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---Logopened Tue Jul 07 00:00:59 2015
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00:07<ryouma>is it an issue that apt-get upgrade was killed by the oom killer? removing contrib and doing it again was immediate.
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00:26<AwaaX>I have a problem with my postfix and dovecot ! I can send mail; but can't recieve ! Please help :)
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01:29<hdb2>I'm trying to write a sed command that will remove the comment from 20-ufw.conf. I'm removing the comment from the last line = #$ ~ but I can't figure out how to get there. I've trying googling and writing a bunch of sed lines, but nothing works. can anyone give any pointers?
01:30<hdb2>*remove a comment
01:31<jm_>what does the last line look like exactly?
01:31<hdb2>I've trying a bunch of variations of this: sed -i 's/#\$ ~/\$ ~/g'
01:31<hdb2>jm_: it literally looks like this: #$ ~
01:32<somiaj>hdb2: Do you want to remove all comments or a very paticular comment.
01:32<hdb2>jm_: correction, it looks like this: #& ~
01:32<jm_>hdb2: sed -e '$s/^#//'
01:32<hdb2>somiaj: just the comment on that one particular line
01:33<hdb2>I'm assuming (yes, I know) that I would need to escape the & sign and ~ somehow, but I cant get there
01:34<hdb2>jm_: so sed -e '$s/^#& ~//' ?
01:34<somiaj>yea I would have to play with some trial and error, grep could work. grep '^#\& ~' work, maybe escape the ~ too.
01:35<hdb2>somiaj: I did not think of grep. without looking at the man page yet, can grep edit "inline" like sed -i does?
01:35<jm_>hdb2: no the command I gave you
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01:36<somiaj>hdb2: listen to jm_, grep only greps, but it will check if your regex match works.
01:36<somiaj>hdb2: you will need to use sed to actually do the edit.
01:36<hdb2>jm_: sed -i -e '$s/^#//' /etc/rsyslog.d/20-ufw.conf worked *perfectly*, I'll break it down to learn from it, but in the meantime thank you very much!!! :)
01:37<somiaj>hdb2: ^# just means any line that starts with a #, and it takes any line that starts with a numbersign and switches the number sign with nothing (//)
01:38<somiaj>Though I thought that would hit all commnets (not just the one you wanted), did you check it didn't get the other lines as well?
01:38<hdb2>somiaj: I thought the exact same thing...
01:38<jm_>not all comments, the trick is in the address ($)
01:38<hdb2>and yet, it worked
01:39<hdb2>jm_: why does that work? it doesn't specify the actual character = &
01:40<jm_>hdb2: do you know what s/// sed command does?
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01:44<hdb2>jm_: no, but I'll look it up
01:44<jm_>hdb2: it's search and replace
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01:45<jm_>if you want a really good reading it would be sed&awk book from o'reilly, but info sed is useful too and there are plenty of other resources on the net
01:45<suller>I got some problem when preparing tools to build mempo kernel (following https://wiki.debian.org/SameKernel), didnt found useful things in google, and cant get help in #mempo, so wondering if some1 here would help?
01:46<jm_>what is mempo?
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01:47<suller>https://wiki.debian.org/mempo
01:48<suller>https://wiki.debian.org/Mempo
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01:50<jm_>why not ask in #mempo then?
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01:55<suller>cause no one reply yet, I thought maybe here would help.
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02:00<hdb2>jm_: I'll pick up that book, and thanks again to both you and somiaj!
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02:01<jm_>no worries
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02:07<kuru>I am using cli and I cant find a way to connect to new wifi spots
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03:04<Cocodude>Hello. I just upgraded to Jessie and now my computer seems to die daily at around 6am (I/O errors on seeming random disks and network interface restarts). I'm usually good at diagnosing these things but I'm drawing a blank on this one. I can't see anything running around that time in cron. Any thoughts or changes in Jessie that may be causing this?
03:04<Cocodude>One interesting thing I am doing is using LVM caching, but I don't know why that would cause the system to get in a bad state at 6am consistently.
03:04<peter1138>6.25?
03:05<Cocodude>Today it was 6.10, yesterday 6.25
03:05<Cocodude>But it's been three days in a row a little after 6am
03:06<Cocodude>What happens at 6.25? I couldn't see anything in my crontab, but I probably changed the timings way back when the system was Squeeze
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03:06<peter1138>cron.daily
03:06<peter1138>look in /etc/crontab
03:07<Cocodude>Yeah, looked in the lot
03:07<Cocodude>My crons run a good hour before that, and the last is .monthly and there's nothing there
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03:08<StealthROOT>hey niggas
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03:27<suller>if I have some source code which works, how can I to reproduciblebuild it, make it a .deb file?
