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00:07<twb>How come in jessie ramdisk, all the busybox applets (e.g. bin/xz) are hard links instead of symlinks?
00:08<twb>On a wheezy ramdisk they don't seem to appear at all, except for /bin/sh -> busybox
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00:11<somiaj>twb: maybe check the changelog in the corresponding package to see why the links have changed, you could also check the postinst script, wonder if that is what sets up the links
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00:12<twb>yeah I'm gonna
00:12<twb>Unless someone in here remembered off the top of their head ;)
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01:35<mohamedhacker>hello
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01:37<mohamedhacker>hello guyes
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01:38<twb>mohamedhacker: how can we h- never mind
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01:52<twb>Is it just me, or are all the gifs in docbook-xsl set to be executable
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02:11<twb>I wonder when was the last time someone thought /bin/gzexe was a good idea
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02:13<twb>Hrmph, e2fsprogs is an Essential package. Blatant favouritism!
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02:24<bagginsDK>Hello, i cannot install icedove-l10n-* packages as in search there aren't in my repository. Are they dropped?
02:26<jmcnaught>bagginsDK: maybre you just need to to "apt-get update" ?
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02:28<bagginsDK>jmcnaught, i have just retried unsuccessfully
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02:29<bagginsDK>For the record i am using testing
02:30<jmcnaught>bagginsDK: oh, the support for testing is in #debian-next. Sometimes packages are broken in testing, because it's more for development purposes than for end-users (though lots of people use it)
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02:32<bagginsDK>jmcnaught, thank you! I didn't know it. I thought that Ubuntu was more cutting edge but it has the same kernel as Debian stable. :)
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02:41<twb>jmcnaught: FWIW rmadison indicates icedove-l10n-de is not in stretch currently, but it is in jessie & sid.
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02:42<twb>https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/icedove-l10n
02:43<jmcnaught>twb: it's part of the libstdc++6 transition i think
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02:43<jmcnaught>the first few months after a stable release are not the best time to be running testing
02:44<twb>Nod
02:44<jmcnaught>especially when jessie is so great and still pretty up to date
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03:09<twb>Where is the source for /usr/lib/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper in the xserver-xorg-video-intel package?
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03:12<twb>Aha! The problem is I'm looking at the /jessie source but the /jessie-backports binary package
03:12<twb>No wonder I was so confused
03:13<chamuco>glad you found it twb
03:13<twb>Yeah this is a completely new feature in -backports which is why I was so confused
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03:19<chamuco>twb are you familiar with creating deb packages from scratch?
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03:20<twb>Arrrrrgh
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03:21<twb>backlight_helper.c has code to print Usage: &c but it only exists if compiled with debugging enabled
03:21<twb>chamuco: yes, try #debian-mentors
03:22<chamuco>awesome thank you
03:23<twb>So you use it like this: echo 300 | /usr/lib/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xf86-video-intel-backlight-helper intel_backlight
03:23<twb>(except via dbus so it's way more complicated)
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03:31<ryouma>what does it mean if /sys/class/backlight is empty?
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03:36<twb>It means you have no backlight-capable drivers
03:36<anonymous>hello
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03:36<ryouma>twb: can those be installed?
03:36<twb>ryouma: depends
03:36<twb>ryouma: lspci -nn | grep VGA
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03:37<ryouma>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO] [1002:94c3]
03:37<twb>I dunno about ATI sorry
03:37<chamuco>ryouma there is a driver available
03:37<chamuco>let me find the link
03:37<ryouma>chamuco: thank you
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03:37<ryouma>this will make a huge difference
03:38<twb>My jessie polkit rules refer to a /usr/bin/pklalockdown --- but this file is not provided by any package in jessie *or* wheezy. WTH is it?
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03:38<chamuco>ryouma what version of debian?
03:38<chamuco>jessie?
03:38<ryouma>chamuco: wheezy
03:39<chamuco>ryouma you will need to use backports and install fglrx-legacy-driver
03:39<ryouma>chamuco: i hope to upgrade
03:39<chamuco>https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#wheezy-legacy
03:39<ryouma>(i hope to upgrade but xorg does not work with that card with teh free driver in jessie, due to some modesetting thing or other, even though it works in wheezy)
03:39<twb>http://lwn.net/Articles/362613/ says "pklalockdown is not in any release and will be dropped soon"
03:39<twb>And that was in 2009.
