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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-09-30

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02:36<ryouma>where might i find a log for this channel?
02:37<ryouma>(my client's own log stopped working and somebody spoke to me last nigh)
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02:39<jm_>!irclogs
02:39<dpkg>somebody said irclog was #debian on <freenode> is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/ , #debian on <OFTC> is logged at http://irclogs.thegrebs.com/debian/
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02:56<ryouma>jm_: thanks. it was either you or twb who i missed :)
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03:00<jm_>must have been twb then
03:03<ryouma>was both
03:03<ryouma>great log site
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03:05<ryouma>jm_: following up, if i do dpkg-reconfigure -plow grub-pc, will it do the right thing and (1) ask me what to install to and install to only those drives and (2) (if it ever gets reconfigured automatically) install to that drive from now onw?
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03:10<jm_>ryouma: for 1) after a very quick look (that's all the time I have for it now) it looks like it would, 2) as long as you set the right device it should use that from now on
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03:11<ryouma>jm_: great, so perhaps my "copy system to new drive
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03:12<ryouma>" script could run that instead of grub-install
03:16<ryouma>thanks for looking
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03:20<jm_>no problem
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03:20<ryouma>i still fear grub-pc
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03:20<ryouma>but will probably try that
03:21<jm_>yeah best to try it and possibly submit a wishlist bug so user can take control over automation
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03:46<stevenm_>Hey, if you look at /etc/init.d/ssh (part of opeenssh-server) you'll see on line 26 it checks if you've passed an additional parameter to use.. but I can't seem to use this facility correctly, any ideas?
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03:46<Slumlord_>any ideas why a Canon imageclass D530 printer will not print in the debian 8.2. Printer installs as normal can find my printer. It says printing, on my the computer screen but nothing gets printed?
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03:48<stevenm_>basically I want to do something like this... service ssh restart "-o PermitRootLogin=yes" so that **this ONE time ONLY** it allows ssh in from root... then the script I run over SSH rewrites all the non-root users, secures root and restarts SSH back to =without-password anyway
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03:52<jm_>if you are using systemd it would probably explain why init script is not used
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04:06<stevenm_>jm_, well if I called /etc/init.d/ssh it would be yes? even when I do that it doesn't work
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04:13<jm_>stevenm_: no, not with systemd, see /lib/lsb/init-functions.d/40-systemd, but it also tells you this on screen "Starting ssh (via systemctl): ssh.service."
04:14<jm_>I suppose one can override it via _use_systemctl
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04:16<stevenm_>jm_, I don't suppose the systemd version of starting/restarting the service includes the ability to take the extra parameter?
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04:16<stevenm_>i'm not as familiar with systemd but I'm looking at /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service at the moment
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04:21<jm_>stevenm_: I don't think it's doable this way no
04:21<jm_>but another option might be to do this via /etc/default/ssh but that's obviously more work
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04:22<stevenm_>I don't see systemd referring to /etc/default/ssh - i'm guessing it just looks for a file in /etc/default that is named the same as the service?
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04:23<jm_>no but the /etc/init.d/ssh does
04:23<stevenm_>hmm I'm confused - surely if I deleted /etc/init.d/ssh ... using 'service restart' would still work as they is purely systemd?
04:24<jm_>ahh no, it does, check /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service
04:24<stevenm_>so the systemd side of things must have the equivalent of /etc/init.d/ssh in another language somewhere
04:24<stevenm_>oh yeah environmentfile
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04:24<jm_>systemctl show also shows it, but I wish that output was more readable (split in sections)
04:25<stevenm_>jm_ so basically... because /etc/init.d/ssh will just try to use systemd... and systemd doesn't support $2 (the extra option) - there isn't a way?
04:25<grummund>stevenm_: why not just stop the service and then directly call sshd with the options you want?
04:26<stevenm_>i must say I do like how simpler systemd looks - even though /lib/systemd/ seems to be an odd place to put config files
04:26<jm_>stevenm_: well not if you intend to do it via command line tools, but you can do it via editing the default file
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04:29<grummund>Is this anything to be concerned about (while upgrading openssh-server) ? -
04:29<grummund>insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `ssh' overwrites defaults (2 3 4 5).
