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#debian IRC Logs for 2015-10-01

---Logopened Thu Oct 01 00:00:09 2015
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00:09<Yst>lnievas: I don't think new packages are added in point releases, but I could be wrong. I think point releases mainly just fix security issues.
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02:40<warhead>any idea how to fix this error? https://paste.debian.net/314023/
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02:43<jm_>try to find a patch for building broadcom-sta module with the 4.2 kernel
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02:43<jm_>ahh looks like the version in sid is patched already so use that one
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02:44<jm_>!tell warhead -about ssb
02:44<jm_>looks like you can take it directly without even rebuilding it
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02:45<warhead>jm_, I will check thanks
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03:18<Guest3586>Habe ein Problem mit einer Anwendung, die nicht mehr startet...Capman - wird immer mit der gleichen Fehlermeldung beendet:...Signal Bus 7
03:18<jm_>!de
03:18<dpkg>Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
03:19<Guest3586>thanks...bye
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04:00<user>hola
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04:02<musca>hola Guest3589
04:02<Guest3589>hola
04:02<musca>!es
04:02<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
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04:21<slbtc>guys I need help I'm trying to install skype and it's saying error can not install something sound
04:23<slbtc>error cannot install libasound2 plugins
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04:31<musca>!skype amd64
04:31<dpkg>From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, installing Skype on amd64 requires you to make use of <multi-arch>. «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update && wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb && dpkg -i skype-install.deb ; apt-get -f install». See also http://wiki.debian.org/skype#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22
04:31<musca>slbtc: did you check the wiki http://wiki.debian.org/skype
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04:38<slbtc>I'm not on a 64 bit system it's 32 bit
04:38<slbtc>also I got this error libopenjpeg5 : Breaks: libopenjpeg5:i386
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04:40<zeeble>Any of you using the Pocket reading/bookmark app? How do you get it working with Iceweasel?
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05:15<PaulePanter>$ LANG=C dpkg -S /etc/ufw/applications.d/openssh-server
05:15<PaulePanter>dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/ufw/applications.d/openssh-server
05:15<PaulePanter>un openssh-server <none> <none> (no description available)
05:15<PaulePanter>Where does that file come from?
05:15<PaulePanter>On a system with the package `openssh-server` installed, openssh-server is listed as the package the file belowngs too.
05:16<PaulePanter>*belongs
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05:49<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Somebody added it by hand?
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05:52<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Is openssh-server purged? If not, it'll keep the config. (un) suggests it's purged, though.
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06:01<PaulePanter>petn-randall: I am puzzled too. I do not remember adding it by hand.
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06:11<petn-randall>PaulePanter: What does 'apt-get purge openssh-server' give you?
06:12<PaulePanter>Package 'openssh-server' is not installed, so not removed
06:13<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Maybe a restore of a backup? I wouldn't worry too much about it.
06:13<PaulePanter>petn-randall: https://paste.debian.net/314034/
06:14<PaulePanter>So it was installed. :/ But why is there no information about deinstallation and `dpkg -l` does not know about it either.
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06:14<PaulePanter>Does debootstrap install it? But this still wouldn’t explain why dpkg does not know about it.
06:14<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Full disk? Or r/w errors on the system?
06:15<PaulePanter>petn-randall: No. There is enough space.
06:16<PaulePanter>Hmm, all the files from the openssh-server package seem to be there.
06:16<jm_>try checking /var/backups/dpkg.status*
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06:18<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Do reinstall then, to get the state consistent.
06:18<SynrGy>mhm. restore of backup without restoring dpkg sounds plausible
06:18<SynrGy>either that, or filesystem corruption
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06:19<petn-randall>PaulePanter: Though I'd do some research about how you got to this system state.
06:19<SynrGy>inspection of /var/log/dpkg*, apt* might be illuminating
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06:20<SynrGy>and /var/lib/dpkg/status and backups, as jm_ suggested
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06:21<PaulePanter>I only have /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 and it’s not in there.
06:21<PaulePanter>I have no backups from before that.
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06:21<mint>nick darklca
06:21<PaulePanter>I booted a rescue system, wiped the disk and installed Debian on it using debootstrap.
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06:22<PaulePanter>Then I rebooted.
