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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-08-17

---Logopened Mon Aug 17 00:00:07 2015
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00:43<TheLastOfUs>Can anyone tell me what the point of the following sources are
00:43<TheLastOfUs>Jessie Main
00:43<TheLastOfUs>Jessie Non-Free
00:43<TheLastOfUs>and Jessie Non-Free / Updates ?
00:43<TheLastOfUs>kind of confused about the updates one
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00:47<TheLastOfUs>anyone ?
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00:57<jmcnaught>TheLastOfUs: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Component explains most main, contrib, non-free. https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates has info on jessie-updates
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01:34<TheLastOfUs>uh jmc
01:34<TheLastOfUs>are you there?
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02:00<jonathan>What's up, everyone
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02:02<jonathan>So quiet in here
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02:26<darth_>IDENTIFY
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03:47<MrRobot>does anyone know , why wash command is not working in kali 2.0? and how to fix it
03:47<jm_>!kali
03:47<dpkg>Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>.
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04:15<appas>Kali, the Dark One. fare thee well.... had i the time, i'd roll my own debian with #openbox USB sticky instead of whichever bloated DE Kali had
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04:21<ddd1>Hello,i have question related with cinnamon in Debian 8.1 Jessie,is there still a way to move the notifications in bottom right corner(margin-from-top-edge property doesnt work).Thanks
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04:46<smig>blade, pollo: is it possible to switch your camera shift with heidelberg? cause I would love to see the lecture in amsterdam...
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05:19<drybjed>hello, I'm getting reports from my servers that APT Release from their repositories have expired... I've checked in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/Release and it seems that Date: and Valid-Until: fields should be ok, is there a way to check why APT thinks they expired?
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06:06<peter1138>Hmm, damn, still seeing fs corruption with jessie guests within kvm. host is wheezy, wheezy guests had no such problem.
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06:19<Merce>Someone speaks Spanish?
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06:19<SynrG>!es
06:19<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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06:23<Merce>There is someone you can talk to?
06:23<Merce>Type text or a website address or translate a document.
06:23<Merce>Cancel
06:23<Merce>Did you mean: hay alguien con el que pueda hablar
06:23<Merce>I am a 18 year old girl
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06:24<Merce>Hello, I need help
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07:00<user01>hmm im a bit concerned that i tried rebooting 3 times and it didnt detect my home partition, then i tried again an hour later and it booted fine
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07:00<user01>doing a backup now :)
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07:02<user01>is there something i can check to find out what caused the issue?
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07:12<jm_>user01: if you are using journalctl and enabled persistent storing, you can try looking at past entries
07:14<user01>jm_, thanks
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07:16<jm_>user01: no problem
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07:47<CodeSoul>Is there a girl?
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07:48<arand_>On wheezy, why does ««aptitude search '?narrow(~i, !~Aoldstable, !~Aoldstable-updates)'»» show me a whoe bunch of packages where aptitude versions calims they're from oldstable?
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08:04<pawcio>hello to All. any body knows something why can't run update something about realeases is it some maintenance or I have a problem ?
08:04<pawcio>anybody
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08:04<blast007>pawcio: you'll need to be more specific.
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08:04<jm_>what does "can't run update" mean?
08:05<pawcio>so I have my source list all to testing
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08:05<jm_>for testing ask in #debian-next
08:05<root-bleedU>hello
08:06<pawcio>hmm I dont know how to get there
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08:06<pawcio>sorry for disturbance
08:06<jm_>/join #debian-next
08:06<pawcio>thank You jm. it is good to meet good people :) thank You indeed
08:07<jm_>no problem
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08:27<root-bleedU> wassup people !
08:27<root-Bleed>hey broz
08:27<princejuju>hahah hi :)
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08:28<root-bleedU>bleed.... you found the remmina ?
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09:08<root-bleedU>i am back... bleed were u r ?
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09:16<cristobal>holaaa
09:17<root-Bleed>hey cristo
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09:17<cristobal>soy argentino
09:17<root-Bleed>how r u ??
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09:35<claw>hey there: sometimes my system get unusable by heavy io. it usually happens when the screen is lockt.
