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---Logopened Tue Sep 08 00:00:37 2015
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00:10<PovAddict>YES
00:11<PovAddict>recompiling libimobiledevice with openssl fixed everything
00:11<PovAddict>I should file a bug
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00:15<PovAddict>now my systemd is thoroughly confused
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00:16<PovAddict>it thinks usbmuxd.service is still running, so it sends a sigterm... then it "notices" it's still running so it sends SIGKILL
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00:16<PovAddict>but there is no running usbmuxd process
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01:29<itachi>wew
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02:10<Guest973>hi, anyone encountered any problems with apt-get upgrade lately on Stretch?
02:11<somiaj>Guest973: yes, the gcc5 transition is hitting stretch and it could cause things to not be installable. You should also be in #debian-next for stretch support.
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02:11<Guest973>oh, ok, will go there
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02:13<Guest973>and thanks for the answer its probably it. (wish i knew that before reinstall, i thought i broke it myself)
02:14<somiaj>yea testing/unstable is living up to its name this last month. And it looks like after the gcc5 transition is complete a perl trasition is going to start.
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02:16<Guest973>well i was using testing jessie happily without any flaws for over a year. I did not expected this kind of behaviour after this experience...
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02:17<jm_>jessie was frozen for quite a while so no surprises there
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02:19<somiaj>yea testing during a freeze is far differnt then testing during development (espically the major transitions which there is at least one per release cycle)
02:19<somiaj>thoguh this one has been one of the rougher ones in a while.
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03:14<John>Hello
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03:26<rled>Hi, I tried an upgrade to Stretch. It's a fresh minimal install with only xorg and openbox. There's an issue with systemd: it won't unpack, and then with dpkg --configure -a, it hangs with errors like "addgroup systemd allready exists" "Time out quark 24" and like.
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03:28<rled>...The upgrade was actually painless, it's installing xorg and openbox that don't work.
03:28<jm_>for testing issues ask in #debian-next
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03:38<veggi3s>hi
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03:39<veggi3s>i install virtualbox extension pack from oracle site, but it still says i can't use 2.0 version of usb
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03:45<veggi3s>oh i figured it out
03:45<at0m>veggi3s: why did you install from oracle site when it's in debian repo's?
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03:46<at0m>,v virtualbox
03:46<judd>Package: virtualbox on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u4~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u5; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u5; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-3+deb8u2; jessie/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-3+deb8u3; sid/contrib: 5.0.2-dfsg-2; stretch/contrib: 5.0.2-dfsg-2
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03:51<gabo>hi
03:51<gabo>say hi if you can read me
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03:51<SpeedyG>why?
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03:54<gabo>hello
03:54<gabo>someone?
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03:55<gabo>hello, a debian expert here?
03:55<jm_>!ask
03:55<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
03:55<gabo>ok.. mmm
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03:57<gabo>wait, I'm writting it, my English is not good.
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04:00<babilen>gabo: What's your native language?
04:00<gabo>spanish
04:00<isi_>I have a question, debian stretch, idle Server but load is 1,24 1,26, 1,27 any ideas ?
04:00<babilen>dpkg: es
04:00<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
04:01<babilen>gabo: If you would prefer support in Spanish ^^^
04:01<gabo>don't worry
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04:01<gabo>about that
04:01<babilen>gabo: Sure, feel free to stay here. Just wanted to point out the Spanish channel
04:02<gabo>I'll keep it in mind, thanks.
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04:04<babilen>isi_: Let "vmstat -w 1" run for a while and then paste the output to http://paste.debian.net
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04:06<jm_>isi_: also for stretch -> #debian-next (and don't forget that outstanding IO counts into load average)
04:06<isi_>babilen: did it, thanks
04:06<isi_>jm_: iostat is nearly all zero
04:07<isi_>jm_: user: 0,31 nice: 0,00, system: 0,05, iowait: 0,01, steal 0,00, idle: 99,64
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04:07<babilen>https://paste.debian.net/310791 is the URL of isi_'s paste btw (for other helpers)
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04:07<jm_>isi_: I don't use that, I use ps to look for processes in state D
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04:09<isi_>jm_: most of the time only kworker threads are ins state D
04:11<jm_>isi_: not sure if those also count, but your numbers suggest they might
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04:17<gabo>I've been using Debian Sid (unstable) for a few years without big issues. After the release of Debian Jessie 8, Debian Sid moved from kernel 3.16 to 4.0, 4.1. After those upgrades, my PC started to freeze randomly. Something like one freeze every week and then like every day. Now, everytime I run the command: startx, after a few seconds (10 or 20 seconds) the PC freeze. I first though it was a hardware problem, but now that my pc freeze everytime I run startx,
04:17<gabo> I realise that there is not a hardware problem. I can stary in the bios/uefi setup, memtest86 and the linux terminal (without running startx) for hours a nothing happen with the PC. Continue...