04:29<grummund>insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (2 3 4 5) of script `ssh' overwrites defaults (empty).
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04:31<AShell>i cant use the network until i restart the networking service or ifdown then ifup for an interface
04:31<AShell>interfaces file http://justpaste.it/o2u4
04:32<jm_>Slumlord_: if you are using cups try checking cups logs
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04:32<jm_>AShell: are you using systemd?
04:33<AShell>what do you mean?
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04:34<jm_>do you see /run/systemd directory?
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04:34<AShell>yes
04:35<jm_>then try looking what this shows you journalctl -u networking.service
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04:38<AShell>there was this line "Deconfiguring network interfaces...done." in the output, is that it?
04:42<AShell>now what
04:44<jm_>that's all you see? no log of starting it at boot? should say Starting LSB: Raise network interfaces....
04:45<AShell>http://justpaste.it/o32g
04:47<jm_>right, it says ifup: interface eth0 already configured, so you should check what happened before that
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04:48<jm_>i.e. immediately after boot
04:49<stevenm_>jm_, you know that ssh.service file? it doesn't come with openssh-server... is it generated by something?
04:49<jm_>stevenm_: it does, dpkg -L openssh-server | grep ssh.service
04:50<stevenm_>sorry I was looking on packages.debian.org under wheezy - doh!
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05:42<willemb>I was gonna ask why there is no 'linux-malware-detect' package in Debian, but then realized that the answer is likely 'ask the author', right?
05:42<willemb>lets settle on 'is anyone here familiar with it?'
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05:47<stevenm_>is it more .. err .. normal/accurate/whatever .. now on debian 8 - to use systemctrl restart NAME than service NAME restart ?
05:47<stevenm_>due to systemd? i'm guessing systemctl is the systemd way?
05:49<binar>willemb: Anyone can create a debian package, that may be the author or just some experienced user of a program
05:49<jm_>i switched to using systemctl, but I guess it's up to each individual
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05:50<peter1138>I still use /etc/init.d/NAME restart ... old school :p
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05:50<babilen>That wouldn't work for everything
05:50<stevenm_>well i switched from running /etc/init.d/NAME restart from squeeze was that?
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06:13<petn-randall>stevenm_: service <verb> <name> is the universal way to manipulate a daemon, it'll work in sysv init, systemd, upstart, openrc ...
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06:15<peter1138>Yeah, I'd stick with service.
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06:18<stevenm_>peter1138, petn-randall : correct me I'm wrong, but I can't use 'service' to disable or enable a service... so systemctl is an all round better command?
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06:22<petn-randall>stevenm_: You'll need the init system specific commands to do that, yes. the 'service' command is useful if you want to restart services in installation scripts or something, and want to easily support all init systems.
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06:27<Guest3475>Hello everyone. I am installing Debian and I am unsure about the partitioning part. I have a 2nd hard disk and I am not entirely sure if it should be like this: #1 primary 1.0TB f ext4 /usr
06:28<Guest3475>is this how it should be? Or should it not be mounted? What about ext4?
06:28<Guest3475>primary or logical?
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06:31<jm_>Guest3475: why would you give 1T to /usr?
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06:31<jm_>ext4 is OK
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06:32<Guest3475>jm_, that's how it was on default. where should it be mounted?
06:32<jm_>Guest3475: I recommend you not create a separate /usr partition unless you have a good reason for it
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06:33<Guest3475>jm_, I see. I can create a directory manually. Should I do it? What would you call it?
06:33<Guest3475>and where should I put it
06:33<Guest3475>I mean, in which folder
06:34<jm_>Guest3475: I would recommend to create one for /home and one for the rest, or just one for everything (first case is better)
06:34<Guest3475>jm_, ok then I am mounting it on /home. Thank you
06:34<jm_>Guest3475: wait, installer can do this for you, you don't need to it by hand
06:35<Guest3475>jm_, yeah, I chose 'Mount point: /home'
06:35<jm_>right
06:35<jm_>and you don't need that much for the rest :)
06:36<Guest3475>jm_, what abour primary vs logical?
