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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-06-13

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04:24<gryps>is there a way to configure systemd to write a pid file for a started service?
04:25<quietone>where to get help with RAID, 'doesn't have enough components to start' ?
04:25<gryps>systemd starts a daemon in the foreground, the daemon then does not create a pid file
04:25<gryps>for monitoring purposes, however, i need a pid file
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04:58<mekt>Interesting that Debian requires Wayland for X Windows now via libegl1-mesa.
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05:01<mekt>You also need hardware accelerated 3D (DRI) to use evolution for e-mail or address book. Using the MESA software rasterizer does not meet dependencies.
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05:46<dutchfish>gryps, at daemon start fork() the child produces a pid when PIDFile= option, so that systemd can identify the main process of the daemon. It is all in the docs
05:46<fektom>hi all
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07:03<alex989>hello guys, I'm new just bought a cubox and installed debian jessie now I tried to install lxde with: sudo apt-get install lxde and after this I've read that I also need xwindow so I also installed it. Now after a reboot I am in a console but supposed to be in lxde or?
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07:05<musca>hello alex989
07:06<musca>hw did you install X11?
07:06<alex989>I flashed an image on my mmc
07:06<alex989>from windows, wit win32 image
07:08<centrx>alex989, lxde installed X, but it may not have installed the program that launches you into X on boot (the display manager)
07:08<centrx>alex989, try apt-get install lxdm
07:08<centrx>alex989, You can also test out X by typing 'startx' on the console
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07:10<alex989>it says unable to locate image lxdm
07:10<alex989>*package not image
07:12<SynrGy>lxdm is not for stable
07:12<SynrGy>lightdm
07:12<alex989>lxdm throws this: http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/view/img3763mi25bk3jdc.jpg
07:12<alex989>if I type startx
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07:14<SynrG>cubox. does an unmodified jessie run on that or do you need a special image from the vendor?
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07:14<alex989>I downloaded a special image from solid-run.com
07:15<alex989>but lightdm seems to work
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07:15<SynrG>we don't support that.
07:15<SynrG>we do support debian as installed by debian-installer ...
07:15<SynrG>but we can't possibly know what modifications were made by the makers of that image. you should ask them for help if you want to use it.
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07:16<alex989>can I rollback all this?
07:17<alex989>so I am back to my working Xfce
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07:20<SynrG>alex989: i don't know what was on the cubie before you installed the special image on it. you mean roll back to what was pre-installed? you need to see cubie's documentation for that. again, nothing we can help with.
07:22<SynrG>as for pure debian, which we do support, see https://wiki.debian.org/CubieBoard
07:22<SynrG>(note, that page also links off-site to third-party derivatives which we do *not* support)
07:23<SynrG>!cubian
07:23<dpkg>Cubian is a <derivative> installation image for a specific <armhf> board; #debian doesn't know what exactly the image contains. Ask in #cubian (irc.freenode.net) about issues with the image itself, #cubieboard (irc.freenode.net) about the hardware, or #linux-sunxi (irc.freenode.net) channel for kernel and driver development.
07:23<SynrG>some non-debian help resources on irc ^^
07:23<SynrG>note, these are on the freenode irc network, not here.
07:25<SynrG>hmm, cubox may not be what i think it is. sec.
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07:26<SynrG>i perhaps made a wrong assumption due to 'cu' in the name. looking
07:27<SynrG>alex989: my mistake. it's 'cube-shaped' and that's the reason for the 'cu' in the name. nothing to do with cubieboard :)
07:28<SynrG>alex989: this is the supported way to install debian on a Cubox: https://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort/CuBox-i
07:28<SynrG>alex989: unfortunately, there is no debian installer support for it. but if you manage it via a debootstrap, we can help.
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07:32<SynrG>alex989: from the cubox wiki, i found http://download.solid-run.com/pub/solidrun/cubox-i/Debian/Jessi-repackaged-trial/ ... the directory name makes me think maybe it's not ready for release?
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07:33<alex989>that's exactly what I downloaded
07:34<SynrG>ok. well, the cubox community would have to help you with it, *if* you continue to use it. or you could follow the debootstrap instructions from the debian wiki i linked above and then we could help with it here.
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07:34<SynrG>clearly the image is modified in some way, e.g. username 'debian', password 'debian' is not a default debian configuration ... and who knows what other changes they made
07:34<alex989>I have windows so the best would be a ready image
07:34<SynrG>(they == makers of the special image)
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07:35<SynrG>alex989: i understand your preference, but then we can't support you here. sorry.
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07:35<alex989>so how am I going to install it? I think the tutorial in for linux users
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07:36<alex989>correct me if I am wrong
07:37<SynrG>you could boot a live linux image and use that to do the debootstrap of the cubox.
07:37<SynrG>see http://www.debian.org/CD/live, for example
07:37<alex989>I think this will be complicated as I run windows 8.1 uefi on my alienware laptop
07:37<SynrG>yes, that would complicate matters.
07:38<SynrG>you could run Debian in a VM
07:38<SynrG>i'm sure the alienware laptop has enough resources for that
07:39<alex989>I have bad experience with vm.. the last time I had no access to usb and cardreader
07:39<alex989>and it was laggy af.. felt like 10fps
07:39<SynrG>virtualbox?
07:39<alex989>yes
07:39<SynrG>these are both configuration problems.
07:39<SynrG>#vbox @ irc.freenode.net can help with that.
07:40<alex989>okay thanks
07:40<SynrG>good luck. hoping the best for you
07:40<SynrG>tip for usb ...
07:40<SynrG>you need to install the extension pack
07:40<alex989>I just take a break now and watch some tv.. trying to set up my cubox for 3 days already with no results
07:41<SynrG>note, the extension pack is *not* the guest additions. that's something else.
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07:41<SynrG>and for the video, you need the guest additions installed in the guest OS
07:41<SynrG>yeah
07:41<SynrG>sounds like a pain
07:42<alex989>linux is really user unfriendly.. that's my first impression
07:42<alex989>I needed 2 hours to get used to windows 98 back in the days
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07:42<SynrG>but then win98 does far less for you than linux does. so you take the tradeoff.
07:43<SynrG>linux is complex, adaptable, but to take advantage of adapting it to new environments, you need to work at it.
07:43<SynrG>many "out of the box" linux experiences are easy. this just isn't one of them.