09:35<claw>due tue that heavy io i cant log in to see whats going on
09:36<claw>i event can login on a text tty
09:36<claw>syslog kern.log etc. dont show anything
09:36<root-Bleed>wich os r u using
09:36<claw>anybody know how i could find the process that kill my system ?
09:37<claw>root-Bleed: debian of course
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09:44<claw>anybody ?
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09:52<FLD>how absolute is the rule of not upgrading packages that have gone broken in jessie?
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09:59<musca>FLD: how does a package "go breaking" that doesn't change in a stable release?
10:01<FLD>musca: for example torbrowser-launcher is a package that downloads the latest tor browser version from the internet
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10:01<SynrG>sounds like it doesn't qualify as "stable" software. maybe belongs in updates?
10:01<SynrG>(aka 'volatile')
10:02<themill>downloaders don't normally need to go into volatile
10:02<FLD>SynrG: its in 'contrib'
10:02<SynrG>though there are other downloader pkgs that don't need constant updates to keep with upstream ...
10:02<SynrG>i think they do that by posting new signatures at a site that doesn't change
10:02<musca>,torbrowser-launcher
10:02<musca>,v torbrowser-launcher
10:02<judd>Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 0.2.0-1~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 0.2.0-1; sid/contrib: 0.2.0-2
10:02<themill>FLD: irc sucks at hypotheticals. Real bugs can be discussed.
10:03<SynrG>themill: if the reason for drifting out of date is due to embedded checksums in the pkg it would need to
10:03<SynrG>but as i said, there are other solutions to that problem
10:03<musca>FLD so there is an updated torbrowser-launcher in jessie-backports
10:03<FLD>themill: well it's a real bug, but it sparked my interest in this problem in general
10:04<themill>bug number?
10:04<SynrG>FLD: in general we try to solve it by making sure the software doesn't break between releases
10:04<SynrG>by careful design
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10:04<SynrG>sounds like in this case, the design of the package may not have been entirely robust
10:04<SynrG>(without having been shown any details, i'm reduced to guesses, though :) )
10:05<FLD>themill: there are multiple ones, but a few: #784041, #793142
10:05<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/784041 in torbrowser-launcher (closed, upstream, confirmed, help, fixed-upstream): «exceptions.OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory»; severity: serious; opened: 2015-05-02; last modified: 2015-08-13.
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10:07<themill>You'll notice that the former was fixed in jessie.
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10:08<themill>and the latter is being worked on.
10:08<themill>Maybe just reading those two bug logs indeed answers your question?
10:09<FLD>both the jessie and jessie-backports version should be still broken for apparmor
10:09<themill>please feel free to read the bug log and what I said
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10:11<FLD>it says its being "looked at" :)
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10:12<themill>right. Which answers the question as to whether an update would be considered and whether it is fixed yet.
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10:14<FLD>but my point is that the requirements for the package have changed because it now downloads a newer version of the browser than what was available at the time when jessie was released
10:15<themill>I'm not sure that was in dispute.
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10:16<FLD>so now it's not quite clear what needs to happen/is going to happen
10:16<themill>Packages have bugs. They get found. They get fixed. I'm not sure that's particularly remarkable.
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10:17<themill>Make a patch and the maintainer can ask for an update to be approved.
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10:18<FLD>but when packages in stable have bugs, they get fixed in sid and testing and then the normal user will end up getting those bux fixes the next time stable is upgraded
10:18<themill>no
10:19<musca>besides ... backports
10:19<themill>https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-stable
10:19<FLD>i was under the impression that stable packages only get updated if there is a serious vulnerability
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10:19<themill>FLD: well a package that doesn't work at all is a serious bug
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10:22<FLD>ah, well then there is hope
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10:24<SynrG>yes, it's a myth that stable means "absolutely doesn't change at all except for security reasons" that gets repeated often enough a lot of people still believe it
10:24<SynrG>!tell FLD about stable
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10:41<MathesDAT>hello
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10:44<MathesDAT>anyone alive here?
10:44<mtn>nope
10:44<MathesDAT>great
10:44<root_Bleed>dis is a graveyard
10:44<root_Bleed>all dead but alive
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10:44<mtn>that question never gets old
10:45<MathesDAT>sorry, its my 1st time here
10:45<mtn>MathesDAT, do you have a debian support question?