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04:18<ixi>hi; when renting a dedicated server, how would one normally install debian on it ? and by install I mean actually go through installer from iso downloaded from debian.org
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04:19<jm_>depends on infrastructure offered to you
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04:20<ixi>jm_ my question is rather
04:20<ixi>what infrastructure offer would be normally expected from a dedicated server offer
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04:22<ixi>would it be normally expected from a dedicated server provider to provide a way to use own iso (taken from debian.org) and use that for install?
04:22<duclicsic>ixi: typically you won't get to go through the installer yourself
04:22<ixi>or is it normally not done like this?
04:22<ixi>hmm
04:22<duclicsic>in my experience you just get a pre-installed base image
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04:22<duclicsic>there may be some where you can supply a custom one
04:22<duclicsic>but I've not come across one
04:23<ixi>okay but
04:23<ixi>then next question
04:23<ixi>what if I need a very specific partitioning scheme on the server (specific combination of partitions and LVM setup)
04:23<ixi>how would one normally achieve that without going through installer?...
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04:24<duclicsic>i guess you need to search about for somewhere that offers it. i don't remember if i had an option to set up my partitions on my dedi
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04:24<ixi>hmm I see
04:24<ixi>thank you for your input duclicsic
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04:28<TGFAjax>'ello...
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04:42<rfreeman-w>hi, anyone knows how lvm with raid works? the lvm+raid thing
04:42<rfreeman-w>how it differs to creating normal raid, and then creating lvm on top of /dev/md0
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04:50<petn-randall>rfreeman-w: It's not any different than creating a RAID, and then creating LVM on top of it.
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05:57<viccuad>Hi. Is Debian planning on doing a /usr merge? http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge/
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06:01<SynrGy>viccuad: it has been discussed. google: "usr merge" site:lists.debian.org
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06:02<SynrGy>About 14 results
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06:04<SynrGy>with this huge result (sarcasm) i would hazard a guess without reading the discussions yet, "no"
06:04<viccuad>SynrGy: thanks
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06:05<SynrGy>viccuad: but let me know what you find :) i hadn't heard about this idea before
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06:10<themill>There's also nothing testing that binaries in /bin aren't using things in /usr and no-one in those discussions could realyl articulate a reason to maintain the split so it's likely to just die over time
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06:12<SynrGy>ah
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06:13<themill>the "but what about /usr on nfs" argument comes up each time but noone actually admits to doing it or explaining how you do that with dpkg
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06:15<viccuad>themill: that's a very valid point, if /bin and the like rely on /usr, then it doesn't make any sense
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06:16<viccuad>also, snapshotting the OS etc with /usr could be desirable in the future, given that we seem to be moving to xdg-apps/Limba/Nix/Guix in the future
06:17<viccuad>Fedora, Arch (eww), Gentoo, OpenSuse have already done the /usr merge
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06:17<themill>If people find /bin-relies-on-/usr problems they may report them. The absence of systematic tests and the absence of bugs makes me suspect it's a largely historical and unneeded distinction these days
06:18<SynrGy>yes, but i don't find "other distributions have done this already" a compelling argument
06:18<viccuad>SynrGy: that's true
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06:18<viccuad>the only hiccup I don't like is that you lose the possibility to mount /bin etc separately for recovery, ala old times. But if /bin and /usr are mangled..
06:18<SynrGy>anyway, the whole thing (whether or not debian should do it, what technical barriers there are) looks rather OT for here
06:19<SynrGy>i.e. not really a support question
06:19<viccuad>is this channel only for support questions?
06:19<viccuad>is there a better channel for this kind of discussions?
06:19<SynrGy>we try our best to handle general inquiries, mostly by redirecting people elsewhere for the things that are outside of scope
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06:21<SynrGy>since it would require cooperation on a large scale to achieve, i think the only appropriate place for discussion is the debian-devel mailing list.
06:21<SynrGy>getting random samplings of opinions on irc is unlikely to yield useful results
06:22<SynrGy>if you re-raise the issue on the list, make sure you've thoroughly read prior discussion and have something novel to add to move it forward.