03:39<chamuco>ryouma unfortunately that driver is not supported in debian 8
03:40<twb>So why the hell does jessie's ruleset still say the active user can run it if they provide their login password?
03:40<ryouma>chamuco: ah, somebody made it official. thank you for telling me. i thought it was just me. so my choice is buy new card, don't upgrade, or install proprietary driver?
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03:40<chamuco>ryouma i have AMD Radeon HD 8210 and the driver definitely makes a difference
03:40<ryouma>s/official./official?/
03:41<chamuco>i would say proprietary driver
03:41<ryouma>so if i can trust the binary blob (which, how can i?) then that will fix 2 problems, backlight and upgrading to jessie?
03:41<chamuco>I would check in the driver up to what version of Xserver is supported
03:42<ryouma>chamuco: how do i find that out? i thought you just said debian 8 is not supported?
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03:42<chamuco>I have updated Xserver before that conflicted with the driver and I lost X until i downgraded back to the previous version
03:42<ryouma>with the free driver?
03:43<chamuco>yes with the free driver
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03:43<chamuco>per the debian wiki: The AMD Catalyst Legacy driver - supporting the Radeon HD 2000/3000/4000 series - is not available for Debian 8 "Jessie", as upstream has not updated the driver for newer Xorg releases
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03:44<ryouma>catalyst is the free one?
03:44<chamuco>actually catalyst is the propietary
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03:44<chamuco>aka fglrx
03:45<ryouma>so i can't upgrade to jessie with either the free or the proprietary?
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03:46<chamuco>let me confirm as you have the 2000
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03:48<jmcnaught>ryouma: your card is listed in radeon(4) on jessie, it should be fine with the open source driver
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03:51<ryouma>jmcnaught: the issues are (1) i have nothing in /sys/class/backlight on wheezy and (2) upgrading to jessie breaks xorg, which mumbles something about modesetting.
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03:52<ryouma>the issues with the free driver, that is
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06:28<markybob>sound in epiphany works fine with flash, but no html5 videos have sound. any ideas?
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06:32<twb>markybob: do you have this test browser? /usr/lib/*/webkit*/libexec/MiniBrowser
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06:35<markybob>twb i do. html5 sound doesn't work on that either :/
06:36<jm_>does it work in any other apps, say aplay?
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06:37<markybob>jm_ yes.
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06:46<gattovagabundo>hello guys
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07:48<Mono>Does anyone happen to know where Mousepad keeps its temporary files, so I might recover a text file I lost when it crashed?
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07:49<markybob>Mono, i don't believe it keeps one
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07:50<twb>You could maybe test it by stracing it
07:50<Mono>What would I look for in the strace?
07:50<twb>I'd check for you but I can't enable strace without a reboot
07:50<twb>What I tend to do is this:
07:50<twb>strace -fetrace=file -o/tmp/trace mousepad
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07:51<twb><do stuff in mousepad> <abort with Ctrl+C>
07:51<twb>Then cut -d\" -f2 /tmp/trace | sort -u, and you get a list of files it read/wrote
07:51<twb>The other thing you could try is lsof except it probably doesn't leave the file open
07:52<twb>But I agree with markybob that mousepad probably doesn't create autosave & backup files --- unlike vim & emacs ;-)
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07:52<markybob>i just did strace. all read files...nothing written
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07:53<Mono>Darn. I had a really nice ASCII flow chart.
07:53<Mono>I guess I will add gdb to the mousepad launcher so that if it crashes I at least have a bug report.
07:53<twb>You could also check out blockdiag for a handy way to "compile" flow charts :-)
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07:54<twb>There is also metapost (i.e. latex) for nerds and pic for really really old greybeards
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07:55<markybob>latex. goddamn. that takes me back
07:55<twb>http://blockdiag.com/en/
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07:56<Mono>Thanks for the help anyway.
