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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-06-19

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00:05<Supplied>!ops + SSL + skule jprvita jticket aliasd leif__ reallydarkcloud muep spion _1amzave fugit superusr iron Cpuroast mtearle mattcen Marillion dcraig debhelper testian SynrGy tomaw bilbo tombee arlen zz_hitsumabushi KOJIbKA Kaimei adhawkins fchmmr skee FlowRiser jhutchins fchmmr ritek ugly_cat_ Thorgrin XaF andreschneider nyov Texou namix Argure devil jhr tdi mirsal powersj anyk cybersphinx kalamaja
00:05<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: supplied complains about: + SSL + skule jprvita jticket aliasd leif__ reallydarkcloud muep spion _1amzave fugit superusr iron Cpuroast mtearle mattcen Marillion dcraig debhelper testian SynrGy tomaw bilbo tombee arlen zz_hitsumabushi KOJIbKA Kaimei adhawkins fchmmr skee FlowRiser jhutchins fchmmr ...
00:05<Supplied>!ops + SSL + sulky_ exoplanet dcosnet aliasd glebihan Laogeodritt UltimediaOS stevenm_ zumbi anglisc svetlana nickrw TobiX tajnyman Y_Ichiro bluesceada sudnam anorak xayto lessyv hellschreiber CoreDuo Phylos sander jprvita aef jhutchins Alam_Squeeze leif__ rev rootbeer urzo cnote Eryn_1983_FL neersighted zerick paypal_ darkbasic stemid_ cmn Myon Jasopia_ jcarlos noahfx_ adema powersj s00ner
00:05<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: supplied complains about: + SSL + sulky_ exoplanet dcosnet aliasd glebihan Laogeodritt UltimediaOS stevenm_ zumbi anglisc svetlana nickrw TobiX tajnyman Y_Ichiro bluesceada sudnam anorak xayto lessyv hellschreiber CoreDuo Phylos sander jprvita aef jhutchins Alam_Squeeze leif__ rev rootbeer urzo ...
00:05<Supplied>peter1138 dpkg Marillion
00:05<Supplied>!ops + SSL + diroots mwalling rauppe31 mattcen mentor Se-bash Maulkin SpaceKookie Somasis toxboi nyuszika7h olsren magnusj Celelibi_ ScottE Jikan appas paxmark9 jprvita xcolour yrjan friese Texou Andocromn phorce1_home yuhl_ Wegge Guest6803 bjb xsdg wallzero bolt Otter Fenhl virtualsid Arrowmaster guto Stummi MJD nyuszika7h wkf awaxa Overspark roxer w1ck3dg01h3r Kaimei dualbus agaida niko_20010
00:05<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: supplied complains about: + SSL + diroots mwalling rauppe31 mattcen mentor Se-bash Maulkin SpaceKookie Somasis toxboi nyuszika7h olsren magnusj Celelibi_ ScottE Jikan appas paxmark9 jprvita xcolour yrjan friese Texou Andocromn phorce1_home yuhl_ Wegge Guest6803 bjb xsdg wallzero bolt Otter Fenhl ...
00:05<Supplied>burnersk
00:05<Supplied>!ops + SSL + ItSANgo sander Top-top-top s00ner at0m d-fence Freejack barbanegra michel urzo fabian awaxa B_Smith Dr-Shadow Xires aliasd Laogeodritt Ganneff iron Decantur Stummi devsterknight debhelper InvadeD Chocobozzz sgrc_ jstewart neiljp llimeht_ Defaultti ki_2 mattcen akuma rev twem2 nightsh bastiandg jrtc27 gl pi_ Seb rueh daedalux guardian aboudreault thalos kmm fred`` rmdashrf Jb_boin
00:05<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: supplied complains about: + SSL + ItSANgo sander Top-top-top s00ner at0m d-fence Freejack barbanegra michel urzo fabian awaxa B_Smith Dr-Shadow Xires aliasd Laogeodritt Ganneff iron Decantur Stummi devsterknight debhelper InvadeD Chocobozzz sgrc_ jstewart neiljp llimeht_ Defaultti ki_2 mattcen akuma ...