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07:43<alex989>well I just want to browse and run some bot clients with the cubox.. so sad that there is no ready image with basic functionalities
07:43<SynrG>anyway, this is off-topic for #debian (#debian-offtopic is for conversations like this)
07:44<alex989>any image I install is in pre alpha or just shows a black console
07:44<alex989>every*
07:44<SynrG>yeah. i feel for you.
07:44<SynrG>maybe the older wheezy image works? do they have one?
07:44<SynrG>wheezy-based, i should say
07:44<SynrG>(again, since it's not an official debian image, it has no support here)
07:44<alex989>yes will try that
07:45<SynrG>again, good luck.
07:45<alex989>but in #cubox-devel where I already asked my question they said that it is so basic that you should be able to help
07:45<SynrG>and see if the cubox guys have their own irc cupport
07:45<alex989>even if it's "not supported" there are a lot of similarities
07:45<SynrG>!based on debian
07:45<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
07:46<SynrG>unfortunately, they're wrong about that.
07:46<alex989>okay.. I just have no idea about all that linux yet
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07:47<SynrG>alex989: yeah. having a strange, niche box like the cubox be your introduction to linux may not be the best place to start :/
07:48<SynrG>not if your goal is to come up to speed on linux in general.
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07:49<alex989>If the cubox supported windows I'd have installed it. I don't want to code or run servers or stuff I just need basic functions in a small device that makes no noise
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07:57<jelly>wtf is a cubox
07:58*jelly has a couple allwinner boards, including the first cubieboard
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08:00<tethra>cubox is a little arm thing with gbit ethernet and other niceties
08:01<jelly>cubox-i is i.MX6 based, so not sunxi (allwinner soc) or cubian related at all. On the other hand freescale i.MX6 has much better support with free drivers
08:02<jelly>there are hundreds of little arms things now, all different
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08:04<jelly>and hundreds or more ways to get debian on them, each specific to a certain board, usually from custom image whose contents are unknown to us here in #debian
08:05<jelly>(*) Note that due to internal i.MX6 buses the 1000Mbps interface speed is limited to 470Mbps # *cough*USB2*cough*
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08:25<gryps>dutchfish: the documentation says: "systemd will not write to the file configured here"
08:25<gryps>dutchfish: so this is actually not what i need
08:26<gryps>dutchfish: i need to have systemd do the same as start-stop-daemon, creating a pid file if the started service has no pid file creation implemented
08:27<gryps>actually, the systemd move is implemented quite badly
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08:27<gryps>for example, on sysv init haveged creates a pidfile
08:28<gryps>as soon as debian is upgraded to systemd, haveged will be invoked with --Foreground, and then haveged ignores any option provided to create a pid file
08:28<gryps>happens with other packages as well
08:29<gryps>from my point of view this is a regression, as monitoring systems like monit break, as soon no pid file is available anymore
08:32<gryps>it's also kind a ridiculous that a lot of packages shop a sysv5 init script as well as a service unit file at the same time
08:32<gryps>s/shop/ship/
08:32<gryps>if you have a mixed environment (sysv5 and systemd enabled systems) this is quite confusing
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08:54<alex654>what was the vitrual box linux irc?
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10:23<cmorton>Trying to get some help with davmail, i keep getting java invalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
10:23<cmorton>?
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10:27<dtluna>Hello, i have a problem with synaptic and apt-get.
10:27<dtluna>Error messages: http://i.imgur.com/A1R6Uw4.png
10:28<themill>dtluna: did you recently change to using https in your sources.list? (why?)
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10:29<dtluna>I did not change, but there are some repos with https
10:30<themill>not many and it's not really helpful from a security perspective
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10:30<dtluna>Still, it is not a problem repos
10:30<dtluna>It's a problem of Segfault with https
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10:31<themill>So the quick solution is to use http instead and then you might be able to work out why https is failing
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10:31<Ryccardo>I remember having some (unrelated) problems related to apt-transport-https
10:31<dtluna>Right, it's a quick and dirty one. But what is the *actual* solution?
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10:32<Ryccardo>there can be 1000 reasons for a generic program crashing... :)
10:32<themill>you'd need to run it within a debugger to find that out
10:32<dtluna>Okay, what should I do then?
10:33<Ryccardo>it went away for me after either installing or removing apt-transport-https, can't remember well
10:34<Ryccardo>I had zero https repos, though
10:36<dtluna>Well okay, I'll just remove the https repos. Luckily enough, there are only 2 of them.
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10:52<cmorton>Can anyone help me with my java error?
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10:58<morsicus_>Is there some users of LXC ? lxc-ls --fancy is very slow :s any idea ?
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10:59<cmorton>I'm also getting a cinnamon crash on start
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11:49<canaima-popular_>HOLA COMO ESTAS
11:50<canaima-popular_>hola como esta
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11:56<canaima-popular_>hola porque no responden
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11:57<ansgar>!es
11:57<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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11:58<canaima-popular_>hola
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12:18<nadley>hi all
12:18<nadley>clear
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12:25<nadley>I'm looking for help about debian preseeding and partman, I would like to do something like this : http://pastebin.com/VphePvqK. Is there a way to do that through preseeding ? or not ? thanks
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12:32<Brigo>nadley, ask in #debian-cd channel
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12:38<sethu>test
12:38<sethu>help regarding ssl vpn
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12:43<Heimdall>How do you change debian to only be accessed from LAN?
12:43<nadley>Brigo: ok I'm actually asking on #debian-boot
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12:45<Heimdall>I'm trying to find information on how to set up a file server that will not connect to the internet. I'm using a bare bones jessie so I have to make these changes from the terminal.
12:46<Heimdall>If someone would just throw me a link that would be a great help. all the material I have found is for setting up debian on lan which isn't useful.
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12:49<Heimdall>Would it be easier to just use a different OS, maybe IPFIRE?
12:50<Heimdall>It should be a pretty simple thing to setup. I just need someone to give me something to work with.
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12:59<dpkg>[iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables or ask me about <iptables-restore>. http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <ferm>, <lartc>, <masq>, <ulogd>.
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13:04<jhutchins>Heimdall: It's not clear what you're asking.
13:04<jhutchins>Heimdall: What do you specifically want to do?
13:05<Heimdall>jhutchins: I have a file server that I don't connecting to the internet. I just want to use it over LAN.
13:05<Heimdall>I hope that makes sense, sorry if I'm not explaining it correctly.
