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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-07-18

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00:34<wyatt8740>thanks. now running debian 8.1 :)
00:35<wyatt8740>http://i.imgur.com/CTI3SYS.jpg
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03:41<EmleyMoor>I've got a 6in4 tunnel that is silently failing to come up...
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03:57<HappyCoder>greetings! can anyone help me to install node.js to my VMWare debian?
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04:08<kenyon>HappyCoder: aptitude install nodejs
04:09<HappyCoder>root@debian:/home/oleh# aptitude install nodejs
04:09<HappyCoder>Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "nodejs"
04:09<HappyCoder>Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "nodejs"
04:09<HappyCoder>No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
04:09<HappyCoder>0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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04:11<kenyon>HappyCoder: you should upgrade to the latest stable version of debian
04:11<ohithere>HappyCoder: ... or use wheezy-backports.
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04:15<Gian_Rocc>Hi everyone is there any channel for cisco/network discussion here
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05:51<c01d>Hello everybody. At the moment I am at the stable branch. I switched from stable to testing circa 8 months before Jessie became stable. I had really no problems during the time when Jessie was still testing. Now I wonder whther I already can go to the current testing (Stretch) without facing any difficulties. What do you guys think? I am using Debian at the desktop, no server or so.
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06:04<CyberJacob>Hi
06:04<CyberJacob>I've got a Debian Jessie box that won't boot after a power cut
06:04<CyberJacob>It goes into rescue mode, and prompts for a manual fsck
06:04<CyberJacob>but then it doesn't give me a shell
06:04<CyberJacob>The busybox header is displayed, but the keyboard doesn't do anything
06:04<CyberJacob>pressing any key causes the num lock light to flash for a moment
06:05<CyberJacob>but nothing else, any suggestions?
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06:31<Momo>#debian
06:31<Momo>hi
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06:32<mohammad-ghasemi>hi
06:32<mohammad-ghasemi>Momo
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06:47<Guest560>hi
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07:30<gumi>dddddxxx
07:31<gumi>metamosno con el juanito ez qe fuma porros
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08:30<sfd>what exactly is this?
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08:31<sfd>hello
08:31<bdog7>sfd, depends what you mean by "this"
08:31<sfd>well, xchat got me into this then moment i have installed it
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08:32<bdog7>sfd, hmmmmm are you running debian?
08:32<sfd>yes
08:32<sfd>well, distro based on debian
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08:33<bdog7>sfd, is this your first time on IRC>
08:33<bdog7>?
08:33<sfd>yes
08:33<bdog7>wow
08:33<bdog7>this is a debian support channel
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08:34<bdog7>how ever not for distro's "based on debian" as they are not debian
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08:34<sfd>xchat opened this the moment i have installed it
08:35<bdog7>what distro?
08:35<sfd>point linux
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08:36<bdog7>i see
08:37<allan>Algun español? oespañola xD
08:37<sfd>i dont speak spanish
08:37<allan>ye
08:37<allan>yes*
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08:38<allan>sorry
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08:38<bdog7>sfd, there are many irc channels and networks
08:38<sfd>since this is a debian support channel i have a few questions regarding debian
08:39<bdog7>sure
08:39<sfd>is it safe to download debian via torrents from the official site?
08:40<bdog7>depends on your idea of safe I guess. but generally "yes"
08:40<sfd>i dont want viruses preinstalled in the of :D
08:40<sfd>os not of
08:40<bdog7>you'll be fine
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08:41<bdog7>do an md5 hash check if worried
08:41<sfd>are you working for debian bdog7
08:41<bdog7>no
08:41<sfd>what is md5?
08:41<anonymous>hello
08:41<sfd>and how can i use md5?
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08:42<bdog7>sfd, https://www.debian.org/CD/verify
08:42<bdog7>sfd, I'm just a debian user
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08:43<sfd>it's okay
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08:44<sfd>is it possible t install bootloader in my choice of location?
08:44<bdog7>I don't bother myself
08:44<bdog7>sure
08:45<sfd>well, point linux allows me to choose the hard disks for installing the bootloader
08:45<sfd>where as debian dosnt have that option in the installation
08:46<bdog7>sure it does
08:46<sfd>does it?
08:46<bdog7>install it where ever you want
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08:47<sfd>i have to recheck that again then
08:47<bdog7>I always do manual partition/disk setup
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08:48<sfd>i do that too but debian dosnt have an option for changing the hardisks for installing bootloader
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08:49<bdog7>ok maybe i wrong
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08:49<sfd>i recheck it again anyway
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08:51<sfd>is it possible to get back to this chat room if get disconnected?