00:05<Supplied>!ops + SSL + ml| tajnyman Caesar quentusrex CompWizrd swizgard dpkg Overspark TonyL rmdashrf bjb PeterReid daemonkeeper ItSANgo PEB nkukard Tubbles Akronym Auroch tjbp ghavil gryps KOJIbKA xeb ninkotech_ rtype tethra Pixelz funkyHat Alam_Squeeze retrospectacus fiasko__ PaulePanter YamashitaRen phorce1_home wallzero seebyr omnidan dselect pedeb Kitt3n_ jprvita jprvita PEB _1amzave jimpop Myon
00:05<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: supplied complains about: + SSL + ml| tajnyman Caesar quentusrex CompWizrd swizgard dpkg Overspark TonyL rmdashrf bjb PeterReid daemonkeeper ItSANgo PEB nkukard Tubbles Akronym Auroch tjbp ghavil gryps KOJIbKA xeb ninkotech_ rtype tethra Pixelz funkyHat Alam_Squeeze retrospectacus fiasko__ ...
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00:06<dcosnet>if i had ops id have him banned atm.
00:06<Supplied>mwalling tgies Brando753
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00:21<SuppliedRelic_>!ops + SSL + Cyis|afk ansgar babilen babilen Argure blue anyk MissionCritical cthuluh_ nkuttler realitygaps dlitz kalamaja finetundra clowninasack VeltasV mattcen gsimmons Kitt3n_ rfreeman-w krofek_ gbyers Overspark ShinigamiMachine devil Pixelz JasonO Jahkeup Anthrax Chocobozzz ryanc` Andocromn [UP]Crystal lostson jrtc27 cjac sjefen6_ Freejack S_WO JanC sgrc_ ugly_cat_ Sebastinas anarcat Xires
00:21<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: suppliedrelic_ complains about: + SSL + Cyis|afk ansgar babilen babilen Argure blue anyk MissionCritical cthuluh_ nkuttler realitygaps dlitz kalamaja finetundra clowninasack VeltasV mattcen gsimmons Kitt3n_ rfreeman-w krofek_ gbyers Overspark ShinigamiMachine devil Pixelz JasonO Jahkeup Anthrax ...
00:24<svetlana>pwd
00:25<svetlana>SuppliedRelic_: do it in cyrillic next time, i find that faster to read
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00:38<svetlana>what is the default behaviour of gnunet on debian? i had installed it and found out that it does a lot of activity over the network, so i had to stop it before doing anything else
00:39<Bob_Hartge>AZ33333544444444444444444444444L;;.....................................................................................'/////3
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01:41<nezZario>Can someone do a sanity check for me.. http://paste.debian.net/240542/ .. I have access to /dev/loop0 right? (vmware says I doesn't)
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01:44<somiaj>nezZario: type groups
01:44<somiaj>nezZario: i.e. did you recentlly add yourself to this group or not?
01:45<nezZario>yes I did
01:45<nezZario>eh, well..
01:45<nezZario>what makes it update?
01:45<somiaj>type groups, see if you are currently in the group, if not you'll have to logout/back in for it to take effect
01:46<nezZario>ohh, duh. i bet vmware needs to be restarted. yeah i've opened new terminals since then but I bet vmware is still using the old copy..
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02:13<nezZario>somiaj, thanks for earlier btw
02:14<nezZario>one last dumb question.. how does mdadm surmise which device is newer for syncing ?
02:15<nezZario>so say I have 2x drives as a RAID1 mirror, I unplug one. i copy new data onto the remaining drive. boot back up -- what determines if the new data gets copied or if it gets overwritten ?
02:15<nezZario>i'm not booting from either in this situation
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03:03<stevenm_>Lo, just installed debian on this box - installing (text mode) was fine - but booting it for the first time... just after it says 'Loading initial ramdisk...' i.e. when grub runs initrd - it just reboots for no obvious reason
03:03<stevenm_>where might be a good place to debug?
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03:31<Laibsch>I upgraded my server recently and switched the syslog daemon to rsyslog. I am now getting two lines in syslog for every event. How can I find out what is causing this?
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05:56<Guest2150>Hello I can install stretch only throught debian installer or is there also full iso?
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06:09<nullx002>hi
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06:09<nullx002>www.google.com
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07:22<vysh>Hi, while installing Debian 8.1.0 on Adaptec RAID 2405 the installer keeps asking me for missing firmware aic94xx-seq.fw and can't proceed. Adaptec does not have a driver for Jessie for the 2405 board (the last one was Debian 6), is there anything that can be done here?