10:45<MathesDAT>i have a problem with updating kernel maybe you can help?
10:45<mtn>!ask
10:45<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
10:45<MathesDAT>update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.1.0-1-amd64
10:45<MathesDAT>Errors were encountered while processing:
10:45<MathesDAT> plymouth
10:47<MathesDAT>im runing debian 7 on vps and tried everything from compiling kernel to searching other packages etc.
10:47<MathesDAT>and i cant update it
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10:47<MathesDAT>i need to use iptables nat but my old kernel on vps dont support it
10:48<mtn>MathesDAT, supported kernels are in the repos, also check out backports
10:48<root_Bleed>hw long hve u been using debian 7
10:48<MathesDAT>hard to tell im not a pro linux user
10:49<MathesDAT>mtn, i tried this way
10:49<MathesDAT>and this is error which i get from apt-get install linux-imageversion
10:51<MathesDAT>so, any ideas?
10:51<mtn>MathesDAT, well, that is not a debian kernel, is it? or if it is, where did you get it?
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10:54<MathesDAT>well
10:54<MathesDAT>i bought a vps
10:54<MathesDAT>and it's preinstalled
10:55<MathesDAT>i can choose some of os but every is on the same kernel
10:55<MathesDAT>and its really hard for me to update it
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10:55<mtn>MathesDAT, that kernel is very uptodate. maybe talk to your vps support?
10:56<MathesDAT>i will try if there is no other way to do it
10:56<MathesDAT>im sitting on this about 20 hours for now
10:56<MathesDAT>and getting mad
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10:59<MathesDAT>wait wait, im speaking on two other channels
10:59<MathesDAT>my kernel is 2.6.32-042stab108.3
11:00<MathesDAT>by "imageversion" i meant one from apt-cache search linux-image
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11:13<shirish>how do I chat with other systems who are also using debian on the same network ?
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11:13<shirish>is there an app. that can do that, on the CLI ?
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11:44<phillipsjk>shirish, I think there was a classic protocol that did that with little to no security, but can't find references to it.
11:45<shirish>phillipsjk: I also vaguely remember but not so much now, if you find something, please holler here.
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11:49<phillipsjk>maybey "send" http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1312.txt
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12:28<lancelot_of>hi there
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12:30<lancelot_of>sorry for the naive question, but I am facing a problem becoming crazy. Most of all GUI software in Linux are now based on gtk, tk and other graphical libraries. Does anyone tell me what the "oldest" ones, like xpdf, use as their graphical libraries? Are they gtk (I suspect not)? C++?TCL?
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12:42<Gabriel_7>lancelot_of, xpdf is apparently using moti.
12:42<Gabriel_7>*motif
12:42<Gabriel_7>It depends on libxm4.
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12:51<lancelot_of>Gabriel_7, thanks a lot, the problem is that a program that should appear this way: http://www.fluka.org/flair/ss-input.html for me takes this fashion: http://ctrlv.in/622121 no matter of DE settings, WM or GTK
12:51<lancelot_of>Gabriel_7, I have all libs you mentioned installed
12:52<Gabriel_7>lancelot_of, ldd the program and check which libs it is using.
12:52<lancelot_of>Gabriel_7, ldd flair?
12:52<Gabriel_7>Or cat /proc/$(pidof the_program)/maps
12:53<Gabriel_7>`ldd /path/to/flair` or (better) `pmap $(pidof flair)`
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12:54<lancelot_of>Gabriel_7, http://paste.debian.net/295848/
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12:55<Gabriel_7>lancelot_of, hmm no this is just a wrapper process not the correct one. You have to find the correct child process of this one (use pstree -p).
12:56<Gabriel_7>You can directly "pstree -p $(pidof flair)".
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12:57<lancelot_of>Gabriel_7, flair (10059)-----flair(10060)----python(10062)------python(10063)
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12:58<Gabriel_7>Well pmap 10059 10060 10062 10063
12:59<FLD>does this looks like a sane apt configuration?: http://paste.debian.net/295860/
12:59<FLD>or could i improve it somehow?
