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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-06-02

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00:20<N0oBz>Someone can help ! https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/server-reboot-issue-unknow-please-help.2755883/
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00:23<Oxion>tengo lo que necesitan
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00:46<Oxion>lion
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01:18<rjsalts>Does https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading not work anymore?
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03:17<pa3>Hello, which package replaces package gnome-desktop-environment in Debian 8? I want to install pure Gnome environment with all apps like Gnome browser (Web) etc.
03:19<themill>task-gnome-desktop would probably do the trick
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03:23<pa3>And task-gnome-desktop is pure Gnome without apps like Iceweasel etc.?
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03:33<petn-randall>!tias
03:33<dpkg>TIAS is "Try It And See".
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03:39<themill>Is sed a gnome app? It will be installed.
03:40<themill>(I don't know what browser you'd pick instead of iceweasel)
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04:17<lazka>I want to setup a static IP for wlan0 using /etc/networking/interfaces. https://bpaste.net/
04:17<lazka>this works but every time the router restarts I get a dhcp address and I have to ifdown/up to get my static one back
04:17<lazka>any ideas?
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04:18<lazka>https://bpaste.net/show/c7147f933dfa
04:18<jm_>so find out what else is managing wlan0 then
04:20<lazka>jm_, I see, how do I find that out or what could it be?
04:21<jm_>lazka: typical "culprit" would be network manager or wicd
04:21<lazka>jm_, thanks, I'll have a look.
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04:22<jm_>no problem
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04:23<lazka>both not installed :/
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04:27<jm_>then maybe check for what is running on the system and using sockets, netstat -nap should be a start
04:27<lazka>I see this in the journal: https://bpaste.net/show/0b3a06ea8c3d
04:27<lazka>when the change happens
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04:29<jm_>yeah that's expected I guess
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04:33<lazka>I think I was hitting: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=266175
04:34<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/266175 in ifupdown (open): «Changing from dhcp to static IP: dhclient still running»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2004-08-16; last modified: 2004-08-16.
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04:36<jm_>so restart fixed it or what?
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04:42<lazka>jm_, I think so. dhclient was still running on wlan0, now it isn't.
04:43<lazka>thanks for rubber ducking :)
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04:44<jm_>lazka: ahh good find
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04:55<thortie>Hi guys. I just lost about 50 ext4 fs on Jessie VMs with the following error: https://paste.debian.net/194593/
04:55<thortie>Does anybody know if this is related to #785672? Thanks
04:55<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/785672 in src:linux (closed, upstream): «Critical ext4 data corruption bug»; severity: critical; opened: 2015-05-18; last modified: 2015-05-26.
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04:56<thortie>judd: Is there a way to get the new package? It does not seem to be on ftp right now.
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04:57<jm_>judd is a bot
04:57<thortie>This is why I have not been using IRC for about 15 years :)
04:57<jm_>are you using md device?
04:58<thortie>no
04:58<aborrero>how can one control which tabs xfce4-terminal open at startup? Currently it opens 3 or 4 with dirs used in last session. I don't manage to find any config file
04:58<thortie>It is a plain ESXi VM with nothing fancy. Backend is an Enterprise SAN array.
04:58*judd sulks at being reduced to mere bot status
04:58<thortie>I am using elevator=noop on all block devices, but this should not hurt
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05:00<jm_>not sure if it's the same bug or not
05:01<thortie>I looked at the upstream git commit, it might be related, but I am not sure. Before I start compiling upstream kernels I wanted to give the new version a try.
05:02<jm_>you can grab new kernel here http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-proposed-updates/
05:03<jm_>or add proposed updates to sources.list -- https://wiki.debian.org/StableProposedUpdates
05:03<thortie>jm_: Thanks!
05:03<jm_>no worries
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05:26<peter1138>Hmm, odd, just did another Wheezy to Jessie dist-upgrade, but this one hangs on boot :(
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05:27<SynrG>this can happen if your /etc/fstab has crap in it
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05:27<peter1138>Gets to "Reached target Emergency Mode" but... no shell.
05:27<SynrG>check the UUIDs returned by blkid vs. what's in /etc/fstab
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05:28<peter1138>Yeah, they match.
05:28<SynrG>obviously you'll need some boot media from which to do this. a live system or so
05:29<SynrG>any other errors that might give a clue as it boots?
05:29<peter1138>Rescue mode works and gives me a shell.
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05:30<peter1138>fscks all go fine.
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05:40<peter1138>Not sure how to see what went wrong. journalctl -xb seems to show me that the rescue mode booted fine...