13:05<Heimdall>I can't find information on this anywhere, but it should be pretty standard.
13:07<jhutchins>Heimdall: It's because there's no "setting" or anything like that. Set it up on the LAN as an ordinary fileserver, don't set up an external connection on your firewall/router that forwards to it.
13:07<jhutchins>Heimdall: If you don't want to be able to reach the 'net itself, you can just not set the gateway, but that's really unnecessary.
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13:12<wurm>hi...
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13:13<wurm>just finished debian cinnamon edition install but all videos from yt are black but there is sound, can you help please?
13:14<wurm>ps. im running iceweasel 38.0.1
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13:15<PaulePanter>Hi. With Aptitude, I could upgrade only certain packages.
13:15<PaulePanter>aptitude safe-upgrade openssl
13:15<PaulePanter>How can I do tha with `apt` or `apt-get`?
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13:17<jhutchins>PaulePanter: Why?
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13:18<Heimdall>jhutchins: I don't understand. I have a pc that I installed debian and samba on. I hooked it up to my router and now I can access my files and work through this server. However, I now want to add some protection to it be cutting it off from the rest of the internet. How do I do make this happen?
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13:19<jhutchins>Heimdall: There's really no need. Your internal networks is something like 192.168.something, right?
13:19<Heimdall>yes
13:19<musca>PaulePanter: apt-get install <package>
13:20<jhutchins>External systems can't see that, and your router will not forward attempted connections to internal addresses. Usually only your router has an actual internet address.
13:20<wurm>dont know if this works
13:20<PaulePanter>musca: Thanks.
13:21<Heimdall>jhutchins: I just don't see what good it is for the pc to be able to access the internet though. I am concerned that the pc could be hacked and It seems to be a good idea to insolate the pc to lan only.
13:21<PaulePanter>jhutchins: Because there is a package which I want to upgrade later, because it’ll cause a down-time.
13:21<jhutchins>Heimdall: The router already does that.
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13:21<musca>PaulePanter: apt-mark hold <package>
13:22<musca>will prevent upgrading of that package
13:23<Heimdall>jhutchins: So your saying that the pc can't be accessed outside the network in anyway even though I can go in and ping google on it?
13:23<PaulePanter>musca: Thanks.
13:23<jhutchins>Heimdall: Correct.
13:24<Heimdall>jhutchins: Well, then if you have the time, explain how someone can hack into a network at all then? It sounds like your saying hacking is not possible....
13:24<jhutchins>Heimdall: There are some very esoteric techniques that could theoretically reach it, and there are man-in-the-middle attacks that can take advantage of connections you initiate, but you would have to be a high-value target for those to be worth the effort.
13:25<musca>Heimdall: it really doesn't add any security if you disallow direct connection. The typical attack will hit one of the client systems first.
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13:26<jhutchins>Heimdall: Most "hacking" you're referring to happens when there is an external service configured.
13:26<wurm>so anybody can help me getting videos to play without flash im on debian8 testing and have html5 everywhere addon on iceweasel 38.0.1 but there is only audio and black screen?
13:26<Heimdall>jhutchins: basically, your saying that only once you have accessed the network it is possible to hack into the pc itself. Unless you do a "man in the middle" and intercept the data, which I suppose would only be through wifi?
13:26<jhutchins>Heimdall: Windows systems are often vulnerable to malware that gets installed internally and initiates an external connction.
13:26<musca>wurm: debian 8 is stable
13:26<wurm>*debian testing
13:27<jhutchins>Heimdall: mitm can happen on wired internet as well, someone intercepts a connection to google or something and passes it through, hitchhinking on the return traffic.
13:27<musca>wurm: please try the #debian-next channel then
13:27<Heimdall>jhutchins: I believe that the system is stable and I love linux. I am just trying to make sure that all of my data can't be deleted or corrupted by some bored teenager down the street.
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13:28<jhutchins>Heimdall: Do you have wifi?
13:28<Heimdall>yes
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13:28<Heimdall>that is how all of the other computers are accessing the server.
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13:29<Heimdall>through the wifi samba shares.
13:29<Heimdall>I plan on setting up nfs at some point too.
13:29<jhutchins>Heimdall: That's your biggest vulnerability then. Make sure it's properly secured, and use some signal strength app to see how far the "cloud" extends. It usually doesn't reach much beyond a typicall suburban house.
13:30<Heimdall>jhutchins: my wifi seems to extend to about 300ft off my property and I'm completely boxed in by other homes.
13:31<Heimdall>I have a strong password with high entropy but I don't know what else I could do.
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13:32<Heimdall>I'm hoping to learn some of the kali linux material some day to help find more vulnerablities but i'm still pretty new to all this
13:32<jhutchins>Heimdall: Just be aware of what's happening on your network. Check your logs occasionally.
13:33<Heimdall>I have made it where no new devices can connect and accounted for the 12+ devices that are connected. I haven't found the log on the netgear rounter though.
13:34<Heimdall>jhutchins: I'm guessing that is pretty safe right?
13:34<jhutchins>Heimdall: You might want to subscribe to the security mailing list, but if you don't have any external services, and don't allow any public connections, you really don't have much to worry about.
13:34<Heimdall>I'm just a bit paranoid and with all this chinese stuff in the news I'm starting to think everyone's about to get hacked...
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13:35<jhutchins>Heimdall: Unfortunately, the security of that part of the federal networks was very lax. I used to work for them. (I'm probably in the dataset.)
13:35<ansgar>Heimdall: Chinese? I always thought it's usually the NSA or associated criminal organizations?
13:35<Heimdall>jhutchins: what do you mean external services?
13:36<Heimdall>ansgar: I honestly don't know who is behind it anymore. They make it sound like kids could bring us down tomorrow.
13:37<jhutchins>For instance I have a web server and an ssh connection forwarded from my router to systems inside my network. I have to be a little more careful than you do.
13:37<Heimdall>That's why I don't watch the news, but somehow I still pick up enough to get spooked.
13:37<jhutchins>Heimdall: That was a very high-effort professional, military attack on a vulnerable system.
13:38<Heimdall>jhutchins: so you mean anything that servers other people outside your network. mail servers, web servers, and the like.
13:38<ansgar>Heimdall: Well, if people put the control interface for water processing plants and the like without and password protection into the public network... But if you don't accept incoming connections, it's fairly safe from random passerbys.