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13:00<lancelot_of>Gabriel_7, http://paste.debian.net/295861/
13:01<Gabriel_7>lancelot_of, libtk8.6.so => This is a GUI Tk. You should duckduckgo your problem with this. Can't help more than that.
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15:05<vor7ex>hi all
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15:18<skyeye>ho installato da poche ore debian ma non mi dà il wifi come risolvo?
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15:40<blast007>!it
15:40<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help.
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15:47<thomasross>there is a package, arduino, that has not had any new uploads since 2014-04-06, sid is at 1.0.5, which is ages out of date, experimental is at 1.5, not so much out of date. its not up for adoption, what can be done? can i ask the maintainer to update it? can i offer to take it over?
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15:52<jhutchins>thomasross: Has there been upstream activity?
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15:52<jhutchins>thomasross: Have you searched the mailing lists for any discussion?
15:52<thomasross>jhutchins: yes, upstream is at 1.6
15:52<thomasross>jhutchins: no, ill do that now
15:53<jhutchins>thomasross: If there's nothing there, you might drop a line to the (previous?) maintainer and ask what the status is.
15:54<thomasross>jhutchins: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780706#10
15:54<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/780706 in arduino (forwarded, upstream): «arduino: Request for Arduino IDE 1.6.1 package»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2015-03-18; last modified: 2015-07-08.
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15:56<thomasross>jhutchins: seems like upstream is blocking it
15:57<jhutchins>Interesting.
15:57<jhutchins>The politics of volunteer work.
15:57<thomasross>*sigh*
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16:00<thomasross>the last message from a dev on the arudino project was february...
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16:24<anoptimous>Hi, any nice slim panels you guys recomend these days? been a while since i used openbox...
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16:42<JacksGT>Is there a simple way to list all packages not in main? (i.e. in contrib and non-free)
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17:25<jhutchins>jamesmc: A way, probably, a simple one, no.
17:26<jhutchins>JacksGT: A way, probably, a simple one, no.
17:26<jhutchins>mrfrle tab completion.
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17:48<prosta_35_germany>Good evening
17:49<prosta_35_germany>http://pastie.org/10357470
17:50<prosta_35_germany>does anyone know about the fault of Video4Linux?
17:52<prosta_35_germany>I am used to self-contained install scripts, although I know that I can not expect this under linux, somebody any of you also installed Video 4 Linux
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17:54<prosta_35_germany>Its rather complex and I am searching for simple solutions in easy words
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18:01<prosta_35_germany>It says "recipe", although I am not cooking.
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18:06<prosta_35_germany>adios
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18:34<satdav>why did you move away from freenode to here
18:34<sney>!oftc move
18:34<dpkg>irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html. Operators and bots (see <fact sharing>) will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on one or other network. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html
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18:42<satdav>you should put a reley bot between the 2
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18:46<sney>to relay all the messages? why?
18:46<sney>many helpers are in both. and the factoid bots are in both.
18:47<sney>for an OS with as large a userbase as debian, it's useful to have 2 separate support channels that are equally 'official'
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18:47<satdav>sney, what kind of bot is debhelper
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18:47<sney>that one is flood/spam control mostly
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18:50<satdav>cool the helper is it a eggdrop
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18:54<Falcon>hello
18:54<Falcon>is anyone there?
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18:55<mtn>Don't ask to ask, if anyone is here or alive, or uses something. Just ask your question and someone will answer if they can.
18:55<satdav>Falcon, please ask your question
18:55<Falcon>oh hello
18:55<Falcon>i didnt have a question yet
18:55<Falcon>is anyone else on?
18:56<koollman>no. no one
18:56<Falcon>lol
18:56<Falcon>so is anyone normally on this channel or no?
18:57<mtn>Falcon, this is not an idle chat channel, but a channel for debian support
18:57<Falcon>ah gotchya
18:58<satdav>Falcon, you can idle in #debian-offtopic I am sure
19:00<Falcon>sweet I will look there im just trying different channels
19:00<Falcon>Thank you though
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19:17<MeanderingCode>any clues as to why i can't seem to get simple-cdd's installer to ask me which profiles to install?
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19:31<augustomorais>Hi. Does someone know where I can find debian support (It can be pay).