07:56<twb>Oh and if you just like ascii, there is M-x artist mode in emacs ;-)
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07:58<Mono>The only reason was I need a flowchart quick and would rather not spend that time learning how to work around all the bugs and unexplained interfaces in some new program.
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07:59<twb>no worries
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07:59<markybob>Mono, so...just tossing this out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asNa86jsWmc
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07:59<markybob>Mono, it's really fucking easy. that's what i'd use
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08:00<Mono>Thanks, I'll look at that.
08:01<Mono>But my PCB program is crashing, now my text editor is crashing, I can't get a single thing done.
08:01<Mono>I am in HELLLLLLLLL
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08:03<markybob>Mono, umm...does your bios have a hd diagnostic test?
08:04<twb>markybob: I think he means the circuits he's building, not his computer, is crashing
08:04<Mono>The PCB layout software is crashing.
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08:04<twb>OK, I was wrong. AGAIN. :P
08:04<Mono>My drive is a Samsung SSD, I guess I could check it. Sometimes hardware bugs can seem like software bugs?
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08:05<Mono>Since multiple programs are crashing maybe.
08:05<markybob>Mono, quite often. i'd check ssd/ram. swap out ram modules, etc
08:06<twb>SMART self tests are cheap and easy so yeah
08:06<Mono>Any advice on how to not have those hardware problems in the first place?
08:06<twb>and run memtest overnight
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08:07<markybob>Mono, i had a heart problem a few years back. i asked the doctor what happened/caused it. he said "shit just happens sometimes"
08:08-!-mode/#debian [+l 712] by debhelper
08:08<Mono>My mother has a soy allergy which caused her heart to do weird things. The doctor told her the same thing, without knowing anything about the allergy. You may have a food or chemical sensitivity.
08:08<twb>Good luck getting a FOSS pacemaker / autodefib
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08:08<markybob>haha
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08:45<FKT>Hola
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08:46<markybob>!de
08:46<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
08:47<Brigo>markybob, hola is spanish :)
08:47<markybob>yeah...ip is from germany
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08:47<FKT>haha
08:47<Brigo>markybob, :D
08:48<FKT>Alguien sabe español?
08:48<markybob>si senor
08:48<Brigo>FKT, yo, pero este canal es en inglés. Usa debian-es
08:48<FKT>Ok sorry
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08:53<cacqsex>hi
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09:08<Mono>Something is choking my hard drive and I don't know what. Any way to find out?
09:09<markybob>Mono, i thought so. did you run the diagnostic i suggested?
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09:11<Mono>Some application is using it constantly.
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09:13<Mono>SMART data shows okay on all drives.
09:14<Mono>OH.
09:14<Mono>Strange.
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09:14<Mono>I had an enormous strace posted into a Mousepad window. For some reason that cased it to be making constant hard drive writes.
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09:15<Mono>Scary...
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09:16<markybob>what is some? use top. and yeah, mousepad reads a lot of files. all apps do
09:17<Mono>It was writing to the drive constantly for probably hours.
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09:17<Mono>Defininately not acceptable behavior.
09:19<markybob>you're telling me mousepad was writting for "hours" ?
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09:49<Jens1112>Wonder there is actually a toll to charge battery through eithernet or usb powered by wired internet?
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10:01<at0m|c>Jens1112: a PoE router if you haven't got one
10:01<at0m|c>and then back - ethernet to usb
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10:02<SynrG>so you can steal 1A at a time off your ISP?
10:03<SynrG>interesting
10:03<SynrG>you'd have to do it on a pretty large scale to make it a profitable scam :)
10:04<markybob>not interesting at all. saving $0.05 a month...pick up a penny that you see on the sidewalk
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10:07<SynrG>penny? what backwards country do you live in? ;) anyway, sorry. really belongs on #d-ot
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10:41<ash__>I have machines, which work fine with wheezy. Under Jessie the keyboard (actually an IBM Blade MM2, that presents as USB keyboard) doesn't work (or may work intermittently). Yesterday somebody here suggested downgrading to a Wheezy kernel. That didn't work. Anything else I can try?
10:41<at0m|c>SynrG: ISP delivering PoE? if it's the modem, you're powering that.
