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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-08-26

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01:57<k-man>any tips on getting 256 colour to work in xfce terminal in jessie?
01:57<k-man>i tried setting the term string to xterm-256color but then i got vte errors
01:58<LadyAlissa>I only got term errors if you use the xfce4-terminal settings
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01:58<LadyAlissa>but if you use an rc script to do it, it works fine.
01:58<k-man>LadyAlissa, hmm
01:58<k-man>i see
01:58<LadyAlissa>https://raw.githubusercontent.com/chickennuggers/dotfiles/master/.theme/term.source
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02:02<k-man>thanks LadyAlissa, that seems to be working
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02:02<LadyAlissa>:D
02:02<k-man>next problem. how do i get dual head to work?
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02:03<LadyAlissa>Dual head?
02:03<k-man>dual monitor i mean
02:03<LadyAlissa>With xfce4 ?
02:03<k-man>yes
02:03<k-man>oh... well I'm assuming that would be possible, is it?
02:03<LadyAlissa>I thought it was native. You can go ask #xfce4 on Freenode though. http://webchat.freenode.net/?xfce4
02:03<LadyAlissa>I thought it was native. You can go ask #xfce4 on Freenode though. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=xfce4
02:04<k-man>thanks, I'll try
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02:06<k-man>ah progress. i ticked "use this monitor" and now its mirroring at least
02:07<k-man>ah, and some xrandr command, and its working now
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03:05<Jaleks>i'm too blind to find it: is there a (grub) boot option so that my live disk ignores all the (to be repaired) hard disks?
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03:29<jelly>where do we report broken mirrors in httpredir.debian.org? "deb-src http://ftp.hr.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main" has a Hash Sum Mismatch, and so do ftp.de.d.o, ftp.cz.d.o -- some of those are used on httpredir
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03:33<EmleyMoor>Is there anything I can easily do on my system to allow me to set the action of the lid switch based on whether it's running on battery or not?
03:33<EmleyMoor>(GNOME desktop if that helps)
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04:43<grummund>Hi, i'm finding that iceweasel occassionally hangs on content rich pages (specifically ebay seems to be a problem)
04:43<grummund>i tried Chrome on the same page and it hanged too with the message "Processing request..."
04:43<grummund>What's happening? and is there a workaround or another browser that would work?
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04:55<lyz>grummund: you could try Qupzilla (not guaranteed to work)
04:55<Yelo>#quit
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05:12<grummund>lyz: thanks
05:13*grummund also looking at NoScript and ABlock plugins in case these would help...
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05:27<stemid>supervisor package on wheezy seems broken. the last two lines of /etc/supervisor/supervisord.conf generate a "Error: Unexpected end of key/value pairs". if I quote the whole path files = "/etc/supervisor/conf.d/*.conf" the error goes away but supervisor now fails to find any programs I put into conf.d/*.conf. even if I reread, update, reload
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05:29<babilen>stemid: Wheezy is quite old and you might want to pull the package from wheezy-backports if you cannot upgrade to jessie
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05:38<stemid>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=700370 apparently I had to quote the environment variable weirdly.
05:38<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/700370 in supervisor (closed, fixed-upstream): «Fails to start if environment option is not quoted in conf file»; severity: important; opened: 2013-02-12; last modified: 2013-09-06.
05:38<stemid>environment="PATH"="/var/venv/gammu/bin"
05:39<stemid>but yes I need to upgrade to jessie eventually
05:39<stemid>this does not affect supervisord on my centos install so it's probably solved in a later version.
05:39<babilen>stemid: That bug has been fixed in the version in wheezy-backports
05:40<babilen>(which is one reason why I recommended it)
05:40<babilen>We use that in some setups and it is behaving fine
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05:59<Guest3648>usb stick
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05:59<stemid>ok babilen
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07:10<njumdl2014>The tab in my Iceweasel can't be moved to another window or place.
07:11<njumdl2014>How do I solve this question?
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08:27<arand__>dist-upgrading wheezy->jessie gives me libsmbclient held and some unreasonable gnome removals: http://paste.debian.net/305236/ which I can't seem to get around, any suggestions or pointers how to get around it?
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08:29<Brigo>arand__, the usual problems are 1) packages installed from outside debian or 2) pinned packages.