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05:45<appas>anyone know where the default hotkey bindings for openbox are defined?
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05:49<sveta>checked its manpage?
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05:54<appas>i can only find rc.xml, where keybindings can be defined, but the currently active bindings (eg. volume up/down) are not there
05:56<peter1138>And... exiting from rescue mode makes it run normally... :S
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05:59<sveta>appas: look for rc.xml file on the whole fs
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05:59<sveta>maybe default list defined elsewhere
06:00<peter1138>"A start job is running for ..."
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06:23<peter1138>Hmm, now it's being different, showing "Failed to start udev Kernel Device Manager"
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06:24<peter1138>Which loads fine in rescue mode. Hmm.
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06:35<peter1138>Argh... and there's no log :S
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06:56<Omar>hello
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06:57<peter1138>And... sysvinit boot works.
06:57<sveta>good, you're in
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07:00<peter1138>Suboptimal.
07:00<centrx>sysvinit is superoptimal!
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07:01<peter1138>I want systemd to work, like all the other systems I've upgraded.
07:03<inkbottle>Hi, I have a problem with Kmail which retrieve the mails at first (that is after booting), then stop after a some time...
07:03<inkbottle>consequently it's just useless...
07:03<inkbottle>probably the best should be to use another client
07:04<centrx>inkbottle, #kde on irc.freenode.net would probably know better about kmail
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07:05<inkbottle>so perhaps someone could point me to a reliable up to date tutorial about securely configuring a client
07:05<inkbottle>centrx: OK
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07:12<peter1138>Wonder if I should restore this from backup and try again. I don't think I did anything different to everything else, though.
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08:23<peter1138>SynrG, solved it, dbus is required if the machine needs to fsck (despite only being a recommends)
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09:04<lord_rob>Hi! Can anyone help me with GParted? I'd like to install Win7 but I have too many primary partitions. (One NTFS where Win7 lies in + Linux "/" "/home" "swap") -> which is 4 the maximum num number of partitions. The hidden partition (reserved to system) is located on another hdd where I had a previous version of win7, that's why I could install it. But now I can't upgrade because of that missing partition on sda1. Any idea of how
09:04<lord_rob>I could fix the problem ?
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09:05<lord_rob>here's a screenshot of my gparted to make things clearer : http://imgur.com/t3KuRof
09:06<lord_rob>I'd say every partition after the ntfs one (windows, green) should go into a logical drive, but how?
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09:12<centrx>lord_rob, Just combine the partitions? This might be data destructive
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09:13<centrx>"Primary" partition has some special meaning, need to look it up
09:15<lord_rob>I don't want to combine partitions
09:16<lord_rob>just to recreate them into a logical drive
09:17<centrx>A partition is a logical drive
09:17<lord_rob>well I expressed myself badly sorry, I wanted to say, how could I do that. that = "moving the 3 partitions into a logical drive"
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09:18<lord_rob>I know
09:19<centrx>It sounds like the Windows installer is just confused about "having too many primary partitions"
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09:21<lord_rob>I thought yould only have 4 primary partition when using the MS-DOS partitionning scheme
09:21<lord_rob>you could*
09:22<centrx>Yes
09:22<centrx>I think the "Primary" is just a flag you can set on a partition
09:22<centrx>Check the menus?
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09:26<lord_rob>hmmm I can't do anything right now as I'm using my HDD on my system
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09:46<weber>what?
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09:49<zhanshan>how to link a library against a bin program?
09:49<zhanshan>in the proper way?
09:49<zhanshan>see: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fd936727d3fab9984a3a
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10:03<zhanshan>i got the answer already
10:04<zhanshan>so nevermind
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10:26<iamrohit7>gnome is unbearably slow on my system without xwayland. but there seems to be no touchpad support in xwayland. is there anything i can do about it?
10:27<centrx>What are your system specs?
10:28<iamrohit7>core 2 duo @1.8GHz 2 gigs of RAM
10:28<iamrohit7>centrx: anything else?
10:28<centrx>that should be enough
10:28<iamrohit7>Intel® 965GM graphics
10:28<centrx>could be your graphics card yeah
10:29<iamrohit7>centrx: i didn't get that
10:29<centrx>try disabling fancy graphics settings in the Gnome Settings whatever it's called?
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10:30<iamrohit7>centrx : xwayland works like a charm though. no lag what so ever.
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10:30<centrx>I don't know much about it
10:31<iamrohit7>what settings were you talking about?