06:36<jm_>Guest3475: it doesn't really matter, there's a limit of 4 primary partitions, so if you want to create more go with extended/logical
06:36<TSPenguin>you can have a total of 4 primary partitions. If you want more, then one primary partition needs to be the extended partition
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06:39<Guest3475>jm_, now I am getting an error, though. "Two file systems are assigned the same mount point (/home): SC.... #5 and #6. Please correct this by changing mount points"
06:39<jm_>Guest3475: you can always go back and start from scratch
06:40<TSPenguin>I had that too when I fiddled around too much with partitions. Starting over works
06:40<Guest3475>jm_, well, on default my 2nd hard disk it pri/log 1.0TB FREE SPACE. nothing about ext4 etc.
06:40<jm_>Guest3475: it probably does not try to use the 2nd disk by default
06:40<Guest3475>there's also a home partition on my ssd
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06:40<jm_>yeah that explains it
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06:42<jm_>so with a SSD + disk setup I would recommend to create everything on SSD and then create additional mount point on the big disk (I use /disk) and then keep that for stuff that does not need to be fast/is big
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06:43<jm_>so as root mkdir /disk/users/foo && chown foo /disk/users/foo and as user foo, mkdir /disk/users/foo/dl && ln -s /disk/users/foo/dl ~/tmp/dl etc.
06:43<jm_>mkdir -p that is
06:43<jm_>and also chown foo:foo
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06:46<Guest3475>jm_, ok
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07:04<Guest3475>now I am trying to speed up my boot time. Does anyone know how to remove the waiting screen that shows and waits for you to choose debian gnu when debian loads?
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07:07<binar>Guest3475: see /etc/default/grub
07:07<Guest3475>binar, nice
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07:14<Guest3475>binar, i did sset 'GRUB_TIMEOUT=0' but it did not work
07:14<Guest3475>binar, what to do now?
07:14<Guest3475>binar, oh never mind i did not update the file
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08:49<platypus>Hello! I want to use apparmor for iceweasel and need help
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10:15<Mava>heh, ftp.fi.debian.org down now already for a week
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10:16<OdyX>Mava: you should use httpredir.debian.org
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10:18<Mava>OdyX: well.. the ftp.fi.debian.org is just... Very near ;-)
10:18<Mava>but a good tip!
10:18<Mava>infact very good tip!
10:18<OdyX>Mava: httpredir should redirect you to ftp.fi.debian.org when this one is online, and to any other closeby mirror when that one is down :-)
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10:47<mgv>I appear to have lost some LVM logical volumes. I've connected a drive that had LVM on LUKS, luksOpened it, vgextended my vg to include the new PV, and saw that pvs reported the PV as empty
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10:48<mgv>is there something like gpart that searches a LVM PV for LVs? lvscan did not return anything useful (and ran way too fast, so it is not scanning the drive for LVs)
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11:01<Vahvaloac>Hello everyone
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11:01<Vahvaloac>I'm having problems with installing drivers for nvidia gtx 980
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11:21<evan>:)
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11:29<at0m>Vahvaloac: what problems? we cannot read your errors from here.
11:30<at0m>dpkg: tell Vahvaloac about nvidia-dkms
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11:30<at0m>dpkg: tell Vahvaloac about nvidia dkms
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11:42<Vahvaloac>at0m: I have Jessie. using these instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
11:44<Vahvaloac>when i try optirun it says that it is not running, however I don't find a way to start it
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11:44<at0m>you start it with "optirun megaglest", for example
11:45<SynrG>which instructions? there are two sets. one for nouveau and one for nvidia non-free
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11:45<at0m>Vahvaloac: bumbleed is not running?
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11:46<Vahvaloac>[ERROR]The Bumblebee daemon has not been started yet or the socket path /var/run/bumblebee.socket was incorrect.
11:46<Vahvaloac>[ 3404.937081] [ERROR]Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running?