08:30<Brigo>arand__, well, there is no cpp4.7 in jessie, only in wheezy.
08:30<Brigo>,v cpp-4.7
08:30<judd>Package: cpp-4.7 on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.7.2-5
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08:37<arand__>Brigo: I have 3 packages from outside, and I have tried removing those with no difference, I have no pinnings, and yes, the 4.7 gcc removal is resonable. Removals of gnome, gnome-core and task-gnome-desktop however, I think not.
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08:38<ixi>frankendebian ftw
08:38<ixi>arand__ https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
08:38<ixi>arand__ I recommend you do a clean install from scratch
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08:40<Brigo>arand__, is that pc old? sometimes old drives cannot read cd burned at high speed
08:41<Brigo>arand__, sorry, wrong window :)
08:42<Brigo>arand__, what is the version of those gnome and gnome-core in your system?
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08:48<arand__>Brigo: both 1:3.4+7+deb7u1
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08:48<Brigo>,v gnome
08:48<judd>Package: gnome on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:2.30+7; wheezy: 1:3.4+7+deb7u1; jessie: 1:3.14+3; sid: 1:3.14+3; stretch: 1:3.14+3
08:48<Brigo>,v gnome-core
08:48<judd>Package: gnome-core on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:2.30+7; wheezy: 1:3.4+7+deb7u1; jessie: 1:3.14+3; sid: 1:3.14+3; stretch: 1:3.14+3
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08:49<Brigo>arand__, that is right, then can you paste the output of apt-cache policy ?
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08:57<arand_>Brigo: Without any argumetn? (http://paste.debian.net/305283/)
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08:58<Brigo>arand_, yes
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09:01<Brigo>arand_, you have sources from ftp.se.debian.org and httpredir.debian.org, i mean, twice.
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09:10<arand_>Brigo: As far as I understood it, that should be fine, anyways, removing the duplication still results in the same issue.
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09:12<Brigo>arand_, yes. I really don't undestand why your system has this problem. I would try to install just one packages, as gnome for instance, and see what will the system try to remove, and then check versions.
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09:32<arand_>Installing libsmbclient, or samba-libs complains of libglib: http://paste.debian.net/305290/ Installing gnome gives http://paste.debian.net/305356/
09:32<arand_>Brigo: ^
09:34<Brigo>arand_, check last line of the gnome paste.
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09:40<ixi>,v gnome-software
09:40<judd>Package: gnome-software on amd64 -- sid: 3.16.5-2; stretch: 3.16.5-2
09:40<ixi>frankendebian ftw
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09:49<jonathan>Hi Debian community. Can someone help me how to create a bridge interface in Debian Jessie please?
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09:51<unknow>hola
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09:52<unknow>Hay alguien que hable castellano ?
09:52<unknow>Hola? :)
09:52<berto>!es
09:52<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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09:54<[-iCe-]>lol not even a thank you
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10:12<alexunder>Hello, buddies!
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10:15<alexunder>After installing some packages, my debian can't boot with Gnome, and when I run command "startx", the GUI's solution was much lower than the normal status, so I have no idea about it currently
10:15<alexunder>anyone can give some hints or instructions to troubleshoot it, thanks very much
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10:16<babilen>Which packages did you install? Could you paste relevant bits of your /var/log/apt/history.log to http://paste.debian.net ?
10:16<babilen>(also 'startx' on its own wouldn't initialise logind and dbus correctly)
10:17<babilen>"startx -- vt$XDG_VTNR" is probably what you want if you insist on not using a display manager
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10:18<alexunder>this command: apt-get install openshot
10:18<babilen>So, could you paste the logs?
10:19<babilen>Do you track stable, testing or unstable?
10:20<alexunder>I am using stable of debian 7.0
10:20<alexunder>the log is very huge, I just paste a little
10:21<alexunder>Start-Date: 2015-08-26 22:15:57
10:21<alexunder>Commandline: apt-get install XChat
10:21<alexunder>Install: xchat-common:i386 (2.8.8-7.3, automatic), libsexy2:i386 (0.1.11-2.1, automatic), xchat:i386 (2.8.8-7.3), libtcl8.6:i386 (8.6.2+dfsg-2, automatic)
10:21<alexunder>Remove: tk8.4:i386 (8.4.19-5), tcl8.4:i386 (8.4.19-5)
10:21<alexunder>End-Date: 2015-08-26 22:16:23
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10:21<babilen>You might want to include the output of "apt-cache policy" and "journalctl --unit gdm.service -b" might also ...