10:31<centrx>like transparency or compositing or whatever fancy graphics Gnome uses
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10:52<zlatan>iamrohit7, you do know that wayland on gnome is something like technical preview?
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10:52<zlatan>gnome on wayland to be precise
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10:54<iamrohit7>zlatan : no. but that works better than the "stable" for me
10:54<zlatan>that's....weird
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10:55<SynrG>uh, what? 965GM is pretty plain jane intel
10:55<SynrG>it's not a fantastic performer, but it shouldn't noticably lag
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10:56<peter1138>Ah, no mod_mono in Jessie. Might end up reverting this after all...
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10:59<iamrohit7>SynrG : i also find varying cpu loads when running pretty same apps at different times. on wayland its a very low
11:00<SynrG>iamrohit7: i would like to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log at paste.debian.net
11:02<iamrohit7>SynrG : http://paste.debian.net/195217/
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11:03<SynrG>doesn't look waylandish to me ...
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11:04<SynrG>humm, wayland doesn't output to /var/log/Xorg.0.log i guess?
11:04<iamrohit7>SynrG : this is not on wayland
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11:04<SynrG>yeah, that's what i figured
11:05<iamrohit7>do you want me to do it while on wayland
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11:05<SynrG>nah, that's fine. as i said, does wayland even output to that log? or does it log elsewhere?
11:06<SynrG>iamrohit7: i wonder if the new AccelMethod is crap for i965?
11:07<SynrG>iamrohit7: might be able to fall back to whatever it was before ...
11:08<iamrohit7>SynrG : i am not an expert. just a newbie
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11:21<lord_rob>Hi! How can I change my email address in reportbug?
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11:25<themill>lord_rob: in your ~/.reportbugrc -- man reportbug.conf
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11:43<infernix>why does apt preferences only accept a=testing or a=stable and not a=jessie?
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11:43<infernix>is a= wrong and there some other flag for release name?
11:44<infernix>I really want to pin to a named release, not a branch
11:45<infernix>ah. n=jessie. wonderful.
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11:53<N0oBz>Hey, my server is rebooting from time to time
11:53<N0oBz>please how i can troubleshooting that issue to discover the reason of that reboots
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11:54<N0oBz>my server os's Debian 8
11:54<N0oBz>Jessie
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14:09<EmleyMoor>Since the upgrade to jessie, the built-in mobile broadband on my laptop hasn't worked - it's an Ericsson H5321gw in a ThinkPad X131e. I've looked at some web pages that talk of problems with it, but none of them actually seem to reflect my situation... how do I go about tracking down the problem?
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14:28<ovan>define your situation.
14:29<ovan>EmleyMoor: What drivers are you using?
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14:38<oldlaptop>anyone know of something like wget's --limit-rate for apt?
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14:51<jwendell>Hi guys, when a source package builds several binaries... is there a way to debuild/dpkg-buildpackage to generate only 1 or 2 (at my choice) binaries instead of all?
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15:08<Man_of_Wax>may i be scared of some kind of DDOS if a open my port 21 on my router even if i'm using certificate only login in ssh?
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15:09<saib0t>Man_of_Wax, i think it was port 22 ...
15:09<blast007>do you mean port 22? 21 is FTP. And it's not so much a DDoS as a bunch of brute force attempts.
15:10<saib0t>blast007, +1
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15:10<blast007>(which, if you require key based auth is mostly an annoyance in your logs more than anything)
15:10<Man_of_Wax>yeah sorry it's port 22
15:10<Man_of_Wax>ok
15:11<Man_of_Wax>thanks
15:11<blast007>depending on the capabilities of your edge device, you may be able to restrict what remote addresses can even connect to port 22
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15:12<Man_of_Wax>my route is a piece of crap infact i'm most scared that bruteforcing attempt will be more armful to the router itself
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15:18<blast007>Man_of_Wax: I don't forsee that a typical SSH brute force attack would cause a router to fall over
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15:20<blast007>a large brute force might be something like a few hundred attempts in total, but most are just a driveby test for a few well known accounts or blank password attempts
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15:22<at0m|c>sshd_config defaults to MaxStartups 10:30:60. that scan will take a while.
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15:23<Man_of_Wax>ok thanks very much
15:24<at0m|c>disable ssh v1, disable root, disable password logins
15:24<at0m|c>done
15:24<Man_of_Wax>yes
15:24<Man_of_Wax>perfect
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15:42<txt-file>hey folks. I have a problem with my /etc/network/interfaces under debian wheezy. It contains a line "iface eth0 inet6 static" and a line "gateway 2a…" under it. But after a reboot the gateway is not set as default route.