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06:26<user>hello
06:26<user>help me
06:26<musca>hello user
06:26<SynrGy>PaulePanter: "wiped the disk" was unsuccessful? so you only *think* you debootstrapped on top of a clean filesystem
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06:27<del>Hi I've got a problem. I've recently upgraded to jessie and changed my username with usermod and now when I try to login with gnome it just shows the background and never does anything.
06:27<SynrGy>del: recreate the home directory
06:27<SynrGy>it is likely your username is embedded in configurations that are in home
06:27<SynrGy>those references now no longer resolve
06:28<del>Allright lemme try that
06:28<PaulePanter>SynrGy: Good point. Let me check that again.
06:28<del>wait, how should I recreate it?
06:28<Guest3600>yeah my side as well
06:28<del>Oh I can login using the shell just fine by the way
06:29<SynrGy>del: as root, cd /home && mv user olduser && cp -a /etc/skel user && chown -R user:user user
06:29<SynrGy>something like that
06:29<SynrGy>(do sanity-check my commands. i did not test this :)
06:29<jm_>isn't mkdir user missing? :)
06:30<SynrGy>nope
06:30<SynrGy>cp -a /etc/skel user
06:30<jm_>ahh you copy skel as dir
06:30<jm_>yeah
06:30<PaulePanter>SynrGy: root@rescue ~ # ls -l /mnt/debootstrap/
06:30<PaulePanter>Shows that all directories are created right now. So the formatting was successful.
06:31<musca>Guest3600: how can we help you?
06:31<PaulePanter>mkfs.btrfs --force --data raid1 --metadata raid1 -L mysystem-root /dev/sda /dev/sdb
06:32<Guest3600>I dont need help right now ty :D
06:32<del>"invalid group: del:del" on the last command
06:32<del>I assume I should just use 1x user?
06:33<SynrGy>del: i think your user rename failed to deal with the group
06:33<del>Ah
06:33<SynrGy>fix that :)
06:33<SynrGy>that could be a more fundamental reason the login failed
06:33<del>so
06:34<del>I do chmod -g del del or something like that?
06:34<SynrGy>you could try grepping through olduser's home dir to see if olduser really *is* embedded in some configs ...
06:34<SynrGy>if it isn't, they may be salvageable
06:34<SynrGy>(if there's anything there worth saving)
06:34<del>and how would I do that?
06:34<SynrGy>del: the syntax of my command was correct. as for fixing the rename, to handle the group too, i'd have to look it up.
06:35<del>Allright
06:36<SynrGy>your usermod should've specified -g del
06:36<SynrGy>but you've already done the rename, so ...
06:36<del>so?
06:36<SynrGy>maybe manually fix the /etc/group is all that's needed?
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06:37<SynrGy>or there may be some command for it. like i said, would have to look it up
06:37<SynrGy>if it were me, i'd just manually fix it and move on
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06:38<del>So look for the oldname, change it to the new name in the file, right?
06:38<SynrGy>yep
06:38<SynrGy>and do the same for /etc/gshadow
06:39<del>Let's try that
06:40<SynrGy>as for "grepping through the olduser homedir for 'olduser'", something like cd ~olduser && grep -ir olduser .
06:40<SynrGy>oops, except ~olduser won't work :) so cd /home/olduser
06:40<del>Says "Could not update IceAuthority file /home/del/.ICEauthority"
06:41<del>and prompts me to log out
06:41<SynrGy>thing is, if you were on gnome, dconf stores stuff as a binary blob. hopefully there are no hardcoded olduser refs in that, but you never know
06:41<SynrGy>are you doing that logged in as 'del'?
06:41<del>I tried logging in as del, yeah
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06:42<SynrGy>probably don't want to perform open-heart surgery on yourself like that :)
06:42<del>hm?
06:42<SynrGy>it has ... obvious problems
06:42<del>oh I see what you ment
06:42<del>No I didn't use the commands you told me while logged in as del
06:43<SynrGy>no, but if you are sudo'd or su'd from del, you are logged in and change stuff from underneath of the 'del' login
06:43<del>No I wasn't su'd from del
06:43<SynrGy>k. what issued that message, then? I don't understand
06:43<del>Trying to log in to del after doing the stuff you told me
06:44<SynrGy>did you start with a clean 'del' again?
06:44<del>Dunno what that means but I restarted
06:44<SynrGy>did you chown -R del:del /home/del before logging in?
