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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-09-03

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01:11<jack>День добрый
01:11<jack>Кто-нибудь может помочь?
01:14<jack>Пытаюсь установить debian на нетбук с процессором атом 1.8. При открытии live-версии загрузка останавливается ошибкой: can't access tty: job control turned off
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01:15<jack>хай
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01:21<Mizzo123>Good evening. I came here for assistance. If there is anyone willing to assist me on here, I would be very appreciative, please open a chat with me so that we don't flood the main chat, thank you.
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01:22<Alissa>Trust me, unless you feel like spamming logs, there's not too much "flooding" of this room.
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01:23<Mizzo123>Okay. I have a pointed question, despite this being the third day with me using this distro. I am attempting to install a beta VPN client (I will provide the link in the next message), and the previous time that I ran the installer, it flagged every one of my packages for autoremove.
01:24<Mizzo123>So I did something wrong. Here is the link. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/1940/pia-vpn-app-linux-beta
01:26<Mizzo123>Disclaimer: I am a beginner for using the GNU operating system. I am aware that Debian is less user-friendly than Ubuntu, if you wish to ridicule me despite these two acknowledgements, feel free.
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01:33<Mizzo123>I will be back in 3 minutes, please consider answering my question or directing me to a different board.
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01:40<ryouma>Mizzo123: the debian community is mistaken when it does that
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01:54<Mizzo123>Hello everyone. I desperately need help. Please open a chat with me.
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02:15<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: You would need to ask privateinternetaccess.com why their installer doesn't work as expected. You can however use their sevice with software available in Debian
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02:18<Mizzo123>Jmcnaught: The installer is not the problem. I am admitting fault entirely in how the installer was poorly executed. I simply want to know, if I ran the linux_installer.sh from a directory inside of home, that it has the capacity to do this.
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02:18<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: if you have the package network-manager-openvpn-gnome installed you can configure the PIA VPN connection with the stuff from these files: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/openvpn/openvpn.zip
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02:20<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: that it as the capacity to do what? mark a package for autoremoval? any script could do that if it were run as root (with sudo for example). You would need to read the script or as PIA what it does and why though
02:20<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: also the script isn't necessary, just the network-manager-openvpn-gnome package and the certificate and conf files in the .zip file i linked to above
02:23<Mizzo123>sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn-gnome , then extract the certificate into what?
02:23<Mizzo123>where is network-manager-openvpn-gnome package? lib?
02:24<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: with that package installed you can use the network settings in gnome to add a VPN connection
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02:25<Mizzo123>Thank you Jmcnaught.
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02:29<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: i'm going to bed, good luck! one thing to note, PIA doesn't support ipv6 but debian does, so if your ISP and router also support it, any ipv6 traffic will not be through the VPN. network settings in gnome (which is a GUI for NetworkManager) has options to disable ipv6 for a lan/wifi connection :)
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02:52<jcrowgey>kj/bye
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06:32<kafran_>fellows, is there any problem installing a package from Experimental on Stable?
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06:34<nick>this article suggests you can do it, but I guess it depends how willing you are to deal with bugs: http://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing
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06:35<kafran_>nick, thank you
06:35<kafran_>I just need KeePassX2
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06:37<nick>I think you could give it a shot. I've not tried it myself, though I'm currently trying to install the testing version of evolution on stable.
06:37<nick>don't think keepass is going to have tons of core system dependencies so should be ok?
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06:38<kafran>nick, I'm trying to migrate from Fedora to Debian Stable. Do you know any text about how to install a clean/minimal Gnome Debian? I'm already running Debian + Gnome, but I think its too bloated >.<
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06:39<kafran>I though debian was more easy >.< I'm two days without computer rsrsrs I'm a little lost
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06:40<petn-randall>kafran: Mixing releases is not supported.
06:40<petn-randall>!frankendebian
06:40<dpkg>When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help.
06:41<petn-randall>kafran: ^^^^ it's better to use backports.
06:41<kafran>petn-randall, this software isn't in backports
06:41<kafran>petn-randall, its in beta1 on upstream
06:42<petn-randall>kafran: Especially with encryption software it's better to use the well-tested stuff, instead of pre-release code.