11:46<Vahvaloac>i used the non-free instructions
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11:47<imMute>stock install of debian jessie with no DE, the virtual consoles don't take up my whole monitor width nor height. is there a configuration option somewhere I need to set to make it take up the whole screen?
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11:47<Vahvaloac>I took it that I do not have to do the source compiling
11:47<at0m>Vahvaloac: yes, dkms is the way
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11:48<SynrG>good. i was looking at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/ and it looks like Maxwell support is incomplete
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11:50<Vahvaloac>also, I don't know if this is related but I can only use my secondary monitor. Primary is connected with displayport. Display settings show only one monitor.
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11:52<SynrG>,v xserver-xorg-video-intel
11:52<judd>Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; sid: 2:2.99.917-2; stretch: 2:2.99.917-2
11:52<SynrG>,v nvidia-driver
11:52<judd>Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; jessie-backports/non-free: 340.76-5~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 340.93-1; sid/non-free: 340.93-2; experimental/non-free: 352.30-1
11:53<SynrG>Vahvaloac: using backports of those?
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11:53<Vahvaloac>Probably not: I have no clue what those are
11:54<SynrG>i didn't check support for your card, but it is a newer model. perhaps better supported in backports.
11:54<SynrG>!backports
11:54<dpkg>A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>.
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11:54<SynrG>but i don't have specific experience with your hardware. maybe someone here with one of these (or a related card) could comment
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11:55<Vahvaloac>ok, so I should try with those
11:55<Linnak>hi, can you tell me the EXACT difference between testing and sid?
11:55<SynrG>Vahvaloac: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/80647/en-us
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11:56<SynrG>^^ that's for 340.65, which is in jessie (non-backports)
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11:56<SynrG>it only lists 8xx models
11:57<SynrG>hmm. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/81761/en-us for 340.76 doesn't list 9xx either :(
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11:58<SynrG>looks like that's not supported until 352.41
11:58<SynrG>Vahvaloac: until support catches up, you might have to disable discrete video in your BIOS and just use intel
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12:00<Vahvaloac>well that's kinda problem since im dualbooting with windows and need nvidia for that
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12:00<Vahvaloac>but thanks for help, I appreciate it very much
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12:07<SynrG>even experimental only has 352.30 ...
12:07<SynrG>oh. but http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/87650/en-us says the version in experimental *does* support 9xx
12:08<SynrG>there is, however, no backport of it for jessie.
12:08<SynrG>!ssd
12:08<dpkg>The "Drive" in Solid-state Drive (SSD) is really a misnomer. SSD storage is basically a huge block of RAM chips that functions like a hard drive. SSD drives (obviously) are extremely expensive, but offer very high data speeds that are necessary in some applications. They can also be used as large caches on huge RAID subsystems. See also <ssd limit>.
12:08<SynrG>argh
12:08<SynrG>!ssb
12:08<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
12:08<SynrG>:)
12:08<SynrG>(modify the instructions above for experimental, though)
12:09<Vahvaloac>thanks
12:10<SynrG>so there's that option (if it works ... and it's not guaranteed to). or wait until a backport does become available.
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12:11<Vahvaloac>so the deb-src goes to sources.list right?
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12:13<Vahvaloac>aptitude update
12:13<Vahvaloac>whoops
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13:09<tezt>hello there
13:09<tezt>i just test it
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13:09<tezt>if it's work
13:09<tuor>tezt, yes.
13:09<tezt>ok :)
13:10<tezt>thank you , have a great day everyone ^^
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13:57<hellyj>I'm trying to install the same distro on a MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010) / MacBookPro6,2 and, while the system installs and runs headless, I get the famous blackscreen when trying to run a window manager. Here's what I've tried so far.
13:57<hellyj>1. Change GRUB parameters to include 'nomodeset'. Didn't have any effect.
13:57<hellyj>2. Installed without window manager. This works and boots into command-line as expected.
13:57<hellyj>3. Then installed gdm3 and gnome and it goes back to the blackscreen although I can still SSH into the system.
