great. that will aid greatly in sorting out how to fix it permanently :)
07:03<SynrGy>good luck. later
07:04<Snni>Thanks again for all the help!
07:04<Snni>Have a great day!
07:04<SynrG>You too
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07:37<orjan>Hi, on a newly installed jessie I have got problems with lockups ( screen, mouse, keys ) on previously stable hw. No obvious info in logs. Hints?
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07:42<orjan>I can trigger the lockup by loading a big pdf, buts it locks up by other reasons too like dual screen but the not imidiatly only increases the rate
07:42<orjan>So guesses on load..
07:45<orjan>I've looked at bugs on nouveau, but my lockups doesn't match any open bug
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07:47<emiliollbb>orjan, the lockup are permanent, I mean, you need to push the reset button to recover?
07:47<emiliollbb>I experimented some of this in a new jessie machine
07:47<orjan>no it reboots after about 5 s with scrambled screen that is corrected after redraw
07:48<orjan>rebots by itself
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07:51<emiliollbb>orjan, i would do some ram testing
07:52<emiliollbb>this sound to me like hw problem...
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07:56<orjan>ok will try, on the other hand it's been stabke for long time
07:56<orjan>but worth trying
07:56<tremon>may be a driver causing a gpu lockup
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07:57<orjan>tremon: that's my guess too
07:57<tremon>do you have a second machine to test if the machine is still reachable over ssh? probably can't test that though if it reboots within 5s
07:58<orjan>yes I have but as you say it's a tight window to hit
07:58<tremon>what's the hardware? if you're using open drivers, you may want to ask #dri on freenode for pointers
07:59<orjan>it's an old thinkpad with optimus, so both intel and nouveau drivers..
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07:59<orjan>an t61
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08:00<orjan>tremon: yes uses open drivers, will check on #dri, thanks
08:01<tremon>that's not exactly a rare machine, which makes hardware fault more likely. But optimus is not the best supported hardware under linux either
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08:04<orjan>tremon: yes, makes sence, I kept it's mostly because the keyboard is nice, but it might start to show it's age
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08:05<orjan>but I've used it at work 5 days a wwek so the timing with installing jessie...
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08:06<orjan>and lockup apearing
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08:35<naveko>is it possible to downgrade from Jessie to Wheezy?
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08:43<towo`>naveko, not realy
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09:30<PaulePanter>Hi. How do I make gcc-5 the default gcc in Debian Sid/unstable?
09:30<PaulePanter>The package `gcc` seems to ship a symlink /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-4.9 currently.
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09:43*splint28 is a pink bunny ;)
09:45<guardian>what's the deal with package being added and removed?
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09:51<centrx>guardian, Probably in preparation for the release. If you look closely, you'll see a reference to this bug identifier:
09:51<judd>Bug in (closed): «RM: -- RoM; release cycle is too fast for stable»; severity: minor; opened: 2015-03-30; last modified: 2015-05-02.
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09:53<guardian>consequence is that it's not even in jessie backports contrary to instructions on
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09:57<centrx>guardian, You can try installing the version in testing onto current jessie
09:57<centrx>guardian, You can also try doing a source-backport, /msg dpkg ssb
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10:29<Nyctophilia>hello guys, would be great if someone could help me out, im getting crazy over this, even if it is a simple task... im running the current Raspbian Image on my Raspberry Pi 2 with kodi on it, and i want it to get idiot proof. the pi should run 24/7, because it also acts as downloadserver (pyload) - now if you exit kodi over the gui, you get back to the CLI. is there some way to automatically
10:29<Nyctophilia>check if kodi-standalone is down and restart it? this thing should run at my parents house and even if i tell them to not shutdown kodi, they will...
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10:35<peter1138>Raspbian isn't Deiban.
10:35<peter1138>Or Debian.
10:36<Brigo>Nyctophilia, are you using systemd?
10:38<Nyctophilia>there is probably systemd installed
10:38<Nyctophilia>but i don't know how to use it exactly
10:39<Nyctophilia>im not getting any smarter with guides on the net about systemd and other tools
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10:41<Brigo>Nyctophilia, systemd has a respawn option for these units.
