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00:15<twb>Does anybody understand what /run/rpcbind/*.xdr _do_ ?
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00:16<twb>AFAICT they're only used for rpcbind -w "warm start", which serializes rpcbind's internal state for when you restart rpcbind
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00:18<twb>Yeah they are. So if I don't care about restarting rpcbind separately from a full reboot, it doesn't matter to me AT ALL.
00:18<twb>During shutdown rpcbind will whinge that it couldn't create the files, but they're in a tmpfs anyways
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00:43<macarthur>Does anyone know how long it takes for desktop-base to finsh it's thing when doing the upgrade?
00:43<macarthur>I swear it's frozenthere By the way i'm uprading from wheezy t jessie finally today.
00:43<twb>macarthur: extremely hardware-dependent. I couldn't give you a useful estimate
00:44<macarthur>Well the rest of it seems to install fine and when I look at it in the system monitor it's acting like it's sleeping.
00:44<twb>On fast hardware with fast networking, a "just click next" install should be done in an hour from start to finish.
00:44<Celelibi>I think I just found one of the oldest bug still open: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=4073
00:44<Celelibi>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:18:01 UTC
00:44<macarthur>I have a quad core intel cpu, and most of the previous upgrades seems to me never took very long.
00:46<twb>macarthur: you can do Ctrl+Alt+F4 to look at the log
00:46<macarthur>I've done large chunk of the minimal upgrade but setting up desktop-baser (8.0.2) ... doesn't give me a progress meter.
00:46<twb>Or F3 and open a shell and look at process tree &c to see what it's actually doing
00:48<macarthur>how exactly would I do the process tree thing. According to dpkg.log
00:49<macarthur>it says half done, and that was 5min ago.
00:49<twb>do you know how to use a linux shell, in general?
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00:49<macarthur>status half-configured desktop-base:all 8.0.2
00:50<twb>it sounds like it has hung, but when I've seen that in debian-installer in the past sometimes it has just been slow
00:51<twb>Either we can piss about debugging, or you can just go get lunch, then if it hasn't changed when you come back, simply assume it has hung :-)
00:53<macarthur>what's the &c command you're talking about. And does it regularly hang like that?
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00:54<twb>&c means "et cetera"
00:54<macarthur>basic pstree with the process shows the following line.
00:54<macarthur>dpkg───desktop-base.po───sync
00:54<twb>Hum. sync should complete quickly.
00:54<twb>Did you use ext4? If not, which filesystem did you use?
00:54<macarthur>does desktop-base usually have two proceses running?
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00:55<macarthur>I have rootfs as ext4 with relatime mount option, the rest if defaults.
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00:55<macarthur>When I installed btrfs for my home directory people aid it was stable, but I didn't want to risk my rootfs.
00:56<twb>Does ps show that sync is in D state?
00:56<twb>I would probably just try killing sync, but at this point just restarting the installer is probably easiest
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00:57<macarthur>what do you mean in th D state and would I find it?
00:57<twb>Ah... you might not be able to get D state from busybox
00:57<macarthur>I already cancelled the apt-get upgrade due to me thinking it was frozen and it said I had to do dkpg--configure -a
00:57<macarthur>I have a full session running atm.
00:57<macarthur>and I did it on the root terminal on my desktop with pstree
00:57<twb>D state means it's waiting for the kernel to get back to it -- usually because it's waiting for a hard disk
00:58<twb>http://sprunge.us/UQdV <-- example
00:58<macarthur>How would I Find uot it's state. Atm the hd activity monitor isn't flashing and I basically closed all other programs except this chat window and my terminal.
00:59<twb>Don't know
01:01<jm_>should be visible as 3rd value in /proc/<PID>/stat
01:02<jm_>if ps can't show it as such
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01:02<macarthur>S+
01:02<macarthur>i think is the state according t ps aux
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01:03<twb>S means sleeping, i.e. it's working fine but not using the CPU right now
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01:04<macarthur>so wait then for about thirty minutes or so and then if it's still stuck restart it again?
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01:04<macarthur>Also prior to doin the uprade I purged the apt cache, and also remoted al but he necessary programs to make the upgrade process faster.
01:04<twb>yeah just restart the whole install IMO
01:05<macarthur>I live in the mountains, how would I do a restart o the whole thing when apt-get won't let me.
01:05<twb>Or at least go back to reformatting the filesystems and doing a clean install, rather than trying to resume the package install step
01:05<twb>IME telling d-i to continue on from the "install base packages" step doesn't work very well
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01:07<jm_>have you checked if kernel reported anything?
01:08<twb>good thinking
01:08<macarthur>well I'll try it then I guess, does debian have more than the netinst version of it. As I'm pretty sure my wifi drivers are still closed source.
01:09<twb>That should appear in syslog/auth.log as normal
01:09<twb>macarthur: I haven't done it lately but you should be able to just put those non-free drivers on a USB key or so
01:10<macarthur>I do have this in alternatives.log
01:10<macarthur>kern.log,error.log,dmesg all don't have anything new just alternatives.log and dpkg.log
01:11<macarthur>update-alternatives 2015-09-15 01:10:13: run with --install
01:11<twb>Sorry, I've stopped caring
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01:12<jm_>!firmware images
01:12<dpkg>Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>.
01:13<jm_>bleh too late
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01:33<twb>Why does systemd depend on acl, when AFAICT it just makes syscalls, not /bin/setfacl &c ?
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01:35<twb>(Mostly in systemd-logind giving full read-write access to the logged-in user, to all devices tagged uaccess by udev.)
01:35<jm_>/var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.postinst: setfacl -R -nm g:adm:rx,d:g:adm:rx /var/log/journal || true
01:35<twb>Aaaah, the postins- right
01:36<twb>So I can ignore it because I'm only logging to syslog and to /run/journal
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02:09<sergio-br2>when stretch will have libpng 16 in the repo?