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07:50<blast007>vysh: you don't need the driver, you need the firmware file
07:51<vysh>blast007: I can't find it anywhere in the internet, I've been googling since morning, is it available somewhere?
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07:53<vysh>blast007: I unpacked this: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/jessie/current/firmware.tar.gz to the firmware directory on the cdrom, but nothing changed, I was still asked for the firmware file
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07:53<blast007>yeah, I don't think debian has it packaged
07:54<blast007>maybe the firmware has restrictive terms prohibiting third party distribution
07:54<vysh>Ubuntu installs fine btw
07:54<vysh>it's Debian I am having trouble with
07:56<vysh>well I found a file with the exact name I need here: https://github.com/jolicloud/linux-firmware/blob/master/aic94xx-seq.fw, will it run on Debian or are they distribution specific and I'll have all sorts of bugs and glitches if accidentally installing the wrong file
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07:57<blast007>I don't think they should be distro specific since it's just a binary blob provided by the manufacturer
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07:58<blast007>there's also this, but it mentions different products than what you have: http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/speed/scsi/linux/aic94xx-seq-30-1_tar_gz.php
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08:02<vysh>I'm going to try to install with that anyway
08:03<vysh>I don't have any other options
08:06<vysh>blast007: thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
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08:10<flip612>Hi. For Fedora 22 there are qemu-kvm packages for PPC64LE; for Debian I can't find any. Do I need to use some non-standard repository or so?
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08:47<francescop>Hi, can someone help me on this strange problem? https://paste.debian.net/241272/
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09:48<ra0>Traceback (most recent call last):
09:48<ra0> File "./wifiphisher.py", line 20, in <module>
09:48<ra0> from scapy.all import *
09:48<ra0>ImportError: No module named scapy.all
09:48-!-ra0 was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.]
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10:16<d0uglas>hi #debian.. I want to nohup tail -f an nginx log while grepping stuff out of it to pipe into just a running log of sites hotlinking my images, but attempts to do that with > and 2> and >> result in a blank file. How can I capture this? hanks
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10:22<blast007>d0uglas: perhaps put the tail and grep in a script and then nohup the script? or run the tail/grep inside a screen or tmux session.
10:22<Maulkin>d0uglas: What's your command line?
10:24<d0uglas>something along the lines of this: nohup tail -f /var/log/nginx/ng-access.log|grep uploads|grep http|grep -v -e mydomain -e myIP -e oogle > ng-hot.log
10:25<d0uglas>and with the /dev/null bit after it (I combed stackoverflow and googled, found a bunch of answers, no luck)
10:25<d0uglas>so a script, like a container of the | stuff
10:25<d0uglas>I'll try that
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10:27<d0uglas>and nohup the script > output.log, not nohup within the actual script?
10:27<Maulkin>d0uglas: yeah, try that.
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10:27<Maulkin>d0uglas: Does it work when you run it manually?
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10:28<d0uglas>maulkin: yes, it outputs what I want (unless I end with a /dev/ull)
10:28<d0uglas>(on the screen, not the file)... trying the script now
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10:31<d0uglas>not collecting output: nohup ./nghot > /var/log/nginx/ng-hot.log ... responds with this: nohup ./nghot > /var/log/nginx/ng-hot.log
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10:32<d0uglas>created the file at least
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10:32<d0uglas>err responds with nohup: ignoring input and redirecting stderr to stdout
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10:32<d0uglas>need some other > thing?
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10:36<d0uglas>I guess I could maybe achieve this with some funky nginx logging configuration but this seemed like the easier approach
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10:38<d0uglas>gonna google a little more (self-reliance!)
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10:50<d0uglas>Nice, I think I got it with the tee command instead of >
10:50<d0uglas>just need to mute the output from the console and get nohup to work with it
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10:52<stdhell>d0uglas: ">logfile 2>&1" should do the trick, if you want to catch both stdout and stderr.
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10:53<d0uglas>ok, though trying and seeing this: nohup nghot| tee -a /var/log/nginx/ng-hot.log >/dev/null 2>&1
10:53<stdhell>Order is important. "2>&1 >logfile" will send stderr to the console/terminal/whatever and stdout to the logfile.