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10:42<Brigo>Nyctophilia, from systemd.service: Restart=
10:42<Brigo> Configures whether the service shall be restarted when the service process exits, is killed, or a
10:42<Brigo> timeout is reached.
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10:50<Nyctophilia>can you help me setting it up step by step? im not that familiar with linux systems yet
10:50<Brigo>Nyctophilia, i could try, but i am quite new to sysemd too.
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10:51<Brigo>Nyctophilia, what is the service you want to modify so it get restarted?
10:51<Nyctophilia>one second
10:52<Nyctophilia>- /usr/bin/kodi-standalone
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10:53<Brigo>so there should be a unit file named kodi-standalone.service.
10:53<Brigo>try to find it in /lib/systemd/system
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10:54<Nyctophilia>it's not there
10:54<Nyctophilia>google says there is no kodi-standalone.service by standard configuration
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10:56<Brigo>Nyctophilia, then check /run/systemd/generator.late/
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10:57<Brigo>when there isn't .service file systemd generates it at boot time from the systemv init file.
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11:01<Nyctophilia>no systemd under /run/
11:02<Brigo>Nyctophilia, are you sure you are using systemd?
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11:03<Brigo>i know you are using raspdebian -not debian- so it could be you have to find the unit by yourself.
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11:17<realitygaps>Nyctophilia: there is #raspbian on freenode
11:18<Nyctophilia>i know, asking there also
11:19<Autofire>Hi! I've been getting this error since I did a dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie. Whenever firefox wants to see if it's the default browser, I get an error window saying this 3 times: Configuration server couldn't be contacted "D BUS" error Message did not receive a reply timeout by message bus
11:19<Autofire>I've googled around and found this: However, I don't know which gstreamer package to remove because there are several different gstreamer packages. That being said, I wonder if this is caused by gstreamer, since I think my error is different from the one on that thread. The strange part is that soundconverter (just installed today) refuses to run due to the error. It gives the same error firef
11:19<Autofire>ox gives.
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11:20<Autofire>Well, actually soundconverter gives a slightly though potentially more useful "glib.GError: Configuration server couldn't be contacted: D-BUS error: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
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11:27<jack>Will anyone please send me a million bucks? I could really use the cash...
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11:29<jack>Is it easier to cp files using a cli or gui?
11:30<jack>I mean if you have a lot of files to move and organize. Would it be better to use the terminal or the graphical way?
11:30<jack>I am just now starting to learn the terminal and it seems like that would be the preferable way of organizing files, but maybe not?
11:32<jack>no takers huh?
11:32<jack>K, well..
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11:34<jack>What is so great about raid? I mean what makes it better then using rsync or something to backup files either way you are going to use the same amount of space. Does it basically boil down to hot swapping? That with raid you could hot swap a failling drive while simply backing up will cost you some down time?
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11:38<valdyn>jack: obviously the restore part is not necessary with raid
11:38<peter1138>raid is about availability, not backups.
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11:44<Nyctophilia>and everyone else
11:44<Nyctophilia>Thanks for your help guys, I've solved it now by disabling the Power/Exitbutton by creating advancedsettings.xml under the kodi userdata folder with the following parameters: <advancedsettings>
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12:08<Brigo>Nyctophilia, nice :)
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12:12<Autofire>jack: sometimes it can take a while to get a response on IRC. Anyway...I think you should just use whichever method of copying things that you are more used to. (Unless you want practice with another that you aren't so used it.)
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12:14<Autofire>That being said, if you have many files you want to copy/move at once that all have similar filenames, it would be easier on the command line because you could use wildcards. (For example, "cp apple* fruits/apples/" would copy all of the files that start with 'apple' into the dir fruits/apples)
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13:24<EequalsMCsquared>Hello, how can I create files with names resulting from each line of a grep output?
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13:27<bsirius>EequalsMCsquared, grep string file.txt | xargs touch
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13:33<EequalsMCsquared>bsirius: perfect. thank you.
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13:35<guilherme>Hi, Everytime I try to open libreoffice I got this error: Warning: failed to launch javaldx - java may not function correctly. Does anyone know how to fix it? Thanks
13:38<bsirius>guilherme, do you have java installed?