06:44<del>lemme check
06:44<SynrGy>that part failed. that's why we went back and fixed the group ...
06:45<SynrGy>without it, it is still owned by root
06:45<del>k, did that
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06:46<del>now it should work right?
06:46<SynrGy>should work now, yes
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06:47<SynrGy>and if there was anything precious saved in /home/olduser, you should be able to move it back (just make sure none of it references olduser)
06:48<SynrGy>e.g. verify using grep that any old dotfiles do not contain stuff like /home/user/blahblah
06:48<PaulePanter>Is there a channel for debootstrap?
06:48<SynrGy>i doubt it
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06:48<del>mk
06:48<del>Well there's just one problem
06:48<del>it doesn't work
06:48<SynrGy>PaulePanter: it's maintained by debian-boot, so #debian-boot
06:49<del>Still puts me on the debian background with nothing happening
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06:50<SynrGy>del: i would verify ownership of everything in /home/del is now truly del:del. ls -laR /home/del
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06:51<SynrGy>upon first login, gnome should recreate all files in /home/del that it needs. so far as i know, it doesn't need files in any other dirs that are user-specific. so i can't imagine what else it could be
06:51<PaulePanter>SynrGy: Thank you!
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06:57<del>Yes everything in /home/del is owned by del
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06:59<del>still doesn't work tho
06:59<SynrGy>other places that might be relevant /tmp/X*, /var/cache/gdm/ ... don't know ...
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07:01<del>I just tried logging in with LXDE and it worked.
07:01<del>Weird.
07:02<SynrGy>del: usermod itself says "You must make certain that the named user is not executing any processes when this command is being executed if the user's numerical user ID, the user's name, or the user's home directory is being changed. usermod checks this on Linux, but only check if the user is logged in according to utmp on other architectures."
07:02<SynrGy>i wonder if you missed something here.
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07:02<SynrGy>i don't know what usermod does on Linux if it discovers there are processes running as olduser
07:02<del>It tells you
07:02<SynrGy>does it prevent usermod from running?
07:02<del>and aborts
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07:02<del>yeah
07:03<SynrGy>so, i could see how, if gnome still had some running process that knew about olduser, it might become confused ...
07:03<SynrGy>if usermod guaranteed that wasn't the case, there might be some non-user-owned process that cares
07:03<SynrGy>what about after a fresh reboot?
07:04<del>I did reboot
07:04<SynrGy>i'm at a loss as to explain the issue. the next step would be to examine any logs (or turn on some debugging) that result from a failed login to see where it's going wrong
07:04<SynrGy>but i'm afraid i haven't the time to thoroughly investigate that avenue
07:04<hmh_work>Anyone around with Broadwell i5/i7 or Skylake Intel processors around that would be willing to help gather data to help solve a critical bug ?
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07:05<del>hm allright
07:05<SynrGy>del: you could try creating a new user and see if the new user also cannot login ...
07:05<del>let's try that
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07:06<SynrGy>del: but this will have to be it for my involvement. gotta work. good luck!
07:06<jm_>you could also check session log for clues
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07:07<del>yeah can't login on the new user using gnome either
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07:07<del>same thing
07:07<del>just the background
07:09<SynrGy>ok. so i suspect a non-user-related failure
07:09<SynrGy>what debian release are you on?
07:10<del>8.2
07:10<del>I can login with LXDE on the new user so it seems to be something with gnome then
07:10*SynrGy punts the rest of the investigation back to the channel
07:10<SynrGy>i'm out :)
07:10<del>cya
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07:32<piper>!ops Lunaa spamming people in private msg
07:32<dpkg>Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: piper complains about: Lunaa spamming people in private msg
07:33-!-mode/#debian [+o jm_] by ChanServ
07:34-!-Lunaa was kicked from #debian by jm_ [I don't like you or something]
07:35<@jm_>looks like they change the host, will ban the nick if it continues that way
07:35-!-mode/#debian [-o jm_] by jm_
07:35<piper>thanks jm_
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08:20<taras>hi, is there some relatively safe way to install newer version of DE (cinnamon or gnome3 to be specific) on jessie? it's the only think i dislike about stable :/
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08:32<abrotman>judd: versions cinnamon
08:32<judd>Package: cinnamon on amd64 -- jessie: 2.2.16-5; sid: 2.6.13-1; stretch: 2.6.13-1
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08:32<abrotman>taras: not unless someone creates a backport
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09:03<planetmaker>on jessie, how can I convince it to use ocular by default to open a document instead of evince?