06:22<SynrGy>as rehashes of rejected ideas with nothing moving them forward are a waste of the project's energy
06:22<viccuad>SynrGy: thanks for the input
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06:23<themill>It'd probably good for someone other than the systemd maintainers to suggest it....
06:26<viccuad>may I ask what method do you use for reading past mailing lists? the webpage? mutt?
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06:28<SynrGy>viccuad: either debian's archive of the list on the web or else a mirror of it (some mirrors are more pleasant to read -- thread view is better)
06:29<viccuad>I guess reading mailing lists is an acquired taste :/
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06:31<Infiltrator>So... libapt-pkg.so.4.12 is causing aptitude and apt-get to crash. Is this something I managed to somehow do?
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06:31<Infiltrator>segfault, by the way.
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06:34<Infiltrator>dpkg -i /var/cache/....deb didn't help.
06:34<dpkg>package /var/cache/....deb didn't help. is already installed
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06:49<Infiltrator>apt-get update --fix-missing fixed it... but now I feel silly for not copying the backtrace before I closed the terminal. :\
06:50<at0m|c>Infiltrator: /var/log/apt and /dpkg
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07:21<i_like_my_nickname>dpkg:hola
07:21<dpkg>hello
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07:22<i_like_my_nickname>dpkg:casi moris
07:22<dpkg>i_like_my_nickname: no idea
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07:23<i_like_my_nickname>dpkg:Debian stretch
07:23<dpkg>i_like_my_nickname: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
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08:34<Bram>Hi, does some one knows when the next dot release 8.2? will be available for jessie
08:34<svetlana>installed gnunet-server. debian jessie. this error on gnunet-peerinfo: "Error in communication with PEERINFO service: Timeout transmitting iteration request to `PEERINFO' service.'
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08:39<petn-randall>Bram: When it's ready. Why do you ask?
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09:10<Bram><petn-randall> Bram: When it's ready. Why do you ask? Because my debian redmine enviorment is on wheezy due to a (for my company) blocking bug in the redmine package of jessie. Which is resolved using the maintainers repository. But i want a clean as possible upgrade. thus im waiting....
09:12<Bram>dont mind waiting. I just wonder.
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09:14<petn-randall>Bram: which bug is that? There's a good chance it's already fixed in jessie-updates.
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09:16<Bram>bug #787498 resolved by #784944
09:16<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/787498 in redmine (open): «redmine: Cant change project ID of an earlier created issue»; severity: important; opened: 2015-06-02; last modified: 2015-07-06.
09:18<petn-randall>,v redmine
09:18<judd>Package: redmine on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.0.1-2; squeeze: 1.0.1-2; squeeze-backports: 1.1.2-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.4.4+dfsg1-2+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 2.5.1-2~bpo70+6; jessie: 3.0~20140825-5; sid: 3.0~20140825-7; stretch: 3.0~20140825-7
09:20<petn-randall>Bram: Good question. You can always backport the testing version yourself, which seems to be identical to this packages that Antonio is waiting for to be uploaded.
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09:24<appas>where can i find definitions for hotkeys? i'm using openbox, and my rc.xml has a binding for the mute button, but not for shift+mute, which controls another sound card (which i like). where's this coming from?
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09:28<Bram>yea i know but i really want a from stable to stable dist-upgrade with out any fuzz or additional apt sources
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09:41<i_like_my_nickname>Bram:aha,I get this problem also,dude and now I run debian testing
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09:41<i_like_my_nickname>Bram:good also and no more dist-upgrade
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09:48<phillipsjk>I have a possible problem: apt-get appears to be running without prompting.
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09:51<phillipsjk>there is a file called /etc/cron.daily/apt
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10:00<Bram><i_like_my_nickname> Bram:aha,I get this problem also,dude and now I run debian testing. you mean #787498 ?
10:00<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/787498 in redmine (open): «redmine: Cant change project ID of an earlier created issue»; severity: important; opened: 2015-06-02; last modified: 2015-07-06.
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10:33<angor>Hello guys. I'm trying to install Debian Jessie (latest 8-1.0 release, using DVD1) on server with supermicro motherboard (Dual Xeon) via IPMI (with virtual media), but installation hangs after selecting "expert install"... Does anobody know possible reasons? Thanks. p.s. RAID disabled.
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10:36<madmac2501>hi, I am trying to auto answer a debconf question, but I don't know why the question still appears
10:36<madmac2501>is there any doc that can help me on this?