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13:40<ansgar>Heimdall: You still should do backups on external media from time to time. Ideally store them in a different building too (in case of fire).
13:40<Heimdall>jhutchins: I understand that it was a goverment scale operation, but if the goverment can get hacked then anyone can be hacked/
13:41<Heimdall>ansgar: I am too lazy to have it in another building but I do back up onto another set of hardrives that aren't coneected to the server. If my home burns down I doubt I'll be worried about my computer files.
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13:44<ioc>hi all
13:44<Heimdall>jhutchins: Thank you for your time I really appreciate you helping me out.
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13:46<jhutchins>Heimdall: This is an article on how you would set up an internal server to be externally reachable but secure: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/TrinityOS/cHTML/TrinityOS-c.html
13:46<jhutchins>Heimdall: It assumes you're using a linux system as a router. A bit dated, but still among the best guides.
13:48<Heimdall>jhutchins: It doesn't load in my browser for some reason.
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13:48<Heimdall>jhutchins: Says I don't have permission to access.
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13:49<Heimdall>It's all good though. I'm satisfied with what you told me.
13:49<jhutchins>Heimdall: Argh! That was one of my best resources! Well, here's a simpler version by the same guy: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
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13:53<Heimdall>jhutchins: Masquerade looks like a very complex firewall setup. Your suggesting that I set this up on the file server?
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13:57<jhutchins>Heimdall: No, no, most routers have something just as good these days, that's just for you to learn about the process.
13:59<jhutchins>Heimdall: More: http://ebookandpdf.proxy-docs.com/security-info/120751-securing-linux-step-by-step-by-david-ranch-lee-2.html
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14:01<jhutchins>Heimdall: Ah, here's the page I was looking for if you're interested: http://www.trinityos.com/LINUX/index-linux.html
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14:18<fchmmr>Debian is working on reproducible builds; can someone who is in the know link me to information about building GRUB in a reproducible way?
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14:42<egggs>hello all
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14:49<joelkraehemann>hi
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14:54<alex110>what to do if a jar just crashes right away?
14:54<joelkraehemann>run in terminal and share stack-trace
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14:55<joelkraehemann>java -jar javaapp.jar
14:55<alex110>ok one sec
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15:01<PhilGEE>What's the preferred method for vnc access? I've installed xdrp and also fiddled around with vnc4server but I always seem to get just a blank screen an an "X" instead of the gnome desktop
15:01<alex110>And where is the stacktrace now?
15:02<joelkraehemann>on your terminal
15:02<joelkraehemann>something with you Exception
15:02<alex110>The only line that was added in terminal is: The loader channel is JAR.
15:03<alex110>The file is from https://rsbuddy.com/osbuddy/ I downloaded the "Crossplatform" type
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15:07<joelkraehemann>try to extract the jar's Manifest.mf to figure out the class including main()
15:07<joelkraehemann>what is the jar called
15:07<alex110>OSBuddy.jar
15:08<alex110>it's a game client
15:08<alex110>what am I going to do with the main( ?
15:09<joelkraehemann>what gives you: java -classpath $JAVA_HOME;OSBuddy.jar OSBuddy
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15:11<joelkraehemann>alex110, java needs to know it.
15:12<alex110>one second
15:12<alex110>I just try to run irc2go on my linux but it says that java plugin is needed
15:13<alex110>maybe you help me to solve this first? :P
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15:13<joelkraehemann>firefox?
15:13<alex110>iceweasel
15:13<joelkraehemann>java is probably disabled go to Add-ons
15:14<alex110>I don't have any extensions or plugins installed
15:14<Ryccardo>it's not installed by default either, check out a package that's named somewhat like "icedtea-7"
15:15<Ryccardo>icedtea-plugin
15:15<joelkraehemann>try openjdk-8-jre
15:15<Ryccardo>java 8 isn't in stable, for some reason
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15:18<alex110>it says unable to locate package openjdk.. but icedtea installs currently
15:19<joelkraehemann>what about openjdk-7-jre
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15:19<Ryccardo>^ that one exists
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15:21<alex110>I have this one already
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15:22<joelkraehemann> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/java -jar OSBuddy.jar
15:23<joelkraehemann>first, export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64
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15:23<alex110>wait a second first I need to get irc2go running to copy your commands^^.. I can't type all that
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15:30<alex322>yeay icetea plugin works :)
15:30<alex322>so now again what should I do?
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15:32<joelkraehemann>alex322, in terminal do the following
15:32<joelkraehemann>export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64
15:33<joelkraehemann> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/java -jar OSBuddy.jar
15:34<alex322>bash: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/bin/java: No such file or directory
15:35<Ryccardo>what does `which java` say?
15:35<alex322>usr bin java
15:36<Ryccardo>`ls -l /usr/bin/java` ?
15:36<alex322>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jun 13 14:44 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
15:37<Ryccardo>well, if you only ever installed openjdk-7-jre it's guaranteed to be that
15:37<Ryccardo>or `update-alternatives --list java` :)
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15:40<alex322>oh it's not amd it's arm device by the way
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15:40<Ryccardo>java should be platform independent, not sure if it can do like Android and embed compiled code though
15:41<alex322> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-armhf/jre/bin/java
15:41<alex322>yes but in his command joel wrote "...-amd64..."
15:42<Ryccardo>he assumed :)
15:42<alex322>so it is the same command for arm devices?
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15:43<Ryccardo>the ultimate command, /usr/bin/java, which appears in your path as "java", is :)
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15:43<alex322>so what now :(
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15:47<alex322>maybe you can check whether the client runs on your system?
15:48<Ryccardo>it appears to work there...
15:48<Ryccardo>how much ram do you have?
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15:49<joelkraehemann>JAVA_HOME is wrong
15:50<alex322>2gb
15:50<joelkraehemann>I mean it still points to amd64
15:50<alex322>I don't know I just wondered
15:51<alex301>so how to fix that wrong home directory
15:51<Ryccardo>check `env |grep JAVA_HOME`
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15:52<alex322>nothing
15:52<joelkraehemann>export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-armhf
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15:53<Ryccardo>
15:53<alex322>still nothing
15:53<alex322>if I export it shows no errors
15:53<joelkraehemann>rerun your jar
15:53<alex322>how?
15:53<Ryccardo>my Pi2 is broken, or I'll have tried it there...