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09:10<jmlongo>I guess that depends on what desktop environment you are using
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09:15<abrotman>planetmaker: same rendering library, does it really matter?
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09:15<abrotman>planetmaker: and open from where?
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09:44<Plankan>What happend with filezilla? Can't install it from my repos anymore (at least not from testing)
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09:47<abrotman>judd: versions filezilla
09:47<judd>Package: filezilla on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.3.3-1; wheezy: 3.5.3-2; wheezy-backports: 3.9.0.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.9.0.5-1; sid: 3.12.0.2-1
09:47<abrotman>planetmaker: that's how transitions go..
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10:00<john>this mirror doesnot have full set of package folders yet apt is redirected to this mirror
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10:00<john>http://mirror.dhakacom.com/debian/pool/main/
10:00<john>i use HTTPREDIR
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10:10<mohab>hello guys .. how can i install all kali linux tools on debian ??
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10:16<jmlongo>you could check if they are already on Debian repositories...
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10:17<jmlongo>and then apt-get them ;)
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10:22<Plankan>Sorry john, for some reason my laptop-client didn't gave me your output or anyone elses, but when i checked my workstation i saw your answer. Thx, just gonna figure out how to use that :)
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11:03<VeltasV>test
11:03<user___>any #!++ users here?
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11:17<dario`>what is "#!++"?
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11:18<dario`>(maybe anyone else knows, now that user___ is gone already)
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11:20<blast007>dario`: crunchbangplusplus (a continuation of crunchbang)
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11:24<dario`>ah, thanks :-)
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12:41<Guest3639>what
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12:50<n3utralup>Hello!
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13:09<centrx>!ask
13:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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13:34<darklca>pessoal, alguem sabe me dizer se na versão 8.2 a mais de 1 dvd
13:34<darklca>se há
13:34<darklca>onde consigo
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13:36<tiagorocha>darklca: nesse canal se fala inglês, entra no #debian-br
13:37<darklca>tiago muito obg
13:37<darklca>kk
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13:43<danlii>I have a Fujitsu Lifebook S760 which I installed Debian 8.2 on. First i tried Mate, and then i broke something and reinstalled it and chose Cinnamon instead, but I have the same problem in both WMs - it seems that the computer spontaneously shifts focus between windows all the time, and refuses to let me choose focus. If I run xev and just let it sit, the terminal starts scrolling "FocusOut event" and "FocusIn event" every 2 seconds without me touching
13:44<danlii>I have never seen anything like this. It was like this from the beginning, in a freshly installed system, so I have made no settings what so ever. Any ideas? :)
13:45<VeltasV>Possibly bad touchpad configuration
13:47<danlii>Hmm...
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14:54<fr0zen>Hello. I'm trying to install AMD gpu drivers. but it ask me to install kernel headers for 3.7 release. "uname -r " print "3.16.0-4-amd64" but repository has only 4.1.0-2-amd64. what I must to do? Debian 8.2 clean install with Cinnamon.
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14:55<anonymous>hola que tal todos
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15:34<debuser>hello, i need to load a custom EDID monitor file at boot, i managed to create the edid but debian sys "failed to load file"... maybe the kernel can't see the path? i'd need to know how to add the path somewhere so the kernel can see and load the file
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15:38<Brigo>debuser, what graphic card?
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15:40<Brigo>debuser, i am reading you can get it in xorg.conf with a line like: Option "CustomEDID" "DVI-0:/etc/X11/edid.bin"
15:41<Brigo>in Device section
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15:43<debuser>hm ok so maybe an xorg.confg, but can i load it at boot? it would be better so the edid is also present at non-x environment (command line) it's an nvidia quadro nvs 295
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15:46<debuser>i found this in the arch wiki which may not apply to debian: kernel option "drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/your_edid.bin" - but the file fails to load, path is /usr/lib/firmware/edid which i had to create
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15:51<debuser>maybe i have to create a new initrd?