10:36<abrotman>which question
10:37<madmac2501>linux-base/disk-id-convert-auto
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10:43<madmac2501>what criteria uses debconf to display or not a question?
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10:46<at0m|c>madmac2501: from dpkg-reconfigure debconf, 2nd page: "low medium high critical" priority level of options
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10:47<at0m|c>not sure where that is defined in the packages
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11:11<madmac2501>at0m|c, thank you! I'll take a look at it
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11:18<dworkz>Hi, Via terminal, how do i create a shortcut for opening the terminal, lets say i want to use <ALT>T
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11:20<SynrGy>dworkz: it depends
11:21<SynrGy>do you mean by "via terminal", what command do you type to make the shortcut?
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11:21<SynrGy>if it's gnome, probably some dconf command
11:21<SynrGy>see the dconf man page.
11:22<SynrGy>also see the dconf-editor tool for browsing the dconf config hierarchy
11:22<SynrGy>dworkz: if i've misunderstood, please elaborate.
11:23<dworkz>I ment exactly that
11:23<dworkz>:)
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11:24<dworkz>But I am using xfce....
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11:25<SynrGy>then whatever cmdline tool xfce provides for that. i'm unsure
11:25<SynrGy>scripting the setup of the desktop, are we?
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11:27<dworkz>Hehe, thank you i got it to work!
11:28<SynrGy>dworkz: really? good.
11:28<SynrGy>dworkz: i had just gotten about to looking at xfconf-query ...
11:29<SynrGy>was i even close?
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11:32<SynrGy>dworkz: i mean this seemed relevant: http://askubuntu.com/a/375743
11:32<debijit>Whats this supposed to mean ------> can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../cortina_1.1.1.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz} :(
11:32<mohammad-ghasemi>I have a root partition at the beginning of the disk then a swap and then /home. Can I safely add all of the swap partition + part of the root partition to /home and then reassign the swap partition?
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11:33<SynrGy>debijit: looks like you only downloaded the .debian.gz and dsc
11:34<SynrGy>debijit: of course, since you didn't say what you're doing, i can't speculate further
11:34<mohammad-ghasemi>I want to know If there is a risk involved. I've partition resizing in windows before without hurting the windows. I want to know If the process is similar or there are some consideration I should take into account
11:35<debijit>SynrGy, I was packaging cortina.. a wallpaper changer for gnome..
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11:36<debijit>SynrGy,, debian/source has native 3.0 , I changed to quilt.. but Now I got this
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11:37<SynrGy>it's pretty self-explanatory. also if you're packaging stuff and have packaging questions, they belong on #debian-mentors ...
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11:38<SynrGy>you don't have an original tarball for the source. you need one following the correct filename scheme as per the error message.
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11:38<SynrGy>the upstream version# in your debian/changelog determines what version it will look for
11:38<debijit>SynrGy, ,, Thank you :)
11:39<dworkz>SynrGy: Thank you man!
11:39<SynrGy>dworkz: ah. that link was helpful?
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11:40<dworkz>I fixed it before but the thank you cuz you wanted to help me
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11:40<SynrGy>ah, np
11:40<phillipsjk>mohammad-ghasemi, you would need a live CD or USB to do that since gparted can't shrink or move live filesystems.
11:40<dworkz>:)
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11:41<mohammad-ghasemi>phillipsjk: is there a risk involved if I use live cd/usb
11:41<mohammad-ghasemi>?
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11:46<rsaffi>what sort of risk are you concerned about, exactly?
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11:50<SynrGy>there is always risk in repartitioning, which is why it's recommended you make sure your backups are up to date
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12:24<rrt>I have weird python errors with virtualenv: http://pastebin.com/kXBvxEBv, when I run it as root it is perfectly fine, I think its the default Debian Jessie setup for python that is only for root, what can I do? Thank yo
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12:32<SynrGy>rrt: what does 'locale' say?
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12:32<SynrGy>rrt: also, please don't use pastebin.com
12:32<SynrGy>!pastebin.com
12:32<dpkg>pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
12:32<SynrGy>use paste.debian.net instead
12:33<rrt>SynrG, alright! Define locale
12:34<retrospectacus>a command. Run it as your user and root, show us
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12:35<rrt>SynrG, here http://paste.debian.net/279891/ I don't think it is that
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12:36<rrt>SynrG, I just switched to Jessie from Arch, I think it is related to the fact that my python is in /usr/lib/python2.7 that is only owned by root
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12:37<rrt>Hence, the commands works from root perspective.
