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02:07<UkeofJersey>Evening, all! So I just installed 64bit Jessie (LXDE) with LVM but when I try to boot for the first time, I'm dropping into a shell because it can't find the volume group (Getting "ALERT! /dev/mapper/SERVER--vg-root does not exist."). Anyone experienced with this?
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02:08<rsmith>anybody know where I can find the official Debian kernel configs?
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02:09<jm_>rsmith: no not anyone does, but those that do can find them as /boot/config-foo
02:09<UkeofJersey>I THINK when I was messing around with LVM many, many moons ago, one howto had me kinda "logging into" my brand new installation still from the Live Boot (after installing but before trying to boot the machine into it)
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02:10<rsmith>jm_: I'm looking for a config a kernel I don't have installed
02:10<jm_>rsmith: then grab it from the .deb file
02:11<UkeofJersey>this allowed me to update/install all the LVM stuff before it would inevitably F up the boot up for not having them. Anybody know how to do this if they don't know a specific fix for my original problem?
02:12<rsmith>jm_: You're right, I wasn't thinking
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02:19<UkeofJersey>SO! I found a bug report on it (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=616689) but when I attempt the "vgchange -ay" fix everyone is talking about, I get "/bin/sh: vgchange: not found"....wonderful...
02:19<judd>Bug http://bugs.debian.org/616689 in initramfs-tools (closed): «Root-on-LVM setup fails often due to timing issues»; severity: serious; opened: 2011-03-06; last modified: 2015-04-26.
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02:20<jm_>boot with something like grml which includes lvm tools
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02:21<UkeofJersey>I'm sorry, what's grml?
02:21<jm_>there are also root mount timeout options, see man initramfs-tools
02:21<jm_>!grml
02:21<dpkg>grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net.
02:22<jm_>it's also strange that you don't have vgchange when the bug report says they were able to run it to proceed
02:23<UkeofJersey>yeah...I was wondering about that, but I don't know ANYTHING about this (initramfs) prompt
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02:23<UkeofJersey>most of the thread is speaking in a shorthand because they are all obviously familiar with it. I don't know if I'm missing something that would be VERY obvious to all of them
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02:28<UkeofJersey>some of these guys are saying that it is fixed in later versions of lvm2 and initramfs, but I don't know how to install things in the disk's installation and not the Live Boot's installation...
02:28<jm_>chroot into it
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02:28<UkeofJersey>THAT is the name! Thank you!
02:28<jm_>!tell UkeofJersey -about fixmbr
02:29<jm_>parts up to grub-install shall help
02:29<UkeofJersey>I knew what it was doing, but forgot what it was called
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02:30<UkeofJersey>much obliged, jm! Gotta go read up on those two things now (hopefully before I pass out on my keyboard)
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02:30<jm_>no worries
02:31<UkeofJersey>thank you very much and I hope you have a great night/day!
02:31<jm_>you too
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03:13<UkeofJersey>BWAHAHA! In case you wanted an update, jm_: I managed to fall assbackwards into booting using a patchwork of a couple webpages and my own shoddy memory!
03:13<UkeofJersey>thank you once again, good sir!
03:13<orion>bad
03:13<jm_>UkeofJersey: does it also work permanently now or do you need to do it by hand each time?
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03:14<UkeofJersey>tell ya in a sec
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03:14<UkeofJersey>regardless, I'm very happy to have educated myself about chroot and I consider that alone a win!
03:14<twb>OK so svn diff svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-lirc/lirc/{tags/0.9.0~pre1-1.1,trunk}/debian/
03:15<twb>...shows that in 2012 someone did ridiculous amounts of work to bring lirc from 0.9.0 to 0.9.1 but it never actually got released anywhere
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03:15<twb>Oops, that was for #d-mentors
03:15<UkeofJersey>haha, it does NOT work every time, but I'm at the point where I can try those things that those cats in that bug thread were talking about
03:15<UkeofJersey>...tomorrow, though...
03:16<UkeofJersey>it's 03:15 - Sandman's a'comin!
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03:16<UkeofJersey>thank you once again, though!
03:16<UkeofJersey>have a good night!
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03:16<ben>hey
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03:24<ben>hi
03:24<jm_>!ask
03:24<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
03:24<ben>is Internet Explorer legal on Linux?
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03:26<jm_>are you here to troll?
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03:27<twb>ben: IE is not supported here. Try iceweasel or chromium.