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19:36<MeanderingCode>heck, it's not even installing default.packages :/
19:36<MeanderingCode>default.preseed is used
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20:16<abrotman>augustomorais: debian.org/consultants, or ask here .. depends what you're looking for
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20:19<augustomorais>abrotman, I don't know why but google hangouts doesn't send message (text) on my debian. I already used a live cd with debian/ubuntu and still not working. I thought that could be a hardware problem (sound issue) but I not thing so because I disable the soundcard.
20:20<abrotman>Debian/Ubuntu are not hte same thing. which are youusing?
20:20<augustomorais>the problem is that this happens on all browsers (chrome, chromium, firefox)
20:20<augustomorais>debian testing
20:20<abrotman>Then why would you say ubuntu?
20:20<augustomorais>abrotman, just for test.
20:21<abrotman>...
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20:21<augustomorais>abrotman, I thought that it could a debian problem.
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20:22<abrotman>Are you using it in a browser, or the desktop app?
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20:22<abrotman>and why are you using the liveCD?
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20:23<augustomorais>abrotman, both
20:24<augustomorais>abrotman, now I installed
20:24<augustomorais>abrotman, even on anonimous tab doesnt work.
20:24<augustomorais>*anonymous
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20:26<abrotman>I'm not sure why you thnik that would help
20:27<abrotman>augustomorais: do you have flash installed?
20:28<augustomorais>abrotman, yep.
20:28<augustomorais>could be it ?
20:28<abrotman>is it up to date?
20:28<augustomorais>abrotman, yep.
20:29<abrotman>how did you check?
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20:29<augustomorais>http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
20:29<augustomorais>Im using 18.0.0.233
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20:29<abrotman>Oh, in Chrome
20:29<abrotman>have you tried Iceweasel? My hangouts works just fine in Iceweasel
20:30<augustomorais>let me see again
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20:33<augustomorais>well. on chromium I cant see the current version installed. but the flash works. http://jmp.sh/xAHc6On
20:33<augustomorais>but I have the same problem on hangouts inside the gmail website
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20:36<augustomorais>abrotman, one time it works but I didnt do anything.
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20:37<augustomorais>abrotman, I always get this error: "Uh oh. Something's not right." and "We're having trouble loading this Hangout"
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20:38<augustomorais>abrotman, seems that have a firewall blocking the packages. But I dont have anyone
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22:40<twb>I'm trying to use localepurge to delete *most* locales, but I also want to delete *all* docs. This worked on wheezy, but it's broken on jessie, where localepurge uses dpkg.cfg.d: http://sprunge.us/iYWR
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22:41<twb>I previously had dpkg.cfg.d/10excludes and I tried simply moving it to 75excludes so that it applied "after" 50localepurge, but I'm still seeing files in /usr/share/man1 (after forcibly reinstalling all packages, so path-exclude/include gets reapplied)
22:42<chamuco>Hello everyone. I'm trying to install Debian 8 but its failing at installing the base system. It's giving an error that it can't locate the kernel linux-image-3.0.6-4. I am trying to install from a bootable usb and when trying to install debian 7 instead i get the same error but for kernel 3.0.2. I am on a network via LAN. Any suggestions on how to fix this issue?
22:43<twb>chamuco: I don't think 3.0.2 is the kernel that wheezy uses. Do you mean 3.2 ?
22:44<chamuco>twb yes sorry, 3.2 on Debian 7 Wheezy
22:45<twb>chamuco: how old is your install media?
22:45<chamuco>first time i've ever had issues with a kernel not being found during an install twb
22:45<twb>chamuco: this could happen if it is very old
22:45<chamuco>not over 12 months old tops twb
22:45<twb>I mean that you downloaded the installer .iso a long time ago- not the age of the USB key hardware :-)
22:45<twb>OK.
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22:45<chamuco>i was trying the cd iso, should i try the dvd iso twb?
22:46<twb>Then the other likely case is that your apt mirror is old or broken.
22:46<chamuco>lol gotcha, i downloaded the latest images
22:46<chamuco>its a fresh install, i formatted the partition i am attempting to install to twb
22:46<twb>I would try downloading a fresh .iso and also using httpredir.debian.org instead of local mirror, at least for initial install
22:47<twb>For this test you should not need the whole DVD iso; a smaller installer will do
22:47<chamuco>ok because both iso's, 7 and 8, were fresh downloads
22:48<twb>the only differnece between isos is how many packages are cached in the ISO.
