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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-08-05

---Logopened Wed Aug 05 00:00:12 2015
---Daychanged Wed Aug 05 2015
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00:08<Konomi>does anyone know where dictionary exceptions are stored? Having an awful time trying to find info on it
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00:38<Jane-PC>somiaj
00:39<Jane-PC>now it works
00:39<Jane-PC>debian wiki have to be updated
00:39<Jane-PC>https://wiki.debian.org/LaMp
00:39<Jane-PC>in the apache2 part
00:39-!-k1lumin4t1 [~k1lumin4t@190.199.71.48] has joined #debian
00:40<Jane-PC>for apache 2.4, it's not the same anymore
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00:40<Jane-PC>everything as to be changed like it's explained in the "Access control" part here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/upgrading.html
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00:42<rhostat>exit
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00:45<squinty_>Konomi, https://wiki.debian.org/freedict?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=exception&titlesearch=Titles -> IRC channel, just join us on irc.debian.org in the #debian-freedict channel might be the place to ask (I am not really sure what you are looking for though so excuse me if the preceeding is not relevant.)
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02:01<siu3>hi. on sid, trying to install libreoffice, I get this: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ef18ae11/
02:01<siu3>how to fix this error?
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02:07<Konomi>the ftp.au.debian.org sure is slow
02:07<Konomi>5kb/s blazing speeds
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---Logclosed Wed Aug 05 03:36:47 2015
---Logopened Wed Aug 05 03:36:59 2015
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03:37<coli>hi
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06:06<grummund>Hi, i have a problem with okular - it crashes when openinng a pdf
06:07<grummund>the pdf is a simple test page exported from libreoffice writer
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06:07<grummund>1) can anyone confirm?
06:08<grummund>2) how to check if it is already known/reported?
06:08<Merce>heiii
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06:10<grummund>the mis-behaviour is seen with jessie latest
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06:10<jm_>!bts
06:10<dpkg>Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS
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06:10<jm_>check there
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06:19<grummund>Would someone be able to pdf export a blank doc with Libreoffice and see if Okular crashes trying to load the pdf?
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06:20*grummund would like to understand if this is a local problem
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06:20<jm_>try #debian-kde, i don't have okular installed
06:21<grummund>k, thanks
06:23<grummund>jm_: may i ask what you use for viewing pdfs?
06:23<jm_>grummund: mupdf or rarely xpdf
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06:38<hacklord>yooo?
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06:42<hacklord>save_a_donut_kill_a_cop anybody in here with that yahoo username?
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08:59<Ciemnika>Hi all. I'm attempting to install Debian 8.1 from a live image onto a Thinkpad T420 I just got (used). The installation proceeds until the point of installing the kernel and then fails, saying no kernel was found.
08:59<Ciemnika>Is there anyone who's willing to help me sort this out?
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09:02<abrotman>why not use the normal installer?
09:03<Ciemnika>abrotman, do you mean the netinstall?
09:03<themill>or any of the other install images
09:03<abrotman>yes
09:03<Ciemnika>I tried that and had the same error. I figured switching to the live dvd would be more successful given it had more info on it.
09:03<Ciemnika>Also, it was just another image.
09:04<Ciemnika>I can certainly create another bootable USB and try it with a different image.
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09:05<Ciemnika>After searching for this, it seems like the installer failing to find a kernel is a fairly common problem, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to overcome it.
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09:29<gnmk>Hi
09:30<gnmk> what is the best way to install .deb packages from directory at boot time ?
09:30<gnmk>rc.local/cron ?
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09:49<icw_>anybody able to point me in the right direction for nvidia gtx970 driver installation on jessie?
09:49<petn-randall>gnmk: This sounds like an XY problem to me. What do you want to achieve that you think the solution is to install packages at boot time?
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10:07<infernix>does anyone know by what mechanism modprobe knows to pick updated modules from /lib/modules/*/updates/* instead of /lib/modules/*/kernel/*? suppose i update a nic driver with a dkms package called mywifinic.ko and it lives in both kernel/ and updates/, how does it pick between them?
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10:20<gnmk>petn-randall: I have debian container which is bare minimum install, I need to install some deb packages at once. I don't wanted to use apt-get post installation.
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10:32<Roeti>Hello guys, i'm a bit confused by a point in debian docs
10:33<Roeti>squeezy and wheezy docs claim support for i486 but jessie's doc claim it was dropped in squeezy ?