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02:17<ryouma>systemd uses acls?
02:18<jm_>sergio-br2: note that topic says #debian-next is to be used for debian testing
02:20<twb>ryouma: yes. If you log into a GUI, it will give you write access to /dev/sr0, even if you're not a member of cdrom
02:20<sergio-br2>oh
02:20<sergio-br2>ok
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02:20<twb>ryouma: which was effectively a regression for me, because inmates aren't allowed to burn CDs
02:21<ryouma>twb: does this affect whether youy need to enable acls or xattrs in rsync if you are backing up root fs?
02:21<ryouma>twb: that must have been a surprise
02:21<twb>fortunately my default assumption was that systemd was going to do crazy shit like that, so I caught it before I shipped
02:22<twb>ryouma: I don't think the default jessie systemd configuration needs xattr/acl support outside of /dev and /var/log/journal
02:23<twb>The default config appears to say "use /var/log/journal as soon as it's ready" but I couldn't actually reproduce that behaviour here.
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02:55<uso>twb: can you control if systemd gives that permissions or not?
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02:56<uso>I have two systems which behaves differently, one gives these additional permissions and one not - on USB devices though, but I guess that's the same mechanism, isn't it?
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03:05<jm_>uso: you can verify by comparing ls -l and getfacl outputs for both
03:06<uso>jm_: I see the differences on the device nodes, but I haven't found out why the two systems behave differently
03:07<jm_>uso: what does the difference show?
03:07<uso>on one system the device has acls, on the other it hasn't
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03:32<lluis_>hello
03:33<lluis_>can you recommend me a tool to do a full system backup?
03:33<jm_>there are many packages for that in the repository
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03:38<twb>uso: yes -- echo '#fuckoff' >/etc/udev/rules.d/71-uaccess.rules
03:39<twb>That "masks" the version in /lib with the same name
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03:40<jm_>as in /lib/udev/rules.d/70-udev-acl.rules?
03:41<twb>no it's ^lib$/^udev$/^rules.d$/^..-uaccess.rules$'
03:42<jm_>ahh yeah the former is not used for systemd
03:43<twb>It's actioned in src/login/logind-acl.c and the rules are in src/login/70-uaccess.rules
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03:43<twb>So it probably has no effect if you bypass PAM, e.g. in dropbear
03:47<uso>twb: thanks
03:47<jm_>i think uso's position is the reverse, it should allow user to access it on both systems, right?
03:47<uso>the files are the same on both of my systems though and logind also isn't installed on both of them
03:48<twb>jm_: I think it should by default, yet
03:48<twb>*yes
03:48<uso>but it's at least a start where to look at
03:48<twb>uso: logind is part of the systemd package
03:48<twb>You are not allowed to not install it, unless you switch to sysvinit or something
03:48<uso>ah ok, than it's probably installed :)
03:48<twb>uso: what is the actual symptom you are seeing?
03:49<twb>e.g. "I open xfburn4 and it says 'cannot read /dev/sr0'"
03:49<uso>I see the additional user entry in acls on one system, but not on the other
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03:51<twb>uso: so ls -l /dev/sr0 has "rw-rw----" instead of "rw-rw----+" ?
03:51<uso>jm_: actually I would prefer the old mechanism by allowing access through membership in a group, but primarily I want to understand the differences in behavior first
03:51<twb>group membership should still work fine
03:51<twb>There's another udev rule that sets GROUP="cdrom", MODE="660" or so
03:52<uso>twb: for the usb device nodes it's that way, for sr0 the difference is the missing user:uso:rw- on one system
03:53<twb>uso: OK, that is added by systemd-logind when it decides you logged in
03:53<twb>Possibly only if you are a "seat"
03:53<twb>Try this on both: journalctl | grep New.session
03:53<twb>Or PAGER= journalctl -u systemd-logind
03:54<twb>Yes, you *must* be a seat
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03:55<twb>I don't know how it decides that, though.
03:55<twb>None of this code has any actual comments
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03:55<uso>twb: seems to be the case on both systems, gives me a "New session ..." for my user
03:55<twb>Ah you must also be the *active* seat
03:56<uso>probably that too as I'm the only user, but how do I check that?
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03:57<twb>And what is a "seat" according to systemd-logind is whatever it finds in /run/systemd/seats/*
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03:58<uso>twb: yes, both systems have a seat0 with my user
03:58<uso>so still no differences :/
03:58<jm_>class
03:58<twb>What's odd is I've blocked master-of-seat tagging but I still have a seat0
03:59<twb>try comparing loginctl
03:59<twb>That's a tool to query systemd-logind's idea of the world, over dbus
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04:01<uso>and there are at least some differences
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04:05<uso>ok, I guess I will have to look into these mechanisms a bit to understand them
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04:05<uso>twb: did you get your information from systemd documentation or from the sources?
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04:07<twb>RTFS
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04:08<uso>oh oh, was afraid of that
04:08<twb>I am also in the process of reading the entire systemd manpage set cover-to-cover, but AFAIK uaccess isn't mentioned there at all
04:08<ryouma>if i want large fonts in vt, will GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub get rid of all that fancy video nonsense and get me something reliable and large?
04:08<uso>anyway, thank you so far for the crash course, at least I know now where to start to search :)
04:08<twb>git grep says uaccess is not mentionde in any docs
04:09<twb>--> dgit clone systemd jessie && cd jessie && git grep uaccess
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04:09<twb>ryouma: "in vt" meaning in grub or in fbcon?
04:10<twb>ryouma: whether you get small text in x86 tty is governed by at least 1. whether KMS is used; and 2. whether a small font is loaded.
04:10<twb>The former is enabled if you install Xorg drivers for intel or IIRC ati, in /etc/modprobe.d.
04:10<twb>The latter is done in /etc/default/console-setup, IIRC, by setupcon.