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03:35<ben>ok
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03:41<twb>jm_: I figure it's worth at least one response, in case it's naivete rather than trollishness
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05:42<bock>let's say I build a package from experimental (apt-get -b source PACKAGE_NAME) for my testing installation. will that package be upgraded once testing receives a newer one?
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05:45<jm_>for testing in general ask in #debian-next, but for your question - as long as the version in testing is newer and package is not held back etc. it would
05:45<bock>okay.
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05:46<bock>I have a weird problem that in kernel 4.1 (using backports) my graphics get stuttery once the computer idles for a couple of seconds...
05:46<bock>using intel graphics. I want to see if it is fixed in 4.2. One thing though. why does the experimental version have a "trunk" in the name?
05:47<jm_>!trunk kernel
05:47<dpkg>Trunk is a term from version control systems such as <cvs>, <svn> and <git>. The "trunk" can often be thought of as a developer's playground, the stability (or otherwise) of the code varies from project to project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_(software) . Debian 2.6.32-trunk-* kernel image/headers packages are obsolete and were removed from the archive (/msg judd kernel --release squeeze). See also <kernel abi>.
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05:48<bock>ah. so when I build linux-image-4.2.0-trunk-amd64 it won't be replaced, because the testing kernel package is called linux-image-amd64
05:48<bock>update-grub will always autoboot the newest kernel, right?
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05:50<twb>update-grub just writes grub.cfg; it doesn't boot anything
05:51<twb>What is made the default choice in grub.cfg depends on /etc/default/grub &c
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05:51<bock>yes. bad wording. sorry, english is not my primary language. Update-grub will create a config that puts the newest kernel first, right?
05:51<twb>I don't use grub, but IIRC it will pick the newest *debian* kernel by default.
05:51<jm_>looks like it should as log as filename includes version info and if you assume newer means kernel version info, not build TS
05:52<twb>That is, if you make your own kernel debs and dpkg -i them, they won't be the default
05:52<SynrG>really? that would be very surprising
05:52<SynrG>check that
05:52<jm_>i use 'make install' and it takes those into account too
05:53<twb>Hm, OK
05:53<SynrG>i think all it cares about is how they sort
05:53<twb>maybe I am remembering kernel.conf's symlinks
05:54<twb>GNU sort -V ftw
05:54<jm_>version_test_gt() in /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib decides sort order
05:55<jm_>(it used dpkg --compare-versions)
05:55<bock>okay, so building linux-image-4.2.0-trunk-amd64 from experimental (with apt-get -b source PACKAGE_NAME) will make update-grub put this one at the top as it sorts higher than the installed 4.1? And just updating the backports kernel will sooner or later (when the backports one hits 4.2.1) put the backports kernel on top again?
05:56<SynrG>doesn't foo-trunk-bar sort after foo-1-bar, etc.? that's problematic if -1- is actually intended to supercede -trunk-
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05:57<twb>printf %s\\n /boot/vmli* | sort -V ===> find out
05:57<SynrG>that's contrary to my expectation. to me -trunk- should only be there when a kernel is 'not ready yet', so '-1-' should supercede it
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05:58<SynrG>so there's something wrong with this naming scheme :p
05:58<twb>*supersede - it's not giving away land rights
05:59<SynrG>supercede is correct in my locale
06:00<SynrG>considering m-w says it has appeared in print since the 17th C, can we finally give up being pedantic about it? :)
06:01<bock>Is backporting a kernel from experimental a fesaible option?
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06:01<bock>For desktop use
06:01<jm_>bock: you can just as well get an upstream kernel and build that
06:01*SynrG tries to remember supersede to make twb happy
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06:02<markybob>bock, yeah, i'd build my own
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06:31<washon>allal
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06:40<der>Hi there.
06:40<der>I have some issues with debian 8 and I would like support if it is possible.
06:41<jm_>!ask
06:41<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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06:42<der>Ok
06:42<der>I'm running debian 8 on the latest Kernel through xfce4 gui
06:43<der>suddenly after a couple of minutes when I'm booting the laptop,the Desktop turns in black color and I can't set a wallpaper
06:43<der>I have to kill xfce4 to work properly.
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07:39<zhanshan>hi
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07:40<zhanshan>I got a SD-card which can't be opened anymore, nor read by any device
07:40<zhanshan>I connected it via transcend usb card reader as usual
07:40<zhanshan>neither in debian nor in osx
07:40<zhanshan>but osx gives a msg that it can't read the inserted device
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07:46<peter1138>It's probably dead then. It happens :(
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07:49<bock>zhanshan, you might want to try photorec (if you are looking for photos)
07:49<bock>maybe it is not completely dead
07:51<zhanshan>bock I'm not looking for the content, I aim for using the SD card again
07:51<zhanshan>photorec is a great tool!