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04:20<peter1138>gabo, #debian-next for non-stable help
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04:24<jm_>you should also include info on which gfx card/driver is in use
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04:28<gabo>So... Where can I start? (I though). I started removing all the nvidia packages (I use nvidia-driver) to use Nouveau. After the reboot, I can run startx and it seems my PC is stable now. I tested kernel linux-image-4.1.0-2-amd64 (4.1.6-1) with the lastest nvidia driver from its webpage (355.11) and the PC freeze when I run startx. I'm writting this with the kernel linux-image-4.1.0-1-amd64 (4.1.3-1) with the nvidia driver 355.11. I already had one freeze but n
04:28<gabo>ot immediately after running startx.
04:29<at0m>dpkg: tell gabo about testing
04:30<at0m>ew, doesn't mention #debian-next . gabo, that's the channel for testing
04:30<gabo>ok, thanks
04:30<jm_>gabo: see above about #debian-next - if the issue only occurs with the nvidia binary driver, try their support forums or try an older/newer kernel
04:30<gabo>btw, my english is fine? xD
04:31<babilen>sure
04:32<babilen>Not sure what you meant by "(I though)" though ;)
04:32<gabo>mmmm... let me see
04:32<at0m>babilen: pretty obvious, no?
04:32<gabo>¿I thought?
04:32<at0m>yes
04:33<gabo>lol, i always forget the "t"
04:33<babilen>Please also note that unstable and testing are currently *very very very* unstable due to the libstdc++6 transition (gcc5) and that problems are inevitable. I wouldn't be surprised if proprietary modules are affected by this
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04:34<babilen>at0m: Still not sure what "So... Where can I start? (I thought)" is supposed to mean, but lets move on :)
04:35<gabo>yes, I've been having problems with some dependencies... but nothing I can't handle, not a big issue.
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04:36<gabo>I thought: So... Where can I start solving the problem?
04:37<gabo>¿better now?
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05:34<Sky_Pryor>hello ewerybody
05:35<Sky_Pryor>need some geek for help
05:35<Sky_Pryor>))
05:36<babilen>Sky_Pryor: All your problems have been solved. Have a good day!
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05:39<Sky_Pryor>it is possible to mount some iso for ex debian cd iso, during instalation
05:39<Sky_Pryor>itried to install debian from usb... but cdrom no detected error
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06:16<root_977>name Droid-X
06:17<root_977>Droid-X: hi!
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06:41<cx405>Hi! Where does one put an environment variable, so its parsed just as user is logged through the display manager? I am struggling with implementing local locales. Debian has only global locales. But I found out the major culprit is that display manager is run as root, so I cant find a reliable place to source the right LANG value.
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06:44<jm_>cx405: what do you mean with global and local locales?
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06:46<Guest799>cx405: in ~/.xsessionrc you can set stuff like that and it should be sourced by X startup foo (according to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc
06:46<cx405>jm_: hi. Global is /etc/default/locale. Local is for example, on Archlinux - /etc/profile.d/locale.sh which sources $home/.config/locale. Thing is, this method does not work in Debian. I use lightdm and MATE, so profile, profile.d/*.sh are sourced only on boot.
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06:47<cx405>Guest2646: well, X is not started as current user. I look for the earliest point when user logs in, just behind display manager
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06:48<jm_>cx405: it doesn't matter, it still reads that if debian session is used
06:48<cx405>I just tried a bunch of stuff and attached logging (echo -e "I am $0, run as $(id) and my language is $LANG">>/tmp/langlog.txt) yesterday to no avail.