04:10<ryouma>twb: dunno jessie no longer has 640x480 booting. i figured out how to get grub to be large enough, but it switches to tiny again for booting and for the vt.
04:11<twb>I don't use grub at all, but I know it has framebuffer support now. I don't know what happens if you enable fb in grub but not in linux
04:11<twb>GRUB_TERMINAL=console sounds like the option to tell grub on x86 *not* to load a framebuffer at all, i.e. continue using the standard 80x25 mode. This is *not* 640x480.
04:12<twb>80x25 is extremely useful if you use kvm -curses :-)
04:12<ryouma>80x25 would be great
04:12<ryouma>but i dont' want it for grub only. i want it for the linux console (i.e. c-m-f1) always.
04:12<twb>fstd: tell ryouma about modeset
04:12<twb>Erk
04:12<twb>dpkg: tell ryouma about modeset
04:13<ryouma>modesettign has to be on or emacs will not scroll properly i believe
04:13<twb>dpkg: tell ryouma about kms
04:13<Konomi>ryouma: this may help you https://paste.debian.net/hidden/5e1181a4/
04:13<Konomi>it
04:13<Konomi>'s from my /etc/default/grub
04:13<Konomi>and it should do what you want
04:13<uso>twb: that dgit is a neat tool :)
04:13<twb>ryouma: I don't know what you mean by "scroll properly".
04:13<Konomi>but you'll be picking a resolution not columns/rows
04:13<ryouma>twb: it acts as if it were a 300 baud modem
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04:13<ryouma>with modesetting off
04:14<twb>IME fbcon is slow even with modesetting on, compared to xterm.
04:14<twb>That's why emacs scrolls by half-pages by default.
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04:14<jm_>you'll probably want to completely disable KMS then
04:14<jm_>stm was great back then :)
04:15<ryouma>Konomi: yes, that is exactly what i intended to try, then i found out about hte console thing and wondered if i should try that again. if it works for you in jessie then that is great.
04:15<Konomi>it does on my system
04:15<ryouma>s/again/
04:15<Konomi>just note the nvidia bin doesn't like you doing it
04:15<Konomi>and will complain in xorg log
04:15<Konomi>but works fine for me with no issues
04:15<ryouma>twb: no, i mean if i turn off modesetting (note: before i tried firmware linux nonfree) then emacs in x is too slow
04:16<ryouma>Konomi: radeon here
04:16<Konomi>https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#gfxmode docs
04:16<twb>ryouma: in which case pass nomodeset and/or remove the xorg drivers
04:16<twb>ryouma: oops I misread you
04:16<Konomi>"Depending on your kernel, your distribution, your graphics card, and the phase of the moon, note that using this option may cause GNU/Linux to suffer from various display problems, particularly during the early part of the boot sequence."
04:16<Konomi>that line made me giggle
04:17<ryouma>i don't understand most things about framebuffer, console, booting, etc. i just want fonts that are legible. always.
04:17<jm_>I think you won't get best of both worlds without KMS, at one poitn I gave up console completely
04:17<Konomi>ryouma: it will do it for you
04:17<ryouma>and i want consistency. the phase of hte moon stuff is just bs.
04:17<Konomi>you could also try forcing the payload to text
04:17<Konomi>and see if that is huge
04:17<ryouma>i mean it is bs that we hsave to put up with inconsistency.
04:17<Konomi>that basiclaly disables any FB/VBE settings
04:18<jm_>why not pick a bigger font for tty?
04:18<ryouma>so i thought ok, maybe this console mode would get me back to a primitive thing.
04:18<twb>the developers seem to have given up on the framebuffer
04:18<twb>Unless you count the people who run wayland or the android equivalent :P
04:18<ryouma>what is gfx text vs. terminal console?
04:19<ryouma>what is vbe?
04:19<Konomi>jm_: doesn't that affect the other terminals in your gui though?
04:19<twb>video bios
04:19<Konomi>though to be honest most terminal emulators let you set it
04:19<jm_>Konomi: in X? no, console has its own fonts
04:19<Konomi>so might be a good solution
04:19<twb>jm_: personally I'm leaning towards going even further back and just turning off graphics entirely and using the serial port instead
04:20<Konomi>just attache the serial port wires to your tounge
04:20<twb>the 80x25 non-framebuffer console was always a PC-ism
04:20<jm_>twb: yeah but many modern systems lack RS232 completely (unless you want to use it over USB)
04:21<twb>jm_: meh, everything is a VM now anyways
04:21<Konomi>suddenly reminded of how messy computers are
04:21<Konomi>I need my "medication"
04:21<ryouma>i only efer use the console when there are problems with the computer. it is exactly those times when there needs to be no bs. no blinking, no fancy fonts that change size every time you do something different, no settings you ahve to do to make things legible, no beeping, no dead keys, etc. yet it does all that. so i figured i could somehow stabilize a tiny part of it at leasrt.\)
04:21<twb>Konomi: actually rather than that you could just use a braille display or an aural interface like emacspeak
04:22<Konomi>ironically that'd probably be cleaner than all the gfx implementations ever
04:22<twb>That rotary braille patent must have expired by now...
04:22<Konomi>heh
04:22<Konomi>you gotta love how they slug people with special needs with shit like that
04:22<Konomi>makes my blood boil ~
04:22<twb>Of course, the problem with that is Xorg assumes you need at least one video head even if you're blind
04:23<twb>You could probably give it the stub test driver tho
04:23<Konomi>I think the nvidia bin lets you fake a video head
04:23<Konomi>don't know about other drivers
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04:23<twb>I can just about IRC in emacspeak, but coding in it is insane
04:24<Konomi>I use nano the end
04:24<Konomi>what I would give for a edit.com like text editor on linux
04:24<shawn>nano :o
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04:24<twb>edit.com has an invalid TLS cert
04:25<twb>dNSName=www.churcheditadmin.co.uk
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04:25<shawn>twb: edit.com must be a windows command line utility
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04:25<shawn>just guessing
04:25<twb>Konomi: you know nano can do syntax highlighting, right?