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15:42<txt-file>This is pretty annoying. Can someone recommend a way to set a route after boot?
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15:48<blast007>txt-file: and you have 'auto eth0' or 'allow-hotplug eth0' in there as well?
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15:52<txt-file>blast007, yeah … first "auto eth0" then "iface eth0 inet static" and then "iface eth0 inet6 static".
15:53<txt-file>also the IPv6-address is set but the gateway/default route is not.
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16:58<anatol>hi guys, does anyone know about having xen domu's in a switched network where dom0 is the actual gateway?
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16:59<anatol>i'm on debian jessie acting as gateway for my internal network (eth1) to wan (eth0)
17:00<anatol>and i want the domU's on the same subnet as my internal network
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17:10<damjan>anatol: http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Networking#Setting_up_bridged_networking
17:12<anatol>just tried that and it brakes my ssh to eth1
17:13<anatol>whatever i do trying to set up a bridge blocks my access from the internal network
17:14<anatol>do i have to change my iptables rules for the bridging to work properly?
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17:51<jhutchins>Any freenode ops available? We have a troll problem.
17:52<Brigo>jhutchins, i think it's solved.
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17:54<jhutchins>Brigo: Thx.
17:55<Brigo>jhutchins, np :)
17:55<jhutchins>anatol: Do you have IPTables rules set now?
17:55<anatol>yes
17:56<anatol>it's quite basic though
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18:00<jhutchins>anatol: I wouldn't think the host system would need accomodation, but the guest might.
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18:01<anatol>the guest would not even start up
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18:01<anatol>it sees no connection and gives up
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18:19<EchoOne>Hey
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18:28<Cade>hi
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19:54<averythomas>My debian server is lagging like crazy, how can I narrow down my options?
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20:12<rjsalts>should I log bugs for things like pyclean -p gir1.2-ibus-1.0 being ambiguous if you have multiple architectures installed for postinst/prerm in packages created by dhpython?
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20:16<Brigo>averythomas, why are they lagging? shouldn't they?
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20:17<averythomas>Brigo: just fixed it 3 processes named aptitude safe-upgrade were at 100% CPU
20:17<Brigo>averythomas, did you run that?
20:18<averythomas>Like 3 days ago but I killed it and it came back...
20:18<Brigo>it should be running from crond or something like it, but it used to be apt, not aptitude.
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20:20<Brigo>averythomas, i would check logs and try to find out where it is launched from.
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20:23<laoziu>Hi, should I use SELinux or AppArmor for desktop Debian usage (solo user)? I'm also new to those two.
20:24<Brigo>laoziu, not, at least you are a security paranoid
20:25<laoziu>Brigo: I'm a sec paranoid :(
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20:26<Brigo>laoziu, don't worry, then you will lovee selinux. However i have never used it. :)
20:28<averythomas>Brigo: which logs should I check?
20:28<averythomas>it came back again lol
20:28<Brigo>are you with systemd?
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20:30<averythomas>no?
20:30<Brigo>averythomas, then check syslog and aptitude logs. They are in /var/log.
20:31<Brigo>check cron jobs too, in /etc/cron* (several direcotires)
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20:36<averythomas>I'll try aptitude safe-upgrade again how long does it normally take?
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20:38<Brigo>averythomas, are you using stable?
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20:43<laoziu>Brigo: wouldnt using AppArmor be more easy for a newcomer?
20:44<Brigo>laoziu, i have never used neither apparmor nor selinux, so i cannot tell you.
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20:47<allorder>maybe chrooting some apps is better on desktop, I dunno
20:47<laoziu>Brigo: what about grsecurity?
20:48<Brigo>laoziu, same :)
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20:48<laoziu>^^
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21:00<MCH>Hello everyone, I'm having a problem with the debian net installer. I am using debian-8.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso which I have burned to dvd. It all runs just fine until I get to a screen labelled '!! Configuring popularity-contest' and it asks me to "Please insert the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20150425-12:50' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter.
21:00<MCH>Initial investigations online reveal that the most likely cause is that the CDROM line was left in the sources.list file in /etc/apt/, however the install doesn't seem to have gotten that far yet since when I drop to a terminal there is no directory /etc/apt. Thoughts?
21:03<Brigo>MCH, check /target/etc/apt
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21:28<MCH>thanks Brigo, the sources.list file is there, but cannot be written. Nano tells me it's a ro file system.