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10:54<stdhell>Ah... nohup nghot >>/var/log/nginx/ng-hot.log 2>&1
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10:55<stdhell>d0uglas: The 2>&1 in your example will send stderr of the tee command to /dev/null, not the stderr of nohup or nghot.
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10:59<d0uglas>stdhell: hooray, yours works! though only with one > not two, .. nohup nghot >/var/log/nginx/ng-hot.log 2>&1
11:00<d0uglas>Thank you everybody.
11:00<hplc>in an article the author points out that if one wants to see a list of packages most likely broken, one can do debsums -s -a 2> /tmp/broken.log
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11:00<d0uglas>now I can more easily see how much bandwidth not blocking google images hotlinking is costing me
11:00<hplc>but what if i want to see the packages added postinstall?, not the broken ones
11:01<d0uglas>and other grepping delights
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11:02<hplc>the original packages with their respective md5, what to compare to?, an ftp server of debian?
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11:03<stdhell>d0uglas: Ok, but then it won't append to the logfile. It'll just overwrite it. You used tee -a, so I assumed you wanted to append.
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11:04<d0uglas>yes I do, I'll add that
11:04<d0uglas>wait, I didn't use tee
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11:04<d0uglas>just nohup nghot >/var/log/nginx/ng-hot.log 2>&1
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11:05<stdhell><d0uglas> ok, though trying and seeing this: nohup nghot| tee -a /var/log/nginx/ng-hot.log >/dev/null 2>&1
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11:05<d0uglas>I had better double check my attempts
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11:12<d0uglas>this works: root@302:~# detach ngoog >/var/log/nginx/ng-goog.log 2>&1 &
11:12<d0uglas>what I said I was trying did not, or I didn't let it run long enough
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11:15<d0uglas>now that I have this grepped log file running, what's a simple way to keep track of the bandwidth drain it reveals, webalizer?
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11:16<d0uglas>would prefer something command line
11:16<d0uglas>ahh apachetop
11:16<jakllsch>is there a shortcut to installing what was in ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk on jessie?
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11:22<jakllsch>... or is there a list of the replacement packages?
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11:32<peter1138>Well, just install the required :i386 packages
11:33<jakllsch>but i don't know which ones were/are required
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11:35<peter1138>Whatever you're trying to run should be able to tell you. Or run ldd on it.
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12:09<debijit>when package,, maintainers mail id :root@localhost and maintainers name is :my username... how i change that,,,,
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12:26<orsxx>how do I know iptables is launched at Debian startup?
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12:42<lostatwork>orsxx: as root in a terminal issue the iptables -L command to see what your current iptables are
12:44<b0tias>any one to help me with some Lxmusic audio bug ? some extra speed reading happen when i choose another track somtimes
12:44<orsxx>lostatwork: yes, I know that, but does it mean that it's currently working?
12:44<lostatwork>orsxx: if it shows the iptables then yes
12:45<orsxx>thanks
12:46<lostatwork>orsxx: for instance mine shows up like this http://paste.debian.net/241527/
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12:47<orsxx>thats a lot of rules, but I don't use ufw ;)
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12:48<lostatwork>i like ufe easy to install and easy to turn on and use
12:48<lostatwork>ufw*
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12:55<b0tias>any one to help me with some Lxmusic audio bug ?
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13:29<Guest2180>Hi, i installed ekiga on Jessie. The phone rings but i dont get the poopup to answer. Anyone know how to fix this?
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14:05<jegc>Hi, i have already looked at "https://www.debian.org/mirror/size", but i see "all" architecture, Do I to add the size of "all" architecture to the size of other architecture?, and What is the size of main component?
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14:14<Brigo>jegc, yes, it is the size of package that is the same for all architectures, like documentation packages.
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14:21<jegc>Brigo: Thanks :), know You the size only of the main component?
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14:40<ceibal>hola
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14:41<ml|>Find it weird, when moving to jessie get 10 bug warnings. Should these not be resolved by now?
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14:43<ml|>If anyone is interested: https://paste.debian.net/241858/
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14:46<Bear>is it possible to upgrade debian 6 directly to debian 8? Or do I need to upgrade 6->7->8?
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14:47<ml|>Bear: 6->7->8
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14:48<Bear>thank you
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14:49<ml|>Bear: Make sure you read the release notes for each release. For jessie https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes
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14:53<allen>Is there any webpage or info on when KDE5 will become the default KDE in Stretch? Even a rough timeline or guess?