07:51<bock>oh. don't use any sd card that over gave you any trouble.
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07:52<bock>it is just not worth the data loss
07:52<bock>over=ever
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08:54<swi>Hello
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08:55<swi>i 've installed qtcreator, but can't create simple c++ project, it' complains about 'no kits', but there is one in config named 'Desktop'. What i missed ?
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09:00<viccuad>swi: I have no idea, but maybe installing qtcreator-data helps, as it contains some templates
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09:04<swi>viccuad: it installed allready. it' cannot find qt on system, cause it search by qmake, but i dont want qmake and afaik it can use different compilers
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09:16<viccuad>How is this days the font rendering in Debian? anything to do after install, or does it look perfect and it justs works(tm)?
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09:16<themill>Given that's (a) entirely subjective and (b) dependent on what software you use, TIAS.
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09:19<viccuad>themill let me rephrase it: leaving aside .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf for antialiashing and hinting, do Debian fonts lack comparing to other distros because of patents, or the like?
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09:37<viccuad>I do not see it documented anywhere, is there a problem with packaging infinality?
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09:46<krpyton>bored
09:47<krpyton>msg acharles
09:47<viccuad>so, krpyton , wouldn't you know if there is any problem with fonts in debian that would make them render worse than in other distros
09:48<krpyton>i know ma backspace doesnt work on jessie , debian 8
09:48<krpyton>who else got that issue ?
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09:52<petn-randall>krpyton: Sounds like your keyboard is broken.
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10:00<krpyton>keyboard works very well.
10:00<krpyton>in other linux distros , backspace takes you to previous folder
10:00<krpyton>not the case with jessie
10:01<ThomasKeller>hello, what is the purpose of /etc/init.d/rmnologin boot script in Debian ?
10:01<krpyton>MSG MoDaX scooop
10:01<petn-randall>krpyton: Then your backspace key *does* work. You just didn't configure the hotkey.
10:02<themill>ThomasKeller: exactly what it says
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10:03<ThomasKeller>themill: the comment says : Remove /etc/nologin at boot
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10:03<ThomasKeller>but thre is no /etc/nologin on my system
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10:03<themill>probably because it was removed
10:04<krpyton>thanks thomas, would check it out
10:04<petn-randall>...
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10:06<zathras>Hi. The debian wiki about docker.io seems outdated. Atm there is a package for Sid. However quite some issues remain. I would like to install it on Jessie. Any one here with any experience on the subject?
10:07<petn-randall>,v docker.io
10:07<judd>Package: docker.io on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.6.2~dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.7.1~dfsg1-1; stretch: 1.7.1~dfsg1-1
10:07<petn-randall>zathras: It's in jessie-backports since a few days.
10:07<zathras>ah. nice. ty
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10:11<zathras>drawback is that 1.6 is quite old. But probably ok for what I need atm
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10:17<izam>hello
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10:18<izam>hai
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10:20<shibboleth>I'm getting a lot of perl: warning: Falling back to a fallback locale ("en_US.UTF-8").
10:20<shibboleth>perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
10:20<shibboleth>perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
10:21<shibboleth>How do add support for my locale?
10:21<shibboleth>without changing default shell language that is
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10:22<themill>!locales
10:22<dpkg>Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. See also <mac locales>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale
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10:24<shibboleth>booya
10:24<shibboleth>thanks
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10:37<avril14th>Hello, I can't seem to get my network config right. Any input is valuable (I don't want to reinstall ubuntu!): https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6a6449d67e8a5d8d253e
10:38<peter1138>supplicqnt?
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10:39<SynrGy>wpq?
10:39<markybob>avril14th, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line
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10:40<avril14th>peter1138:gist you mean wpq_supplicant, thqt's a gist typo
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10:40<SynrGy>avril14th: this greatly reduces our confidence we're debugging the problem correctly, when we can't be sure if what we're seeing is exactly what you're typing
10:41<peter1138>not only that, but
10:41<peter1138>!ubuntu
10:41<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
10:41<SynrGy>avril14th: it would be better to use cut-and-paste
10:41<peter1138>unless you meant you had it working in ubuntu but not debian...