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16:08<Om1d>Hey there. Im pretty new to bug reporting in debian, it justed worked for all those years :) A few days ago, I upgraded my kernel to a newer version on oldstable-proposed-updates and I can't start a desktop manager any more. When starting to prepare a bug report with "reportbug", it told me "Your version of ... is newer than that in Debian! Do you still want to file a report?". Because its from proposed-updates I suppose. Should I still report it or ju
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16:17<BlackDragon42>Hello.
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19:54<closingin>hi everyone
19:54<closingin>after tdma
19:55<closingin>after two days im here. Did anyone manage toi get debian work with Windows 10 ?
19:56<Hydroxide>closingin: I don't understand the question, but they can certainly coexist on the same machine
19:56<closingin>I have a uefi motherboard, gpt scheme
19:56<Hydroxide>closingin: Debian should be fine with that. You may have to disable secure boot though.
19:57<closingin>but i cant get grub starting. always Windows boot manager
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19:57<closingin>I did
19:57<Hydroxide>ok. how did you install debian, and which version of debian?
19:58<closingin>Downloaded debian 8 gnome amd64 live, iso on USB stick
19:58<Hydroxide>(by the way, windows boot manager can be told to boot debian... but grub should be usable)
19:58<closingin>installed it normally then
19:58<Hydroxide>and then you did the install from the live image?
19:58<Hydroxide>right
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19:59<Hydroxide>closingin: according to https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI the live images don't include UEFI support, only the normal debian installer disks. I'm sure there's desire to fix this going forward
19:59<closingin>ive did the trick to install grub-efi-amd64 from a live after that
20:00<Hydroxide>closingin: ah. so you did something like https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall ?
20:01<closingin>not really those steps
20:01<Hydroxide>I think you do already need to be booted through UEFI to activate the UEFI bootloader - annoying circular dependency there, but it's intrinsic to how UEFI works. some firmwares (informally "BIOSes") have a way to directly choose an .efi file to boot, but otherwise it's a matter of booting from an EFI-enabled disc
20:01<closingin>okay
20:01<closingin>that explains a lot
20:02<Hydroxide>if your Debian install is currently 100% unused and has no important data, it's probably simplest to just install from the standard debian 8 netinstall image, deleting the old Debian partition. however if you want to save it you may want to try following that last wiki page
20:02<Hydroxide>including the part about using rEFInd or some other UEFI-enabled boot image
20:03<closingin>nothing installed so yeah, will do that
20:03<Hydroxide>great, good luck
20:03<closingin>but i havent a nice bandwidth thats why
20:03<Hydroxide>ah sure... you can also download disk 1 if you want
20:04<closingin>thanks a lot for your time
20:04<Hydroxide>of the DVD set
20:04<Hydroxide>good luck!
20:04<closingin>ill start à netinstall before going toi work huhu
20:05<Hydroxide>:-)
20:05<Hydroxide>I know people are working on improving the UEFI experience for debian 9. there is even some discussion about supporting secure boot. nothing to promise this early though.
20:06<closingin>see you, have a good night
20:06<Hydroxide>likewise
20:06<closingin>i hope so !
20:06<closingin>but i kinda dont like secure boot
20:07<Hydroxide>it's not a bad thing in theory - the important thing for freedom is for users to retain control of what signatures will be accepted, but preventing malware from getting to that level does improve security
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20:07<Hydroxide>if users don't retain freedom to customize that level, then yes, it's a problem.
20:08-!-tiagorocha [~tiagoroch@186.232.203.2] has joined #debian
20:08<Hydroxide>anyway, helping new users get started more easily is a good thing too
20:08<closingin>^
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20:44<ihaxop>Hey
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21:16<appas>hey-o
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21:16<appas>ooopsy-daisy. too late.
21:16<appas>i forgot i had parts supressed for this chan
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21:21<girthquake>wrong chat??
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22:09<hellslinger>hey guys, does anyone here know how to setup a router? I've got a system with Jessie on it and my external network card is getting its gateway IP from the dhcp server on the same system, and I want it to get that address from an external DHCP
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23:21<hellyj>jhutchins: greetings. lspci tells me Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) and VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216M [GeForce GT 330M] (rev a2). Not sure what to do next.
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23:25<hellyj>jhutchins: Also, Kernel driver in use: i915 (first) and Kernel driver in use: nouveau (second)
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23:50<k-man>so i thought adding things to .profile would have them run when i start a new gnome termnial shell but it seems not the case
23:50<k-man>gnome termnial runs .bashrc when i launch it
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