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15:05<lostatwork>allen: you may want to try #debian-kde or the debian-kde mailing list
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15:09<allen>Thanks. I guess I'll try the mailing list. I asked in the IRC room and no one answered
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15:09<allen>It's very hard to find any info or speculation on dates which seems a bit strange
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15:33<Crucerio>hi, I have an issue with usb drives in debian8 xfce, the drives get mounted automatically but I can only unmount them as root
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15:41<giacomo>ciao
15:41<giacomo>!lista
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16:04<rdav1d>Hey, so my server just had a random? reboot, is there a logfile where I can see what caused the reboot or what caused it?
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16:10<shome>rdav1d: Did you run dmesg at all, or possibly check last ?
16:10<shome>rdav1d: Try running a last | grep reboot | less and sort through those times first.
16:10<rdav1d>shome: I checked syslog and messages, nothing, a sudden cut from the last message to the reboot
16:11<rdav1d>shome: 1 entry: reboot system boot 3.14.32-xxxx-grs Fri Jun 19 21:41 - 22:11 (00:29)
16:11<rdav1d>which is today
16:11<rdav1d>(also that makes sense, the server actually only booted once before, when it was installed)
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16:12<rdav1d>shome: what does that mean? it was scheduled?
16:13<rdav1d>or does it mean, the system started (but could have been shut down because of a power outage)
16:13<shome>Does the time stamp that reboot listed match up with what had occurred ? or when, that is ?
16:14<rdav1d>yes
16:14<rdav1d>that's the exact time when it went down
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16:14<rdav1d>actually, maybe half a minute late
16:14<shome>Do an ls -l /proc/mdstat. What are the file permissions ?
16:14<shome>Sounds like a hard reboot
16:14<rdav1d>-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 19 22:14 /proc/mdstat
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16:14<shome>Ok, that's off the list
16:14<rdav1d>what does that mean?
16:15<shome>The proc directory manages system processes and running programs.
16:16<shome>If you or someone did an 'echo "1" >> /proc/mdstat it could cause the system to hard reboot, and it would essentially think the power switch had been pressed.
16:16<rdav1d>ahh
16:16<rdav1d>shome: so it looks like a hardreset (power button) or power outage?
16:16<shome>Sounds like it to me.
16:17<rdav1d>thanks for helping me out :)
16:17<shome>I actually never checked logs when I had a power outage, or a hard reboot so not sure if it would register the same.
16:17<shome>First time this happened ?
16:17<shome>No prob !
16:17<rdav1d>shome: I would expect some messages of the system shutting down on a scheduled reboot
16:18<shome>Any scheduled reboots you know of ?
16:18<shome>sudo crontab -l
16:18<rdav1d>shome: the thing is, I was running a long running task of filling a database, I basically lost 3 days of progress (luckily it's not that bad, I can recover to ~10 hours lost)
16:18<rdav1d>no crontab for root
16:18<shome>Is the server running zfs at all ?
16:18<rdav1d>it's ext4
16:18<shome>ah ok
16:19<shome>If you're running a server, look into zfs. Even during power outages, it will rollback to the last state.
16:19<shome>Especially with a database !
16:19<rdav1d>shome: ah na, it's a different issue, the database is fine, but my insert script cant continue from the last inserted key, because it doesn't know what it is
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16:19<rdav1d>the last save state I have is about from 10 hours ago
16:20<shome>Oh ok, so your backups will go back to the progress state it left off at ?
16:20<rdav1d>checking if the key already exists is actually slower then simply overwriting
16:20<rdav1d>yeah
16:20<shome>Ok, good.
16:20<shome>Yeah, just keep an eye on it.
16:20<rdav1d>jsut wanted to makre sure it isnt going to happen again
16:20<shome>Maybe install another power supply in the server if you can .
16:20<rdav1d>I can't, I have no phyiscal power over it (then again, it's annoying but not a big deal, just a hobby project)
16:20<shome>But if it was an os issue, or the reboot got called from a certain process that would be a different troubleshooting step
16:21<shome>ah, ok
16:21<rdav1d>yeah, I was hoping no process initiated the reboot, because I could not think of a process who would even remotly need to do that
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16:23<shome>Nope, me either.