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10:43<zhanshan>hi
10:44<zhanshan>i got the problem in debian that I can not use emergency command line mode using CTRL+ALT+F1 ... and so on
10:44<zhanshan>If I hit any of these it's all the same problem
10:45<zhanshan>first line written will be "Loading, please wait..."
10:45<zhanshan>second line is cut off which makes it unable to read it for me
10:46<markybob>!kernel-package
10:46<dpkg>[kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>.
10:46<markybob>(sorry)
10:47<zhanshan>using Debian GNU/Linux 8 with 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel
10:48<ash__>I should add, that my problem occurs sometime after initramfs. Keyboard works before that.
10:53<zhanshan> virtual console doesn't work, none of them
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11:15<rickeyrich>how do i move a folder from my localhost to a virtmach using the scp command?
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11:18<g0dfrey>rickeyrich: Maybe: scp <local path> ssh://<remote path>
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11:20<g0dfrey>scp -r <local path> [[user@]host:]<remote path>
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11:22<rickeyrich>do i put the user of the virt machine for that second part?
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11:26<g0dfrey>rickeyrich: yes, or you can omit it if it is the same as your local account
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11:30<rickeyrich>thanks that will do gOdfrey
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12:24<NeonLevel>Good Morning, I'm using debian stable and the file /etc/sysctl.conf is not loaded at boot, anyone knows why ? is this a bug ?
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12:26<ixi>NeonLevel https://serverfault.com/questions/355520/after-reboot-debian-box-ignore-sysctl-conf-values
12:26<ixi>see responses 1 and 2
12:27<mohammad-ghasemi>I want to know which packages are included in each debian dvd or cd without downloading them. How can I do that?
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12:29<ixi>mohammad-ghasemi http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-dvd/
12:29<ixi>http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-cd/
12:29<ixi>etc
12:29<mohammad-ghasemi>ixi thank you
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12:30<mohammad-ghasemi>ixi can I ask how did you find the link? I googled for it a lot
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12:30<mohammad-ghasemi>but didn't find it
12:31<ixi>I saw those lists before
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12:31<ixi>so I browsed on cdimage.debian.org to find the exact location
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12:33<mohammad-ghasemi>thank you
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13:00<Jens1112>Ehm
13:00<Jens1112>Wheres the bash_history of root saved=
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13:02<Jens1112>!
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13:12<centrx>Jens1112, /root right ?
13:13<centrx>Jens1112, root's home directory is /root/
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13:37<joco>hi
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13:37<joco>im new to debian
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13:39<joco>sometimes the menu bar and the menu is grabbled, full of color pixels, I took a screenshot of it: http://www.imagebam.com/image/9e34e2430579328 -- it is veryy anoyying because I cant see the windows titles ... what can I do?
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13:44<joco>put back windows ? :)
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13:48<anon>hi guys
13:48<anon>I'm on the latest version of debian with gnome 3. I'm trying to make a desktop shortcut that runs a command. Anyone know how?
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13:50<anon>Oh i figured it out
13:50<anon>added some quotes to the command i wrote after Exec=java -jar "path"
13:51<Brigo>anon, when you say latest you mean jessie 8.1?
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13:52<anon>hmm. I just downloaded the latest version off the site yesterday & updated it
13:52<anon>how do I know what version number
13:52<joco>anon, open a terminal and enter uname -a
13:53<Brigo>cat /etc/debian_version
13:53<Xorg>I need help, can you scan my pc? BASH: nmap 10.254.119.102
13:53<anon>uname -a just says debian 3.16.7
13:53<Brigo>Xorg, why ?
13:53<Brigo>anon, cat /etc/debian_version
13:53<anon>thanks
13:53<anon>yeah 8.1
13:54<Xorg>look open ports on my wifi from internet
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13:57<Brigo>Xorg, that ip, 10.254.119.102 looks down.
13:58<markybob>because it's a private IP
13:58<Xorg>So ISP blocks. OK, thanks ))
13:58<markybob>it's not public, people
13:58<markybob>no, stupid
13:59<markybob>10.x.x.x == private
13:59<Brigo>oh, right 10.0.0.0 is private, right.
