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03:13<virtual>anyone ever done the following with preseed/partman? Setup an LVM based system, with / and swap, and left the rest of the disk 'spare'?
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03:49<fektom>hi all
03:50<misterhat>hi fektom
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03:52<fektom>I just want to ask from people who updated the wheezy to jessie (with x86_64 architecture): did you realize any performance drop on bootup or my computer is the only case? It took 50 sec to boot into grub, while wheezy took only 30 sec on avarage.
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04:19<virtual>fektom: 'boot into grub' - i.e. the first menu takes longer to get to?
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05:01<fektom>virtual: nope, the whole system boot up slower
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05:30<anatoly_>I asked question about httpd virtual package abd centrx suggested to check it with "apt-cache show". He said it works for him, but I get same result as "aptitude show". So here's my updated question: installed lighttpd or nginx packages on jessie (or testing) don't provide httpd virtual package. aptitude show httpd
05:31<anatoly_>Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.3.2 │ says "No current or candidate version found for httpd". Also apt-cache show says "N: No packages found"
05:31<anatoly_>sorry, something went wrong.
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05:35<anatoly>I asked question about httpd virtual package abd centrx suggested to check it with "apt-cache show". He said it works for him, but I get same result as "aptitude show". So here's my updated question: installed lighttpd or nginx packages on jessie (or testing) don't provide httpd virtual package. "aptitude show httpd" says "No current or candidate version found for httpd". Also "apt-cache show httpd" says "
05:35<anatoly>N: No packages found"
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05:42<lspem>for how long is wheezy still gonna be maintained?
05:42<lspem>and security-patched?
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05:50<virtual>I think one year after release of jessie - is what this says: https://www.debian.org/security/faq#lifespan
05:50<virtual>Though I understand that the previous verison of Debian was supported for a lot longer than a year, it's not something that should be relied on.
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05:56<virtual>Ah, I knew what I was missing 'long term support' - I guess Wheezy will go into LTS once a year is up.
05:57<SynrG>i think the agreed upon figure is five years including LTS
05:57<fektom>virtual: thanks, i was interested, too
05:57<SynrG>five years from stable release date, i mean
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05:59<SynrG>https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00082.html
05:59<SynrG>the squeeze announcement says five years
05:59<SynrG>so we can assume the same for wheezy
05:59<SynrG>see 2nd Q/A
06:00<virtual>thanks, SynrG! The best I found in the end was this one: https://www.freexian.com/services/debian-lts.html
06:01<virtual>I thought it was somewhere more 'obvious' on the Debian website, but was struggling to find it.
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06:02*virtual is still wanting preseed/partman help, if anyone currently on has experience with it. :)
06:03<virtual>does partman *always* use up the whole disk, even if the maximum partition size is set to a smaller value?
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06:03<SynrG>well, squeeze was the experiment. i imagine it should go somewhere more visible on www.d.o since it looks like it's a success (though squeeze still has another year to go)
06:03<virtual>my swap partition used up 222GB, instead of 8GB. :)
06:05<SynrG>'whole disk' is the default. i guess you need to tinker with that
06:05<SynrG>i.e. if you tweak the max partition size, you then need to explicitly handle swap size
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06:07<virtual>I have pastebin thing... let me find it - maybe you can confirm.
06:07<virtual>https://bpaste.net/show/aa5b5520ed70 is what worked for me to boot with (but it didn't use the labels either)
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06:08<SynrG>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apbs04.html.en#preseed-partman
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06:08<SynrG>that's all i know on the topic
06:08<virtual>heh, okay. :)
06:08<SynrG>i've never actually done this
06:08<SynrG>if you need help beyond what the docs offer, #debian-boot may be able to help
06:09<virtual>I see a lot of examples with a /srv/extra or whatever as the last partition, but they purposely set it to be a massive size to fill up the disk. I just want spare (I want to use the rest of the LVM for virtual machines)
06:09<virtual>sure, I tried there first, but got no response - appreciate that I may have been in the right place first though. :)
06:09<virtual>might try again later, when it's got some life in it.
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06:10<virtual>and it's not dinnertime for me ;)
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06:11<SynrG>of course it's a dev channel, not a help channel and as such they may be busy/absent much of the time
06:11<SynrG>so, patience :)
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07:27<bremner>should I be worried that this newly upgraded jessie kvm guest does not have grub-pc installed in it?
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07:38<virtual>SynrG: Heh, I am having to exercise it ;) Though I can wait - I just want to know how to make it better for future netboot builds - am about to do a few more soon.