16:23<shome>Especially for a server of that magnitude with a database
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16:24<krabador>i need to enable lan interface from single mode
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16:28<krabador>i'm on single mode, and i need to enable eth0 to try recover system
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16:29<shome>ifconfig eth0 up
16:29<krabador>sudo ifup eth0 give me ignoring interface eth0=eth0
16:29<krabador>shome, i try
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16:38<dutchfish>hi, is it possible to detect an usb insert of a powerblock, using the usb port as a charger in the kernel or userland like lsusb?
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16:41<somiaj>dutchfish: I would think all usb devices give some sort of event when pluged in, but not positive.
16:42<somiaj>dutchfish: have you tried to look at dmesg or lsusb when you plug in the powerblock?
16:43<dutchfish>somiaj, i thought so as well, however i have a block here, (forgotten by a user in the office), getting awfully hot, so i worried about catching fire, early detection could solve that. Nothing in lsusb nor dmesg.
16:44<somiaj>krabador: ifup eth0 only works if you have the corresponding entry in /etc/network/interfaces
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16:46<ary>hi, how do i change the owner of a directory? I am trying chown user /dir, but it doesnt work. With nautilus same thing..
16:46<somiaj>dutchfish: well if you are seeing no output then maybe it doesn't regeter itself to the kernel
16:47<dutchfish>somiaj, i am afraid so, yes
16:47<somiaj>ary: you need to do chown user.group /path/to/dir, but this only works on *nix filesystems, what file system is this dir on.
16:47<somiaj>dutchfish: the only other thing I can suggest is looking at udev events, but I think the kernel would hit first and dmesg should have some record of the devive being plugged in
16:48<ary>NTFS
16:48<dutchfish>somiaj, correct
16:48<ary>somiaj, NTFS
16:48<dutchfish>somiaj, i was hoping to read powerconsumption, but dont know how
16:48<somiaj>ary: the unix drivers for ntfs cannot set username ownership of indivduail files
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16:49<dutchfish>somiaj, (usb bus)
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16:49<ary>somiaj, there is another solution?????????
16:49<somiaj>ary: when you mount the ntfs filesystem you can pass it options like uid= and gid= to set the dfeault user and group the files are owned by
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16:51<somiaj>ary: also by default ntfs I thought used 777 permissions so ownwership wasn't an issue, but overall you can set this with umask, dmas and umask settings when you mount the filesystem
16:51<somiaj>dutchfish: I wouldn't know either.
16:52<dutchfish>somiaj, ok, thanks. The only viable solution is then to disable or disconnect unused usb busses, but it dont like that ....
16:52<ary>somiaj, Like this? /dev/disk/by-uuid/50345B12345AFA84 /media/ary/Dados auto ary,nodev,nofail,x-gvf$how
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16:53<somiaj>ary: is that in your /etc/fstab line, in that list of options you have at the end, type uid=<name or number of user>,gid=<name or number of group> you want all of the files to be controled by
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16:53<ary>done
16:54<ary>will reboot now
16:54<ary>thanks
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16:54<somiaj>ary: just umount /media/..., and mount it
16:54<somiaj>no need to reboot
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21:16<hu>hi guys
21:16<hu>how can i configure the touchpad in jessie?
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21:17<hu>i don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d folder. do i need to mkdir myself?
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21:20<hu>anybody around?
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21:49<canaima>hola
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21:50<somiaj>!es
21:50<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
21:51<somiaj>canaima: you are welcome to ask questions in english here too. (:
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21:53<hu>could anybody teach me how to config touch pad in jessie?
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21:56<somiaj>hu: what isn't working? Do you hae a custom xorg.conf file, because usually this should be detected automatically. The driver should be in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package
21:56<hu>everything works
21:57<hu>but not in the way i prefer
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21:57<hu>for example
21:57<somiaj>what sort of things do you want to change?
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21:58<hu>for example i want bottom left right corner to be left and right click respectively
21:58<hu>and there is another issue, which i think it's a bug
21:59<hu>after i use it for a while, about 1 hour or so, it seems gnome controls will react in the way as if i am holding the touchpad while that's not true.
22:00<somiaj>hu: https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad
22:00<somiaj>hu: I'd start there. I personally disable mine and just use a usbmouse so can't tell you more than that link
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22:01<canaima>hello
22:01<maazu>hi
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22:02<hu>that doesn't seem to work
22:02<hu>i don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d folder
22:02-!-canaima [~canaima@186-90-84-53.genericrev.cantv.net] has quit []
22:02<hu>i mkdir it, and i copy over a template one and restart.
