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00:20<shawn>loconet: what device? what driver are you currently using ?
00:20<shawn>does it work on another OS?
00:21<shawn>it might be a capability your wireless device doesn't have, or you might need to try alternate non-free drivers
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00:22<shawn>impossible to know without knowing what device it is
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00:38<loconet>the device is a Realtek RTL8188CE
00:38<loconet>it worked fine on ubuntu and trisquel
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00:38<loconet>i had the private firmware from synaptic
00:39<loconet>the package is callled "firmware-realtek"
00:39<shawn>loconet: do you have firmware-realtek?
00:39<loconet>that's the controller
00:39<loconet>yes
00:39<loconet>I do
00:40<shawn>https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-realtek
00:40<shawn>from non-free
00:40<loconet>yes
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00:52<loconet>I mean I have the firmware-realtek package already xD
00:52<shawn>yeah i am looking into it
00:53<shawn>i have a wifi dongle with the same chipset and it doesnt work either
00:53<shawn>but i didnt spend very long on it
00:53<shawn>i simply made the other device make a hotspot :P
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00:55<shawn>loconet: i wonder if its because we dont have isc-dhcp-server ?
00:55<shawn>does the device connect and not get an IP?
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01:03<shawn>nah, because it works on my desktop and i dont have that package
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01:04<jm_>that's used if you want it to act as a DHCP server
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01:05<shawn>jm_: to act as a hotspot you would have to have some form of a dhcp server... obviously it already does because the clients are getting an ip
01:08<loconet>I agree with shawn
01:09<loconet>the hotspot acts as a bridge
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01:09<loconet>the ip is given by the dchp server
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01:12<shawn>oh network-manager has basic dhcpd functionality according to archwiki
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01:38<hellslinger>does anyone know if anyone goes to debian-m68k anymore?
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01:42<jm_>try checking if there's any activity on the mailing list, I think I read some blog posts about hardware for it in the last N years (don't remember exactly when)
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02:08<hellslinger>so I installed Jessie in a box virtual machine, and I didn't give it a password, though I did give it a username, and blank password doesn't work. any ideas?
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02:10<shawn>hellslinger: sudo -i
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02:16<hellslinger>shawn, ?
02:16<hellslinger>I can't login at all, gnome boxes asked for a user, I gave it one, and no password, and no I can't login at all
02:17<jm_>!i forgot root's password
02:17<dpkg>For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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02:22<hellslinger>wow, what a disaster that was, no keyboard input after booting into init=/bin/sh
02:22<hellslinger>thanks for the help though, shawn
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02:24<hellslinger>avoid the express install from gnome 3.16... that was a waste of 30 mins
02:24<hellslinger>(within gnome boxes)
02:25<jm_>debian jessie has gnome 3.14 doesn't it?
02:25<hellslinger>I'm installing Jessie in a kvm machine under Arch :)
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02:26<hellslinger>I want to build a m68k chroot so I can modify files for an old macintosh quadra 700 (68040)
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02:27<hellslinger>no idea if it will work, but I'm trying, trying to run a debian etch install on the actual 68040 is very, very slow
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02:30<jm_>I see no reason for init=/bin/sh to not work with kvm
02:32<hellslinger>no keyboard input... I don't know what's going on
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02:48<jm_>then booting your kvm guest with installer iso shall also help, just chroot into debian and set the passwords that way
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03:47<danlii>Strange question - I have three separated private networks, with independent DNS services on all three. I have an admin machine running Debian, with interfaces on all three networks. Is there some way to make Debian use the correct DNS server depending on which network I'm trying to reach, instead of just accepting the NXDOMAIN you get from the first server in /etc/resolv.conf??
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03:49<user>anybody use parrot? cant get internet under anon surf
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06:03<nevyn>danlii: your dns is broken.
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06:04<nevyn>danlii: dns is a single service so you need to configure dns such that everyone knows about everyone else.
06:04<nevyn>you could do this with a local dns resolver that knew about the other 3 and howto direct queries.
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07:17<srs>i have a weird installer problem. i have two drives i want to software raid together, but neither show up as options in the installer's partitioner (8.1). if i drop to a busybox shell i can see them both as block devices and fdisk -l reports the correct size.
07:17<srs>any ideas?
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07:19<l4mbd4>you could do the partitioning manually
07:19<l4mbd4>are you installing jessie?
07:19<srs>yeah, 8.1
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07:20<srs>they don't show up when i select to manually partition in the installer menu. or you mean do it on the cli?
07:20<jm_>checked tty3 / 4 for any messages from installer about them?
07:20<l4mbd4>yes i mean cli
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07:21<srs>i'll check tty. been trying over a serial console but got the same result on a normal tty...