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13:40<guilherme>bsirius, yes I have. In fact I use other softwares in java and I did not see any problem, just libreoffice
13:41<guilherme>just libreoffice so far :)
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13:41<bsirius>guilherme, can you paste a complete error output?
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13:42<guilherme>I used to have the experiemntal systesm (hardwere problems) then I decided to use the Jessie and "dowgrade" a couple packages in order to do taht
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13:42<guilherme>ok, Warning: failed to launch javaldx - java may not function correctly \\ /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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13:43<bsirius>guilherme, please use pastebin don't paste in the channel, please do "locate"
13:46<guilherme>ok, I just pasted here because it is just two lines
13:46<guilherme>It was found:
13:47<bsirius>guilherme, ok can you search for file see if that exists and if it does, can you paste the contents of the file please?
13:51<guilherme>I tryed the locate and find commands , but was not found
13:52<bsirius>guilherme, try "find / -name*"
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13:54<guilherme>the same as before,
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13:55<bsirius>guilherme, okay that's a bit awkward, try removing your user profile then
13:56<bsirius>guilherme, there should be a folder called .libreoffice in /home/$USER somewhere
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13:59<guilherme>I did not find such folder. I looked into /home/guilherme/.local/share/ and nothing about libreoffice too
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14:02<jack>Autofire: I am learning how to lurk :) I think I want to learn more about using the terminal in linux. So, I kind of just wanted to see if anyone had a real preference on how to copy paste. I think that bulk copying and all those wildcards or whatever can be useful. I just got to learn how to do it.
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14:02<bsirius>guilherme, ok can you search in /opt/libreoffice for a file named bootstraprc, can you open it and see where the profile file is located
14:04<guilherme>there is no /opt/libreoffice on my system
14:05<ciko>#join gimp
14:05<ciko>..sorry... my mistake :(
14:06<bsirius>guilherme, try /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/bootstraprc
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14:06<bsirius>guilherme, and paste the content please
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14:17<bsirius>guilherme, can you do "sudo ldconfig"
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14:18<guilherme>I am logged as root and ldconfig retun nothing
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14:19<bsirius>guilherme, that's okay, can you run libreoffice again please
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14:20<guilherme>the same error as before
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14:20<bsirius>guilherme, do you know how to use strace?
14:21<guilherme>In fact no
14:22<bsirius>guilherme, what I think it is, since you've done changes to your system some files have changed location, you could strace libreoffice binary file to see where it is looking for files and then compare to where they actually are on the system and fix those misconfigs but I can't do this remotely, it will take forever, the easiest way for you is to reinstall libreoffice, is this something you can do or not?
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14:25<guilherme>ok, I installed the strace and tried "strace libreoffice" I am looking at the results. I will try to see if I find something.
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14:25<bsirius>guilherme, try "strace -t -o strace.txt ./LIBREOFFICE 2>&1 | less"
14:26<bsirius>guilherme, then you can do "grep ENOENT strace.txt"
14:27<guilherme>The first command returns:
14:27<guilherme>just one line
14:27<bsirius>guilherme, you can paste the strace.txt output in pastebin and someone can take a look for you or I can do that later this evening because I have to run in a few min
14:27<bsirius>guilherme, no change LIBREOFFICE with whatever the executable is called
14:28<guilherme>ok, ok, sorry
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14:28<guilherme>ok, do not worry, thanks a lot. You halped me alot. I will try those ideas, then I try to come back here
14:29<bsirius>guilherme, okay I'll be back in a few hours in case you still haven't resolved this, maybe I can give you a hand with this
14:29<guilherme>thanks a lot
14:30<bsirius>guilherme, no worries mate, I didn't really help, see you later
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14:34<guilherme>no, you helped, thanks, see you. :)
14:35<guilherme>bsirius, I reinstalled the libreoffice, now it is working again :D Thanks a lot!!!!
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14:41<naveko>hi all
14:41<naveko>I am trying to partition some free space using cfdisk, but somehow I can't mount the partition
14:42<naveko>it says the device doesn't exit
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15:10<naveko>after partitioning with cfdisk the new partition is simply not seen.. what could be the problem?
15:11<somiaj>check dmesg
15:11<somiaj>did you actually write the partition table or just modify it?