10:41<SynrGy>that was my assumption
10:41<peter1138>"re" is superfluous :)
10:41<avril14th>sorry guys I type in debian and here on two keyboards with different keymaps ://
10:42<avril14th>I don't want to install ubuntu. I come from there, that's why I'm trying to get a debian up
10:42<SynrGy>avril14th: use a USB key to transfer output from one system to another
10:42<SynrGy>avril14th: then put the resulting paste online
10:42<SynrGy>better than hand-typing. you can make errors that obscure the real problem
10:43<avril14th>well, I'm struggling with my debian since it failed at installing gnome from DVD so I try toget it from the internet but I cant get the network conf right
10:43<SynrGy>avril14th: that config is very fussy wrt punctuation
10:43<themill>sure it's the config and not the firmware?
10:44<avril14th>themill: no I am not I'm sorry, just going through every doc I can can and trying to make sense of it :)
10:44<markybob>avril14th, wiki i sent you should work if your hardware is using the right driver/firmware
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10:44<avril14th>markybob:ok I'll try. installation app said it missed some realtek package that I added through a usb key so the install process could use internet. did that driverr was automatically install?
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10:45<SynrGy>avril14th: it's not the driver, but the firmware.
10:45<avril14th>ok
10:45<SynrGy>dmesg | grep -i firmware
10:45<SynrGy>if you're still seeing failures, then it wasn't successful. otherwise, i guess it's ok
10:47<markybob>avril14th, sounds like you need to apt-get install firmware-realtek
10:47<avril14th>hmm. I get Firmware Bug: ACPI: BIOS _OSI (Linux) query ignored
10:47<SynrGy>markybob: which avril14th did. allegedly
10:47<avril14th>and drm:radeon_pci_probe *ERROR" radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree
10:47<SynrGy>avril14th: unrelated
10:47<SynrGy>the first one, i mean
10:48<SynrGy>the second one relates to your graphics chipset
10:48<SynrGy>the remedy is exactly as stated. install that package (also from non-free)"
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10:48<SynrGy>but that's not related to your wifi issue either
10:48<avril14th>agreed
10:49<SynrGy>so we would like to see the exact contents of your /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf, please.
10:49<avril14th>then usb 2-1.4: r8712u: loading firmware from "rtl18712u.bin"
10:49<SynrGy>well, with authentication details obscured, of course
10:49<SynrGy>yeah, that's the one you need. seems right
10:49<avril14th>it does indeed
10:50<avril14th>ok so maybe try again with markybob link
10:50*avril14th brb
10:50<marques>is there a channel to receive help wrt debian packaging?
10:51<markybob>marques, #debian-mentors
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10:51<marques>thanks, markybob!
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10:52<avril14th>wlan0: Interface doesn't support scanning : Device or resource busy
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10:52<markybob>avril14th, not all do. are you using kali?
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10:53<avril14th>what's kali?
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10:58<avril14th>yay!
10:58<avril14th>it works!
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10:59<avril14th>thanks a lot markybob and SynrGy !
10:59<markybob>avril14th, you're welcome :)
10:59<avril14th>on to this radeon thing
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11:00<markybob>!radeon
11:00<dpkg>Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>.
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11:00<SynrGy>avril14th: "it works" how? i didn't see where we gave you the solution :/
11:01<avril14th>I rebooted...
11:01<SynrGy>ah
11:01<avril14th>I followed markybob link and instead of bringing the interface up manually I rebooted
11:01<SynrGy>so the firmware wasn't loaded yet, i guess?
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11:02<avril14th>it sure looked loaded. just bringing the interface up didn't seem to configure right
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11:03<SynrGy>avril14th: ah. or else the wifi was just powered down
11:03<orion>wee
11:03<SynrGy>should've gotten you to check the rfkill status
11:04<SynrGy>with my wireless toggled off: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
11:04<avril14th>that's cool SynrG, it all works now. Thanks a lot for your patience. I'm real happy to get closer. Now let me try that radeon stuff
11:04<SynrGy>well, i wanted to understand where we went wrong, to improve our quality of help next time.
11:04<avril14th>honestly, you' close to the top atm
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11:05<avril14th>with broad noobie questions such as mine, getting things to wok in 10 minutes is close to a world record
11:05<SynrGy>avril14th: my best guess is that wifi was simply toggled off, and that toggling it back on again (without a reboot) would've fixed it.
11:05<SynrGy>but am willing to leave that uninvestigated
11:06<SynrGy>just add 'non-free' to your /etc/apt/sources.list and install firmware-linux-nonfree
11:06<SynrGy>well, after apt-get update, of course
11:06<SynrGy>!non-free
11:06<dpkg>[non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/
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11:16<mdxzero>could somebody help me out. I working on a backup and the external harddisk is not mounted automaticly.