04:25<twb>shawn: ohhhhh
04:26<twb>In that case you probably want ed or tecoc.
04:26<shawn>you want vim
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04:26<twb>Nobody sponsored my TECO11 debian package :-(
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04:28<Konomi>twb: ofc I do
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04:29<shawn>Konomi: what do you think of Joe? I know some people who swear by it
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04:30<shawn>but never tried it more than accidentally because I was in their environment and $EDITOR was set to /bin/joe
04:31<twb>shawn: yes, joe does/did make itself a higher priority in alternatives than any other editors :0/
04:31<uso>even higher than nano?
04:31<twb>yes
04:32<twb>$boss used to use it until I >cough< engaged in some attitude readjustment
04:32<twb>So it was on our shell servers
04:32<Konomi>shawn: didn't like it
04:32<uso>oh oh, purging nano usually is one of the first things I do after a fresh install
04:32<Konomi>though I vaugley remember it now
04:32<Konomi>I tried it once never kept it
04:32<Konomi>I wanted the interface edit.com used
04:32<twb>http://www.cyber.com.au/~twb/.nanorc
04:33<Konomi>which was alt to highlight menu arrow keys to navigate
04:33<Konomi>it's refered to as a TUI
04:33<Konomi>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_user_interface
04:34<Konomi>technically nano and others are a TUI but they're all button combos
04:34<Konomi>rather tha menu driven
04:34<Konomi>I think nano and what not are overly complex when they don't have to be
04:34<peter1138>nano is overly complex... realy
04:34<peter1138>+l
04:34<Konomi>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS_Editor
04:34<Konomi>this would be far nicer if it was a linux app
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04:35<Konomi>why aptitude uses ctrl+t for the menu instead of alt is another one where I scratch my head
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04:37<shawn>twb: my boss uses Joe too,lol
04:37<twb>peter1138: try busybox vi then
04:37<peter1138>twb, it was a question, heh
04:37<shawn>just edit files with tee
04:37<shawn>tee foo
04:38<shawn>type things
04:38<shawn>ctrl+c
04:38<twb>shawn: tee cannot edit files. You are thinking of ed.
04:38<jm_>Konomi: FTE was similar to edit.com with keys in that regard
04:38<twb>shawn: if you are going to use cat you might as well just use cc -x c directly instead of cat >x.c && cc x.c
04:38<peter1138>Konomi, alt (along with shift and ctrl) are modifiers, they're not passed to programs by terminals.
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04:39<shawn>twb: I was mostly kidding in response to people saying nano was too complicated... but it can edit files just not very tell
04:39<twb>peter1138: actually no. Alt in a terminal is the ^[ character (Ctrl+[)
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04:39<shawn>s/tell/well
04:39<peter1138>twb, terminal specific. ctrl+[ is actually escape.
04:39<twb>peter1138: yes. Now I think about it, just tapping Alt won't send the ^[
04:40<twb>I was thinking of the other way around where just tapping Esc, the client app will usually wait for a bit before processing a ^[, in case it was part of a sequence
04:42<peter1138>also i completely forgot aptitude has that user interface. i never use it.
04:42<Konomi>peter1138: it's more so alt is the common button for accessing a menu
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04:42<Konomi>line up a bunch of apps press alt and see which ones go to the menu
04:43<Konomi>I bet it'll be more than ones that use ctrl+t
04:43<twb>Hm, should all UIDs <100 be documented in debian-policy ? Because gnats isn't
04:43<Konomi>might be nice I always wondered why the first user is 1000
04:44<twb>The question I was actually trying to answer was: is it appropriate to use user 'daemon' to drop root privs, when I am too lazy to make a dedicated daemon?
04:44<twb>Konomi: see adduser.conf(5) manpage
04:44<Konomi>maybe later I am about to go out with friends for the night just waiting on the text to be picked up ;p
04:45<Konomi>and while I take my netbook in my handbag I really don't like pulling it out in social situations ;p
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04:56<shawn>you can Google the man page
04:58<shawn>http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=adduser.conf&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en
04:58<shawn>Konomi: ^
04:59<Konomi>don't like relying on web browsers and the net for man pages
04:59<Konomi>there's a way to show man pages in gui forgot how though
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05:00<shawn>I meant on your phone
05:00<Konomi>my phone is a flip phone ;p
05:00<shawn>and with this website you don't need to have the program installed to see its man page
05:00<twb>shawn: dude, manpages.debian.net
05:00<Konomi>it has a pdf with all the licenses it uses
05:01<twb>*.org
05:01<Konomi>you can read maybe four words at a time on it's screen ;p
05:01<shawn>twb that's what I posted lol
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05:01<twb>shawn: oh sorry -- I saw "google" and a long URL and assumed it was a google query
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05:02*Konomi waves
05:02<shawn>bye
05:05<Jobbe>Hmm, working on adding curl to the debian install image (initrd.gz) for my pxe installation
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05:05<Jobbe>anyone got some good resources for adding packages to the image ?
05:05<twb>Does it have to be curl?
05:05<twb>Because d-i busybox has wget
05:05<Jobbe>yes
05:06<twb>I know how regular (post-install) ramdisks are built, but not how d-i's ramdisk is built
05:06<Jobbe>I require curl for my d-i preseed/late_command script
05:07<twb>Can you run it out of /target? ;-)
05:07<twb>Or anna-install it if there's a udeb
05:07<Jobbe>I do something like this to run my initial script that configures the system
05:07<Jobbe>d-i preseed/late_command string bash <(curl -s http://pxe/scripts/initial.txt
05:07<jm_>can't you tell it to install curl with d-i pkgsel/include string curl?