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07:57<zlatan>bremner, nope
07:58<bremner>zlatan: oh. I just installed grub-pc and rebooted. So it's useless then?
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07:59<zlatan>bremner, it has it use-cases but it shouldn't be important for kvm at all
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07:59<bremner>zlatan: ok, cool.
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09:03<d3c0>!hi
09:03<dpkg>hello, d3c0
09:03<d3c0>how I work with python 3.4? is set the 2.7.9
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09:05<zlatan>d3c0, how do you mean how to work with python3? install it, make your p3 scripts and run it with p3
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09:14<d3c0>zlatan, is already installed, but how I change to this version?
09:15<zlatan>d3c0, what are you trying to do?
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09:47<danielh>hi, I'm having difficulty getting firmware-realtek to work on debian 8.0. on the previous stable release of debian, after installing this package, wlan0 would pop up in ifconfig, but that is not the case with this release. I've also noticed that the card doesn't seem to be listed in the output of lspci. not sure what card it is, but I'm using a thinkpad x230. any ideas on how I might go about fixing this?
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09:48<Brigo>danielh, is that a pci card?
09:48<danielh>I think so. all I know is it's internal and it's worked with firmware-realtek on I think 7.0
09:48<danielh>debian 7.0
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09:50<Brigo>danielh, i am reading in internet that you have to install a package from non-free:
09:50<Brigo>apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi
09:50<danielh>there's a similar card used with x230's, which use firmware-iwlwifi, and it shows up in lspci, according to some pages I found through google. this is a different card though
09:50<danielh>like, you can get x230s with a realtek card or an intel card
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09:51<Brigo>danielh, and did you know what car is that?
09:51<danielh>I installed firmware-iwlwifi anyway, but wlan0 still doesn't show up in ifconfig
09:52<Brigo>danielh, if lspci don't list it then the kernel does not find/recognices it.
09:52<danielh>nah, I can't find it in lspci
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09:52<zlatan>danielh, maybe the card just died in the meantime
09:52<danielh>http://codepad.org/ekddTpBC
09:52<Brigo>danielh, you should have the old kernel still installed, try to boot with it and check the card.
09:53<danielh>that's the output I get from lspci
09:53<zlatan>anyway time for me to go
09:53<danielh>zlatan: I guess that's a possibility, though it seems unlikely
09:53<Brigo>it will be usefull to exec lspci -nn and the those number in []
09:53<danielh>Brigo: I did a fresh install, with the net installer
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09:54<danielh>http://codepad.org/bTmHRKrD
09:54<danielh>that's with -nn
09:55<Brigo>danielh, http://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/2n2jax/best_wifi_card_for_thinkpad_x230/
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09:57<danielh>yes, I probably have the one that is referred to as a piece of crap by hamilton950b :-)
09:57<danielh>though, in my experience, it's worked sufficiently well in the past
09:57*phillipsjk__ usually finds wifi adapters with lsusb
09:58<danielh>phillipsjk__: I get this output with lsusb: http://codepad.org/Ko6EcsHF
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09:59<danielh>I think brigo's right, in that it isn't detected by linux
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10:00<phillipsjk__>hmm, the acer thing is unlabeled.
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10:02<phillipsjk__>danielh, is there a wifi disable switch?
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10:02<danielh>yup
10:03<phillipsjk__>Is wifi enabled?
10:03<danielh>one on the side and one on the keyboard
10:03<danielh>yeah
10:03<danielh>well, the switch is turned on
10:03<phillipsjk__>eh, sorry I can't be more help then.
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10:04<danielh>hmm
10:04<Brigo>danielh, you have to know your wifi card name and chip version, and ask for support about that wifi.
10:05<danielh>like, the name that you'd ordinarily get through lspci?
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10:07<jack_>does anyone know how to add workstations with tint2?
10:07<Brigo>danielh, for example. with that numbers from lspci -nn you can get a more accurate identification.
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10:09<danielh>hmm, I suppose I'll try a different kernel and see whether I can get that line in lspci, then work from there. thanks for the help, everyone.
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10:24<danielh>it's strange, I got the line after a reboot (and wireless networking now works): 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)
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10:24<Brigo>,pciid 10ec:8176
10:24<judd>[10ec:8176] is 'RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'rtl8192ce' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8176 http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x
10:25<danielh>but I rebooted before and it had no effect. same kernel though.
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10:25<Brigo>danielh, any other line regarding that?
10:26<danielh>regarding what?