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15:11<naveko>somiaj: I am connected through ssh and ran cfdisk
15:11<naveko>so I created a partition using 'write'
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15:12<naveko>in cfdisk it is called /dev/sda2 now
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15:12<naveko>but I can't mount it
15:12<naveko>it doesn't show with df -h
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15:14<paranoiko_koalaki>debian 8 live asks for login and password when running. would it be possible to tell me the exact user name and pass?
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15:15<somiaj>naveko: again check dmesg
15:15<somiaj>naveko: see what the kernel says about the device.
15:16<somiaj>paranoiko_koalaki: it shouldn't, it should automatically log you in as a user and give you full sudo privalges with nopass
15:16<naveko>somiaj: I don't know where to look.. it's a long list
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15:17<Marcin_PL>Hello. Quick question: where is shnsplit now? It isn't in cuetools anymore…
15:17<somiaj>paranoiko_koalaki: but once you goot up, just use sudo to make the password what ever you want. (I've looked it up once, but forgot it)
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15:19<Marcin_PL>Oh, my fault. shntool got it. :/
15:19<garry>hello ?
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15:34<ary>hi guys. I got a huge problem. I toke a friend computer to install Debian on it, but he doesn't like. So he ask me to put Windows 7 back. The problem is I am using debian and have no windows machine in my home. I am trying to make an windows 7 usb stick and it wont boot. How do I create a Windows 7 pendriver installer in Debian Jessie???? Sound like foolish ask this here, but trust-me. I am using Debian and had no pretend to go back to windows, never. It is just
15:34<ary> for bussines purpose.
15:35<Marcin_PL>Couldn't You use a DVD?
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15:37<Marcin_PL>ary: up() and well, look here:
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17:03<twoface88>hi guys ! can't install nginx with memcached.. debian 7.1
17:03<twoface88>i've tried nginx nginx-full nginx-extras, nginx -V doesn't show memcached !
17:03<twoface88>i have memcached and libmemcached-dev installed
17:03<twoface88>please help
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17:05<bsirius>twoface88, have you restarted php?
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17:05<twoface88>bsirius: it's a Django project.
17:06<bsirius>twoface88, do "php -i | grep memcache"
17:06<twoface88>bsirius: sorry, don't have php... it's nginx + memcached + python only ..
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17:10<bsirius>twoface88, can you paste your nginx config output to pastebin?
17:11<twoface88>bsirius: I've figured it out .. I didn't had set $memcached_key $uri; variable so memcached wasn't loading ..
17:11<twoface88>bsirius: thank you !
17:11<bsirius>twoface88, no worries, that's a common issue or people mistype their $memcached_pass directive value, glad to hear it's resolved
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17:13<twoface88>bsirius: ohh i see ) thanks again, have a nice day!
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17:13<bsirius>twoface88, you too :)
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17:17<birch>Where would I find info on specific source code changes from wheezy to jessie?
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17:20<towo`>birch, you're kidding, or?
17:20<birch>not really
17:21<birch>The Wheezy instructions don't work in Jessie so I want to see what changed.
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17:22<sney>so you'd be looking for kernel changes specifically
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17:22<draxdeveloper>hello, when i mount a pendrive its mount as root
17:23<draxdeveloper>so i cant acess it on the flie manager
17:23<towo`>since all has changed, your 1st question was impossible to get an answer
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17:24<bsirius>draxdeveloper, do "id -a" verify you have permissions to mount devices as user
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17:25<draxdeveloper>uid=1000(passarinho) gid=1000(passarinho) grupos=1000(passarinho),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),105(scanner),110(netdev),116(bluetooth)
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17:26<bsirius>draxdeveloper, that looks fine, you're looking for plugdev, can you unplug your device and do "tail -f /var/log/messages" and then mount it again and see what it says
17:27<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you then paste that output plus the content of /etc/fstab in pastebin?
17:27<draxdeveloper>permission denied
17:27<birch>sney, yes
17:27<birch>sney, where? tyvm
17:27<bsirius>draxdeveloper, where do you get that message?
17:28<bsirius>draxdeveloper, I mean what are you doing?