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10:24<alexunder>Sorry for my behaviour, this is my log, http://paste.debian.net/305398/
10:25<arand_>Brigo: aptitude search '~b' and dpkg --get-selections | grep hold both gives no output, so thats something that arises when trying to install, rather than a prexisting condition...
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10:27<arand_>ixi: That is indeed odd, but has nothing to do with frankendebian https://packages.debian.org/jessie/gnome
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10:36<SynrG>I have a network printer attached to a JetDirect box & shared to a Linux server via cups + hplip. It shows in cups as being accessed via: hp:/net/HP_LaserJet_M3027_MFP?zc=NPI985F6A ... it inexplicably stopped processing jobs today. if i cupsenable LP4 (The queue name) it goes temporarily into a "Ready and printing" state and then stalls again
10:36<SynrG>the logs are telling me nothing helpful. what's my next step to debug this?
10:37<SynrG>two other operating systems *can* print to the printer. no problem with a Windows client printing to it, and no problem with VMS talking to it (via 'raw' port on JetDirect box)
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10:38<SynrG>E [26/Aug/2015:11:33:39 -0300] [Job 1002] Stopping unresponsive job.
10:38<SynrG>that's all i see in /var/log/cups/error_log
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10:40<SynrG>the host is a Debian jessie system, recently updated, but nothing cups-related or samba-related in the upgrades that I can see (well, a VLC samba plugin, but i can't see how that's related)
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10:41<SynrG>things that have been upgraded since the last time the printer queue worked: http://paste.debian.net/305399/
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11:01<SynrG>also ineffective: rebooting the printer, rebooting the server (i had little faith either measure would help, but the disruption caused was minimal, so it was worth a shot)
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11:08<Filystyn>best free vpn for debian;)
11:09<SynrG>augh. ok, it looks like it's an mdns failure
11:09<SynrG>i'll have to take this up with my net admins
11:10<Filystyn>BEST FREE VPN FOR DEBIAN
11:10<Filystyn>ANYONE?
11:10<Filystyn>;-)
11:11<SynrG>listen, we heard the first time. you don't need to yell
11:11<Filystyn>i need halp
11:11<SynrG>and making a smiley does not earn you forgiveness for being antisocial
11:12<Filystyn>I NEED help anyone ;-(((((
11:12<duclicsic>Filystyn: openvpn
11:12<Filystyn>thxnak you
11:12<duclicsic>now please learn to be patient
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11:42<anonymous>hellou
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12:10<finetundra>hey guys
12:11<finetundra>Does anyone know if it's possible to copy a file from a host to a client via ssh
12:11<finetundra>?
12:11<EmleyMoor>finetundra: You can use scp to copy files by ssh, but is that what you mean?
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12:13<finetundra>EmleyMoor, if I can do it from the host to the client then yes.
12:13<EmleyMoor>finetundra: The copy can be done in either direction
12:14<finetundra>Awesome.
12:14<EmleyMoor>scp host:/path/to/file destfilename, to copy from an ssh server to the machine you type the command on
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12:15<finetundra>I have to include host?
12:15<EmleyMoor>Yes...
12:15<finetundra>The word host I mean
12:15<EmleyMoor>No... the host's name as you specify it when using ssh
12:16<EmleyMoor>Actually, you may need user@host...
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12:16<finetundra>oh. Hmm. So that'd be the host's name on it's local network?
12:17<EmleyMoor>finetundra: No, as you specify it when you ssh...
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12:17<EmleyMoor>scp fred@10.0.0.4:... if you ssh -l fred 10.0.0.4
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12:19<finetundra>EmleyMoor, so what is the client is a windows machine?
12:19<finetundra>Does the same a pply?
12:19<finetundra>*apply
12:19<EmleyMoor>What ssh software are you using on it?
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12:20<finetundra>putty
12:20<EmleyMoor>finetundra: See if you have pscp installed...
12:20<EmleyMoor>If not, get it... then it's very similar indeed...