22:48<chamuco>understood
22:48<twb>So if you are installing without internet a DVD ISO is good, but if you have fast internet then a small ISO is easier
22:48<chamuco>should i try a net install?
22:48<twb>"netinst" is just a smaller iso because more comes from the internet :-)
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22:49<twb>There is also "netboot" installer which is even smaller (about 15MB).
22:49<twb>But the install program is the same for all of them
22:49<chamuco>ok i will try that first, since its having issues finding the kernel with the current apt sources but i cannot find in the live usb where to change the sources list
22:50<twb>when you do the install it should ask you which mirror to use
22:50<chamuco>i had a previous issue where aptitude looks first in the cdrom
22:50<twb>It probably defaults to using one in your country
22:50<chamuco>ok let me check what mirror its defaulting to
22:50<twb>You might have to choose "expert install" to get that question
22:50<chamuco>and ill try to find one more local
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22:50<chamuco>ok i tried using both the regular gui and also the expert install
22:50<twb>chamuco: try httpredir.debian.org which will pick a nearby mirror that is definitely working
22:51<chamuco>ok will do
22:51<twb>You can type that into "enter mirror manually" or so
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22:51<chamuco>awesome i will try that twb
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22:51<twb>I have not seen your problem with a stable install, but it happens with a testing install if the mirror and the installer are different ages
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22:56<twb>Ohhh, 2to3.1.gz at least is a symlink so that's OK
22:56<twb>find /usr/share/man/ -type f -ls ==> no hits, so I think moving 10excludes to 75excludes worked after all
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22:57<twb>Yes it worked. I was just confused.
22:58<twb>http://sprunge.us/eDZI
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23:07<arinov>who was made vlc in d8?
23:07<arinov>what the hell it needs nvidia vdpau to play video?
23:07<arinov>who the hell are made this deps?
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23:09<arinov>fix fracking dependencies
23:10<twb>arinov: vlc works here without any nvidia hardware or software.
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23:11<arinov>ok now problem solved, right?
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23:11<arinov>because "here" it works
23:12<twb>From a glance at debian/changelog it sounds like vdpau is optional decoder hardware, support for which is compiled into vlc in Debian since 2014. Can you turn it off at run time?
23:13<arinov>i test all options and if vlc has vdpau disabled, it is going on to run it with nshitia modules
23:13<arinov>i dont know why
23:13<arinov>http://storage2.static.itmages.ru/i/15/0818/h_1439867692_6071653_258b674cc7.png
23:13<twb>I don't know how to do this in vlc, but in mplayer there's an option like -vo which lets you specify an ordered list of video output mechanisms to try
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23:14<arinov>yes
23:15<arinov>but default installation profiles has this shit aboard if not this - the other ones
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23:15<arinov>7 years people wait, when the deps are will be good
23:15<arinov>installing base systems to solve this mess
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23:16<twb>It looks suspicious that vlc tried and failed to load libvdpau-nvidia.so.
23:16<arinov>yep
23:16<arinov>on intel pc
23:16<arinov>without nvidia cards
23:17<twb>Usually that indicates a dependency problem, because usually needed .so get installed even if it they have no hardware to talk to
23:17<arinov>yeeees
23:17<arinov>indeed
23:17<twb>e.g. gnome will have libpulse.so even if you are not using pulseaudio
23:17<arinov>pulse is hardware independent
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23:18<twb>Right, sorry, but you know what I mean
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23:18<arinov>yes, but this is nvidia so
23:18<arinov>how can i run nvidia driver installation here to solve this?
23:19<arinov>its about 100 mb packages for uninstalled hardware
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23:19<arinov>and i doubt it will help
23:19<twb>I think your best bet is to ask the VLC channel how to make vlc run for you
23:19<twb>I think there is probably some CLI option you can pass which makes this go away
23:19<twb>But I don't know it
23:19<arinov>yep, they reading my logs 2 days already
23:20<arinov>dont, i cut this shit off from my installation as always
23:20<arinov>"unversal" concept...
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