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10:26<Brigo>you can try to load that module, 'rtl8192ce', manually with modprobe rtl8192ce
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10:26<Brigo>danielh, even better modprobe -v rtl8192ce
10:27<Brigo>danielh, ah, you have then, the wifi woring?
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10:27<danielh>hmm, no output from that command
10:27<danielh>yup
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10:29<Brigo>danielh, let me ask again: do you have the wifi working?
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10:29<danielh>it could have been when I returned from hibernate that it started working, or on boot. not sure. I'll have to see how I go with it (hoping it'll keep working now, heh)
10:29<danielh>I do
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10:29<Brigo>danielh, if the kernel does not detect it sometimes, it could be a hardware problem.
10:31<danielh>I'll have to see how it turns out during regular use
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10:32<danielh>thanks again for taking the time to help me with this
10:32<Brigo>danielh, you are wellcome :)
10:32<rrka>hello
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10:33<rrka>I think I've bricked my Debian installation while upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie and I've been going through troubleshooting documentations for the past few hours but I can't seem to fix it, anyone willing to help me diagnose the problem?
10:33<jonase>hey guys. I'm on Sid and have "glitches" in my GUI, like artifacts. I just know them from defective GPUs but I hope it's not coming from this (powerpc32) - this is my Xorg.0.log http://paste.debian.net/190831/
10:34<Brigo>rrka, Can you tell us more about your problem?
10:34<musca>jonase: please switch to #debian-next channel
10:34<jonase>oh. sorry!
10:34<jonase>okay :)
10:35<rrka>Brigo, I've basically updated the sources.list, did update and dist-upgrade then rebooted the server and it has not booted back, so I've been switching between booting from hard drive and rescue mode trying various solutions but I can't really nail down the issue
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10:36<rrka>dmesg shows a few messages related to the raid array and I thought that maybe it's not properly assembling it during the boot process but the message seems to be a false flag
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10:36<rrka>(it's related to missing partition table, however I can boot in rescue mode and mount it just fine so I think it's a false flag)
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10:36<rrka>and I'm just not sure anymore how to proceed from this point
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10:37<rrka>I'm not sure what information you'd need so if there's anything specific you need to know about the problem then just tell me what do you need to see
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10:38<Brigo>rrka, can you reach grub?
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10:38<rrka>Brigo, I don't know if the system gets to grub because it's on a remote server
10:38<rrka>but with every reboot attempt the timers in dmesg output seem to update so I suppose it's actually getting past grub
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10:39<Brigo>if you can get to rescue mode, you can reach grub, and even load the kernel and start booting.
10:39<Brigo>so you get at least a command line, rigth?
10:39<rrka>yes
10:39<rrka>I can SSH into a live cd system (the booted rescue image off the network)
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10:40<Brigo>rrka, no, i mean, can you boot into the system and get a command line?
10:40<Brigo>just for check logs
10:40<rrka>I suppose so
10:41<rrka>I mean I can't get into the actual system since it doesn't boot off the drive anymore (and it doesn't respond to ping or anything)
10:41<Brigo>rrka, if you can try jounalctl -b and search for errors.
10:41<rrka>but it can be booted off the rescue image and I can access the broken system and chroot into it
10:41<rrka>it says there are no journal files
10:41<Brigo>rrka, i am not sure if there are enought.
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10:42<Brigo>rrka, yes, they are generated on boot.
10:42<Brigo>and as the system can access the disk, it can save logs.
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10:43<rrka>yeah but the system is not booting and I'm issuing journalctl through chroot that I mounted
10:43<Brigo>rrka, amd64?
10:43<rrka>yes
10:44<Brigo>rrka, yes, but there is no boot logs to check.
10:44<rrka>so I'm out of luck if I can't even get any messages out of it?
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10:45<Brigo>rrka, can you mount all the disk listed in fstab?
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10:45<Brigo>all the filesystems, i mean
10:46<rrka>yes
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10:48<Brigo>rrka, can you edit grub kernel line?
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10:48<Brigo>you could try to add emergency in the kernel boot line to get an early emergency command line
10:48<rrka>yes I could edit it
10:49<rrka>but if I edit it, and boot the system off the hard drive, and even if it gets to that command line, I won't be able to access it
10:49<rrka>I have no physical access to the machine
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10:49<Brigo>rrka, yes, right.
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10:52<Brigo>rrka, are you using UUIDs?
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10:53<rrka>in fstab? no, I use the /dev paths
10:53<Brigo>rrka, and in grub?