10:33<centrx>Roeti, Where do you see that?
10:33<themill>i486 hasn't been supported for a long time
10:33<Roeti>2.1.2.1. CPU
10:34<Roeti>https://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/ch02s01.html.en // https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/i386/ch02s01.html.en // https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en
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10:37<centrx>Roeti, Squeeze and Wheezy had kernels compiled for 486, so I think it was workable, but the actual system resources like RAM and CPU might have been the system fairly unusable without heavy tinkering
10:38<themill>I don't think libc did though (and libstdc++ certainly didn't)
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10:41<Roeti>centryx : Ok thanks, that docs are not just that consistent so it tickled me
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10:45<centrx>Roeti, It is possible the 486 did not work on wheezy and/or squeeze, that the docs are incorrect about that
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10:58<Roeti>centrix : Ok, nothing is perfect I guess, thanks for your time
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11:04<mrmyers>I made a small edit to a program I commonly use with apt-get source and dpkg-buildpackage, to fix a minor bug. I'm not really familiar with packaging, but is there an easy way to submit the patch for possible inclusion in the official repo or whatever?
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11:19<centrx>mrmyers, Yes, use the 'reportbug' tool
11:19<centrx>mrmyers, (apt-get install report-bug)
11:19<centrx>mrmyers, See also https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
11:21<mrmyers>The bug was already reported a while ago.
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11:22<mrmyers>Is there a debian equivalent of a pull request?
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11:23<petn-randall>mrmyers: Yes, it's a bug report. If a patch is attached to the bug report, this will increase chances for it to get fixed.
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11:29<mrmyers>How do I get a patch file to attach? I used dpkg-source --commit originally.
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11:35<petn-randall>mrmyers: Send it via mail as an attachment to <bugnumber>@bugs.debian.org.
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11:40<mrmyers>No, I mean how do I get 'it'?
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11:41<mrmyers>Just use <src>/debian/patches/<mypatch>.patch ?
11:42<centrx>mrmyers, you make the patch using diff -u
11:42<centrx>mrmyers, Then attach the resulting file
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11:44<salieri_>hi, I turned eth0 into promiscous mode (dmesg shows), started tcpdump -i eth0 host 192.168.1.203 but it picks up only ARP packages. How can I pick up all the packages?
11:45<centrx>*packets
11:45<centrx>salieri_, Does this network have a lot of activity? If it's just your home network and you're not doing anything on the network, maybe there would only be ARP packets?
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11:46<salieri_>cetrx, It has a website, i can download the site content
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11:51<centrx>salieri_, Maybe the website is not really on that IP address? Does it work if you use tcpump without the host option?
11:52<salieri_>centrx, in that case shows only the ssh session what I'm using
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11:54<centrx>salieri_, Maybe it's a switched network? You can't see packets in other segments of a switched network
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11:56<salieri_>centrx, The situtation is the same with the router IP, the linux is plugged into the same non-managed switch as the router
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12:09<mrmyers>petn-randall: How is that supposed to work?
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12:11<mrmyers>I.e. just "diff -u" in <src>/ failed, so I'm not sure what to type.
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12:28<petn-randall>mrmyers: If it's a change in debian/patches/<yourpatch>.patch, just send that. Or did you directly edit the files in <src>/?
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12:29<petn-randall>mrmyers: I don't quite understand the issue (yet).
12:30<mrmyers>petn-randall: Directly edit
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12:34<petn-randall>mrmyers: Ah, in that case just unpack a 2nd copy to somewhere else and diff it against the modified source.
12:34<mrmyers>Can I get an example syntax?
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12:41<mrmyers>(the debian/patches/<foo>.patch thing was just what was created by dpkg-source --commit)
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12:52<wizard>I no longer feel like a linux noob
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12:53<centrx>He left before I could give him his gold star!
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13:27<sss234>does debian automatically download and install security updates for installed applications? or do i have to trigger it myself with apt-get upgrade?
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13:31<centrx>sss234, You can make them automated with "Unattended Upgrades", see https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades
13:32<sss234>centrx, thank you, that is very interesting. i didn't know about this tool yet.
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13:34<sss234>may i ask what's your choice of doing upgrades?
13:34<sss234>do you use this tool?