06:50<cx405>jm_: by debian session you mean /usr/share/xsessions/ ? And by still reads you mean $home/.xsessionrc ?
06:50<jm_>cx405: no, /etc/X11/Xsession
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06:51<cx405>jm_: is it read when X is started or just after user logs in?
06:51<cx405>because this is the problem. :/
06:51<jm_>cx405: after user logs in as it starts your wm etc.
06:51<cx405>the culprit of the whole, is ofc GTK applications. Qt applications use locale selected by login without problem
06:52<jm_>hmm, I use the same locale setting for GTK apps
06:52<cx405>jm_, Guest799: okay will try out, thanks for suggestions
06:52<cx405>jm_: if your global LANG matches local lang, then its not a problem
06:52<jm_>cx405: ahh mixed values, yeah that can be a pain
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06:53<cx405>jm_: maybe they changes stuff in GNOME3 (gdm) so it somehow supplies selected value. But I don't use Gnome3, but a bunch of GTK apps.
06:53<cx405>changed*; as mentioned here https://wiki.debian.org/Locale#GDM
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06:58<Droid-X>hi
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07:06<Droid-X>Türk varmı ?
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09:02<flips>got some trouble with pinning. Added unstable to sources.list and added rules to /etc/apt/preferences.d/custom, wants it to only be used is dependencies cannot be met otherwise.
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09:04<flips>I seem to get 500 packages from unstable if I dist-upgrade, tried following https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences
09:09<themill>that doesn't show what your actual pinning is
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09:11<flips>I tried setting https://paste.debian.net/310870/
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09:11<flips>(and other values)
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09:12<themill>We need to see all the config, not just some of it; the output of "apt-cache policy" too
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09:22<flips>I think I see a problem, I just don't know how to fix it ... https://paste.debian.net/310874/
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09:24<themill>I don't think pinning to -1 is what you want. What release are you actually trying to run?
09:24<flips>jessie
09:24<themill>So you definitely don't want to be pinning it at -1
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09:24<flips>I tried first setting Jessie specifically to 900, then 500 for unstable
09:24<danielsh>try using less conditions on the "Pin:" line
09:25<danielsh>so it'd match the 500..unstable line too
09:25<themill>You probably also want to pin unstable at a number between 0 and 100 not at 300.
09:25<themill>But really, mixing unstable and jessie is going to end in tears. You'd be best not doing this at all
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09:29<flips>seems just removing the -1 and adjusting to 50 for sid works ... yes, warning duly noted. There's just one piece of software I need to test temporarily. Want to see how much deps it will trigger. Will move to other installation if it triggers more than a couple of packages to be pulled from unstable
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09:31*danielsh wonders if 'APT::Default-Release "jessie";' should be set too
09:32<jm_>or simply test it in chroot
09:32<flips>danielsh: ah, that would be in apt.conf.d/something? :)
09:34<themill>default-release is just a crude way of pinning
09:35<jm_>and causes weird behaviour on dist-upgrade if one forgets about it ")
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09:37<flips>jm_: Good point. I didn't consider chroot, just that this armhf can't run kvm etc ... Thought maybe some container-thingie, but I have tested docker etc
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09:38<jm_>flips: maybe I misunderstood what you said but you don't need kvm for chroot
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09:41<flips>I know ... :) I need to test this on this hardware, and kvm doesn't run on armhf (afaik), but I could just test it in chroot ... didn't think of that, so thanks! :)
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09:44<flips>hehe, my typing and spelling is bad today ... I blame it on the flu/fever. (My point was that I have _not_ tried the newer container technologies.) Will use chroot :)
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10:04<zathras>Hi. How can I force application A to use JRE openjdk7 and application B to use JRE openjdk8? (I am running Jessie and have jdk8 installed from backports)
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10:07<g0dfrey>zathras: Check if you can use environments variables: try JRE_HOME or JAVA_HOME or something else
10:08<Stummi>zathras, if the applications work properly, setting JAVA_HOME for their environment should be ok
10:08<jm_>isn't that mostly obsolete these days?
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10:08<Stummi>jm_, JAVA_HOME? Not that I know of..