12:21<finetundra>how do I check?
12:22<EmleyMoor>cd \Program Files\PuTTY\ and investigate from there
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12:23<finetundra>EmleyMoor, Putty doesn't have an installer on windows. It's just a .exe
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12:23<EmleyMoor>finetundra: You mean you didn't use the PuTTY installer, not "doesn't have"
12:24<finetundra>EmleyMoor, Let's go with that. I've never used an installer for putty. And I can't run an installer on this machine anyway
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12:24<finetundra>I don't have admin rights
12:25<EmleyMoor>finetundra: You can get pscp.exe from the same place you can get putty.exe
12:25<EmleyMoor>http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
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12:26<finetundra>ok, I got it but it doesn't stay open
12:26<finetundra>just closes after opening a terminal window
12:27<EmleyMoor>finetundra: Run it from a command prompt
12:27<EmleyMoor>(it's a command line app)
12:27<finetundra>I don't have access to that either
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12:27<EmleyMoor>What, can't "Start -> Run - > cmd"?
12:28<sney>windows key + r
12:28<EmleyMoor>WinSCP is an alternative if you're still stuck?
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12:28<finetundra>it's blocked by admin
12:29<EmleyMoor>Not sure you'll be able to do it if the machine is that locked down
12:30<finetundra>Well, let me see if I can find powershell
12:30<finetundra>It's usually installed on these
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12:31<finetundra>ok, got powershell
12:31<finetundra>so I just run the program from that right?
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13:31<jimpop>where can I ask about debuild issues?
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13:33<centrx>jimpop, Try #debian-mentors
13:33<jimpop>ok, thx centrx
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14:32<sparky4>damn steam is fucked up
14:32<sparky4>i cannot run steam on debian jessie and it is difficult to install it
14:32<sparky4>i did install it and i will still not run
14:32<sparky4>let me reinstall it and see the error
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14:33<musca>!steam
14:33<dpkg>Steam is a proprietary content delivery and management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged in <non-free>; amd64 users are required to enable <multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net. http://wiki.debian.org/Steam
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14:33<sparky4>w
14:34<sparky4>ok
14:34<musca>sparky4: i was just adding some facts to the discussion :)
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14:35<sparky4>musca: i knew those ecxept the channel
14:35<sparky4>ww
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14:39<sparky4>musca: /home/sparky4/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: line 756: 6887 Illegal instruction $STEAM_DEBUGGER "$STEAMROOT/$STEAMEXEPATH" "$@" this line
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14:40<centrx>sparky4, How did you install steam?
14:40<musca>what version of Linux are you running and how did you install steam?
14:40<sparky4>centrx: i cannot install it via repository because it auto declines and i downloaded the package and installed it
14:40<sparky4>from a 3rd party place
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14:41<sparky4>http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb here
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15:09<dtcrshr>if you install steam_latest.deb from steampowered website it should get all the libs
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16:03<_cb^>hi all!
16:04<_cb^>what would I need to run "python3-dbg -c 'import cairo' " without error ?
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16:08<centrx>_cb^, maybe python3-cairo and python3-dbg ?
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16:09<_cb^>centrx: already done
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16:10<K-202>anyone experiencing issue in newest LibreOffice in Debian8 - error while saving document - error while saving styles.xml?
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16:15<K-202>https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36514&redirected_from=fdo seems resolved so push it to repos in D8
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16:21<K-202>I probably need bleeding-edge distro
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16:33<centrx>K-202, You can try Debian testing
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16:33<centrx>K-202, For the libreoffice error message, paste the exact error message into a Google search and see what comes up
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16:34<K-202>centrx, probably some styles are duplicated but I can't see it in navigator
16:34<K-202>centrx, it's the bug I posted above
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16:35<K-202>there is already LO 5 and newest version in Debian (probably) backports is archaic.