13:59<Jens1112>@centrx: yeah that fixed Thanks
14:00<Brigo>Xorg, but you can get some ports open anyway.
14:00<Jens1112>hell yeah
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14:01<Jens1112>Ouh...
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14:04<Xorg><Brigo> I will think. Now just I attended WiFi security. I used AirSlax and hacked a couple of points of the neighbors))
14:05<markybob>Xorg, you need to do some serious reading if you don't know what a private ip is
14:06<markybob>Xorg, and did you just admit to illegal activity?
14:06<Xorg>I read about it a long time ago. Yes you are right.
14:07<zombierobot>since Jessie my pc doesn't return from sleep or hibernate, the problem might be related to the graphics driver
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14:08<Xorg><markybob> I just looked at it and left. Just wondering.
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14:09<blackcat>hi all again
14:09<blackcat>jelly,
14:10<blackcat>jelly, SPNEGO authentication is not supported on this client. (chromium navegator)
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14:12<illusion>:)
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14:13<Jens1112>lol :-)
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14:33<blackcat>!flashplayer
14:33<dpkg>Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations, or <adobe flash> and <pepper flash> for non-free implementations. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash
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14:44<blackcat>!adobe flash
14:44<dpkg>Adobe Flash Player is proprietary (non-free) software. The easiest way to install it is with the flashplugin-nonfree package, ask me about <contrib>. WARNING: installing flashplugin-nonfree will NOT automatically keep the plugin updated. Read more on https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer. Try «update-flashplugin-nonfree --install» if the installation didn't seem to work or to update the plugin.
14:46<zombierobot>anybody got hints on debugging powermanagement issues?
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14:47<blackcat>which is chromium folder to install the flashplayer.so ? thank you.
14:47<ixi>use flashplugin-nonfree package, blackcat
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14:48<mtn>blackcat: chromium will not work with flashplayer
14:48<ixi>and for chromium, pepperflashplugin-nonfree
14:48<mtn>blackcat: you need pepperflash
14:48<blackcat>manually using the File " .so " Straight from the site to make NO Flash Is it possible ?
14:48<markybob>blackcat, apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
14:48<blackcat>oh, tanks mtn
14:48<mtn>blackcat: not with chromium, no
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14:51<blackcat>tanks mtn , i tryng
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14:59<jelly>blackcat: sorry?
14:59<blackcat>jelly, http://i.imgur.com/SEjd0mw.png
15:00<blackcat>transferences stop on finishing
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15:00<jelly>blackcat: I mean, you highlighted me above about a SPNEGO thing, was that meant for someone else?
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15:01<blackcat>yep, sr
15:01<blackcat>sry
15:01<blackcat>SPNEGO dont works on chromium ?
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15:31<blackcat>hard multimedia on jessie unstable
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15:38<blackcat>i dont open .mov :(
15:39<dooglus_>hi, I'm having another problem with debian stable
15:39<dooglus_>I bought a game, and it comes only in binary form. I have an unmet dependency: libjpeg.so.8 => not found
15:40<ixi>apt-file find libjpeg.so.8
15:40<dooglus_>I figured I would build the library from source, so cloned https://github.com/LuaDist/libjpeg.git
15:40<ixi> -> install the package hat contains it
15:40<dooglus_>but I'm on a 64 bit OS, and need a 32 bit version
15:40<ixi>!multiarch
15:40<dpkg>Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>.
15:40<dooglus_>ixi: I don't think there's any such package in the repos is there?
15:41<ixi>dooglus_ did you actually run the command
15:41<dooglus_>"apt-file find libjpeg.so.8" produces no output
15:41<sney>,v libjpeg8
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15:41<judd>Package: libjpeg8 on amd64 -- squeeze: 8b-1; wheezy: 8d-1+deb7u1; sid: 8d1-2; stretch: 8d1-2
15:41<ixi>is your apt-file up to date
15:41<dooglus_>yes
15:41<sney>the command is 'apt-file search'
15:41<ixi>apt-file update as root
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15:41<dooglus_>as of 2 days ago
15:41<dooglus_>which repo is it in?