10:09<Stummi>JAVA_HOME should be used by everything which invokes java to find the java binary
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10:10<jm_>I remember a note about that in README files, Debian's Java FAQ says that some may respect it or have cli arguments to select a different one
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10:12<jm_>yeah /usr/share/doc/openjdk-7-jre/JAVA_HOME has a note in that fashion
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10:14<Stummi>actually I am not using debians JRE for me, since I have a lot of java versions installed parallel here in /opt/java/.../ - my /usr/local/bin/java looks this way: http://sprunge.us/ThVA, which fixes everything which is not respecting JAVA_HOME :)
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10:17<zathras>time to read up on things! thanksguys
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10:17<zathras>Stummi, your link says: thVA, not found.
10:18<Stummi>zathras, remove the ',' at the end
10:18<Stummi>http://sprunge.us/ThVA
10:18<zathras>duh. yes. sorry. ty
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10:21<zathras>jm_ I do not have a JAVA_HOME file in that directory. I do have api, jdk, jre, platform,test-amd64
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10:21<zathras>with a forest of subdirs
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10:25<jm_>maybe it's because of this openjdk-7-jre -> openjdk-7-jre-headless/
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10:28<mait>upgrade to 8.2 and I get this:
10:28<mait>Setting up systemd (215-17+deb8u2) ...
10:28<mait>Failed to try-restart systemd-logind.service: Activation of org.freedesktop.systemd1 timed out
10:28<planetmaker>the virtualbox kernel module fails to build for me for the 4.1 backported kernel: http://fpaste.org/264802/
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10:29<planetmaker>unrelated: pastebinit doesn't give me a quotable link by default, only when specifying this paste (possibly with others, but not with debian's)
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10:29<jm_>planetmaker: yeah, you'll need a newer version or find a patch if it exists
10:30<planetmaker>of virtualbox or pastebinit? :D
10:30<mait>dbus fails to configure.... is this a known 8.1->8.2 problem?
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10:30<jm_>planetmaker: vbox
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10:31<jm_>mait: someone reported exactly the same thing yesterday, I saw this but that solution is unlikely to work for you http://blog.steve.org.uk/the_jessie_8.html
10:32<planetmaker>I see. Well, I'll stick to 3.16 kernel so far then. Was only going to see whether 4.1 kernel offered me some advantage. Seems not ;)
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10:32<njumdl2014>why does "lsb_release -a " show my debian testing's codeanme is sid?
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10:32<centrx>^ cross-post
10:33<jm_>that's my solution too - I stick to 3.19.6 for now :)
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10:33<mait>jm_: yeah, in my case the `dpkg --configure -a` is not completing without errors...
10:34<jm_>mait: yeah since one of the postinst scripts is failing, is reboot an option?
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10:35<zathras>I fixex the JRE config in the startup script of logstash (the app I wanted to run on jdk8)
10:35<zathras>*fixed
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10:36<zathras>Not that it fixed my issue with it :-( I still get a datetimestamp of april 22th as the current day/time
10:36<zathras>and I still have timeouts on rabbitmq but so far no stacktraces
10:37<jm_>off for me
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10:37<mait>jm_: I don't like the idea of rebooting a systemd box with a bad systemd install.
10:38<zathras>mait, can you pastebin the output of `dpkg --configure -a` ?
10:39<zathras>have you tried an apt-get install --reinstall of the package?
10:40<zathras>have you checked docs?
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10:42<zathras>btw. My Jessie system has: 215-17+deb8u1 ---> are you migrating to sid?
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10:47<mait>zathras: seems like dbus and systemd are not talking, this after an `apt upgrade` to move to 8.2 this morning.
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10:57<zathras>mait, what is v8.2?
10:58<zathras>isn jessie stuck at 8.1
10:58<zathras>would then not be a dist-upgrade safer?
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11:03<planetmaker>zathras, my lsb_release on jessie tells me it's already 8.2 :)
11:03<zathras>ah. ok
11:04<zathras>/etc/debian_version still says 8.1
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11:05<SynrG>zathras: you're not upgraded yet, then
11:06<zathras>guess so ;-)
11:06<planetmaker>which package upgrades that?