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07:28<srs>bingo. checked tty4, they apparently were part of an old mdadm array and mdadm was trying (unsuccessfull) to assemble them
07:28<srs>which hid them and the unsuccessful mdadm volume from the installer
07:29<srs>i'll remember to check tty4 next time. thanks!
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07:29<jm_>might make sense to submit a bug so that the installer at least gives some kind of info to the user
07:30<srs>ok, will do
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07:35<oct>anyone know whats going on with release.debian.org/migration, it has stopped updating for some reason.
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08:05<Marcin_PL>Hello. What should I do to share folders? I modified the restrictions in /var/lib/samba/usershares and I can now share as an user, but neither mine nor root's shares don't appear in LAN. But shared printer is visible. on my computer.
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08:05<Marcin_PL>I'm using MATE desktop on Deb8.
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08:35<panda>I have a kinesis freestyle2 keyboard, but the multimedia key (up/down) are not reconized by xev. The keys works. Couls it be a driver issue ?
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09:16<user105-01>hola!!
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09:16<user105-01>hhh
09:16<user105-01_>pa ti mi cola
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09:54<HyperBalgass>i'm balgass
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09:55<krymzon>I get persistent crashes trying to switch external 4K monitor to portrait mode in Jessie+Gnome3. gfx is Iris Pro, I also have internal 2880x1800 on
09:55<krymzon>^any ideas?
09:56<krymzon>is this perhaps a known limitation, or should I keep trying?
09:56<l4mbd4>Does your whole system just go down or what
09:57<krymzon>not whole
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09:57<krymzon>I think even X11 does not completely crash
09:57<l4mbd4>explain what happens
09:57<krymzon>but I have to switch to virtual terminal to do anything
09:57<krymzon>(ie ctrl+alt+f2, etc)
09:58<l4mbd4>you could log in as root and use journalctl to find out
09:58<krymzon>also if I try to connect a third display a similar thing happens
09:58<l4mbd4>if any system service has major problems you should see that there
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09:58<krymzon>thanks, I've only looked in the old logs (syslog, Xorg log) so far
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09:59<l4mbd4>well, journalctl is the central log point nowadays, I think
09:59<krymzon>I'll therefore have another closer look later today, at this point I was mainly wondering if it's a known issue
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09:59<krymzon>thank you, I'm still quite new to systemd
09:59<l4mbd4>not that i would know
09:59<l4mbd4>but that doesnt say much
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10:00<krymzon>especially on computers with displays
10:02<krymzon>Thank you very much, l4mbd4. I'll therefore continue experimenting later today and come back here if I find any helpful error messages in journalctl
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10:08<l4mbd4>krymzon: you're welcome. I hope you find the cause of your problem.
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10:38<philophil>best backup software for a personal laptop ? (in case one's need to get a use a new one)
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10:40<philophil>(in case one's need to use a new one, the old one been broken)
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10:41<oct>philophil: rsync?
10:42<oct>or dd depending on your definition of backup
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10:43<philophil>my definition would be : saving work, documents and configuration to add it to new debian system installed
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10:44<oct>philophil: rsync is pretty good at that
10:44<philophil>i would install debian on a new laptop and use back up files to get back my work environement, files and softwares
10:44<philophil>oct: ok
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10:45<somiaj>philophil: yea rsync is good. Note some consider a backup having the ability to get a revision of a file at any time in its history. rsync will keep files up to date, but won't recover if you need to get an older version of a file and the backup only has a newer version.
10:46<duclicsic>philophil: look at rsnapshot
10:46<duclicsic>it's just some perl wrapped around rsync to make this sort of thing easier
10:46<l4mbd4>You should consider using btrfs too, if you want to backup databases for example. Then you can make a snapshot, back up the snapshot and be fine.
10:48<krymzon>if you want something that does more of incremental backup work for you, perhaps have a look at duplicity
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10:51<philophil>rsync, rsnapshot, btrfs, duplicity
10:51<philophil>nice, thanks
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10:56<krymzon>if you want something graphical, Deja Dup is the official Gnome frontend for Duplicity, though I've never used it. And duplicity builds on top of rsync
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10:57<l4mbd4>looking at duplicity, I would say duplicity + btrfs + maybe a little scripting would make a great backup solution
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11:24<panda>what's should I do if my keyboard doesn't procude a scancode for 3 keys ? It's a driver issue ?
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11:24<duclicsic>panda: it's not a razer keyboard is it? mine has macro keys that don't send anything at all until the razer software sort of tells them to
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11:25<krymzon>perhaps check in lsusb if it is detected as one, or as more devices? guessing here
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11:27<panda>duclicsic, it's a kinesis freestyle2. "evtest" show the eventcode (eg: Event code 140 (KEY_CALC)) but when I push it .... it doesn't print the event in the as other keys .... I have this for 4 keys
11:27<duclicsic>ah, not what I was thinking then
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11:29<krymzon>so evtest sees it, but xev does not at all?