05:08<twb>Jobbe: um, so why can't you just write wget -O- | bash
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05:08<Jobbe>that does the same thing ?
05:08<twb>modulo some error handling, yes
05:09<jm_>for that wget should do the trick indeed
05:09<twb>also curl speaks TFTP but wget doesn't... although I think busybox wget might
05:09<Jobbe>so wget -O- http://pxe/scripts/initial.txt | bash
05:09<Jobbe>?
05:09<twb>also at this point it is time to use the big LART... http://curlpipesh.tumblr.com/
05:09<twb>Jobbe: yes
05:10<twb>But I mean... *at least* check the bloody sha512sum
05:10<Jobbe>I'd assume wget does not store the script on the new machine right
05:11<Jobbe>awesome
05:12<twb>Depends where you wget it to
05:13<twb>During d-i, / is RAM
05:13<Jobbe>Though, I might still add curl on it :P
05:13<Jobbe>ok good
05:13<Jobbe>d-i preseed/late_command string wget -O- http://pxe/scripts/initial.txt | bash
05:13<Jobbe>replaced it to do this instead
05:13<Jobbe>that should do the trick
05:13<twb>wget: not an http or ftp url: tftp://example.net/123
05:13<twb>^ as at jessie, busybox is compiled without TFTP support :-/
05:14<Jobbe>I actually got a http server running on the pxe server which serves the preseed files, and other files too
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05:14<twb>Ohh, I remember now. I was doing it THIS way:
05:15<twb>http://sprunge.us/BhZD
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05:17<Jobbe>hmm
05:17<Jobbe>interesting
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05:23<ondra>#canonical
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05:33<twb>Does anybody know how wdctl is supposed to work?
05:33<twb>Because when I try to use it, it says "piss off, the watchdog is in use"
05:33<twb>http://sprunge.us/QCQa
05:33<twb>What is the point of it, if you can't inspect a device while it's in use?
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05:34<twb>if I stop the petting process, I can inspect it: http://sprunge.us/LEYi
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05:38<Jobbe>thanks, it appears the wget command was what i needed
05:40<wor7>hey #debian, anyone know how to download youtube videos with the terminal?
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05:41<twb>wor7: there are a bunch of little scripts for that, but I don't know which ones currently work
05:41<Jobbe>wor7: look at youtube-dl
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05:42<termit>youtube-dl
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05:48<wor7>thanks guys, worked nice,
05:53<aqui1a>Is this a support channel?
05:53<jm_>for debian stable yes
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05:57<beagleburt>When I invoke "visudo /etc/sudoers", as root, I get only the 'usage' output? I am able to read the file via "less" but not "visudo"?
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05:57<jm_>you run visudo without arguments
05:58<jm_>or if you want to use, see the man page for supported ones
05:58<jm_>to use those*
05:59<beagleburt>jm, ok t.a.
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06:59<patwotrik>Hi. I installed a ttf font, but I can't use it in console. Is there any way to mark it as monospace?
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07:15<luichi>hello how can i log in real time all files that are modified?
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07:16<Brigo>luichi, try iwatch
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07:18<luichi>Brigo, ok thanks
07:18<Brigo>luichi, np :)
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07:20<luichi>Brigo, there is some gui for it?
07:20<Brigo>luichi, i have never used it, but i doubt.
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07:22<luichi>Brigo, ok
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07:24<luichi>Brigo, the documentation says daemon mode and console mode what are the differences?
07:26<Brigo>luichi, in console mode it will get attached to te console you launch it from. Then you can read messages from it, but if you close the console you kill the program. In daemon mode it isn't attached to anything.
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07:27<luichi>Brigo, and how can i run it from daemon mode?
07:27<luichi>Brigo, here is the man http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/man1/iwatch.1.html i tried iwatch -d but it shows me all the parameters without an error
07:27<Brigo>luichi, i have never used it, i don't know.
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07:29<jm_>there are other tools that use inotify interface too
07:30<Brigo>luichi, it looks like in daemon mode you need a .xml configuration file.
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07:30<luichi>Brigo, i was searching for info and i found strace is the same thing?
07:31<jm_>they are different beasts
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07:32<luichi>Brigo, inotify?
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07:33<Brigo>luichi, inotify is what iwatch uses to monitor files.
07:33<luichi>Brigo, ok
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07:39<blabbermouth>Hello! I'm seeking an equivalent to askubuntu.com for debian/kde specific questions. Can someone recommend?
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07:40<jm_>you can ask here or in #debian-kde
07:40<blabbermouth>thx
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07:51<patwotrik>Hi. I installed a ttf font, but I can't use it in console. Is there any way to mark it as monospace?
07:51<patwotrik>(Sorry for reposting. How often is that acceptable?)
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07:52<jm_>console does not support TT fonts AFAIK
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07:54<patwotrik>jm_, That sucks
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07:55<sid_>when i click a link in another software,the browser has no repond,how should i fix it?
07:56<Brigo>sid_, what graphical environment are you using?
07:56<sid_>how should i fix it?
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07:56<sid_>cinnamon
07:57<Brigo>sid_, then ask cinnamon people. It is the graphical environment which configures that.
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07:58<sid_>ok,thx
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07:59<Brigo>sid_, np :)
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07:59<platypus>hello! Using Debian 8, when trying to install the service simple Root actions menu fails without further information. Also dolphin requests server-authentication for a website named badei.at. What can i do?
07:59<platypus>(using debian/kde)
07:59<platypus>(debian 8)
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08:26<stevenm_>hey debian made a standard user (uid 1000) on installation... i've since removed that user from groups cdrom and plugdev - yet it can still mount a cdrom using the normal 'mount /media/cdrom' command - any thoughts?
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08:46<jelly>stevenm_: why does the nonexistent user still have processes running?