15:41<sney>main
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15:41<dooglus_>apt-cache policy libjpeg8 => N: Unable to locate package libjpeg8
15:42<peter1138>according to judd it's not in jessie
15:42<sney>oh that's weird
15:42<sney>I wonder why
15:42<ixi># apt-file find libjpeg.so.8
15:42<ixi>libjpeg8: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjpeg.so.8
15:42<dooglus_>huh
15:42<sney>,checkbackport libjpeg8
15:42<judd>Backporting package libjpeg8 in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
15:42<ixi>this is oldstable however
15:42<dooglus_>anyway, I've been able to build the x86_64 version from source, but don't know how to build the i386 version
15:43<sney>not sure offhand how to self-backport with multiarch
15:43<ixi>going to need a 32bit toolchain then
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15:45<dooglus_>it seems apt-file doesn't find the :i386 versions of files for me
15:45<Jens1112>Hello
15:46<dooglus_>"locate 4.9/libgcc.a" tells me I have "/usr/lib/gcc/i586-linux-gnu/4.9/libgcc.a",
15:46<dooglus_>and "dpkg -S /usr/lib/gcc/i586-linux-gnu/4.9/libgcc.a" tells me I got it from package libgcc-4.9-dev:i386
15:46<dooglus_>but "apt-file search /usr/lib/gcc/i586-linux-gnu/4.9/libgcc.a" finds nothing
15:46<ixi>I think you will need
15:47<ixi>source of libjpeg8:i386 from testing/sid
15:47<ixi>+32bit toolchain
15:47<ixi>this is however a mess, so good luck
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15:48<ixi>oh and build-deps from testing/sid for that, too
15:48<dooglus_>oh, and use a debian command to build a package, rather than just ./configure, make?
15:48<ixi>yes
15:48<dooglus_>I wonder why libjpeg8 is in oldstable, testing, sid - but not in stable
15:48<ixi>probably did not make it into stable
15:48<ixi>some blocker bug
15:49<blackcat>I'm having trouble with multimedia , someone help me ? I installed the live amd64 version .
15:49<blackcat>I added the multimedia repository .
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15:51<blackcat>erros: http://i.imgur.com/W5q36vh.png
15:51<ixi>blackcat apt-cache policy mplayer2
15:51<ixi> -> http://paste.debian.net
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15:53<blackcat>ixi, http://i.imgur.com/6aGItaW.png
15:53<blackcat>result
15:53<dooglus_>I know this will probably give me cancer, but I downloaded the testing .deb, extracted it locally, copied just the .so file to the game folder, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./gamexe and it worked :)
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15:53<dooglus_>I know not to mix testing and stable, but since I'm not installing anything, only copied it to the game folder, etc. might I survive?
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15:53<ixi>blackcat get rid of debian multimedia in your sources
15:54<ixi>then apt-get update, and show policy again
15:54<blackcat>ixi, my source.list
15:54<blackcat>http://i.imgur.com/RuWUD4V.png
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15:54<ixi>blackcat make a proper sources list
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15:54<blackcat>ixi, ?
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15:55<ixi>http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
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15:55<ixi>your is shit
15:55<ixi>and get rid of the debian multimedia
15:55<ixi>it is not needed
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15:55<blackcat>sample
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15:56<ixi>I don't have a reachable jessie box to give you a sample right now
15:56<ixi>I am on oldstable and sid
15:56<ixi>dooglus_ just keep in mind that that setup will break one day
15:57<blast007>!jessie sources.list
15:57<dpkg>A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
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15:58<blackcat>ixi, i need remove multimedia from source.list ?
15:58<blast007>but if you've already installed software from other repositories, it's already "contaminated"
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15:58<blackcat>ixi, i add deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main
15:59<blackcat>and works intall
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16:03<blackcat>ixi, i listen sound on vidoe
16:03<blackcat>video
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16:03<blackcat>i install video editor kdenlive
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16:15<Jens1112>Wonder there is actually a toll to charge battery through eithernet or usb powered by wired internet?
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16:33<don>Hallo kann ich hier deutsch schrieben?