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11:18<jmlongo>I think you must edit /etc/fstab to do that
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11:19<jmlongo>at least if it's always plugged in ...
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11:19<mdxzero>jmlongo, oh how?
11:20<mdxzero>what I have to fill in /etc/fstab?
11:20<mtn>mdxzero, you can use the Disks tool, too. might be easier for you
11:20<mdxzero>it's an old usbdisk
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11:21<mdxzero>jmlongo, what is the name of the disks tool, were I can find it?
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11:23<mdxzero>I find this tool
11:23<mtn>mdxzero, are you using gnome?
11:23<mdxzero>yes
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11:23<mtn>mdxzero, did you find it?
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11:24<mdxzero>/dev/sdc
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11:26<mdxzero>but better tell me the name of the package because I'm not shure
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11:27<mdxzero>jmlongo, should I edit /etc/fstab with /dev/sdc?
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11:29<mtn>mdxzero, open menu, type disks. that is the program
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11:32<jmlongo>yep ... that would be far easy mdxzero
11:32<jmlongo>Disks tool will handle the wetwork for you ;)
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11:34<jmlongo>if you still want to edit the fstab file, maybe this could help http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1513
11:34<mdxzero>mtn, I try to make a backup and then I would make upgrades at the moment I having only weezy and with german layout...
11:37<mdxzero>just tell me what line I should put in....e.g. /dev/sdc/?
11:38<mdxzero>maybe /dev/sdc/ /media/usbdisk/ or?
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11:43<mdxzero>to complicated at the moment...what is the name of the diskstool I can't find it...can I start it in bash?
11:44<mtn>mdxzero, already told you the name and how to find it
11:44<mdxzero>at weezy?
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11:45<mdxzero>I can't find it
11:47<mtn>mdxzero, if you don't have disks, use this: https://wiki.debian.org/fstab
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11:54<KOJIbKA>hi there! Having trouble with oldstable wheezy. After update
11:55<centrx>!ask
11:55<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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11:56<KOJIbKA>sorry, after 'apt-get update , upgrade' laptop is missing GNOME task bar and windows could not be resized even with short-keys. See the picture yourself here http://ibin.co/2GR9VeboGt3P. Could it be 'X' damage?
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11:57<centrx>Are you still on wheezy?
11:58-!-mode/#debian [+l 764] by debhelper
11:58<KOJIbKA>centrx: yes
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11:58<centrx>What packages were updated?
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11:59<KOJIbKA>h-m-m a lot of them. It was standby without any update for almost a year. so it took about 1,5Gb updates to downloas
12:00<KOJIbKA>and the thing is I've tricked /etc/apt/sources.list a little
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12:00<centrx>KOJIbKA, okay well that explains it probably, using third-party sources or other releases of Debian
12:00<blast007>tricked?
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12:02<KOJIbKA>centrx: it was not third party. they were original debian repos, but not the ones which I've updated before crash happened
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12:04<KOJIbKA>let me show you - http://pastebin.com/w93gDTjv
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12:05<centrx>KOJIbKA, Okay, looks like you've partially upgraded to jessie then?
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12:05<centrx>jessie = current stable
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12:06<KOJIbKA>this is the way it worked OK. But I managed to change it to http://pastebin.com/eHpHGjaH
12:08<KOJIbKA>centrx: then it started to behave exactly like the screenshot displays. No taskbars, no buttons to resize, minimize or close, no chance to move window
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12:08<SynrGy>KOJIbKA: but if you already upgraded with that old one, before you fixed it, the damage is already done
12:09<KOJIbKA>Is there a chance to bring it to normal without HDD erase?
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12:09<SynrGy>you can finish the upgrade to jessie. is there some reason you cannot run jessie?
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12:10<KOJIbKA>SynrGy: laptop is quite old
12:10<SynrGy>how old?
12:10<KOJIbKA>actually that's it
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12:10<SynrGy>KOJIbKA: it depends on how many packages got upgraded already.
12:10<SynrGy>you could check your logs and see.
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12:11<KOJIbKA>it's Intel Core Duo T2450 with 2Gb RAM
12:11<SynrGy>you *might* be able to downgrade some small set of packages manually, with apt-get install package1=version1 package2=version2
12:11<SynrGy>oh, well, now. that's fine. you can run jessie on that
12:11<SynrGy>what's your graphics chipset?