08:52<bdog7>yes
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08:54<sfd>how can i get out of here?
08:54<bdog7>close the window
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12:41<sorin-mihai>i'm trying to figure what would be the best cipher to use in encryption of a openssl private key. any ideea?
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12:52<ehdb>can any dd have the right to grand access to someone for the collab-main in alioth project ?
12:53<esaym153>hmm, upgrade from wheezy to jessie and I see I still have sysvinit and init installed. Should I remove them?
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12:56<ehdb>esaym15m, whats the kernel image version stated ( of the init )
12:57<esaym153>ehdb: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
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13:00<esaym153>the machine seems to be using systemd, but it starts up slow as heck (like like before the upgrade)
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13:13<wallzero>Greetings. I am chrooted into another Debian install but when I try "update-initramfs -u -k all" or "update-grub" nothing happens
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13:27<wallzero>update-initramfs returns no error message or dialogue
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14:17<indyk>hello world
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14:40<wyatt8740>wallzero: absolutely nothing?
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14:40<wyatt8740>try with the -v flag
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14:49<wallzero>Nope. I ended up doing a fresh copy with tar and then it worked. Something must not have copied correctly
14:49<wyatt8740>ah
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14:50<fabi>hi
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14:53<fabi>i have installed debian jessie xfce. i ve an qualcomm gobi 2000 umts card. also installed but when i trie to connect i get this:(32) Connection 'AldiTalk/MedionMobile Volume rate/30 Day Flatrate' is not available on the device cdc-wdm0 at this time.
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14:55<fabi>is this the right place for something like this
14:55<Jabbi>To connect to it via ssh?, or i didn't uderstand it
14:56<Jabbi>sorry i am dumb
14:56<Jabbi>froget
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15:09<fabi>i have installed debian jessie xfce. i ve an qualcomm gobi 2000 umts card. also installed but when i trie to connect i get this:(32) Connection 'AldiTalk/MedionMobile Volume rate/30 Day Flatrate' is not available on the device cdc-wdm0 at this time.
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15:14<fabi>hi what can be the right channel for my question
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15:40<larissa>i got a weird text rendering error (http://s16.postimg.org/t3a3iki6d/Screenshot_from_2015_07_18_02_18_47.png) and i see nothing on X log files. any ideas where else should i look? it's hard to google help when i don't know where to look
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15:57<phillipsjk>larissa, What video drivers are you using? that would be where to look. Possibly disable some acceleration to see if the weirdness goes away.
15:57<phillipsjk>I suppose it could be a corrupted font too.
15:59<phillipsjk>I find it strange that URLs are the only text in tact.
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16:00<alberto>hi all
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16:01<phillipsjk>I take my initial advice back. I looks like the font does not support Brazilian characters.
16:01<Guest590>I have a small issue with ALSA/PulseAudio on my Debian 8.1 stable x86
16:01<phillipsjk>!br
16:01<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
16:01<phillipsjk>They may have a better idea.
16:02<Guest590>everytime I use alsamixer to change volume level on one channel (and after using alsactl store) and I restart the computer, I get that volume level back to 0 (and channel even muted)
16:03<Guest590>I have no clues about this
16:03<somiaj>Guest590: if you are using pulseaudio do not use alsa (and thus alsamixer) to adjust the volumes. use a pulseaudio tool such as pavucontrol
16:03<Guest590>thanks, I'll try
16:03<Guest590>I supposed that pulseaudio was just a frontend for alsa
16:04<Guest590>so it should work
16:04<somiaj>Guest590: not really, pulseaudio uses the alsadrivers, but then controls everything using its own tools.
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16:04<somiaj>i.e. the only thing pulse uses from alsa is the drivers to control the sound cards, all control should be done via pulse
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16:05<Guest590>ok, I had to use alsamixer cause I didn't find any Pulse mixer
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16:06<larissa>phillipsjk, that happens only sometimes, so i dont think it's a character problem. it only fixes when i reboot
16:06<somiaj>Guest590: usually desktops have their own applet/mixer that uses pulse, but pavucontrol is a nice de independent solution
16:06<larissa>i'll take a look at the video driver, good idea
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16:07<phillipsjk>larissa, intermittent problems are annoying :P
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16:07<Guest590>well, I installed pavucontrol but I don't find all the volume channels I found on alsamixer
16:07<larissa>phillipsjk, yes, specially when you can't read logs when the problem is happening because text is messed up :(
16:07<phillipsjk>You may want to try memtest86 or prime95 (mprime) as well for testing hardware.