11:07<SynrG>dpkg -S /etc/debian_version
11:07<dpkg>Package: /etc/debian_version: Status: install ok installed
11:07<SynrG>base-files: /etc/debian_version
11:07<zathras>anyone any idea why with a default config for apache logrotate I have >14 log files per logfiletype (actually over 50) ? (jessie)
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11:08<planetmaker>hm, ty :)
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11:10<bjsnider>stretch wants to upgrade over 100 packages and remove some i use, like vlc
11:11<themill>sounds likely
11:12<bjsnider>i'm trying to track downt he upgrade that caused this, but so far no luck
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11:42<trico>how do i get kde file search and index to work? on the settings it says it is running, but i cannot search for anything in dolphin and the runner
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11:43<ArtooDetoo>trico: try "balooctl disable" and "balooctl enable" in a terminal
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11:45<trico>ArtooDetoo: that printed a lot of messages about the database not being open, driver not loaded, canot create fileMapping for files
11:46<trico>baloo doesnt seem to be doing anythign and search still doesnt work
11:47<ArtooDetoo>what does balooctl status say?
11:47<trico>indexer is running indexed 0/0 files, failed to index 0 files
11:48<ArtooDetoo>well, I had a similar problem yesterday and disabling/enabling helped
11:49<trico>i dont know, i cant get this damn baloo working on debian, ubuntu, or centos
11:50<retrospectacus>don't you think "a lot of messages about the database not being open, driver not loaded, canot create fileMapping for files" might be important?
11:51<trico>retrospectacus: very. but i cant figure out what to do about them. as far as i can tell all the dependencies are here. i dont know what database it's talking about so i cant check that
11:52<retrospectacus>you could paste it all on http://paste.debian.net and see if anyone else has any ideas
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12:03<trico>seems to be a similar problem to this. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16083 im trying to figure out what package im missing
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12:08<zathras>trico, it is like: what db system is being used. Does that db exist? Can it be accessed given the credentials in the config? Does a driver exist for the language in use? Are there any hints in logs?
12:08<zathras>unless given more info chances are you remain struck
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12:10<trico>im trying to get more info, but it prints it off so fast, cant scroll back to the error or send it to a file. it looks like QSQLITE driver is missing. i installed libqt4-sql-sqlite. balooctl enable. baloo might be doing something...
12:11<zathras>so pipe it to a file like: mycommand > /tmp/myoutput.txt
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12:23<trico>i did pipe it, all that went to the file was the line about the file indexer starting, none of the stuff what what database or files are missing
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12:27<trico>it looks like its indexing now, im getting some results when i search. in my case i needed libqt4-sql-sqlite because i already have sqlite3 and qt4, but there are also libqt4-sql-sqlite2 and libqt5sql5-sqlite. someone should probably double check baloo depends on these correctly
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13:01<adrenochrome>Hi folks.
13:01<adrenochrome>Anyone have experience getting gpu drivers up and running?
13:02<adrenochrome>I'm using a Gigabyte R9 390 ATI card, and I'm on Debian 8.2 x64. The OS keeps forcing me into CPU rendering mode.
13:02<adrenochrome>And it's not letting me have my desktop span two monitors.
13:03<adrenochrome>I installed the proprietary drivers but it broke the system so badly I couldn't even get into the CLI and had to reinstall.
13:03<towo`>kernel, ddx, mesa and drm is too old for this card
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13:04<towo`>adrenochrome, you would need fglrx-driver from testing
13:04<towo`>fglrx-driver in stable is also too old
13:04<adrenochrome>How would I get the driver specifically from testing?
13:05<towo`>add testing to your sources, then apt-get update && apt-get -t testing install fglrx-driver
13:05<adrenochrome>so that would be like main contrib non-free testing?
13:05<towo`>no
13:05<adrenochrome>Or would I need to add the repo stretch instead of Jessie?
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13:07<towo`>adrenochrome, add deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-fre
13:07<towo`>adrenochrome, add deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
13:07<towo`>then the command
13:07<towo`>then mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection'
13:07<towo`>then reboot
13:07<adrenochrome>and it should be httpredir?
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13:08<towo`>adrenochrome, what you have against?
13:08<adrenochrome>or is that a copy/paste formatting oddity towo`
13:08<towo`>it's a load-balancer
13:08<adrenochrome>Ahh ok, just didn't know, was confirming so I don't do it wrongly.