13:35<centrx>I always do it manually, but I am using testing/development rolling release
13:35<centrx>So there would be upgrades every day and it could be risky to have them automated
13:35<centrx>On a production system too, you would want to do them manually
13:36<centrx>But for a personal/desktop system that uses stable, unattended upgrades is good
13:36<sss234>i see
13:36<centrx>Although testing never seems to break for me anymore anyway
13:37<sss234>but you could configure it so that only security updates are installed, not functional updates, right?
13:37<sss234>that would reduce the chance of breaking functionality
13:38<centrx>testing doesn't work that way
13:38<centrx>Testing is all sorts of updates
13:38<centrx>It might be configurable for high-priority updates, which are usually security
13:38<centrx>So that is a good idea
13:38<centrx>Personally, I like to do it myself anyway
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13:42<sss234>thanks
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13:45<pmart>Hello. I'm using aptitude only to browse packages and use apt-get for every action changing system state. Every time I remove some packages with apt-get they are then marked for installation in aptitude. Why?
13:47<sss234>interesting, i'd also like to know
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13:48<centrx>pmart, I assume aptitude keeps its own list of selections that is not in sync with dpkg's list of actually installed/removed packages
13:48<centrx>pmart, Are you running aptitude as root? Does the same thing happen when it is run as a regular user?
13:49<pmart>centrx: yes, for both. Actually I need to become a root every time to cancel those actions.
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13:58<pmart>It can't be that any libapt* tool expects me to use it exlusively for installing.
13:59<pmart>And in this case aptitude seems to just do that
14:00<centrx>I don't use aptitude, maybe there is a setting in aptitude to change this behavior?
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14:07<pmart>centrx: I'll take a look. /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates is the place with the stale state. Now I can't imagine any tool other than aptitude touches this file.
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14:10<Ciemnika>Are any of you familiar with the Thinkpad T420 and getting WiFi to work on it in Debian 8.1? I'm pretty much an idiot apparently, and cannot make it function.
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14:11<centrx>Ciemnika, I have the T520, using the firmware-iwlwifi package, works
14:11<Ciemnika>I used apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi and it successfully installed.
14:11<Ciemnika>But nothing has happened.
14:12<centrx>Ciemnika, Do you have a network manager installed, such as NetworkManager or wicd ?
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14:12<Ciemnika>I honestly don't know. I did the basic Debian install. This is my first Linux laptop, all my previous experience has been in VM.
14:13<Ciemnika>Which uses a bridged NAT, so I've never had to worry about it.
14:13<Ciemnika>Should I try installing one of those?
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14:13<centrx>Ciemnika, Are you using Gnome?
14:13<Ciemnika>Yes.
14:14<centrx>Ciemnika, You should be able to find Network Settings in your Gnome Control Panel
14:14<Ciemnika>centrx, I have wired and network proxy, but nothing for wireless there.
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14:18<Ciemnika>Or are there some kinds of configurations I need to do for iwlwifi
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14:29<centrx>Ciemnika, It should just work, how did you determine that your device was Intel? It could be different. Did you use lspci ? lsusb?
14:29<centrx>Intel/iwlwifi
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14:31<y`st>(wifi issues)
14:31<y`st>I bought a device that is supposed to take video from my computer (over USB) and send it to my television. Any idea how to get Debian to send video over USB?
14:32<Ciemnika>It's definitely Intel according to lspci
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14:36<squinty>Ciemnika, make sure you have firware installed and loaded (if you haven't done already) dmesg | grep firmware
14:38<Ciemnika>squinty, it says, "Using firmware rtlwifi/rtl18192cfw.bin" and says is failed to load.
14:39<centrx>rtl is Realtek not Intel
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14:40<centrx>so it's trying to use a different driver
14:40<Ciemnika>hmmm ok, interesting, nothing realtek is shown in lspci
14:40<squinty>!firmware
14:40<dpkg>Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
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14:42<Ciemnika>So, given it's trying to use realtek fw, what should I do? I'm genuinely new to Linux an getting this to work, so I apologize for the noob questions.
14:42<Ciemnika>But I'm pretty stuck.
14:42<Ciemnika>And I really need my wifi to work : /
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14:42<centrx>Ciemnika, Have you booted up or inserted the kernel modules since you installed the wifi drivers?