17:28<draxdeveloper>i used the tail command
17:28<sney>birch: there's a git repository for the debian-specific linux kernel. I'm pretty sure it's on alioth. I don't remember the name but that should be enough information for you to find it
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17:28<bsirius>draxdeveloper, oh you need use sudo
17:29<draxdeveloper>a ok
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17:31<draxdeveloper>by the way, is not finished the process, stoped on the last line and is still there doing dont knwo what
17:31<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you also paste the content of /etc/fstab
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17:31<bsirius>draxdeveloper, if your device has been mounted you can close the tail because it won't close by itself
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17:38<draxdeveloper>forget the name of the othe reader, i knoe there is vi
17:39<bsirius>draxdeveloper, nano?
17:39<bsirius>draxdeveloper, you don't need to open it with a file editor, just use "less"
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17:41*bsirius needs to use the loo real quick
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17:51<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you do "ls -l /media/"
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17:54<bsirius>draxdeveloper, what is your username on the system?
17:55<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you do "sudo chown passarinho:passarinho /media/usb0"
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17:59<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you unmount and mount the device again
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18:03<draxdeveloper>hum... now linux is not fouding it
18:03<bsirius>draxdeveloper, okay change it back to root:root and paste the output of "/etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf" and "grep passarinho /etc/passwd"
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18:06<draxdeveloper>usbmont.conf not found
18:07<bsirius>draxdeveloper, well that is strange, can you do "find / -name usbmount.conf"
18:07<bsirius>draxdeveloper, add sudo before the command
18:08<draxdeveloper>i am doing it in a root terminal
18:09<bsirius>draxdeveloper, I hope you're not manually mounting your pendrive as root
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18:10<draxdeveloper>no, i just put the stick in the notebook
18:10<draxdeveloper>but its stopped to found the usb
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18:12<bsirius>draxdeveloper, did you find that file?
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18:12<draxdeveloper>no, its returned nothing not even a file not found message
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18:13<birch>sney, thanks
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18:16<bsirius>draxdeveloper, well that's odd, can anyone else explain the lack of usbmount.conf file?
18:16<draxdeveloper>it was mouting before... So maybe a reboot will help?
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18:17<bsirius>well you can mount it manually, "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0"
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18:19<draxdeveloper>just the root can do this
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18:20<draxdeveloper>and if i do with root, its says that the special dispositive sdb1 do not exist
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18:20<draxdeveloper>i will try to reboot, just a moment
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18:25<draxdeveloper>ok, same thing
18:25<bsirius>draxdeveloper, same thing what, what are you seeing?
18:26<draxdeveloper>linux still is not fouding my pendrive
18:26<bsirius>draxdeveloper, do "mount" do you see it there?
18:27<draxdeveloper>if i mount its says that i have to mount with root
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18:27<bsirius>draxdeveloper, if you plug the device is and do "mount" do you see it there?
18:28<draxdeveloper>mount: special device / dev / sdb1 does not exist
18:28<draxdeveloper>the device is pluged
18:29<bsirius>draxdeveloper, did you do just "mount" without any options or anything else?
18:30<draxdeveloper>hum... thats weird... Its founds my cellphone
18:31<draxdeveloper>sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0
18:32<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you do "mount" without any options, can you see the device there?
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18:34<draxdeveloper>i an not founding it
18:35<draxdeveloper>like i said... My cellphone its working so its not a problem with any usb, and earlier its was fouding
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18:36<bsirius>draxdeveloper, are you mounting a USB stick or a mobile phone with an SD card?
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18:38<draxdeveloper>a usb stick
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18:38<draxdeveloper>i am just saying that its finding my mobile phone but not my usb stick
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18:39<bsirius>draxdeveloper, okay so after you mounted it manually, are you able to cd into /media/usb0?
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18:40<bsirius>draxdeveloper, does your USB stick work in Windows or Mac, can you verify that?
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18:40<draxdeveloper>like i said... was working here earlier
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18:41<bsirius>draxdeveloper, there's always the possibility of USB drive failure of filesystem corruption so you might need to format it
18:41<draxdeveloper>i cant check it, i just can check into de boot
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18:42<draxdeveloper>oh man... its not even mine this pendrive...
18:42<draxdeveloper>well, but i still having the problem that everything that i put here is mounted by the root
18:42<bsirius>draxdeveloper, don't panic, can you plug it into another machine?