15:53<Ryccardo>as usual, java -jar OSbuddy.jar
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15:55<alex322>still the same result
15:55<alex322>it pops up for 0.5 sec and crashes right away
15:55<cmorton>How can I fix cinnamon, i keep getting it fails on started up would you like to fall back to software rendering or restart
15:55<joelkraehemann>any stacktrace for now?
15:55<alex301>nope
15:56<cmorton>i get undefined symbol:meta_plugin_type_register when i run cinnamon -reset
15:57<alex301>Ryccardo you say you succesfully ran the jar?
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15:58<Ryccardo>yep, but on an amd64 computer (again, not that it should matter, but maybe in practice it does because it's big endian or something)
16:01<joelkraehemann>java -Dlog4j.appender.stdout=org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender -Dlog4j.appender.stdout.Target=System.out -jar OSbuddy.jar
16:01<joelkraehemann>Just give a try
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16:02<alex322>Error: Unable to access jarfile OSbuddy.jar
16:02<alex322>oh wrong letter
16:02<alex322>OSBuddy :)
16:03<alex322>debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$ sudo java -Dlog4j.appender.stdout=org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender -Dlog4j.appender.stdout.Target=System.out -jar OSBuddy.jar The loader channel is JAR debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$
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16:03<alex322>this time it popped up for a little bit longer^
16:04<joelkraehemann>It shouldn't fix rather give a hint
16:04*Ryccardo oh, another Freescaler :)
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16:07<morsicus_>I have some issue on my debian … i m using iptables but it result only strange error >>> http://pastebin.com/mv0Jg64Z
16:07<PhilGEE>What's the preferred method for vnc access? I've installed xdrp and also fiddled around with vnc4server but I always seem to get just a blank screen an an "X" instead of the gnome desktop
16:08<morsicus_>If some one can help me :s
16:10<Ryccardo>PhilGEE: looks like X is starting a new session with no programs, but I don't know the solution
16:10<PhilGEE>thanks Ryccardo
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16:13<joelkraehemann>alex322, java -classpath $JAVA_HOME;$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
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16:33<alex301>so no more ideas?
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16:35<alex322>debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$ java -classpath $JAVA_HOME;$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader Usage: java [-options] class [args...] (to execute a class) or java [-options] -jar jarfile [args...] (to execute a jar file) where options include: -d32 use a 32-bit data model if available -d64 use a 64-bit data model if available -server to select the "server" VM -jamvm to select the "jamvm"
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16:36<Ryccardo>alex322: no, don't use "-jar" in that case
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16:36<alex322>http://pastebin.com/mTQbQPkf for better reading
16:37<alex322>what do you mean ryccardo?
16:38<Ryccardo>nevermind, are you in the same folder as OSBuddy.jar?
16:38<alex322>100% yes
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16:42<Ryccardo>alex322: that command is right (even though JAVA_HOME is implied anyway), might even be a fault of the JVM...
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16:43<alex322>jesus christ
16:43<alex322>I had to edit properties and set "execute" from "nobody" to "only owner"
16:44<alex322>now it says:
16:44<alex322>bash: /home/debian/Desktop/OSBuddy.jar: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
16:44<Ryccardo>well, to directly run jars like that you need to somehow register java with the "binfmt" system, and most likely it won't help with this anyway
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16:45<alex322>but isn't it still some kind of progress?
16:46<alex322>no it's not I'm afraid :(
16:47<Ryccardo>no, it's worse -- crashes immediately vs. doesn't launch because it's not machine code yet it's unassociated :)
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16:47<alex322>yea now I understand what I tried :P
16:48<Ryccardo>oh, there's a program that "fully compiles" Java to your computer's CPU... but I still doubt it will help
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16:50<alex322>oh I just noticed that synaptic doesn't start either
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16:52<morsicus_>Someone can help me with iptables ? I think it's going crazy and so do I :D 
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16:53<morsicus_>I'm pretty sure to give a correct command … but iptables answer with errors :s
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16:54<morsicus_>http://pastebin.com/mv0Jg64Z // Any help will be very appreciated :D 
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17:11<alex322>what the.. synaptic crashes all the time and says "killing" forever until I reboot
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17:15<joelkraehemann>change -classpath to -cp
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17:16<joelkraehemann>There's a platform incompatibility of -classpath and -cp
17:16<alex322>you mean concerning java or the new problem?
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17:17<joelkraehemann>concerning java
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17:18<alex322>java -classpath $JAVA_HOME;$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
17:19<alex322>yea ok
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17:19<alex322>-su: /root/OSBuddy.jar: No such file or directory
17:19<alex322>it is located on desktop
17:19<Ryccardo>hm? not as superuser
17:19<joelkraehemann>just as ordinary user, java -cp $JAVA_HOME;$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
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17:20<alex322>how can I change the user?
17:21<joelkraehemann>su USERNAME
17:21<Ryccardo>don't use `su` ?
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17:21<alex322>I didn't
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17:21<alex322>I am currently root at debian
17:21<alex322>but I logged as debian at debian
17:21<Ryccardo>why did it say "-su: /root/OSBuddy.jar [...]" then?
17:22<alex322>ah I just had to relaunch terminal
17:22<alex322>I used it before
17:23<alex322>http://pastebin.com/SGb38m4D
17:24<Ryccardo>try this: `java -cp $JAVA_HOME:/path/to/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader`
17:25<alex322>Error: Could not find or load main class com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
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17:25<joelkraehemann>sorry replace ; with \;
17:25<joelkraehemann>I mean
17:25<joelkraehemann>java -cp $JAVA_HOME\:$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
17:26<alex322>Error: Could not find or load main class com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
17:26<joelkraehemann>do exactly what I wrote
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17:26<alex322>Error: Could not find or load main class com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
17:26<joelkraehemann>replace ; with \:
17:26<Ryccardo>you're in the folder with OSBuddy.jar, right?
17:26<alex322>java -cp $JAVA_HOME\:$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
17:27<alex322>this is the command
17:27<alex322>oh no I forgot that I restarted terminal
17:27<alex322>have to go back to desktop now >.<
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17:28<alex322>debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$ java -cp $JAVA_HOME\:$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader The loader channel is JAR debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$
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17:29<joelkraehemann>May be this causes Problem:
17:29<joelkraehemann>java.lang.NullPointerException
17:29<joelkraehemann>Is it connected to internet?