12:38<finetundra>hello folks, I have an unresolved issue where the shutdown sequence will hang indefinitely. Anyone have any ideas?
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12:45<SynrGy>rrt: no
12:45<SynrGy>,virtualenv
12:45<SynrGy>,v virtualenv
12:45<judd>Package: virtualenv on amd64 -- sid: 1.11.6+ds-1; jessie: 1.11.6+ds-1; stretch: 1.11.6+ds-1
12:45<SynrGy>rrt: works fine on sid. that's the same version as in jessie
12:46<SynrGy>ownership by root has no bearing on the problem. clearly the error message complains about locale ...
12:46<SynrGy>so it's a locales problem
12:46<SynrGy>if not the setting of your locale, some locale data virtualenv expects and you have stripped
12:47<SynrGy>perhaps you use the localepurge package? if so, that could cause problems in this area.
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12:49<rrt>SynrG, I only let en_US.UTF-8 ?
12:50<rrt>* leave
12:50<SynrGy>i think that's fine
12:50<SynrGy>virtualenv works fine with my locale set similarly
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12:50<SynrGy>oh. you *do* run localepurge?
12:50<SynrGy>rrt: i'm telling you not to, by the way. not recommending you do.
12:51<SynrGy>so please, if you didn't have localepurge before, don't install it now
12:51<mohammad-ghasemi>Thank you phillipsjk, rsaffi, SynrGy
12:51<SynrGy>that will potentially make the situation worse
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12:53<rrt>SynrG, I run it as I though u said.
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12:54<SynrGy>rrt: failure to read? i said:
12:54<rrt>lol
12:54<SynrGy>13:47 < SynrGy> perhaps you use the localepurge package? if so, that could cause problems in this area.
12:54<SynrGy>THAT COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS
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12:54<SynrGy>oh well
12:54<rrt>SynrG, Well, now u know that it was not present
12:54<SynrGy>there's no way to undo it
12:54<rrt>SynrG, also, like I said its the default install
12:54<SynrGy>short of reinstalling every package from which it removed locales
12:54<rrt>The two locals of root and non-root are identical
12:55<SynrGy>localepurge is a risky package to use.
12:55<SynrGy>it has warnings all over it
12:55<rrt>SynrG, Well, forget that, I'll manage lets come back to my issue here
12:55<rrt>SynrG, what is difference of installing virtualenv with apt-get & installing it with pip --user, isn't better to avoid installing future packages with the root all the time?
12:57<SynrGy>pip is not the debian way
12:57<SynrGy>if you have bugs in things installed via pip, you won't get support from debian for them
12:57<rrt>SynrG, oh and don't worry the "apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '' | sort -u)" says no packages another that two were touched by it
12:58<SynrGy>for localepurge? it's not that simple
12:58<SynrGy>localepurge systematically "damages" every package on your system with locales
12:58<SynrGy>stripping the locales out of them
12:58<SynrGy>that's why i cautioned it could cause problems, considering the error messages you showed.
12:59<rrt>SynrG, No, let me restate my issue here: the virtualenv from python-virtualenv has clearly python ownership issue because I can use w/o problem with sudo,
12:59<SynrGy>ok. but it's clearly a "just rrt" issue, because i tested it and don't have this issue
12:59<SynrGy>nor are there any bugs filed on virtualenv
12:59<SynrGy>either a) everyone has this problem and nobody is reporting it b) nobody uses this package or c) it's just you
12:59<SynrGy>odds are heavily in favour of c)
12:59<rrt>SynrG, well, u clearly on the other hand don't have a fresh debian 8 install
13:00<rrt>SynrG, odds are clearly in favor of a subjective opinion
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13:00<SynrGy>right. i'm here to help, not abuse you. if you don't want my help, i'll shut up
13:00<SynrGy>bye
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13:03<rrt>SynrG, thanks for making me run that command lol
13:03<rrt>Me: "Do I leave the en_US.UTF-8 ?" then "i think that's fine"
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13:03<retrospectacus>not his fault you didn't read what he said
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13:06<SynrGy>incidentally, i retested on jessie. it's fine. it's just rrt
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13:10<rrt>SynrG, export PYTHONPATH= solved the issue
13:10<rrt>"When using Python, avoid placing Python-specific configuration into your shell env directly. Instead, specify Python paths, variables, etc inside the Python scripts you write and even then, only when needed."