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14:56<GuiltyAngerPenis>testing 1 .. 2 .. 3 ..
14:56<GuiltyAngerPenis>konversation works hurray!
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15:38<hellyj>I’m trying to get the window manager to work on Jessie / MacBookPro but no joy. This problem appears to be outstanding despite all the traffic about it. Any debugging suggestions, pls?
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16:06<hellyj>debhelper I’m trying to get the window manager to work on Jessie / MacBookPro but no joy. This problem appears to be outstanding despite all the traffic about it. Any debugging suggestions, pls?
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16:08<jhutchins>hellyj: Please define "the window manager".
16:08<jhutchins>hellyj: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead?
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16:10<warhead>I build custom kernel and I add CONFIG_IWLWIFI=m in my .config file, but make deb-pkg when build linux-firmware-image-4.2.2_4.2.2-generic_amd64.deb don't have iwlwifi-7260-13.ucode , I download that file manual from internet and copy on /lib/firmware and then work. My question how to add iwlwifi-7260-13.ucode in package linux-firmware-image?
16:11<jhutchins>hellyj: Try something other than grub. Prove plain X works first.
16:11<jhutchins>hellyj: Whether Ubuntu works will not tell you anything about Debian. It will prove that it can be made to work in Debian, but not necessarily how.
16:11<blast007>warhead: why not just install the firmware-iwlwifi that includes the firmware for intel wifi cards?
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16:13<blast007>warhead: note that it's in non-free, so you'll need to add add 'contrib non-free' after 'main' in your /etc/apt/sources.list and the 'apt-get update' to be able to install it
16:13<warhead>blast007, wont custom kernel with pre-instaled firmware
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16:16<jhutchins>hellyj: Have you looked at the Debian Wiki pages for MacBooks?
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16:17<hellyj>jhutchins: of course. I’ve researched this extensively; not to say I might have missed something.
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16:20<hellyj>jhutchins: How do I prove X11 works? I tried running startx but not sure what to expect.
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16:21<hellyj>jhutchins: I have a detailed post on http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=125013. Tried GRUB nomodeset and without gdm3, I get a good boot to a command-line. If I install gdm3 (w/gnome) I get blackscreen. Installing ubuntu now to test it.
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16:23<jhutchins>hellyj: Just run X. You might want to enable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace in an xorg.conf.d fragment first.
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16:24<jhutchins>hellyj: I know the wiki usually have every model EXCEPT the one you're actually on.
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16:29<myrmidongs>anyone know much about mpd? im just learning linux. following a few different guides, but when i go to actually run it, it gives me "socket: Failed to bind to 127.0.0.1:6600': Address already in use"
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16:30<myrmidongs>gives me socket errors like that whether i comment out bind_to_address or leave it as localhost or 127.0.0.1 as a lot of stuff ive googled have shown to do
16:31<blast007>myrmidongs: it's probably already running then and you're trying to launch a second instance (which is why the port is already in use)
16:32<myrmidongs>ok
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16:33<blast007>myrmidongs: are you using Debian Jessie?
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16:33<myrmidongs>well then my next question, when i go into a frontend like ncmpcpp or sonata, its not showing my library... i have the config pointing to my music directory, not messing with symlinks or anything and nothing is showing up
16:33<myrmidongs>blast007: yes, in a virtual machine right now, im just messing around learning
16:34<blast007>myrmidongs: okay, you'll probably just need to restart the mpd service then. It'll be something like 'systemctl restart mpd.service' (but you can do 'systemctl restart mpd' and hit tab to complete the rest)
16:35<blast007>run that either from a root shell or via sudo
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16:36<myrmidongs>k did that, didnt give me errors or anything
16:36<blast007>that should have at least read the new configuration file now
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16:37<blast007>mpd might have it's own log in /var/log/, but I've barely used Jessie or systemd to know how logging has changed
16:38<myrmidongs>yeah the guide had me configure everything to the home folder
16:38<myrmidongs>so theres a ~/.mpd/mpd.log, but looking at that its blank
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16:40<myrmidongs>if it helps at all this is the guide im looking at
16:40<myrmidongs>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=182574
16:40<myrmidongs>also thanks for your help
16:42<blast007>when I did mpd, I left it mostly defaults and just had it mount my NFS share containing my music to a directory within where mpd looked for music files, iirc
16:44<myrmidongs>yeah ive honestly left most things default
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16:45<myrmidongs>this guide is similar, i looked at it too
16:45<myrmidongs>http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/01/simple-guide-to-set-up-mpd-with-ncmpcpp.html
16:45<myrmidongs>but im missing something
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16:48<myrmidongs>im not even worried about actually getting sound out right now, its just not even showing the music files
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16:57<myrmidongs>blast007: ...... i solved it
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16:57<myrmidongs>so all these guides telling me to create a config in the home directory?