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13:09<towo`>but be warned, don't do a dist-upgrade against testing
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13:11<adrenochrome>towo`, understood. So I have added the repo, now I should issue the command: mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection
13:11<towo`>adrenochrome, no, you should install the driver first
13:11<towo`>then the latter command
13:11<adrenochrome>Ok, thanks.
13:12<adrenochrome>So this: apt-get update && apt-get -t testing install fglrx-driver
13:12<towo`>yes
13:14<adrenochrome>Ok, so I've installed the driver, and it says: Manual configuration required to enable fglrx driver │
13:14<adrenochrome> │ │
13:14<adrenochrome> │ The fglrx driver is not yet configured. Please consider using │
13:14<adrenochrome> │ /usr/bin/aticonfig to create a working xorg.conf configuration. │
13:14<adrenochrome> │ │
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13:15<adrenochrome>towo`, essentially it seems to want me to do sudo aticonfig --initial
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13:16<retrospectacus>just use the "echo -e" command instead
13:16<adrenochrome>ok, thanks.
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13:18<retrospectacus>it is actually: mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/fglrx.conf
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13:19<adrenochrome>And then issue a reboot?
13:19<retrospectacus>yeah
13:19<adrenochrome>Hopefully brb.
13:20<adrenochrome>haha, thank you for the help!
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15:44<mimi_>hey :)
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15:46<mimi_>could anyone give me an advice : i have just bought a PSU larger than my CPU, do you think i can put the PSU outside the case and put a fan instead ?
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15:47<jhutchins>mimi_: Not actually Debian-related, but you could also just get a new case.
15:47<jhutchins>mimi_: The CPU is actually the chip under the big heatsink on the motherboard.
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15:50<mimi_>Sorry : *its larger than the case not the CPU
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15:52<misterhat>mimi_: as long as it's secured it doesn't matter where it is
15:53<misterhat>make sure it's not going to move around or fall down
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15:55<mimi_>Ok thank you, do you think that the ventilation will be enough with a fan(extractor) ?
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15:56<misterhat>well as long as your CPU has a fan and there's at least one case fan you'll be fine
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15:58<mimi_>Thank you misterhat ;)
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16:10<phillipsjk>how small is the case and/or PSU? Sounds sketchy to run the PSU outside the case in any event.
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16:11*phillipsjk suspects the PSU is just larger than the original one
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20:21<nrtga>can anyone give me a link to a good guide to "harden" or make debian jessie more secure
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20:29<abrotman>!HARDEN
20:29<dpkg>To secure and harden a Debian GNU/Linux system, ask me about <securing debian> and <security>. See also <security backports>, <tracker of doom>, <d:sbd>, <grsecurity>, <exec shield>.
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20:29<abrotman>dpkg: tell nrtga about securing debian
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20:30<nrtga>thnx abrotman :)
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20:40<Profash>dpkg: tell me about securing debian
20:40<Profash>dpkg: tell me about grsecurity
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20:41<abrotman>dpkg: tell Profash about selftell
20:44<nrtga>dpkg: tell ntrga about selftell
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21:24<_guest___>i have a problem with a proccess filling up my hdd i don't know what is doing it nor where it's writing. dh reports the disk usage is increesing but du -sk / | sort -n doesn't see any large file that i can remove. and there doen't seem to be a vast amount of small files being added. can anyone point me in the right dirrection?
21:24<_guest___>sorry not dh but df
21:25<_guest___>oh and running current stable new install.
21:28<paxmark9>guest ncdu is my goto commandline tool for sniffing things getting too big.
21:30<_guest___>i may have just found something. /var/log/messages /var/log/kern.log /var/log/syslog all three growing togather.
21:30<paxmark9>All sorts of indexing apps can go astray.
21:30<_guest___>can't cat them they are growing to fast to reach the end
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21:32<_guest___>found it. firmware ath Sep 9 01:31:22 dell kernel: [ 1284.406313] [<e0c5cd37>] ? ath9k_htc_ani_work+0x157/0x180 [ath9k_htc]
21:32<_guest___>pfft wireless drivers.
21:33<_guest___>so i'll go back to wired i guess
21:33<_guest___>thanks.
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