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13:11<SynrGy>gotcha
13:12<SynrGy>so this was due to prior non-debian python stuff you had done that tainted your environment, or what?
13:12<SynrGy>worked out of the box for me both on sid and jessie
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13:12<rrt>SynrG, No I did not, I installed directly with apt-get and the tried other stuff but it always had the same error
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13:13<SynrGy>interesting.
13:13<rrt>SynrG, I never touch the path because of that usually, have a nice day!
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13:14<SynrGy>if you can reproduce it from a fresh install, you may have the basis of a bug to file, then. anything special about the install? is it extremely basic?
13:14<SynrGy>in a VM? made via debootstrap? some other thing that would make it out of the ordinary?>
13:14<rrt>SynrG, actually, is there a way to see what sets the env var?
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13:15<SynrGy>hm. well, it's not set for me ... i dunno
13:15<rrt>SynrG, directly on my / I just unmount /home and the partition
13:15<rrt>with a new system
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13:16<rrt>I don't think it was set in my home since, it isnt in my bashrc profile
13:16<SynrGy>i've just checked every debian system within reach. two of them are jessie.
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13:16<SynrGy>none of them had PYTHONPATH set
13:16*SynrGy shrugs
13:16<SynrGy>unmount /home?
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13:16<SynrGy>what for?
13:18<SynrGy>four sid systems, two jessie systems. no PYTHONPATH anywhere. not sure where yours is coming from
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13:19<rrt>SynrG, hum that is weird, unmount to be able to install new os like Debian in this case
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13:19<SynrGy>and just for laughs, a fresh jessie-based live rescue image i had been building. chrooted in, did a fresh adduser test, su'd as test ...
13:19<rrt>without touching home data
13:20<SynrGy>no PYTHONPATH there either
13:20<rrt>SynrG, anyway to track what sets it?
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13:22<SynrGy>well, i would suspect some login file of some sort ...
13:22<SynrGy>.bash_profile, .profile, .bashrc, etc.
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13:22<SynrGy>/etc/profile, /etc/bash.bashrc, ...
13:23<SynrGy>throw in some debug echo statements to check stuff as the login files are executed?
13:23<rrt>SynrG, I ran recursive find on / , I tell u if iit finds something, gotta go, see you!
13:23<SynrGy>surely you mean grep ...
13:23<SynrGy>good luck
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14:08<nestor>etn hey, i'm using Debian 8 and I followed this tuto : https://wiki.debian.org/LaMp When I go to http://localhost I only display files from /var/www/html instead of /home/user/public_html what would you suggest ?
14:10<tempest>add a conf for your web-server . for example /etc/apache2/sites-availables/yourconf.conf, then add your server name in /etc/hosts
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14:14<nestor>@tempest : it's only for local dev, i do not want sites to be available outside
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14:15<tempest>i know
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14:16<tempest>but you have to configure even if you only want a local host
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14:24<retrospectacus>nestor: serving of /home/user/public_html at localhost/~user is provided by the userdir module.
14:24<retrospectacus>nestor: you can enable it with "sudo a2enmod userdir"
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14:27<nestor>retrospectatus : ERROR: Config file userdir.conf not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf is a real file, not touching it
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14:29<retrospectacus>you fucked it up
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14:29<SynrG>woohoo
14:29<retrospectacus>you (or something else) did something wrong and created that file
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14:30<retrospectacus>it is supposed to be a symbolic link, which is managed by the a2enmod (and a2dismod) commands
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14:33<nestor>restrospetacus : which file did i create although i shouldn't have ?
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14:34<retrospectacus>the one in the error message
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14:39<nestor>in fact i already did "a2enmod userdir" before you asked (cf. https://wiki.debian.org/LaMp#apache2)
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14:40<nestor>tempest : i created /etc/apache2/sites-availables/mysites.conf ; what should I write in the file ?
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14:42<retrospectacus>nestor: and http://localhost/~user doesn't serve ~user/public_html/index.html ?
14:42<nestor> ServerAdmin webmaster@localhost DocumentRoot /home/username/public_html ?
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14:43<nestor>do i have to keep the "~" ?