16:35<retrospectacus>,v libreoffice
16:35<judd>Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u2; squeeze-backports: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u4~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1; jessie: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 1:4.4.5-2~bpo8+2; stretch: 1:4.4.5-2; sid: 1:5.0.1~rc2-1
16:35<K-202>well, so I have from Jessie
16:35<K-202>I will try to update from backports
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16:44<azeem>hey, I tried to install jessie on a X250 by shrinking the Windows install and installing on one (encrypted) LVM partition
16:44<_cb^>centrx: I think the _cairo.cpython-34dm-x86_64-linux-gnu.so file is missing
16:44<_cb^>there is only _cairo.cpython-34m-x86_64-linux-gnu.so in the repository
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16:45<azeem>now GRUB fails with "attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRPYTODISK=1' in file `/etc/default/grub'
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16:51<azeem>I tried adding that (GRUB_ENABLE_CRPYTODISK=1), but no diev
16:51<azeem>dice*
16:51<azeem>so I guess I can just restart the installation?
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17:03<SomeLikeItHot>Hi everyone. Quick question regarding apt. When I try to install rkhunter using 'apt-get install rkhunter', I am given 1.4.0, but looking at http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/rkhunter/ I see 1.4.2 is available. I have already run apt-get update. Is there a reason why I can't get 1.4.2?
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17:04<Brigo>,v rkhunter
17:04<judd>Package: rkhunter on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.3.6-4; squeeze-backports: 1.3.8-10~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.4.0-1; jessie: 1.4.2-0.4; stretch: 1.4.2-3; sid: 1.4.2-4
17:04<SomeLikeItHot>oh. I'm on wheezy so I can only get 1.4.0, or I build from source?
17:05<jhutchins>azeem: update-grub
17:05<Brigo>yes, can try a simple sid backport
17:05<Brigo>!ssd
17:05<dpkg>The "Drive" in Solid-state Drive (SSD) is really a misnomer. SSD storage is basically a huge block of RAM chips that functions like a hard drive. SSD drives (obviously) are extremely expensive, but offer very high data speeds that are necessary in some applications. They can also be used as large caches on huge RAID subsystems. See also <ssd limit>.
17:05<Brigo>sorry :(
17:05<Brigo>!ssb
17:05<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
17:05<jhutchins>azeem: That step is necessary to apply the changes in /etc/default/grub
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17:06<SomeLikeItHot>Brigo: I see. I'll give that a try. Thanks!
17:06<Brigo>SomeLikeItHot, you can backport it from sid or testing or jessie, suit yourself :)
17:06<Brigo>SomeLikeItHot, yw :)
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17:13<K-202>Well, I have changed default repo to backports in Synaptics so I'm able to install LO 4.4.5
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17:14<K-202>Managing software in Linux is very time-expensive when you have bunch of packages
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17:19<azeem>jhutchins: hrm thanks, after bind-mounting /dev, /proc and /sys, that work
17:19<azeem>worked*
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17:20<wompa>K-202, or you just settle for the versions in Debian stable. What in 4.4.5 do you really need that is not included in 4.3.3?
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17:21<K-202>wompa, bug fixes
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17:22<wompa>I guess, if it's one that is bothersome...
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17:33<jhutchins>azeem: Great.
17:34<jhutchins>azeem: Glad you figured out the need to mount those, I wasn't sure where you were in the process.
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17:37<azeem>jhutchins: well, except I didn't manage to get it installed in the MBR or so, it just booted straight to Windows
17:37<azeem>so am reinstalling now after all, too bad
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18:08<white>hola
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18:08<white>como puedo canbiar de idioma en parrot security os?
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18:11<blackhat>speak spanish?
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18:50<babyfoxy>man, new to linux, first experiences with you guys were awesome, i went over to freenode for random java/css/html/php help and it's a nightmare of idiots who couldnt explain chopping wood much less have mutual kindness to strangers while doing so
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18:57<ixi>that's how the freenode experience usually goes, on big channels
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21:15<Hypertekk>Hello everyone, could someone help or point me in the right direction if posssible: First, I want to do a fresh install of Debian with the entire disk encrypted. Second, i want it to only be bootable when a specified usb is plugged in.
21:16<jmcnaught>Hypertekk: someone answered you on freenode but you had already quit :)
21:16<Hypertekk>Aww darn
21:16<Hypertekk>Could you copy and paste it for me.
21:16<Hypertekk>You're welcome to pm me
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21:18<jmcnaught>Hypertekk: encryption can be configured in the Debian installer, it's covered in the installation manual in this section (worth at least skimming the whole thing though): https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition
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21:22<Hypertekkk>Okay thank you @jmcnaught
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