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18:45<draxdeveloper>i will look if i find one
18:45<bsirius>draxdeveloper, is your drive empty or do you have files on it?
18:47<draxdeveloper>it have files
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18:48<draxdeveloper>the pendrive its working in another machine
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18:49<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you go to /etc and do "cp -p fstab fstab~" and then edit fstab file and after /dev/sdb1,user,noauto add ",uid=1000" and save the file, then move to / and do "umount /media/usb0" and try to mount it again
18:49<bsirius>draxdeveloper, you must not take out the pendrive without unmounting it first, that's bad
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18:52<draxdeveloper>in another line or in the same line?
18:52<bsirius>draxdeveloper, same line, just continue
18:52<bsirius>draxdeveloper, instead of "rw,user,noauto" put "rw,user,noauto,uid=1000"
18:53<jack>I can't get samba to work for nothing! all the files show up but it keeps asking for a password. I set up the smbpasswd but it still won't let me access the files.
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18:54<draxdeveloper>its not mounted
18:55<draxdeveloper>an then mount: special device / dev / sdb1 does not exist
18:55<bsirius>draxdeveloper, okay revert the changes then go to your other machine and copy all file over and format the pendrive then plug it back in yout linux machine and tail the messages log file
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18:57<draxdeveloper>in fact, i tested in a dvd player that accepts usb
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18:58<bsirius>draxdeveloper, if you plug the device in can you see it if you do "lsblk"
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18:59<draxdeveloper>no, nothing
18:59<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you comment out the /dev/sdb1 line in /etc/fstab and try again?
19:00<bsirius>draxdeveloper, and always do "fail -f /var/log/messages" when you plug it in so you can see what is it doing
19:00<draxdeveloper>wait, is not saved the previous changes
19:02<bsirius>draxdeveloper, did you make a backup of the file?
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19:03<draxdeveloper>the fail command was not found
19:03<bsirius>it was a typo, sry
19:03<draxdeveloper>May 23 19:51:14 luli kernel: [ 1771.585197] usb 2-2: new full-speed USB device number 14 using xhci_hcd
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19:04<draxdeveloper>May 23 20:03:58 luli kernel: [ 2535.224738] usb 2-3: Device not responding to setup address.
19:04<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you see it now in "lsblk" and "mount"
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19:04<bsirius>draxdeveloper, oh sry
19:05<draxdeveloper>and i cant still find it... Its seems that linux understands that i pluged it, but there is a problem in setup adress?
19:05<bsirius>draxdeveloper, I think this might be a hardware issue
19:06<draxdeveloper>well, the pendrive is from multilaser
19:07<draxdeveloper>so maybe there is not a support to it?
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19:07<bsirius>draxdeveloper, no it doesn't mean it's failing it's just that linux has issues connecting all the USB ports
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19:08<draxdeveloper>hum... But i am using a usb mouse and i pluged my cellphone and another cellphone
19:08<draxdeveloper>the problem is just with this pendrive
19:08<bsirius>draxdeveloper, I'm puzzled as I don't know much about that, is it possible that you turn off your PC and leave it a minute, then turn it on again?
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19:10<draxdeveloper>well, i will try it
19:10<bsirius>draxdeveloper, give it a min or two, then turn it back on
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19:24*bsirius wonders what happened
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19:26<jack>yay! I got samba to work!!! turns out that you have to replace user with your hostname... Who'd of guessed...
19:26<jack>I am going to go far with linux you just wait and see.
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19:27<bsirius>jack, nice
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19:30<draxdeveloper>well, nothing changed
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19:30<bsirius>draxdeveloper, what did the log file say?
19:31<draxdeveloper>May 23 20:25:54 luli kernel: [ 299.646879] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged
19:31<draxdeveloper>and then
19:31<draxdeveloper>May 23 20:29:30 luli kernel: [ 515.007190] usb 2-3: new full-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd
19:31<draxdeveloper>and just it
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19:32<draxdeveloper>i cant get it... Linux is founding the USB device
19:32<bsirius>draxdeveloper, do you see your device in "lsblk" and "mount"
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19:33<draxdeveloper>just the sda and sr0
19:34<bsirius>draxdeveloper, restore your fstab and also do "lsusb" and see if you can see it there
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19:35<draxdeveloper>how i retore the fstab?