17:29<alex301>you mean the client?
17:29<alex301>yes it is an online game
17:30<joelkraehemann>did it start?
17:30<alex301>no
17:30<alex301>just pop up and crash right away
17:30<joelkraehemann>any output?
17:30<alex301>like always The loader channel is JAR
17:30<alex301>and that's all
17:31<alex301>or do you mean whether the client had output? no
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17:33<joelkraehemann>When did you download the jar?
17:33<alex301>today
17:34<joelkraehemann>do you have a firewall?
17:34<alex301>I didn't install any
17:35<alex301>don't know
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17:36<martin__>hi people
17:36<martin__>i have a question
17:36<martin__>it is about mint
17:36<martin__>may i ask here?
17:36<joelkraehemann>alex301, what gives you: ping cdn.rsbuddy.com
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17:36<martin__>hello?
17:37<Ryccardo>martin__: well, we probably don't know about Mint-specific issues, but general unix-like questions maybe yes
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17:37<martin__>ok
17:37<martin__>i installed mint 17.1 KDE
17:37<martin__>but it doesnt works super fast and fluid
17:37<alex322>PING cds.z3r4d7m5.hwcdn.net (69.16.175.10) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from hwcdn.net (69.16.175.10): icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=38.1 ms 64 bytes from hwcdn.net (69.16.175.10): icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=40.2 ms and so on
17:37<joelkraehemann>alex301, still here
17:38<martin__>and it should be.. because of the pc
17:38<martin__>the pc is a monster
17:38<martin__>what can i do to make it a lot faster?
17:38<joelkraehemann>alex322, that's good
17:39<Ryccardo>martin__: better to ask in Mint's support channel then, they may likely have changed something in such a big package as KDE
17:39<martin__>ok
17:39<martin__>how do i get in mint´s channel?
17:40<martin__>never mind.. i´m on it already
17:40<Ryccardo>good luck!
17:41<martin__>thanx
17:41<martin__>u 2
17:42<joelkraehemann>alex322, do you use a proxy?
17:43<alex301>nope
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17:46<orthogonal>When I attempt to send a message through a remote SMTP server in Debian,
17:46<orthogonal>It times out if the message is over ~1410 bytes
17:46<joelkraehemann>Ryccardo, how do you know if there's a proxy config from dhcp?
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17:47<alex301>if you have to actively do something to configure a proxy - I definitely didn't
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17:47<Ryccardo>joelkraehemann: regular dhcp can't set a proxy, for all I know, but check out the variable HTTP_PROXY
17:47<orthogonal>I've used icedove, sylpheed and reportbug with the smtp servers smtp.openmailbox.org and smtp.bitmessage.ch
17:48<orthogonal>When I do the same thing using Windows, there is no problem
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17:48<orthogonal>I'm running sid
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17:48<orthogonal>And I just reinstalled Debian
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17:50<joelkraehemann>option local-proxy-config "http://www.example.org/proxy.pac";
17:51<joelkraehemann>NetworkManager doesn't make it easier
17:51<alex322>bash: option: command not found
17:52<joelkraehemann>nmcli c
17:52<joelkraehemann>alex322, type in above
17:52<alex322>bash: nmcli: command not found
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17:55<alex301>maybe I have to install some package?
17:56<joelkraehemann>how is your network managed?
17:56<alex301>I don't know :D
17:56<joelkraehemann>how do you get connectivity
17:57<alex301>wlan
17:57<joelkraehemann>do you use NetworkManager
17:57<alex301>no
17:57<joelkraehemann>how did you configure network
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17:58<alex322>wicd network manager
17:58<joelkraehemann>what is wicd
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17:58<alex301>how do I know it was preinstalled
17:58<orthogonal>It's an alternative network manager
17:59<Ryccardo>that doesn't need systemd :)
17:59<joelkraehemann>don't know how to watch dhcp options received in it
17:59<alex301>I even don't know what dhcp is..
18:00<orthogonal>The way that your IP address is assigned
18:00<Ryccardo>joelkraehemann: it doesn't do dhcp itself, it uses a selectable external program
18:00<alex301>I just bought this thing 3 days ago and still try to get it running
18:00<Ryccardo>defaults to dhclient iirc
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18:01<joelkraehemann>cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
18:01<joelkraehemann>what is in the dhclient.leases file?
18:01<alex322>http://pastebin.com/MSJXi4Sy
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18:03<joelkraehemann>wired is up, do you have connectivety with it?
18:03<Ryccardo>good night & luck, have to unplug wifi to connect SD adapter
18:03<alex301>with lan you mean? no
18:03<alex301>good night Ryccardo and thanks a lot for your help
18:04<joelkraehemann>set down all network cards not used
18:04<alex301>thanks to both of you in advance you and joel.. without you guys i would have thrown this thing in the bin already
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18:04<alex301>I think the cubox only has one network card or?
18:05<orthogonal>check with ifconfig -a
18:06<orthogonal>The network cards have wlan followed by a number
18:06<alex322>I have eth0 lo and wlan0
18:06<orthogonal>Ok, yeah, only one network card
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18:06<joelkraehemann>do: ifconfig eth0 down
18:07<alex322>okay
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18:07<joelkraehemann>rerun the jar
18:08-!-mode/#debian [+l 701] by debhelper
18:08<alex322>still the same
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18:08<alex322>isn't it possible that the jar file has an error log or something?
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18:15<orthogonal>Ah, I didn't realise that there was #debian-next. I'll ask my question there.
18:16<alex301>joel does the jar run on your system?
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18:19<joelkraehemann>yes it does but its an amd64
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18:19<alex301>what is your main idea in all your operations that you suggest me?
18:20<joelkraehemann>I even get more output
18:20<alex301>maybe it's the special version of debian that I run
18:20<alex301>because I've read that they customize it for every device
18:23<joelkraehemann>run java with -verbose switch
18:23<alex301>how
18:23<joelkraehemann> java -verbose -cp $JAVA_HOME\:$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader
18:24<joelkraehemann>and show me the output
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18:24<alex322>it doesn't fit in the terminal
18:24<alex322>how to increase the cache?
18:25<alex322>or can't I write the output into a file somehow?
18:25<joelkraehemann>yes into file
18:25<alex322>how
18:25<joelkraehemann>java -verbose -cp $JAVA_HOME\:$PWD/OSBuddy.jar com.osbuddy.loader.Loader &> log
18:27<alex322>http://pastebin.com/MPUCByqX
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18:33<joelkraehemann>alex322, that's not all?