22:02<maazu>hu: how about trying out wayland, the successor to X11
22:02<hu>but i can't see any effect.
22:03<canaima_>hello
22:03<maazu>canaima_: hi
22:03<hu>that means i need to replace the x server?
22:04<maazu>hu: can you message dpkg?
22:04<hu>how? i am new to irc
22:04<maazu>hu: "/m dpkg wayland"
22:04<somiaj>hu: just make one
22:04<somiaj>hu: by default you don't need a config file, but you can make one and just put stuff there
22:05<hu>ok. i copied over a template file. but what should i put to make, say, the left right corner thing working?
22:06<somiaj>hu: I don't know, i'm just poting you to a place you can start playing with things and figure out what options you have.
22:06<maazu>hu: ah, I remember this XF86Config, a GUI that will setup conf
22:06<hu>how to?
22:06<maazu>hu: i still think you should try wayland
22:07<canaima_> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND
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22:07<hu>em...
22:07<maazu>canaima_: just ask, people here will explain
22:08<hu>i think this is a setting issue. not necessarily can be dealt with by changing x server
22:08<hu>if the settings keep the way they are, it wouldn't help.
22:08<maazu>hu: x server is very old now
22:08<maazu>hu: newer graphics cards have features that are not used by X11
22:09<hu>that's fine. mine is intel integrated.
22:09<hu>oh this reminds me something.
22:09<hu>what about steam os? what do they use?
22:09<maazu>steam os is 32-bit app
22:10<canaima_>NO
22:10<maazu>hu: don't bother if your arch is 64-bit, mixing 32-bit with 64-bit platform is bad
22:10<somiaj>steamos isn't an app, it is an os. You can install steam in jessie from just fine.
22:10<somiaj>maazu: do you have anything useful to say, so far your help has been only a distraction.
22:11<maazu>somiaj: sorry
22:11<somiaj>hu: I'm unsure what options you have to configure your touchpad in xorg, you have read though that page and tried a config file, have you tried to mess with some settings in such a way you notice a difference
22:11<hu>ok
22:12<somiaj>maazu: also multiarch on debian works faily well, I mix 64bit and 32bit apps with no issues
22:12<hu>do you have idea how can i reload the settings on the go?
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22:12<hu>or i need to reboot everytime
22:12<somiaj>hu: you can't. But some settings can be configured with tools like xset and xinput on the fly. I have to look them up each time I use them.
22:12<canaima>NAGUARA VALE
22:12<somiaj>hu: you can just restart xorg (and not reboot your whole system)
22:12<hu>log out and log in?
22:13<somiaj>canaima: this is an english channel. I pointed you to a spanish channel if you prefer.
22:13<maazu>somiaj: only 1 way 32bit apps on 64 bit plat ok, dare you try the opposite direction
22:13<somiaj>hu: I belive that works, I think when you logout the display manager restarts xorg.
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22:13<somiaj>maazu: other direction works if you are running a 64bit kernel in a 32bit userland.
22:14<somiaj>maazu: but yes most of the initial design was for 32bit apps in a 64bit userland.
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22:15<maazu>somiaj: but the application binary interface (ABI) changes often there will be one change when you upgrade from gcc-4.9.x to 5.11
22:16<maazu>ok, forget about ABI for now, can you read this simple code:
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22:16<somiaj>maazu: on debian stable you shouldn't be changing abi. And that is a seperate issue from multiarch
22:16<maazu>dooh, my pastebin!
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22:17<hu>hi
22:17<hu>i just rebooted
22:17<maazu>somiaj: do you cross compile tools like MinGW64?
22:17<hu>seems to have some effect
22:18<hu>i will try to read the man
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22:19<maazu>anyway, MinGW64 project is a mess
22:20<maazu>can you believe MS is still using 32bit_time_t for Windows8?
22:20<maazu>there is a reason why one should separate 64bit from 32 bit
22:21<somiaj>maazu: so far very little of what you are saying is for debian support. You should take this discussion elsewhere.
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22:44<pudor>hi all! i want to download from debian software for my mobile where i get help about this topic?
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22:53<pudor>and why in xchat does not work button "Open Data Folder"?
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