19:36<bsirius>draxdeveloper, go to /etc and make sure you have both "fstab" and "fstab~" files, then do "rm fstab" and "mv fstab~ fstab"
19:38<bsirius>draxdeveloper, then paste the entire messages log since you rebooted the machine
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19:39<draxdeveloper>the log of lsusb?
19:40<bsirius>draxdeveloper, no /var/log/messages because dmesg will log only boot messages and everything that happens after your system has booted it will log into messages file
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19:42<draxdeveloper>there is no way to filer it? there is stuff from may 18
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19:43<draxdeveloper>a lot of stuff by the way
19:43<bsirius>draxdeveloper, nevermind, open /var/log/messages and copy the entire block since you plugged in your pendrive, should be last 20 or so lines
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19:44<draxdeveloper>i opened it, but the thing is huge! I cant open with a visual text editor
19:44<bsirius>draxdeveloper, do "tail -n 50 | less" and copy
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19:45<bsirius>draxdeveloper, that should be "tail -n 50 /var/log/messages | less"
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19:45<draxdeveloper>forget, used page down... i will post it
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19:45<bsirius>draxdeveloper, just tail it
19:46<bsirius>draxdeveloper, or do shift+g if you're less-ing it, that will take you to the end of the file
19:46<Barberbill>is there an LXLE channel for its distro
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19:48<SynrG>i guess #lxle @
19:49<SynrG>don't know if that's official or not
19:49<bsirius>draxdeveloper, is "May 23 20:43:08 luli kernel: [ 1333.216117] usb 2-3: new full-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd" this after you plugged it in?
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19:52<bsirius>draxdeveloper, BTW "mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged" this doesn't look good, you should "apt-get instal mcelog" and after next reboot check "/var/log/mcelog" to see what's going on because you have a hardware failure somewhere
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19:57<bsirius>draxdeveloper, "May 23 20:43:08" is this when you plugged your pendrive in?
19:57<draxdeveloper>let me see
19:58<draxdeveloper>my notebook have a usv 3.0 and a usb 2.0, maybe this is the full or high speed
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19:59<bsirius>draxdeveloper, you should be able to see it, can you plug it in and paste all these into one pastebin together, "lsusb" "lsblk" "fdisk -l" "mount"
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19:59<bsirius>draxdeveloper, plug it another usb port if you have a spare one
20:00<Barberbill>thanks SynrG
20:00<draxdeveloper>i tried in all my usb ports
20:00<draxdeveloper>including the one with the mouse
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20:05<bsirius>draxdeveloper, do "grep sdb /etc/fstab" and copy the line here in the channel
20:06<draxdeveloper> /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
20:07<Barberbill>I guess that LxLe has no support help its a shame it is a good distro :(
20:07<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you cd into /media/usb0 at all?
20:09<SynrG>Barberbill: consider using a distro that does have support, like, i dunno ... debian?
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20:10<draxdeveloper>bsirius i an on it
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20:10<bsirius>draxdeveloper, if you "ls" is it empty?
20:10<Barberbill>SynrG Well Lxle uses less resources and has been running real good on all my machines
20:11<SynrG>and is OT for here, so i don't know why you're here complaining about it
20:11<Barberbill>even off a usb thumb drive
20:11<SynrG>unless it's to convince you to use debian instead
20:12<Barberbill>I ll give it a try
20:12<draxdeveloper>there is a usb folder (without the 0)
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20:12<SynrG>Barberbill: use lxde on jessie
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20:12<SynrG>!install lxde
20:12<dpkg>To install <LXDE> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install lxde». To install using Debian-Installer (if not using LXDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > LXDE > Install".