18:34<canaima>helaz
18:34<canaima>hola
18:34<alex301>eh I opened the log with gedit -> right click -> select all -> paste
18:34<canaima>what?
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18:35<alex322>http://www.file-upload.net/download-10688197/log.html
18:35<alex322>here's the log file (I just recreated it)
18:35<joelkraehemann>is your video card correctly configured?
18:36<joelkraehemann>do you have 3d support?
18:36<alex322>I would guess it's not because when I move the windows around they lag very bad
18:36<canaima>efgkgyvfbrgayugfbvyvbuygeku
18:37<joelkraehemann>apt-get install driconf
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18:37<alex322>I just know that I have the cubox i4 pro
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18:38<joelkraehemann>do you have mesa installed?
18:38<joelkraehemann>I don't know cubox i4 pro
18:38<alex322>me neither ;)
18:38<joelkraehemann>did you apt-get install driconf
18:39<alex322>yes installing now
18:39<alex322>done
18:39<joelkraehemann>and apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx
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18:40<karlox>hi!
18:40<joelkraehemann>hi
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18:41<joelkraehemann>alex322, are you ready
18:41<alex322>it's still installing
18:42<alex322>I started right after you posted
18:42<alex322>donw
18:42<alex322>done*
18:42<joelkraehemann>Since you want to do 3d graphics I would recommend it accelerated
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18:43<joelkraehemann>show me, lspci -v
18:43<alex322>no output
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18:44<joelkraehemann>for sure
18:44<alex322>debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$ lspci -v debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$ sudo lspci -v
18:44<joelkraehemann>I need to know what driver is loaded
18:46<joelkraehemann>and glxinfo
18:46<joelkraehemann>glxinfo &> gpu.log
18:46<alex322>debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
18:47<joelkraehemann>this is bad
18:47<alex322>what does it mean
18:48<joelkraehemann>what is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
18:48<joelkraehemann>run driconf
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18:49<alex322>There comes a window error message
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18:49<cmorton>How can I fix cinnamon, i keep getting it fails on started up would you like to fall back to software rendering or restart
18:49<cmorton>i get undefined symbol:meta_plugin_type_register when i run cinnamon -reset
18:49<alex322>Could not detect any configurable direct-rendering capable devices. DRIconf will be started in expert mode.
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18:50<joelkraehemann>alex322, try a reboot
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18:52<cmorton>can anyone help me fix cinnamon?
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18:52<allorder>!ask
18:52<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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18:53<alex301>I also don't understand why this happens since I switched from lan to wlan : http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/view/img3766ze2mty6akw.jpg
18:53<alex301>It takes very long now to boot because of this
18:54<alex301>click on "Vergrößern" to rotate the image
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18:54<joelkraehemann>alex301, is this normal behaviour
18:55-!-alex658 [~alex@pD9FAFA22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
18:56<alex658>I am back
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18:56<joelkraehemann>glxinfo
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18:56<cmorton>glxgears renders for me
18:57<alex658>http://pastebin.com/Xf5dhs8N
18:57<joelkraehemann>cmorton, do you have driconf
18:57<cmorton>nope
18:57<joelkraehemann>apt-get install driconf
18:58<joelkraehemann>alex368, your windows are better for now?
18:58<cmorton>done and done
18:58<alex658>no
18:58<joelkraehemann>cmorton, run driconf
18:58<alex658>as bad as always
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18:58<joelkraehemann>alex368, what desktop are you using?
18:58<alex658>lxde
18:59<alex658>or lxdm idk something like that
18:59<joelkraehemann>alex358, run driconf
18:59<alex658>Screen "0" is not direct rendering capable.
19:00<joelkraehemann>alex658, apt-get install libegl1-mesa-drivers
19:00<cmorton>brb
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19:01<alex658>done
19:01<alex658>I already had it
19:01<joelkraehemann>alex658, which X
19:01<alex658>it says 0 upgraded 0 installed 0 to remove and 50 not upgraded
19:02<joelkraehemann>apt-get install libgegl-0.2-0
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19:02<cmorton>didnt work, still fails and force me into fallback mode
19:02<joelkraehemann>apt-get install libegl1-mesa
19:03<joelkraehemann>cmorton, what video hardware do you have?
19:03<alex658>done
19:03<cmorton>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
19:03<cmorton>i can render glxgears
19:03<cmorton>just fine
19:03<cmorton>cmorton@debian:~/Desktop$ cinnamon -reset
19:03<cmorton>cinnamon: symbol lookup error: cinnamon: undefined symbol: meta_plugin_type_register
19:04<joelkraehemann>cmorton, what driver in use
19:05<joelkraehemann>alex658, modprobe drm
19:05<alex658>was the "apt-get install libegl1-mesa " for me?
19:05<joelkraehemann>yes
19:05<cmorton>looks like mesa dri intel haswell mobile
19:05<alex658>bash: modprobe: command not found
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19:07<alex658>the gpu I have is GC2000
19:07<alex658>maybe it has just low performance?
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19:08<joelkraehemann>alex658, useradd -G video YOURUSERNAME
19:08<joelkraehemann>cmorton, do the same
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19:09<alex658>sudo useradd -G video debian useradd: user 'debian' already exists
19:10<cmorton>done and done
19:10<alex658>or do you mean with a new username?
19:10<joelkraehemann>excuse me
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19:10<joelkraehemann> usermod -a -G video YOURUSERNAME
19:11<alex658>ah I replaced YOURUSERNME with my username
19:11<cmorton>k
19:11<joelkraehemann> usermod -a -G video $(whoami)
19:11<alex658>now done
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19:12<joelkraehemann>usermod -a -G video $(whoami) won't work since you must be root
19:12<alex658>I am
19:12<joelkraehemann>did you replace USERNAME
19:13<joelkraehemann>good
19:13<joelkraehemann>driconf
19:13<alex658>debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$ sudo usermod -a -G video $(whoami) debian@debian-imx6:~/Desktop$ whoami debian
19:13<alex658>I mean if it didn't throw any error it worked or not?
19:14<joelkraehemann>it worked
19:14<alex658>but driconf still the same
19:14<joelkraehemann>driconf
19:14<alex658>Screen "0" is not direct rendering capable.