14:43<retrospectacus>that's how userdir works
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14:44<retrospectacus>if you want http://localhost/ to serve something other than /var/www/html then you will need to mess around with configuration like tempest suggested (he left) but why bother
14:44<nestor>retro: does not work
14:45<nestor>404
14:45<retrospectacus>check the log
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14:48<nestor>retro : which one ?
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14:49<retrospectacus>the apache error log
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14:53<nestor>retro: [Tue Jul 07 18:35:55.092579 2015] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 10428] AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down [Tue Jul 07 18:35:56.254627 2015] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 10503] AH00163: Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) configured -- resuming normal operations [Tue Jul 07 18:35:56.254673 2015] [core:notice] [pid 10503] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2' [Tue Jul 07 19:06:30.553900 2015] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 10503] AH00169: caught SIGTERM, s
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14:53<retrospectacus>please do not try to put them here. Use http://paste.debian.net if you can't find the error
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14:55<nestor>ok sorry : http://paste.debian.net/279925/
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14:56<nestor>it hink the problem is here : [authz_core:error] [pid 10434] [client ::1:47667] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /home/etn/public_html/
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14:58<retrospectacus>yes
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14:59<CybaPunk>Hullo
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14:59<nestor>retro : but "server configuration" is in many files...
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15:00<retrospectacus>nestor: there are a lot of google results about that error; it is something to do with "Require all granted" instead of "Allow from all" but you will have to track down where. It sounds like you have been messing with your configurations a bit
15:01<retrospectacus>nestor: that wiki page might be out of date; there were a few changes from apache 2.2 to 2.4
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15:03<nestor>retro : ok i look for it, thanks
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15:17<DefaultRJ>hello
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15:22<nestor>retrospectacus : ok i modified /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf as required in http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#access but stil not working
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15:32<nestor>retrospectatus : here the log : AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
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15:34<retrospectacus>that is obviously not useful information
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15:35<retrospectacus>if you want help, you have to work for it. I'm too lazy to repeat "what's the log say" and "what's the configuration look like" over and over
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15:57<nestor>retro: sorry http://paste.debian.net/279940/
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17:13<mohammad-ghasemi>Hi, how do you disable and enable wi-fi discovery in xfce?
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17:16<retrospectacus>https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
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17:18<mohammad-ghasemi>thank you
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17:25<cron2>I need to have a dual boot system for my work (Debian - Win). I do mostly data analysis, R/C++/MATLAB. You think that it is worth getting a 16GB RAM laptop over a 8GB one is it simply an overkill?
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17:32<retrospectacus>I have 32GB. No dual-boot... VMs. and lots of them. 32GB is often not enough
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17:33<retrospectacus>but if you really only plan to run one OS at a time, 8 is probably ok. I am not too familiar with how much ram those programs want though.
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17:38<cron2>Good point; I don't use VMs but I might have to now. MATLAB is a bit of memory-hog on first instance (~400MB off the bat compared to ~30MB of R) but other than that is how much data I load...
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17:43<at0m|c>cron2: you know your current usage profile. extrapolate to future projects with that laptop. and you'll know what to get.
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17:45<cron2>Good point. Thank you.
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19:27<mohammad-ghasemi>You can not work with synaptic only by keyboard, do you know any alternative that does?
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19:29<retrospectacus>aptitude
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19:35<mlowe>i am having a problem of slow startup on stretch becaus swap partitio uuid was changed, how do i get rid of 90 secon pause before system startuip ?
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19:39<mohammad-ghasemi>retrospectacus: thank you
19:40<mlowe>do i need to go to #debian-next ?
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19:44<mlowe>how/where can i change the uuid for my swap partition ?
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19:54<mohammad-ghasemi>when I install a software through synaptic lots packages get installed as its dependencies. But when I remove it its dependencies don't get removed
19:55<mohammad-ghasemi>how to remove orphan dependencies?
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19:57<imMute>mohammad-ghasemi: apt-get autoremove
19:57<mohammad-ghasemi>imMute: thank you
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20:01<mohammad-ghasemi>imMute: It removes also packages that I need like liberoffice!
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20:06<imMute>then you need to mark those as you want them installed.
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21:39<mic_e>hi, I'm trying to backport a package to an older distro where dpkg-maintscript-helper doesn't support symlink_to_dir
21:39<mic_e>how do I change the maint scripts?
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22:15<mic_e>nvm
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23:52<Chileno>ho
23:52<Chileno>hi!
23:52<Chileno>:)
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23:53<Chileno>ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?
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