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21:48<phobos>hola
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23:20<car>Hi. If i install a package using a tarball, 'cause it's newer than the Jessie-Package. How do i tell debian, where the dev files are located?
23:21<car>because another deb-package has a dependency which needs those dev-files
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23:23<virtual>car: you'd probably want to make your own package - or take a look at getting the package from unstable
23:24<BUITRE>YEA
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23:26<car>virtual: unstable isnt an option. i made my own package, but another package (which has those dependencies) which i am going to install still wants the 'old' -dev.deb package
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23:26<virtual>Then without upgrading that other package too, I'm unsure what the best course of action is.
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23:27<virtual>curious why unstable is not an option too - doesn't have the latest version?
23:27<virtual>also, you did say you installed using a tarball, not a package, hence my first comment.
23:29<car>virtual: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9a3d26d869aab9247ccf
23:29<car>looks like this
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23:31<virtual>well, that looks especially weird. :)
23:31<car>I build the libimobiledevice using checkinstall (don't really know why but worked). the second step i tried to build gvfs, but it stops saying it needs dev files :)
23:31<car>hehe
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23:31<virtual>dpkg --list | grep libimobile-dev exists?
23:31<dpkg>virtual: i haven't a clue
23:31<virtual>oops ;)
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23:31<car>virtual: no doesnt exist
23:31<virtual>ahh, I see, so libimobile-dev was also manually made into a package, I see.
23:32<virtual>I haven't done much manual package stuff. :/
23:32<car>how do i get dev files from that tarball ?
23:32<car>hehe
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23:32<virtual>not sure, hopefully someone else can help!
23:32<car>ok thx
23:32<virtual>or google? :/
23:32<car>whats google
23:32<car>;)
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23:32<virtual>it's a very large number
23:33<virtual>oh, no, wrong one ;)
23:33<car>ah heard of that
23:33<car>but you spelled it wrong
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23:34<car>but i like the name
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23:35<virtual>heh
23:36<BUITRE>I BEEN TRYING ALL DAY WITH A WINDOWS SEVEN INSTALL INSIDE A PARTITION INTO THIS DISK, HOW TO SAY? DUAL BOOT; FINALY I'AM BACK TO THE AMAZING WORLD OF THE FREE SOFTWARE OF DEBIAN,UBUNTU OR LINUX DISTROS ALL FOR FREE; THANK'S
23:37<virtual>BUITRE: please turn caps lock off :)
23:37<car>But your keyboard seems to got broken during process
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23:42<BUITRE>SORRY I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT ABOUT TURN CAPS OFF MY ENGLISH IS NOT MUCH WELL AND I AM VIRTUALY NEW ON THIS SYSTEM, OR IS THAT SOME KIND OF CONFIG,
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23:43<virtual>BUITRE: caps lock - makes text LOOK LIKE THIS.
23:43<ryouma>which is better for upgrading from wheezy to jessie? (1) do as the manual says and change my existing sources.list lines from wheezy to jessie or (2) do as dpkg here says and change to like "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main"?
23:45<BUITRE>THANKS VIRTUAL, WHAT FOR IS THIS PLACE WHAT IS THIS PLACE
23:45<virtual>BUITRE: If you can please please make your text smaller, that would be super.
23:45<virtual>ryouma: I would imagine they both have the same end result.
23:45<virtual>ryouma: Do you have many lines in your sources.list?
23:48<virtual>ryouma: But, I have to be honest, I haven't actually updated to debian 8 on some of my systems. I've only installed brand new debian 8 machines.
23:48<ryouma>virtual: no, just these http://paste.debian.net/196254/
23:49<virtual>OK - I'm unsure what needs to happen with the backports or the mozilla line.
23:49<virtual>but the first two should be able to be made into just 'jessie'.
23:49<virtual>Are you in the US, ryouma?
23:49<ryouma>great
23:50<ryouma>i am guessing that i should keep backports and delete mozilla
23:50<virtual>hmm, I'm really not sure - I think you might also need to change those into 'jessie-backports' - but I don't know for sure.
23:50<virtual>I'd not delete anything - just comment it out.
23:50<ryouma>that's what i mean
23:51<virtual>ok. :)
23:51<ryouma>i use etckeeper though so even if i did i could git blame away :)
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23:57<BUITRE>YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK ABOUT virtual ,DEBIAN 8 ? IS NOT POLISHED SOME OF THE APLICATIONS DOES'NT WORK LIKE THAT ONE xbmc is crash do not work, and is realy boared (aburrido) and static, like dead.
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