10:54<rrka>in grub, I use the UUIDs
10:55<Brigo>rrka, try to avoid them, modify grub's behabiours in /etc/default/grub.
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10:55<Brigo>i know about people complaining about uuids changed after upgrade to jessie. Not sure why.
10:56<rrka>I could try but I verified that the UUIDs match
10:57<Brigo>rrka, ah, then .... :/
10:57<Brigo>i am getting clueless.
10:58<Brigo>rrka, are you using lvm?
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11:00<rrka>Brigo, no
11:01<Brigo>how long did you wait for booting?
11:02<rrka>10 minutes at most
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11:03<Brigo>rrka, sometimes systemd wait too much for a procces to die even an hour. You can try just to wait a bit more.
11:03<Brigo>or you coudl try to boot to initvsys again.
11:03<rrka>you mean during the shootdown?
11:03<rrka>shutdown*
11:03<Brigo>rrka, no the booting
11:03<rrka>what process would need to die during boot?
11:03<guilherme>Hi, I have an i7 and I am running some simulations that are really heavy. I would like to increase the multiplyer of my processor. How can I do that?
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11:04<Brigo>rrka, a failing one, a problem mounting, for example will stop the boot for a long time.
11:04<rrka>so then I'd get a meaningful message in the journal if I waited long enough (if it happened to be the case)?
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11:05<Brigo>rrka, and may be a rescue console.
11:05<rrka>but would the system run the sshd in rescue mode?
11:05<rrka>because otherwise I won't be able to get in
11:06<Brigo>ah, but you can get it, ok
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11:13<rrka>Brigo, I've got it, apparently it was an issue with the RAID all the time, I've had to shut off the drives and rebuild superblocks
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11:13<Brigo>rrka, good! :D
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12:09<xormor>why does not Saunalahti 4G Huawei work in "jessie" stable 8.0.0? DNA 3G Huawei works with it, and Saunalahti works in LMDE 2013.
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14:10<spawn>good evening
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14:30<genetix>Is there a help chan separately?
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14:31<mtn>genetix: this is the help channel
14:31<mtn>!ask
14:31<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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14:33<saib0t>!hi
14:33<dpkg>hello, saib0t
14:34<genetix>Got Hybrid ISO exracted to USB SCSI stick under /debian/ -> I am using syslinux 6 to boot live image with "live-media-path=" and "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" extra commands other than regular isolinux CD cfg. Debian live boots fine but the desktop icon for "Install Debian Sid" cannot be launched. What am I missing?
14:36<genetix>(Had same issue for past 2-3 years every version. I can install by booting to netboot or live CD /install/, but would be nice to get the installer working from live variant.)
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15:49<egidius>Guys, i m using sparkylinux, and my monitor resolution bugged. My openbox "bar" on the right is out of resolution. How can I configure it correctly?
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16:03<egidius>is anyone online?
16:04<squisher>dpkg tell egidius ask
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16:04<squisher>oh you did ask, my bad. irc rule is: be patient
16:05<squisher>and what is sparkylinux? this is a debian support channel
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16:10<egidius>squisher, sparkylinux is a distro based on debian
16:11<egidius>Thx so much for answering me. I m using openbox
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16:12<squisher>egidius, well, the problem with derived distros is that it's hard for us to know where they differ. But some general pointers: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and/or check out arandr for a nice gui to configure your resolution (doesn't make it permanent though)
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16:23<Heimdall>hello?
16:24<Krakakanok>hello Heimdall
16:25<Heimdall>Krakakanok:Thank you!
16:25<Heimdall>Wasn't sure if I had connected successfully using this client.
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16:29<Brigo>Heimdall, next time you could ask the bots as dpkg, for example :)
16:29<Heimdall>dpkg
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16:30<Brigo>dpkg, hi!
16:30<dpkg>hi
16:30<Heimdall>Brigo: could you explain how to use dkpg..
16:30<Heimdall>Oh
16:30<Brigo>dpkg, nice bot :)
16:30<dpkg>bugger all, i dunno, Brigo
16:30<Heimdall>dpkg, help
16:31<Brigo>Heimdall, you better send a private query to it.