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11:30<krymzon>or evtest just lists it initially, but does not react to any pushes?
11:31<panda>duclicsic, did it generate the scan code for you ??
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11:33<panda>duclicsic, both don't show the scancode ....
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11:36<panda>Could it be a driver issue ? Is there a way to map the scancode with the eventcode ID give by evtest ?
11:37<panda>krymzon, exactly -> evtest just lists it initially, but does not react to any pushes
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11:58<krymzon>panda: I'm just looking at a photo of your keyboard, I understand this is the Fn+F11 that should be KEY_CALC, isn't it? What other keys are not working? Is the Fn working as intended for others? However, I'm afraid I won't find a solution here
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12:13<bitlan_>hello ... i have another problem with NAT on linux. Our customer have internet behind nat. He connects to vpn using f5.com client after ~10min he was disconnected from vpn (log from client side: http://pastebin.com/NRfsifiB ) I give him public ip (nat 1:1 SNAT/DNAT) but not helps.... Any ideas?
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12:28<duckcool>hello
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12:28<duckcool>i am having trouble with iceweasel
12:29<bitlan_>duckcool: ?
12:29<duckcool>it might be a plugin problem
12:29<duckcool>but
12:29<duckcool>ill explain
12:30<duckcool>Whenever i view a video my screen goes black for like 3 seconds and then it displays the content.
12:30<duckcool>Also "OpenH264 Video Codec" hasnt been installed and says it will install shortly is that part of the problem?
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12:56<rsmith>Are there any official docker images yet? from Debian, not Docker
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13:02<somiaj>rsmith: what do you mean? docker is in debian or are you talking about something else besides this package?
13:02<somiaj>,v docker
13:02<judd>Package: docker on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.4-5; wheezy: 1.4-5; jessie: 1.5-1; stretch: 1.5-1; sid: 1.5-1
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13:02<somiaj>could you be talking about docker.io? In that case
13:02<somiaj>,v docker.io
13:02<judd>Package: docker.io on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.6.2~dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.7.1~dfsg1-1; sid: 1.7.1~dfsg1-1
13:02<somiaj>looks like it is now avaialbe in jessie-backports
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13:10<lindi->I'm starting screen from a cron job. Is there a way to make it use a larger resolution than 80x25? I tried using the "height" command but it doesn't seem to have any effect: https://paste.debian.net/312353/
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13:33<rsmith>somiaj: Docker containers are based on "images", a Linux distribution, such as Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS, etc.
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13:33<rsmith>Docker distributes a "semi-official" Debian image
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13:35<somiaj>rsmith: ahh, I do not know how to check on that since it won't be a package. What is wrong with the semi-offical debian image? I assume it is a proper debian image that isn't mixing in third-party packages. If so that is offical enough provided you trust the person who made it (i.e. docker)
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13:35<somiaj>I don't see what debian's offical image would be much different (except for say the default packages/configuration you get)
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13:40<rsmith>somiaj: It's about trust: http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/docker_run_debian/
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13:47<somiaj>rsmith: yea if you don't trust the person at Docker making the images I'm not sure what to do execpt make your own or not use Docker. As for your question I'm unsure what the best place to get an answer for your question would be.
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13:49<somiaj>I don't know of any docker specific channels for debian, but this would be the network to search for one if there was one
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13:50<ok>Hello, I am having trouble with Iceweasel and I think it's a plugin problem but I am not sure. Let me explain. Whenever I play a video, my screen goes black for a couple of seconds and it plays the content. How can I fix this?
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13:53<kostaldavid8>I have question for where to find proprietary nvidia drivers for Debian 8 (supporting PRIME and Nvidia 740M)
13:53<kostaldavid8>thank you)
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13:54<somiaj>,v nvidia-kernel-dkms
13:54<judd>Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.125-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; jessie-backports/non-free: 340.76-5~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 340.76-5; sid/non-free: 340.93-1; experimental/non-free: 352.30-1
13:55<somiaj>kostaldavid8: I think the version from jessie will support the 740M (not sure what you mean by PRIME though), and there is a slightly newer version in jessie-backports.
13:55<Brigo>kostaldavid8, the default nvidia driver in jessie should support it.,
13:55<somiaj>it may be a while until the newer drivers make it into jessie-backports
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13:55<becarios>wiwiwiw
13:56<ok>Is there a serperate channel related to Iceweasel issues or am i in the right place?
13:56<kostaldavid8>If it's integrated, how can I switch between Intel and Nvidia GPUs?