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12:12<KOJIbKA>SynrGy: give me a clue how to ID it from shell...
12:12<SynrGy>i run jessie fine on my circa 2010 eeepc model 1001px with 2G ram and atom 1.6ghz
12:13<SynrGy>to determine the chipset? lspci -nn | grep -i vga
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12:15<KOJIbKA>SynrGy: it states NVIDIA Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] [10de:01d7] (rev a1)
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12:15<KOJIbKA>so what is the best way to upgrade to Jessie from this partial upgraded laptop?
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12:16<SynrGy>KOJIbKA: change 'wheezy' to 'jessie' everywhere in sources.list
12:17<SynrGy>KOJIbKA: then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'
12:17<SynrGy>that should do it
12:17<SynrGy>dpkg: wheezy->jessie
12:17<dpkg>Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/ldcj . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "wheezy" to "jessie". apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. See also <jessie sysvinit>.
12:17<SynrGy>^^ more detailed instructions
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12:17<SynrGy>the release notes inform you of important changes
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12:18<KOJIbKA>SynrGy: that's it ? just change the version name? seems very much like piece of cake. let me try it out.
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12:20<SynrGy>KOJIbKA: hopefully it all goes smoothly after that, yes. i've done several with no issue
12:20<SynrGy>issues*
12:21<KOJIbKA>SynrGy:thank you for help!
12:21<SynrGy>no problem. hope it all goes well
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13:46<AShell>hi, how can i change the screen resolution in linux terminal?
13:46<AShell>and there is no x11
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13:47<AShell>i'v tried "GRUB_GFXMODE" in /etc/default/grub but it only changed the grub resolution
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13:48<markybob>AShell, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash xvga=1024x768x24"
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13:48<markybob>AShell, for example
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13:56<AShell>markybob: i just tried that and it also didn't work
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13:58<jelly>AShell: which video card do you have? lspci -nn |grep VGA
13:59<AShell>it's a virtualbox
14:00<jelly>can you answer the question, please
14:00<jelly>if you show the pci-id, we can look up which kms driver to load if there is one
14:02<AShell>00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter [80ee:beef]
14:02<AShell>sorry i was install ssh
14:03<jelly>amusingly that ssh client will be faster than that console, too
14:03<jelly>,pciid 80ee:beef
14:03<judd>[80ee:beef] is 'VirtualBox Graphics Adapter' from 'InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=80ee:beef
14:03<jelly>huh
14:04<jelly>AShell: probably need to install vbox guest additions to get the driver
14:04<jelly>AShell: before doing that, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential
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14:10<AShell>thanks everyone
14:10<jelly>AShell: did you solve it? I'd probably just use ssh.
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14:12<AShell>ya i will just use ssh, i was just curious
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14:14<oenx>hello good sirs
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14:16<oenx>im using jessie and trying to use snx(vpn to windows). It's claiming "error while loading shared libraries: libcpc++-libc6.1-2.so.3:"
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14:16<oenx>how i'll find it at "https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages". Please!
14:16<oenx>how i'll find it?
14:18<oenx>i think the package are "ia32-libs"
14:18<oenx>is
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14:21<gomphus>wow
14:21<gomphus>a lot of talkative people around here...
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14:31<jelly>oenx: where did you get this snx from?
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14:49<oenx>jelly: hi!!
14:49<oenx>from this guy - https://supportcenter.checkpoint.com/supportcenter/portal?eventSubmit_doGoviewsolutiondetails=&solutionid=sk41808
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16:38<s3a>i messed things up with a LUKS-encrypted partition
16:39<s3a>blkid says that it's filesystem type is bcache, but i want to make it "crypt" (like it used to say) without reformatting, so that I can rescue some data and then format it clean
16:39<s3a>its*
16:39<s3a>could someone please help me?
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16:45<xgarlag>sdiy ffe tiendo
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18:05<c33s>hello, can someone point me the way to a information about which IV algorithm for disk encryption is the most secure and some information on the performance impact? (xts-plain64, cbc-essiv:sha256, cbc-plain, plain, ecb)?
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22:24<agon>hello, test
22:25<agon>ping
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22:30<agon>hello
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22:46<k130>whats up my fellow nerds
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23:26<goan>Hi there,
23:26<goan>I have some question..
23:26<goan>I need make a sync copy with rsync
23:26<goan>between fIRST and SECOND directories
23:27<goan>but I need that this copy runs only with the new changes,
23:27<goan>all time runing at background mode
23:27<goan>is there posible?
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