19:14<joelkraehemann>logout you have old privileges
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19:15<cmorton>driconf loads fine
19:15<joelkraehemann>cmorton, you're done
19:16<alex131>still the same
19:16<cmorton>cmorton@debian:~/Desktop$ cinnamon -reset
19:16<cmorton>cinnamon: symbol lookup error: cinnamon: undefined symbol: meta_plugin_type_register
19:17<cmorton> gsettings reset-recursively org.cinnamon
19:17<cmorton>i tried this as well
19:18<joelkraehemann>cmorton, I don't have cinnamon
19:18<cmorton>You know it was working fine before i added the nonfree sources and upgraded
19:18<joelkraehemann>alex658, show me lsmod
19:18<cmorton>lxde works fine
19:19<alex131>Module Size Used by
19:19<alex131>nothing basically
19:19<joelkraehemann>cmorton, what about upgrading again
19:20<joelkraehemann>undefined symbol looks like broken library
19:21<alex131>I have problems to run synaptic as well and already read that people solve it by deleting brokey libraries
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19:21<alex131>broken*
19:22<cmorton>upgrading now
19:22<joelkraehemann>alex131, did you modprobe drm
19:22<alex131>command not found
19:23<cmorton>brb
19:23<joelkraehemann>as root
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19:23<joelkraehemann>modprobe -v drm
19:24<alex131>no output
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19:25<joelkraehemann>lsmod
19:25<joelkraehemann>I need the output of lsmod
19:26<alex131>Module Size Used by
19:26<alex131>no data
19:26<joelkraehemann>not more
19:27<alex131>yes that's all just the headlines
19:27<joelkraehemann>I'm not experienced with embedded hardware
19:28<joelkraehemann>try modprobe -rv drm
19:28<alex131>modprobe: FATAL: Module drm is builtin.
19:29<joelkraehemann>can you open a TTY
19:29<alex131>how
19:29<joelkraehemann>can you chat with your second computer and follow the instructions
19:29<alex131>yes
19:30<joelkraehemann>PRESS: CTRL-ALT-F2
19:30<alex301>next
19:30<joelkraehemann>login
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19:31<alex301>done
19:31<joelkraehemann>now as root
19:31-!-Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> liquid.oftc.net quits: mattcen, Kaimei
19:31<alex301>su - ?
19:31<joelkraehemann>yes
19:31<alex301>done
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19:31<joelkraehemann>now we shutdown Xorg
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19:32<alex301>just "shutdown Xorg"
19:32<joelkraehemann>service stop lxdm
19:33<alex301>sorry I am really new to this :P I know nothing about linux
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19:33<joelkraehemann>note do you have something to save?
19:33<alex301>unrecognized service
19:33<alex301>no nothing
19:33<joelkraehemann>service lxdm stop
19:34<alex301>lxdm: unrec. servuce
19:34<alex301>lxde: unrec. service
19:34<joelkraehemann>what's your display manager
19:34<alex301>I think that guy mentioned something light lxdm or so?
19:35<alex301>is that possible?
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19:36<alex301>I installed that yesterday from scratch.. a guy here told me what to do and I think he said something like light lxdm
19:37<joelkraehemann>systemctl restart lxdm
19:37<joelkraehemann>systemctl stop lxdm
19:37<joelkraehemann>sorry just the last
19:38<joelkraehemann>killall -9 lxdm
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19:38<alex301>ctL or ct1
19:38<alex301>number 1
19:39<joelkraehemann>try: killall -9 lxdm
19:39<alex301>no he doesn't find both
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19:39<alex301>lxdm: no process found
19:39<alex301>can Ireturn to the normal login where I can choose the gui?
19:40<alex301>then I can tell you which one I have
19:40<joelkraehemann>try: killall -9 gdm
19:40<joelkraehemann>CTRL-ALT-F7
19:40<joelkraehemann>but logout
19:41<joelkraehemann>Good idea
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19:42<alex301>lxde
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19:45<joelkraehemann>modprobe etna_viv
19:46<alex301>normally logged in with gui
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19:47<alex576>modprobe: FATAL: Module etna_viv not found.
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19:49<joelkraehemann>install firmware
19:50<alex301>sure.. how
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19:50<joelkraehemann>apt-get install firmware-linux-free
19:51<joelkraehemann>apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree
19:52<alex576>the last line is:
19:52<alex576> /boot/initrd.img-3.12.0-armv7-x8 does not exist. Cannot update.
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19:53<joelkraehemann>reboot
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19:57<alex322>done
19:57<joelkraehemann>what says driconf
19:57<alex322>still the same
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19:58<alex322>what does that mean?
19:58<alex322>Screen "0" is not direct rendering capable.
19:58<joelkraehemann>no 3d acceleration
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19:59<alex322>so this is 100% the reason why the jar won't start right?
19:59<joelkraehemann>not sure but would be nice if 3d acceleration works :)
20:00<alex322>that is so true :P
20:00<joelkraehemann>alex322, I'm tired
20:00<alex322>so am I
20:00<alex322>let's stop for now and rest
20:00<joelkraehemann>I have 2:00 AM
20:00<alex322>thanks so much.. I think I learned a lot
20:01<alex322>and I'm sure the solution is close
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20:03<alex322>in which country do you live?
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20:05<joelkraehemann>switzerland
20:05<joelkraehemann>and you?
20:05<alex322>a bit north, germany
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20:09<alex322>well I'm off now, thanks again and hopefully I see you tomorrow
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20:29<xy>indentd
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20:36<martin__>hola a todos
20:37<JackOff>hola
20:37<JackOff>martin
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20:39<martin__>hola jackoff
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20:40<martin__>como estas?
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20:40<JackOff>bnbn y tu
20:41<martin__>bien, recordando viejos tiempos con IRC
20:41<martin__>de que parte eres?
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20:49<JackOff>de chile, asi que recordando viejos tiempos
20:49<JackOff>que tan viejos >:D
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21:14<Avenged3>HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED jelly
21:14<Avenged3>ban me jelly
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21:19<Avenged3>does debian spy on what you do on your computer?
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21:21<themill>Avenged3: is there any chance we can not go through this nonsense again?
21:21<Avenged3>themill, you know me from freenode?
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21:23<Avenged3>does debian spy on what you do on your computer?
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21:25<themill>Avenged3: that question has already been answered several times for you
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