16:31<Heimdall>!help dpkg
16:31<Heimdall>I give up :(
16:31<Brigo>Heimdall, query it with /query dpkg and then write help
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16:46<hwgasdfasdf>how do you stop "A start job is running..." - I know it's doing a disk check on a very large mdraid mirror and I don't want to wait for it
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16:47<hwgasdfasdf>oh, maybe wrong channel, always forget :(
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16:53<raisen>I'm trying to open a truecrypt container using cryptsetup (and the Truecrypt application), but the command is failing with: Device /dev/loop0 is too small. Any ideas? Container opens fine on Windows
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16:56<raisen>This is what --debug gives me: Device /dev/loop0: offset = 256 requested size = 204799488, backing device size = 204797953
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18:54<saib0t>!hi
18:54<dpkg>hello, saib0t
18:55<saib0t>is there any live wallpaper for debian ?
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19:00<zlatan>saib0t, live wallpaper? like something moving all the time on screen :D
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19:00<saib0t>zlatan: ahah! no, changing according to the time
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19:02<zlatan>saib0t, you mean an actual software that changes different pics over time? (there is "live" wallpaper in gnome at least that gets darker or brighter during the time of day)
19:03<saib0t>zlatan: b00m! thats it ! but for debian lxde
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19:04<zlatan>saib0t, well I don't know for the official packaged in debian but there were some doing that (wallhack, live wallpaper (if I didn't misuse the name) etc etc)
19:04<zlatan>you can always write and xml script and read that as your background
19:06<saib0t>zlatan, how to set the xml ?
19:07<saib0t>the default lxde background tool can t read them
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19:09<saib0t>zlatan, oh ! i get it. thanks for the help ^^
19:09<zlatan>saib0t, meh, I don't have the energy to explain that :D but here is suggestion (AFAIR) - you can use Shotwell, select pictures you want and the go to File -> Set as Desktop Slideshow..and you would even get presented with timer (how often you want the change to happen)
19:09<zlatan>saib0t, okay :D
19:10<saib0t>zlatan, i just have to make some changes in the xml
19:11<zlatan>yes, setup the paths to pics and setup the time of transition
19:11<saib0t>zlatan, in the xml i pick, the time format its pm am. i m using 24 hours. do you think it ll work ?
19:11<zlatan>Shotwell (was) far easier and working if you don't want to fiddle with scripts
19:12<zlatan>saib0t, hm, you just need to set transition parameter (as change every 5mins etc)
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19:12<saib0t><transition type="overlay">
19:12<saib0t> <!-- 2 hours, 8pm-10pm -->
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19:20<zlatan>saib0t, something like this was on my mind https://paste.debian.net/191521/
19:21<saib0t>zlatan, i just finish editing and its not working. looks like it cant handle xxml files
19:22<saib0t>zlatan, c00l! let me try this one
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19:42<kingsley>How would you launch an xterm that allows the root user to run X applications in the original/normal user's X session?
19:43<kingsley>When I try ...
19:44<kingsley>$ su-to-root -X -c xterm
19:44<kingsley>it opens an xterm as root, but running the X application gvim complains with
19:44<kingsley>No protocol specified
19:44<kingsley>E233: cannot open displayE852: The child process failed to start the GUINo protocol specified
19:44<kingsley>How would you launch an xterm that allows the root user to run X applications in the original/normal user's X session?
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19:45<zlatan>!root
19:45<dpkg>It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306
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19:47<saib0t>hm! good tok
19:47<saib0t> good to know
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19:50<saib0t>but bliss on linux !!!?0.o
19:50<zlatan>saib0t, did wallpaper thing work
19:51<saib0t>zlatan, no i give up. i had to install shotwell or somtin like dat to get live wallpapers
19:51<saib0t>and i don t want to install anytin more on my os
19:52<zlatan>saib0t, I was pretty sure xml should work but also suggested shotwell for less experienced users
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19:52<zlatan>also you can use --no-install-recommends if you don't want to end up with "too many" packages
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19:53<saib0t>wats dat ?
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19:54<misterhat>kingsley: gksu?
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19:56<kingsley>misterhat: $ gksu -u root xterm
19:57<kingsley>leaves me at a root command shell prompt, but it fails to run an X application (gvim).
19:57<misterhat>what is your goal here kingsley
19:58<zlatan>saib0t, sudo apt install --no-install-recommends <packaganame> will install package without its recommends
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20:00<kingsley>misterhat: My goal is to run X as a normal user, and from a normal user's command line, run an xterm that lets root run any X application from that xterm'
20:00<kingsley>xterm's command line.
20:01<misterhat>weird
20:01<misterhat>worked for me
20:01<kingsley>X->normal_user->xterm->bash(as root)->X applications
20:02<misterhat>i ran urxvt with gksu, gksu opens urxvt as root
20:02<misterhat>and then i opened gedit
20:02<misterhat>through that
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20:02<kingsley>Can you show me the exact syntax you used to run urxvt with gksu?