20:13<Barberbill>will it support andriod usb plug in like storage device
20:13<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you do "umount /media/usb0" and then do "mkdir /media/usbstick" and then "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbstick"
20:13<SynrG>it should
20:14<draxdeveloper>bsirius is not mouting
20:14<draxdeveloper>not mounted
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20:15<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you do "lspci -v | grep HCI" and see if your USB is there
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20:15<Barberbill>I tried linuxmint 17 cinnamon Rebecca and it works fine with the andriod auto mount and all but it is so slow
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20:17<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you do "lspci -v | grep HCI" and see if your USB is there
20:17<draxdeveloper>bsirius 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC (rev 04) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
20:17<bsirius>draxdeveloper, okay cool
20:17<draxdeveloper>00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series USB EHCI #1 (rev 04) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
20:17<Barberbill>by the way i have use 32bit on all my computers
20:18<Barberbill>they are old
20:18<SynrG>sure. choose i386 architecture
20:18<Barberbill>ok sounds good will try
20:19<Barberbill>Thanks later God Bless all here
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20:19<bsirius>draxdeveloper, can you do "modprobe usb-storage" as root
20:21<bsirius>draxdeveloper, do lsusb again
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20:23<draxdeveloper>same thing
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20:24<draxdeveloper>i will try with another pendrive later...
20:24<draxdeveloper>i am not in my home so i cant check it, but everything that i plug on the usb is working except it
20:25<bsirius>draxdeveloper, ok we're running out of options here, I'm afraid you'll have to format the pendrive, just move your files to another PC and then format it and try again, that usually does the trick, after your last dmesg there weren't any errors after you plugged it in so it appears as if it's working fine
20:25<bsirius>draxdeveloper, and if you do format it, do NOT format it as ext fs but use fat rather
20:27<draxdeveloper>ok, ty for your time
20:27<draxdeveloper>since is not my pendrive i will let as it, tomorrow i will try againn
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20:28<bsirius>draxdeveloper, the last thing that I can think of to check is /etc/modprobe.d/ and check for blacklist file(s) and see if you have USB written anywhere in there
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20:29<bsirius>draxdeveloper, other than that I'm out of ideas as we've checked pretty much everything, I would also suggest you do "apt-get install mcelog" and after reboot check "/var/log/mcelog" for errors because it looks like you have a hardware error - "mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged"
20:31<draxdeveloper>ok, i will do it
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20:31<bsirius>draxdeveloper, I'm pretty sure formatting the pendrive will fix your issue but I'm sorry I wasn't able to help you fix it without resorting to formatting
20:31<draxdeveloper>ok, ty again :)
20:32<bsirius>draxdeveloper, anyway I'm off as it's half 1 here and I'm just tired :) good night and see y'all tomorrow
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21:23<callahan>Hello. I've been sharing Internet from my Windows machine via etherent to a Debian laptop. I enabled a wireless network interface on the Debian box but now I can't seem to connect back via ethernet as before. What could be causing the problem?
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21:24<callahan>nahuel: hola, acá se habla inglés, Nahuel.
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21:24<nahuel>for what?
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21:26<nahuel>aca son todos putos
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22:01<Mnemosyne>The by-uuid folder is missing on a Debian install of mine, resulting in a total failure to boot, dropping me to a Busybox shell.
22:02<Mnemosyne>The failure stems from the initramfs trying to grab a disk from the absent by-uuid folder.
22:02<Mnemosyne>This happened after an apt-get upgrade.
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22:05<Mnemosyne>So, how do I solve this crap?
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22:07<Brigo>Mnemosyne, afaik by-uuid folder is a kernel stuff, did you deal with the default kernel?
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22:07<Mnemosyne>Yes. This is the stock Debian kernel that came with 7.8.0.
22:07<Mnemosyne>And it is giving be a missing by-uuid after an apt-get upgrade.
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22:08<themill>upgrade from what to what?
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22:16<Brigo>themill, you have scared him! :D
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22:18<detly>I'm having trouble using pbuilder via apt-cacher-ng to build a vivid pbuilder - pbuilder knows about vivid, but apt-cacher-ng doesn't seem to
22:19<Mnemosyne>Upgrade from 7.8 to 7.8. An apt-get upgrade.
22:19<detly>when I try to access the release file manually, it's empty (as opposed to, say, utopic's, which is correct)
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22:20<detly>is there a way to "tell" apt-cacher-ng about new ubuntu releases?
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22:21<Mnemosyne>detly: I think they would know more about this in the Ubuntu IRC.
22:21<Mnemosyne>This is a mechanism absent in Debian.
22:21<detly>hmm, fair enough
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22:40<KilatBiru>i found a stable virtualbox for debian jessy
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23:23<Mnemosyne>I still have an issue.
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