08:46<jelly>oh, you just removed it from groups, I can't read
08:46<jelly>stevenm_: how does the use log in, and what does "id -a" say after they're logged in?
08:47<stevenm_>uid=1000(bob) gid=1000(bob) groups=1000(bob),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),108(netdev)
08:48<stevenm_>jelly, doesn't matter if bob logs in over console or ssh
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09:11<freechina>any one will help us chinese people to vote for network freedom?
09:11<freechina>https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/help-bring-down-great-fire-wall-china-whos-shutting-down-vpn-services-nationwide-0
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09:16<markybob>freechina, i come from a dictatorship so i understand but it's best in #debian-offtopic
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09:24<nemi>Hi, I am new on Debian, not all, but I don't know some things Could you help me, how install Gnome environment -> gtk+-3.17.9.tar.xz Now I have 3.14 Is it good or bad idea?
09:25<markybob>nemi, apt-get install gnome-session
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09:25<markybob>but since you've done that... you may have fucked things
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09:27<nemi>ok markybob, I see that have taskle tool
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09:30<nemi>ops Tasksel
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09:35<nemi>What I do? unpack gtk+-3.17.9.tar.xz and enter apt-get install gnome-session or not, can you give me link where have how to do for references...
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09:39<Salambo>Hello, since yesterday I can't do "systemctl suspend" anymore, I get this error message: "Failed to execute operation: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files" It works normal using sudo though. What happened and how can I fix it back?
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09:47<nemi>thanks for nothing for 2 sentence to instruct This is a community Linux I did not expect that we are to solve the problem
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11:17<sagir3>anyone know how to make it so my bootable debian USB is able to boot in either UEFI or BIOS mode?
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11:18<sagir3>i'm using grub2 and lvm if that helps
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11:24<Brigo>sagir3, you can't, uefi needs gpt partitioning, and bios don't support it.
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11:24<sagir3>Brigo, on google, it's pretty much 50-50. some say it does, others say it does not work.
11:25<sagir3>Brigo, https://www.debian-administration.org/users/dkg/weblog/112
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11:28<Brigo>sagir3, interesting, i will try it myself :)
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11:29<sagir3>Brigo, im actually retrying it now. i accidentally made the bios boot partition with a filesystem, and you're not supposed to
11:29<Brigo>sagir3, but it install both uefi and bios boot options and you have to choose from a menu, i guess, for the target disk.
11:29<sagir3>just the ESP is supposed to have a filesystem
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11:29<sagir3>Brigo, i'm pretty sure you're supposed to go into bios and choose either BIOS boot or UEFI boot (at least, on my motherboard it displays 2 options)
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11:30<sagir3>Crosshair V Formula Z
11:30<Brigo>sagir3, it will have two differents grubs, one in MBR and other in uefi partition, not sure how it will work.
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11:30<Brigo>sagir3, it could be the trick, yes :)
11:30<Brigo>there you will select with grub will boot, yes.
11:30<sagir3>if you think about it, it should work. it's just so very few people have done it, google doesn't have enough links on their search page
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11:31<Brigo>sagir3, yes, i say it doesn't becuase i was thinking in boot she same system disk with bios and uefi.
11:31<sagir3>the only time traditional bioses will fail to boot the system is Windows relative. linux should boot no problem even with gpt disk on bios
11:31<sagir3>anyways ill let u know in like 10 minutes. im restoring the tar backup of my system onto the flashdrive
11:31<Brigo>bios don't support gpt partitons. it don't know how to read them.
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11:33<Brigo>sagir3, the examples there are boot images, not filesystems.
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11:33<sagir3>actually, my HP Mini, which uses bios, can read GPT formatted disks lol
11:34<sagir3>i need to check if other bios based computers can read gpt disks
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11:35<hatrick>greetings everyone, if i may enquire id like some help on a module called social engineering. This is for educational purposes.
11:36<Brigo>hatrick, a module of what?
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11:36<hatrick>social engineering technique. A brief explanation on a point i am stuck at
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11:37<hatrick>My task is to create a simple piece of malware that i am to deliver to a victim. My part that i am stuck at is the creation of a simple type of malware
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11:38<hatrick>if anyone is willing to help kindly open a new page to explain id appreciate the effort
11:38<hatrick>thanks again
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11:39<ArtooDetoo>hatrick: what about :(){ :|:&};:
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11:45<Brigo>hatrick, i doubt anyone here will help you with malwere creation, even for educational purposes.
11:46<mtn>maybe there is a #domyhomework channel?
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11:57<sagir3>ArtooDetoo, i have tricked many a ubuntu noob by telling them that launches a game of ping pong in the terminal lol
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12:06<sagir3>Brigo, success. computers running BIOS *can* boot GPT drives, with some exceptions
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12:06<sagir3>i just checked it out on my old P4 Compaq DX2200, and it works
12:06<sagir3>it didn't work on my MCP6P biostar motherboard though
12:07<sagir3>it gets frozen on the bios screen
12:07<sagir3>then again, Biostar is a crappy cheap brand, so yeah
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12:08<sagir3>brb gonna reboot on my main pc and see if i can boot into bios/efi modes
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12:12<flavio>hi
12:12<flavio>man
12:12<flavio>fio
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12:15<vlads>Hi, I am new on Debian, not all, but I don't know some things Could you help me, how install Gnome environment -> gtk+-3.17.9.tar.xz Now I have 3.14. Is it good or bad idea? Or references as link on web, where have good explanation. Thanks
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12:16<somiaj>vlads: you should use the debian packages, and since gnome is such a large program it is not easy to install a verison not provided by debian. What version of debian are you running?