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20:05<kingsley>misterhat: When I try ...
20:06<kingsley>$ gksu rxvt
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20:06<misterhat>yeah that was it kingsley
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20:06<misterhat>urxvt though, idunno if it makes a difference
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20:06<kingsley>as a normal user, it dumps me at a prompt for the root user, but then when I try to run gedit...
20:07<kingsley>it complains with
20:07<kingsley>No protocol specified
20:07<kingsley>** (gedit:22288): WARNING **: Could not open X display
20:07<kingsley>No protocol specified
20:07<kingsley>Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
20:07<kingsley>(gedit:22288): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
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20:12<zlatan>kingsley, try with DISPLAY=:0 gedit (also, are you in some tty?)
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20:13<zlatan>bah, I am very very sleepy atm so tschuss to alle :) o/
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20:15<misterhat>kingsley: do you have anything weird in your bashrc
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20:18<kingsley>misterhat: I definitely put stuff in bashrc.
20:18<misterhat>kingsley: like what
20:18<kingsley>My concerns are that "weird" is vague, and I also find myself wondering whether to look in system wide, root or normal user's bashrc first.
20:19<misterhat>hm well i think it'd be with root
20:19<misterhat>i'm not sure kingsley why it isn't able to access the X server
20:20<misterhat>gksu also does something with the ~/.Xauthority
20:20<kingsley>Yes, I'm inclined to prioritize roots' bashrc first also,
20:20<misterhat>kingsley: does opening urxvt with normal sudo work?
20:20<saib0t>zlatan, great ! new command learned
20:21<kingsley>Here's something interesting in /root/.bashrc ...
20:21<kingsley>export XAUTHORITY=~<nomral user>/.Xauthority
20:21<misterhat>lol
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20:21<misterhat>yeah that's not supposed to be there
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20:22<misterhat>mine is just comments so
20:24<kingsley>misterhat: I'm happy to report that commenting out
20:24<kingsley># export XAUTHORITY=~<nomral user>/.Xauthority
20:24<kingsley>seems to have allowed
20:24<kingsley>$ su-to-root -X -c xterm
20:24<kingsley>to run X applications.
20:25<kingsley>Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
20:25<misterhat>great :P
20:25<misterhat>no problem
20:25<kingsley>Please accept the following ditty as a small token of my appreciation...
20:25<kingsley>misterhat!
20:25<kingsley>misterhat!
20:25<kingsley>Brave, courageous, and bold!
20:25<kingsley>Long live his fame!
20:25<kingsley>Long live his glory!
20:26<kingsley>And long live his story be told!
20:26<Brigo>kingsley, what about your twin? :D
20:26<kingsley>Er... And long *may* his story be told!
20:26<kingsley>Brigo: Haha! Nice one!
20:27<Brigo>kingsley, :)
20:27<kingsley>Brigo: Would my "twin" like a ditty too?
20:27<misterhat>thanks kingsley that was very catchy
20:27<Brigo>kingsley, not really, just joking :)
20:28<kingsley>OK, but I asked!
20:28<kingsley>;-)
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21:34<Genison>Hi guys, I was wondering, what are the advantages (if any) of using NVIDIA drivers instead of "nouveau"?
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21:41<allorder>gaming
21:42<allorder>I think
21:43<allorder>better performance under nvidia
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21:46<allorder>more frags on kill bill
21:46<Genison>:)
21:47<saib0t>i get this error every time i m upgrading
21:47<saib0t>W: Possible missing firmware /
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21:49<allorder>saib0t: try apt-get install firmware-realtek
21:51<saib0t>firmware-realtek better then linux-firmware, allorder ?
21:51<allorder>i dunno
21:52<allorder>dunno if better, but your error on google suggest firmware-realtek
21:52<saib0t>something else to install :@ but my network working pretty fine
21:52<saib0t>so what the hack !?
21:53<allorder>maybe you are connected with eh0 and got a wifi card
21:53<saib0t>i'm using a router
21:53<allorder>ok
21:54<allorder>ignore the error if internet work, or install the package
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23:35<heikosur>hi there. I just installed jessie with lxde as desktop (in a virtualbox vm, if that matters) and apt-get install tab completion is not working. bash-completion is installed. what am I missing?
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23:40<heikosur>uncommenting the section about bash completion in /etc/bash.bashrc helped
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