16:58<myrmidongs>yeah i dont know what crack they were on, but editing that conf did nothing
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16:58<myrmidongs>mpd was still looking at /etc/mpd.conf
16:58<myrmidongs>so i did all the edits on that and its fine now :/
16:58<myrmidongs>thanks for your help
16:58<hellyj>jhutchins: I thought I had dual-booted Ubuntu with debian but it doesn’t offer debian as a boot option. I have to re-install and then try X.
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17:02<myrmidongs>although now ncmpcpp isnt seeing flac files :(
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17:25<jhutchins>hellyj: You might just re-run update-grub.
17:26<jhutchins>hellyj: There have been a number of different releases where it would only include the new install on the first reboot.
17:26<jhutchins>hellyj: I think that was probably intentional.
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17:57<hellyj>jhutchins: Re-run update-grub to do what, pls? i’m re-installing Jessie to test X. So, I should just run the command ‘X’ when it is ready, right?
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18:18<Guest3554>when i shutdown via gui button in xfce i go to sign in graphic. Only way i can shutdown is via terminal 'shutdown -h now'. Can i program gui button to run script with this in it
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18:44<jhutchins>hellyj: I was suggesting that you might have had dual-boot but just need ot update grub.
18:44<hellyj>jhutchins: That’s what I thought. Too late though. How do I test X though?
18:45<jhutchins>hellyj: Run it.
18:45<jhutchins>hellyj: X
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18:46<jhutchins>hellyj: Also, I don't know if you've searched for info on your graphics chipset. (They do vary by year and model)
18:47<hellyj>jhutchins: Cannot locate an X executable. Do you have a fullpath?
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18:47<jhutchins>Hm.
18:48<jhutchins>/usr/bin/X
18:48<jhutchins>hellyj: Might not be fully installed.
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18:52<hellyj>jhutchins: Doesn’t seem to be an executable by that name. I’ll look further.
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18:57<jhutchins>hellyj: That's from xserver-xorg
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18:58<jhutchins>!xorg
18:58<dpkg>X.Org X11 is the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2 and first included in Debian 4.0 "Etch". To install, ask me about <install x>. To configure, ask me about <xorg config>. To remove, ask about <remove x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg http://x.org/ #xorg on irc.freenode.net.
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18:59<hellyj>jhutchins: Ok. Installing xserver-xorg.
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19:00<hellyj>jhutchins: Interesting. I install it and ran X and got the blackscreen.
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19:01<jhutchins>hellyj: Ok, we know it's video drivers then. Sure you didn't have a mouse?
19:01<hellyj>jhutchins: no mouse, just trackpad
19:01<jhutchins>hellyj: I would go ahead and /msg dpkg install x to make sure you got all of the steps.
19:02<jhutchins>hellyj: I mean no cursor on the black screen.
19:02<jhutchins>hellyj: You wouldn't have a desktop because running X doesn't run one.
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19:03<jhutchins>hellyj: THe other thing you want to do is lspci -nn and determine your graphics chipset including pciid. from there you can research what you need to do beyond a standard installation.
19:03<jhutchins>I'll be in-and-out for a bit, mostly out.
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19:04<hellyj>jhutchins: Ok thanks for the help. More manana.