12:17<somiaj>vlads: it looks like you are trying to install some libaries from source code, I would avoid this as there are ltos of thigns that depend on gtk+3 that you could cause problems with by installing that libary from source
12:17<vlads>I used Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) 64-bit
12:18<somiaj>vlads: the metapackage is called 'gnome' if you install that it will pull in all of gnome, if you want to not get everything in teh gnome desktop, then use gnome-core (or gnome-desktop-core) and it will pull in only the core compoenents for the desktop but not other stuff like games, etc
12:19<vlads>yes I now have gnome on jessi
12:19<vlads>default
12:19<somiaj>vlads: you will get gome 3.14 as the version inclidng lib gtk+ 3.14, any reason you are wanting needing 3.17, or were you just trying to install something newer?
12:19<vlads>yes
12:20<vlads>do good or bad idea
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12:20<somiaj>what you want is not really supported in debian. Gnome is very large and has integrated libary requirements. I strongly encourage you to just use that version debian provides (it is not a trival task to compiloe a newer gnome or backport gnome to debian jessie)
12:20<vlads>because I don have lot experience
12:21<vlads>I do not have lot experrience!
12:21<somiaj>one would need both a knowledge of how to comile gnome and a knowledge of how the gnome packages are integrated into debian to be sucessful. I will also point out that debian developers do not backport gnome due to the size and scope of the process. I would say just stick with the gnome in jessie and don't try to get something newer
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12:23<vlads>ok you have right
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12:23<vlads>Thanks somiaj
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12:27<vlads>I arranged good jessie for now, and working very well. If do, if I wish to install gnome 3.17, I'm get into trouble
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12:28<vlads>sitting still and doing my jobs, haha ;-)
12:28<vlads>ok
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12:31<somiaj>vlads: You should just wait until strecth is released (though for a desktop when stretch feezes in about two years should be sufficent)
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12:36<vlads>ok, I am glad for desktop on jessie now, is ok..
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12:43<vlads>I just wanted to try gnome 3.17, if working good is good, but I see now that is problem for me.. Ok thanks man.. You spared me the trouble!
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13:42<akuma>so, did the update a few days ago for jessie stretch remove the use of aptitude and force usage of apt-get?
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13:43<zlatan>akuma, there is no such thing as jessie stretch
13:43<akuma>err
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13:43<akuma>debian stretch
13:44<zlatan>akuma, the channel for that question is #debian-next, but quick tip: Maybe aptitude is affected by gcc5 transition
13:45<SynrG>and in any case, yes, aptitude is affected currently by transitions, but it is solved in unstable, so in time aptitude is fine. nobody is "forcing" anything
13:45<akuma>that's possible
13:45<akuma>I see
13:45<SynrG>!tum
13:45<dpkg>«echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution.
13:45<SynrG>you probably want this ^
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13:45<SynrG>that *may* help with problems like this
13:45<SynrG>or else it might still just be a very bad time to switch to testing
13:45<zlatan>alas, there is a difference in doing apt dist-upgrade and apt upgrade
13:45<akuma>I had already switched a while back
13:46<zlatan>don't do the first one if you are not reading what is going to happen
13:46<akuma>testing vs unstable
13:46<akuma>what's the difference?
13:46<SynrG>the removal of packages that you really don't want removed
13:46<akuma>ooo I see
13:46<SynrG>dist-upgrade is a good way for an un-alert admin of a testing/unstable system to break their system
13:46<SynrG>use with caution
13:46<akuma>hmm I can live with apt-get for now
13:47<akuma>haha
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13:47<akuma>full-upgrade and upgrade are different?
13:47<SynrG>however, it *is* adviced that you periodically dist-upgrade when you're on testing
13:47<SynrG>otherwise you'll get too far behind
13:47<akuma>oo I see
13:47<SynrG>'apt upgrade' will not do removals, but it will do installs of new pkgs as neeed
13:48<zlatan>or, do dist-upgrade all the time BUT READ WHAT IT'S GONNA DO
13:48<SynrG>yes :)
13:48<akuma>I can do reading
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13:48<SynrG>and if you don't like what you read, answer "n" and bail out
13:48<akuma>cut your losses!
13:49<whtemple1959>hello room. I have 2 problems I would like to address today. 1) I am attempting to unpack a rar file using kde"s ark, although in the gui box the files which are in the rar file clearly show up ark does not seem to actually uncompress them into the destination folder
13:49<akuma>thanks zlatan and SynrG.
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13:54<zlatan>whtemple1959, maybe you are missing the nonfree rar package (or try using some other tool, unp or unar)
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13:56<whtemple1959>I did install unrar as my first attempt gave me the error that no package was installed. maybe I should try unrar from the command line
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13:59<SynrG>"gave me the error" <- the install attempt?
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14:00<SynrG>please note that the non-free unrar package requires you enable non-free in your sources.list
14:00<SynrG>!non-free
14:00<dpkg>[non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/
14:00<zlatan>unrar is nonfree package (there is unrar-free and I think it conflicts with unrar)
14:00<whtemple1959>zlatan: just searched for a command line process and the package is now unarchived. as I learn more about Linux and Debian the more I am starting to believe that I need to undersatnd the terminal commands in better detail
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14:01<zlatan>whtemple1959, if there is one thing I would need to choose in life, it would be terminal
14:01<zlatan>SynrG, we are good duo :D
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14:03<whtemple1959>zlatan: I am beginning to accept my sorry state and have begun the journey to self teach myself. of cousre search engines do help but alot of the instructions are geared to people who understan the ling and I do notice I need to be aware of the age of most posts as the info is outdated
14:04<zlatan>whtemple1959, well, even though outdated by date, most of the things still work that way (especially command lines)...and welcome :)
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14:06<whtemple1959>prroblem 2) while browsing the web using ice weasel at some point and not during every session when I right click on a link I get a black box instead of the usual options. this phenom carries over to other applications and I have no cchoice but to power down and restart the pc. any advice?
14:06<zlatan>whtemple1959, also for manual pages of (most) packages that you install in Debian, you just do man <packagename>
14:07<zlatan>whtemple1959, hm, define "black box" and why do you need to power off - does it hang the system or?