14:42<centrx>not sure if that's automatic
14:43<squinty>Ciemnika, try installing firmware-iwlwifi
14:43<squinty>Ciemnika, that worked for my intel 3495
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14:44<blast007>y`st: we'd definitely need a bit more information, such as the output of 'lspci' while it's attached, and relevant info from the 'dmesg' command. And are you sure it's a video output device and not a video capture device?
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14:44<Ciemnika>centrx, restarting now. did once, but we'll see wha thappens. squinty - I did this earlier and it didn't work.
14:45<hendrikL>modprobe -r iwlwifi
14:45<hendrikL>modprobe iwlwifi
14:45<hendrikL>should be enough Ciemnika
14:47<Ciemnika>These actions did not make wifi appear.
14:48<Ciemnika>I installed iwlwifi, restarted and did modprobe
14:48<Ciemnika>And to be clear, the wifi killswitch on the side is turned on.
14:49<squinty>Ciemnika, you mean firmware-iwlwifi don't you?
14:49<squinty>run dmesg again and make sure the fireware was recognized
14:49<Ciemnika>Yes.
14:49<Ciemnika>I do, sorry.
14:49<hendrikL>lsmod | grep iwlwifi ??
14:50<y`st>blast007: <https://paste.y.st/lspci.txt> is the output of lspci, I'm not sure what is relevant in dmesage, and I thought it was video capture, but it seems it might be for video output instead. My bad.
14:51<y`st>I think I'll just return this to the shop.
14:51<blast007>y`st: oh, sorry, I meant lsusb
14:51<Ciemnika>lsmod | grep iwlwifi gives me: iwlwifi 96547 0 // cfg80211 405538 3 iwlwifi,mac80211,rtlwifi
14:52<y`st>blast007: <https://paste.y.st/lsusb.txt>
14:52<Ciemnika>Should I remove the realtek firmware?
14:54<blast007>y`st: yep, definitely looks to be a capture device for capturing analog video to your computer, not for sending your screen output to a TV
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14:55<hendrikL>modprobe -r <modul/firmware> and test Ciemnika and if you dont need it, let it go
14:55<y`st>Alright. Thank you for the help blast007!
14:55<blast007>y`st: no prob
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14:56<Ciemnika2>Ok, I'm on the laptop on a wired connection, figured it may be easier to do updates and chat from one machine.
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14:58<Ciemnika2> I've now become confused about what the wlan hardware is.
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15:00<squinty>Ciemnika, install inxi (sudo apt-get install inxi) and then type in terminal inxi -Nx
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15:02<squinty>Ciemnika, that should show you in one step which is your networking card and wireless plus drivers installed. again check dmesg | grep fireware to make sure the correct firmware is installed. see also https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware for any reference to your wifi unit
15:02<cmacq2>Just do a iwlist instead?
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15:02<Ciemnika>Ah ha! Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network connection, Card-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter.
15:02<cmacq2>eh sudo iw list
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15:03<Ciemnika>squinty, grep firewire or firmware?
15:04<Ciemnika>Would be firmware, right?
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15:07<squinty>dmesg | grep firmware (it's going to show the same as the first time... you need to install the firmware for Realtek rather than Intel) also you will need to uninstall firmware-iwlwifi
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15:10<squinty>Ciemnika, I would suggest you also still install inxi (see https://code.google.com/p/inxi/ for details) good resource for troubleshooting imho and a lot easier than trying to remember lsusb, lspci, etc etc ad nauseum. ;-)
15:10<Ciemnika> [ 11.080872] rtl8192ce: Using firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin
15:10<Ciemnika>[ 11.081275] rtl8192ce 0000:03:00.0: firmware: failed to load rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin (-2)
15:10<Ciemnika>[ 11.081279] rtl8192ce 0000:03:00.0: Direct firmware load failed with error -2
15:10<Ciemnika>squinty, I did install inxi - I just don't know what I'm doing with it.
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15:14<squinty>Ciemnika, for example to see relevant network stuff type inxi -Nx that will display the name of your cards (which you now know) and what drivers they are using. to see what graphic card and drivers etc type inxi -Gx see the web site or type inxi -h | less to see all the various parameters to use with it
15:14<Ciemnika>squinty, ahh, that's good to know, thanks. Cool. So, it's saying my FW failed to load.
15:14<Ciemnika>I removed iwlwifi and updated the firmware-realtek
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15:16<squinty>Ciemnika, so reboot and see dmesg | grep firmware again to see if the firmware was loaded properly. then check to see if drivers etc are working
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15:18<Ciemnika>ok. brb then
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15:21<Ciemnika>squinty, WORKS
15:21<Ciemnika>Thank you all so much, I really appreciate all the help.