06:42<nick>can't you just use keepassx ? why do you need the newest version?
06:42<petn-randall>kafran: If you want to test the beta version, it's better to use the upstream one and report any bugs directly there.
06:43<kafran>becouse the KeePassX 2 has a new database, which has mobile apps to read it, So I can't acesss my passwords from Android >.<
06:43<kafran>I really need this
06:43<nick>and if you want a more minimal version of gnome take a look at the package options here: https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome
06:43<kafran>I don't know my passwords anymore (Rs)
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06:45<kafran>nick, I already read that. It is not possible to select whick packages to install at the installer?
06:46<kafran>petn-randall, but to use the upstream I should compile and install it. It is not the same using a existing package?
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07:37<nick>Kafran - i think you could choose not to install gnome at the installer, and then run sudo apt-get install * after. Think you're making things more difficult than you need to!
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08:30<rommel>HAllo
08:30<rommel>test
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08:31<borbon>hello, I have a question. I have an perl program that I compile I want to add the bin to the PATH for create a LAuncher
08:32<borbon>can someone explain to me
08:32<Jobbe>put it in /usr/local/bin/
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08:39<borbon>Jobbe: I made link I put in /urs/local/bin... when I tried ./Slic3r.pl did not work
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08:41<Jobbe>./ indicated it's a local program/script you're trying to run
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08:42<petn-randall>borbon: ./Slic3r.pl tells you shell to start a program called "Slic3r.pl" in your current directory. The ./ is telling your shell *not* to look into $PATH for the binary.
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08:42<Jobbe>when you put it in /usr/local/bin/ it's no longer local, but global - thus you don't need the ./ part - try it without
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08:43<borbon>Jobbe: Can't locate Slic3r.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Slic3r module) (@INC contains: /usr/local/bin/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.20.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20 /usr/share/perl/5.20 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/bin/slic3r.pl line 15.
08:43<borbon>BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/bin/slic3r.pl line 15.
08:44<yohnnyjoe>borbon: echo 'export PATH=$PATH:/path/toslic3r.pl' >> ~/.bash_profile
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08:46<yohnnyjoe>that assumes you're using bash, not ksh or something
08:47<borbon>yohnnyjoe: I did
08:47<yohnnyjoe>didn't work?
08:48<ZIPY>hi there, i have a integrated amd radeon hd 6310 and dont know which drivers i should use
08:48<borbon>yohnnyjoe: Imeant I had done it before
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08:58<towo^work>ZIPY, you haven't much choice, but radeon is the right driver
08:58<towo^work>ZIPY, for propper work, you need firmware-linux-nonfree
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09:01<ZIPY>towo^work: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo are you referring to this page?
09:01<ZIPY>firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati
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09:02<towo^work>yes
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09:02<ZIPY>i think i ended up in a blackscreen with this ^^
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09:02<ZIPY>but i give it a try
09:02<towo^work>you should make sure, there is no fglrx-related packages installed
09:03<ZIPY>right now it is running out of the box but rly poor
09:03<ZIPY>without acceleration i guess
09:03<ZIPY>fresh isntall
09:03<towo^work>you should also make sure, that there is no blacklist for radeon and no xorg.conf
09:03<towo^work>ZIPY, paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a pastebin
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09:05<ZIPY>towo^work: here you go http://pastebin.com/cpd61Xwy
09:06<towo^work>looks good, only firmware is missing
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09:08<ZIPY>ok ill try
09:08<towo^work>and btw, for 3d-acceleration libgl1-mesa-glx is the package
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09:08<ZIPY>ok and what about the 3rd one from the wiki
09:08<ZIPY>xserver-xorg-video-ati
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09:10<towo^work>xserver-xorg-video-ati is a wrapper, which let X choose the right driver, radeon, r128
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09:11<towo^work>the driver itself is xserver-xorg-video-radeon, which is a depend of xserver-xorg-video-ati
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09:13<ZIPY>so i dont need them?
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09:14<towo^work>them?