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14:10<whtemple1959>when you right click a link you get a box with options such as open in new tab, bookmark, or copy link. but this box will be a black "void" and then if I attempt to right click on the panel icon to try and close ice weasel that box too is black. and if I click onthe menu iccon to restart the pc that option box is black also. right clicck or left click all boxes are black
14:11<whtemple1959>zlatan: yes the system hans/freezes
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14:12<zlatan>whtemple1959, you should go to tty1 and see with top command what does it hang and also (as usual thing to do) check various logs
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14:21<iper>Brigo, alo
14:21<Brigo>iper, hi :)
14:21<iper>Brigo, como te va ?¿
14:22<Brigo>iper, estás en el canal equivocado, usa #debian-es
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14:32<whtemple1959>zlatan: looked in .mozilla in my home directory and in a couple of directories in the usr folder but could find no logs. and what do I do when I get tto tty1?
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14:55<zlatan>whtemple1959, the logs are stored in /var/log/ (you should look at syslog and/or xorg logs, the latest in the moment this happens)...in tty1 you type command called top and it will show you maybe the process that is hanging system (like too much CPU usage)
14:56<zlatan>and you can kill it
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15:39<luichi>hello is there anyway that when i press caps key at the keyboard is showed at the screen? because my laptop doesn't have a led in the and i always have to check if i have caps on or off
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15:47<Brigo>luichi, good question, mine either :)
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15:56<boris>i installed linux debian but i dont know how to install amd drriver on it
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15:57<boris>aloo odgovarajte ima da razbijem laptop
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15:59<luichi>mmm anyone knows??
16:00<luichi>sorry anybody knows?
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16:00<luichi>is there anyway that when i press caps key at the keyboard is showed at the screen? because my laptop doesn't have a led in the and i always have to check if i have caps on or off
16:01<luichi>im using gnome
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16:06<luichi>Brigo, i found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23273084/caps-lock-num-lock-scroll-lock-keylogger-with-window-notification-on-linux
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16:08<luichi>Brigo, better this one https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/36/lock-keys/
16:10<luichi>Brigo, im trying it and it shows notification when you press caps :)
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16:39<Brigo>thanks, luichi :)
16:40<luichi>is anyone using a note application compatible with android and debian??
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16:41<shawn>keep.Google.com
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16:55<luichi>shawn, ok thanks
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17:58<fantasma>hola
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17:59<fantasma>there are some one
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18:26<pepess>hi, i have this problem... imapd-ssl: FAMPending: timeout,,, and remove gamin and apt-get install fam apt-get install courier-imap courier-imap-ssl... restart courier... the problem remains.All email clients are left hanging at some point ... maildir accounts have many emails ... 35000 approx ... I use debian 7.8
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18:53<piper>Tea25: cut the spamming
18:54<piper>!op Tea25 spamming
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19:07<pepess>hi, i have this problem... imapd-ssl: FAMPending: timeout,,, and remove gamin and apt-get install fam apt-get install courier-imap courier-imap-ssl... restart courier... the problem remains.All email clients are left hanging at some point ... maildir accounts have many emails ... 35000 approx ... I use debian 7.8
19:07<pepess>help please
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19:17<pure>do you see fam in processes?
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19:28<pepess>pure, hi, 1 sec
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19:29<pepess>router:/etc/postfix# ps aux|grep fam
19:29<pepess>root 11294 78.1 3.1 87968 64308 ? Rs 17:17 150:05 /usr/sbin/famd -T 0
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20:15<aDebianUser>Hello, I installed the FOSS AMD drivers following the directions on the Debian wiki page. When I restarted my computer Cinnamon told me it was running in software rendering mode meaning it didn't detect my driver. I am running Debian testing though I doubt it is the root of the problem. Any ideas on how I could fix this?
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20:19<zykotick9>aDebianUser: sidenote, there is no "free" AMD driver, just Open Source - which relies on non-free firmware for 3D... just sayin'. Good luck with your actual issue.
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20:21<aDebianUser>zykotick9 true as it has proprietary microcode.
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20:23<zykotick9>aDebianUser: sorry, i was just reacting to your "FOSS AMD drivers" claim... when it lacks the F in FOSS.
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20:40<SaLeach77>Hello, sorry, reading another screen. Just testing ircII
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20:56<lostson>!ops Tea25 is spamming people privately
20:56<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: lostson complains about: Tea25 is spamming people privately
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20:57-!-Yst is "<https://y.st/>" on #esperanto #freedombox #debian-offtopic @#Replicant # #debian @#Libreboot #guardianproject @#notnotnotnotnottor @#android-os #moocows #oftc #tor #nottor
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21:00<jmcknight>add me to the list of people being spammed by Tea25
21:01-!-mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ
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21:01-!-Tea25 was kicked from #debian by themill [On the Internet nobody can hear you being subtle.]
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21:01<themill>thanks, guys
21:01<lostson>thank you
21:01<jmcknight>and thank you
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21:13<kernelcorn>quick question: do Linux file systems support inserting text at the beginning of a file in place, i.e. without needing to allocate a second file to do the insertion?
21:14<kernelcorn>it seems to me that a file could grow in place, versus needing to allocate a fresh one to hold the original contents plus the insertion, and then changing the file pointer to the new file.
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21:23<ryouma>does it work that way? if you position the file pointer and then write, what does ext2 do?
21:24<ryouma>lseek
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21:29<kernelcorn>Someone told me today that no file system supported in-place insertion like this, that it was always necessary to create a second file to copy everything into.
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22:16<DebUser0>Hi :) For some reason everytime my external HDD gets unplugged and then I try to unmount it, umount stalls and takes up ~95% CPU usage, this never use to happen, only since like a week ago
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23:48<uso>DebUser0: you first unmount the drive and then unplug it, right? or what does gets unplugged mean?
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