15:21<squinty>very coo
15:21<squinty>Ciemnika, no problem glad to help
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15:41<Bones>Hello
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16:10<hood>hi all
16:11<hood>the sun is shining in the blue sky
16:11<hood>ua narod!)
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16:35<ddj>\WINDOW NEW
16:35<ddj>exut
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17:12<Dilvish>Hi! Can you guys help on how to preseed this question (yes) http://prntscr.com/819j7o ?
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17:18<ottah>If you have networking configured, using a network mirror insures you grab the latest packages during install. If you do not have network configured, then you cannot use a network mirror.
17:19<Dilvish>The network is configured, but i want to skip the dialog, using a preseed file.
17:22<ottah>https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en#preseed-mirror
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17:25<Dilvish>i have already set them, yet i still get the dialog
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17:38<root_>hello
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17:50<ncl>I'm installing debian on another drive from a non-debian system; I get the following warning: "W: Cannot check Release signature; keyring file not available /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg"
17:50<ncl>Where do I get the keyring?
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17:51<valdyn>install the package debian-archive-keyring
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17:52<ncl>I'm installing from a non-debian system, I do not have such a package
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17:58<Snow_>hello
17:59<ncl>Looks like it's available from https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html
17:59<ncl>Thanks
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18:38<el>hola
18:38<el>hay algien
18:39<el>ganneff
18:39<el>hello
18:40<Brigo>el, any question about Debian?
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18:55<juri_>anyone know what's going on with mediawiki?
18:57<petn-randall>juri_: Care to be a little more specific?
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19:04<DNS>juri_: mediawiki in general or the wiki of debian?
19:04<DNS>:D
19:04<DNS>https://wiki.debian.org/
19:05<DNS>forbidden
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19:29<juri_>DNS: mediawiki in debian.
19:29<juri_>1.19 is not supported by upstream.
19:30<juri_>and thus, i cannot get the visual editor plugin for it.
19:30<DNS>yes but https://wiki.debian.org even spits out a 403
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19:58<francisco>hello
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19:58<Ciemnika>Hello!
19:59<Guest767>i am an user of Ubuntu Studio in Chile
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19:59<Guest767>:)
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20:13<Ciemnika>Hi all. Can anyone recommend a way to remove desktop environments? I got a little aggressive with selecting them on the initial install of Debian, and I'd like to remove the ones I don't use.
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20:14<Ciemnika>I've been using sudo apt-get remove and sudo apt-get autoremove for cleanup, but some persist.
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20:21<zuul>I was getting a filesystem corruption error (UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY) so I booted into maintenence mode and ran fsck -p as root. It seems to have cleared up the corruption problem, but now it drops m…
20:21<zuul>…e at a screen with a single white underscore. How do I return to normal system use?
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20:37<jaccob>my system keeps crashing when I move a window to the top and it automatically goes full width and then I bring it back down.
20:37<jaccob>I'm running latest stable -jesse
20:38<jaccob>or no -when I do as I mentioned but with imagemagick
20:38<jaccob>no I can repeat, but its been crashing a few times today
20:39<jaccob>I just purged imagemagick and installed it again, so maybe that was the culprit and now it is fixed. If it happen again I will come back.
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20:43<jaccob>It is xfce4's windowing system and flash player. It just happenned again. I was watching youtube in iceweasel and I resized an image openned in image magick.
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20:45<jaccob>ok it has nothing to do with flash/iceweasel, cause this time I didn't start the youtube video, I just resize in imagemagick and it crashed. So xfce4 is no good these days.
20:46<jaccob>I'll just use gimp for now, see if it happens again
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21:39<nattyp>hey
21:39<bittin->hi
21:39<gaffa>ohoy o/
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21:41<nattyp>dmesg | grep wlan0 gives me "wlan0: link is not ready"
21:41<nattyp>but wifi is enabled and actually worked before reinstall
21:41<nattyp>still googling
21:42<abrotman>firmware installed?
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21:42<nattyp>ath9k? yes
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21:50<nattyp>gonna try reinstall firmware-atheros
21:51<nattyp>and reboot
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21:53<nattyp>for the record, it worked
21:53<nattyp>thanks again
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