09:14<ZIPY>server-xorg-video-radeon and the wrapper xserver-xorg-video-ati
09:15<ZIPY>i just installed libgl1-mesa-dri and the firmware-nonfree
09:15<towo^work>you need xserver-xorg-video-ati which is pulling the right DDX
09:15<towo^work>if you only want server-xorg-video-radeon you have to write a xorg.conf snipped, because X autoconf can't find the right driver
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09:16<ZIPY>hmm ok someohow it says it is already installed
09:16<towo^work>then be happy
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09:16<ZIPY>not yet, im afraid of the reboot xD
09:16<towo^work>and again, libgl1-mesa-glx is for 3d and needed
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09:16<ZIPY>yes i installed all 3 now
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09:17<ZIPY>firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati
09:17<towo^work>libgl1-mesa-glx != libgl1-mesa-dri
09:17<ZIPY>oh
09:17<towo^work>make sure the glx package is installed also
09:24<ZIPY>yes it was included somwhere
09:24<ZIPY>it is working now thank you
09:25<ZIPY>maybe i had some leftovers from the proprietary drivers the last time i tried this out
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09:25<ZIPY>i ended up in blackscreen, but now it seems to work very well =)
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10:16<administrador>you are all idiots
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10:19<petn-randall>o.O
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10:49<jimpop>lol "administrador"
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10:49<jimpop>admin is trador
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11:12<passanger>network list
11:13<passanger>clear
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11:14<passanger>whois acous
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11:14<passanger>whois acous
11:15<acous>try prepending a /
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11:16<Gordoni>Selling kimsufi 1 server, more info on pm. 
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11:45<D->What packages do I need to make sure I have so I can get SNMP working?
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11:52<jhutchins>D-: Define working
11:53<D->I currently have none of the SNMP packages installed for some reason.
11:54<jhutchins>D-: aptitude search snmp might be useful.
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11:55<D->I'm looking at that exact search in Synaptic right now. The question is which ones I need to install and which ones I don't.
11:56<D->Since I'm trying to communicate to my printer, do I install SNMPD for agents, or just SNMP for applications?
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12:27<jhutchins>D-: The snmp package includes tools to query snmp daemons, the snmpd package is the daemon that listens for requests
12:28<jhutchins>D-: http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/
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13:44<JohnnyBlaze>talkative group we have here today haha ;)
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14:10<blast007>JohnnyBlaze: it's a support channel, so there's not much talking going on unless there is support happening :)
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14:14<muhammadi>hi... i am new to irc channel... I am using xchat to connect. How do I connect to electronics channel?
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14:24<itsmeagain>ok that worked ty
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15:58<backbox>hey Grey,
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16:30<baba>hello
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16:30<Guest486>my installation fails on execution of trigger of udev
16:30<Guest486>anyone knows this issue ?
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16:31<Guest486>I am trying to install it on my new laptop (lenovo g50 70)
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16:43<Guest486>no one kows how to fix it ?
16:43<Guest486>knows*
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16:52<bluzeo>OK wonder if i can install bungie on debian yet'
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16:53<baba_>oh sorry i did not see the last message
16:53-!-baba_ is now known as Guest488
16:53<Guest488>oh sorry i did not see the last message
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16:54<bluzeo>OK wonder if i can install bungie on debian yet-<Guest488>
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17:17<Guest488>i am installing ubuntu
17:17<Guest488>see what you did ?
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17:19<petn-randall>Guest488: You're in the wrong channel to ask for support then.
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17:28<Guest488>oh thanks
17:28<Guest488>which one is it ?
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17:34<petn-randall>!tell Guest488 -about ubuntu
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21:47<reddaemon>hi
21:48<reddaemon>Does somebody know why I can't join irc.mintirc.net
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22:57<Mizzo123>Jmcnaught: What does the exit code "Current Status: 0 broken [-1]" refer to, and why does it not state any particular package that failed to install?
22:58<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: can you put the command you tried and the complete output in a paste?
22:59<Mizzo123>Jmcnaught: This would be very unweildly. I was mass-installing i386 packages, it will be about 150 lines.
23:01<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: that's fine. you can use pastebinit to do most of the work for you
23:01<jmcnaught>dpkg: tell Mizzo123 about pastebinit
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23:24<jmcnaught>Mizzo123: hey i may or may not be around for the next little bit, but others here can help you too. Ask the dpkg bot about "bat" (short for basic apt troubleshooting) for some pointers
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