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16:08<somiaj>Guest590: play around with it. I never used it but you can control things you should need to with it
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16:09<Guest590>from the gui at least, there's no way to adjust each single channel level
16:10<Guest590>so my problem is still there
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16:10<somiaj>yea I just don't use pulse so not sure what channels you are seeing. But you need to either use pulse or alsa, mixing will cause the issues you are dealing with.
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16:11<Guest590>the question is simple, I just want to stick with the Debian default, which I see is Pulse
16:11<Guest590>but at the same time, I need to find a workaround for this issue
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16:12<Guest590>I have one channel volume level (on alsamixer) which is marked as "Headphone", and is muted and always at level 0 on each computer start
16:13<somiaj>Guest590: this idea of 'default' is a bit vague. Debian's default is not pulse, it is alsa. Now destkop enviorments seem to like to pull in pulse, but this is the default of gnome or the desktop not of debian.
16:13<Guest590>in the audio settings applet (via taskbar) I found no way to change it
16:13<somiaj>though I think you can even use oss4 on debian. (:
16:13<Guest590>my d.e. is MATE, currently
16:13<Guest590>which is GNOME 2.x derivative
16:14<somiaj>yea, not sure when gnome started pulling in pulse, but either way, figure out how to configure what you want using pulse or remove pulse and figure out how to use your system wihtout it.
16:15<Guest590>that's why I came here, because I am in difficulty
16:15<Guest590>purging Pulse audio leaves me without an applet to adjust volume levels
16:17<Guest590>so if you know something that can help me with this, I am here to know
16:17<Guest590>thanks
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16:19<somiaj>yea, maybe someone with more experience with pulse will chime in. But I'm surprised you cannot find the similar levels on pavucontrol. I do know you may have to hunt around as it can control either the mixer for as stream or a device, and maybe you aren't looking athe actualy device mixers but only the stream mixers
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16:21<Guest590>maybe
16:21<Guest590>I'll check out
16:21<Guest590>thanks anyway
16:21<Guest590>bb all
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16:49<DrZaius>how do i find packages that recoomend or suggest foo?
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16:54<paxmark9>DrZaius, man apt-cache esp showpkg
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16:57<DrZaius>paxmark9: this is awesome
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16:57<DrZaius>how i managed without showpkg this far :ooo
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16:58<DrZaius>thanks!
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16:59<abrotman>DrZaius: apt-cache rdepends foo ; though it's a little misleading
17:01<DrZaius>why is misleading?
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17:07<DrZaius>actually repdends show suggests and recommends as well
17:07<DrZaius>i thought showpkg was showing that while rdepends was not
17:07<DrZaius>but both returns the same thing
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17:17<peter1138>Hmm, monodevelop 4.0.12 is throwing tons of exceptions trying to edit html files :S
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18:27<jhutchins>peter1138: There's always vi.
18:27<peter1138>Yers :p
18:27<peter1138>If it was plain html, I would :)
18:27<jhutchins>peter1138: I thought monon was MS proprietary.
18:27<jhutchins>s/monon/mono
18:28<peter1138>MS proprietary that's in Debian main? Interesting.
18:31<tertu>mono itself is free
18:31<tertu>right?
18:31<ompaul>tertu: yes
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18:32<ompaul>peter1138: it's design is free.
18:34<ompaul>i.e. published, mono code is free software
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18:56<ceibal>hola
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21:07<mohammad-ghasemi>what is :zone at the end of jpg files?
21:08<mohammad-ghasemi>for every jpg that I save, another file by the extension of .jpg:zone gets created
21:08<mohammad-ghasemi>Hi, by the way
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21:26<somiaj>mohammad-ghasemi: what software are you using to save these jpegs?
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21:36<KRONNES>Hi
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22:01<mohammad-ghasemi>somiaj
22:01<mohammad-ghasemi>saving it from vbox
22:01<mohammad-ghasemi>opera
22:02<mohammad-ghasemi>use the default opera save application in windows xp in virtual box
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22:03<abrotman>how would that be a Debian question?
22:04<abrotman>Debian doesn't have Opera or WindowsXP
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22:04<mohammad-ghasemi>abrotman you're right. Didn't think about it before
22:05<abrotman>I can see how that would be confusing ..
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22:10<mohammad-ghasemi>why
22:10<mohammad-ghasemi>why debhelper does that?
22:10<mohammad-ghasemi>what is special about that number?
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22:33<root_>hi ?
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22:34<mohammad-ghasemi>root_
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22:45<tigr-mesh>hi. is there an up-to-date apt how-to? this one is out of date http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
22:46<tigr-mesh>"APT HOWTO (Obsolete Documentation)"
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23:20<emily>!
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23:54<Dionmauricio>Olá, hello
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