13:57<kostaldavid8>and i have
13:57<becarios>Hi
13:57<kostaldavid8>broken depedencies on nvidia-kernel-dkms (I use "testing" channel)
13:58<kostaldavid8>nvidia-kernel-common cannot be installed
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13:58<somiaj>ok: I think there is a #debian-mozilla on this network, I would have to search to make sure. Are you sure it is iceweasel or could it be the nonfree flash-plugin (you didn't make it clear what protocol you were using to watch the video)
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13:58<somiaj>kostaldavid8: why did you ask for debian 8 if you are using testing?
13:59<somiaj>kostaldavid8: integrated systems like that I belive you have to use bumblebee is the name of the program. I have never used it so I'm unsure how.
13:59<kostaldavid8>sorry, I installed debian 8 and then changed channel to teting
13:59<somiaj>kostaldavid8: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
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14:00<somiaj>kostaldavid8: then if you are running testing, you should be in #debian-next and realize due to the gcc5 transition testing could have lots and lots of broken dependencies
14:01<kostaldavid8>ok, thanks. is there any way to fix broken depedencies?
14:01<rsmith>somiaj: No disrespect, but you might have the wrong perspective here.
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14:02<rsmith>somiaj: Read thorugh this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug[D[D[D[D[D=746394
14:03<rsmith>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746394
14:03<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/746394 in docker.io (open): «Please consider shipping pre-built images in Debian packages»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2014-04-29; last modified: 2014-07-30.
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14:04<kostaldavid8>ok, and one more question: is it possible to use both jessie and testing channels?
14:06<kostaldavid8>YES! I was missing "contrib"
14:07<kostaldavid8>driver seems to install now
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14:29<akuma>!tum
14:29<dpkg>«echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution.
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14:30<akuma>when doing this, should I comment out the non-security testing?
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14:33<akuma>it says unable to find package foo
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14:37<akuma>I don't think there is a 'foo' package
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15:22<Guest2161>hey guys I ditched Windows 10 and I went Debian 8 so far great
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15:23<jmlongo>Great for you!!
15:23<jmlongo>Welcome aboard!
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15:31<Guest2161>still learning I was with ubuntu but 14.04 crashed a bit
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15:34<jmlongo>Well .. You'll find it not that hard to master
15:34<jmlongo>And if you are in trouble, you have this channel to give you a hand ;)
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15:36<Guest2161>thank you
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15:41<edrz>akuma: replace 'foo' with the package you want from unstable. It's just a commonly used placeholder.
15:41<edrz>!foo
15:41<dpkg>[foo] the probably first <metasyntactic variable>, it's a placeholder for some other term. See http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/foo.html and <bar>, also read the Etymology of "Foo" (RFC3092).
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15:43<edrz>do not comment out the non-security lines.
15:43<edrz>also, see #debian-next if you are running testing or a mix of testing and unstable.
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16:03<akuma>oh lol
16:03<akuma>edrz, my bad
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16:20<Salambo>Hi, in "/etc/default/grub" I have both GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet pcie_aspm=force" and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" apparmor=1 security=apparmor" is it OK or should I have only one?
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16:30<jhutchins>For those of you practicing "Read Only Friday": https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3092.txt
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16:35<canaima>hola
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16:35<canaima>hoola
16:36<canaima>que me cuentan
16:37<canaima>what doyng
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16:39<canaima>hola que cuentan
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16:48<jhutchins>!es
16:48<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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16:57<canaima>hola
16:58<canaima>ola
16:58<canaima>hola
16:58<canaima>hola
16:58<canaima>hola
16:58<canaima>hola
16:59<canaima>hola
16:59<canaima>hola
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17:03<Marillion>canaima: you're a jerk
17:04<Marillion>dpkg: tell canaima about #debian-es
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18:05<ythier>hello
18:05<ythier>I'd like to improve a patch in a closed then _archived_ bugreport
18:06<ythier>should I unarchive it before emailing this bugreport?
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18:32<styler2go>Hello. I am currently having some problems with apt-get on my debian 7. When i use "apt-get udpate" it tells me: "You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" everytime again
18:32<styler2go>http://pastebin.com/uc5sCs4n
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19:24<brentaarnold>Yay I just got OBS working on my Debian system :D
19:24<brentaarnold>Gonna start streaming some Debian gaming soon
19:24<brentaarnold>CSGO GE/Debian 8 mayn
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20:36<avo>hey guys, I am trying to install debian on my mac 8,1 as the sole OS. The wiki has some instructions, but I believe they are relevant to dual-booting the OS. Could anyone please confirm that the installation procedure is basically the same as on any other system? (rufus to a flash drive, then insert)
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20:37<dvs>wiki?
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20:41<avo>https://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro#For_MacBook_Pro_13_.288.2C1.29 this is where i've been looking
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20:55<addikt>hi
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