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16:36<OdyX>!tell don about de
16:37<don>how i can send file from PC to Samsung gallexy
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19:39<fantome>WTF
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19:54<mith_>fantome, WTF?
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21:08<leo_>Evening all
21:09<leo_>I have a problem: when I try to open the folder browser "Files", nothing happens - the icon flashes and nothing opens
21:09<leo_>Any ideas?
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21:10<jmcnaught>leo_: Hello. Which desktop environment are you using?
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21:13<jmcnaught>leo_: if you can open a terminal window, you could try running the file manager from the shell. The command to launch "Files" from (if you're using Gnome for example) is "nautilus". When you run it in a terminal like this, it might show you errors to explain why it doesn't work properly
21:17<leo_>jmcnaught, thanks - I can open it through the command line
21:17<leo_>I do get error messages as follows though:
21:17<leo_>(nautilus:3480): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.gnome.SessionManager.AlreadyRegistered: Unable to register client
21:17<leo_>(nautilus:3480): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-button-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.
21:17<leo_>(nautilus:3480): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.
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21:18<markybob>those aren't errors. they're perfectly normal
21:18<leo_>Ah, okay
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21:18<leo_>So they aren't providing any insight as to why I can't open it by clicking on the icon?
21:18<markybob>earlier it was probably opening up in a different workspace. ctrl+alt+arrow
21:19<jmcnaught>if it was already open, clicking in should switch to it in gnome-shell
21:19<leo_>markybob, I've checked the other workspaces and it's not opening there either
21:19<markybob>so check what the icon points to
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21:20<leo_>it points to nemo %U
21:20<leo_>Should I change it to nautilus?
21:20<markybob>leo_, are you using ubuntu?
21:21<jmcnaught>leo_: maybe try running nemo on the command line then if that is what you're testing
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21:21<jmcnaught>i just gave nautilus as an example
21:21<leo_>I'm on Debian, Jessie
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21:21<leo_>That does indeed give a more insightful answer:
21:21<leo_>(nemo:3534): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.nemo.preferences' does not contain a key named 'context-menus-show-all-actions'
21:21<leo_>Trace/breakpoint trap
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21:23<leo_>Any ideas?
21:23<jmcnaught>leo_: you could look for where nemo keeps its per-user config stuff, probably in ~/.config/nemo . Once you find it, try renaming that directory to something else
21:23<markybob>i've never used nemo. i'm guessing there's a ~/.config/nemo ?
21:24<jmcnaught>leo_: you may have configured something in nemo that broke it
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21:25<leo_>jmcnaught: What would renaming the directory do?
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21:25<markybob>leo_, force it to recreate the defaults
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21:26<jmcnaught>leo_: renaming is better than deleting, because you can always rename it back
21:27<leo_>Okay, great - thanks for the advice :)
21:27<leo_>I'm afraid I've forgotten the command to rename a file from the command line - can someone remind me?
21:27<ixv>leo_: it's just mv
21:28<markybob>mv ~/.config/nemo ~/.config/nemobak
21:28<ixv>`mv oldname.txt newname.txt`
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21:29<leo_>ixv thanks for that :)
21:29<leo_>and markybob
21:29<leo_>I'm still getting the same error after that
21:29<leo_>Maybe I should just use nautilus instead
21:29<leo_>?*
21:30<jmcnaught>leo_: is nemo part of cinnamon? there's probably a cinnamon IRC channel somewhere, where there might be more people familiar with nemo
21:30<jmcnaught>leo_: otherwise i use nautilus which is okay for the odd time i use a file manager
21:31<leo_>I assume you're just using the command line the rest of the time
21:31<leo_>?*
21:31<markybob>i use thunar. point being, use what you like. if you want nemo, go figure it out. if you don't really care, it doesn't matter. use nautilus
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21:34<jmcnaught>leo_: yeah mostly the command line. nautilus is still pretty good, but i think it was better in years past
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21:37<ixv>thunar is great
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22:14<Uller>what is root password for live
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22:15<Uller>also how can one monitor power consumption without pwoertop
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22:36<somiaj>Uller: on the live images the default user should have full sudo privlages with no pass needed. sudo su, then passwd and set the root password if needed
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