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19:50<oscarr>Hello, I have small question: What I need to set to get effect in KMix input volume slider witch is now showing minimal level as minimum (boosts off) and maximum as maximum + boosts. I Want make it to show maximum as max microphone level but without mic boost? In real I would be verry happy to lock boost option at all in whole system. I dont need it, because I have mic with preamplifier.
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20:02<master>اسلام عليكم
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20:13<sid_>hello,how to make virtualbox minimize to tray?
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20:53<Gerowen>Is there something I could use that will capture and return button presses, specifically on a gamepad? I'm working on configurations, but the buttons are labeled A, B, X, etc., instead of using the numbers the system catches, so it's hard to translate it.
20:55<Brigo>Gerowen, how is the gamepad connected?
20:55<Brigo>is there a driver for it?
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21:00<Gerowen>Brigo: It's USB, I was using it just fine but some buttons were mis mapped in Mupen64Plus and I couldn't figure out what button had what number, but I found a package called "jstest-gtk" that did exactly what I wanted and let me set dead zones and such, thanks for getting back to me though, :-)
21:00<Brigo>Gerowen, np :)
21:00<BELU>HOLA
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22:03<ryanvade>hello everyone, can anyone help me debug some graphics issues on Debian testing PPC?
22:04<AmarokNelg2>describe the issue
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22:05<ryanvade>I'm trying to get dual monitors working on a Powermac G4. The system has 2 cards..Nvidia Geforce 2 400 and Radeon 7200
22:05<ryanvade>only the Radeon card is working at the moment. The nvidia card only displays console output during startup.
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22:06<ryanvade>I am running MATE if that matters.
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22:07<ryanvade>from dmesg: fb: switching to nouveaufb from OFfb NVDA,NVMac
22:07<ryouma>why do i get this as root? "debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: could not open /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permission denied"
22:08<Brigo>ryanvade, access list, maybe
22:09<Brigo>ryouma, , access list, maybe
22:09<Brigo>sorry ryanvade , not for you.
22:09<ryouma>Brigo: i thought those weren't used in jessie?
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22:09<Brigo>ryouma, i don't know, i think it doesn't, but check it out.
22:10<ryouma>can you remind me how?
22:10<ryouma>that is with debconf-get-selections or something
22:11<ryouma>getfacl suggests it's normal (------ or whatever)
22:12<Brigo>ryouma, that isn't normal, you need at least root write and read permissions, i think, i have never used it.
22:13<ryouma>http://sprunge.us/hRIJ
22:13<ryouma>also getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names for some reason
22:14<Brigo>ryouma, that right, at least the same as my system :)
22:14<ryanvade>I think this is my issue..https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91319
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22:15<ryouma>lsattr says -------------e-- /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat -- what does that mean?
22:15<Brigo>-------------e-- /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat
22:16<Brigo>the same for me.
22:16<ryouma>ls says -rw------- 1 root root 0 2014-12-20 /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat
22:16<ryouma>and i can cat it. so it is just debconf-get-selections that has the issue with it
22:16<Brigo>extent format (e)
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22:17<Brigo>ryouma, then it should be a bug? are you in jessie?
22:17<ryouma>yes
22:17<Brigo>weird, what was you doing?
22:17<ryouma>just checking to see what debconf had stored for grub-pc
22:18<ryouma>ah -- i figured it out. my fault. it was as user nobody.
22:19<Brigo>ryouma, aha! it was you!! :D
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22:20<ryanvade> nouveau: probe of 0000:00:10.0 failed with error -22
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22:22<ryanvade>I've also noticed that DVI does not work
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22:23<ryanvade>anyone have an idea what I can do?
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22:25<fam>heller
22:25<fam>hello
22:25<fam>linux is shitty as fuck
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22:40<shibboleth>I am running libvirtd/KVM on Jessie, VMs are using bridged vlan network interfaces. For some reason I have to sysctl -p every time I boot the host, otherwise there is no connectivity to the guests
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23:05<lnievas>hi guys, is it posible to know if lxc-dev package will be available for debian 8.2 ?
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